Nicolas Hulscher, MPH - mRNA, Vaccines, and The COVID Response

0:04 Okay, Well, firstly, thank you for your time. I know it's been you know, a little bit of struggle trying to get you here just because you were extremely busy. Honestly, every time you turn around, your guests on someone else's show or on the news, which is great showing that Pep, we're tapping into your expertise regarding mRNA COVID, the effects thereof, et cetera. I wanted to go and read a little bit from your bio if you're okay, that I pulled from the McCullough Foundation, since you are the administrator of the McCullough Foundation, And for those who don't know, that is yes, Peter McCullum, doctor Peter McCollum, which is really cool that you are working with him and you're bringing your expertise with you. So, Nicholas, for those who don't know, I'm just gonna read a little bit. Nicholas Houlscher is an epidemiologist administrator at McCullough Foundation. Born and raised in Michigan, So earned a Bachelor of Science and pre health Professional Studies from the Oakland University Honors College in twenty twenty, graduating with institutional and departmental Honors. You went on to receive a Master of Public Health, which, by the way, you know, halfs off to you and you specialize in epidemiology from the University of Michigan State of Public Health in twenty twenty four, and that's that's when you got your MPH.

1:08 That correct, Yes, that's correct. And then what was really interesting to me is, you know, you don't have a long career, but man, did you do a lot since twenty twenty three. It says here he did sixteen peer reviewed scientific studies, which includes systematic reviews, original emphasis, investigations, and case reports, which you know significantly advanced the understanding of COVID nineteen, vaccine injuries, syndromes, and everything else that goes along with that. So I just needed to say that so people know who you are, or at least get a little bit of a background. So that's why I'm very happy that you agreed to be on the show, because it's like I'm talking to someone who actually has knowledge, which is great. So therefore I want to start here because one of my friends who has another podcast, he's more geopolitics and stuff like that.

1:53 He used to be an analyst for the military, but he has his concern was in doing this with you, is he wanted an unbiased assessment explanation of m RNA. Too often it has been very politically biased, and especially from those in the medical you know, the medical profession. So that's what I'm hoping we get here, you know, my political innings in yours regardless, I hope that we can get an unbiased explanation of what actually is mRNA. And I would like to start there because I think there's a lot of confusion because we only found out about it during the pandemic, and that's when everybody we carry him aware of what mRNA maybe, but we still don't really know. There's a lot of assumptions. Can you start with explaining that so we actually know what the heck it is and what we're actually referring to.

2:39 Yes, yeah, So when we think of vagacines, right, that's like everything that's been injected into our children, you know, for the best many many decades, about one hundred years, over one hundred years. Vavaccines. Uh, you know, when you injected killed the antigen or killed virus or whatever, not mRNA. We're not talking about that. When you inject those killed virons or whatever combined with an edge of it, right, which is usually aluminium. Sometimes they preserve these with thimerosol, which is a form of mercury, or they used to. That's normal vaccines, right, that's it. It's just basically killed virus material, right, And so what happens with mRNA is completely different. mRNA is not a vaccine, right. They might claim it's a vaccine. It might be called a vaccine in the news, it might be called a vaccine by the CDC, but it does not work like a traditional vaccine.

3:47 It is a gene transfer technology. It actually meets the definition of a gene therapy. Why do I say that, Well, because, so how does it work? So let's start with how it works. Right. So you have lipid nanoparticles, which are little bubbles of basically fat, right, that's what you could call it. So you have these lipid nanoparticles, think of them like bubbles, and inside of them is billions of m RNA modified mRNA messenger ribo nucleic acid. This these bubbles, once it's injected, travel to every single organ organ system in the body, including the heart, including the brain, including the bone, marrow, and basically every organ system you can think of that's now been confirmed. Man, sorry about this.

4:44 My cat is literally, uh that's okay, throwing my camera around. Hey, we're going to leave it in because you're human and we're we're our schedules have been tight. So the fact that you're able to sit down with me, I'm you know, I get it, but uh, please just keep going about RNA because you're saying that how it goes into the body and starts spreading to is it other organs and whatnot? Yes? Yes, so yeah we'll continue from there. Yes, yes, say the cat comes in, it's like, we're it's like very serious here, you know, I have these catastrophic harms and then we life. Yeah, that's what happens, all right. So yeah, So we talked about vaccines, right, this killed virus and an adjuvant to a voke immune response. Those are vaccines. Now we're on gene therapies. This mRNA technology, right, So we talked about the bubbles. The bubbles lipping nanoparticles go into every organ system and then once they easily get uptaken into cells because the cells like this this material on the outer coating of the lipping nanoparticles. So they kind of trick the cells, the cells uptake them, and then it releases modified mRNA, which in which then the mRNA goes into what's going called ribosomes, these small organelles in your cells. It goes into these ribosomes in all your organ systems and instructs those cells to produce a toxic, highly toxic, highly pathogenic, non human protein, the

6:15 spike protein. So then you have neurons, you have cardiomyocytes in your heart producing expressing on the cell's surface non human toxic protein. So what happens then, Well, then you have your own bodies going to come and attack those cells. Right. It doesn't want these foreign invaders, and that that's why we see things like myochiditis. That's why we see endofilial damage, clotting, that's why we see all many of these issues. So I'm sorry to interrupt you, but is that literally what goes on then, is the body's reaction to zamorna is just trying to reject them as a foreign body, like it doesn't want it.

6:56 Is that kind of what It's Well, that's only one of the one of the ways damage, right, So yeah, we have the own body attacking the cells producing it. But then you have this literally toxic protein that will start to circulate in your body, circulate in the bloodstream, and deposit in vital organ systems. And this protein itself is highly damaging to tissues and the body doesn't like it. It's ill literal, it's a toxic. And so you have this circulating and then you have DNA plasmids that are in these lipid HANNO particles from the manufacturing process that were not cleared out properly, and so you have spikeing coding DNA. You have SEV forty promoter enhancer which they use as the factory to make this mRNA, and all this genetic material gets deposited. We believe now we have many points of evidence. We have many studies now and many laboratory tests that indicate likely genomic integration of some of this material. So, yeah, these are not vaccines. These are dangerous gene transfer technologies and they're not They did not prevent COVID nineteen, right, So.

8:15 I'll ask one more question in defining this then, So you said earlier it was more intended to be a like a gene therapy or whatnot, or some kind of you know, use for for I guess changing the genetic is that correct? It does? Does it affect a genetic code of someone or anybody? I guess My question is what was the actual intention of it? If it was intended for genetic therapy, what kind of therapy is that? And exactly what was the intention of his invention in the first place? Right? Right? So they claim that instructing your body to produce these proteins, it makes anybodies that will protect you from the virus. So that was their purpose. That's why they call it a vaccine because they say that antibody's that you produce will you know, help prevent you from being infected, like they claim the twenty twenty one they said you won't get infected. Now we have eight studies that show an increased risk of infection. Eight studies like these. These don't protect you. They actually serve as infection promoters. So yeah, so it's really a disaster, but it does not serve its purpose of protecting people from anything, unfortunately. And so like they claim, now they've been making this mRNA technology for decades. Barda and twenty twelve launched the adept P three program where they wanted to make messenger RNA therapeutics or what they call countermeasures against respiratory viruses or pandemics.

9:49 And so they've been wanting to deploy this for a long period of time and then you know, this situation in twenty twenty gave them that chance easy. So it seems like they used the COVID pandemic as an excuse to actually test it on the general public. Am I correct saying. That, yes, that's correct. This was tested in animals before it killed many of them. So I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you this, Nicholas, and I'm going to be respectful. So please, if you think I'm interrupt you just tell me to shut it because I've I've watched one of the other interviews you're on. It's like you almost couldn't get a word in and I felt bad for you in that situation. I won't say which one that was, but I want to start going to some of these questions because you defined it for us. Okay, so now we have a better understanding of that, But there's there's something else is still still a little fuzzy because before and this is something that I read, So again, we only can believe what what has been told to us to be the truth. Right, That's why we rely on people like you. So it's been said that before COVID that m RNA was like uh, seen as a way to cure diseases actually and could also you know, could be used as a way to to cure maybe even all diseases. And and so the question being is does that still have is that still something that could be done with mRNA under the right circumstances, and could it then also possibly use for curing cancer?

11:13 I mean, so I guess was it used in the wrong context, you know, when it came to COVID, or is there still something with mRNA that could be used for positive and curing diseases and maybe even cancer? Is that a truth or is that just a rumor or a propaganda or why that was spread just to make us accept it? Right? Well, I would see from the billions of doses that were now injected a messenger RNA technology and the catastrophe that has occurred, I would not trust this technology to work optimally without major side effects for any disease unfortunately, right we would think, okay, well cancer, Right, they're going to be investigating it for cancer. They're going to be investigating it for some genetic defects, you know, be investcuing it for muscular dystrophee. But the problem is is that the technology is so it's it's just it's not ready for human use. It goes to every organ system, there's no targeting mechanism and produces an unlimited, undefined amount of antigen that it tells your body to make, and there's no off switch, and so you basically just inject these instructions for your entire body to start making foreign proteins. Now, for cancer, they might instruct it to make non foreign proteins, which maybe would have a less side of a profile.

12:44 But this technology has proven its failure for all infectious diseases. Now, yeah, as they move on to cancer and these other things, I don't have high hopes for it. And it's been far too catastrophic in the harms we have detected now. It has dysregulated the gene expression thousands of gene expressions. Of recent study we just put out did find that this will probably be the case with even cancer m RNA vaccines. This will be the case when now they're pushing AI generated cancer mRNA shots. It appears to just be another fraud. You know, they like to push technology even if it fails. They're making they make large loads of money from it. And you know, I don't know, maybe I'll be wrong, you know, maybe all of a sudden, you know, they'll develop a cancer cure m RNA injection.

13:43 But on that one, right, yeah, you know that appears to be a century away. Yeah, well, so I have what you said earlier leads me into this. So uh, with with mRNA vaccines being pushed, there has been evidence that the emin M or any vaccine in relation to being used for COVID nineteen, there is now evidence that it did lead to turbo cancers? Is that something that is a real finding? Is that true? Yes, it's very real. Unlike what the media that's funded by pharmaceutical giants likes to suggest, they suggest, they claim, they don't suggest. They actually declare that turbo cancers are a myth and they don't exist, right, So that's what they say, But there's actually one hundred studies. A literature review revealed this. One hundred studies show there's about seventeen distinct mechanisms that these injections may cause or accelerate cancers.

14:49 And then a new study just came out peer reviewed. First of all, there's palm doctor Merrick, and it defines COVID nineteen mRNA injection induced turbo cancer. And so this is what this is is. Literally, it's a cancer that kind of accelerates uncharacteristically. It wasn't seen before the pandemic. And then you have these cancers drastically spread at a very high pace that is just not normal. And these individuals unfortunately succumb to this cancer at a much faster pace than a classical cancer that may have been caused, you know, by an environmental factor, you know, long term exposure to something. These injections usually you know, many of these people will have a cancer, right, cancer in their body.

15:45 It's kind of been checked by their immune system, and these injections go in disregulate immune function, cause immune collapse, and then you have this this this proliferation of their existing cancer into a full blown turbo cancer. And so this is all biologically plausible. It's seen in the population level data. We see somebody named ethical Skeptic. He does very great analytical work with the CDC data. There's been over one hundred thousand excess cancer deaths. And you can contribute that to this mRNA vaccine.

16:26 Yes, this mRNA and spike specifically, actually the spike prototein Yeah, spike protein that induces appears to be carcinogenic. It suppresses tumor suppressor genes, so your body can't suppress them as well, and it literally impairs immune function. It appears to induce vaccine acquired immune deficiency or VADES. That's now evidenced by hundreds of studies. And so, yeah, it's not good. It's not good at all. And so what do you say those who were forced to take this particular vaccine in order to keep their jobs, and how how much more damage were they doing their bodies?

17:08 You know, in taking all these boosters, like six, seven, eight nine boosters. You know, it isn't that evidence in and of itself enough that this vaccine didn't even work. It's clear evidence it was not working. Right at first, people claimed the first that regulatory agencies claimed you only needed you know, one dose, I will just take one dough are these two first doses the primary series? And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, well, now you're gonna need a booster. Oh, now you're gonna need another booster. No, another one, another one, and it just kept coming. And yeah, some people fell for this. They were tricked or coerced by mandates or false public health advice that was based on basically completely flawed data, basically made up lies literally lies actually because they didn't know that any of the true safety profile you need about five to fifteen years for genetic products. So to those individuals that that took many boosters, the best course of action will be to take don't take any more boosters.

18:24 The more boosters you take, shown in a study by Shresla and colleagues, means you have a higher risk of infection per dose. Right, so if you get four doses, you had like a three hundred percent increased risk of infection. You know, one dose was was not nearly as hide. So yeah, you want to refrain from booster doses for sure. So there were people, there were those who took these m RNA vaccines who who feel that they well, they felt worse, that they didn't actually feel better, and that somehow it may have affected their insystem because you know, all of a suddeny're getting sick. Much easier to getting you know, like common colds and whatnot that are much harder for them to get over. And you know, is is that a side effect? Is that something that can be confirmed to be a side effect of the mRNA?

19:17 And the other part to this question is how can someone reverse the damage of the mRNA in the vaccine? Like how can their body get rid of these mRNAs? Yeah, so let's go post vaccination syndrome or long vaccine syndrome. It's similar to long COVID, but it's induced by the vaccine, and so it appears to be much worse and longer lasting than long COVID. But yeah, so it appears that many of the symptoms from that stem from the spike protein, this toxic protein circulating in the body, causing micro clotting and so your blood not circulating properly and many other different issues. And so if you have this high burden of this toxic spike protein, you're gonna want to clear that out or at least help the body clear it out, because our body does not have any innate clearing mechanisms to get it out. And so at the McCullough Foundation, we identified three compounds. We do have a peer reviewed study published on this three compounds nantokinase, bromolane, and curcumin, and these have shown in the test tube experimentally and in case reports to clear out the spike induced clots and even degrade the spike protein directly. And so that's

20:49 what we have so far. That's what doctor mccalluugh recommends to his patients who do have high levels of spike an your bodies. Which is the way of measuring it now, so that just let's go to that now to know what your spike protein burden is is right now, we do use antibody testing as a proxy, and so usually you know, if you're over a thousand, then there are some risks and you know you're likely either exposed to COVID or you know, you got the vaccine, and usually those with the vaccine. Another study came out, and there's a lot of studies coming out. Another study that came out that showed vaccinated individuals have seven times higher spike antibodies compared to those who just got the infection, so it installs much more spike and so yeah, clearing these out is critical that mccullo protocol based spike detaxification does appear to be a promising method. We do need to undergo long term clinical trials double blind, facebo controlled to really assess its efficacy, but we don't we don't right now.

22:04 Eighty percent of actually no not eighty percent, eighty percent got the m RNA shots. Ninety nine percent of the population has been exposed to these synthetic SARS Kobe two spike protein, either from the infection or from the injections. So the entire population was poisoned. And so we need to find answers as soon as possible, and we cannot wait years, you know, for these clinical trials, so you know, we do have to scramble for these solutions. And one other thing for those who you know, feel terrible after their their MRRNA shot, they don't feel better. There's one key thing that needs to happen is you have to raise your vitamin D levels to adequate levels. Most are low.

22:53 There's two studies now that you when you raise those vitamin D levels, it actually reduced or improves your symptoms if you have post vaccination syndrome, and that was one study and the other one found it decreases severity of myocarditis. So what you really want to do is get sunlight right to raise those levels because you get all the other benefits of sunlight, thousands of them. Improves you know, cellular function, improves, mitochondrial function. So you want to get sunlight as your form of vitamin D if you can. But that is absolutely critical, right if you're not doing anything, you want to pick one thing that is something that is highly recommended.

23:38 Let's let's talk about the other concerns of m RNA and specifically how it affects hers food supply. You know, and there's a lot of questions ask to whether or not mRNA is transferable. So you know, it's been used in various vaccines, you know, specifically in our meat supply. So is that m RNA transferable? Like will it transfer to humans who are consuming this meat? Is that something that has been studied? Is that something that can happen and is it something that we should be cautious of or look out for. This is completely unknown at this point because it's never been tested. But you would think they would test it right before they do such foolish things like this, But they don't test it, so we don't know. But you know, I think it would be hard for the lipana particles and mRNA constructs to survive the cooking process. But again we don't know now since if these animals were injected with mRNA, they will be producing these toxic antigens, and so you would be consuming these toxic antigens. And you know, there is still a possibility though that yes, as mRNA could reach your circulation. We just have no idea. This has to be immediately tested. Now, what's most concerning about the injection of animals is the self amplifying RNA particle injections by merk. They are already rolled this out. It's

25:09 being given by vets all across the country to dogs and cats for various viruses, the most prominent one including rabies. Right they recommend rabies vaccinations to basically all animals. And so now they have a self amplifying RNA one and this one could most definitely shed onto human owners as it self replicates in your cat or dog and they come and lick you or you know you're exposed to they're bodily fluids. This can probably you know, reach your circulation and then the self amplifying RNA will end up in your body and maybe even up taken into your cells and you will you will then also be producing rabies antigens, and so this, this is this is an absolute catastrope fee that has to be stopped.

26:03 Okay, so let's let's touch on the viral shedding. How exactly can the mRNA vaccine. For example, let's say like a kid got the mRNA vaccine and they're around other people, So so how can that be transferred to other people through viral shedding? Like, how does that happen? Yes, yes, it's a study by Sue Peters and colleagues that found women in close unvaccinated women in close proximity to vaccinated individuals outside of the household did experience an increase in menstrual cycle abnormalities, heavier bleeding period delays, et cetera.

26:48 They experienced these increase risks when they reported they were within six feet of these vaccinated individuals outside of the household. So that that's all we have really for shedding studies. They haven't really bothered to conduct anything else. But we do know that the mRNA technology does disrupt menstrual cycles. And so when we see unvaccinated women experiencing these who are in proximity to the vaccinated. That does indicate shedding is indeed real, and it appears to be the case biologically. It makes sense because this so likely what shedding is actually this spike protein and what's called exisomes. Right, the body appears to encapsulate the spike protein in these hexisomes and these can likely be exhaled in breath, you know, in saliva during sexual intercourse. This may be able to transmit. Now, the mRNA has been found in breast milk and so you know, for babies, for moms that are breastfeeding, this mRNA may be able to transfer for two of the baby via breast milk, and so there's many different routes of transmission, it appears. But again, no real study has been conducted on this. They just continue to ignore it.

28:13 Okay, So regarding women, there's been there's been reports. I'm not sure if these are verified or not. But how does m r and error. Can mRNA affect a woman's ability to become pregnant? How does it affect their decision making and whether or not they should consider an mr an a vaccine or just not get an mr an a vaccine if they're planning to have a child. Yeah, if you want a child, do not, do not, do not take in mRNA injection. It is very bad. We now have two new studies, recent studies that have come out. The first one was in rats. But what happened was they injected the rats with mRNA shots and it literally wiped out sixty percent of their premrdio follicles.

29:07 So this is the egg supply woman, that's non renewable. It's that base layer they're born with. They don't get any more premrdio follicles. The mRNA shots wipe out sixty percent of those. Right, So, yes, this was in rants. Okay, but it doesn't matter. This is a living animal and these injections are clearly extraordinarily toxic to the reproductive system. So well, you might be thinking, well, as are human data. Well, yeah, there is another recent study came out is peer reviewed by managing colleagues. They found among one point three million one point three million women, they found that there was a thirty three percent reduction and successful conception rate, so thirty three percent reduction and successful pregnancies in vaccinated women compared to the unvaccinated population. So we are seeing this in humans as well. So yeah, and then we have so many other studies that you are risks during pregnancy.

30:11 Study by Thorpe ed l found, you know, so many different safety signals looking at the various system for pregnancy, including miscarriage, you know, malformations, you know, all sorts of issues during pregnancy as well. And we do also know another study came out of that found the mRNA does transfer through the placenta of pregnant women, does transfer into the baby. And so if you are pregnant you receive these, the baby will uptake peiser maderna modified RNA, and it will be producing these toxic proteins unfortunately, And so yeah, these are not safe for reproductive health whatsoever.

31:03 Thank you for answering those questions that my friends and colleagues and uh if my wife had regarding mRNA and how it may transfer or affect affect humans or affect all of us. But now now let's get to the questions that I that I am personally really really interested in terms of the COVID response. So, you know, with everything being said about mRNA and how it was not tested, how it's it has not been proven, can you shed any light on the organizations that were actually behind and pushing this mRNA vaccine during the pandemic, even though that it wasn't tested on humans, and they and they more than likely knew that it was not going to be effective.

31:51 Can you tell us who was behind pushing this vaccine, the mRNA vaccine during the pandemic, during the COVID pandemic, and do you know for sure which companies were behind this? Yeah, so there was many organizations involved. We have identified what's called the biopharmaceutical complex. It's a conglomerate of regulatory agencies, pharmaceutical companies, governments, and NGOs, these large nonprofit organizations. And it appears that this conglomerate is central to the approval of this right. So the major nonprofits include, you know, the Gates Foundation. You know, we have organizations like the World Economic Form, we have the Rockefeller Foundation, we have many of these foundations. We have the World Health Organization, we have GAVY, the Global Vaccine Alliance, we have we have SEPI, the Center of Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation. We have all these organizations that have been pushing this mr and a platform since this inception, funding their development, funding new mRNA injections, funding their distribution doing all these key critical things, and you think, well, why did they do this? Right, why did they do this? Why did the Gates Foundation, who literally thinks there's too many people on earth and

33:23 wants to reduce population. Why would they care about saving people when they think we need to reduce the population. You know, that makes zero logical sense that they would want to actually, you know, save people. You know, it literally doesn't make any sense. So why would they be very much invested in this technology? Well, you know, it appears and actually a large proportion of countries around the world deploy what's called population control policies or population control operations where they actually you know, employee policies to reduce population growth because they think they have too many people.

34:10 You know, this is real, right for anybody who doesn't believe this, you know, this is what countries do. We have China doing it, and we have many other countries doing it. And so this population control operations appears to have made its way into a global, a global push for with these m R and A injections. Because now that we know what it does to fertility, now that we know what it does to birth rates, we are very very concerned that part of the purpose of this rollout may have been a population control related.

34:52 So with that being said, and you don't have the answers because I don't put it on the spot, but how how do you feel as an epidemiologist that the COVID response was handled at that time? And you know, and with that being said, also like, how how do you feel about Fauci and how he handled that response, because you know, he was largely responsible for the push for the push to get this uh these m RNY vaccines out there into the public, and from what I understand, he even had a patent on his own at the time or maybe he still does. Maybe incorrect me if I'm wrong there, but you know, as an epidemiologist, what is what is your thoughts on Fauci and how he handled things? And you know, I don't know maybe if there is anything that you would have done differently, but what is what is your thoughts on Fauci?

35:52 Fauci. Fauci has done many things that have broken the law. And we'll just say, you know, obviously lied about gain of function research, lied on their oath, He's facing perjury investigations, you know, all that stuff. But we're regarding the COVID pandemic response. You know, he advocated for lockdowns, for the closure of all the schools. He told us the mRNA injections would we're ninety nine percent effective. He told us we wouldn't get COVID with these injections. And so what appears to have happened is as the figurehead for the pandemic response, uh, he flat out lied to the entire population of these injections and while also pushing completely flawed pandemic response policies such as lockdowns and masking mask mandates and all the nonsense. And so he the fact that he's still walking free from any persecution is quite shocking, right, because you have his involvement in with the Wuhan lab and creation of Sara's Kovie two itself, as well as the mRNA injections. I mean this, this, this is very

37:23 bad stuff, right, This, This isn't something that most people could kind of walk around free after doing. And so what's now happened here in America is the Buyer's Law Group has actually filed criminal referral requests in seven different states against Anthony Fauci and many other public health officials for they're accusing them of murder, terrorism, abuse, racketeering, fraud, for for their actions and policies implemented during the pandemic, including these hospital protocols, suppression of early treatment and all these things. And so there's there's just so many things to unpeck with the pandemic response, but many of it.

38:21 I think accountability is now. You know, people are calling for accountability, if specifically Fauci, but I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see. Right, So, how how would you I mean you as an epidemiologist, you and your peers. How It's always easy to look back and say I would have done it this way, But how how should you? How should it have been handled? How do you think we should have handled that? Well? First of all, or should not have been lockdowns? There should not have been any lockdowns. That that caused the men's harm just by itself, right, because you people at home isolated, right, They weren't interacting with their friends, they weren't learning at school. They were just stuck at home on a computer looking at a screen. This was disastrous for the mental health aspect of the population as well as the economic aspect. It decimated small businesses. It was just it was horrible and it didn't prevent anything, right, I mean it didn't. Lockdowns will not stop anything from happening unless you keep something lockdown forever, right, and that doesn't happen. Any pathogen will always find its way in.

39:43 You might be able to delay it with the lockdown, but that's it, right Once, once you lift these restrictions, it's gonna come pouring in. So they're absolutely useless, absolutely useless, you know, unless there is a zombie outbreak. Okay, fine, I get that. There's rumors of that too, though what was that. I said, there's rumors of that too though? Oh yeah, exactly. You know, honestly, they've probably developed pathogens and laboratories that could induce some be like behavior and people. That would not surprise me one bit because there are thousands of these laboratories that are manipulating pathogens and we don't know what's in many of these labs at all.

40:27 So I know, I know, we don't have a ton more time as we go on, but you know what you're saying, really it makes me ask this question here when when when you're talking about the public health community and we're talking about other epidemiologists. Why hasn't there been more people coming together to stand up against this and go after bad actors like Fauci for example. And I'm only using Fauci's name because he's the most recognizable, you know, I'm not trying to just zero in on him. But why why aren't there more p people coming out and speaking out against these bad actors that have these very bad intentions and how to handle the population, and how to handle vaccines too, which I got another question for you on that, But but what do you think of that?

41:15 Why are there not more people come together and really chastising and saying no, that's bad, This is not how they're supposed to be and there does have to be justice administered based on their actions. They should be held accountable. Why are there not more people stepping up? Right? I think they're One of the reasons is people have just been demoralized, right, I mean, we've been hit with so many things down in the past five years. We've called for the removal of these shots, we've called for accountability, we've called for this and for that, and you know it has led to nothing. Right, the n R and H shots are still on the market. Right, these people are still running around free. I mean, Faci's running around free. You have to clearly, clearly lying to Congress.

41:58 I mean you only need one brains. Kindergartener could tell you if they saw his statements here and his statements to Congress here, a kindergartener would tell you, yeah, he broke the law. And they don't face any accountability. So people are just tired. They're like, okay, they're never going to face it, and it's it's a sort of fatigue. It appears that has incurred, and people just don't they don't want to talk about it anymore. You know, they've been demoralized and you know, and you know, to change that, you know, I think what would would turn the tide would be, you know, finally, at least one little drip of accountability. Right if finally, yeah, just something happens, something fau chief, just for perjury, even though he's accused of of you know, many other crimes, at least one thing, And I think that would ignite a spark where people would finally, you know, rise up again and start to call for true accountability. Okay, So so.

43:03 With that i'd lie to I have two questions because you're sparking, sparking some you know, making the hamster run up here. So uh, let's let's talk about let's talk about this and and with the new Trump administration, RFK Junior at the HELM here at Health and Human Services, right, do you think vaccine efficacy and how they're handled and and standards of testing will improve or or has a lot of this just been window dressing or theater, you know, just to get support and likes and whatever the hell it is that they need to to look good to the public. Is do you see a change, uh from from your perspective and and and through your work, have you seen a change with this new administration and how vaccines are handled and the standards.

43:52 You know, most of what's happened so far seems to have been hindered by you know, political games. Right. Yeah, it does appear that most of this is you know, not enough actions being taken, not enough research is being initiated. It appears that you know, they're they're staying in the bounds of what they think they can do politically. And so yeah, you know, at my level, you know, we're still researching the m RNA arms. We're uncovering crazy things that we would never have thought we would have uncovered. And the federal government hasn't done a thing, right, I mean we're sitting here. They've been there for many, many months, this new administration. We have not seen anything. We haven't seen them develop a test to look for genomic integration of spiking people. We haven't seen them develop therapeutics to help them millions of injured. We haven't seen anything tangible.

44:54 We still see mRNA shots being allowed to be given to six month old infants. But you know, with that being said, Nicholas, what do you what do you think about them trying to mandate these COVID m RNA vaccines to children attending school like it's supposed to be now a part of the regiment. I don't know if it passed, because like the new second was so fast. I hear these things. I haven't confirmed it because I've been talking to so many other people with different issues. Is that a thing that has passed? And what's your thoughts on it? Yeah? So there there are I believe there are some states that were trying to pass that, and federally they did have the m r and A shots and the recommended vaccination schedule, but some schools actually did mandate it for attendance. Most of that appears to have gone away, you know, most schools, most places, you won't need an m R and a injection to attend anymore. But regardless, So actually in May, RFK did issue a directive to stop recommending him to healthy you know, little babies and healthy bregnant women. He did so, he did try at least do something, but it appears like he can't really do anything. Right. He did that, but you know, they're still on the childhood schedule. All the CDC did was put a note that says, talk to your healthcare provider.

46:23 And then many of these healthcare providers are under mass psychosis. Still they will still be administering these gene therapies to infants. So, you know, we're in such a bad situation right now. It appears that whoever, honestly, whoever was HHS secretary really couldn't have couldn't really do anything. We know RFK though, based on his you know, decades of what he'd spoken about, we know he knows these are bad and dangerous and deadly. Even even many of the childhood vaccines are dangerous. We know he knows that, but you know, he can only it appears he can only do so much as Ajh's secretary, and within an administration that still does like MRINA technology, he cannot act like a king. It appears as we wanted him to. Right.

47:17 So, but you know, what you're saying is what's what's sad when people feared is still politics before people. You know, it's it's back to our relationships before the public. And that's what we don't want to hear. That's not what we're expecting. And I'm not trying to make this political. But you know, with the change of the guard, with a new administration who ran on, hey, we're going to take care of this. We're going to look into what happened during COVID. We know that there's issues with these vaccines, and we're going to get right on top of it. RFK Junior. That is exactly what he said the whole time, for many years, even before he came over to Trump's side. And it's not it's it's not a partisan because he's still a Democrat. So we can't we can't pin this on Republican for Zimprant. There's something else going on that's stopping them from making them move and changing things. So it's good to hear what you saying, because from your perspective and working on the other side of things, you know, you're doing these studies and you're like, yeah, but based on this, why are we still doing this? Like this doesn't make any sense. You know, you actually have studies that show there is harm, and yet there's nothing being done for the betterment of society outside of maybe implementing the policies and plans that you said earlier, which maybe this is just about population control. I don't know one more question for it. And this has to do with newborns.

48:28 And this is something that I've always wondered. Does a newborn really need the plethora of vaccines that is administered as soon as they're born? Short answer, no, No. A human baby that is just you know, been born, enters this world, does not need merk and a phizer and and does not need pharmaceutical injections in their bloodstream when they're born. They just don't. It's dangerous. Actually, now they've they're the CDC's being sued for pushing an illegal and unconstitutional seventy two dose hyper vaccination schedule.

49:13 Seventy two doses. Yep, it's about seventy two doses from birth to eighteen. And so, yeah, none of this was tested in combination. Nobody knows the safety profile when you give them together. It's it's completely unknown. And so so. Aside from just seventy two, they didn't even do any studies to see how they would interact with each other, these. Vaccines, No, none, what, Yeah, they just assume. Yeah, they've gotten away with it for some time. Nobody's questioned it, and they've just got gotten away and it's been fine. And so now that people are aware that this is the case, they're in a lot of they're going to face a lot of public backs.

49:56 And these pharmaceutical companies due to all these deals, like you can't them accountable and you know what clause? Do you know what why that is? Like what clause there is? And the justification for that, like why can't we hold them accountable? They nineteen put together you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, the nineteen eighty six National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act that once that was implemented, that gave pharma companies liability protection, complete liability protection from vaccine injury from their products. So that's why you see before nineteen eighty six there is only about seven vaccines given to kids, right, you didn't see that many autistic kids, and you didn't see many profound just autism cases where they needed you know, toilet assistance, et cetera. And then after nineteen eighty six, when they got these shields from liability, you see the dose number skyrocket, you know, into space, and they start deploying so many different types of vaccines where every virus they can think of, and they don't face any accountability due to this act. Now, Representative Representative ghosts Are has introduced legislation to try and repeal this and finally allow people to sue vaccine companies when they're injured. And so there are legislative efforts underway, thankfully to reverse this.

51:30 I know that's been happening in Europe. There have been cases they've been going after these vaccine or pharmaceutical companies for harm, and really we really haven't been doing it in the USA quite yet. So yeah, it's a really sad thing. The vaccines in general. You know, like I said, we don't need so many seventy seventy two vaccine schedule you know, from birth through through eighteen is insane. I don't understand. I don't understand that. And they're not even testing how they interact with each other either, Like and that's the one thing, you know, watching the clockier. So you just you just had you just you know, initiated another another very important question, because this is something that's come up in the past, autism. So is there verifiable studies that links vaccines or the amount of vaccines and their interactions to autism? And if so, why are we not hearing about these?

52:26 Yeah, there's, uh, there's over ten studies that do find an association between vaccines and autism. The most recent ones by Mossen and colleagues. It was over you know, forty thousand Medicaid recipients and they found, you know, they found pretty large increases in risk and those that received childhood vaccines compared to the unvaccinated children for many different neurodevelopmental disorders, not just autism, but ticks to as well as ADHD. Right, And so we do have evidence of it, and you know, HHS says there's gonna be a report coming out, you know, in September or October where they're gonna see where they're gonna tell us if they found an association. I don't know, you know what what they're gonna come out with. But here the McCollough Foundation, we are actually doing our own comprehensive study on this link between vaccination and autism and hopefully that'll be completed within the next few months here as well. And so, yeah, there's been many studies documenting and association. I mean you can find all of them on our substick Thefocalpoints dot com. We do report on them.

53:44 And yeah, this cannot be ruled out. It's always it verifiable yet though, as you know, like there's been studies, but has has has been verified that it is an actual link between autism and these vaccines. An actual causal link has yet to be defined. Now in the attacking you know, now it appears that it's definitely you know, it can indeed induce autism and people, but I guess as an epidemiologist, we can't say based on the studies there that there's a causal link yet. But yeah, I mean, you have these parents they go and get you know, they go and get their child MMR and then they bring them home and then they have seizures and then they're never the same sense. You know, we have so many cases of this, and so yeah, when you inject toxins, large numbers of toxins, neurotaxins, aluminum, and you hyperactivate the immused system and you cause seizures, feberal seizures, and brain damage, it's not unexpected that you'll see these neurodevelopmental disorders.

54:51 So, with all this being said, how can the public once again trust vaccines? Because there are good vaccines, They're vaccines that are proven to have work. Or do you, in your opinion, are there any vaccines like are all vaccines kind of bad in their own way? Do they all? Do they all have a side effect? Or are there really like, hey, no, there was good ones and we should use those and have them administered. So if that's the case, then how do we get the public to trust these type of vaccines that have been proven and trust vaccination in general? Right? Well, yeah, some vaccines you know, could have contributed to the reduction in some infectious diseases, but actually many of the reductions and infectious disease over the past one hundred years we're due to improvements and sanitation and care and you know, some of it is contributed to some of these vaccinations. But the thing I want to say is none of the current child vaccines were actually properly safety tested, is the thing? Right, So none of them undergone long term placebo controlled trials. You know, the follow up time is ranges from about two days for a lot of these vaccines in these studies to a few months.

56:13 But yeah, none of them have followed these children long term after administration. And again none of them have been tested in combination, so we actually do not know the full true safety profile of these vaccines. And so you know, or how for how long Nicholas, should these vaccines be tested? Like what's the length of time that they should be doing this study to determine the long term effects of the vaccines when they're about to put out a new one or test? Yeah, they should be following these children in these studies for years, right, they can. Write like three years, five years, Like what do you recommend? The longer the better? Right, they should keep record of these children in these studies and then you know, follow keep them on record for about ten years, that would be very and then they can publish another study in about ten years documenting, documenting what happened to these children, but they don't. They just kind of lose track of them.

57:08 All right, two days, you know, we don't care what happens to them after that. That's what's happened. And so we just don't know what's happening to these children. And for how long has that been going on? Forever? Really since the beginning of time? Yeah? Yeah, I mean they first, the first vaccines were just injecting, like taking some somebody's smallpox lesion and taking material out of that and then injecting that lesion material into somebody else. So that's what they were used to be doing. And yeah, now obviously that's changed. But right, I guess my question is like, for how long has this been going on where they weren't doing long term studies on these vaccinations?

57:53 Yeah, well, for all the vaccines now on the market, none of them, none of them. There's not any how can we give a defined date like since nineteen eighty eight ninety or is there a certain lists of vaccines, like certain vaccines themselves that are kind of fall into that category of not being properly tested. I'm telling you there's a list. I'm not trying to put you on the spot. I'm just wondering if it's if there's something we could reference so that anybody who's watching, like if they did want to do this research, they can go, oh, okay, there's there's this list that I can look at. And you know, these certain vaccines, for example, they haven't been tested long enough.

58:34 We've been out there long enough to really determine whether they're effective or what side effects they have. So that's that's what I'm trying to get out of you. I'm not trying to, you know, put you in a corner here. Yeah, no, No, The list is on the Informed Consent Action Network. They go to their website. They have a list of all the vaccines and it shows you how long did they follow them up for was there a placebo group? And you'll see the list. It's all red red boxes, which means they weren't adequate. And so that's what's happened with all of these now again in the past. You know, it's like I guess in the sixties, seventies, you know, I don't know, honestly, I don't know if those were long term or not. But you know that doesn't matter at this point because the current ones being administered to everybody are not right, and so we just yeah, we just have to.

59:23 Name that website again. Nick was the name of that again. Nicolas informed Consent Action Network. I can if you look at ic A N, it should show up. And they do have a chart on their website that shows you know what's happened. I believe they actually they sued the FDA for some stuff. You know, they're they're a pretty pretty good decent organization. Huh. Interesting, Well, I think we're getting to the end of your time with me, So won't you tell everybody about the foundation where they can find more information about you, the studies, et cetera. Yes, yes, you can follow me on x AT and I see houlture. I will be posting basically every day.

1:00:06 That's where all that you'll find all the breaking stuff, but in detail. If you want to see all these studies in detail and a full breakdown of them, you have to go to our substack vfocalpoints dot com and you will find it all there. You'll see doctor mccollough's posts, author John Leak's posts. That's the place to go as well, and for all one more thing V McCullough Foundation mccaullaugh fn D dot com. You got your cat there again. Yeah, McCall sorry, mccallaugh FND dot org. That's how you can visit the McCullough Foundation. You'll see our operations what we kind of do on a daily basis, and we do need support, right, We do operate on donations and contributions, so you know, if you want to support our research, We've published over twenty scientific studies in the past years exposing the harms of these shots where the government failed to do so, we're doing research on treatment protocols, We're doing all this stuff. So yeah, if you want to, you know, consider supporting our work, please visit the website McCalla F and D dot org.

1:01:17 Awesome. Thank you for your time and the information, and you know, hopefully we can stay in touch. I do want to possibly have you on again down the road as things develop, but again, thanks for timing. You're super busy and I really appreciate everything that you've had said. Thanks for having me, Yes, sir, thank you. Nicholas do