Jan. 8, 2025

56 - Ryan McBeth

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Ryan Mcbeth joins the show!

Ryan is a widely popular YouTuber, military veteran, cyber security expert, and a member of the intelligence community.

Ryan and I light a couple of cigars and, we discuss the attacks on New Years Eve, Trump, Ukraine, China, OSINT, cigars, and even space aliens.

Ryan and I have a very interesting and informed conversation.

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You are listening to a Funds Media Network production. Hello

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Wilderblades listeners, and welcome to episode fifty six. Today, I

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have the pleasure of having Ryan McBeth on the show

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as my guest. Ryan McBeth is a wild popular YouTuber,

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a United States military veteran, and a current member of

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intelligence community. Ryan is very well known for explaining current events,

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exposing conspiracies, and revealing some of the inner workings and

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operations of military exercises. Ryan and I had an amazing conversation.

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He's highly intelligent, very outspoken, and we had a lot

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of fun on this show. You will hear a little

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crinkling and whatnot in the beginning of the show, and

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that's just me on wrapping my cigar. As Ryan and

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I both shared some cigars, had a great time, great conversation,

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and I think that she'll really enjoy this episode. So

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with that being said, let's begin, all right. So, mister

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Ryan macbeth, welcome, Thanks for taking the time man be here.

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Absolutely so, I got. I got. I was basically referred

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to you and said, hey, you need to reach out

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to this guy by Curvin, who I think you know

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that you were just on his show this week, explained,

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and he was basically like, yeah, he's he's a he's

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a real guy. He's a he's an intel guy. He

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knows the stuff and so as that great, and uh

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that's when I reached out to you, and uh, you know,

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I'm glad you responded so that that's very good of

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you to do. So. I know you're really busy guy,

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and you work hard, and I know that you know,

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we don't want to dive too much into crazy details

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like who you exactly serve with and all that, just

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for the protection of others. I get it.

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But I thought we.

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Talked about your background a little bit and maybe even

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bring up what's going on basically in the world now,

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which is a crazy twenty twenty five to be quite honest.

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Let me go ahead and cut this guy. I'm gonna

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go ahead and share a cigar with you.

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Oh fantastic. Yeah, I love these things.

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I have got this guy right. Pretty good stuff. Yeah

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it was a corona, Yes, sir, it's a La Roma

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de Cuba de Cuba.

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I think that's one of the Ashton cigars. Yeah it is.

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Yeah, yep, good stuff. So Ryan, sir, specific start with this.

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Now I'm gonna I'm gonna get into other topic later.

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But how long were you in the military, because it's

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your story's a little different than some other Intel guys

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I talked to. I don't think you went directly into it.

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Is that correct? You kind of fell into it later

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or got gravitated.

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I fell into it, So, I I mean, am I

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an Intel guy? I don't know? The story I often

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talk is, you know, I write the software twenty years infantry,

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and while I was serving, I got a batch's a

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Computer Science management. Later I got a master's in or

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MSc and cybersecurity. And so I was like, when I

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got out, I started working for Eccentric, specifically Center Federal Services,

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doing well, doing C four I SR Command Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence,

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fails for connaisance. We fine bag guys, right, and uh

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so a lot of stuff is sitment cyber intelligence. You know,

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Daddy al Batty calls his mom every Friday at three o'clock,

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and all right, let's see Daddy al Batty is always

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in this location. Then he goes to his favorite fallawful

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house and all right, so we can hit him here

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on the road when there's no cross traffic and we're

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we're all right, we're one hundred meters away from the

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school over here, so you want to use this kind

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of muneation that's like beyond what I do. But you know,

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you confirm our daddy, Oh Baddie is over here at

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this house, you know, because he talks with his mom

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every whatever where since you know, we know emails are

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coming from this house. So that's how I kind of

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get into it. And it's funny is that I have

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I have people who you know, they go, oh, you're

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on a real and tow guy, because you're not. You

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never went to the school at Fornachuka. I'm like, look, once, uh,

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Michael Jordan was being trash talk by Kobe Bryant. Yeah,

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and Michael Jordan looked down on Kobe Bryant's wearing air

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Jordan's and uh, Michael Jordan says Kobe Bryant, Man, how

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do you got trash talk me when you're wearing my shoes? Right?

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So that's kind of like you got trash talk.

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They're using I software, right, They're literally using something that

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you designed and put together and implemented and questioning you on.

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That, and you know, and and there's uh, it is

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kind of funny because I have enough well I don't

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do targeting, weapon earing stuff like that. Like you know,

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I find the people and you give that information to

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your client and then your client does whatever. Well, then

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sometimes you come back and get a pat on the

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back like, hey, we got daddy old baddie. Thanks man,

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got it.

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So that's interesting.

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Yeah, I mean I I enjoyed my time at Excentsure,

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like I have. I have nothing bad to say about it. It

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was it was literally like being in the military again

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because you uh, In fact, we even have an alumni group,

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like people who are at the Center and then leftic Center.

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We have an alumni group that you know, we all

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stay in touch with each other and stuff, and a

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lot of it's like it's like being in the army

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again in a lot of ways because like there was

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no Extentia was like the first company I worked at

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where there was no like I'm in it for me.

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It was like, we're in it for the client, okay,

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And if the client needed a pint of blood, one

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of us would have opened up a vein, you know,

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to give that client a pint of blood. Because it

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was all about the client and at the end of

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the day. It was all about the soldier, Like what

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is the end user, you know, out what is the

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end user's outcome going to be? And so we would

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work really hard to get things right. That's actually another

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reason why I get pissed off when people talk about

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the military industrial complex, like we're a bunch of people

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just taking money from the government and lighting our cigars

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one hundred dollars bills. Like no, dude, we like freaking

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work to make sure this, like to make sure the

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soldier has what they need to be an effective soldier.

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Like there's a lot of people who work for contracting

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companies who they put their whole career focus toward, like

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how can I make how can I protect America? How

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can I make the lives of our soldier desier? You know,

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And a lot of people don't understand that, but I mean,

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I think it's it's necessary for some people because they

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have to believe in conspiracy.

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Well yeah, you know, of course, and we'll dive into

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that later. But so something primarily you're focused on providing

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the correct tools for the job that was reliable and

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consistently able to be used out in the field.

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Yeah, yeah, to find the bag and then there's I mean,

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I am wearing this sweatshirt that says until because that's like,

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that's like people they are gonna meet with this source

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that's human intelligence, and that's useful. But well, you know,

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one of the things that I've often said human intelligence

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like we need to know, like we need to know, yeah,

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ideal like why does intelligence exists? It exists? Because mean

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to know who is doing what and why? Right now?

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Who is doing what? It's actually usually fairly easy to

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come up with, right, But the freaking why that's the

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gold mine.

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Like, all right, that's always that's always the question why.

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Why are they doing the thing? And you know, in

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some cases human intelligence can tell you the why. And

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sometimes people lie. That's the other big thing. But you

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know it doesn't lie your browser.

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History patterns of behavior, right.

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Oh, I get I get to ask you, hey, George,

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do you watch pornography?

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Right? And I can say yes, I could say no.

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Or you can say no. And the next thing I

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can say is can I look at your browser history?

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Right? And then you're like, and you know.

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Today our browsers and this this thing that we keep

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in our pocket, this magic window, we tell our magic

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light box. Things that we wouldn't even tell our spouse, true, right,

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we ask it questions. We wouldn't even ask our spouse.

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That's the real gold mine, right, that's where the real

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information is. If I want to know who is doing

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what and why, I even look at their computer and

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I have a pretty good idea of what they're doing,

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especially if they think it's secure.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah, So cyber intelligence is uh. I think it is

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a age your component and figuring out what the bad

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guys are doing.

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Yeah. And most people don't know how to hide their

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tracks either.

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No, and you know, in all honesty, hiding tracks is

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pretty difficult. Just in general, there is just so much

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digital exhaust that that we don't know about. I mean,

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did you do you remember hearing about the fitness trackers

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that expose some of our bases. Yeah, yeah, it was

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a couple of years back. It was like fit Bit

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and Garment.

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I remember the garment.

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You know, if you're if your workout, if your Strava

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is public, you know, people can see every day where

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you're working out, what you're doing, and where are guys

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gonna run. They're gonna run on the perimeter of the base, right,

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because that's the longest distance. So all right, now we

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have a matt. Now we know there's here's the perimeter

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of the base, right, and you know things like that,

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Like it is very difficult to turn that stuff. I

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don't wanna say turn that stuff off, but you don't

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even it's so ingreat in our usual life. I mean,

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I think one of the biggest issues we have in

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the military right now is signal. Well, it's like the

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freaking signal app.

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It's like these phones, like you said, very few people

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ever do not have it on them. You know, it's

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either on their nightstand right next to their bed, or

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first thing they get up they have to check their

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social media whatever, it's always in their pocket. It's tracking you.

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You're literally leaving breadcrumbs of what you're doing and where

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you're at at all times. And most people don't realize that, oh.

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Absolutely, And you have that issue. And the other issue

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you have is you look at something like signal. The

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army runs on signal. There's guys, especially if you're an officer,

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you might have five or six signal chats open. Right,

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there's one signal chat to the platoon, one signal chat

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for the company, one signal chat with the Tian command

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or one signal chat with the S one shop. So

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you have all these signal messages going and things fall

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through the cracks, right like, hey, we have and now

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it's really easy to like change things, say hey, formation

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time is zero fifteen instead of zero five point thirty,

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because now you can just send it out. It used

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to be like, hey, you gotta go get the runner,

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you gotta go to every All right, well, let's not

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change the formation time. I can change the formation time

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with a couple of presses a button. And I can't

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even imagine what that's like now for soldiers staff to

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be chained to this device that you're expected to answer

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within seconds. When you get that you can't you can't.

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Turn an excuse, You have no way to shut it down.

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Yeah yeah, yeah. And I've actually been of the opinion

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of the one of the things the Army needs to

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do on the military in general maybe is uh, I

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don't want to say band cell phones, but maybe create

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a cell phone that works on a wireless mess network

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that's us for soldiers. Okay, and you know, maybe it

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doesn't have video capability, but now you have a messaging

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system that maybe it does connect through GSM or through

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whatever provider. Maybe it does connect through satellite or through

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a mesh network, maybe just a monochrome screen, right like

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a kindle, So it lasts a week without having to

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charge it. Because now soldiers go to the box, they'll

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go to NTC National Training Center at Fort Huam, California,

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and they're told, don't bring your cell phone because that's

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a that's a way for the adversary, for the OP

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four to detect you. So then they don't. Either one

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or two things happens. Either if they don't bring their

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cell phone, and now they don't know how to operate,

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right because it used to be like, let me contact

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the S one. Pump up up up up up up right,

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Or they do bring their cell phone, which is against

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the rules, and they get detected by the enemy's systems,

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by the OP four systems and they get blown up,

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or and then they get in trouble, right because they

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have their cell phone, or they don't bring their cell phone,

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and some officers says, hey, how committed to bring your

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cell phone? Yeah right, we're trying to get a hold

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of you. Well, the rules, I don't bring all your

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officer's supposed to have your phone on you. You got

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to you gotta work within the rules without you Like,

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so what do you do? Well, maybe have a separate

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cell phone.

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M Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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Yeah, that's a officer. Life is hard.

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And question being though, since you kind of mentioned yeah,

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basically communication after fingertips, do you think having too much

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of it in the service has been kind of, uh,

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kind of prohibits a few things, or has been kind

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of a detriment to communication in general, being that it's

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always accessible and you can never turn it off. Do

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you think people just automatically have to feel they have

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to communicate or just constantly be on their phone and

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trying to message. Do you think that might be a problem.

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It could be. I mean I think that that you

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certainly have. You certainly have an environment where people today,

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soldiers today, they've grown up with these things. They've grown

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up with two devices, so they're probably more used to

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having them around, so it's probably less of an issue.

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But at the same time, like, are they able to

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do something? Are they able to put that phone away

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and do their job?

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Right? That's kind of another thing too, right, that might

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be a general thing. Yeah, distractions, right, and.

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I've had people tell me that, like, there are soldiers

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who can't read. And it's not they can't read as

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in like you know, what, what does this word mean?

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It's more like they can't read as in like they

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they can't they can't take something and comprehend it if

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it's in long gotcha. So you have people who can

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read a street sign, but they have a lot of

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trouble actually taking a look at like a long manual

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to find the issue. Like that's just not something people do.

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No, And they probably don't have the patients for it.

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They're so used to instant short messages. You got you know,

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you basically got the phone version of shorthand and emojis.

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So yeah, yeah, I can totally see that. I really do. Well,

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that's interesting. So so militarily wise or military wise, I mean,

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do you think that we've improved over the years or

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have we kind of fallen back? And if you don't

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want to asker that screat, I just wonder from your perspective.

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You know, I have family members, I've served my nephews

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in the Marina.

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I thinks that the average I think that soldiers today

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are just as capable and willing and competent as soldiers

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from twenty years ago. And at some point it is

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the other the neat thing about like everything being a

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volunteer service. At some point everybody thought that joining the

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army would be a good idea. You know, I think

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soldiers are just as good as they were. Things are

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just different, you know, just the environment they grew up

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in is different. Things are just different. And so I

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wouldn't necessarily say they're better or worse, but I would

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certainly say that that soldiers today they learned differently. They

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grew up in a different environment. And you know, we

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need to focus on the fact that as our society changes,

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what we expect from our soldiers needs to remain the same,

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but we need to go about it in a different ways.

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I mean, I'm from the generation where you didn't get tattoos,

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right Like, if you got a tattoo, like you were

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kind of a badass, right Like, people didn't tend to

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get tattoos. Soldiers would tend to get tattoos, but tattoos

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weren't very acceptable in regular society. And then what happens

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then tattoos start to become acceptable in society. Right you

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see chefs with tattoos. So the military used to have

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a policy that would say like, hey, you can't have

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any tattoos that could show below a certain part of

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the sleeve of the dress uniform, right, or you couldn't

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have anything on your neck. And now some of that,

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some of those policies have changed. And that doesn't mean

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we're any weaker. It just means that, look, society moved

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to a different view on tattoos. We need to reflect

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what society feels about tattoos.

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Right, Well, society evolves, so it's just it's just a

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change in times, right.

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Yeah, And if we don't evolve along with it, that

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could be a problem virtue, Right, We're not going to

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be able to find the recruits. So one of the

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things I've talked about before, and I don't do drugs,

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but I can tell you that I think we need

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to figure out a way to allow our soldiers, allow

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our servicemen to consume marijuana. If you want to take

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a gum meat up your sleep, or you want to

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smoke a plant because it makes you feel good, you know,

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as long as you're fit for duty the next day

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or you know, we'll figure it out, right, Like, all right,

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you can't do it within twelve hours of plate operations

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or whatever. But I think that things like marijuana use beards.

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That's another thing. I think one third of all African

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American men suffer from razor bumps and grown hairs. All right,

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Why are we making them go get a shaving profile

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every couple of months? Why? Because we have this idea

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of what a soldier should look like. And you look

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at European armies, you look at Ukraine. Those guys have beards.

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They seem to be able to fight, and you know that.

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You get the area. Well, what about make our weapons?

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All right, well then you have to shave. Sorry, but

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until that mottlement, let them have a freaking beard. Yeah,

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you know, like there is We could probably solve recruiting

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very quickly with just allowing beards and allowing soldiers to

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partake in recreational marijuanas. If we just we can do

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that tomorrow. We can do beards tomorrow. Marijuana might take longer,

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but I.

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Think that'll take longer. But I think you have a

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point there. It's just figuring out how that would be

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regulated and how they'd be able to use it. But

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it does calm your nerves. It helps you sleep, There's

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there's many benefits to it. And I agree with you

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in whatich you're saying that, you know, we do have

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to keep up with the times. Look, things have changed.

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If if we're gonna stickers about little things such as beards,

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and that's what's going to hold people back from serving,

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you know, in the in the armed forces, that's just ridiculous.

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It doesn't make them less capable of a human being

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or a service person whatsoever. So I definitely agree with

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you on that. It's anos like we're fo sing on

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the wrong things, you know, and by doing so, we're

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just making ourselves weaker because we're not allowing those who

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want to participate and contribute what they have to offer

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because they don't meet this you know criteria you got

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to be clean shaven for example, right, just silly, It

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doesn't make any sense.

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And you look at Sikhs, you know, who have to

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go and get a special dispensation right in order to

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have in order to have a beard.

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Well, it's their freaking culture, culture, part of their religion.

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It's you know, hence also why they wear you know,

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their their turban or head dress. I'm familiar because i've

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I've hung out with a lot of both people in

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India and who are Indian South Indians, North Indians, and

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of course, you know Seeks in general, so I gotta

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I definitely have a good grasp with that culture. Spent

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many years providing services to them, you know, so, and

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the Seeks are extremely patriotic here in America. So yeah,

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they I think they deserve a little respectespecially when they

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serving in the military. You know, definitely, they definitely should

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ease up a bit, you know, in terms of that.

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So agreed, Let's let's move past military though, like, because

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here's the thing. Okay, you're a challenging guy. You know

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how to find information, You're good, you have a good

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bullshit meter, and uh twenty twenty five really uh started

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out with you know, well, definitely definitely shot out shout

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out the shout out the gate really quick here, and

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a lot of things happened. I mean, you know, I

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don't know how else to say it, you know, try

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not to use certain words, right.

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But yeah, all right, you don't want to get to monetize.

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Yeah, well whatever, So here's here's the thing we can address,

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and I'll get your opinions. I'm not gonna hold you

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to anything, by the way. Okay, so let's let's address

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what your thoughts are, given your history and everything that

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you've done, and you know your ability to basically find

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extracly you know, information and decipher it accurately. Uh, what

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what is what has been your position to take on

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what happened both in New Orleans and Las Vegas?

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Uh?

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Do you what do you think of that? And I

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know there was some stuff that you had an opinion

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on certain things regarding letters that that happened with you know,

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Las Vegas, et cetera. And we'll get into that if

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you're okay with it. But what what is your opinion

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in general on those two separate incidents.

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I think at some point we failed our soldiers, right,

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at some point the safety system failed, and you have

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two guys who have either been consuming ideology or maybe

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had a traumatic brain injury. And I think that one

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of the things we need to work on is allowing

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mental health as as a as A as a need

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to be able to let soldiers go see mental health, right,

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like if some want something isn't feeling right, And just

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because you don't have a physical injury doesn't mean that

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you might not have a mental injury or something like

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ct is it eat the thing the football people CT

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and off chronic traumatic and sepalopathy and SEP that thing

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that that people who play football CD. So you know,

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if you have something like CTE, you know you've been injured,

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but that injury isn't visible, And so all right, well

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why haven't why haven't you gotten that looked at? Right?

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Are you afraid that people are going to call you

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weak for going to see mental health when you have

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a genuine, honest, good injury, even if that injury isn't seen,

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you know, isn't visible. So I think that there there

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is a non zero chance that some of the participants

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in those events had some sort of CTE issue.

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It's a possibility, I won't really.

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And they they just didn't They just didn't get the

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care that they needed. Now, there's also the possibility that

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at least in the New Orleans case, where you had

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a guy who just, uh, you know, life wasn't going

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for him so well, and he finds another path and

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he decides to go down that path and hurt people.

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That's I mean, I don't know how you fix that

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after they're gone, you know, it could be something as

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simple as like you know, once you once you join

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the military, like why why why aren't we checking up

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on our veterans? Right?

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Yeah, agreed, Night. I do have a friend that brings

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this up quite a bit because you know, he's in

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and out of whatever the VA allows him to get

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in terms of treatment. You know, he's at their mercy.

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Really yeah, and there has always been a concern for

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him and other people I know who's served. It's and

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you're right, there's always that manly, macho and even if

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you're not a man whatever, it's just that there's that

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that level of like, I'm not a weak person. I'm

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not going to go ahead and submit to getting you know,

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care for for whatever's going on in my head. Right,

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And you're I think your point about CTE is it's

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a valid one because it's something that it's not not

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detectable immediately. It just kind of comes on and there's

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no real care for it. You just got to kind

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of manage it and it gets progressively worse over time.

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So I think it might be onto something there, and

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that could have been the case as to why you know,

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these people chose to do what they did, right New Orleans.

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I don't know. Look, I'm not an expert in it.

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I'm just I just know what I've read and based

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on the information and release, one person you know, serves

461
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in the military, US citizen and decides I'm gonna go

462
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:09.000
ahead and commit to Islam and to you know, just

463
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.359
extremism in general. Fine, but I'm not sure what would

464
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:14.920
cause that. As far as Lebrusburger go, I can't figure

465
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.279
that one out. Got got a career green beret, someone

466
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:20.680
who's still you know, serving, et cetera. I can't really

467
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:22.720
make sense of that one either. And I'm not gonna

468
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:24.519
I'm not gonna say what exactly happened because I can't,

469
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.359
you know, I really can't. But you know, so that

470
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:33.000
one's an interesting case. The thing is, I'm not gonna

471
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.480
put you on the spot and ask what you believe,

472
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.839
but I will ask you about the letters that that

473
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.799
were released, you know, like the two emails and then

474
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.240
the other one. What was your take on that. I mean,

475
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.400
it kind of just came out sudden, and to me,

476
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:46.400
it looked like it was almost written by three different people.

477
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:50.559
And kind of what you said about CTE might have

478
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.599
been a you know, a contributing factor to that, but

479
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.279
who knows what? What do you think of that? That?

480
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:58.079
It's it's a tough one. It's a tough one because

481
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:03.799
there's a lot of inconsistency. Now I'm actually I bringing news.

482
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.359
I'm actually digging deeper into that because I think I

483
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.160
using the email address, I actually think I found the

484
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.200
guy's phone number. This is kind of what I do. Interesting,

485
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:18.160
So I'm sorry, Yeah, and I'm gonna I need to

486
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:20.680
like cross all my eyes and dot all my te's.

487
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.680
I ain't kind of the The thing that kind of

488
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.400
upset me with the way that was handled was that

489
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:32.200
the people involved instead of you know, going to the FBI,

490
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:37.079
uh you you know, let's make a video and try

491
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.480
to make clicks, right as opposed to like that that's

492
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:46.200
a little I'm actually familiar with the person who broke

493
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:49.640
that story, and there was there's some issues with that

494
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:56.599
particular individual. I encounter that person before you're like, uh,

495
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:01.079
there was this video or this post this person made

496
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.240
about Fort Novasel. Now like oh, we don't have any

497
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.240
money to train our pilots at Fort Nova Cell. I

498
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.319
was like, dude, I'm going down to Fort Nova Cel

499
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.880
to make a video in two weeks and I like,

500
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.160
I heard any talk of the po wow and like,

501
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:23.000
so there's like I get why someone who didn't want

502
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:28.200
to take the COVID vaccine might be upset about about

503
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.720
their status in life, right or a set at the

504
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.319
military that told them go take this unproven vaccine. I

505
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:40.160
get that, But at the same time, like, don't try

506
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.319
to screw over other people who are still serving number

507
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:49.160
one and number two it freaking like, don't parent Russian propaganda.

508
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:55.319
R Like, it's it's just there's a there are a

509
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.480
lot of questions that need to be answered. I think

510
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.920
part of the part of the issue is that that

511
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.400
it's it's this, it's the source of the message, not

512
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.799
necessarily the nature of the message. That that's kind of

513
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.240
an issue. I think more digging needs to be done.

514
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.920
There's also some other issues, because like if if you

515
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.519
were a bad guy, let's say, if you if you're

516
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.960
a bad guy, if you are running from the police,

517
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.519
you probably shouldn't take a cyber truck, right, You probably

518
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.160
shouldn't leave something that makes a paper trail.

519
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.000
Unless something's so freaking yeah, flashy and draw so much attention.

520
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:39.680
I mean, why would you do it?

521
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:43.559
Yeah, unless you wanted to have a paper trail, you know,

522
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.559
and because like in your mind, like this is the

523
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.279
only way this thing can get any attention is if

524
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:55.559
I create an electronic trail, a breadcrumb trail. But like

525
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.480
if you really were on the run from the police

526
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.920
and they were trying to find you, you Yeah, and

527
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.160
I'm not a counterintelligence guy, but like, if I wanted

528
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.240
to disappear, I certainly wouldn't use a cyber truck to

529
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:13.279
do it. No, right, agreed, unless I wanted to be tracked,

530
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.960
which kind of gets into another thing entirely.

531
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.920
I'm I'm on the same path you are, right now,

532
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.319
I get where you're wrong with it. Yeah, why why

533
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.079
would you leave such an obvious like you said, trailer breadcombs?

534
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.480
Why would you do that? It doesn't make sense, It doesn't.

535
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.759
And of course, without naming names, I know, you know,

536
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.599
we'll avoid certain names. I'm personally not afraid of any

537
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.119
of them, to be quite honest, I can care less

538
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.279
as long as there's facts and data behind it. But

539
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.160
you know, I just think that this was a case

540
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.759
of yes, the story shouldn't have been broken how it was.

541
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.480
It should have went to the to the authorities first.

542
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.519
You know, let's let them get their hands on that,

543
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.920
let them see what's happening with it. But no, you know,

544
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.359
it turned out to be a big media fiasco. Maybe

545
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.240
it was all about likes and clicks or just to

546
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:01.799
be hey, I got the breaking story. I got to

547
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.039
get this out. I think it should have been vetted

548
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.359
more personally, because it's really hard to determine, you know,

549
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.799
all the facts involved with that. It was just kind

550
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.039
of a sudden oh, by the way, we found these

551
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.480
ideas that weren't burned and whatever. Oh and by the

552
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.599
way this happened, and hey, look now we have these

553
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.000
messages out of nowhere. So there was definitely a lot

554
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.640
more digging to do before, you know, they really broke

555
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.319
that story. I think they could have just said, hey,

556
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.440
we found some communications that may have been, you know,

557
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.759
center related to Matthew Lubersberger. They could have done that,

558
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.160
but they chose not to, and so I kind of

559
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.279
had an issue with that too. And it's also a

560
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.160
case of where, you know, let's say someone like yourself,

561
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.359
this is what you do for a living, and you're

562
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.039
like questioning it and you get criticized for it, and

563
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.400
it's only because maybe you know, the other said person

564
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.640
just happens to be a more popular person in the

565
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.200
media space, and so somehow that person more credible, which

566
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.160
happens a lot and doesn't really make much sense. So

567
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.480
I hate that too, and I don't think that's the

568
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.119
correct way for people to view that that situation either.

569
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.759
It's ridiculous personally, But I'm with you. I think more

570
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.400
digging has to be done. Is that something that you're

571
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.680
going to continue to do and eventually.

572
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.880
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm actually doing it right now. Cool.

573
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.200
I look forward to your assessment, to be quite honest,

574
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.480
you know, I want an answer on it. It's just

575
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.680
really strange situation, it really is, and I think to

576
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.319
many people are jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. Personally. Yeah,

577
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:33.039
so no, there's that, but yeah, well, not much more

578
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.079
to say on that until we know more.

579
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:39.119
Right, Well, what do you think is going on? Well,

580
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:39.920
I know you don't want to get.

581
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.559
Into politics, because that's that's not what most intel type

582
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.039
people do. You want to stay more neutral, and it's understandable,

583
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:47.720
But how do you think how do you think moving

584
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.240
forward to twenty twenty five, where does America fit into

585
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.759
the geopolitical space for the in the world right now,

586
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.359
once Trump actually takes the reins, and I don't we

587
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.880
don't have to talk about Trump and genteship, but just

588
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.799
just how everything might be approached and handled and how

589
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.519
the world might see us moving forward. What do you

590
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:06.119
think about that?

591
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.039
So I think that that in a lot of ways,

592
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.640
there's a new sheriff in town, okay, right. And I

593
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:18.079
think that one of the things that President Trump has

594
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.559
not not a lot of other other people have, is

595
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.000
he certainly has his own way of doing things.

596
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:27.519
Yes, he does.

597
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:32.640
And and so you know what what you have now

598
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.720
is a guy who, you know, world leaders who might

599
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:44.079
be questioning how they're going to proceed with their their

600
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.279
way of doing business because you have a guy who

601
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.640
is a genuine, honest to god wild card, right exactly.

602
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.880
I think that that's going to be it's certainly going

603
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.599
to be the case with Iran, where you know, for

604
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.960
for the most part, what we've seen coming out of

605
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.200
the current administration. Uh and you know we're recording this

606
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.599
in January seventh, right, is it's it's almost like you

607
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.960
do have a guy who's checked out, right, you have

608
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.440
a guy who is he's made decisions that may not

609
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.719
have been the best decisions, one of which might have been,

610
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.239
let's let's slow walk ammunition to Ukraine, right Like, let's, uh,

611
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:38.079
let's let's only give Ukraine enough ammunition so they don't lose,

612
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.960
but let's give them enough so that they lose slowly.

613
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.920
And that's that's probably not a good policy, right, Like

614
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.760
we had started the war with like, hey, we're gonna

615
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.639
give Ukraine anything they need in order to kick the

616
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.360
Russians out, I think we would see a totally different

617
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.400
situation going on in Ukraine.

618
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.440
It would definitely a different outcome right now.

619
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.400
For sure it would be. And there's no excuse I

620
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.400
think we have Look, we got plenty of F sixteen's

621
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.960
in the boneyard. We can refurbish those things. We have

622
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.400
so many options and ways to help Ukraine, and we

623
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.280
sent I think it was around twenty and one Abrams

624
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:25.320
tanks to Ukraine and like great, but that's it's not

625
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.760
a lot, right like they and are are those tanks?

626
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.719
Are those tanks in particular even applicable to to modern

627
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.239
war like in this war in it of itself, do

628
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:35.719
you think.

629
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.960
Oh, it seems like it seems like what Ukraine is

630
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:46.920
trying to do with with their with their forces. Is there,

631
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.920
there's there. They're not using tanks to break through. Okay,

632
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.159
that's traditionally what you use a tank for. Find where

633
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.440
the bad guys are, find the weak point, breakthrough with armor,

634
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.679
and then run havoc in the rear. Right, And it

635
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.199
doesn't seem like they're doing it that way, which is

636
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:05.719
how we would do it. And there's a reason why,

637
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.079
because they don't have air support.

638
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:08.280
Gotcha.

639
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.840
Now, Originally I had said that, you know, F sixteen's

640
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:17.639
were necessary because F sixteens can fire the harm anti

641
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.920
radiation missile, and once you fire that harm anti radiation missile,

642
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.280
or once you once you start taking out Russian surface

643
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.360
to air missiles, that forces the Russian people back, and

644
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:33.159
then you can use jade ms against certain hard targets,

645
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:40.000
and then you can use F sixteens for air superiority,

646
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.719
and that that kind of changes what you can do

647
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.320
on the ground with your tanks, right once you have

648
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.440
their superiority. The reason this war has lasted so long

649
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:55.159
is partially due to the fact that neither side has

650
00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:02.239
really gained air superiority. And that's a huge issue. And

651
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.840
I think one of the things that that we might

652
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.559
have learned here and our rule was something to know

653
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.800
or something to understand going forward, is that if you

654
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.239
don't have air superiority and this now includes space, you

655
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.599
don't have air slash space superiority, you're gonna have long wars.

656
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.159
You're gonna have wars to take a long freaking time. Yeah,

657
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.480
with that, and you know, if you're cool.

658
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.880
With that, you know, like, Okay, do you think it's

659
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.039
just been unnecessarily drawn out?

660
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.000
Definitely? And and it's this is one of those things

661
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.559
where it could have been a lot I'm gonna say

662
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.960
it could have been a lot shorter. I think that

663
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.199
that if we had given Ukraine the stuff they needed

664
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.559
when this this whole war started. Uh. You know, one

665
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.320
of the things I said is we can't just send

666
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.840
F sixteens to Ukraine, right, we can't just you know, like, oh,

667
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.920
let's send F sixteens to Ukraine. We can't send them there.

668
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.679
It takes like a year long training course, we have

669
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.880
to worry about maintainers. There's a lot of things we

670
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.239
have to do before we can give F sixteens to Ukraine.

671
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.079
But if we had started that process the day of

672
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.360
the war started, we'd be in a different position.

673
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.400
Do you think do you think that may be also

674
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.920
the concern of that of the NATO element in and

675
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.800
of self, the agreements there kind of was a contribute

676
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.800
factor to kind of holding back a bit in the beginning.

677
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.639
Yeah, I mean so, I think when this whole thing

678
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.320
first started, there are a lot of people who like,

679
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.519
they didn't want to upset Russia, right, right, Well, let's

680
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:48.280
not let's not poke the bar, let's not yeah this

681
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:52.079
could be yeah, let's not escalate. That's that's the one

682
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.760
damn word they kept using escalation. They did, we don't

683
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.519
want to escalate things. Well, Russia doesn't need our help

684
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:05.480
with s escalating anything like they they do that naturally. Right,

685
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.840
This is true. And I think one of the things

686
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.480
that we discovered when Russia was or when Ukraine actually

687
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:21.320
invaded Kursk was that Russia, I'm not saying they're a

688
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:26.880
paper tiger, but they didn't strike back with nuclear weapons

689
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:33.519
and using nuclear weapons in Kursk. That would be a

690
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:38.159
reason for using nuclear weapons, right, It is a valid

691
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.480
use case in the sense of all right, there is

692
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.639
a there's a bad guy invading, we can drop a

693
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.199
bomb here, and that would have stopped the invasion cold

694
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.440
and I think that in some ways, Ukraine, I don't know,

695
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.400
Ukraine Russia would have been I don't want to say

696
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.960
the word justified, but there would have been less blowback

697
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:07.920
if Russia fired a nuclear weapon, a tactical nuclear weapon

698
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:13.000
against invading Ukrainian forces, if they went into Kursk, then

699
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.480
if they used it on Ukrainian soil. Now, of course,

700
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.480
one of the disadvantage of that. Disadvantages of that is

701
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.639
you're using it on your own soil exactly, and the

702
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.119
winds prevailing winds if they're going west or they're going east,

703
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:28.519
that's a problem for you. If they're going west, that's

704
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.239
a problem for Europe. So Europe still would have been

705
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:37.119
could have been very upset that they did that. However,

706
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.920
they probably would have been. Honestly, that probably would have

707
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.920
been the best way of justifying using a nuclear weapon,

708
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.559
and it would have stopped the work hold.

709
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.559
Right, it would have. But I'm going to lean more

710
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.960
towards the side that they would have actually been affecting

711
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.760
their own land and also probably engaging, you know, other

712
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.400
nations that they didn't want to be engaged with at

713
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.960
that time. Yeah, and probably still they don't. But fast

714
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:09.440
forward to their use of the hypersonic missile technologies, and

715
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.400
they launched, they launched when they used one. They haven't

716
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.440
done it again that I know of. Why do you

717
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.559
think they might be holding back on using those for example?

718
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.079
Well, I mean they're expensive. It's ten million dollars a missing.

719
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.440
Fair enough. Now, Like, look, when you're when you're Russia,

720
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.039
you have you know your I think the budget, I

721
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.199
want to say, it's like one hundred and twenty billion

722
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.079
dollars a year, like one hundred and twenty eight billion year.

723
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.840
I think that's what their military budget is. You know,

724
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.159
our is eight hundred billion twenty six significantly like that,

725
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.559
significantly different. Right. That's actually one of the reasons when

726
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.440
people say, like, oh my god, what if Frusher goes nuclear? Like, dude,

727
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.320
we spent eighty billion, it was fifty to fifty billion

728
00:41:54.360 --> 00:42:00.480
dollars a year on our nuclear program, right, and we

729
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.159
have roughly the same amount of nuclear weapons as Russia.

730
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.039
So what did that? You know, we spent fifty billion

731
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.719
dollars a year and Russia was spending sixty six billion

732
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.559
on their entire army back in twenty twenty. Oh. You know,

733
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.000
I think that I'm certain that there are some Russian

734
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.199
nuclear weapons that have been maintained, They have their tritium refilled.

735
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:27.800
You know, they've gone through at least two and a

736
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.679
half I think tritium cycles. Tritium is the booster that

737
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.960
you use a nucular weapon that that decays kind of

738
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.760
the same tritium that's in my gun sights, right, Russia,

739
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.719
So you use that as a booster for the weapon.

740
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.280
I mean, they've been through two tritium decay cycles. Tritiums

741
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:48.760
are really expensive, so I could easily see Russia making

742
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.880
sure that they have a couple of working warheads, especially

743
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.760
on like their Bory class submarines, but their whole arsenal

744
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.239
not a chance in hell that they have their whole

745
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.840
arsenal ready ran. One nuclear weapon might be too many.

746
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.239
But I think this whole specter of oh my god,

747
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.239
what if Russia goes nuclear like? And I don't really

748
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.639
see that as a real stick thing because if they

749
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:09.920
were going to do that, Chris would have been the

750
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.599
place to do it, and they didn't. Gotcha, No, I

751
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.800
think only we got off on a tangent somewhere.

752
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.760
Oh no, no, it's it's it's it's fine. I mean,

753
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.239
you're you're giving your opinion based on the facts and

754
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.079
data you know about this, and it's important to point

755
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.719
that out. And it's interesting how you know, basically we

756
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.800
spend more than Russia, but yet we have approximately the

757
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:33.880
same amount of nuclear warheads or weapons, which is kind

758
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.599
of telling it's crazy, right, Yeah, And of course, yeah,

759
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.800
hypersonic missiles are expensive. And then Russia just just lost

760
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.320
one of their major you know, income sources, right, They're

761
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.440
no longer going to be supplying gas. They got cut

762
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.800
off there. I forgot where it's coming from now. Uh,

763
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.559
but you know, a lot goes in the head sometimes

764
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.960
it sometimes it just doesn't stick there. But I know

765
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:58.840
that they lost that source of income now, right, So

766
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.119
there's there's there's money off the table for continued funding

767
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:08.159
from that side. Also for Russia. Interestingly though, relationship wise,

768
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.159
what's okay your take? Almost going on in North Korea

769
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:16.000
right now? How they just suddenly were a part of

770
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.599
supporting Russia. Now I kind of can understand the relationship

771
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:24.079
with Russia North Korea, I get it. But that being said,

772
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.760
they've been in the war in Ukraine and fast forward

773
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.960
here they are now allegedly testing their own hypersonic missiles, right,

774
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.440
They just launched one fell into the sea over there

775
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.840
on its way to Japan. But we don't even know

776
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.800
if that's confirmed. I know they've been testing for since

777
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.079
is it since twenty twenty or something like that. I

778
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.679
think they've been trying to test us for a while,

779
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.880
but I don't know if they really have that technology.

780
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:50.599
Now.

781
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.920
Is a lot that you think attributed, possibly through the

782
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.679
to the relationship they have with Russia currently. Do you

783
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.480
think Russia's sharing technologies?

784
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.760
Yeah, I think they have to, like that's that's something

785
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:09.519
they absolutely have to do. And you know, the big

786
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.800
issue with Russia, and people talk about how big Russia is.

787
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.119
They have all these troops, but they also kind of

788
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.559
don't gotcha. For the longest time, Russia had this deal

789
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:24.480
with their population. The population said, listen, you can do

790
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.480
whatever you want, have whatever wars you want, but don't

791
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.880
touch our kids. It was the second you touched our kids,

792
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.960
that's when we're going to have a revolution. And so

793
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:36.840
as long as you don't touch the kids in Saint

794
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.639
Petersburg and Moscow, then you don't have to worry about

795
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:49.679
Russian people rebelling against you. Calling people up now. A

796
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:55.039
couple of years ago in twenty twenty two in the summer,

797
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.519
we had a general that Russia had a general mobilization,

798
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.440
and that was when you add all those problems with

799
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:06.559
people showing up and like, how do you they didn't

800
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.880
know they hadn't actually been to training because they had

801
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.920
gotten a deferment, but they were still in the system

802
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.800
that they had gone to training. Like that, that's when

803
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.840
you add all sorts of problems. So what Russia has

804
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:24.920
tried to do is they've tried to just do volunteers,

805
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.840
just do an all volunteer army, Like, we're still going

806
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.199
to have conscripts, but these conscripts are going to be

807
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:35.559
safely in the rear lince. And the issue is that

808
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.400
they keep having to raise the bonuses and the pay

809
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:46.440
for soldiers. So, now if you are a weapons manufacturing company,

810
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.800
and Russia, I think like twenty percent of their economy

811
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:54.480
or so is focused on making weapons. So if you're

812
00:46:54.840 --> 00:47:00.320
manufacturing weapons, now you have to outbid people who can

813
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.039
get more money by joining the army. So then the

814
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:08.079
weapons manufacturers have to raise the wages, and so the

815
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:10.400
army then has to raise the wages. So the weapons

816
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.800
manufacturers raise the wages, and so now you have this

817
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:21.840
kind of crazy situation where you have inflation going like crazy, right,

818
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:29.039
because everybody has a job and everybody is making money

819
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:35.559
and either in the army or in doing the doing

820
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:40.280
the weapons manufacturing thing, and that creates inflation. So now

821
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.400
you have essentially runaway inflation inside Russia, and now you're

822
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:48.320
at a point where Russia literally can't stop the war

823
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.280
because the second they do, there's going to be a

824
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:55.159
huge freaking problem. And then that problem is like you're

825
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.280
gonna have a whole bunch of people unemployed, and that's

826
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.519
how you end up getting the Cholchesky special.

827
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.519
Okay, So so you think they might be at the

828
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:05.360
point that if they just suddenly stopped the sword, that

829
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.800
it would just basically crash your economy or bring it

830
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.280
to a halt.

831
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.159
Look, you've just you've just trained about hundreds of thousands

832
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.239
of people and how to use weapons systems, right, and

833
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.199
now all those people are out of a job now. Granted,

834
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.360
gun control is a little stricter in Russia than it

835
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:33.599
is in the US, but men who want to start

836
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:35.519
revolutions have always seemed to.

837
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.840
Be able to find guns absolutely.

838
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:41.599
And you know, you have a bunch of people who've

839
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:44.639
been you know who get out of the army because

840
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.199
the war has stopped and now they can't find a

841
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.000
job anywhere. That's a recipe for absolute disaster.

842
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:52.679
Yeah, agreed.

843
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.480
So it's it's almost like Russia literally can't stop this war.

844
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.320
They have to keep a gun. That's one of the

845
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.039
reasons I I don't think President Trump was going to

846
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.400
a piece within twenty four hours, Like it's just not

847
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:10.239
it doesn't work for Putin. No, he's not going to

848
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:11.280
be able to stay in power.

849
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.079
And earlier, earlier though, we dropped out a bit, so

850
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.880
I might have missed what you were saying about why

851
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.639
you felt they had to keep that relationship with North Korea.

852
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:26.559
Yeah, so Russia they need men. They can't get soldiers

853
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:32.559
from the general population through a general mobilization because the

854
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.639
people in Saint Petersburg and Moscow won't like that. Okay, Right,

855
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.119
there's been this deal that like hey, you know, do

856
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.239
whatever you want, but don't take our kids. Take the

857
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:43.559
other kids, don't take our kid.

858
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.039
So basically they're relying on allies to help them bolter

859
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:48.360
their forces at this point.

860
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.400
Absolutely, and so like hey, we're going to give you,

861
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.920
We're going to give you weapon technology we're going to

862
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.880
give you maybe nuclear technology you give us men? Got it?

863
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.000
Why Why isn't China stepped in though? So there's there's

864
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.320
supposed to be the one of the biggest allies to

865
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.920
Russian but yet China's been quiet in supporting or even

866
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.360
election to even step in and help Russia with their efforts.

867
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.639
Do you think that relationship might be slowly just disintegrating,

868
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.519
like maybe they're just getting away from each other.

869
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.360
I think that that China's always gotta do it's best

870
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:25.039
for China, and it's just it's not you know, actually

871
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:29.840
fighting in in Ukraine just isn't what's best for China

872
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.719
because I think that would you know, China wants to

873
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:39.480
sell uh cheap, cheap consumer products to everybody in the world,

874
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:43.719
right yep, But we don't necessarily need to buy those products,

875
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.920
right Like if if Tomorrow is actually part of my

876
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.119
book The Wind Machine, you know, if tomorrow China stopped

877
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.400
selling cheap toasters, right or cheap alarm clocks, someone would

878
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.880
step in to fill that void. Might be South America,

879
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.679
might be Mexico. We would certainly figure out a way

880
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.480
to use cheap labor to manufacture stuff. Again, Yeah, that

881
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.320
would that would happen, and it would almost definitely happen

882
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.280
sooner if China decided to put boots on the ground

883
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.960
and actually go fight in Ukraine, you know, in other ways,

884
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.800
like it makes more sense to have a weak Russia

885
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.599
for China because they're getting a hell of a deal

886
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:33.679
on oil right now, right like seriously, right like like

887
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.079
why should we go help? China doesn't want this war

888
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.760
to end because you know, the second this war ends,

889
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.039
my god, one of two things gonna happen. If the

890
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:48.440
war ends and uh and Putin is still in charge,

891
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.360
there is a non zero chance that they might start

892
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:57.239
selling oil to other countries. And now the price of

893
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:04.639
oil goes up. And if Putin loses and Russia either

894
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.880
fractures into a bunch of warlord states, which is you know,

895
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.119
that's certainly a non zero possibility that Russia could fracture

896
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:16.880
into a bunch of warlord states, then they lose their

897
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:21.239
oil as well. So it's actually best for China to

898
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.920
just kind of keep this war going on as long

899
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.760
as humanly possible because they get cheap oil out of it,

900
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.360
all right, So why would they want this war to end?

901
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.400
I can see that, like they look they could have.

902
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:39.000
They could have they when the Huthis were shooting missiles

903
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.440
in the Red Sea, China could have sent ships there

904
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:48.760
and got experience in actually shooting down missiles because they're

905
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:50.320
gonna need that for when they invade.

906
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.000
Taiwan is going to go eventually.

907
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.360
But I would saying, look, you know, they're essentially farming

908
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:02.519
XP right. You know, when when are when our forces

909
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.239
were in in the Red Sea, when the US is Carney,

910
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.360
you know, the largest distributor of Iranian drone parts in

911
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.960
the world, the US is Carney rolled into the Red Sea.

912
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:16.559
I think they had I want to say, fifty six

913
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.760
fifty fifty six engagements. They went fifty six and zero, right,

914
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.000
says Carney. And those people are incredible, those sailors. You know,

915
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:29.960
if I ever meet someone from the US's Carney, They're

916
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.719
never gonna have to buy a drink. And I'm serious.

917
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.800
They did an incredible job. And what we what we

918
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.760
learned from from that environment where these are shooting missiles

919
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:45.280
at US and we're shooting them down, we learned a

920
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.719
lot about ages about how our missiles function. We got

921
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.440
a lot of telemetry, a lot of data on all

922
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:58.119
this stuff. And you know, trying kind of could have

923
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:02.000
sent a couple of destroyers there helped out with the mission. Yeah,

924
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.880
they have ships there for doing anti piracy stuff, right,

925
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.559
so why didn't they do that? Well, I mean it

926
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.400
could be that they were afraid their missiles wouldn't work

927
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.360
and they wouldn't want us to see that. So that

928
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.159
might be possibly one thing, yeah, right. Another thing might

929
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:26.800
be that they wanted chaos in that area, that particular

930
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:32.440
part of the world because somehow that benefits China. You know,

931
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.480
there's there's quite a few reasons why they might not

932
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:40.440
have wanted to participate and that, and you know, you

933
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.000
could say the same for Ukraine. China could send troops

934
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.639
over to Ukraine and farm Xpe learn how to fight.

935
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.440
They haven't fought the wars as they fought oh boy, Vietnam,

936
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:54.599
and I think that was in seventy nine, maybe seventy seven,

937
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.199
seventy nine, I think.

938
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.519
So it's really been a long time since they've ever

939
00:54:58.639 --> 00:54:59.480
really been tested.

940
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.480
There is nobody I doubt there's anybody left in the

941
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:12.400
Chinese military who was on active duty when China invaded Vietnam, Right,

942
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.559
so they essentially have no more experience. I ranted for

943
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:21.920
us all the guys we served around the Global War

944
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:27.480
on Terror or either you know, high ranking sergeants, high

945
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:32.400
ranking NCOs or high ranking officers, those lieutenants and captains.

946
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.840
They've been promoted since then. You know, the war was

947
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:41.480
God twenty three, my God, twenty four years ago. I'm

948
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:42.360
almost fifty.

949
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:44.679
Me too, I'm forty nine.

950
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.400
Like it's kind of crazy, I'm forty nine.

951
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.400
It's crazy to look back at things like, man, hey,

952
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:52.239
you know, we were.

953
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:57.760
In Afghanistan for so long that someone who was born

954
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.920
on the day of the terrorists acts could have actually

955
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.199
been in Afghanistan.

956
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:07.880
Yeah, you know, you know that's a crazy.

957
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.239
Guy who was serving in Afghanistan could have had a

958
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:16.480
kid who joined the army and ended up serving in Afghanistan, right, Yeah, yeah,

959
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.440
Like that's kind of crazy when you think about it,

960
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.320
like the war lasted that long, but all those people,

961
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.639
you know, at least we have some data right on

962
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.800
how we perform in combat, even though we don't have

963
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:33.159
those those soldiers anymore, you know, in we don't have

964
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.440
low lower ranking soldiers of combat experience and also anything

965
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.000
about it, we have the wrong kind of combat experience

966
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.360
because that was coined, that was counterinsurgency, and now it's

967
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.079
all list scale or large scale combat operations. So now

968
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:50.840
anybody who's remaining in the military has the right experience

969
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.119
for the wrong war, and that could be just as

970
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.800
detrimental as not having any experience at all, but at

971
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.840
least well positive or negative however you want to view it.

972
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:03.960
You know, the American forces have been tested pretty consistently

973
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:06.960
throughout the years. I think we kind of know what

974
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:08.960
we're doing in in the you know, for the most

975
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.320
most part, we're not perfect, but you know, we are

976
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.800
pretty battle tested. You know, we have a pretty battle

977
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.880
test in America American Force period.

978
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:21.760
So a lot of that is a lot of that

979
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.800
is training. Yeah, I U ling was last year I

980
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.440
embedded with the Two years ago I embedded with the

981
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.159
first airborne with the Rocaissans. They had an air assault

982
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.960
with those guys, and you know, they're is just as

983
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.440
good as they were ten years ago. Were do you have.

984
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.079
I want to interject real quick, real quick, because I

985
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.039
know we're gonna have so much time. I want to

986
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.159
say on the China thing, really from an if you're

987
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.400
okay with that, because it seems like they've been again,

988
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:55.679
you know, really pushing the issue about Taiwan. Uh President

989
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:57.920
G has already, you know, made a few statements on

990
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.320
Taiwan will always be Chinese and no one's ever going

991
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.079
to get between us and whatnot. And they're they're doing

992
00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:07.880
more and more exercise and maneuvers over there. And do

993
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.440
you think we're eventually within a few years going to

994
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.280
be on that I mean, it seems like we're kind

995
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:13.800
of on a collision course. Do you think that is

996
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.079
the case or is it just a lot of huff

997
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:17.039
and puffs, so to speak.

998
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:22.360
I think that that President Z has told their military

999
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:26.360
that they have to be ready to invade Taiwan by

1000
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:30.079
twenty twenty seven, got it, Like that's when they that's

1001
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.800
when they are supposed to be ready.

1002
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:34.320
And that's a consensus I've gotten from other people too.

1003
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.960
They kind of feel like by twenty seven, maybe even

1004
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.679
as far out as twenty thirty, we might be in

1005
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.679
that situation where we might have to defend Taiwan or

1006
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:46.320
there might be a situation with Taiwan and China.

1007
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.639
The ideal time to do it would be in April

1008
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:57.079
of twenty twenty twenty eight or October twenty twenty eight,

1009
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.320
because that's when there's a US presidential election, right that

1010
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.880
transition it and nobody wants to make the wrong decision

1011
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.440
right during a presidential election. So that would be, you know,

1012
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.280
twenty twenty seven is when they're supposed to be ready.

1013
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.559
And it's if you say, like, hey, China's going to

1014
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:18.320
invade Tiwan twenty twenty seven, that's the general consensus of

1015
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:23.440
when they will be ready. Now, whether China can still

1016
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.320
be deterred, that's kind of a different question, right, that

1017
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.599
is that is a different a valid question play will

1018
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.000
we be able to deter China? And I think that

1019
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.400
that's gonna that's going to come into play with all right,

1020
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.760
how are our alli is going to play into this

1021
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.159
because you know, we look at America can't do it

1022
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:54.679
all America is I think it was sixty sixty one

1023
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:59.119
hundred miles away, sixty one hundred miles from the US

1024
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.880
to to uh Taiwan. That is a heck of a

1025
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:07.360
long way to get supplies and missiles and such. And

1026
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:11.280
so that's why we need to rely on our allies. Australia,

1027
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:17.079
the Philippines, the UK, France, Canada, Japan, South Korea like

1028
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.400
all them have invested interest in making sure that China

1029
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.159
doesn't do stupid stuff and you look at this, I

1030
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:31.440
would say especially the Philippines because at the Philippines, the

1031
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.400
Chinese Coast Guard will frequently roll into their their territory

1032
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.760
with their And when I say the Chinese coast Guard,

1033
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.000
people think of the coast Guard and think, oh, they

1034
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.840
go rest rescue people, and it's not necessarily true. The

1035
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.719
Chinese Coast Guard are a bunch of bullies. They go

1036
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.280
around and they they they harass fishing boats. You know,

1037
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.880
they shoot water cannons at fishing boats, They do unsafe

1038
01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.519
navigation to bully people into leaving.

1039
01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.559
So yeah, that.

1040
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.559
You know, the Philippines, if anybody has a vested reason

1041
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:11.320
to to to fight China to make sure that China

1042
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.760
doesn't expand their zone of control. So we have to

1043
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.440
rely on our allies. And I think if if we

1044
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:21.320
rely on if we if we have a strong alliance,

1045
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:27.199
and also if we stand together with Ukraine. Now China

1046
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:31.559
is watching how we respond to the events going on

1047
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.519
in Ukraine. Oh absolutely, and they're going to look at

1048
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:40.880
Ukraine and say, all right, well, these guys didn't support Ukraine.

1049
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:45.599
When there's a freaking rail line connecting Ukraine and Poland.

1050
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:50.519
Why are they going to support Taiwan when Taiwan is

1051
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:54.760
sixty one hundred miles away from everything but China, Right,

1052
01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:04.320
So that I actually see China being a very cognizant

1053
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.079
of what's going on in Ukraine. I actually view how

1054
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:12.400
we find Ukraine to be directly proportional to how China

1055
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:16.280
is going to perceive our resolve if to turn its

1056
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.159
fails and we have to go to war in China.

1057
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:21.199
This is true. And you know, circling back to the

1058
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:25.559
original question while back about how Trump may affect things,

1059
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:27.880
you know, and I'll get into politics, but just in general,

1060
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.239
there's you know, his view of how he handles things.

1061
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.119
He's a wild card. And I think that's what's held

1062
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.719
most things that day, Like people are unsure like will

1063
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:36.320
he pressed the button? Is he really going to do that?

1064
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.199
That they don't know how he would respond. He just

1065
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:42.159
has enough crazy to make people, you know, second guests themselves,

1066
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:46.079
and that might be the X factor, so to speak. Right,

1067
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.639
And it makes complete sense as to why, you know,

1068
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.760
most people are predicting that China made any move, it

1069
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:55.760
might be twenty seven to twenty eight, like they're gonna

1070
01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:00.960
wait this period out, So that having said, though Trump

1071
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.239
has been adamant about not funding Ukraine, is that the

1072
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:06.400
right decision in your mind?

1073
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:11.000
So he might have said that there's things you say

1074
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.840
to get elected, and there's there's things you say when

1075
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:19.679
you actually enter power. And I think that I don't

1076
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.760
recall Trump ever saying he doesn't want to fund Ukraine.

1077
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.239
I know that that he wants Ukraine to pay for

1078
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.480
a lot of weapons systems. Is right now, we're sending

1079
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.599
a lot of weapons systems over that are old, but

1080
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.280
we have to replace anyway. And it's actually cheaper for

1081
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:40.360
us to uh send these old weapons systems over to

1082
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:45.360
another country than it is to actually that it is

1083
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.599
to actually send them back to Raiate. You want to

1084
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.000
get them to milled. So we're actually saving money and

1085
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.599
we're sending old weapons to Ukraine and some things like uh,

1086
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.360
like we were taking M one one three's and we're

1087
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.880
dumping them in the ocean. Yeah, we would. We would

1088
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.320
take all of the fluids out of them and dump

1089
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.760
them in the ocean to create artificial reefs. I like fish.

1090
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.239
I think fish, You're great. It's not a bad idea

1091
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:15.039
to have, you know, an artificial reef. But you know,

1092
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.159
I also kind of think that that we could also

1093
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.440
take these mm one thres and we can send them

1094
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.840
over to Ukraine and you can use them to kick

1095
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.280
the Russians out of their country. We get rid of them,

1096
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.199
Ukraine gets rid of Russia. Everybody wins except the Russians,

1097
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:32.679
which is kind of how it should be, right like that, right, right? Yeah,

1098
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:37.960
that that's the ideal situation there. So you know, when

1099
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.000
it comes to missiles, if we don't fire them, they expire. Eventually.

1100
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:45.360
We need to We need to fire these things if

1101
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.440
we can. There's not enough days in the training calendar

1102
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:49.719
fire all our stuff. So why not send me to

1103
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.719
the Ukraine. Let Ukraine fire these rockets stored Russians. Saves

1104
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:57.719
us the disposal cost, so that at the end of

1105
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:02.679
the day, President Trump is aware of the cost of things,

1106
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:06.760
and you know, he doesn't want to look weak on

1107
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:12.239
the world stage. And I can easily see a situation

1108
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:18.039
happening where, uh, you know, he goes to Putin and says, hey, uh,

1109
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.480
we want peace, and Putin says no, And the next

1110
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:25.199
thing he does is go, Okay, you don't get to

1111
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.320
embarrass me, and he opens up his checkbook in Ukraine

1112
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:29.119
gets whatever they want.

1113
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:30.880
Yeah, I can see that.

1114
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:33.480
I can see that. Yeah, I can see that.

1115
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:34.079
I agree with that.

1116
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:36.440
You know, you don't you don't get you don't get

1117
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.360
to say no to me. I gave you a deal.

1118
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.079
You chose not to accept this deal. So now we're

1119
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:42.119
gonna do things a hard way.

1120
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.679
And that that's exactly his personality, that's who he is. Yeah,

1121
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.360
you know you're not gonna tell him no. He's like no, no, no, no,

1122
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:50.920
this is what's gonna happen. I absolutely agree with that.

1123
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.239
So that was a lot a lot going on in

1124
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.119
the world that you kind of, you know, shed a

1125
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.760
little light on. Uh, let's let's let's dive into another

1126
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.320
topic that I know you talked about before and I've

1127
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.239
been interested in lately just just in my talking to

1128
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.280
more people. But let's talk about ocent like open source intelligence.

1129
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:11.119
What really is it?

1130
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:13.440
Because a lot of people can always say that anyone

1131
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:15.760
could read the news and you know, take multiple sources

1132
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.239
and glean the information and try to, you know, put

1133
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:20.119
two and two together make their own assessments. But what

1134
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.960
separates people like you, for example, and others in your

1135
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.599
field from just the average individual or you know, the

1136
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:29.159
normal guy like me, for example.

1137
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.480
So honestly, I don't want to say not much, but

1138
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:37.960
a lot of It's just it's attention to detail. So

1139
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.079
when it comes to things like open source intelligence, you

1140
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:48.519
are using available open sources to figure out who is

1141
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:51.199
doing what and why. So let's say you want to

1142
01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.840
know how large the Russian army is. There's a couple

1143
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.119
of ways you can do it. One way is to

1144
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.119
go to the Russian army and ask how big are you?

1145
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.199
I'll tell you the truth. Maybe they want right. Nothing

1146
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:08.360
you do is have some spy tell you, hey, we're

1147
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:12.440
recruiting this many people this year. Maybe that's reliable, maybe

1148
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.800
it isn't. But if you know that every Russian recruit

1149
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.159
gets two pairs of boots when they enlist, and Russia

1150
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:23.480
just put out a contract for twenty two hundred thousand boots,

1151
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.239
then you know that Russia is bringing on one hundred

1152
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:30.119
thousand people this year. Right, And so you have these

1153
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.360
little sources all over the place, you can kind of

1154
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.280
grab that information and you can extrapolate from there. Like

1155
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:40.599
people had said that we don't really know the population

1156
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.079
of Russia, the population of Russia is actually half of

1157
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.920
what Russia claims it is, all right, maybe that's true,

1158
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:47.920
maybe it's not. You know how I figure that out?

1159
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:51.400
See how many how many grocery stores do you need

1160
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:56.079
per square mile to feed x amount of people? Right?

1161
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:01.360
Because Russia, well they're not a democracy necessary they are capitalists,

1162
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.440
and that means, you know, if there is a need

1163
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.880
to open a grocery store to serve a population, someone

1164
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.039
will do that. Someone will get the funding, they will

1165
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.840
open a grocery store. Well, one thing we could do,

1166
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.479
we really want to find out the population of Russia.

1167
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:21.640
Let's call let's let's count all the grocery stores in Russia. Yeah,

1168
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.159
you know, if we know that one grocery store can

1169
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.520
serve ten thousand people, how many grocery stores are there? Okay,

1170
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:32.560
now we know the population, all right. So that's that's

1171
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:34.880
kind of another way of doing it. It's it's gathering

1172
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:39.159
this information by using open sources that can reveal all

1173
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:41.079
sorts of things you wouldn't normally expect.

1174
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:43.600
It's really paying attention, like you said, pay attention to

1175
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.079
the details and willing to dive deeper, not just saying, hey,

1176
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.159
I got three sources and now I have a conclusion.

1177
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:50.880
You know, and I think one of the regions that

1178
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:54.960
I've done fairly okay in this field is that I

1179
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:58.119
was a software engineer and one of my specialties was

1180
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.479
finding and fixing bugs. So a lot of that takes

1181
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:07.399
persistence out it. You know, you have to to dig,

1182
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:10.159
and you might dig and dig and dig for weeks.

1183
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.479
You not weeks? Here did it take in weeks? It's

1184
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:17.439
probably too much time, but for days trying to find

1185
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:20.199
the source of a bug, right all right? Where did this?

1186
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.439
Where did this bug come from? And you dig and

1187
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:24.279
you dig, and you dig and you dig, and I

1188
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.199
think kind of that level of persistence has helped me

1189
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:28.279
out quite a bit.

1190
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:31.119
Gotcha, Yeah, And that makes it makes a lot of sense.

1191
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.439
I just I have a I have a fear that

1192
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:38.479
too many people trust those who say that you know,

1193
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:44.720
they're offering offerings, offering their opinions or else's you know,

1194
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.039
call themselves. Some people that are just doing nothing but

1195
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:48.520
regurgitating headlines.

1196
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.039
And I've seen you're regurgitating what you found on telegram.

1197
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.600
That's probably not the best way of doing it. But

1198
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.279
you know what you could do is you could take

1199
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.399
a look at something on telegram and say, okay, does

1200
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:02.359
this make sense from a tactical perspective.

1201
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:04.479
Yeah, no, And that's what I was gonna ask you.

1202
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:08.399
Ryan's how does someone how does someone how's someone able

1203
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:12.640
to know they can trust that particular source, for example,

1204
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:15.640
like that ocent person who's claiming to you, I'm I'm

1205
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.159
the guy, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna explain everything. I'm

1206
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.560
gonna break it down for you. I have the answer,

1207
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.520
how do we know we can trust that person? For example?

1208
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:24.920
What's the best way to.

1209
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.680
See if they're right? You know, you look at their score?

1210
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.960
What is their score of being right to being wrong?

1211
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:34.680
Yeah, okay, simple befairs.

1212
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:36.800
Proof is in the pudding there, right.

1213
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:38.880
You know, we're you talk about how we verify O

1214
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:40.960
some people, it's like, yeah, proof in the pudding. You

1215
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:42.399
know how often they're right?

1216
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:42.800
All that?

1217
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.640
And uh, yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with you. I

1218
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:52.000
just I just see too many people cinging on to disinformation.

1219
01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:54.359
Would I say, clean the surface of information? They just

1220
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:56.800
believe the headline or whatever and whatever's recurd you to

1221
01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.520
and say, Okay, that guy's correct. Here it is and

1222
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.720
that's why I'm believe and that's it. And that's as

1223
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.079
far as I'm gonna go, and then tend to criticize

1224
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.600
others who dig deeper, and somehow call people like you

1225
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.840
or me conspiracy theorists for just asking questions and going

1226
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:11.399
a little further.

1227
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.039
I don't think I've ever been called a conspiracy theorist.

1228
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:18.000
I've been called a CIA shell and I've been called

1229
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.079
I don't I don't know what I'm talking about, and

1230
01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:25.159
somehow both of those things at the same time. You know, like,

1231
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:27.960
all right, either I'm a CIA show or I don't

1232
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.520
know what I'm talking about, which is crazy.

1233
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.079
Give me what is given your background, which you can

1234
01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:35.479
actually verify. It's like, why why would people jump to

1235
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.079
that conclusion about you? You know, it doesn't make sense.

1236
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.039
Well, I think for for a lot of people. So

1237
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:45.359
some people are bots, right, yeah, some people, you know

1238
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:50.520
they look if you're if you're the kind of guy

1239
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.880
who is you get up every day, you go to

1240
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.119
a job that you hate, you uh, work all day,

1241
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:03.640
you come home. You know, it's it's kind of a

1242
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:09.479
conspiracy theory that lays it all out right, this is

1243
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:12.520
why things are the way they are. And you it's

1244
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:16.439
almost like you you want to believe, right, Yeah, you

1245
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:21.560
want to believe that this is true because you know

1246
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:26.239
it's it's it's like imagine like Harry Potter, Like, why

1247
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:31.319
was Harry Potter so popular? Well, you look at Harry Potter,

1248
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:35.880
Who's who's Harry Potter's target audience. It's it's kids, it's teenage,

1249
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.560
you know, young early teens something like that, right, or

1250
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.720
these days adults people who grow up on it out.

1251
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.680
But when you're a child, you don't have any agency.

1252
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.159
You don't even get to decide what you put in

1253
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:52.760
your mouth, right, what you eat. So it's a very

1254
01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:58.079
powerful fantasy to imagine that you're actually a wizard and

1255
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.479
you know more than the grown ups, you know more

1256
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.359
than the adults, you know the truth about how the

1257
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.600
world really works. And that's why Harry Potter was popular.

1258
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.840
So I think a lot of ways conspiracy areas are

1259
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.800
Harry Potter for adults. All Right, you can have this

1260
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.680
fantasy world that only you know about, only you and

1261
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:19.880
your small groups people know about. I know, the actual truth.

1262
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.079
The woll is being pulled over your eyes, right.

1263
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:24.399
Yeah, that that's that's a that's a good way to

1264
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.039
look at it. It's an interesting take on that.

1265
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.760
And yeah, I think that's kind of the that's kind

1266
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:30.880
of the deal.

1267
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:32.600
But then then you got the you get you got

1268
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.920
the other people who they're not necessarily conspiracorist, but they

1269
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:39.079
question like they don't stop qush, Like there's no end

1270
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:42.720
to to their disbelief. It's like, well you said this,

1271
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:44.760
but what if and then what if that?

1272
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:45.439
What if this?

1273
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:47.479
They just keep going and going and going, And at

1274
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.880
some point it's like, well, where's the baseline for you

1275
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:55.159
to believe anything? You know? And it's so it's like

1276
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:56.520
what do you what do you do with people like

1277
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:00.479
that who have who just don't don't trust anything whatsoever.

1278
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:02.560
So it's like what is their truth based on what

1279
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:03.960
what do they believe is to be true?

1280
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:07.800
At some point, Yeah, that's a good question.

1281
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:10.439
It is is there's no answer. I'm sure, it's just

1282
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:12.359
I just brought i thought i'd bring that up because

1283
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:16.760
I do experience that myself, you know, as as we

1284
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.319
both grow in this space, for example, you know, I'm

1285
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:21.680
starting to get out there more and more, and I'm

1286
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.800
experiencing that more and more with people as well. It's like,

1287
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.439
no matter what answer you give, it's never correct. Great,

1288
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:27.960
And then you got the other side where there's a

1289
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.760
conspiracy theorist who's just like, no, you're wrong because X,

1290
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.279
y Z. But then they can't prove it themselves. And

1291
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:37.439
it's just very interesting to be people on this side

1292
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.640
trying to say, look, this is what I found. And

1293
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:41.199
of course, most way I do Ryan will be honest.

1294
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.439
I give you know, I give opinions and whatnot based

1295
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.760
on data that's available and maybe my own life experiences.

1296
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.039
I'll admit that, but I try to never be the

1297
01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:50.560
guy that's just going to tell the lie for the

1298
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:52.960
sake of telling it. I'm not, you know, if look,

1299
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.840
if it grows, I get clicks and lives good, but

1300
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.399
that's not my focus per se. If I could turn

1301
01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:59.800
the career, fine, it'll get there. But at the same time,

1302
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:03.079
I'm not looking to lie to people, and I don't

1303
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:04.960
think I've seen that from you, either from the videos

1304
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.640
I've seen and from the people I've talked to. It's

1305
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.560
just sad that, you know, there are those that are

1306
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:11.960
just out to attack others for the sake of maybe

1307
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:14.079
just not being happy with their own lives where they're at.

1308
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.560
You know, maybe I'm going a bit far and saying that,

1309
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:18.680
but from what I've seen out there, that seems to

1310
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.800
be the case more often than not. I guess I'll

1311
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:22.439
just leave that there.

1312
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:28.239
I've seen. It's probably one of the most interesting things

1313
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:34.159
I've seen, is like people who who believe in UFOs.

1314
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:39.319
I did a whole video about how you know, if

1315
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:44.159
if if UFOs were real, like genuinely honest to God

1316
01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:49.439
reeling aliens and come to the earth, would be dead. Yeah,

1317
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:54.600
it would be dead because the most logical likely thing

1318
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:58.079
to do would be to kill us. And in fact,

1319
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:02.079
I've even said this before, which was like, hey, if

1320
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:07.279
you are, if you if we ever come upon some

1321
01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:12.920
kind of alien species, we need to kill them. You

1322
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.840
know that that might seem like a little extreme, right,

1323
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:20.359
But you know, I don't.

1324
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.279
Think it's extreme. It's it's it's referring to nature, I think,

1325
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:26.880
in and of itself. You know UFOs. Let's let's say aliens,

1326
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:31.479
you know nature part of nature. You know, nature wants

1327
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:37.239
to basically, organisms want to live, and what they want

1328
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:38.840
to do is they want to conquer their environments and

1329
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.479
be you know, the apex predator or the apex species.

1330
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.720
And so I don't think you're wrong in that. I

1331
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.680
mean that that that's a great take because that that

1332
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.760
very well could be could be what the situation would

1333
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.439
be everybody wants to be neither believed. They're just like basically,

1334
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:53.560
these angels, the benevolent beings, were just looking at it

1335
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.840
out for us, trying to guide us in the right direction.

1336
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.520
But yeah, I'm I mean, if if someone's going to

1337
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:01.960
make their way all the way over here, why would

1338
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:04.399
they do that for what resources? If there's resources, they're

1339
01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.119
going to want to take those, and who's in the

1340
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.399
way of that It would be us. So yeah, maybe

1341
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:10.039
'run something there.

1342
01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:15.039
The resource thing doesn't even make that much sense because no,

1343
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.279
because I did a whole video on this where like

1344
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:23.479
the universe, I actually scaled the universe down to the

1345
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:27.760
size of the United States, Okay, and ameer like like

1346
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:32.079
our our solar system is a grain of sand in

1347
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.680
the Wendy's parking lot of Biloxi, Mississippi. We take the

1348
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.960
gy our galaxy, our whole galaxy, the center of the

1349
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:42.479
galaxy is like in somewhere like odin Kansas or something,

1350
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:48.680
and then our actual solar system is three fifths of

1351
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:53.399
a grain of sand in the Wendy's parking lot in Biloxi, Mississippi. Yeah,

1352
01:17:54.279 --> 01:18:01.720
and so any any any group of of aliens that

1353
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.399
wants us for our resources. Well, shoot, if you can

1354
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:09.640
get across the universe, across the galaxy, you can probably

1355
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:12.239
have the tech to make your own resources, right, you

1356
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:16.079
don't need ours, You can make your own stuff. Now,

1357
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:20.680
who'd people come for exploration just to say? All right, like, hey,

1358
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.439
there's this is crazy, dude, there's a bunch of monkeys

1359
01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:25.600
with nuclear weapons.

1360
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:29.640
You can chuck these guys out. Let's fascinated. Let's see

1361
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:33.960
these monkeys with freaking nuclear weapons. We might you know,

1362
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:37.239
you might do that, but but how does that get funded?

1363
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:41.319
Yeah? Like, why why did we colonize the New World? Well,

1364
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.319
initially we're looking for a path to send spices, you know,

1365
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:50.039
go get spices from India? Right, seriously, Right, it was

1366
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.720
a financial There was a financial benefit to go on

1367
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:56.279
and getting spices from India. What's the financial benefit for

1368
01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:57.279
coming to Earth?

1369
01:18:57.399 --> 01:18:59.880
Well? And but that's that's assuming that if there were aliens,

1370
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:04.840
that their system is based on monetary values and gains, Like,

1371
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:08.439
we don't know that, but I do agree the set

1372
01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.720
of one right we're dealing with. I'm gonna agree with

1373
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.159
you on this is here's why I would agree. Why

1374
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.960
would they go all this way to see us? Why

1375
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:21.560
us and why us right that that that's that's the

1376
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:23.520
that's the piece of puzzle that was never that can

1377
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.760
never be explained. Why are we so important? Why would

1378
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:27.199
they be here?

1379
01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:28.479
I don't know.

1380
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.520
I'm not I'm I'm not too into that side of it.

1381
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:33.399
You know, I'm not gonna die. I don't know, UFO

1382
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:38.720
expert or you know whatever. It's almost like, you know,

1383
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.640
bringing up the topic of Bigfoot. Whatever is there possibility? Sure,

1384
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:46.199
anything could be possible. But I mean, after all these years,

1385
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.159
I mean, can you believe that our government is that

1386
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:53.800
good in hiding or keeping the lid on something that long? Maybe?

1387
01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:57.439
I don't know. I mean, like I said, I I

1388
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.520
believe we would be dead. Y if they were genuine,

1389
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:04.479
honest to God aliens, we would be we would be dead.

1390
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:08.039
It would make the most sense to kill us before

1391
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.720
we could present a threat to the galaxy. And that

1392
01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.800
that might be a universal that might be a universal

1393
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:23.680
feeling or a universal trait among all living creatures, because

1394
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:30.680
you know, all living creatures, they they they do two things.

1395
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:37.359
They acquire energy, and they also they they acquire energy

1396
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:42.640
and they reproduce three things. They acquire energy, they reproduce.

1397
01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.760
I've got this is a Spanish inquisition, right, three things,

1398
01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:50.720
They acquire, energy, they reproduce, and they defend themselves. Yeah,

1399
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:54.600
and you know, I can tell you this, if every

1400
01:20:54.680 --> 01:21:00.199
single Native American murdered every single freaking dude coming off

1401
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.800
a boat from Spain back in the fifteen hundreds, like

1402
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.000
there wouldn't have been fourteen fourteen hundreds. Back in the

1403
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:12.439
fourteen hundreds, there wouldn't have been. Things would have worked

1404
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.319
out a lot differently, right they said, you know, these

1405
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:17.720
people coming out were just going to kill them. They

1406
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:19.600
would have sent more boats. They would have killed those

1407
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:23.159
people too, right, And I think things would have looked

1408
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:27.760
a lot different. Now you're getting colonized on your own terms,

1409
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.159
or you're coming into the modern age on your own terms,

1410
01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:34.560
as opposed to on the on the terms of these

1411
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:38.640
invaders just being calmed. So it, Yeah, it would make

1412
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:44.399
more sense to if you come upon a species, to

1413
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.800
wipe them out before they get a chance to do

1414
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.880
that to you. That's most likely what they you know,

1415
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:56.039
because because by the time, look, distances are so far yeah, right,

1416
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.640
And it's easy to say, oh, well, warp drives. Well,

1417
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.399
I mean I can't work with that, right like I

1418
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:05.399
but I can work with, Like if you know, one

1419
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:07.560
of the things that I that I talked about is

1420
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:12.119
that we can use best spectropathy to see to figure

1421
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:17.159
out what's coming out of a planet. Right, we point

1422
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.319
a device at a planet and when a star train

1423
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:23.720
that planet transits, a star light shines through the atmosphere

1424
01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:28.399
that planet. And if we found oxygen on that planet,

1425
01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:31.319
one of the first things we would go is, hold up,

1426
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.760
what the heck's making this oxygen? Because oxygen is super reacting.

1427
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:39.479
If plants, if all the plants died tomorrow, it would

1428
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:42.560
take about six thousand years for all the oxygen on

1429
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:46.760
our planet to essentially react with other things and become

1430
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:50.359
rust Right, they take about six thousand years for no

1431
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:54.720
oxygen to be on this planet, so five six thousand years.

1432
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:59.199
So if we ever saw a planet that was making oxygen,

1433
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:03.520
the next question is what the heck's make all this oxygen? Yeah,

1434
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.720
that's something we might want to go check out, but

1435
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:08.479
whether we have the actual ability to do it is

1436
01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.680
another story. And the funding for something like that, And

1437
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:13.640
you could say, oh, and if there's a hive mind

1438
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.159
and they don't believe in money, well that's in a

1439
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:18.720
way that's even worse because if it's a freaking hive mind,

1440
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.119
that hive mind is probably going to decide we need

1441
01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:24.640
to kill these people before they can kill us. It's

1442
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:28.960
like the dark Forest right during that that the threebody problem. Yeah,

1443
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:32.920
I saw a little bit of freebody problem. We read

1444
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:37.520
the books, watch the Netflix series. It makes absolute sense

1445
01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.119
for the aliens to come to Earth and murder all

1446
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:44.000
of us and take over the planets makes the most sense.

1447
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:48.079
So kind of on that vein circling back to Earth.

1448
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:51.319
As of now, it kind of died down a bit,

1449
01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:55.640
and I don't know whatever happened. What I saw your

1450
01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:57.720
video on your take on what was going on with

1451
01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:00.800
those those drones in the East Coast, New Jersey. Do

1452
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:03.359
you have any more you know now time has pass

1453
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.640
to add to that and what your thoughts were because

1454
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:08.319
you did work in that industry for a while as well.

1455
01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:13.000
Yeah, I mean, my my basic conclusion was that this

1456
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:20.039
was most likely a Red Team event where you're ever

1457
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:25.640
watch Seal Team six Richard Marshenko Red Snell. Yeah, and

1458
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:30.560
Richard Marshenko he had the foresight to like, all right,

1459
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.680
let's think like a terrorist, let's create a team. Well

1460
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.920
he called it Seal Team six. To make everybody believe that,

1461
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:42.239
like there were like five other seal teams, right, so

1462
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:46.319
Seal Team six, you know, they would try to take

1463
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.239
these you know, let's let's try to penetrate this naval base,

1464
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:52.159
see what their defenses are like. And they tell the commander, right,

1465
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.000
this exercise is going on, but they wouldn't necessarily tell

1466
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:58.279
anybody else. So I can easily see a situation where

1467
01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:01.359
someone is red teaming and and the base commander knows it,

1468
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.439
maybe the deputy commander knows that. A couple other people

1469
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.560
might know. They can't say anything because then it would

1470
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:10.119
violate the principles of the exercise, right, you have to

1471
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:14.720
see what people are actually going to do here, So yeah,

1472
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:17.439
I could I think that most likely those drones in

1473
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:20.520
New Jersey, maybe they had a red teaming event and

1474
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:25.039
then everything became drones, like they were seeing helicopters.

1475
01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:27.319
Find Oh yeah, they saw what they wanted to see

1476
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:28.279
at some point, right.

1477
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.479
Yeah, And again it goes back to the whole conspiracy

1478
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:34.039
theory thing of like, well I know the truth I

1479
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:39.039
know about thrones. Here's a real story. And you know

1480
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.079
that was another thing that people said, Oh they're looking

1481
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:46.399
for they're looking for a nuclear device. Yeah, stolen from Ukraine. Like, dude,

1482
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:49.640
any newglar device that was stolen from Ukraine in nineteen

1483
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:53.800
ninety four, You know that thing has gone through multiple

1484
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:59.840
tritium cycles. That thing has the plutonium degrades over time,

1485
01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:04.600
where like you know, plutonium decays is a naturally decaying

1486
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:08.000
radioactive isotope, and so you have these little pockets of

1487
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.520
helium inside the plutonium. That's why you periodically have to

1488
01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:14.479
re manufacture the plutonium and get all those those helium

1489
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:21.640
bubbles out. The explosives that surround the pit those decay

1490
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:25.720
or those have to be maintained. The batteries have to

1491
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:27.840
be changed. And you could say, oh, what if they

1492
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.800
took it to a Soviet scientist and they're former Soviet scientists, Like, look, dude,

1493
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.359
my kid would have to be really freaking sick to

1494
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:42.279
take money to go work on a nuclear device, because

1495
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:43.159
they will find you.

1496
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:49.319
Right Like, they will find you, like we found the

1497
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:55.119
dude who shot the CEO from from United Healthcare super quick.

1498
01:26:55.439 --> 01:27:03.199
Like if that dude went and shot like some random stranger, No, oh,

1499
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:05.359
that's New York. You know what do you want? You know,

1500
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:09.479
it's Bryce living in New York. Right, you go shoot

1501
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:14.479
the CEO of the healthcare company. We'll find you. Right. So,

1502
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:18.760
if you're a scientist who's try who use the tools

1503
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:21.800
and materials, plus like the tools and materials to make

1504
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:25.760
this stuff re manufactured stuff, they're not exactly available in

1505
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:28.560
the open market, right, You're not going you're not going

1506
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:29.960
to home depot and picking this stuff up.

1507
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:30.880
Oh hell yeah.

1508
01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:34.119
So there was that, and there was also the fact

1509
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:37.359
that physics is physics, Like, as you get from the

1510
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.680
inverse square law, double the distance, the radiation goes down

1511
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:42.680
by half. So if you're looking for something on a

1512
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.880
drone trying to use the detector, looking for a radioactive

1513
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.199
looking for radiation, uh, you're gonna have to be pretty

1514
01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:54.760
darn close to that source because the further you are

1515
01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.520
up in the air, the more that radiation spreads out

1516
01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:02.039
and the less likely order to detect that. Now a

1517
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:05.680
lot of these weapons are shielded because you don't want

1518
01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:08.479
the people handling these weapons to get sick, exactly right,

1519
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:10.680
So there is shielding in there. And even if it

1520
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:16.359
was unshielded, like, dude, the fastest way to find that weapon,

1521
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:18.720
if it was unshielded, would be to put police officers

1522
01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:21.319
at all the hospitals because sooner or later, some dude's

1523
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:23.159
going to come out with radiation sickness and the doctors

1524
01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:25.399
might not even know what the hell it is. Why

1525
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.800
is this dude sick like this? Because how many doctors

1526
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:29.159
have seen radiation sickness?

1527
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:29.479
Right?

1528
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.720
Feel like someone presenting with you know, there there's a

1529
01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:37.479
term in medicine horses not zebras, when someone shows up

1530
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.880
with the condition. You you know, if you're in America

1531
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:42.880
and you hear hoof beats behind you, or you're going

1532
01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:44.319
to think it's a horse, or you're going to think

1533
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:47.079
it's a zebra. Right, probably I think it's a horse.

1534
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.279
You know, if some dude presents with radiation sickness, you

1535
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.199
might not even recognize that. You might say, oh, this guy,

1536
01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:56.760
you know, that's why you ask questions, have you traveled

1537
01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.560
outside the country? Have you done this? Have you done that?

1538
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:01.560
They're narrowing it down their head with this problem could

1539
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:07.600
be right, So, yeah, there was that, and the other

1540
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.359
thing was someone else and this this happened at a

1541
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:17.760
bad time. Someone claimed that a radioactive pin source was stolen,

1542
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.680
and a pin source, it's like that, it's a little

1543
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.039
thing that you used to calibrate hospital equipment. You know,

1544
01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.640
so if you're doing like barium treatments, right, and there's

1545
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:30.800
a radioactive detector that looks at the barium going through

1546
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:33.840
your system, you'd use a radioactive pin source on that

1547
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.520
thing to make sure. Okay, yeah, this thing is reading correctly,

1548
01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:41.079
let's go to the Now. Apparently a radioactive pin source

1549
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:45.439
that I guess was headed toward disposal got lost, and

1550
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:48.159
now it's oh, they're looking for this thing. Could this

1551
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:50.039
be used in a dirty bomb? Like, dude, it's a

1552
01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:55.159
pin source, don't eat it. It's fine, I could have

1553
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:59.239
it right here, fine, right, Like it's not like that's funny.

1554
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:01.960
But you know, some of that goes back to like,

1555
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:05.520
oh my god, radiation, Like people are afraid of radiation.

1556
01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.159
You shouldn't be. If you're afraid of radiation, don't fly anywhere.

1557
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:15.960
Pilots get juiced up, Like if the average pilot, I

1558
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:22.119
think the average average rat worker, I think they're allowed

1559
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:29.560
five ren a year, all right, And pilots like getting

1560
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:33.159
a chest X ray, Yeah, I think that's like, uh,

1561
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:37.000
it's five thousand mili ren for a chest X ray, right,

1562
01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:41.000
So if you get like twenty five chest X rays

1563
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:44.399
it's the math wrong there. But if you get a

1564
01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:46.359
certain amount of chest X rays like that would be

1565
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:48.760
you wouldn't be able to work on a nuclear plant, gotcha.

1566
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:50.920
Yeah, So the.

1567
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:53.920
Pilots due just because they're flying, you know, in the

1568
01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:57.159
atmosphere and there there's less atmosphere up there, and they're

1569
01:30:57.159 --> 01:30:59.399
getting hit with X rays and they're getting hit stuff

1570
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:03.039
from space. You know, they get they get juiced up.

1571
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:06.359
I'm actually surprised pilots don't have to carry dose simitters.

1572
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:08.960
See how much dose they're getting. They get more radiation

1573
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:11.119
than the nuclear worker pilots.

1574
01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:12.039
Center.

1575
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.640
Now, don't lie anywhere, don't have granite countertops in your home.

1576
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:16.560
They give off radiation.

1577
01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:17.119
Well, yeah they do.

1578
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.479
Don't eat a banana, yeah, you know, well.

1579
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:23.199
Everything gives off a certain level of radiation.

1580
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:27.199
They have a potassium Oh my god, if you're the

1581
01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:32.720
darn isotope. But yeah, bananas are mildly radioactive, just naturally

1582
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:33.680
from the potassium.

1583
01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:39.600
And yeah, what's what's the drum thing? The drum thing?

1584
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.760
I'm with you on this. I don't think it's anything.

1585
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:45.119
I'm not sure it was anything in the fairs. I

1586
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:49.199
I just think it was our government doing testing for

1587
01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:51.399
whatever reasons they needed to testing, you know, the people

1588
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:53.840
wanted to see what they wanted to see. Eventually just

1589
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:57.479
got out of control. What let's let's tie this back

1590
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:02.560
to Matthew Laviisberger. His that the alleged communication, which some

1591
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:04.640
people say was true, some don't. You're still digging into

1592
01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:09.000
that yourself. So what about those claims in that letter

1593
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:13.239
about these being some advanced propulsion technology that are Chinese,

1594
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:17.039
you know, off being launched from a submarine in the Atlantic.

1595
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:18.840
What do you think all that?

1596
01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:28.479
So the question is like in typically in the intelligence world,

1597
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:32.399
if you have a security clearance, you only get access

1598
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:38.319
to stuff that you need to know about, right your job. Compartmentalization, environmentalization,

1599
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.239
I mean the the s c I and t S

1600
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:46.119
s c I means top secret, sensitive compartmentalized information. So

1601
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:50.640
if I'm finding bad guys in the hornet of Africa,

1602
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:55.359
I don't know anything about drug cartels in Mexico. Okay,

1603
01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.079
that's just not I don't need to know that. I'm

1604
01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:00.439
not going to access that information. I want to know

1605
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:04.119
about it. So if you're a Special Forces dude, the

1606
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.119
email is kind of weird because he's talking about Afghanistan

1607
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:11.960
and he's talking about Chinese boats and launching drones. And

1608
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.039
you know I've said this before, like if there was

1609
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:17.600
a Chinese submarine launching drones, the Coast Guard would be

1610
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:22.000
all over that. All over they love like they love

1611
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.399
finding Narco submarines. This would be a feather in their

1612
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.600
cap that never have to buy a drink again, right right,

1613
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:31.920
And and there was other weird stuff like it can

1614
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:36.000
have like infinite carrying capacity like no, I can't dude,

1615
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:41.000
like lift thrust weight and drag dud same that. So

1616
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:45.520
you know, again you kind of have to go with

1617
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:51.399
most likely. And you know it is not very likely

1618
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:56.159
that someone who was in Germany doing Special Forces stuff

1619
01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:00.479
would have any knowledge of especially in E eight. You know,

1620
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:04.079
if you're a if you're an E eight, a master

1621
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:10.439
sergeant in the army, even in special Forces, you're a hitter,

1622
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:13.640
you're a door kicker. You're a really good door kicker.

1623
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:17.279
You might work with the targeting cell once in a while,

1624
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:20.279
you know, to get experience on something, or because they

1625
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.319
need bodies, or because it generally affects the outcome of

1626
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:26.880
an operation. But you're not dealing with Chinese submarines. It's

1627
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:28.439
not really an Army.

1628
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:33.239
Right right, it's unlikely you come across that intel, correct.

1629
01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.920
Yeah, that would be that would be somewhat difficult to

1630
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.399
come across that information. So you know, it's it's uh,

1631
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:43.760
it's one of those things that that that kind of

1632
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:46.199
activates like this smells.

1633
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:50.479
Funny, gotcha. Yeah, And this is the idea of you know,

1634
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:55.479
anybody getting that close to our coastline, like within that

1635
01:34:56.199 --> 01:34:59.720
that distance, how we would not detect that. I kind

1636
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:02.439
of yeah, I find it hard to believe personally.

1637
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:06.720
Yeah, I know that we had a network or probably

1638
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.600
still have a network called soosis, which are underground sensors

1639
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:14.720
that go between the g I UK gap Greenland, Iceland,

1640
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.600
United Kingdom that gap, so we can detect any Russian

1641
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:23.000
submarines coming out of their bastions, which they rarely ever

1642
01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:26.199
do anyway, Russian submarines essentially never leave the Kerosee. It

1643
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.760
was a big deal when Russian submarines went down to

1644
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:33.840
one Russian submarine went down to Cuba for training exercise.

1645
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:36.199
Like I'm sure the guys in N. A. S. Jacksonville

1646
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:40.279
are having a hell of a time using their their

1647
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.119
using their oh my god, their pa Poseidon's you know,

1648
01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:49.239
tracking the submarine. I'm sure they I'm sure they had

1649
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:52.239
a party, you know, getting all sorts of date on

1650
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:57.800
this submarine as it traveled. I tend to stay away

1651
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.640
from naval topics because I just don't know as much

1652
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:02.760
about them. But I'm sure we have some sort of

1653
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:07.119
underground network that detect submarines, or at least could detect

1654
01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:09.880
certain kinds of contacts, and we send something to investigate.

1655
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.720
So the the odds of a Chinese submarine sitting off

1656
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:16.960
the East coast is near zero.

1657
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:20.359
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I find it

1658
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:23.760
a little hard to believe that we wouldn't know, we

1659
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:24.239
would know.

1660
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.199
It's not let me put that different way. The odds

1661
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:32.520
of Chinese submarine sitting off the East coast is a

1662
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.239
roughly even chance. It is likely that China has the

1663
01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:41.600
capability to do that, and it is open, what do

1664
01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:44.079
you call it, the international water? You can sail wherever

1665
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:46.680
you want. You want to park a Chinese submarine the

1666
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:50.000
international water. It's knock yourself on, all right, yeah, sure

1667
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:52.840
do it. Well, we'd love to train against you, you know.

1668
01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:57.119
So it's certainly it's certainly possible that a Chinese submarine

1669
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:00.000
could be there. But we would almost certainly know about it.

1670
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.399
That That's what That's basically was my point I was

1671
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:05.680
trying to make. I guess it was we would have

1672
01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:07.880
known at some point. We would have definitely known it

1673
01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:11.640
was there. It wouldn't have just gone undetected. So and

1674
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.520
again I I'm with you. I I don't know enough

1675
01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.399
about how the Navy works or you know, what they use,

1676
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.880
but I find it highly unlikely that such a well

1677
01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:24.560
funded military such as ours would not have the capability

1678
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.520
to detect a presence out there.

1679
01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:30.800
Oh we would be so, we would be so on that.

1680
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:32.279
Yeah, that's all.

1681
01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:40.199
I We would have so much fun. Seriously, Like it's

1682
01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:43.439
it's such a great training opportunity, right and like you know,

1683
01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:48.079
sometimes like people are getting bored, you know, like why not,

1684
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:52.600
you know, why not use this as a training opportunity.

1685
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:57.319
I mean, they're there right as well, let's take this opportunity. Well,

1686
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:01.359
I'm gonna start wrapping up because I'm sure you're very busy.

1687
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.680
I got a few meetings and really quick though, I'm

1688
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:07.279
gonna ask you what is your go to cigar these days?

1689
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:07.960
What are you into?

1690
01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:13.159
Well? Right now I'm smoking a bone bone shaker, but

1691
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:17.760
I like the Camacho reds. Yeah, yeah, the red Camachas.

1692
01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:23.840
But part of us black label, partake us black labels

1693
01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:29.800
of these little ones, and especially because you know, I like,

1694
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.479
I recognize, like I need to smoke less. Yeah, as

1695
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:38.199
I love smoking, And you know, part of one of

1696
01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:41.880
the nice parts of these is I can write a

1697
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:43.640
lot of time. Like I spent a good portion by

1698
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:47.239
a day writing scripts. So I'll write and I'll smoke

1699
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:52.079
and I don't even notice I'm smoking out and I'll

1700
01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:55.199
just keep going, going and going. So yeah, that's probably

1701
01:38:55.359 --> 01:38:57.359
the part of US black label, which I love. The

1702
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:02.319
tiny ones. I actually can't get them in Maryland anymore because, yeah,

1703
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:07.279
Maryland banned the sale of small cigars. I guess they're

1704
01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:09.760
trying to do it to prevent like the black and

1705
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:15.960
Miles being used as mariandeh, that's ridiculous. But these, since

1706
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.119
these are so small, I guess you know, they fall

1707
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:19.079
under that rule.

1708
01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:20.359
They're not that small.

1709
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:23.279
And I didn't even know it. I tried to order

1710
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:29.359
on and I I was Maryland. Well, thank god, there's

1711
01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:32.439
this girl I know in Virginia Beach and once in

1712
01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:36.239
a while I go down to see her, and uh,

1713
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:37.680
you know, I stay at her place. I was there

1714
01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:40.680
for like two weeks. Actually, it's one of the reasons

1715
01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:42.960
I came back up here. It's kind of overstraining my welcome.

1716
01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:47.039
And it was about the snow, and uh, I was like, shoot,

1717
01:39:47.079 --> 01:39:50.359
I need to I need to leave, but I'll order cigars.

1718
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:52.079
I'll have them sent there, I'll pick them up there.

1719
01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:56.039
I'll order the mini tins there. You know that's that's

1720
01:39:56.119 --> 01:40:00.159
that's something I guess. I was, Uh, yeah, I got us.

1721
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:03.199
And the red camachoson Scheggers are pretty good too. I

1722
01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:03.479
like this.

1723
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:05.760
Yeah, it's it's sad that that that they're trying to

1724
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.239
more and more limit the sales of cigars and the

1725
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:10.239
enjoyment of them is it's I mean, I know we're

1726
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:11.840
going off topic here, but it's like, I don't know

1727
01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:14.560
if you ever listen to Cigar David at all, but

1728
01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:17.439
he has this whole thing he always he always calls

1729
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:20.359
them the pleasure police, you know how they're always going

1730
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:22.039
out of their way to make sure that you know,

1731
01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:25.640
they're just taking these little, little, little, you know, little

1732
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:28.640
pieces of enjoyment away from us. And it's not like

1733
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:31.880
they're harming anyone except you know, maybe maybe ourselves. If that,

1734
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:35.119
but yeah, I'm kind of like, uh, I've been going

1735
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.439
I've been more and more into the ole mech lately

1736
01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.760
by Foundation cigars, So I've been going that direction a

1737
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:42.199
lot more. And of course I've always always enjoyed a padrone,

1738
01:40:42.239 --> 01:40:46.960
but not always affordable. But but yeah, I've been big

1739
01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:50.680
on the olmecs. Before we sign off, though, I know

1740
01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:52.520
you have a book, So let's let's talk about your book.

1741
01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:54.680
Let's tell people how they can get you know, seriously,

1742
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:56.680
you know, go ahead, pitch your stuff. Why not?

1743
01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:01.920
You're here, you know, Yeah, So I uh so I

1744
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:05.159
a couple of months ago, I guess it was last year,

1745
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.399
someone said, Ryan, you know, you need to write a book,

1746
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.279
and I was like, I don't know how to write

1747
01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:14.880
a book. You know, I'm not a writer. So I

1748
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:19.399
wrote a short story called Warlock, which is about an

1749
01:41:19.479 --> 01:41:22.279
Irish traveler who has like a little bit of magic,

1750
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:24.319
but kind of like magic in the sense of like

1751
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:26.439
he can tell who's in a house before he robs it,

1752
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:28.720
kind of thing like is this a good house to rub?

1753
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:33.199
And after the terrorist sacks nine eleven, the FBI contacts

1754
01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:35.079
him and asks him to help find a song bin Laden,

1755
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:39.479
which he does gotcha? And so I wrote that short

1756
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:42.960
story and sold really well. People actually bought it. I'm like, Okay,

1757
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:46.560
maybe there's something here. So then I started writing a

1758
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:49.800
book called The wind Machine, which was about I should

1759
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.439
have it right here, but I have it over there.

1760
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:53.800
The wind Machine, the candy cane strep thing you can

1761
01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.359
find on Amazon and audible if you're a marine, want

1762
01:41:56.359 --> 01:42:01.079
to listen to it? And I I was thinking, like,

1763
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:03.800
I work in the AI space, at least I used

1764
01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:06.680
to work in the I space. I was like, you know, like,

1765
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:09.520
wouldn't it be neat if there was a guy who

1766
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:13.119
had an AI computer, Like, if you knew there was

1767
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:16.159
going to be a war, you might be able to

1768
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:21.399
buy stocks, right, you know and game the market, right right? Well,

1769
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:24.520
what if there is a guy who found out there

1770
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:28.039
was going to be a nuclear war between the US

1771
01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:32.119
and China? Would you game? Would you try to put

1772
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:35.439
the limited nuclear exchange limited nuclear exchange in the US

1773
01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:38.359
and China? Would you try to make money off it?

1774
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:42.520
Or would you try to warn the government? And then

1775
01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.039
that kind of gets into all, right, well, how do

1776
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:48.239
you warn the government. There's no hotline? You can call

1777
01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:51.439
it the Pentagon, right, And plus if you do tell

1778
01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:53.960
the Pentagon, hey, I have a supercomputer that picked stocks

1779
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.680
almost perfectly. You do tell the government that the next

1780
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:01.079
person you speak to is the SEC Security Exchange Commission,

1781
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.720
who will then put you out of business because you

1782
01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:08.279
have a you know, an unfair advantage. So now what

1783
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:10.560
do you do? That's kind of the question of the novel.

1784
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:14.119
It's it's essentially the responsible use of AI. Like the

1785
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:18.039
plot is about the plot is essentially what if doctor

1786
01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:23.680
Strange ran a hedge fund? But the theme is the

1787
01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:29.079
responsible use of AI. And uh so it's crazy, is uh?

1788
01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:29.439
You know?

1789
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:33.920
People love the book and I actually I ran my

1790
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.359
book through AI and what I found was like eighty

1791
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:43.319
percent of the book is meetings, meetings, meetings, like like

1792
01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:46.560
literally like people in a conference room having a meeting.

1793
01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:50.159
Like I somehow like I made a book about meetings,

1794
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.920
and it's exciting. That's funny, you know, like people love it,

1795
01:43:54.279 --> 01:43:59.840
like of a meeting, but people like, they freaking love

1796
01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:03.479
the book and they I've had people say it's Ryan

1797
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.000
is the new Tom Clancy. Ryan. I have one guy's

1798
01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:07.520
na Ryan is better than Clancy.

1799
01:44:08.199 --> 01:44:08.399
Wow?

1800
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:15.920
And uh, in no way, uh, in no way disparaging.

1801
01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:19.399
Jack Carr but you read something like the Terminal List.

1802
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:23.680
It's about like special Forces, and everybody in the Terminal

1803
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:26.680
List is good at their jobs, like the best. I'm

1804
01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:30.159
the best sniper, I'm the best pilot, I'm a cross fitter,

1805
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:33.479
and I'm a whatever, you know, like I'm the best

1806
01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:38.840
whatever ever brother. And then yeah, and now it's like

1807
01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:44.039
it's the fifth book and freaking and now, uh god,

1808
01:44:44.119 --> 01:44:47.479
what's his name? Kyle Reese. It's like the fifth book

1809
01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:49.640
and Kyle Reese is thought that dude would be dead,

1810
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:52.640
and I know what, I know what Jack Carr is doing.

1811
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:55.760
He he likes James Bond, and he's like, I need

1812
01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:59.439
James Bond, right, James Bond can't die. And that's the

1813
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:04.439
interesting thing about these books is that is it's that

1814
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.560
you're what you know, Kyle Reese is going to be

1815
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:10.199
fine at the end. So now in the beginning book,

1816
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:11.640
you didn't know that you thought he had a brain

1817
01:45:11.720 --> 01:45:11.960
to him.

1818
01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:13.960
It's all about the journey, right, It's.

1819
01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:17.960
All about the journey. Yeah, tro what I wanted to

1820
01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:22.640
do was a book a perfectly normal dude. Run Ahead's

1821
01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:26.399
fun was in the army, but he's not like you know,

1822
01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:30.079
he was in the Army thirty years ago. Right, Yeah,

1823
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:36.239
he's not some special forces dude. He doesn't know anything anymore.

1824
01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:40.520
He was a finance officer, right, didn't do a damn thing.

1825
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:45.239
But he's thrust into this situation. He's thinking, like, you know,

1826
01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:50.159
I was in Afghanistan. It sucked to see people fall

1827
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:53.000
off the plaine in Afghanistan. What if we could give

1828
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:55.520
this information to the government, we could stop this war

1829
01:45:56.560 --> 01:46:01.680
or prevent it or win it. And then the scary

1830
01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:04.000
thing becomes like, if you had a machine that could

1831
01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:10.159
win wars, what's stopping you from starting a war? Right?

1832
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:15.640
Just guaranteed to win? Right? So yeah, that was kind

1833
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:17.560
of the path that I took with that book. And

1834
01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:20.119
people seem to freaking love it. So yeah, it's on Amazon,

1835
01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:23.840
wind Machine, paperback, and Kindle and on audible.

1836
01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:25.760
And then can they get it from you directly to

1837
01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:26.840
through your website?

1838
01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.199
Oh well it's on I can't get a director from

1839
01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:31.840
me for my website. I do have signed copies available

1840
01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:37.119
at Bunker Branding. I have all my merch I signed

1841
01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:39.399
fifty of them. They sold out in three days. They

1842
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.479
actually sold fifty six. By accident. I have to I

1843
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:44.960
ordered like six more books to be sent to me

1844
01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:47.920
so I could sign them with gotcha, like a special

1845
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:51.000
note for these patient people. Then I've sent a bunker

1846
01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:52.880
branding and I'm going to do another run of fifty

1847
01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:57.119
because fan love them and I'm kind of a I

1848
01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.199
priced everything as low as the other funny thing I

1849
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:02.119
found out, Like I was thinking, like, oh, I'm going

1850
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.199
to price this as low as possible so as many

1851
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:06.439
people want to read it. What I found was that

1852
01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:10.840
like if I do that, like you barely make I

1853
01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:14.159
barely make any money. Like a on a seventeen ninety

1854
01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.920
nine book, I make like four dollars.

1855
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:20.760
Yeah, after like everything, there's not a lot of markup

1856
01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:21.720
or margin on these things.

1857
01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:23.840
There's not audio.

1858
01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:26.000
It's a volume game, right Yeah.

1859
01:47:26.119 --> 01:47:32.479
And audiobooks are even worse. Really, however, audiobooks sales are crazy, like.

1860
01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:34.920
Like with.

1861
01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:39.960
Because I guess more people, at least more men, they

1862
01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:44.000
listen to audiobooks than they do reading. And so now

1863
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:47.640
it's like you put out an audiobook, nothing just sits

1864
01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:49.960
there and it makes money. It's not a lot of money,

1865
01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:52.760
but there's a lot of volume. I think.

1866
01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:55.760
I think it's the same reason podcast got so popular.

1867
01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.119
It's just you know, people busy. A lot of people

1868
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:00.760
commute depending on where you live, you know, there's a

1869
01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:01.640
lot of time on the road.

1870
01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:02.199
Uh.

1871
01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:05.560
For example, salespeople, if you work on the trades, you know,

1872
01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:07.640
you're swinging hammers, whatever, if you're if you're if you're

1873
01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:09.760
by yourself as an electrician, whatever, you know, you're what

1874
01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:11.439
you're doing. Just you know, you put your earbuds on

1875
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:13.359
and you just you got something going. You can hear

1876
01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:16.079
a conversation, get some information. I think that's probably what

1877
01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:20.039
attributed you know, what's attributed to the popularity and audiobooks,

1878
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:20.399
for sure.

1879
01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:21.680
I've tried.

1880
01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:25.319
I'm over read, like I like reading the word, I

1881
01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:27.359
like paper I'm one of those people, you know. I

1882
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.199
don't know if I'm just nostalgic, but I can never

1883
01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:32.800
I can never pick up my iPad, for example. I

1884
01:48:33.079 --> 01:48:35.600
tried this, and I'll download some books and I'll try

1885
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.039
to read them, and it just puts me to sleep.

1886
01:48:37.039 --> 01:48:38.880
There's something about me trying to stare at a screen.

1887
01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:41.479
It doesn't have the same feel you know to me.

1888
01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:45.199
Kindle, the Kindle. I buy everything on Kindle now. I

1889
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:47.159
very rarely buy paper books anymore.

1890
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:48.119
You know.

1891
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:49.800
I think what I like about the Kindle is that

1892
01:48:50.319 --> 01:48:52.880
I can switch from because I I do I know,

1893
01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:54.479
I don't look at but I need two hours in

1894
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.960
the treadmill every day, in five miles every day, all right,

1895
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:03.119
some some walking, you know, walk ron walk, and I

1896
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:08.159
typically read while i'm when I'm on the treadmill a

1897
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:10.399
peloton and I have the Kindle lap on it and

1898
01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.319
I can. So people ask me like, how do you

1899
01:49:13.399 --> 01:49:15.960
know so much stuff? Because I don't play video games

1900
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:16.840
and I read all the time.

1901
01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:18.640
Yeah, you're consuming information all the time.

1902
01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.720
Yeah, I'm consuming information like literally all the time. And

1903
01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:25.000
there isn't like a blank spot in my day. There's

1904
01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:27.800
actually there is a video I bought. It's two years ago.

1905
01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:32.760
I bought an Xbox just to do a video about Starfield,

1906
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:35.279
like how to improve the AI in the video game Starfield.

1907
01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:39.840
So on Xbox, I got Starfield, I played Starfield. I

1908
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:42.079
figured out how we could actually improve the AI in

1909
01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.199
Starfield because people were posting about Starfield or the AI

1910
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:48.880
was bad. And I actually released a version of how

1911
01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:51.079
to make Starfield better, how to make the AI better

1912
01:49:51.119 --> 01:49:54.520
and more realistic. And then I found out there's a

1913
01:49:54.600 --> 01:50:00.199
new game called Alien's Dark Descent, and up there I

1914
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:04.279
have a picture of Drake and Vasquez from Aliens. It's

1915
01:50:04.319 --> 01:50:06.880
like a painting that scene when they were with the

1916
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:10.640
smart guns on this ship and Aliens. And I think

1917
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.399
I wanted to become a soldier because of that movie Aliens.

1918
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:15.479
I wanted to become a heavy weapons guy, machine gun.

1919
01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.399
I'm a big fan of that Alien saga personally.

1920
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:22.479
Yeah, And like that video game is available, I'm like,

1921
01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:26.560
I want to play that, But I'm also like, with

1922
01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:27.359
what time?

1923
01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:30.960
So that's my That's been my thing with video games.

1924
01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:32.960
I'm not a post to them. I just I get

1925
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:37.000
bored after a while. Like I'm very I've always in

1926
01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:38.319
my mind, I got shit to do. I got there's

1927
01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:41.640
other things, you know. Maybe I haven't a tension deficit thing.

1928
01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.880
I have no idea, but I want to move on.

1929
01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.039
After a while, I'm like, Okay, I've done this, What's next?

1930
01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:48.640
You know? I can't I can't sit there for that long.

1931
01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:51.279
But I like it when I'm playing them. I I

1932
01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:53.279
don't do it anymore. I mean, I have an old

1933
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:56.159
Xbox three sixty that's I can't even use any more anyway,

1934
01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:58.239
It's up in the closet. I don't even use it.

1935
01:50:58.239 --> 01:50:59.720
Me and my brother and my nephew, they are big

1936
01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:03.399
on them, but I just can't. For some reason, I

1937
01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:03.840
just can't.

1938
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:08.960
I mean it's you know, it's yeah, I don't begarudge

1939
01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:12.520
anybody who who likes to play video games. No, no,

1940
01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:16.960
me neither. Yeah, there is there is a consequence because

1941
01:51:17.079 --> 01:51:20.399
like if you I've said this to people before, people,

1942
01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:23.840
how could I do what you do? Well, stop playing

1943
01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:26.680
video games and start reading books. I need to read

1944
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:31.119
books about every single subject because, like I've there there

1945
01:51:31.159 --> 01:51:33.760
are times when I've like someone has said something and went,

1946
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:36.199
wait a minute, that isn't correct. I remember the book

1947
01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:40.199
I read it from, Like I go make a video like, no,

1948
01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:43.960
this person's wrong, that's not because I read this thing

1949
01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:45.000
back in whatever.

1950
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.039
And yeah, we had we had a we had a

1951
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:50.800
friend of the family, my dad's friend when he was

1952
01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:52.920
he was working at this company, his boss. He was

1953
01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:56.159
World War two vet, and I remember him. We used

1954
01:51:56.159 --> 01:51:58.000
to go to his house ald times. Kids. It's almost

1955
01:51:58.039 --> 01:52:00.840
like a pretty much like a family member. And he

1956
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:04.760
had this huge library, like huge library, and somehow I

1957
01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:08.680
gravitated towards that. And he had all these books on

1958
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:12.439
strategy and war and generals and you name it. Everything,

1959
01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:14.680
and I just I just soaked all that stuff up.

1960
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:16.920
And when he passed away, he left me his library.

1961
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:17.840
I ended up with all of that.

1962
01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:20.079
It was it was tons of books, tons of books.

1963
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:22.720
It was amazing. And you know what's crazy is what

1964
01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:26.479
I found through the years though. There was some publications

1965
01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:29.840
that he had from way back that when I revisited,

1966
01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:33.279
let's say, the revised versions or whatever, some of the

1967
01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:35.359
information was changed or taken out. And I never thought

1968
01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:37.039
that was a thing. I always thought that was just like, ah,

1969
01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:40.359
that was bullshit, conspiracy. But over time, some of this

1970
01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:43.760
information was rewritten and it was not the same, and

1971
01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:46.840
I noticed that it was really really weird, and you know,

1972
01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:49.000
this could be another rabbit hole we could dive down later,

1973
01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:52.279
but I'm just I personally saw that and I was

1974
01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:53.840
I was really, I was really shocked.

1975
01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:54.159
I didn't.

1976
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:56.239
I was like, wow, why would they change that? Why

1977
01:52:56.279 --> 01:53:00.439
would they want to you know, alter that information? Yeah,

1978
01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:02.560
you know, I have no idea why, but it does happen.

1979
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.720
It does happen. So it's like, over time, how can

1980
01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:08.560
we always rely on that information, you know, as it

1981
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:13.199
gets revised and rewritten. After all, the book I'm listening

1982
01:53:13.239 --> 01:53:13.920
to right.

1983
01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:16.800
Now about the Apollo program. Yeah, and I think the

1984
01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:21.600
book was originally written in the nineteen eighties, and they

1985
01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:24.640
said right up front in the in the audiobook that

1986
01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:28.800
we changed this stuff because, like, everybody has a computer now,

1987
01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:30.920
so we no longer have to at your plaint what

1988
01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:33.359
a computer is, right, So we cut that out. We also,

1989
01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:37.680
you know, there were things that that it was weird

1990
01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:40.399
just seeing like you know, I'm old enough to remember

1991
01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:44.239
smoking on an airplane. Yeah, right, like that was and

1992
01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:46.680
it is kind of weird when you watch something like

1993
01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:52.079
Apollo thirteen. I wonder if Apollo thirteen could even get

1994
01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:56.840
made today accurately. I don't know. Is the second question

1995
01:53:56.880 --> 01:54:02.560
light up a cigarette, you get an R rating true? True?

1996
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:06.479
So like could you even make Apaulla thirteen today? That's

1997
01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:09.880
that's a pretty interesting question. Probably we do, right, rewrite

1998
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:12.199
history to modern sensibilities.

1999
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:14.039
Yeah, we do, unfortunately, I mean I think we'll just

2000
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:16.479
let it be how it is. I mean, it's it's

2001
01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:18.319
a way to you know, you're just it's a way

2002
01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:20.239
to look back at how things were and you can

2003
01:54:20.359 --> 01:54:22.000
learn from that and not saying you have to repeat it,

2004
01:54:22.119 --> 01:54:23.479
but hey, this is how it was.

2005
01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:25.760
Deal with it. That's all there is to it.

2006
01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:29.520
That's what That's what I think. It's ridiculous. You know

2007
01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:32.520
what I'm gonna I'm gonna have to end it. I'm sorry, Ryan,

2008
01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:33.199
I gotta go.

2009
01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:34.800
I like talking to you.

2010
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:36.359
Man, You're You're great. This is fun.

2011
01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:37.680
I hope you can do it.

2012
01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:40.880
Yeah, no, seriously no, but I thank you for your patience.

2013
01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:43.960
I really apologize about that technical bs I I don't

2014
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.640
know what happened there. I'll do my best pieces together.

2015
01:54:48.079 --> 01:54:50.079
I want people to support you. Go to your YouTube channel,

2016
01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:52.039
appreciate your time. Hopefully I can do this with you

2017
01:54:52.079 --> 01:54:53.960
again some you know, down the road. I'm sure you

2018
01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:57.600
know you're busy, but hope, let's stay connected please, that'd

2019
01:54:57.640 --> 01:55:01.279
be awesome. And yeah, hey, hey, have a great day. Man,

2020
01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:03.680
appreciate it. You got to go, I know I do.

2021
01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:05.359
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to cut you off. I

2022
01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:07.800
just literally do have multiple meetings. I'm sorry about this.

2023
01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:11.880
I want to keep going. I do, but yeah, thank you, really,

2024
01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:12.760
I appreciate it.

2025
01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:14.079
All right, thank you for having me on.

2026
01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:17.399
All right, Ryan, bye, buddy, all right, everybody, that's the

2027
01:55:17.520 --> 01:55:20.079
end of the show. Thanks for hanging in there with me.

2028
01:55:20.880 --> 01:55:24.199
I hope you enjoyed it, and remember everybody, please like,

2029
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follow and share the show and you can connect with

2030
01:55:27.600 --> 01:55:30.920
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2031
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at FO n ts ablaze. Have a great day and

2032
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Ryan McBeth

Intelligence Analyst / Author

Ryan McBeth is an intelligence analyst, software architect, cybersecurity guy, and YouTube content creator of military, intelligence and disinformation topics. He appears on NEWSMAX as an intelligence consultant and consults for Veloxxity on OSINT and information warfare.

Ryan spent 20 years as an anti-armor and heavy weapons infantryman with two overseas deployments and developed C4ISR software for Accenture Federal Services. He lives in Silver Spring, Maryland with a large humidor and whiskey library.