Jan. 8, 2025

56 - Ryan McBeth

Ryan Mcbeth joins the show! Ryan is a widely popular YouTuber, military veteran, cyber security expert, and a member of the intelligence community. Ryan and I light a couple of cigars and, we discuss the attacks on New Years Eve, Trump, Ukraine,...

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Ryan Mcbeth joins the show!

Ryan is a widely popular YouTuber, military veteran, cyber security expert, and a member of the intelligence community.

Ryan and I light a couple of cigars and, we discuss the attacks on New Years Eve, Trump, Ukraine, China, OSINT, cigars, and even space aliens.

Ryan and I have a very interesting and informed conversation.

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You are listening to a Funds Media Network production. Hello

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Wilderblades listeners, and welcome to episode fifty six. Today, I

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have the pleasure of having Ryan McBeth on the show

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as my guest. Ryan McBeth is a wild popular YouTuber,

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a United States military veteran, and a current member of

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intelligence community. Ryan is very well known for explaining current events,

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exposing conspiracies, and revealing some of the inner workings and

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operations of military exercises. Ryan and I had an amazing conversation.

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He's highly intelligent, very outspoken, and we had a lot

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of fun on this show. You will hear a little

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crinkling and whatnot in the beginning of the show, and

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that's just me on wrapping my cigar. As Ryan and

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I both shared some cigars, had a great time, great conversation,

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and I think that she'll really enjoy this episode. So

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with that being said, let's begin, all right. So, mister

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Ryan macbeth, welcome, Thanks for taking the time man be here.

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Absolutely so, I got. I got. I was basically referred

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to you and said, hey, you need to reach out

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to this guy by Curvin, who I think you know

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that you were just on his show this week, explained,

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and he was basically like, yeah, he's he's a he's

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a real guy. He's a he's an intel guy. He

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knows the stuff and so as that great, and uh

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that's when I reached out to you, and uh, you know,

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I'm glad you responded so that that's very good of

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you to do. So. I know you're really busy guy,

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and you work hard, and I know that you know,

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we don't want to dive too much into crazy details

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like who you exactly serve with and all that, just

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for the protection of others. I get it.

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But I thought we.

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Talked about your background a little bit and maybe even

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bring up what's going on basically in the world now,

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which is a crazy twenty twenty five to be quite honest.

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Let me go ahead and cut this guy. I'm gonna

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go ahead and share a cigar with you.

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Oh fantastic. Yeah, I love these things.

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I have got this guy right. Pretty good stuff. Yeah

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it was a corona, Yes, sir, it's a La Roma

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de Cuba de Cuba.

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I think that's one of the Ashton cigars. Yeah it is.

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Yeah, yep, good stuff. So Ryan, sir, specific start with this.

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Now I'm gonna I'm gonna get into other topic later.

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But how long were you in the military, because it's

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your story's a little different than some other Intel guys

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I talked to. I don't think you went directly into it.

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Is that correct? You kind of fell into it later

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or got gravitated.

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I fell into it, So, I I mean, am I

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an Intel guy? I don't know? The story I often

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talk is, you know, I write the software twenty years infantry,

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and while I was serving, I got a batch's a

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Computer Science management. Later I got a master's in or

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MSc and cybersecurity. And so I was like, when I

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got out, I started working for Eccentric, specifically Center Federal Services,

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doing well, doing C four I SR Command Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence,

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fails for connaisance. We fine bag guys, right, and uh

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so a lot of stuff is sitment cyber intelligence. You know,

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Daddy al Batty calls his mom every Friday at three o'clock,

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and all right, let's see Daddy al Batty is always

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in this location. Then he goes to his favorite fallawful

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house and all right, so we can hit him here

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on the road when there's no cross traffic and we're

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we're all right, we're one hundred meters away from the

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school over here, so you want to use this kind

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of muneation that's like beyond what I do. But you know,

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you confirm our daddy, Oh Baddie is over here at

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this house, you know, because he talks with his mom

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every whatever where since you know, we know emails are

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coming from this house. So that's how I kind of

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get into it. And it's funny is that I have

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I have people who you know, they go, oh, you're

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on a real and tow guy, because you're not. You

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never went to the school at Fornachuka. I'm like, look, once, uh,

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Michael Jordan was being trash talk by Kobe Bryant. Yeah,

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and Michael Jordan looked down on Kobe Bryant's wearing air

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Jordan's and uh, Michael Jordan says Kobe Bryant, Man, how

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do you got trash talk me when you're wearing my shoes? Right?

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So that's kind of like you got trash talk.

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They're using I software, right, They're literally using something that

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you designed and put together and implemented and questioning you on.

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That, and you know, and and there's uh, it is

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kind of funny because I have enough well I don't

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do targeting, weapon earing stuff like that. Like you know,

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I find the people and you give that information to

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your client and then your client does whatever. Well, then

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sometimes you come back and get a pat on the

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back like, hey, we got daddy old baddie. Thanks man,

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got it.

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So that's interesting.

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Yeah, I mean I I enjoyed my time at Excentsure,

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like I have. I have nothing bad to say about it. It

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was it was literally like being in the military again

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because you uh, In fact, we even have an alumni group,

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like people who are at the Center and then leftic Center.

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We have an alumni group that you know, we all

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stay in touch with each other and stuff, and a

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lot of it's like it's like being in the army

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again in a lot of ways because like there was

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no Extentia was like the first company I worked at

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where there was no like I'm in it for me.

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It was like, we're in it for the client, okay,

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And if the client needed a pint of blood, one

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of us would have opened up a vein, you know,

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to give that client a pint of blood. Because it

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was all about the client and at the end of

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the day. It was all about the soldier, Like what

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is the end user, you know, out what is the

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end user's outcome going to be? And so we would

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work really hard to get things right. That's actually another

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reason why I get pissed off when people talk about

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the military industrial complex, like we're a bunch of people

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just taking money from the government and lighting our cigars

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one hundred dollars bills. Like no, dude, we like freaking

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work to make sure this, like to make sure the

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soldier has what they need to be an effective soldier.

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Like there's a lot of people who work for contracting

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companies who they put their whole career focus toward, like

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how can I make how can I protect America? How

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can I make the lives of our soldier desier? You know,

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And a lot of people don't understand that, but I mean,

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I think it's it's necessary for some people because they

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have to believe in conspiracy.

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Well yeah, you know, of course, and we'll dive into

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that later. But so something primarily you're focused on providing

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the correct tools for the job that was reliable and

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consistently able to be used out in the field.

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Yeah, yeah, to find the bag and then there's I mean,

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I am wearing this sweatshirt that says until because that's like,

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that's like people they are gonna meet with this source

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that's human intelligence, and that's useful. But well, you know,

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one of the things that I've often said human intelligence

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like we need to know, like we need to know, yeah,

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ideal like why does intelligence exists? It exists? Because mean

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to know who is doing what and why? Right now?

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Who is doing what? It's actually usually fairly easy to

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come up with, right, But the freaking why that's the

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gold mine.

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Like, all right, that's always that's always the question why.

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Why are they doing the thing? And you know, in

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some cases human intelligence can tell you the why. And

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sometimes people lie. That's the other big thing. But you

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know it doesn't lie your browser.

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History patterns of behavior, right.

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Oh, I get I get to ask you, hey, George,

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do you watch pornography?

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Right? And I can say yes, I could say no.

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Or you can say no. And the next thing I

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can say is can I look at your browser history?

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Right? And then you're like, and you know.

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Today our browsers and this this thing that we keep

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in our pocket, this magic window, we tell our magic

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light box. Things that we wouldn't even tell our spouse, true, right,

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we ask it questions. We wouldn't even ask our spouse.

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That's the real gold mine, right, that's where the real

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information is. If I want to know who is doing

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what and why, I even look at their computer and

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I have a pretty good idea of what they're doing,

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especially if they think it's secure.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah, So cyber intelligence is uh. I think it is

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a age your component and figuring out what the bad

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guys are doing.

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Yeah. And most people don't know how to hide their

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tracks either.

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No, and you know, in all honesty, hiding tracks is

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pretty difficult. Just in general, there is just so much

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digital exhaust that that we don't know about. I mean,

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did you do you remember hearing about the fitness trackers

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that expose some of our bases. Yeah, yeah, it was

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a couple of years back. It was like fit Bit

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and Garment.

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I remember the garment.

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You know, if you're if your workout, if your Strava

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is public, you know, people can see every day where

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you're working out, what you're doing, and where are guys

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gonna run. They're gonna run on the perimeter of the base, right,

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because that's the longest distance. So all right, now we

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have a matt. Now we know there's here's the perimeter

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of the base, right, and you know things like that,

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Like it is very difficult to turn that stuff. I

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don't wanna say turn that stuff off, but you don't

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even it's so ingreat in our usual life. I mean,

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I think one of the biggest issues we have in

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the military right now is signal. Well, it's like the

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freaking signal app.

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It's like these phones, like you said, very few people

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ever do not have it on them. You know, it's

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either on their nightstand right next to their bed, or

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first thing they get up they have to check their

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social media whatever, it's always in their pocket. It's tracking you.

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You're literally leaving breadcrumbs of what you're doing and where

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you're at at all times. And most people don't realize that, oh.

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Absolutely, And you have that issue. And the other issue

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you have is you look at something like signal. The

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army runs on signal. There's guys, especially if you're an officer,

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you might have five or six signal chats open. Right,

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there's one signal chat to the platoon, one signal chat

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for the company, one signal chat with the Tian command

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or one signal chat with the S one shop. So

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you have all these signal messages going and things fall

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through the cracks, right like, hey, we have and now

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it's really easy to like change things, say hey, formation

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time is zero fifteen instead of zero five point thirty,

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because now you can just send it out. It used

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to be like, hey, you gotta go get the runner,

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you gotta go to every All right, well, let's not

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change the formation time. I can change the formation time

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with a couple of presses a button. And I can't

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even imagine what that's like now for soldiers staff to

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be chained to this device that you're expected to answer

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within seconds. When you get that you can't you can't.

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Turn an excuse, You have no way to shut it down.

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Yeah yeah, yeah. And I've actually been of the opinion

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of the one of the things the Army needs to

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do on the military in general maybe is uh, I

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don't want to say band cell phones, but maybe create

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a cell phone that works on a wireless mess network

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that's us for soldiers. Okay, and you know, maybe it

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doesn't have video capability, but now you have a messaging

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system that maybe it does connect through GSM or through

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whatever provider. Maybe it does connect through satellite or through

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a mesh network, maybe just a monochrome screen, right like

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a kindle, So it lasts a week without having to

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charge it. Because now soldiers go to the box, they'll

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go to NTC National Training Center at Fort Huam, California,

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and they're told, don't bring your cell phone because that's

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a that's a way for the adversary, for the OP

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four to detect you. So then they don't. Either one

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or two things happens. Either if they don't bring their

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cell phone, and now they don't know how to operate,

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right because it used to be like, let me contact

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the S one. Pump up up up up up up right,

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the rules, and they get detected by the enemy's systems,

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by the OP four systems and they get blown up,

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or and then they get in trouble, right because they

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have their cell phone, or they don't bring their cell phone,

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and some officers says, hey, how committed to bring your

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cell phone? Yeah right, we're trying to get a hold

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of you. Well, the rules, I don't bring all your

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officer's supposed to have your phone on you. You got

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to you gotta work within the rules without you Like,

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so what do you do? Well, maybe have a separate

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cell phone.

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M Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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Yeah, that's a officer. Life is hard.

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And question being though, since you kind of mentioned yeah,

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basically communication after fingertips, do you think having too much

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of it in the service has been kind of, uh,

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kind of prohibits a few things, or has been kind

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of a detriment to communication in general, being that it's

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always accessible and you can never turn it off. Do

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you think people just automatically have to feel they have

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to communicate or just constantly be on their phone and

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trying to message. Do you think that might be a problem.

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It could be. I mean I think that that you

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certainly have. You certainly have an environment where people today,

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soldiers today, they've grown up with these things. They've grown

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up with two devices, so they're probably more used to

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having them around, so it's probably less of an issue.

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But at the same time, like, are they able to

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do something? Are they able to put that phone away

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and do their job?

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Right? That's kind of another thing too, right, that might

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be a general thing. Yeah, distractions, right, and.

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I've had people tell me that, like, there are soldiers

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who can't read. And it's not they can't read as

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in like you know, what, what does this word mean?

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It's more like they can't read as in like they

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they can't they can't take something and comprehend it if

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it's in long gotcha. So you have people who can

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read a street sign, but they have a lot of

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trouble actually taking a look at like a long manual

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to find the issue. Like that's just not something people do.

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No, And they probably don't have the patients for it.

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They're so used to instant short messages. You got you know,

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you basically got the phone version of shorthand and emojis.

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So yeah, yeah, I can totally see that. I really do. Well,

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that's interesting. So so militarily wise or military wise, I mean,

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do you think that we've improved over the years or

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have we kind of fallen back? And if you don't

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want to asker that screat, I just wonder from your perspective.

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You know, I have family members, I've served my nephews

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in the Marina.

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I thinks that the average I think that soldiers today

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are just as capable and willing and competent as soldiers

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from twenty years ago. And at some point it is

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the other the neat thing about like everything being a

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volunteer service. At some point everybody thought that joining the

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army would be a good idea. You know, I think

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soldiers are just as good as they were. Things are

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just different, you know, just the environment they grew up

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in is different. Things are just different. And so I

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wouldn't necessarily say they're better or worse, but I would

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certainly say that that soldiers today they learned differently. They

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grew up in a different environment. And you know, we

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need to focus on the fact that as our society changes,

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what we expect from our soldiers needs to remain the same,

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but we need to go about it in a different ways.

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I mean, I'm from the generation where you didn't get tattoos,

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right Like, if you got a tattoo, like you were

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kind of a badass, right Like, people didn't tend to

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get tattoos. Soldiers would tend to get tattoos, but tattoos

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weren't very acceptable in regular society. And then what happens

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then tattoos start to become acceptable in society. Right you

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see chefs with tattoos. So the military used to have

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a policy that would say like, hey, you can't have

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any tattoos that could show below a certain part of

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the sleeve of the dress uniform, right, or you couldn't

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have anything on your neck. And now some of that,

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some of those policies have changed. And that doesn't mean

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we're any weaker. It just means that, look, society moved

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to a different view on tattoos. We need to reflect

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what society feels about tattoos.

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Right, Well, society evolves, so it's just it's just a

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change in times, right.

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Yeah, And if we don't evolve along with it, that

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could be a problem virtue, Right, We're not going to

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be able to find the recruits. So one of the

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things I've talked about before, and I don't do drugs,

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but I can tell you that I think we need

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to figure out a way to allow our soldiers, allow

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our servicemen to consume marijuana. If you want to take

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a gum meat up your sleep, or you want to

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smoke a plant because it makes you feel good, you know,

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as long as you're fit for duty the next day

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or you know, we'll figure it out, right, Like, all right,

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you can't do it within twelve hours of plate operations

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or whatever. But I think that things like marijuana use beards.

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That's another thing. I think one third of all African

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American men suffer from razor bumps and grown hairs. All right,

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Why are we making them go get a shaving profile

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every couple of months? Why? Because we have this idea

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of what a soldier should look like. And you look

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at European armies, you look at Ukraine. Those guys have beards.

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They seem to be able to fight, and you know that.

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You get the area. Well, what about make our weapons?

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All right, well then you have to shave. Sorry, but

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until that mottlement, let them have a freaking beard. Yeah,

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you know, like there is We could probably solve recruiting

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very quickly with just allowing beards and allowing soldiers to

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partake in recreational marijuanas. If we just we can do

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that tomorrow. We can do beards tomorrow. Marijuana might take longer,

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but I.

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Think that'll take longer. But I think you have a

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point there. It's just figuring out how that would be

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regulated and how they'd be able to use it. But

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it does calm your nerves. It helps you sleep, There's

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there's many benefits to it. And I agree with you

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in whatich you're saying that, you know, we do have

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to keep up with the times. Look, things have changed.

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If if we're gonna stickers about little things such as beards,

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and that's what's going to hold people back from serving,

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you know, in the in the armed forces, that's just ridiculous.

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It doesn't make them less capable of a human being

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or a service person whatsoever. So I definitely agree with

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you on that. It's anos like we're fo sing on

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the wrong things, you know, and by doing so, we're

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just making ourselves weaker because we're not allowing those who

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want to participate and contribute what they have to offer

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because they don't meet this you know criteria you got

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to be clean shaven for example, right, just silly, It

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doesn't make any sense.

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And you look at Sikhs, you know, who have to

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go and get a special dispensation right in order to

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have in order to have a beard.

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Well, it's their freaking culture, culture, part of their religion.

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It's you know, hence also why they wear you know,

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their their turban or head dress. I'm familiar because i've

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I've hung out with a lot of both people in

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India and who are Indian South Indians, North Indians, and

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of course, you know Seeks in general, so I gotta

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I definitely have a good grasp with that culture. Spent

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many years providing services to them, you know, so, and

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the Seeks are extremely patriotic here in America. So yeah,

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they I think they deserve a little respectespecially when they

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serving in the military. You know, definitely, they definitely should

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ease up a bit, you know, in terms of that.

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So agreed, Let's let's move past military though, like, because

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here's the thing. Okay, you're a challenging guy. You know

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how to find information, You're good, you have a good

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bullshit meter, and uh twenty twenty five really uh started

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out with you know, well, definitely definitely shot out shout

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out the shout out the gate really quick here, and

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a lot of things happened. I mean, you know, I

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don't know how else to say it, you know, try

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not to use certain words, right.

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But yeah, all right, you don't want to get to monetize.

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Yeah, well whatever, So here's here's the thing we can address,

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and I'll get your opinions. I'm not gonna hold you

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to anything, by the way. Okay, so let's let's address

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what your thoughts are, given your history and everything that

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you've done, and you know your ability to basically find

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extracly you know, information and decipher it accurately. Uh, what

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what is what has been your position to take on

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what happened both in New Orleans and Las Vegas?

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Uh?

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Do you what do you think of that? And I

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know there was some stuff that you had an opinion

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on certain things regarding letters that that happened with you know,

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Las Vegas, et cetera. And we'll get into that if

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you're okay with it. But what what is your opinion

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in general on those two separate incidents.

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I think at some point we failed our soldiers, right,

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at some point the safety system failed, and you have

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two guys who have either been consuming ideology or maybe

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had a traumatic brain injury. And I think that one

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of the things we need to work on is allowing

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mental health as as a as A as a need

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to be able to let soldiers go see mental health, right,

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like if some want something isn't feeling right, And just

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because you don't have a physical injury doesn't mean that

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you might not have a mental injury or something like

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ct is it eat the thing the football people CT

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and off chronic traumatic and sepalopathy and SEP that thing

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that that people who play football CD. So you know,

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if you have something like CTE, you know you've been injured,

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but that injury isn't visible, And so all right, well

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why haven't why haven't you gotten that looked at? Right?

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Are you afraid that people are going to call you

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weak for going to see mental health when you have

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a genuine, honest, good injury, even if that injury isn't seen,

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you know, isn't visible. So I think that there there

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is a non zero chance that some of the participants

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in those events had some sort of CTE issue.

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It's a possibility, I won't really.

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And they they just didn't They just didn't get the

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care that they needed. Now, there's also the possibility that

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at least in the New Orleans case, where you had

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a guy who just, uh, you know, life wasn't going

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for him so well, and he finds another path and

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he decides to go down that path and hurt people.

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That's I mean, I don't know how you fix that

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after they're gone, you know, it could be something as

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simple as like you know, once you once you join

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the military, like why why why aren't we checking up

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on our veterans? Right?

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Yeah, agreed, Night. I do have a friend that brings

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this up quite a bit because you know, he's in

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and out of whatever the VA allows him to get

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in terms of treatment. You know, he's at their mercy.

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Really yeah, and there has always been a concern for

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him and other people I know who's served. It's and

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you're right, there's always that manly, macho and even if

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you're not a man whatever, it's just that there's that

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that level of like, I'm not a weak person. I'm

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not going to go ahead and submit to getting you know,

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care for for whatever's going on in my head. Right,

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And you're I think your point about CTE is it's

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a valid one because it's something that it's not not

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detectable immediately. It just kind of comes on and there's

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no real care for it. You just got to kind

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of manage it and it gets progressively worse over time.

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So I think it might be onto something there, and

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that could have been the case as to why you know,

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these people chose to do what they did, right New Orleans.

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I don't know. Look, I'm not an expert in it.

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I'm just I just know what I've read and based

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on the information and release, one person you know, serves

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in the military, US citizen and decides I'm gonna go

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ahead and commit to Islam and to you know, just

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extremism in general. Fine, but I'm not sure what would

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cause that. As far as Lebrusburger go, I can't figure

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that one out. Got got a career green beret, someone

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who's still you know, serving, et cetera. I can't really

467
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:22.720
make sense of that one either. And I'm not gonna

468
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:24.519
I'm not gonna say what exactly happened because I can't,

469
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.359
you know, I really can't. But you know, so that

470
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:33.000
one's an interesting case. The thing is, I'm not gonna

471
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.480
put you on the spot and ask what you believe,

472
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.839
but I will ask you about the letters that that

473
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.799
were released, you know, like the two emails and then

474
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.240
the other one. What was your take on that. I mean,

475
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.400
it kind of just came out sudden, and to me,

476
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:46.400
it looked like it was almost written by three different people.

477
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:50.559
And kind of what you said about CTE might have

478
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.599
been a you know, a contributing factor to that, but

479
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.279
who knows what? What do you think of that? That?

480
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:58.079
It's it's a tough one. It's a tough one because

481
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:03.799
there's a lot of inconsistency. Now I'm actually I bringing news.

482
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.359
I'm actually digging deeper into that because I think I

483
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.160
using the email address, I actually think I found the

484
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.200
guy's phone number. This is kind of what I do. Interesting,

485
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:18.160
So I'm sorry, Yeah, and I'm gonna I need to

486
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:20.680
like cross all my eyes and dot all my te's.

487
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.680
I ain't kind of the The thing that kind of

488
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.400
upset me with the way that was handled was that

489
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:32.200
the people involved instead of you know, going to the FBI,

490
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:37.079
uh you you know, let's make a video and try

491
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.480
to make clicks, right as opposed to like that that's

492
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:46.200
a little I'm actually familiar with the person who broke

493
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:49.640
that story, and there was there's some issues with that

494
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:56.599
particular individual. I encounter that person before you're like, uh,

495
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:01.079
there was this video or this post this person made

496
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.240
about Fort Novasel. Now like oh, we don't have any

497
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.240
money to train our pilots at Fort Nova Cell. I

498
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.319
was like, dude, I'm going down to Fort Nova Cel

499
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.880
to make a video in two weeks and I like,

500
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.160
I heard any talk of the po wow and like,

501
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:23.000
so there's like I get why someone who didn't want

502
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:28.200
to take the COVID vaccine might be upset about about

503
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.720
their status in life, right or a set at the

504
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.319
military that told them go take this unproven vaccine. I

505
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:40.160
get that, But at the same time, like, don't try

506
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.319
to screw over other people who are still serving number

507
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:49.160
one and number two it freaking like, don't parent Russian propaganda.

508
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:55.319
R Like, it's it's just there's a there are a

509
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.480
lot of questions that need to be answered. I think

510
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.920
part of the part of the issue is that that

511
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.400
it's it's this, it's the source of the message, not

512
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.799
necessarily the nature of the message. That that's kind of

513
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.240
an issue. I think more digging needs to be done.

514
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.920
There's also some other issues, because like if if you

515
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.519
were a bad guy, let's say, if you if you're

516
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.960
a bad guy, if you are running from the police,

517
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.519
you probably shouldn't take a cyber truck, right, You probably

518
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.160
shouldn't leave something that makes a paper trail.

519
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.000
Unless something's so freaking yeah, flashy and draw so much attention.

520
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:39.680
I mean, why would you do it?

521
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:43.559
Yeah, unless you wanted to have a paper trail, you know,

522
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.559
and because like in your mind, like this is the

523
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.279
only way this thing can get any attention is if

524
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:55.559
I create an electronic trail, a breadcrumb trail. But like

525
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.480
if you really were on the run from the police

526
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.920
and they were trying to find you, you Yeah, and

527
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.160
I'm not a counterintelligence guy, but like, if I wanted

528
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.240
to disappear, I certainly wouldn't use a cyber truck to

529
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:13.279
do it. No, right, agreed, unless I wanted to be tracked,

530
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.960
which kind of gets into another thing entirely.

531
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.920
I'm I'm on the same path you are, right now,

532
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.319
I get where you're wrong with it. Yeah, why why

533
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.079
would you leave such an obvious like you said, trailer breadcombs?

534
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.480
Why would you do that? It doesn't make sense, It doesn't.

535
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.759
And of course, without naming names, I know, you know,

536
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.599
we'll avoid certain names. I'm personally not afraid of any

537
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.119
of them, to be quite honest, I can care less

538
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.279
as long as there's facts and data behind it. But

539
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.160
you know, I just think that this was a case

540
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.759
of yes, the story shouldn't have been broken how it was.

541
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.480
It should have went to the to the authorities first.

542
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.519
You know, let's let them get their hands on that,

543
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.920
let them see what's happening with it. But no, you know,

544
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.359
it turned out to be a big media fiasco. Maybe

545
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.240
it was all about likes and clicks or just to

546
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:01.799
be hey, I got the breaking story. I got to

547
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.039
get this out. I think it should have been vetted

548
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.359
more personally, because it's really hard to determine, you know,

549
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.799
all the facts involved with that. It was just kind

550
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.039
of a sudden oh, by the way, we found these

551
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.480
ideas that weren't burned and whatever. Oh and by the

552
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.599
way this happened, and hey, look now we have these

553
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.000
messages out of nowhere. So there was definitely a lot

554
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.640
more digging to do before, you know, they really broke

555
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.319
that story. I think they could have just said, hey,

556
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.440
we found some communications that may have been, you know,

557
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.759
center related to Matthew Lubersberger. They could have done that,

558
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.160
but they chose not to, and so I kind of

559
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.279
had an issue with that too. And it's also a

560
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.160
case of where, you know, let's say someone like yourself,

561
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.359
this is what you do for a living, and you're

562
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.039
like questioning it and you get criticized for it, and

563
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.400
it's only because maybe you know, the other said person

564
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.640
just happens to be a more popular person in the

565
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.200
media space, and so somehow that person more credible, which

566
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.160
happens a lot and doesn't really make much sense. So

567
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.480
I hate that too, and I don't think that's the

568
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.119
correct way for people to view that that situation either.

569
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.759
It's ridiculous personally, But I'm with you. I think more

570
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.400
digging has to be done. Is that something that you're

571
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.680
going to continue to do and eventually.

572
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.880
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm actually doing it right now. Cool.

573
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.200
I look forward to your assessment, to be quite honest,

574
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.480
you know, I want an answer on it. It's just

575
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.680
really strange situation, it really is, and I think to

576
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.319
many people are jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. Personally. Yeah,

577
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:33.039
so no, there's that, but yeah, well, not much more

578
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.079
to say on that until we know more.

579
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:39.119
Right, Well, what do you think is going on? Well,

580
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:39.920
I know you don't want to get.

581
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.559
Into politics, because that's that's not what most intel type

582
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.039
people do. You want to stay more neutral, and it's understandable,

583
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:47.720
But how do you think how do you think moving

584
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.240
forward to twenty twenty five, where does America fit into

585
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.759
the geopolitical space for the in the world right now,

586
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.359
once Trump actually takes the reins, and I don't we

587
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.880
don't have to talk about Trump and genteship, but just

588
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.799
just how everything might be approached and handled and how

589
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.519
the world might see us moving forward. What do you

590
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:06.119
think about that?

591
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.039
So I think that that in a lot of ways,

592
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.640
there's a new sheriff in town, okay, right. And I

593
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:18.079
think that one of the things that President Trump has

594
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.559
not not a lot of other other people have, is

595
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.000
he certainly has his own way of doing things.

596
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:27.519
Yes, he does.

597
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:32.640
And and so you know what what you have now

598
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.720
is a guy who, you know, world leaders who might

599
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:44.079
be questioning how they're going to proceed with their their

600
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.279
way of doing business because you have a guy who

601
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.640
is a genuine, honest to god wild card, right exactly.

602
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.880
I think that that's going to be it's certainly going

603
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.599
to be the case with Iran, where you know, for

604
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.960
for the most part, what we've seen coming out of

605
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.200
the current administration. Uh and you know we're recording this

606
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.599
in January seventh, right, is it's it's almost like you

607
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.960
do have a guy who's checked out, right, you have

608
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.440
a guy who is he's made decisions that may not

609
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.719
have been the best decisions, one of which might have been,

610
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.239
let's let's slow walk ammunition to Ukraine, right Like, let's, uh,

611
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:38.079
let's let's only give Ukraine enough ammunition so they don't lose,

612
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.960
but let's give them enough so that they lose slowly.

613
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.920
And that's that's probably not a good policy, right, Like

614
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.760
we had started the war with like, hey, we're gonna

615
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.639
give Ukraine anything they need in order to kick the

616
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.360
Russians out, I think we would see a totally different

617
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.400
situation going on in Ukraine.

618
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.440
It would definitely a different outcome right now.

619
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.400
For sure it would be. And there's no excuse I

620
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.400
think we have Look, we got plenty of F sixteen's

621
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.960
in the boneyard. We can refurbish those things. We have

622
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.400
so many options and ways to help Ukraine, and we

623
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.280
sent I think it was around twenty and one Abrams

624
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:25.320
tanks to Ukraine and like great, but that's it's not

625
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.760
a lot, right like they and are are those tanks?

626
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.719
Are those tanks in particular even applicable to to modern

627
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.239
war like in this war in it of itself, do

628
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:35.719
you think.

629
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.960
Oh, it seems like it seems like what Ukraine is

630
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:46.920
trying to do with with their with their forces. Is there,

631
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.920
there's there. They're not using tanks to break through. Okay,

632
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.159
that's traditionally what you use a tank for. Find where

633
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.440
the bad guys are, find the weak point, breakthrough with armor,

634
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.679
and then run havoc in the rear. Right, And it

635
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.199
doesn't seem like they're doing it that way, which is

636
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:05.719
how we would do it. And there's a reason why,

637
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.079
because they don't have air support.

638
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:08.280
Gotcha.

639
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.840
Now, Originally I had said that, you know, F sixteen's

640
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:17.639
were necessary because F sixteens can fire the harm anti

641
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.920
radiation missile, and once you fire that harm anti radiation missile,

642
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.280
or once you once you start taking out Russian surface

643
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.360
to air missiles, that forces the Russian people back, and

644
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:33.159
then you can use jade ms against certain hard targets,

645
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:40.000
and then you can use F sixteens for air superiority,

646
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.719
and that that kind of changes what you can do

647
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.320
on the ground with your tanks, right once you have

648
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.440
their superiority. The reason this war has lasted so long

649
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:55.159
is partially due to the fact that neither side has

650
00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:02.239
really gained air superiority. And that's a huge issue. And

651
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.840
I think one of the things that that we might

652
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.559
have learned here and our rule was something to know

653
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.800
or something to understand going forward, is that if you

654
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.239
don't have air superiority and this now includes space, you

655
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.599
don't have air slash space superiority, you're gonna have long wars.

656
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.159
You're gonna have wars to take a long freaking time. Yeah,

657
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.480
with that, and you know, if you're cool.

658
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.880
With that, you know, like, Okay, do you think it's

659
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.039
just been unnecessarily drawn out?

660
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.000
Definitely? And and it's this is one of those things

661
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.559
where it could have been a lot I'm gonna say

662
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.960
it could have been a lot shorter. I think that

663
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.199
that if we had given Ukraine the stuff they needed

664
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.559
when this this whole war started. Uh. You know, one

665
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.320
of the things I said is we can't just send

666
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.840
F sixteens to Ukraine, right, we can't just you know, like, oh,

667
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.920
let's send F sixteens to Ukraine. We can't send them there.

668
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.679
It takes like a year long training course, we have

669
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.880
to worry about maintainers. There's a lot of things we

670
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.239
have to do before we can give F sixteens to Ukraine.

671
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.079
But if we had started that process the day of

672
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.360
the war started, we'd be in a different position.

673
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.400
Do you think do you think that may be also

674
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.920
the concern of that of the NATO element in and

675
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.800
of self, the agreements there kind of was a contribute

676
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.800
factor to kind of holding back a bit in the beginning.

677
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.639
Yeah, I mean so, I think when this whole thing

678
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.320
first started, there are a lot of people who like,

679
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.519
they didn't want to upset Russia, right, right, Well, let's

680
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:48.280
not let's not poke the bar, let's not yeah this

681
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:52.079
could be yeah, let's not escalate. That's that's the one

682
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.760
damn word they kept using escalation. They did, we don't

683
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.519
want to escalate things. Well, Russia doesn't need our help

684
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:05.480
with s escalating anything like they they do that naturally. Right,

685
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.840
This is true. And I think one of the things

686
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.480
that we discovered when Russia was or when Ukraine actually

687
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:21.320
invaded Kursk was that Russia, I'm not saying they're a

688
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:26.880
paper tiger, but they didn't strike back with nuclear weapons

689
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:33.519
and using nuclear weapons in Kursk. That would be a

690
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:38.159
reason for using nuclear weapons, right, It is a valid

691
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.480
use case in the sense of all right, there is

692
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.639
a there's a bad guy invading, we can drop a

693
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.199
bomb here, and that would have stopped the invasion cold

694
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.440
and I think that in some ways, Ukraine, I don't know,

695
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.400
Ukraine Russia would have been I don't want to say

696
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.960
the word justified, but there would have been less blowback

697
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:07.920
if Russia fired a nuclear weapon, a tactical nuclear weapon

698
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:13.000
against invading Ukrainian forces, if they went into Kursk, then

699
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.480
if they used it on Ukrainian soil. Now, of course,

700
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.480
one of the disadvantage of that. Disadvantages of that is

701
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.639
you're using it on your own soil exactly, and the

702
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.119
winds prevailing winds if they're going west or they're going east,

703
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:28.519
that's a problem for you. If they're going west, that's

704
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.239
a problem for Europe. So Europe still would have been

705
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:37.119
could have been very upset that they did that. However,

706
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.920
they probably would have been. Honestly, that probably would have

707
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.920
been the best way of justifying using a nuclear weapon,

708
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.559
and it would have stopped the work hold.

709
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.559
Right, it would have. But I'm going to lean more

710
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.960
towards the side that they would have actually been affecting

711
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.760
their own land and also probably engaging, you know, other

712
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.400
nations that they didn't want to be engaged with at

713
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.960
that time. Yeah, and probably still they don't. But fast

714
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:09.440
forward to their use of the hypersonic missile technologies, and

715
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.400
they launched, they launched when they used one. They haven't

716
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.440
done it again that I know of. Why do you

717
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.559
think they might be holding back on using those for example?

718
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.079
Well, I mean they're expensive. It's ten million dollars a missing.

719
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.440
Fair enough. Now, Like, look, when you're when you're Russia,

720
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.039
you have you know your I think the budget, I

721
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.199
want to say, it's like one hundred and twenty billion

722
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.079
dollars a year, like one hundred and twenty eight billion year.

723
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.840
I think that's what their military budget is. You know,

724
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.159
our is eight hundred billion twenty six significantly like that,

725
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.559
significantly different. Right. That's actually one of the reasons when

726
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.440
people say, like, oh my god, what if Frusher goes nuclear? Like, dude,

727
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.320
we spent eighty billion, it was fifty to fifty billion

728
00:41:54.360 --> 00:42:00.480
dollars a year on our nuclear program, right, and we

729
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.159
have roughly the same amount of nuclear weapons as Russia.

730
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.039
So what did that? You know, we spent fifty billion

731
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.719
dollars a year and Russia was spending sixty six billion

732
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.559
on their entire army back in twenty twenty. Oh. You know,

733
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.000
I think that I'm certain that there are some Russian

734
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.199
nuclear weapons that have been maintained, They have their tritium refilled.

735
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:27.800
You know, they've gone through at least two and a

736
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.679
half I think tritium cycles. Tritium is the booster that

737
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.960
you use a nucular weapon that that decays kind of

738
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.760
the same tritium that's in my gun sights, right, Russia,

739
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.719
So you use that as a booster for the weapon.

740
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.280
I mean, they've been through two tritium decay cycles. Tritiums

741
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:48.760
are really expensive, so I could easily see Russia making

742
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.880
sure that they have a couple of working warheads, especially

743
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.760
on like their Bory class submarines, but their whole arsenal

744
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.239
not a chance in hell that they have their whole

745
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.840
arsenal ready ran. One nuclear weapon might be too many.

746
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.239
But I think this whole specter of oh my god,

747
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.239
what if Russia goes nuclear like? And I don't really

748
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.639
see that as a real stick thing because if they

749
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:09.920
were going to do that, Chris would have been the

750
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.599
place to do it, and they didn't. Gotcha, No, I

751
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.800
think only we got off on a tangent somewhere.

752
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.760
Oh no, no, it's it's it's it's fine. I mean,

753
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.239
you're you're giving your opinion based on the facts and

754
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.079
data you know about this, and it's important to point

755
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.719
that out. And it's interesting how you know, basically we

756
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.800
spend more than Russia, but yet we have approximately the

757
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:33.880
same amount of nuclear warheads or weapons, which is kind

758
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.599
of telling it's crazy, right, Yeah, And of course, yeah,

759
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.800
hypersonic missiles are expensive. And then Russia just just lost

760
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.320
one of their major you know, income sources, right, They're

761
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.440
no longer going to be supplying gas. They got cut

762
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.800
off there. I forgot where it's coming from now. Uh,

763
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.559
but you know, a lot goes in the head sometimes

764
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.960
it sometimes it just doesn't stick there. But I know

765
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:58.840
that they lost that source of income now, right, So

766
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.119
there's there's there's money off the table for continued funding

767
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:08.159
from that side. Also for Russia. Interestingly though, relationship wise,

768
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.159
what's okay your take? Almost going on in North Korea

769
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:16.000
right now? How they just suddenly were a part of

770
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.599
supporting Russia. Now I kind of can understand the relationship

771
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:24.079
with Russia North Korea, I get it. But that being said,

772
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.760
they've been in the war in Ukraine and fast forward

773
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.960
here they are now allegedly testing their own hypersonic missiles, right,

774
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.440
They just launched one fell into the sea over there

775
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.840
on its way to Japan. But we don't even know

776
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.800
if that's confirmed. I know they've been testing for since

777
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.079
is it since twenty twenty or something like that. I

778
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.679
think they've been trying to test us for a while,

779
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.880
but I don't know if they really have that technology.

780
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:50.599
Now.

781
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.920
Is a lot that you think attributed, possibly through the

782
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.679
to the relationship they have with Russia currently. Do you

783
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.480
think Russia's sharing technologies?

784
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.760
Yeah, I think they have to, like that's that's something

785
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:09.519
they absolutely have to do. And you know, the big

786
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.800
issue with Russia, and people talk about how big Russia is.

787
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.119
They have all these troops, but they also kind of

788
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.559
don't gotcha. For the longest time, Russia had this deal

789
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:24.480
with their population. The population said, listen, you can do

790
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.480
whatever you want, have whatever wars you want, but don't

791
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.880
touch our kids. It was the second you touched our kids,

792
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.960
that's when we're going to have a revolution. And so

793
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:36.840
as long as you don't touch the kids in Saint

794
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.639
Petersburg and Moscow, then you don't have to worry about

795
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:49.679
Russian people rebelling against you. Calling people up now. A

796
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:55.039
couple of years ago in twenty twenty two in the summer,

797
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.519
we had a general that Russia had a general mobilization,

798
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.440
and that was when you add all those problems with

799
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:06.559
people showing up and like, how do you they didn't

800
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.880
know they hadn't actually been to training because they had

801
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.920
gotten a deferment, but they were still in the system

802
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.800
that they had gone to training. Like that, that's when

803
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.840
you add all sorts of problems. So what Russia has

804
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:24.920
tried to do is they've tried to just do volunteers,

805
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.840
just do an all volunteer army, Like, we're still going

806
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.199
to have conscripts, but these conscripts are going to be

807
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:35.559
safely in the rear lince. And the issue is that

808
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.400
they keep having to raise the bonuses and the pay

809
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:46.440
for soldiers. So, now if you are a weapons manufacturing company,

810
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.800
and Russia, I think like twenty percent of their economy

811
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:54.480
or so is focused on making weapons. So if you're

812
00:46:54.840 --> 00:47:00.320
manufacturing weapons, now you have to outbid people who can

813
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.039
get more money by joining the army. So then the

814
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:08.079
weapons manufacturers have to raise the wages, and so the

815
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:10.400
army then has to raise the wages. So the weapons

816
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.800
manufacturers raise the wages, and so now you have this

817
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:21.840
kind of crazy situation where you have inflation going like crazy, right,

818
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:29.039
because everybody has a job and everybody is making money

819
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:35.559
and either in the army or in doing the doing

820
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:40.280
the weapons manufacturing thing, and that creates inflation. So now

821
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.400
you have essentially runaway inflation inside Russia, and now you're

822
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:48.320
at a point where Russia literally can't stop the war

823
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.280
because the second they do, there's going to be a

824
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:55.159
huge freaking problem. And then that problem is like you're

825
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.280
gonna have a whole bunch of people unemployed, and that's

826
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.519
how you end up getting the Cholchesky special.

827
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.519
Okay, So so you think they might be at the

828
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:05.360
point that if they just suddenly stopped the sword, that

829
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.800
it would just basically crash your economy or bring it

830
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.280
to a halt.

831
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.159
Look, you've just you've just trained about hundreds of thousands

832
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.239
of people and how to use weapons systems, right, and

833
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.199
now all those people are out of a job now. Granted,

834
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.360
gun control is a little stricter in Russia than it

835
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:33.599
is in the US, but men who want to start

836
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:35.519
revolutions have always seemed to.

837
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.840
Be able to find guns absolutely.

838
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:41.599
And you know, you have a bunch of people who've

839
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:44.639
been you know who get out of the army because

840
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.199
the war has stopped and now they can't find a

841
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.000
job anywhere. That's a recipe for absolute disaster.

842
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:52.679
Yeah, agreed.

843
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.480
So it's it's almost like Russia literally can't stop this war.

844
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.320
They have to keep a gun. That's one of the

845
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.039
reasons I I don't think President Trump was going to

846
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.400
a piece within twenty four hours, Like it's just not

847
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:10.239
it doesn't work for Putin. No, he's not going to

848
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:11.280
be able to stay in power.

849
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.079
And earlier, earlier though, we dropped out a bit, so

850
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.880
I might have missed what you were saying about why

851
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.639
you felt they had to keep that relationship with North Korea.

852
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:26.559
Yeah, so Russia they need men. They can't get soldiers

853
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:32.559
from the general population through a general mobilization because the

854
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.639
people in Saint Petersburg and Moscow won't like that. Okay, Right,

855
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.119
there's been this deal that like hey, you know, do

856
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.239
whatever you want, but don't take our kids. Take the

857
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:43.559
other kids, don't take our kid.

858
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.039
So basically they're relying on allies to help them bolter

859
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:48.360
their forces at this point.

860
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.400
Absolutely, and so like hey, we're going to give you,

861
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.920
We're going to give you weapon technology we're going to

862
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.880
give you maybe nuclear technology you give us men? Got it?

863
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.000
Why Why isn't China stepped in though? So there's there's

864
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.320
supposed to be the one of the biggest allies to

865
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.920
Russian but yet China's been quiet in supporting or even

866
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.360
election to even step in and help Russia with their efforts.

867
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.639
Do you think that relationship might be slowly just disintegrating,

868
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.519
like maybe they're just getting away from each other.

869
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.360
I think that that China's always gotta do it's best

870
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:25.039
for China, and it's just it's not you know, actually

871
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:29.840
fighting in in Ukraine just isn't what's best for China

872
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.719
because I think that would you know, China wants to

873
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:39.480
sell uh cheap, cheap consumer products to everybody in the world,

874
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:43.719
right yep, But we don't necessarily need to buy those products,

875
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.920
right Like if if Tomorrow is actually part of my

876
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.119
book The Wind Machine, you know, if tomorrow China stopped

877
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.400
selling cheap toasters, right or cheap alarm clocks, someone would

878
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.880
step in to fill that void. Might be South America,

879
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.679
might be Mexico. We would certainly figure out a way

880
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.480
to use cheap labor to manufacture stuff. Again, Yeah, that

881
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.320
would that would happen, and it would almost definitely happen

882
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.280
sooner if China decided to put boots on the ground

883
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.960
and actually go fight in Ukraine, you know, in other ways,

884
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.800
like it makes more sense to have a weak Russia

885
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.599
for China because they're getting a hell of a deal

886
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:33.679
on oil right now, right like seriously, right like like

887
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.079
why should we go help? China doesn't want this war

888
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.760
to end because you know, the second this war ends,

889
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.039
my god, one of two things gonna happen. If the

890
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:48.440
war ends and uh and Putin is still in charge,

891
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.360
there is a non zero chance that they might start

892
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:57.239
selling oil to other countries. And now the price of

893
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:04.639
oil goes up. And if Putin loses and Russia either

894
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.880
fractures into a bunch of warlord states, which is you know,

895
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.119
that's certainly a non zero possibility that Russia could fracture

896
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:16.880
into a bunch of warlord states, then they lose their

897
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:21.239
oil as well. So it's actually best for China to

898
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.920
just kind of keep this war going on as long

899
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.760
as humanly possible because they get cheap oil out of it,

900
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.360
all right, So why would they want this war to end?

901
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.400
I can see that, like they look they could have.

902
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:39.000
They could have they when the Huthis were shooting missiles

903
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.440
in the Red Sea, China could have sent ships there

904
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:48.760
and got experience in actually shooting down missiles because they're

905
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:50.320
gonna need that for when they invade.

906
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.000
Taiwan is going to go eventually.

907
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.360
But I would saying, look, you know, they're essentially farming

908
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:02.519
XP right. You know, when when are when our forces

909
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.239
were in in the Red Sea, when the US is Carney,

910
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.360
you know, the largest distributor of Iranian drone parts in

911
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.960
the world, the US is Carney rolled into the Red Sea.

912
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:16.559
I think they had I want to say, fifty six

913
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.760
fifty fifty six engagements. They went fifty six and zero, right,

914
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.000
says Carney. And those people are incredible, those sailors. You know,

915
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:29.960
if I ever meet someone from the US's Carney, They're

916
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.719
never gonna have to buy a drink. And I'm serious.

917
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.800
They did an incredible job. And what we what we

918
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.760
learned from from that environment where these are shooting missiles

919
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:45.280
at US and we're shooting them down, we learned a

920
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.719
lot about ages about how our missiles function. We got

921
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.440
a lot of telemetry, a lot of data on all

922
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:58.119
this stuff. And you know, trying kind of could have

923
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:02.000
sent a couple of destroyers there helped out with the mission. Yeah,

924
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.880
they have ships there for doing anti piracy stuff, right,

925
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.559
so why didn't they do that? Well, I mean it

926
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.400
could be that they were afraid their missiles wouldn't work

927
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.360
and they wouldn't want us to see that. So that

928
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.159
might be possibly one thing, yeah, right. Another thing might

929
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:26.800
be that they wanted chaos in that area, that particular

930
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:32.440
part of the world because somehow that benefits China. You know,

931
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.480
there's there's quite a few reasons why they might not

932
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:40.440
have wanted to participate and that, and you know, you

933
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.000
could say the same for Ukraine. China could send troops

934
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.639
over to Ukraine and farm Xpe learn how to fight.

935
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.440
They haven't fought the wars as they fought oh boy, Vietnam,

936
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:54.599
and I think that was in seventy nine, maybe seventy seven,

937
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.199
seventy nine, I think.

938
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.519
So it's really been a long time since they've ever

939
00:54:58.639 --> 00:54:59.480
really been tested.

940
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.480
There is nobody I doubt there's anybody left in the

941
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:12.400
Chinese military who was on active duty when China invaded Vietnam, Right,

942
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.559
so they essentially have no more experience. I ranted for

943
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:21.920
us all the guys we served around the Global War

944
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:27.480
on Terror or either you know, high ranking sergeants, high

945
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:32.400
ranking NCOs or high ranking officers, those lieutenants and captains.

946
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.840
They've been promoted since then. You know, the war was

947
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:41.480
God twenty three, my God, twenty four years ago. I'm

948
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:42.360
almost fifty.

949
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:44.679
Me too, I'm forty nine.

950
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.400
Like it's kind of crazy, I'm forty nine.

951
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.400
It's crazy to look back at things like, man, hey,

952
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:52.239
you know, we were.

953
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:57.760
In Afghanistan for so long that someone who was born

954
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.920
on the day of the terrorists acts could have actually

955
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.199
been in Afghanistan.

956
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:07.880
Yeah, you know, you know that's a crazy.

957
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.239
Guy who was serving in Afghanistan could have had a

958
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:16.480
kid who joined the army and ended up serving in Afghanistan, right, Yeah, yeah,

959
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.440
Like that's kind of crazy when you think about it,

960
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.320
like the war lasted that long, but all those people,

961
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.639
you know, at least we have some data right on

962
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.800
how we perform in combat, even though we don't have

963
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:33.159
those those soldiers anymore, you know, in we don't have

964
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.440
low lower ranking soldiers of combat experience and also anything

965
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.000
about it, we have the wrong kind of combat experience

966
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.360
because that was coined, that was counterinsurgency, and now it's

967
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.079
all list scale or large scale combat operations. So now

968
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:50.840
anybody who's remaining in the military has the right experience

969
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.119
for the wrong war, and that could be just as

970
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.800
detrimental as not having any experience at all, but at

971
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.840
least well positive or negative however you want to view it.

972
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:03.960
You know, the American forces have been tested pretty consistently

973
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:06.960
throughout the years. I think we kind of know what

974
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:08.960
we're doing in in the you know, for the most

975
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.320
most part, we're not perfect, but you know, we are

976
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.800
pretty battle tested. You know, we have a pretty battle

977
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.880
test in America American Force period.

978
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:21.760
So a lot of that is a lot of that

979
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.800
is training. Yeah, I U ling was last year I

980
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.440
embedded with the Two years ago I embedded with the

981
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.159
first airborne with the Rocaissans. They had an air assault

982
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.960
with those guys, and you know, they're is just as

983
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.440
good as they were ten years ago. Were do you have.

984
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.079
I want to interject real quick, real quick, because I

985
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.039
know we're gonna have so much time. I want to

986
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.159
say on the China thing, really from an if you're

987
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.400
okay with that, because it seems like they've been again,

988
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:55.679
you know, really pushing the issue about Taiwan. Uh President

989
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:57.920
G has already, you know, made a few statements on

990
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.320
Taiwan will always be Chinese and no one's ever going

991
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.079
to get between us and whatnot. And they're they're doing

992
00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:07.880
more and more exercise and maneuvers over there. And do

993
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.440
you think we're eventually within a few years going to

994
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.280
be on that I mean, it seems like we're kind

995
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:13.800
of on a collision course. Do you think that is

996
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.079
the case or is it just a lot of huff

997
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:17.039
and puffs, so to speak.

998
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:22.360
I think that that President Z has told their military

999
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:26.360
that they have to be ready to invade Taiwan by

1000
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:30.079
twenty twenty seven, got it, Like that's when they that's

1001
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.800
when they are supposed to be ready.

1002
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:34.320
And that's a consensus I've gotten from other people too.

1003
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.960
They kind of feel like by twenty seven, maybe even

1004
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.679
as far out as twenty thirty, we might be in

1005
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.679
that situation where we might have to defend Taiwan or

1006
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:46.320
there might be a situation with Taiwan and China.

1007
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.639
The ideal time to do it would be in April

1008
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:57.079
of twenty twenty twenty eight or October twenty twenty eight,

1009
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.320
because that's when there's a US presidential election, right that

1010
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.880
transition it and nobody wants to make the wrong decision

1011
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.440
right during a presidential election. So that would be, you know,

1012
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.280
twenty twenty seven is when they're supposed to be ready.

1013
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.559
And it's if you say, like, hey, China's going to

1014
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:18.320
invade Tiwan twenty twenty seven, that's the general consensus of

1015
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:23.440
when they will be ready. Now, whether China can still

1016
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.320
be deterred, that's kind of a different question, right, that

1017
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.599
is that is a different a valid question play will

1018
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.000
we be able to deter China? And I think that

1019
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.400
that's gonna that's going to come into play with all right,

1020
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.760
how are our alli is going to play into this

1021
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.159
because you know, we look at America can't do it

1022
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:54.679
all America is I think it was sixty sixty one

1023
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:59.119
hundred miles away, sixty one hundred miles from the US

1024
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.880
to to uh Taiwan. That is a heck of a

1025
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:07.360
long way to get supplies and missiles and such. And

1026
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:11.280
so that's why we need to rely on our allies. Australia,

1027
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:17.079
the Philippines, the UK, France, Canada, Japan, South Korea like

1028
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.400
all them have invested interest in making sure that China

1029
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.159
doesn't do stupid stuff and you look at this, I

1030
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:31.440
would say especially the Philippines because at the Philippines, the

1031
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.400
Chinese Coast Guard will frequently roll into their their territory

1032
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.760
with their And when I say the Chinese coast Guard,

1033
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.000
people think of the coast Guard and think, oh, they

1034
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.840
go rest rescue people, and it's not necessarily true. The

1035
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.719
Chinese Coast Guard are a bunch of bullies. They go

1036
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.280
around and they they they harass fishing boats. You know,

1037
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.880
they shoot water cannons at fishing boats, They do unsafe

1038
01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.519
navigation to bully people into leaving.

1039
01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.559
So yeah, that.

1040
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.559
You know, the Philippines, if anybody has a vested reason

1041
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:11.320
to to to fight China to make sure that China

1042
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.760
doesn't expand their zone of control. So we have to

1043
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.440
rely on our allies. And I think if if we

1044
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:21.320
rely on if we if we have a strong alliance,

1045
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:27.199
and also if we stand together with Ukraine. Now China

1046
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:31.559
is watching how we respond to the events going on

1047
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.519
in Ukraine. Oh absolutely, and they're going to look at

1048
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:40.880
Ukraine and say, all right, well, these guys didn't support Ukraine.

1049
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:45.599
When there's a freaking rail line connecting Ukraine and Poland.

1050
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:50.519
Why are they going to support Taiwan when Taiwan is

1051
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:54.760
sixty one hundred miles away from everything but China, Right,

1052
01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:04.320
So that I actually see China being a very cognizant

1053
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.079
of what's going on in Ukraine. I actually view how

1054
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:12.400
we find Ukraine to be directly proportional to how China

1055
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:16.280
is going to perceive our resolve if to turn its

1056
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.159
fails and we have to go to war in China.

1057
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:21.199
This is true. And you know, circling back to the

1058
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:25.559
original question while back about how Trump may affect things,

1059
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:27.880
you know, and I'll get into politics, but just in general,

1060
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.239
there's you know, his view of how he handles things.

1061
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.119
He's a wild card. And I think that's what's held

1062
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.719
most things that day, Like people are unsure like will

1063
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:36.320
he pressed the button? Is he really going to do that?

1064
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.199
That they don't know how he would respond. He just

1065
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:42.159
has enough crazy to make people, you know, second guests themselves,

1066
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:46.079
and that might be the X factor, so to speak. Right,

1067
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.639
And it makes complete sense as to why, you know,

1068
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.760
most people are predicting that China made any move, it

1069
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:55.760
might be twenty seven to twenty eight, like they're gonna

1070
01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:00.960
wait this period out, So that having said, though Trump

1071
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.239
has been adamant about not funding Ukraine, is that the

1072
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:06.400
right decision in your mind?

1073
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:11.000
So he might have said that there's things you say

1074
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.840
to get elected, and there's there's things you say when

1075
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:19.679
you actually enter power. And I think that I don't

1076
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.760
recall Trump ever saying he doesn't want to fund Ukraine.

1077
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.239
I know that that he wants Ukraine to pay for

1078
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.480
a lot of weapons systems. Is right now, we're sending

1079
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.599
a lot of weapons systems over that are old, but

1080
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.280
we have to replace anyway. And it's actually cheaper for

1081
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:40.360
us to uh send these old weapons systems over to

1082
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:45.360
another country than it is to actually that it is

1083
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.599
to actually send them back to Raiate. You want to

1084
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.000
get them to milled. So we're actually saving money and

1085
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.599
we're sending old weapons to Ukraine and some things like uh,

1086
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.360
like we were taking M one one three's and we're

1087
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.880
dumping them in the ocean. Yeah, we would. We would

1088
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.320
take all of the fluids out of them and dump

1089
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.760
them in the ocean to create artificial reefs. I like fish.

1090
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.239
I think fish, You're great. It's not a bad idea

1091
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:15.039
to have, you know, an artificial reef. But you know,

1092
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.159
I also kind of think that that we could also

1093
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.440
take these mm one thres and we can send them

1094
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.840
over to Ukraine and you can use them to kick

1095
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.280
the Russians out of their country. We get rid of them,

1096
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.199
Ukraine gets rid of Russia. Everybody wins except the Russians,

1097
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:32.679
which is kind of how it should be, right like that, right, right? Yeah,

1098
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:37.960
that that's the ideal situation there. So you know, when

1099
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.000
it comes to missiles, if we don't fire them, they expire. Eventually.

1100
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:45.360
We need to We need to fire these things if

1101
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.440
we can. There's not enough days in the training calendar

1102
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:49.719
fire all our stuff. So why not send me to

1103
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.719
the Ukraine. Let Ukraine fire these rockets stored Russians. Saves

1104
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:57.719
us the disposal cost, so that at the end of

1105
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:02.679
the day, President Trump is aware of the cost of things,

1106
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:06.760
and you know, he doesn't want to look weak on

1107
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:12.239
the world stage. And I can easily see a situation

1108
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:18.039
happening where, uh, you know, he goes to Putin and says, hey, uh,

1109
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.480
we want peace, and Putin says no, And the next

1110
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:25.199
thing he does is go, Okay, you don't get to

1111
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.320
embarrass me, and he opens up his checkbook in Ukraine

1112
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:29.119
gets whatever they want.

1113
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:30.880
Yeah, I can see that.

1114
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:33.480
I can see that. Yeah, I can see that.

1115
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:34.079
I agree with that.

1116
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:36.440
You know, you don't you don't get you don't get

1117
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.360
to say no to me. I gave you a deal.

1118
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.079
You chose not to accept this deal. So now we're

1119
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:42.119
gonna do things a hard way.

1120
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.679
And that that's exactly his personality, that's who he is. Yeah,

1121
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.360
you know you're not gonna tell him no. He's like no, no, no, no,

1122
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:50.920
this is what's gonna happen. I absolutely agree with that.

1123
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.239
So that was a lot a lot going on in

1124
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.119
the world that you kind of, you know, shed a

1125
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.760
little light on. Uh, let's let's let's dive into another

1126
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.320
topic that I know you talked about before and I've

1127
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.239
been interested in lately just just in my talking to

1128
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.280
more people. But let's talk about ocent like open source intelligence.

1129
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:11.119
What really is it?

1130
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:13.440
Because a lot of people can always say that anyone

1131
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:15.760
could read the news and you know, take multiple sources

1132
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.239
and glean the information and try to, you know, put

1133
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:20.119
two and two together make their own assessments. But what

1134
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.960
separates people like you, for example, and others in your

1135
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.599
field from just the average individual or you know, the

1136
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:29.159
normal guy like me, for example.

1137
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.480
So honestly, I don't want to say not much, but

1138
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:37.960
a lot of It's just it's attention to detail. So

1139
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.079
when it comes to things like open source intelligence, you

1140
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:48.519
are using available open sources to figure out who is

1141
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:51.199
doing what and why. So let's say you want to

1142
01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.840
know how large the Russian army is. There's a couple

1143
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.119
of ways you can do it. One way is to

1144
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.119
go to the Russian army and ask how big are you?

1145
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.199
I'll tell you the truth. Maybe they want right. Nothing

1146
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:08.360
you do is have some spy tell you, hey, we're

1147
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:12.440
recruiting this many people this year. Maybe that's reliable, maybe

1148
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.800
it isn't. But if you know that every Russian recruit

1149
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.159
gets two pairs of boots when they enlist, and Russia

1150
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:23.480
just put out a contract for twenty two hundred thousand boots,

1151
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.239
then you know that Russia is bringing on one hundred

1152
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:30.119
thousand people this year. Right, And so you have these

1153
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.360
little sources all over the place, you can kind of

1154
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.280
grab that information and you can extrapolate from there. Like

1155
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:40.599
people had said that we don't really know the population

1156
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.079
of Russia, the population of Russia is actually half of

1157
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.920
what Russia claims it is, all right, maybe that's true,

1158
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:47.920
maybe it's not. You know how I figure that out?

1159
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:51.400
See how many how many grocery stores do you need

1160
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:56.079
per square mile to feed x amount of people? Right?

1161
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:01.360
Because Russia, well they're not a democracy necessary they are capitalists,

1162
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.440
and that means, you know, if there is a need

1163
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.880
to open a grocery store to serve a population, someone

1164
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.039
will do that. Someone will get the funding, they will

1165
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.840
open a grocery store. Well, one thing we could do,

1166
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.479
we really want to find out the population of Russia.

1167
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:21.640
Let's call let's let's count all the grocery stores in Russia. Yeah,

1168
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.159
you know, if we know that one grocery store can

1169
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.520
serve ten thousand people, how many grocery stores are there? Okay,

1170
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:32.560
now we know the population, all right. So that's that's

1171
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:34.880
kind of another way of doing it. It's it's gathering

1172
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:39.159
this information by using open sources that can reveal all

1173
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:41.079
sorts of things you wouldn't normally expect.

1174
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:43.600
It's really paying attention, like you said, pay attention to

1175
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.079
the details and willing to dive deeper, not just saying, hey,

1176
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.159
I got three sources and now I have a conclusion.

1177
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:50.880
You know, and I think one of the regions that

1178
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:54.960
I've done fairly okay in this field is that I

1179
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:58.119
was a software engineer and one of my specialties was

1180
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.479
finding and fixing bugs. So a lot of that takes

1181
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:07.399
persistence out it. You know, you have to to dig,

1182
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:10.159
and you might dig and dig and dig for weeks.

1183
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.479
You not weeks? Here did it take in weeks? It's

1184
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:17.439
probably too much time, but for days trying to find

1185
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:20.199
the source of a bug, right all right? Where did this?

1186
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.439
Where did this bug come from? And you dig and

1187
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:24.279
you dig, and you dig and you dig, and I

1188
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.199
think kind of that level of persistence has helped me

1189
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:28.279
out quite a bit.

1190
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:31.119
Gotcha, Yeah, And that makes it makes a lot of sense.

1191
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.439
I just I have a I have a fear that

1192
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:38.479
too many people trust those who say that you know,

1193
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:44.720
they're offering offerings, offering their opinions or else's you know,

1194
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.039
call themselves. Some people that are just doing nothing but

1195
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:48.520
regurgitating headlines.

1196
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.039
And I've seen you're regurgitating what you found on telegram.

1197
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.600
That's probably not the best way of doing it. But

1198
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.279
you know what you could do is you could take

1199
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.399
a look at something on telegram and say, okay, does

1200
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:02.359
this make sense from a tactical perspective.

1201
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:04.479
Yeah, no, And that's what I was gonna ask you.

1202
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:08.399
Ryan's how does someone how does someone how's someone able

1203
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:12.640
to know they can trust that particular source, for example,

1204
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:15.640
like that ocent person who's claiming to you, I'm I'm

1205
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.159
the guy, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna explain everything. I'm

1206
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.560
gonna break it down for you. I have the answer,

1207
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.520
how do we know we can trust that person? For example?

1208
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:24.920
What's the best way to.

1209
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.680
See if they're right? You know, you look at their score?

1210
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.960
What is their score of being right to being wrong?

1211
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:34.680
Yeah, okay, simple befairs.

1212
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:36.800
Proof is in the pudding there, right.

1213
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:38.880
You know, we're you talk about how we verify O

1214
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:40.960
some people, it's like, yeah, proof in the pudding. You

1215
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:42.399
know how often they're right?

1216
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:42.800
All that?

1217
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.640
And uh, yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with you. I

1218
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:52.000
just I just see too many people cinging on to disinformation.

1219
01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:54.359
Would I say, clean the surface of information? They just

1220
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:56.800
believe the headline or whatever and whatever's recurd you to

1221
01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.520
and say, Okay, that guy's correct. Here it is and

1222
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.720
that's why I'm believe and that's it. And that's as

1223
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.079
far as I'm gonna go, and then tend to criticize

1224
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.600
others who dig deeper, and somehow call people like you

1225
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.840
or me conspiracy theorists for just asking questions and going

1226
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:11.399
a little further.

1227
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.039
I don't think I've ever been called a conspiracy theorist.

1228
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:18.000
I've been called a CIA shell and I've been called

1229
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.079
I don't I don't know what I'm talking about, and

1230
01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:25.159
somehow both of those things at the same time. You know, like,

1231
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:27.960
all right, either I'm a CIA show or I don't

1232
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.520
know what I'm talking about, which is crazy.

1233
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.079
Give me what is given your background, which you can

1234
01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:35.479
actually verify. It's like, why why would people jump to

1235
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.079
that conclusion about you? You know, it doesn't make sense.

1236
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.039
Well, I think for for a lot of people. So

1237
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:45.359
some people are bots, right, yeah, some people, you know

1238
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:50.520
they look if you're if you're the kind of guy

1239
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.880
who is you get up every day, you go to

1240
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.119
a job that you hate, you uh, work all day,

1241
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:03.640
you come home. You know, it's it's kind of a

1242
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:09.479
conspiracy theory that lays it all out right, this is

1243
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:12.520
why things are the way they are. And you it's

1244
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:16.439
almost like you you want to believe, right, Yeah, you

1245
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:21.560
want to believe that this is true because you know

1246
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:26.239
it's it's it's like imagine like Harry Potter, Like, why

1247
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:31.319
was Harry Potter so popular? Well, you look at Harry Potter,

1248
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:35.880
Who's who's Harry Potter's target audience. It's it's kids, it's teenage,

1249
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.560
you know, young early teens something like that, right, or

1250
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.720
these days adults people who grow up on it out.

1251
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.680
But when you're a child, you don't have any agency.

1252
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.159
You don't even get to decide what you put in

1253
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:52.760
your mouth, right, what you eat. So it's a very

1254
01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:58.079
powerful fantasy to imagine that you're actually a wizard and

1255
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.479
you know more than the grown ups, you know more

1256
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.359
than the adults, you know the truth about how the

1257
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.600
world really works. And that's why Harry Potter was popular.

1258
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.840
So I think a lot of ways conspiracy areas are

1259
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.800
Harry Potter for adults. All Right, you can have this

1260
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.680
fantasy world that only you know about, only you and

1261
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:19.880
your small groups people know about. I know, the actual truth.

1262
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.079
The woll is being pulled over your eyes, right.

1263
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:24.399
Yeah, that that's that's a that's a good way to

1264
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.039
look at it. It's an interesting take on that.

1265
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.760
And yeah, I think that's kind of the that's kind

1266
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:30.880
of the deal.

1267
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:32.600
But then then you got the you get you got

1268
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.920
the other people who they're not necessarily conspiracorist, but they

1269
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:39.079
question like they don't stop qush, Like there's no end

1270
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:42.720
to to their disbelief. It's like, well you said this,

1271
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:44.760
but what if and then what if that?

1272
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:45.439
What if this?

1273
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:47.479
They just keep going and going and going, And at

1274
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.880
some point it's like, well, where's the baseline for you

1275
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:55.159
to believe anything? You know? And it's so it's like

1276
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:56.520
what do you what do you do with people like

1277
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:00.479
that who have who just don't don't trust anything whatsoever.

1278
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:02.560
So it's like what is their truth based on what

1279
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:03.960
what do they believe is to be true?

1280
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:07.800
At some point, Yeah, that's a good question.

1281
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:10.439
It is is there's no answer. I'm sure, it's just

1282
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:12.359
I just brought i thought i'd bring that up because

1283
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:16.760
I do experience that myself, you know, as as we

1284
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.319
both grow in this space, for example, you know, I'm

1285
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:21.680
starting to get out there more and more, and I'm

1286
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.800
experiencing that more and more with people as well. It's like,

1287
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.439
no matter what answer you give, it's never correct. Great,

1288
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:27.960
And then you got the other side where there's a

1289
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.760
conspiracy theorist who's just like, no, you're wrong because X,

1290
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.279
y Z. But then they can't prove it themselves. And

1291
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:37.439
it's just very interesting to be people on this side

1292
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.640
trying to say, look, this is what I found. And

1293
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:41.199
of course, most way I do Ryan will be honest.

1294
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.439
I give you know, I give opinions and whatnot based

1295
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.760
on data that's available and maybe my own life experiences.

1296
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.039
I'll admit that, but I try to never be the

1297
01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:50.560
guy that's just going to tell the lie for the

1298
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:52.960
sake of telling it. I'm not, you know, if look,

1299
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.840
if it grows, I get clicks and lives good, but

1300
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.399
that's not my focus per se. If I could turn

1301
01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:59.800
the career, fine, it'll get there. But at the same time,

1302
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:03.079
I'm not looking to lie to people, and I don't

1303
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:04.960
think I've seen that from you, either from the videos

1304
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.640
I've seen and from the people I've talked to. It's

1305
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.560
just sad that, you know, there are those that are

1306
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:11.960
just out to attack others for the sake of maybe

1307
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:14.079
just not being happy with their own lives where they're at.

1308
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.560
You know, maybe I'm going a bit far and saying that,

1309
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:18.680
but from what I've seen out there, that seems to

1310
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.800
be the case more often than not. I guess I'll

1311
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:22.439
just leave that there.

1312
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:28.239
I've seen. It's probably one of the most interesting things

1313
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:34.159
I've seen, is like people who who believe in UFOs.

1314
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:39.319
I did a whole video about how you know, if

1315
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:44.159
if if UFOs were real, like genuinely honest to God

1316
01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:49.439
reeling aliens and come to the earth, would be dead. Yeah,

1317
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:54.600
it would be dead because the most logical likely thing

1318
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:58.079
to do would be to kill us. And in fact,

1319
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:02.079
I've even said this before, which was like, hey, if

1320
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:07.279
you are, if you if we ever come upon some

1321
01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:12.920
kind of alien species, we need to kill them. You

1322
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.840
know that that might seem like a little extreme, right,

1323
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:20.359
But you know, I don't.

1324
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.279
Think it's extreme. It's it's it's referring to nature, I think,

1325
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:26.880
in and of itself. You know UFOs. Let's let's say aliens,

1326
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:31.479
you know nature part of nature. You know, nature wants

1327
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:37.239
to basically, organisms want to live, and what they want

1328
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:38.840
to do is they want to conquer their environments and

1329
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.479
be you know, the apex predator or the apex species.

1330
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.720
And so I don't think you're wrong in that. I

1331
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.680
mean that that that's a great take because that that

1332
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.760
very well could be could be what the situation would

1333
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.439
be everybody wants to be neither believed. They're just like basically,

1334
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:53.560
these angels, the benevolent beings, were just looking at it

1335
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.840
out for us, trying to guide us in the right direction.

1336
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.520
But yeah, I'm I mean, if if someone's going to

1337
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:01.960
make their way all the way over here, why would

1338
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:04.399
they do that for what resources? If there's resources, they're

1339
01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.119
going to want to take those, and who's in the

1340
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.399
way of that It would be us. So yeah, maybe

1341
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:10.039
'run something there.

1342
01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:15.039
The resource thing doesn't even make that much sense because no,

1343
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.279
because I did a whole video on this where like

1344
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:23.479
the universe, I actually scaled the universe down to the

1345
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:27.760
size of the United States, Okay, and ameer like like

1346
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:32.079
our our solar system is a grain of sand in

1347
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.680
the Wendy's parking lot of Biloxi, Mississippi. We take the

1348
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.960
gy our galaxy, our whole galaxy, the center of the

1349
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:42.479
galaxy is like in somewhere like odin Kansas or something,

1350
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:48.680
and then our actual solar system is three fifths of

1351
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:53.399
a grain of sand in the Wendy's parking lot in Biloxi, Mississippi. Yeah,

1352
01:17:54.279 --> 01:18:01.720
and so any any any group of of aliens that

1353
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.399
wants us for our resources. Well, shoot, if you can

1354
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:09.640
get across the universe, across the galaxy, you can probably

1355
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:12.239
have the tech to make your own resources, right, you

1356
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:16.079
don't need ours, You can make your own stuff. Now,

1357
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:20.680
who'd people come for exploration just to say? All right, like, hey,

1358
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.439
there's this is crazy, dude, there's a bunch of monkeys

1359
01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:25.600
with nuclear weapons.

1360
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:29.640
You can chuck these guys out. Let's fascinated. Let's see

1361
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:33.960
these monkeys with freaking nuclear weapons. We might you know,

1362
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:37.239
you might do that, but but how does that get funded?

1363
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:41.319
Yeah? Like, why why did we colonize the New World? Well,

1364
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.319
initially we're looking for a path to send spices, you know,

1365
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:50.039
go get spices from India? Right, seriously, Right, it was

1366
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.720
a financial There was a financial benefit to go on

1367
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:56.279
and getting spices from India. What's the financial benefit for

1368
01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:57.279
coming to Earth?

1369
01:18:57.399 --> 01:18:59.880
Well? And but that's that's assuming that if there were aliens,

1370
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:04.840
that their system is based on monetary values and gains, Like,

1371
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:08.439
we don't know that, but I do agree the set

1372
01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.720
of one right we're dealing with. I'm gonna agree with

1373
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.159
you on this is here's why I would agree. Why

1374
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.960
would they go all this way to see us? Why

1375
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:21.560
us and why us right that that that's that's the

1376
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:23.520
that's the piece of puzzle that was never that can

1377
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.760
never be explained. Why are we so important? Why would

1378
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:27.199
they be here?

1379
01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:28.479
I don't know.

1380
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.520
I'm not I'm I'm not too into that side of it.

1381
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:33.399
You know, I'm not gonna die. I don't know, UFO

1382
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:38.720
expert or you know whatever. It's almost like, you know,

1383
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.640
bringing up the topic of Bigfoot. Whatever is there possibility? Sure,

1384
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:46.199
anything could be possible. But I mean, after all these years,

1385
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.159
I mean, can you believe that our government is that

1386
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:53.800
good in hiding or keeping the lid on something that long? Maybe?

1387
01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:57.439
I don't know. I mean, like I said, I I

1388
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.520
believe we would be dead. Y if they were genuine,

1389
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:04.479
honest to God aliens, we would be we would be dead.

1390
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:08.039
It would make the most sense to kill us before

1391
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.720
we could present a threat to the galaxy. And that

1392
01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.800
that might be a universal that might be a universal

1393
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:23.680
feeling or a universal trait among all living creatures, because

1394
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:30.680
you know, all living creatures, they they they do two things.

1395
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:37.359
They acquire energy, and they also they they acquire energy

1396
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:42.640
and they reproduce three things. They acquire energy, they reproduce.

1397
01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.760
I've got this is a Spanish inquisition, right, three things,

1398
01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:50.720
They acquire, energy, they reproduce, and they defend themselves. Yeah,

1399
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:54.600
and you know, I can tell you this, if every

1400
01:20:54.680 --> 01:21:00.199
single Native American murdered every single freaking dude coming off

1401
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.800
a boat from Spain back in the fifteen hundreds, like

1402
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.000
there wouldn't have been fourteen fourteen hundreds. Back in the

1403
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:12.439
fourteen hundreds, there wouldn't have been. Things would have worked

1404
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.319
out a lot differently, right they said, you know, these

1405
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:17.720
people coming out were just going to kill them. They

1406
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:19.600
would have sent more boats. They would have killed those

1407
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:23.159
people too, right, And I think things would have looked

1408
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:27.760
a lot different. Now you're getting colonized on your own terms,

1409
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.159
or you're coming into the modern age on your own terms,

1410
01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:34.560
as opposed to on the on the terms of these

1411
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:38.640
invaders just being calmed. So it, Yeah, it would make

1412
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:44.399
more sense to if you come upon a species, to

1413
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.800
wipe them out before they get a chance to do

1414
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.880
that to you. That's most likely what they you know,

1415
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:56.039
because because by the time, look, distances are so far yeah, right,

1416
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.640
And it's easy to say, oh, well, warp drives. Well,

1417
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.399
I mean I can't work with that, right like I

1418
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:05.399
but I can work with, Like if you know, one

1419
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:07.560
of the things that I that I talked about is

1420
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:12.119
that we can use best spectropathy to see to figure

1421
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:17.159
out what's coming out of a planet. Right, we point

1422
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.319
a device at a planet and when a star train

1423
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:23.720
that planet transits, a star light shines through the atmosphere

1424
01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:28.399
that planet. And if we found oxygen on that planet,

1425
01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:31.319
one of the first things we would go is, hold up,

1426
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.760
what the heck's making this oxygen? Because oxygen is super reacting.

1427
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:39.479
If plants, if all the plants died tomorrow, it would

1428
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:42.560
take about six thousand years for all the oxygen on

1429
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:46.760
our planet to essentially react with other things and become

1430
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:50.359
rust Right, they take about six thousand years for no

1431
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:54.720
oxygen to be on this planet, so five six thousand years.

1432
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:59.199
So if we ever saw a planet that was making oxygen,

1433
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:03.520
the next question is what the heck's make all this oxygen? Yeah,

1434
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.720
that's something we might want to go check out, but

1435
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:08.479
whether we have the actual ability to do it is

1436
01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.680
another story. And the funding for something like that, And

1437
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:13.640
you could say, oh, and if there's a hive mind

1438
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.159
and they don't believe in money, well that's in a

1439
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:18.720
way that's even worse because if it's a freaking hive mind,

1440
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.119
that hive mind is probably going to decide we need

1441
01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:24.640
to kill these people before they can kill us. It's

1442
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:28.960
like the dark Forest right during that that the threebody problem. Yeah,

1443
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:32.920
I saw a little bit of freebody problem. We read

1444
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:37.520
the books, watch the Netflix series. It makes absolute sense

1445
01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.119
for the aliens to come to Earth and murder all

1446
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:44.000
of us and take over the planets makes the most sense.

1447
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:48.079
So kind of on that vein circling back to Earth.

1448
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:51.319
As of now, it kind of died down a bit,

1449
01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:55.640
and I don't know whatever happened. What I saw your

1450
01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:57.720
video on your take on what was going on with

1451
01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:00.800
those those drones in the East Coast, New Jersey. Do

1452
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:03.359
you have any more you know now time has pass

1453
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.640
to add to that and what your thoughts were because

1454
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:08.319
you did work in that industry for a while as well.

1455
01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:13.000
Yeah, I mean, my my basic conclusion was that this

1456
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:20.039
was most likely a Red Team event where you're ever

1457
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:25.640
watch Seal Team six Richard Marshenko Red Snell. Yeah, and

1458
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:30.560
Richard Marshenko he had the foresight to like, all right,

1459
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.680
let's think like a terrorist, let's create a team. Well

1460
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.920
he called it Seal Team six. To make everybody believe that,

1461
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:42.239
like there were like five other seal teams, right, so

1462
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:46.319
Seal Team six, you know, they would try to take

1463
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.239
these you know, let's let's try to penetrate this naval base,

1464
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:52.159
see what their defenses are like. And they tell the commander, right,

1465
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.000
this exercise is going on, but they wouldn't necessarily tell

1466
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:58.279
anybody else. So I can easily see a situation where

1467
01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:01.359
someone is red teaming and and the base commander knows it,

1468
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.439
maybe the deputy commander knows that. A couple other people

1469
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.560
might know. They can't say anything because then it would

1470
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:10.119
violate the principles of the exercise, right, you have to

1471
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:14.720
see what people are actually going to do here, So yeah,

1472
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:17.439
I could I think that most likely those drones in

1473
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:20.520
New Jersey, maybe they had a red teaming event and

1474
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:25.039
then everything became drones, like they were seeing helicopters.

1475
01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:27.319
Find Oh yeah, they saw what they wanted to see

1476
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:28.279
at some point, right.

1477
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.479
Yeah, And again it goes back to the whole conspiracy

1478
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:34.039
theory thing of like, well I know the truth I

1479
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:39.039
know about thrones. Here's a real story. And you know

1480
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.079
that was another thing that people said, Oh they're looking

1481
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:46.399
for they're looking for a nuclear device. Yeah, stolen from Ukraine. Like, dude,

1482
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:49.640
any newglar device that was stolen from Ukraine in nineteen

1483
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:53.800
ninety four, You know that thing has gone through multiple

1484
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:59.840
tritium cycles. That thing has the plutonium degrades over time,

1485
01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:04.600
where like you know, plutonium decays is a naturally decaying

1486
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:08.000
radioactive isotope, and so you have these little pockets of

1487
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.520
helium inside the plutonium. That's why you periodically have to

1488
01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:14.479
re manufacture the plutonium and get all those those helium

1489
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:21.640
bubbles out. The explosives that surround the pit those decay

1490
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:25.720
or those have to be maintained. The batteries have to

1491
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:27.840
be changed. And you could say, oh, what if they

1492
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.800
took it to a Soviet scientist and they're former Soviet scientists, Like, look, dude,

1493
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.359
my kid would have to be really freaking sick to

1494
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:42.279
take money to go work on a nuclear device, because

1495
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:43.159
they will find you.

1496
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:49.319
Right Like, they will find you, like we found the

1497
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:55.119
dude who shot the CEO from from United Healthcare super quick.

1498
01:26:55.439 --> 01:27:03.199
Like if that dude went and shot like some random stranger, No, oh,

1499
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:05.359
that's New York. You know what do you want? You know,

1500
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:09.479
it's Bryce living in New York. Right, you go shoot

1501
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:14.479
the CEO of the healthcare company. We'll find you. Right. So,

1502
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:18.760
if you're a scientist who's try who use the tools

1503
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:21.800
and materials, plus like the tools and materials to make

1504
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:25.760
this stuff re manufactured stuff, they're not exactly available in

1505
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:28.560
the open market, right, You're not going you're not going

1506
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:29.960
to home depot and picking this stuff up.

1507
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:30.880
Oh hell yeah.

1508
01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:34.119
So there was that, and there was also the fact

1509
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:37.359
that physics is physics, Like, as you get from the

1510
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.680
inverse square law, double the distance, the radiation goes down

1511
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:42.680
by half. So if you're looking for something on a

1512
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.880
drone trying to use the detector, looking for a radioactive

1513
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.199
looking for radiation, uh, you're gonna have to be pretty

1514
01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:54.760
darn close to that source because the further you are

1515
01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.520
up in the air, the more that radiation spreads out

1516
01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:02.039
and the less likely order to detect that. Now a

1517
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:05.680
lot of these weapons are shielded because you don't want

1518
01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:08.479
the people handling these weapons to get sick, exactly right,

1519
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:10.680
So there is shielding in there. And even if it

1520
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:16.359
was unshielded, like, dude, the fastest way to find that weapon,

1521
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:18.720
if it was unshielded, would be to put police officers

1522
01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:21.319
at all the hospitals because sooner or later, some dude's

1523
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:23.159
going to come out with radiation sickness and the doctors

1524
01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:25.399
might not even know what the hell it is. Why

1525
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.800
is this dude sick like this? Because how many doctors

1526
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:29.159
have seen radiation sickness?

1527
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:29.479
Right?

1528
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.720
Feel like someone presenting with you know, there there's a

1529
01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:37.479
term in medicine horses not zebras, when someone shows up

1530
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.880
with the condition. You you know, if you're in America

1531
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:42.880
and you hear hoof beats behind you, or you're going

1532
01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:44.319
to think it's a horse, or you're going to think

1533
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:47.079
it's a zebra. Right, probably I think it's a horse.

1534
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.279
You know, if some dude presents with radiation sickness, you

1535
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.199
might not even recognize that. You might say, oh, this guy,

1536
01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:56.760
you know, that's why you ask questions, have you traveled

1537
01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.560
outside the country? Have you done this? Have you done that?

1538
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:01.560
They're narrowing it down their head with this problem could

1539
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:07.600
be right, So, yeah, there was that, and the other

1540
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.359
thing was someone else and this this happened at a

1541
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:17.760
bad time. Someone claimed that a radioactive pin source was stolen,

1542
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.680
and a pin source, it's like that, it's a little

1543
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.039
thing that you used to calibrate hospital equipment. You know,

1544
01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.640
so if you're doing like barium treatments, right, and there's

1545
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:30.800
a radioactive detector that looks at the barium going through

1546
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:33.840
your system, you'd use a radioactive pin source on that

1547
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.520
thing to make sure. Okay, yeah, this thing is reading correctly,

1548
01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:41.079
let's go to the Now. Apparently a radioactive pin source

1549
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:45.439
that I guess was headed toward disposal got lost, and

1550
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:48.159
now it's oh, they're looking for this thing. Could this

1551
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:50.039
be used in a dirty bomb? Like, dude, it's a

1552
01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:55.159
pin source, don't eat it. It's fine, I could have

1553
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:59.239
it right here, fine, right, Like it's not like that's funny.

1554
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:01.960
But you know, some of that goes back to like,

1555
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:05.520
oh my god, radiation, Like people are afraid of radiation.

1556
01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.159
You shouldn't be. If you're afraid of radiation, don't fly anywhere.

1557
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:15.960
Pilots get juiced up, Like if the average pilot, I

1558
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:22.119
think the average average rat worker, I think they're allowed

1559
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:29.560
five ren a year, all right, And pilots like getting

1560
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:33.159
a chest X ray, Yeah, I think that's like, uh,

1561
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:37.000
it's five thousand mili ren for a chest X ray, right,

1562
01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:41.000
So if you get like twenty five chest X rays

1563
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:44.399
it's the math wrong there. But if you get a

1564
01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:46.359
certain amount of chest X rays like that would be

1565
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:48.760
you wouldn't be able to work on a nuclear plant, gotcha.

1566
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:50.920
Yeah, So the.

1567
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:53.920
Pilots due just because they're flying, you know, in the

1568
01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:57.159
atmosphere and there there's less atmosphere up there, and they're

1569
01:30:57.159 --> 01:30:59.399
getting hit with X rays and they're getting hit stuff

1570
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:03.039
from space. You know, they get they get juiced up.

1571
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:06.359
I'm actually surprised pilots don't have to carry dose simitters.

1572
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:08.960
See how much dose they're getting. They get more radiation

1573
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:11.119
than the nuclear worker pilots.

1574
01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:12.039
Center.

1575
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.640
Now, don't lie anywhere, don't have granite countertops in your home.

1576
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:16.560
They give off radiation.

1577
01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:17.119
Well, yeah they do.

1578
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.479
Don't eat a banana, yeah, you know, well.

1579
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:23.199
Everything gives off a certain level of radiation.

1580
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:27.199
They have a potassium Oh my god, if you're the

1581
01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:32.720
darn isotope. But yeah, bananas are mildly radioactive, just naturally

1582
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:33.680
from the potassium.

1583
01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:39.600
And yeah, what's what's the drum thing? The drum thing?

1584
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.760
I'm with you on this. I don't think it's anything.

1585
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:45.119
I'm not sure it was anything in the fairs. I

1586
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:49.199
I just think it was our government doing testing for

1587
01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:51.399
whatever reasons they needed to testing, you know, the people

1588
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:53.840
wanted to see what they wanted to see. Eventually just

1589
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:57.479
got out of control. What let's let's tie this back

1590
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:02.560
to Matthew Laviisberger. His that the alleged communication, which some

1591
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:04.640
people say was true, some don't. You're still digging into

1592
01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:09.000
that yourself. So what about those claims in that letter

1593
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:13.239
about these being some advanced propulsion technology that are Chinese,

1594
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:17.039
you know, off being launched from a submarine in the Atlantic.

1595
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:18.840
What do you think all that?

1596
01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:28.479
So the question is like in typically in the intelligence world,

1597
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:32.399
if you have a security clearance, you only get access

1598
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:38.319
to stuff that you need to know about, right your job. Compartmentalization, environmentalization,

1599
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.239
I mean the the s c I and t S

1600
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:46.119
s c I means top secret, sensitive compartmentalized information. So

1601
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:50.640
if I'm finding bad guys in the hornet of Africa,

1602
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:55.359
I don't know anything about drug cartels in Mexico. Okay,

1603
01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.079
that's just not I don't need to know that. I'm

1604
01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:00.439
not going to access that information. I want to know

1605
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:04.119
about it. So if you're a Special Forces dude, the

1606
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.119
email is kind of weird because he's talking about Afghanistan

1607
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:11.960
and he's talking about Chinese boats and launching drones. And

1608
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.039
you know I've said this before, like if there was

1609
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:17.600
a Chinese submarine launching drones, the Coast Guard would be

1610
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:22.000
all over that. All over they love like they love

1611
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.399
finding Narco submarines. This would be a feather in their

1612
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.600
cap that never have to buy a drink again, right right,

1613
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:31.920
And and there was other weird stuff like it can

1614
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:36.000
have like infinite carrying capacity like no, I can't dude,

1615
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:41.000
like lift thrust weight and drag dud same that. So

1616
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:45.520
you know, again you kind of have to go with

1617
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:51.399
most likely. And you know it is not very likely

1618
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:56.159
that someone who was in Germany doing Special Forces stuff

1619
01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:00.479
would have any knowledge of especially in E eight. You know,

1620
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:04.079
if you're a if you're an E eight, a master

1621
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:10.439
sergeant in the army, even in special Forces, you're a hitter,

1622
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:13.640
you're a door kicker. You're a really good door kicker.

1623
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:17.279
You might work with the targeting cell once in a while,

1624
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:20.279
you know, to get experience on something, or because they

1625
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.319
need bodies, or because it generally affects the outcome of

1626
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:26.880
an operation. But you're not dealing with Chinese submarines. It's

1627
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:28.439
not really an Army.

1628
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:33.239
Right right, it's unlikely you come across that intel, correct.

1629
01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.920
Yeah, that would be that would be somewhat difficult to

1630
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.399
come across that information. So you know, it's it's uh,

1631
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:43.760
it's one of those things that that that kind of

1632
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:46.199
activates like this smells.

1633
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:50.479
Funny, gotcha. Yeah, And this is the idea of you know,

1634
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:55.479
anybody getting that close to our coastline, like within that

1635
01:34:56.199 --> 01:34:59.720
that distance, how we would not detect that. I kind

1636
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:02.439
of yeah, I find it hard to believe personally.

1637
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:06.720
Yeah, I know that we had a network or probably

1638
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.600
still have a network called soosis, which are underground sensors

1639
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:14.720
that go between the g I UK gap Greenland, Iceland,

1640
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.600
United Kingdom that gap, so we can detect any Russian

1641
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:23.000
submarines coming out of their bastions, which they rarely ever

1642
01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:26.199
do anyway, Russian submarines essentially never leave the Kerosee. It

1643
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.760
was a big deal when Russian submarines went down to

1644
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:33.840
one Russian submarine went down to Cuba for training exercise.

1645
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:36.199
Like I'm sure the guys in N. A. S. Jacksonville

1646
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:40.279
are having a hell of a time using their their

1647
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.119
using their oh my god, their pa Poseidon's you know,

1648
01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:49.239
tracking the submarine. I'm sure they I'm sure they had

1649
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:52.239
a party, you know, getting all sorts of date on

1650
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:57.800
this submarine as it traveled. I tend to stay away

1651
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.640
from naval topics because I just don't know as much

1652
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:02.760
about them. But I'm sure we have some sort of

1653
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:07.119
underground network that detect submarines, or at least could detect

1654
01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:09.880
certain kinds of contacts, and we send something to investigate.

1655
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.720
So the the odds of a Chinese submarine sitting off

1656
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:16.960
the East coast is near zero.

1657
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:20.359
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I find it

1658
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:23.760
a little hard to believe that we wouldn't know, we

1659
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:24.239
would know.

1660
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.199
It's not let me put that different way. The odds

1661
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:32.520
of Chinese submarine sitting off the East coast is a

1662
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.239
roughly even chance. It is likely that China has the

1663
01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:41.600
capability to do that, and it is open, what do

1664
01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:44.079
you call it, the international water? You can sail wherever

1665
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:46.680
you want. You want to park a Chinese submarine the

1666
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:50.000
international water. It's knock yourself on, all right, yeah, sure

1667
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:52.840
do it. Well, we'd love to train against you, you know.

1668
01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:57.119
So it's certainly it's certainly possible that a Chinese submarine

1669
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:00.000
could be there. But we would almost certainly know about it.

1670
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.399
That That's what That's basically was my point I was

1671
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:05.680
trying to make. I guess it was we would have

1672
01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:07.880
known at some point. We would have definitely known it

1673
01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:11.640
was there. It wouldn't have just gone undetected. So and

1674
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.520
again I I'm with you. I I don't know enough

1675
01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.399
about how the Navy works or you know, what they use,

1676
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.880
but I find it highly unlikely that such a well

1677
01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:24.560
funded military such as ours would not have the capability

1678
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.520
to detect a presence out there.

1679
01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:30.800
Oh we would be so, we would be so on that.

1680
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:32.279
Yeah, that's all.

1681
01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:40.199
I We would have so much fun. Seriously, Like it's

1682
01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:43.439
it's such a great training opportunity, right and like you know,

1683
01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:48.079
sometimes like people are getting bored, you know, like why not,

1684
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:52.600
you know, why not use this as a training opportunity.

1685
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:57.319
I mean, they're there right as well, let's take this opportunity. Well,

1686
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:01.359
I'm gonna start wrapping up because I'm sure you're very busy.

1687
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.680
I got a few meetings and really quick though, I'm

1688
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:07.279
gonna ask you what is your go to cigar these days?

1689
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:07.960
What are you into?

1690
01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:13.159
Well? Right now I'm smoking a bone bone shaker, but

1691
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:17.760
I like the Camacho reds. Yeah, yeah, the red Camachas.

1692
01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:23.840
But part of us black label, partake us black labels

1693
01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:29.800
of these little ones, and especially because you know, I like,

1694
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.479
I recognize, like I need to smoke less. Yeah, as

1695
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:38.199
I love smoking, And you know, part of one of

1696
01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:41.880
the nice parts of these is I can write a

1697
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:43.640
lot of time. Like I spent a good portion by

1698
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:47.239
a day writing scripts. So I'll write and I'll smoke

1699
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:52.079
and I don't even notice I'm smoking out and I'll

1700
01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:55.199
just keep going, going and going. So yeah, that's probably

1701
01:38:55.359 --> 01:38:57.359
the part of US black label, which I love. The

1702
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:02.319
tiny ones. I actually can't get them in Maryland anymore because, yeah,

1703
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:07.279
Maryland banned the sale of small cigars. I guess they're

1704
01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:09.760
trying to do it to prevent like the black and

1705
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:15.960
Miles being used as mariandeh, that's ridiculous. But these, since

1706
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.119
these are so small, I guess you know, they fall

1707
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:19.079
under that rule.

1708
01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:20.359
They're not that small.

1709
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:23.279
And I didn't even know it. I tried to order

1710
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:29.359
on and I I was Maryland. Well, thank god, there's

1711
01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:32.439
this girl I know in Virginia Beach and once in

1712
01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:36.239
a while I go down to see her, and uh,

1713
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:37.680
you know, I stay at her place. I was there

1714
01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:40.680
for like two weeks. Actually, it's one of the reasons

1715
01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:42.960
I came back up here. It's kind of overstraining my welcome.

1716
01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:47.039
And it was about the snow, and uh, I was like, shoot,

1717
01:39:47.079 --> 01:39:50.359
I need to I need to leave, but I'll order cigars.

1718
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:52.079
I'll have them sent there, I'll pick them up there.

1719
01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:56.039
I'll order the mini tins there. You know that's that's

1720
01:39:56.119 --> 01:40:00.159
that's something I guess. I was, Uh, yeah, I got us.

1721
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:03.199
And the red camachoson Scheggers are pretty good too. I

1722
01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:03.479
like this.

1723
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:05.760
Yeah, it's it's sad that that that they're trying to

1724
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.239
more and more limit the sales of cigars and the

1725
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:10.239
enjoyment of them is it's I mean, I know we're

1726
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:11.840
going off topic here, but it's like, I don't know

1727
01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:14.560
if you ever listen to Cigar David at all, but

1728
01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:17.439
he has this whole thing he always he always calls

1729
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:20.359
them the pleasure police, you know how they're always going

1730
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:22.039
out of their way to make sure that you know,

1731
01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:25.640
they're just taking these little, little, little, you know, little

1732
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:28.640
pieces of enjoyment away from us. And it's not like

1733
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:31.880
they're harming anyone except you know, maybe maybe ourselves. If that,

1734
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:35.119
but yeah, I'm kind of like, uh, I've been going

1735
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.439
I've been more and more into the ole mech lately

1736
01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.760
by Foundation cigars, So I've been going that direction a

1737
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:42.199
lot more. And of course I've always always enjoyed a padrone,

1738
01:40:42.239 --> 01:40:46.960
but not always affordable. But but yeah, I've been big

1739
01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:50.680
on the olmecs. Before we sign off, though, I know

1740
01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:52.520
you have a book, So let's let's talk about your book.

1741
01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:54.680
Let's tell people how they can get you know, seriously,

1742
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:56.680
you know, go ahead, pitch your stuff. Why not?

1743
01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:01.920
You're here, you know, Yeah, So I uh so I

1744
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:05.159
a couple of months ago, I guess it was last year,

1745
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.399
someone said, Ryan, you know, you need to write a book,

1746
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.279
and I was like, I don't know how to write

1747
01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:14.880
a book. You know, I'm not a writer. So I

1748
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:19.399
wrote a short story called Warlock, which is about an

1749
01:41:19.479 --> 01:41:22.279
Irish traveler who has like a little bit of magic,

1750
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:24.319
but kind of like magic in the sense of like

1751
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:26.439
he can tell who's in a house before he robs it,

1752
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:28.720
kind of thing like is this a good house to rub?

1753
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:33.199
And after the terrorist sacks nine eleven, the FBI contacts

1754
01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:35.079
him and asks him to help find a song bin Laden,

1755
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:39.479
which he does gotcha? And so I wrote that short

1756
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:42.960
story and sold really well. People actually bought it. I'm like, Okay,

1757
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:46.560
maybe there's something here. So then I started writing a

1758
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:49.800
book called The wind Machine, which was about I should

1759
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.439
have it right here, but I have it over there.

1760
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:53.800
The wind Machine, the candy cane strep thing you can

1761
01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.359
find on Amazon and audible if you're a marine, want

1762
01:41:56.359 --> 01:42:01.079
to listen to it? And I I was thinking, like,

1763
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:03.800
I work in the AI space, at least I used

1764
01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:06.680
to work in the I space. I was like, you know, like,

1765
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:09.520
wouldn't it be neat if there was a guy who

1766
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:13.119
had an AI computer, Like, if you knew there was

1767
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:16.159
going to be a war, you might be able to

1768
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:21.399
buy stocks, right, you know and game the market, right right? Well,

1769
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:24.520
what if there is a guy who found out there

1770
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:28.039
was going to be a nuclear war between the US

1771
01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:32.119
and China? Would you game? Would you try to put

1772
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:35.439
the limited nuclear exchange limited nuclear exchange in the US

1773
01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:38.359
and China? Would you try to make money off it?

1774
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:42.520
Or would you try to warn the government? And then

1775
01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.039
that kind of gets into all, right, well, how do

1776
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:48.239
you warn the government. There's no hotline? You can call

1777
01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:51.439
it the Pentagon, right, And plus if you do tell

1778
01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:53.960
the Pentagon, hey, I have a supercomputer that picked stocks

1779
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.680
almost perfectly. You do tell the government that the next

1780
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:01.079
person you speak to is the SEC Security Exchange Commission,

1781
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.720
who will then put you out of business because you

1782
01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:08.279
have a you know, an unfair advantage. So now what

1783
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:10.560
do you do? That's kind of the question of the novel.

1784
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:14.119
It's it's essentially the responsible use of AI. Like the

1785
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:18.039
plot is about the plot is essentially what if doctor

1786
01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:23.680
Strange ran a hedge fund? But the theme is the

1787
01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:29.079
responsible use of AI. And uh so it's crazy, is uh?

1788
01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:29.439
You know?

1789
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:33.920
People love the book and I actually I ran my

1790
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.359
book through AI and what I found was like eighty

1791
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:43.319
percent of the book is meetings, meetings, meetings, like like

1792
01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:46.560
literally like people in a conference room having a meeting.

1793
01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:50.159
Like I somehow like I made a book about meetings,

1794
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.920
and it's exciting. That's funny, you know, like people love it,

1795
01:43:54.279 --> 01:43:59.840
like of a meeting, but people like, they freaking love

1796
01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:03.479
the book and they I've had people say it's Ryan

1797
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.000
is the new Tom Clancy. Ryan. I have one guy's

1798
01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:07.520
na Ryan is better than Clancy.

1799
01:44:08.199 --> 01:44:08.399
Wow?

1800
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:15.920
And uh, in no way, uh, in no way disparaging.

1801
01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:19.399
Jack Carr but you read something like the Terminal List.

1802
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:23.680
It's about like special Forces, and everybody in the Terminal

1803
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:26.680
List is good at their jobs, like the best. I'm

1804
01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:30.159
the best sniper, I'm the best pilot, I'm a cross fitter,

1805
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:33.479
and I'm a whatever, you know, like I'm the best

1806
01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:38.840
whatever ever brother. And then yeah, and now it's like

1807
01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:44.039
it's the fifth book and freaking and now, uh god,

1808
01:44:44.119 --> 01:44:47.479
what's his name? Kyle Reese. It's like the fifth book

1809
01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:49.640
and Kyle Reese is thought that dude would be dead,

1810
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:52.640
and I know what, I know what Jack Carr is doing.

1811
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:55.760
He he likes James Bond, and he's like, I need

1812
01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:59.439
James Bond, right, James Bond can't die. And that's the

1813
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:04.439
interesting thing about these books is that is it's that

1814
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.560
you're what you know, Kyle Reese is going to be

1815
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:10.199
fine at the end. So now in the beginning book,

1816
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:11.640
you didn't know that you thought he had a brain

1817
01:45:11.720 --> 01:45:11.960
to him.

1818
01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:13.960
It's all about the journey, right, It's.

1819
01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:17.960
All about the journey. Yeah, tro what I wanted to

1820
01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:22.640
do was a book a perfectly normal dude. Run Ahead's

1821
01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:26.399
fun was in the army, but he's not like you know,

1822
01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:30.079
he was in the Army thirty years ago. Right, Yeah,

1823
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:36.239
he's not some special forces dude. He doesn't know anything anymore.

1824
01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:40.520
He was a finance officer, right, didn't do a damn thing.

1825
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:45.239
But he's thrust into this situation. He's thinking, like, you know,

1826
01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:50.159
I was in Afghanistan. It sucked to see people fall

1827
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:53.000
off the plaine in Afghanistan. What if we could give

1828
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:55.520
this information to the government, we could stop this war

1829
01:45:56.560 --> 01:46:01.680
or prevent it or win it. And then the scary

1830
01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:04.000
thing becomes like, if you had a machine that could

1831
01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:10.159
win wars, what's stopping you from starting a war? Right?

1832
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:15.640
Just guaranteed to win? Right? So yeah, that was kind

1833
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:17.560
of the path that I took with that book. And

1834
01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:20.119
people seem to freaking love it. So yeah, it's on Amazon,

1835
01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:23.840
wind Machine, paperback, and Kindle and on audible.

1836
01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:25.760
And then can they get it from you directly to

1837
01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:26.840
through your website?

1838
01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.199
Oh well it's on I can't get a director from

1839
01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:31.840
me for my website. I do have signed copies available

1840
01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:37.119
at Bunker Branding. I have all my merch I signed

1841
01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:39.399
fifty of them. They sold out in three days. They

1842
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.479
actually sold fifty six. By accident. I have to I

1843
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:44.960
ordered like six more books to be sent to me

1844
01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:47.920
so I could sign them with gotcha, like a special

1845
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:51.000
note for these patient people. Then I've sent a bunker

1846
01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:52.880
branding and I'm going to do another run of fifty

1847
01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:57.119
because fan love them and I'm kind of a I

1848
01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.199
priced everything as low as the other funny thing I

1849
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:02.119
found out, Like I was thinking, like, oh, I'm going

1850
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.199
to price this as low as possible so as many

1851
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:06.439
people want to read it. What I found was that

1852
01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:10.840
like if I do that, like you barely make I

1853
01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:14.159
barely make any money. Like a on a seventeen ninety

1854
01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.920
nine book, I make like four dollars.

1855
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:20.760
Yeah, after like everything, there's not a lot of markup

1856
01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:21.720
or margin on these things.

1857
01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:23.840
There's not audio.

1858
01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:26.000
It's a volume game, right Yeah.

1859
01:47:26.119 --> 01:47:32.479
And audiobooks are even worse. Really, however, audiobooks sales are crazy, like.

1860
01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:34.920
Like with.

1861
01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:39.960
Because I guess more people, at least more men, they

1862
01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:44.000
listen to audiobooks than they do reading. And so now

1863
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:47.640
it's like you put out an audiobook, nothing just sits

1864
01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:49.960
there and it makes money. It's not a lot of money,

1865
01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:52.760
but there's a lot of volume. I think.

1866
01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:55.760
I think it's the same reason podcast got so popular.

1867
01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.119
It's just you know, people busy. A lot of people

1868
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:00.760
commute depending on where you live, you know, there's a

1869
01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:01.640
lot of time on the road.

1870
01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:02.199
Uh.

1871
01:48:02.680 --> 01:48:05.560
For example, salespeople, if you work on the trades, you know,

1872
01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:07.640
you're swinging hammers, whatever, if you're if you're if you're

1873
01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:09.760
by yourself as an electrician, whatever, you know, you're what

1874
01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:11.439
you're doing. Just you know, you put your earbuds on

1875
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:13.359
and you just you got something going. You can hear

1876
01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:16.079
a conversation, get some information. I think that's probably what

1877
01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:20.039
attributed you know, what's attributed to the popularity and audiobooks,

1878
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:20.399
for sure.

1879
01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:21.680
I've tried.

1880
01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:25.319
I'm over read, like I like reading the word, I

1881
01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:27.359
like paper I'm one of those people, you know. I

1882
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.199
don't know if I'm just nostalgic, but I can never

1883
01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:32.800
I can never pick up my iPad, for example. I

1884
01:48:33.079 --> 01:48:35.600
tried this, and I'll download some books and I'll try

1885
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.039
to read them, and it just puts me to sleep.

1886
01:48:37.039 --> 01:48:38.880
There's something about me trying to stare at a screen.

1887
01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:41.479
It doesn't have the same feel you know to me.

1888
01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:45.199
Kindle, the Kindle. I buy everything on Kindle now. I

1889
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:47.159
very rarely buy paper books anymore.

1890
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:48.119
You know.

1891
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:49.800
I think what I like about the Kindle is that

1892
01:48:50.319 --> 01:48:52.880
I can switch from because I I do I know,

1893
01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:54.479
I don't look at but I need two hours in

1894
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.960
the treadmill every day, in five miles every day, all right,

1895
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:03.119
some some walking, you know, walk ron walk, and I

1896
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:08.159
typically read while i'm when I'm on the treadmill a

1897
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:10.399
peloton and I have the Kindle lap on it and

1898
01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.319
I can. So people ask me like, how do you

1899
01:49:13.399 --> 01:49:15.960
know so much stuff? Because I don't play video games

1900
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:16.840
and I read all the time.

1901
01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:18.640
Yeah, you're consuming information all the time.

1902
01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.720
Yeah, I'm consuming information like literally all the time. And

1903
01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:25.000
there isn't like a blank spot in my day. There's

1904
01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:27.800
actually there is a video I bought. It's two years ago.

1905
01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:32.760
I bought an Xbox just to do a video about Starfield,

1906
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:35.279
like how to improve the AI in the video game Starfield.

1907
01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:39.840
So on Xbox, I got Starfield, I played Starfield. I

1908
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:42.079
figured out how we could actually improve the AI in

1909
01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.199
Starfield because people were posting about Starfield or the AI

1910
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:48.880
was bad. And I actually released a version of how

1911
01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:51.079
to make Starfield better, how to make the AI better

1912
01:49:51.119 --> 01:49:54.520
and more realistic. And then I found out there's a

1913
01:49:54.600 --> 01:50:00.199
new game called Alien's Dark Descent, and up there I

1914
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:04.279
have a picture of Drake and Vasquez from Aliens. It's

1915
01:50:04.319 --> 01:50:06.880
like a painting that scene when they were with the

1916
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:10.640
smart guns on this ship and Aliens. And I think

1917
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.399
I wanted to become a soldier because of that movie Aliens.

1918
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:15.479
I wanted to become a heavy weapons guy, machine gun.

1919
01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.399
I'm a big fan of that Alien saga personally.

1920
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:22.479
Yeah, And like that video game is available, I'm like,

1921
01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:26.560
I want to play that, But I'm also like, with

1922
01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:27.359
what time?

1923
01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:30.960
So that's my That's been my thing with video games.

1924
01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:32.960
I'm not a post to them. I just I get

1925
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:37.000
bored after a while. Like I'm very I've always in

1926
01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:38.319
my mind, I got shit to do. I got there's

1927
01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:41.640
other things, you know. Maybe I haven't a tension deficit thing.

1928
01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.880
I have no idea, but I want to move on.

1929
01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.039
After a while, I'm like, Okay, I've done this, What's next?

1930
01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:48.640
You know? I can't I can't sit there for that long.

1931
01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:51.279
But I like it when I'm playing them. I I

1932
01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:53.279
don't do it anymore. I mean, I have an old

1933
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:56.159
Xbox three sixty that's I can't even use any more anyway,

1934
01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:58.239
It's up in the closet. I don't even use it.

1935
01:50:58.239 --> 01:50:59.720
Me and my brother and my nephew, they are big

1936
01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:03.399
on them, but I just can't. For some reason, I

1937
01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:03.840
just can't.

1938
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:08.960
I mean it's you know, it's yeah, I don't begarudge

1939
01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:12.520
anybody who who likes to play video games. No, no,

1940
01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:16.960
me neither. Yeah, there is there is a consequence because

1941
01:51:17.079 --> 01:51:20.399
like if you I've said this to people before, people,

1942
01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:23.840
how could I do what you do? Well, stop playing

1943
01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:26.680
video games and start reading books. I need to read

1944
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:31.119
books about every single subject because, like I've there there

1945
01:51:31.159 --> 01:51:33.760
are times when I've like someone has said something and went,

1946
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:36.199
wait a minute, that isn't correct. I remember the book

1947
01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:40.199
I read it from, Like I go make a video like, no,

1948
01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:43.960
this person's wrong, that's not because I read this thing

1949
01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:45.000
back in whatever.

1950
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.039
And yeah, we had we had a we had a

1951
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:50.800
friend of the family, my dad's friend when he was

1952
01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:52.920
he was working at this company, his boss. He was

1953
01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:56.159
World War two vet, and I remember him. We used

1954
01:51:56.159 --> 01:51:58.000
to go to his house ald times. Kids. It's almost

1955
01:51:58.039 --> 01:52:00.840
like a pretty much like a family member. And he

1956
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:04.760
had this huge library, like huge library, and somehow I

1957
01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:08.680
gravitated towards that. And he had all these books on

1958
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:12.439
strategy and war and generals and you name it. Everything,

1959
01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:14.680
and I just I just soaked all that stuff up.

1960
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:16.920
And when he passed away, he left me his library.

1961
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:17.840
I ended up with all of that.

1962
01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:20.079
It was it was tons of books, tons of books.

1963
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:22.720
It was amazing. And you know what's crazy is what

1964
01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:26.479
I found through the years though. There was some publications

1965
01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:29.840
that he had from way back that when I revisited,

1966
01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:33.279
let's say, the revised versions or whatever, some of the

1967
01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:35.359
information was changed or taken out. And I never thought

1968
01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:37.039
that was a thing. I always thought that was just like, ah,

1969
01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:40.359
that was bullshit, conspiracy. But over time, some of this

1970
01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:43.760
information was rewritten and it was not the same, and

1971
01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:46.840
I noticed that it was really really weird, and you know,

1972
01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:49.000
this could be another rabbit hole we could dive down later,

1973
01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:52.279
but I'm just I personally saw that and I was

1974
01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:53.840
I was really, I was really shocked.

1975
01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:54.159
I didn't.

1976
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:56.239
I was like, wow, why would they change that? Why

1977
01:52:56.279 --> 01:53:00.439
would they want to you know, alter that information? Yeah,

1978
01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:02.560
you know, I have no idea why, but it does happen.

1979
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.720
It does happen. So it's like, over time, how can

1980
01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:08.560
we always rely on that information, you know, as it

1981
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:13.199
gets revised and rewritten. After all, the book I'm listening

1982
01:53:13.239 --> 01:53:13.920
to right.

1983
01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:16.800
Now about the Apollo program. Yeah, and I think the

1984
01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:21.600
book was originally written in the nineteen eighties, and they

1985
01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:24.640
said right up front in the in the audiobook that

1986
01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:28.800
we changed this stuff because, like, everybody has a computer now,

1987
01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:30.920
so we no longer have to at your plaint what

1988
01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:33.359
a computer is, right, So we cut that out. We also,

1989
01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:37.680
you know, there were things that that it was weird

1990
01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:40.399
just seeing like you know, I'm old enough to remember

1991
01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:44.239
smoking on an airplane. Yeah, right, like that was and

1992
01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:46.680
it is kind of weird when you watch something like

1993
01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:52.079
Apollo thirteen. I wonder if Apollo thirteen could even get

1994
01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:56.840
made today accurately. I don't know. Is the second question

1995
01:53:56.880 --> 01:54:02.560
light up a cigarette, you get an R rating true? True?

1996
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:06.479
So like could you even make Apaulla thirteen today? That's

1997
01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:09.880
that's a pretty interesting question. Probably we do, right, rewrite

1998
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:12.199
history to modern sensibilities.

1999
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:14.039
Yeah, we do, unfortunately, I mean I think we'll just

2000
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:16.479
let it be how it is. I mean, it's it's

2001
01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:18.319
a way to you know, you're just it's a way

2002
01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:20.239
to look back at how things were and you can

2003
01:54:20.359 --> 01:54:22.000
learn from that and not saying you have to repeat it,

2004
01:54:22.119 --> 01:54:23.479
but hey, this is how it was.

2005
01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:25.760
Deal with it. That's all there is to it.

2006
01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:29.520
That's what That's what I think. It's ridiculous. You know

2007
01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:32.520
what I'm gonna I'm gonna have to end it. I'm sorry, Ryan,

2008
01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:33.199
I gotta go.

2009
01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:34.800
I like talking to you.

2010
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:36.359
Man, You're You're great. This is fun.

2011
01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:37.680
I hope you can do it.

2012
01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:40.880
Yeah, no, seriously no, but I thank you for your patience.

2013
01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:43.960
I really apologize about that technical bs I I don't

2014
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.640
know what happened there. I'll do my best pieces together.

2015
01:54:48.079 --> 01:54:50.079
I want people to support you. Go to your YouTube channel,

2016
01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:52.039
appreciate your time. Hopefully I can do this with you

2017
01:54:52.079 --> 01:54:53.960
again some you know, down the road. I'm sure you

2018
01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:57.600
know you're busy, but hope, let's stay connected please, that'd

2019
01:54:57.640 --> 01:55:01.279
be awesome. And yeah, hey, hey, have a great day. Man,

2020
01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:03.680
appreciate it. You got to go, I know I do.

2021
01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:05.359
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to cut you off. I

2022
01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:07.800
just literally do have multiple meetings. I'm sorry about this.

2023
01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:11.880
I want to keep going. I do, but yeah, thank you, really,

2024
01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:12.760
I appreciate it.

2025
01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:14.079
All right, thank you for having me on.

2026
01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:17.399
All right, Ryan, bye, buddy, all right, everybody, that's the

2027
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end of the show. Thanks for hanging in there with me.

2028
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I hope you enjoyed it, and remember everybody, please like,

2029
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2030
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2031
01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:35.640
at FO n ts ablaze. Have a great day and

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