The Misfit Patriot - Political Commentator | Content Creator | Social Media Personality

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I want to welcome the misfit patriot, mister misfit, So

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I appreciate you actually taking the time to be here too.

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I know you've been around lately. You've been on Peers Morgan,

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You've been on a bunch of other podcast doing debates, etc.

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As we kind of discussed offline, I really wanted you

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here because I wanted to give you the opportunity to

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explain yourself a bit more, because what I've seen is

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a bit I'll just say this, I've seen other people's

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fan base where fanboys basically get behind the other person

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or whoever and really bolster them up to try to

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make you look bad. And in my opinion, I don't

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think everything you say is a bad opinion. I don't,

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And I just don't think you're given enough air to

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breathe right, or enough room to actually say what you

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got to say. So I just wanted to get to

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know you and just get to know like where you're

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actually coming from. And I will bring up some of

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the things that were I guess controversial, especially if you're

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paying attention to social media, which is another world in

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and of itself, right, So yeah, well that I just

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want to start with this. I am going to get

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into the Iran Israel thing because that was pretty recent.

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You have a lot to say about that, but I

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want to start with what's going on with your not

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I wouldn't say best with your squabbles lately, for example,

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like Dave Smith. He said some stuff about Laura Lumer,

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which I can understand, But can you explain a bit

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what's going on between you and Dave? I mean, Dave

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kind of tries to dismiss you, but you seem to

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not not let him get away with everything that he says.

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Can you elaborate on that for me? Sure?

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Dave's just like everybody else that I call out when

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I when I see hypocrisy online, I usually call it out.

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I don't care if it's on my side. I mean, look,

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I spent years calling out the hypocrisy of the left

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because it's it's easy. It's it's literally like fish in

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a barrel. And I've noticed recently, pretty pretty recently, that

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there is this wing of the right that's adopting this

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you know, double standard what about ism, and and I

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would I would classify it as as woke ideology, like

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so this, there's this, there's this debate about you know,

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James Lindsay, myself and some others adopted this whole woke

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right a framing tactic, and a lot of people are like,

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woke means left. No woke actually just means oppressor oppressed

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ideology where it's basically like, there's a there's a they

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out there that's responsible for all of your problems and

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you bitch about it and you don't have no personal accountability.

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The right has never adopted this, but until recently, so

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I've been calling out the quote woke right, and I

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think that I don't know if Dave is necessarily woke right.

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He's definitely fucking woke because he's got this this ideology

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where where there's this, uh, there's this boogeyman bad guy, Uh,

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the American government is government, this, that and the other,

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and you know, under the guise of morality and libertarianism,

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he thinks that he's got this moral superiority over others.

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So that's just you know, a little intro into why

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I'm calling anybody out. But as far as Dave Smith specifically,

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what I've noticed about Dave Smith is he's a he's

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he's got this debate me bro like you know stick now.

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Andrew Wilson has the same thing. But Andrew Wilson I

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would say, I disagree with.

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Him a lot.

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But Andrew Wilson, I would say, actually should be in

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that space, right. Andrew Wilson smart, articulate, well read. He

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goes after the substance, whereas Dave uses gaslighting, narcissism, and

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abuse techniques to to bully berate his audience, and he

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usually does it under a platform where he's got the

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home field advantage, like on Pierce Morgan, or on Joe

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Rogan or on his own channel. I've really not seen

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a lot of substance from from him and others where

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they're actually they're actually arguing in good faith. Like so

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as far as like why why this bothers me so much,

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it's because I'm seeing I'm seeing it accepted in my

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own party. I'm seeing a lot of people that are

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sort of just jumping on. There is this single issue

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voter block that's now just anti Israel, right, they don't

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give a shit who you are. I see Johnny ut D,

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a far radical leftist from the UK, reposting Nick Fuentees

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because the only thing they have in common is they

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both hate Jews, and I don't. And I also see there.

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This is why I think this is one of the

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biggest issues of our time right now. I see a

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September tenth mentality in this country where we are not

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looking at the threat of radical Islam and how it

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is a real danger to I would say any Western

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civilization or any you know what. I don't know why

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we always do that peaceful civilization. Everywhere radical Islam has

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been implemented, it has made the place that it is

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implemented in worse. And we just had a primary in

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New York City, the biggest city in America, and they

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voted in a radical Islam as supporter and socialists. So

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why am I calling these people out? It's pretty much

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me pulling the fire alarm, except I'm not Jamal Bowman.

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I actually think there is a fire right well.

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My thing I think with Dave is and I've talked

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about this person myself, My brother and I have gone

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down this road. I actually respective for the fact that

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he is intelligent, but I think that he's gotten to

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a point where he's gotten so big and he's used

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to being patted on the back that everything he says

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is gold and I don't believe that he's even made

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the argument that, well, I make better arguments because I

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read books. Great, everyone reads books. But the problem with

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his books is he only accepts the ones that he

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says himself quoted, I just read better books. But both

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these books have the same facts. He just prefers the

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ones that have the inflection of the author or the

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opinions that support his view. So regardless, he does come

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into things with a lot of bias, he just won't

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admit it. And I don't believe he's always correct. So,

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you know, I do understand why you call him out.

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I just I don't know. I think he should be

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on a platform where he's more, like you said, challenge,

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not necessarily surrounded by his peers and constantly being you know,

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like I said before, pat on the back or even

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they gang up on the other person, you know who

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they're dating, which is a bit ridiculous.

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Yeah, and this whole debate thing, it's like, I'm not

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a debater, by the way, right, these people keep asking

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me to debate them. I don't go out and say

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I would like to debate x y z no Owen

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Shore said, I'll I want to debate you, Andrew Wilson said,

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I want to debate you a couple other people I've

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probably been in, I don't know, half a dozen debates.

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Maybe I I will accept any debate because I think

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that the best way to you know, solve problems is

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through discourse, because you know, when when discourse ends, violence begins. However,

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what I've noticed is when these people, when these people

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try to talk to me, you were you were alluding

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to this earlier, right, it's they have they have this

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I would say, false sense of of confidence because they're

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they're they're in their own echo. They have they have like, look,

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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna discredit the fact that

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these people have actual fans and real people that really

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support them. But I think that it's a lot of

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fake engagement where they're getting they're getting boosted and they're

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they're literally they're seeing their notifications they're like, you did great,

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you won, You're the best and crushed him. So what

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I do is, like, like with the Owen Shoryer debate,

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I did an own short debate. I rewatched the debate.

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I will fully admit that my first debate with Andrew Wilson,

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I lost right. I have no problem saying that I

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didn't know the substance. I told him I didn't know

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the substance. We were trying to have a theological debate.

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Was clearly he's clearly more educated on theology than I am.

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So I can say that I lost right on the

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on the substance. The second debate, I think it was

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fairly even. I watched the Owen Shorer debate, and I

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rewatched it knowing that I can be wrong. I can

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lose debates. If somebody does better than me or knows

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more than me, I'll be happy to admit it. When

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I rewatched it, I did not see him make a

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single point that that actually won on substance. He just

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yelled and screamed, and he and he didn't have any argument.

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He said Katar was our greatest ally. I said, what

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evidence you have that are greatest alloy? He goes, whatevers

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you have that they're not. I asked you a question.

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So anyway, So what happens is because he has so many,

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so much more followers than me, he does the debate.

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He doesn't do anything to win the debate, but everybody goes,

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you won the debate. But he but he actually didn't.

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But he's going around. It's like that meme where you

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see the cartoon guy and he's popping a bottle of

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champagne and biting, biting his medal and he's like yeah,

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and then it zooms out and he's in like fifteenth

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place and he's just like celebrating, and and I think

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that that's what's going on with Dave Smith. I think

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that he's literally like people are stroking his ego. And again,

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he might have real fans, but I think that a

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lot of it is I think that a lot of

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it's manufactured because there are people out there with an

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agenda that want to frame a narrative, and they will

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they will jump in and they will throw a bunch

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of bots under one person's post. And you know it

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also to the point that we made earlier, when he's

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going on these platforms, like Pierce Morgan, who's Pierce Morgan

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had Dave Smith on one side, he had the person

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that Dave Smith was supposed to be debating on the

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other side, and he's supposed to be in the middle

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as a moderator, right, Pierce Morgan joined in on one

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side of the argument for an hour and they tag

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teamed two different women. Where it was when you have

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a debate that's one hour long and two people are

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talking over one person, that person is going to get

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Maybe I would say a maximum, if it's a fair debate,

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thirty three percent of the airtime. But she didn't even

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get that. She probably got ten percent because they just

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wouldn't stop filibustering, interrupting. And then Dave literally in these debates.

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I don't want to make this whole podcast about Dave,

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but you asked Dave in these debates, who goes before

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the fucking debates?

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Even Olveray's like, I won well on the debate, And

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I did ask because I want to know, you know,

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I want to know where you're coming from. I know where

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I come from. I know where a lot of people

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come from. In my opinion, I think, okay, the deal

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with people like Dave, for example, comedians, they're trained to

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be very quick, witty, snappy, their comebacks right. They think quick,

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they react quick, they talk fast. Dave was was on

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National I think it was on Fox or whatever. I forgot.

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I forgot which news network it was. He would come

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on as a consultant or someone who would you know,

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like a talking head basically wants to.

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Make a contributor or something.

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Yeah, basically, but you know, we can't lie to ourselves.

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And I'm going to say this flat out, Dave would

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not be where he was if he wasn't Joe Rogan's friend, period, exactly.

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In my opinion, I'm getting very tired of these comedians

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thinking that just because they're witty on stage that they

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suddenly are authorities when it comes to politics and geopolitics.

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A guy doesn't know shit about geopolitics.

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No, and and Douglas Murray did a really good job

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of pointing this out to him, and you can tell

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it left a mark because Dave is still talking about

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I can't believe this appeal to authority. And then he

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makes the same appeal to authority to other people. Just

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came out and called out Rob Schneider and he goes,

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you're a comedian, you don't know what you're talking about.

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It.

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It's like, bro, right, dude, what's up Dave Murray?

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What's up?

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Dave Murray? Like what are you doing? You're literally so anyway,

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and again like so Dave is a good Dave is

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a good general, Like he's a good figurehead, to to

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sort of focus on the overarching broad issue of this

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false sense of confidence and how we're bolstering the dumbest

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voices who are not making actual intellectual arguments, but instead

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are are are dominating the clout market where they are,

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they are getting boosted, they are getting fed positive affirmations

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for nonsense. Meanwhile, what they do is they try to

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beat down and silence anybody that's actually making an articulate,

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well rounded argument, like I can't Elica. I think her

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name is the girl that was on the debate with

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Dave Right, she's Look, you had two lawyers, right, you

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had an international lawyer, you had a lawyer, you had

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an Iranian who actually knows about the Middle East, because.

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Yeah, she's she's she's.

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Well overqualified for this conversation, right. And you have Piers

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Morgan who brings on you bring on Natasha Housdorff, right,

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who's again an international lawyer, way overqualified for this conversation.

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And all they do is scream and shout he down,

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don't let her talk gaslight abuse, abuse abuse, And then

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they just go, look at what we did, right, And

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it's like, you shouldn't be proud of this, Piers and

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also one final thing that I was going to make

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a video on this. I got busy with work and everything.

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But before that debate that Dave was just on on Piers,

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they had on this guy who's supposedly a professor at

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Tehran University, which is essentially meaning he's he's an Iran spokesperson,

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the iurgy, he's an IERGYC spokesperson. Let's just call it

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what it is. He's a terrorist, right, He's an actual terrorist, right,

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there's no doubt about it. Pierce Morgan asks him. He goes,

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do you are you proud of what Hamas did on

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October seventh?

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And he goes, yeah, right, he goes yeah. I mean

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he goes.

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Because and then Pierce is like, they killed they killed

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Holocaust survivors. He's like, well, just because you survived the

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Holocaust doesn't mean you're allowed to settle in someone else's land.

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And he was It was like blatantly obvious that this

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guy is a terrorist, right, right, And then Pierce goes

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to Dave. Pierce goes, I think he made some good points.

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I obviously don't agree with the bad things he said,

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but I think he made some good points. What do

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you think? And Dave's like, yeah, I think he made

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some good points on I obviously don't agree with the

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bad things he said. Go look, dog, here's the deal.

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If you ever have a fucking terrorist on your platform,

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the one thing you do not do is say they

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had good points, because this is the same argument as

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Hitler had some good ideas. But I don't agree with

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the genocide. Right. It's like, bro, no, right, if you

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cannot universally condemn somebody who is out there in four

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k say yes, I am proud of the rape, murder, slaughtering,

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and kidnapping of twelve hundred plus people, Right, You've lost

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the thread. And it's not about like people are like, oh,

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you're taking them out of context. He only agreed with it. No, No,

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I didn't take him out of context at all. He

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agreed with a terrorist on some parts of the terrorists argument.

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I think, I think exact the problem. I think the

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problem with people like Dave is they they don't want

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to lose their base or the base of the sympathizers

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on the opposite side of the argument. They're trying to

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play the middle as much as they can so that

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they're always relevant and they're always you know, at the

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top of social media pulse or whatever it is that

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they get their Yeah, yeah, whatever works for them. But

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here's Morgan. We'll get off this in a minute. But

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the reality is, if you're going to be a moderator,

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you need to be a moderator. You're not supposed to

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jump in and gang up. And that's why I saw

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what that other debate when you're talking about orn I

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forgot the last name. Oh and Shroyer. Yeah, it was.

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It was a three on one. They had too much.

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When we started that debate, there was two other people

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in the little boxes and I go, am, I debating

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two people, right, and then the guy goes, oh, no,

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I'm a second moderator. I'm like you moderators.

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Yeah, I saw that one because you know, I did

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watch for your debate because I wanted to see I

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see the chatter, and I was like, Okay, let me

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see where he's coming from, let me see what happened

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outside perspective. Yeah, there was a couple We're personally not

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an attack, but I don't know if you were fully

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prepared on some of them. Yeah, fair enough, it happens, right,

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But there's others where I'm like the one with Oron.

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It was like, Okay, you're trying to make some good

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points and this guy, I actually never heard of him.

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I'm not an info war guy, but whatever, and everything

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that he was saying was nothing but based on conspiracy theories.

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He didn't have any real basis for his arguments. Yeah,

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and then he tried to tell you, or are you

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trying to make this argument about Jews choose being the

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problem while he is trying to explain the rule of

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the problem by also stating that the Jews are the

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rule of the problem, Like what the fuck you?

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I mean, well, this is the problem, this is the issue. Like, look,

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I have I wouldn't say I have respect for somebody

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likes Stu Peters, but I at least I at least

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can I can say that with Stu Peters and somebody

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likes Stu Peters. Right, he just says I hate Jews, right,

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And I'm like, damn, why can't they all do that? Right?

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He wears it, honestly, the argument that these people are

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not anti Semitic, they're anti Zionists when there's eighty to

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ninety five percent of jewsers Zionists. Right, It's just I'm

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just tired of the argument. Right, So you got people

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like Owen Schroyer who gaslight and they go, this is bullshit.

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Just because you call out Israel doesn't mean you Jews.

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And then then you criticize nobody else but Jews and I.

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And that's why I wanted to pin him down on Islam, right,

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because if you have somebody this is what I do respect.

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I respect somebody who goes fuck them both, right, Like

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I really do respect those people. I respect the people

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that go fuck Jews, fuck Muslims, and I don't agree

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with them because I don't see a problem with Jews, right,

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but I respect it.

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It's like, well, you're making a hard stance, right, You're

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going you're going fuck them both, right. Yeah.

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But when I tried to pin Owen Schroyer down on Islam,

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he goes, nos are quitar is one of our best allies.

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We have a military base there.

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I'm like, we got a military base in fucking Cuba, right,

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Like we got a military Like have you heard of

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Bogram You remember those thirteen dead service members? They were

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at a military base. So it's it's a non argument,

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like like Dave says, and then they don't they just

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they don't see that what they're doing, right, see with

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Hitler and and uh shit, I'm drawing a blank right now.

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Early the Islamic leader back in nineteen forty something that

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sat down with him, the muzzle. They created this coalition

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because they had a shared enemy, right, the Jewish people. Right,

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Islam is always going to hate the Jewish people. Hit

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their hated the Jewish people, and they came together. This

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is what I'm seeing with horseshoe theory, with the right

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and the left who are coming together and coalescing around Jews,

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where I'm like, look, I'm not Jewish, I'm not Israeli.

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I don't give a talk about Israel as far as

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like the government, I don't care. I don't care who

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the president is. I don't know how their system works.

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I don't know anything about Israeli politics.

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Right. I saw on October.

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Seventh, nine to eleven, Part two, right in a different country,

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And I remember nine eleven. I'm old enough to remember

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nine eleven, and I remember how other nations were standing

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with America and they were showing their support, and I go, yeah,

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let's return the fucking favor. Let's show our support with

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like they did this to us twenty four years ago.

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So yeah, of course, well back then it was three

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years ago.

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I'm forty all right, I'm gonna be forty seven. Yeah.

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So I was fifteen that it happened.

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I remember I was driving to I was a union

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painter for a little bit. I was driving down to

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the Bay Area and then it was on the radio

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and everybody was just like, what the fuck just happened.

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Me and my dad were driving. It came with with

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his neighbor. It came on the radio. We were out

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running an errand and we ran rushed back to the

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house and sat there, all three of us, and watched

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the TV crying, you know. And I was crying because

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my brother at the time, it was still my brother,

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but at the time, my brother was over in the

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Middle East, overseas in the Marines. Oh, and I was like,

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my brother's going to die. I was like, he's going

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to die. He's going like he's because as a fifteen

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year old, you just know that war means people die.

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Anyway, he didn't, but it was.

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It's a moment that if you lived it, you don't forget.

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And I think that the reason why there's this indifference

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to Islam is because it has been now twenty something

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years and we have a brand new generation that just

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does not understand what that what that felt like?

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The problem? Okay, not disagreeing with you whatsoever. I think

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what people don't understand is they don't they don't do

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a deep dive on the history, and they want to

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cherry pick the parts of history that makes all of

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this look good. Right. Yeah, Islam going back to when

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their prophet Muhammad was still alive is when in around

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sixteen twelve, between sixteen twelve and six I'm not sixteen,

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I'm sorry, six sixteen twelve to six twenty two is

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when they decided that, hey, we're gonna expand and we're

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going to bring the world under Sharia law or under

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the Muslim way, right, And since that it has not stopped.

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They never forgot they're objective. It's it's still there.

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I mad, I made a post. I made a post

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last night. I think it was somebody asked me, and

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they asked me in good faith. They weren't they weren't trolling,

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which is normally you get this question when somebody's trolling.

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They go, uh, wouldn't wouldn't killing more wouldn't killing people

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in the Middle East make more terrorists, not less?

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And I was like, no, absolutely not. And here's why.

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If you actually know history, right, there's been over sixty

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six thousand Islamic terrorist attacks in the past fifty years.

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They were they kill each other when there's no interventionism. Uh,

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there's been eighteen hundred attacks or eighteen hundred deaths just

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last year in twenty twenty four. It's like the the

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idea that people that have spent like centuries murdering other

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people are murdering us because every once in a while,

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when they get too crazy, we intervene and try to

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stop them is retarded. It's it doesn't make any sense

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right these people, it's Islam is a convert or killed

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death cult because the the Quran states as doctrine that

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you need to kill infidels, and you need to and

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it's an expansionist religion. It's a it's a political ideology

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disguised as a religion, first of all. But it's it's

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ike it's ikea instructions on how to take over the world, right,

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that's what it is, right, and and that's the thing.

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It's the exact opposite of Judaism right, where it's like Judaism, Well,

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let's not even go with Judaism.

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Let's go with Israel.

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Right, let's just go with the modern state of Israel,

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because people don't like when you get to theology Israel

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is an isolationist country. They don't want to expand. They

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never have they they they they they're the same. They're

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at the same numbers they were at the end of

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the Holocaust. As far as population, they don't grow. They

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just try to survive. They stay in their little dot

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in the Middle East. They have no real plans for,

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you know, taking over anywhere else. And if you look

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at Islam, if you look at a map of the

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Muslim nations in seventeen seventy eight, when the Ottoman Empire,

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like you know, the Barbaries started their whole you know,

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modern expansionist movement, it looks like cancer spreading. They're everywhere

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now right, They're in Africa, the Middle East, Europe. It's like, bro,

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how are people missing this?

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Well, you're right, you're right. So. And also, Palestine was

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never an actual country nation. It was really referred to

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as a region that was a collection of tribes and

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you know, sub nations I guess you would call them

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back then. Yeah, but that's what it was, that's what

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was referred to.

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That's what it still is. It's a region in Israel.

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It is a region now. The history between like you

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were talking about Muslims and the Jews or just the

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really is that's that's that's an old, old, old war.

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Old titles back to Charigan Ishmael. Yeah, Isaac and Ishmael.

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You can start there. It's two brothers had a fight,

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and three thousand years later we're all paying.

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It just never stopped. It just never stopped. And this

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whole two state solution that keeps getting rejected was I

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mean the act like this was a new concept and

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people are upset about it first mentioned, I believe, like

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officially like nineteen seventeen, nineteen eighteen, by the way, way

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before nineteen forty eight, when when the Israeli state was formed, right,

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and then it was it was introduced again nineteen thirty seven,

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and then from there it just it just continued, It

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just continued, I believe in the late nineties and two thousands,

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it was it was continually pushed and introduced, but constantly

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rejected because they don't want their peace of land, Like

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they say they want the area now it's well, I

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mean riverge disease what they say, right, they've they've they've

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rejected the two state solutions. They've rejected they've started every

473
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.559
war since the since the Arab is where they were

474
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.960
nineteen forty eight, there's been you know six Like the

475
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.759
talking point is Nakba, right, Knachba was a reaction to

476
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.480
the initiation of the Arab Israeli war, which the with

477
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.559
the Arabs started. And you want a two state solution,

478
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.480
I have one. There are already two states, Jordan and Israel.

479
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.880
Put fucking put one.

480
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.440
Put these people in Jordan because I I did a

481
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.880
debate where the opposition leader to the King of Jordan

482
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.839
told me straight up, he goes, we'll take them, he goes, absolutely.

483
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.119
You know, there's dating.

484
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.000
The original proposal was when when when that split happened,

485
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.960
was Palestine was literally part of Jordan. Were supposed to

486
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.240
be part of Jordan. But a lot of people argue, well,

487
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.680
they're not the same Palestinians, they don't have the same culture,

488
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.680
same whatever. Great, but there's diverse cultures in Israel. We

489
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:49.720
have diverse cultures here.

490
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.279
That's that's the Middle East in a nutshell, it's literally

491
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.720
just a bunch of different u iterations of Muslim, you know,

492
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:58.759
like look at Iran, I ran, like I ran. It's

493
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:02.039
not there's I hate when people do this and it's

494
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.799
it's ignorance. Dave Smith does it, a lot of people

495
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.759
do it own Schroy does it where they try to

496
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.880
compare two different regions in the Middle East, like it's

497
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.319
all the same. The Iranian people, there's so many. I

498
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:19.160
would say the majority probably are against the Irgc and

499
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.880
the and the the Iarola. So you don't have the

500
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.640
same dichotomy as you do in Gaza, where Hamas has

501
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.119
an overwhelming support of the Palestinian people.

502
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.799
They they took part in October seventh. The people did

503
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.240
they do? They do to a degree, So.

504
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.839
There is there is definitely, there's definitely opposition, and they're

505
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.240
they're silenced and killed if they if they speak out.

506
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.400
But I'm saying the percentages are way different.

507
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.720
No, Okay, I'll agree with you there. What I was

508
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.279
gonna say is is when Hamas came into power, though

509
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.480
they were originally voted in as the governing body to

510
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.359
represent the palest Mp people, correct, they were not originally

511
00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.640
just a terrorist organization. They were't supposed to be anyway,51200:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.680



they turned into that, and now they're using their own51300:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.559



people that they rule as shields and as sympathy cards51400:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.759



that they can pull against the world to say, Hey,51500:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.920



there's nothing what are they doing. Our hospitals could be51600:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.000



geting bombed, We're being targeted, Like why why are you51700:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.359



killing our people? Yeah, and there's that's really putting their51800:28:16.359 --> 00:28:17.079



people in danger.51900:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.720



Look, there's a valid criticism for Israel's part in funding Hamas.52000:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.559



There's valid criticism of course, or there's valid criticism for52100:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.920



the CIA and George Bush going through regime changes in52200:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.960



the Middle East and causing these people to do these things. Right,52300:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.039



But just like I told Owen Schroyer, I don't fucking care,52400:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.680



right because once you look look like these people, they52500:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.000



constantly try to find the root cause, which doesn't change52600:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.680



the fact that as in this moment, we have a52700:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.400



terrorist organization doing terrorist Do you think figuring out why52800:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.000



it happened and telling them is going to be They're52900:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.079



going to be like, ah shit, I'm sorry, man, I53000:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.160



didn't realize we didn't have to cut people's heads off. No,53100:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.519



they're doing these actions now in the current moment, right,53200:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.400



and and yeah, like cool, find out who killed JFK.53300:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.039



I don't give a shit. He's dead, all right, Like53400:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.079



what are you doing now? We don't even know who53500:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.640



tried to kill Trump, and you guys are like focusing53600:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.200



on who tried to kill JFK. So what I'm saying53700:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.599



is these these people that that try to hyper fixate53800:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.839



on the root cause they're ignoring the fact that right53900:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.759



now currently Hamas engaged in October seventh, right, and the54000:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.200



reason they did it is because they're a terrorist organization?54100:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.039



Now why are they a terrorist organization? Like That's that's54200:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.920



what what these people focus on. I just personally don't care, right,54300:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.440



I don't care if Kamene wasn't hugged enough by his mother,54400:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.799



he's a fucking terrorist, kill him, right. So that's that's54500:29:49.839 --> 00:29:54.279



my that's my mindset of of like the the the54600:29:54.279 --> 00:29:59.599



people that are blaming the the Israelis, it's like, cool,54700:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.200



who cares?54800:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.680



But I ran became the largest state sponsor terrorism in54900:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.559



nineteen eighty four, they were okay, So the current regime55000:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.000



was put into power in seventy nine, right eighty four,55100:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.039



not too long after all of a sudden, they're one55200:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.519



of the largest state sponsor terrorism. Here we're on twenty55300:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.160



twenty five, and they still are you know, they're using55400:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.240



their proxies to do their bidding so that they can55500:30:20.319 --> 00:30:20.960



have a buffer.55600:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.799



Exactly, Like, at what point how long of a pattern55700:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.640



of behavior do you get to go through before you55800:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.319



actually blame the people that are doing the shit that55900:30:30.359 --> 00:30:31.000



they're doing.56000:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.480



Right, It's like, you guys, not you guys.56100:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.720



Some people, some people are just trying to figure to56200:30:40.119 --> 00:30:45.319



justify terrorism because they don't like a certain people group,56300:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.920



which is the Jews. Right, So they're trying to justify56400:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.880



the terrorism of the people that are committing terrorism. And56500:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.359



then they're trying to blame the people that are engaging56600:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.119



in anti terrorism, right, counter offensives. And again I have56700:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.799



no problem if you create size Israel's actions. Right, However,56800:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.000



hold up a fucking mirror, because you got people like56900:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.519



Pierce Morgan who're like this, this is a disproportionate response.57000:31:10.519 --> 00:31:11.279



Blah blah blah.57100:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.799



You heard of Operation Gomora, fuck face? Right?57200:31:13.920 --> 00:31:18.480



Like Operation Gomora the Royal the Royal Air Force, in57300:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.480



conjunction with the Allies in the United States, dropped nine57400:31:21.640 --> 00:31:26.119



thousand tons of bombs on Hamburg Germany and they killed57500:31:26.480 --> 00:31:31.720



forty thousand civilians pavilions. They didn't care. Another forty thousand57600:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.759



were injured. Another two hundred and fifty thousand were displaced.57700:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.240



Nobody called it a fucking genocide because the Nazis needed57800:31:40.440 --> 00:31:45.720



to die, right like. So, I don't understand how we've57900:31:46.119 --> 00:31:51.759



got this revisionist history of current history of right now58000:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.799



what's happening, whereas you have actual history that they that58100:31:55.839 --> 00:31:56.599



they just ignore.58200:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.799



As Rook let me interject, I think I think the58300:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.920



issue with zech is that the wolf ride, as you58400:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.480



call them, I think they're just they're just holding fast58500:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.799



to kind of to America. First they say they are,58600:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.400



but then they're not, but then they are. I think58700:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.079



they I think they pick and choose for whatever suits58800:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.279



suits them, depending on who they're talking to. But what58900:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.119



I see is nobody wants to go to war on59000:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.119



the behest or behalf of another country right now, especially Israel,59100:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.119



and a lot of people do not like the fact59200:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.319



that the United States seems to be bleeding money right59300:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.680



by funding all these other nations. It's a fair, it's59400:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.160



a fair, and I understand that when it comes to Israel.59500:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.960



For looking at the USA numbers there was. There was59600:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.039



sign into law basically that we, at a minimum minimum59700:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.880



every year give them three point two billion dollars. That's59800:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.519



not the full amount we give them every year, but59900:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.680



that's the minimum. They're supposed to use that to buy60000:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.039



weapons and military aid whatever from US. But at the60100:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.880



same time, we give above and beyond that three point60200:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.160



two billion every single year. So I see where people60300:32:59.200 --> 00:32:59.880



are upset with that.60400:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.759



No, yeah, no, they do offset. They do offset that, right,60500:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.839



But I don't like it. Look, look, here's the deal.60600:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.440



I'm going to agree with with people on this one,60700:33:10.799 --> 00:33:15.079



right that disagree with me on Israel, right, like in general, right,60800:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.880



I don't see why we do that. It's basically money laundry.60900:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.640



It's like, you know, we give them the money that61000:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.559



we say, give it back to us, and then you know,61100:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.640



we it's a weird it's a weird system of foreigner61200:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.480



and we do it with other countries too. But yeah,61300:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.480



it's not just Israel, right, we do this with with61400:33:30.559 --> 00:33:31.240



his amic stakes.61500:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.759



I mean, we forgured the over two hundred I think61600:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.920



it's two hundred and forty countries and territories every single year.61700:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.720



Exactly, And I don't like it. I don't like it61800:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.599



at all. I don't think that we should have it,61900:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.000



just like I don't like APEC.62000:33:44.440 --> 00:33:44.640



Right.62100:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.920



My issue is, why the fuck are you bitching about62200:33:49.039 --> 00:33:50.759



one and not the others?62300:33:50.839 --> 00:33:51.000



Right?62400:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.799



And or just don't pitch about Look, here's the deal.62500:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.599



If like I don't know, if you follow Stephen Crowder,62600:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.480



I like Stephen Crowder's argument, right. Stephen Crowder usually comes62700:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.240



in and he goes, he goes a pack, gave money62800:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.359



to Hakeem Jefferies, fuck a pack. But it's like, if62900:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.480



you're mad about APAC, you should be mad about all63000:34:08.519 --> 00:34:10.559



the packs. And you guys, aren't your only focus on63100:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.719



the one that's about the Jews. And I think that63200:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.719



that I don't think that that's necessarily And this is63300:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.400



what the conspiracy theories will say. I don't think that63400:34:22.440 --> 00:34:29.880



it's some nefarious favor, you know, like shake handshaking, back scratching,63500:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.840



grand conspiracy.63600:34:32.280 --> 00:34:33.840



I really do think it's just like.63700:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.360



A way of laundering money where it's like nations do63800:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.880



this because they can they can. It's just like it's63900:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.840



just like you know, slush funds and greedy corporations. I64000:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.440



don't think there's I don't think it's that deep, but64100:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.320



it is it is concerning that we give so much64200:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.639



money to Israel. I don't think we should.64300:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.519



Well, it's already been proven that a lot of this64400:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.280



aide like I said, okay, money laundering, but it's already64500:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.239



been proven that a lot of this does come back64600:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.519



to other companies where we have congress people who have64700:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.519



invested interest in these companies. Yes, and then they later64800:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.000



get a kickback via a you know, air quote donation64900:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.239



for whatever they need. So yeah, there is corruption there.65000:35:12.239 --> 00:35:13.440



We can't I can't deny that.65100:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.880



Look, and that's what That's what I'm trying to say.65200:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.000



If you have a problem with government corruption, we are65300:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.760



on the same fucking team, man. But call it government corruption,65400:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.440



don't call it is really control of the government.65500:35:27.400 --> 00:35:28.320



Right, because it's not.65600:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.800



It's it's the same level of corruption that the pharmaceutical65700:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.519



industry has. It's the same level of corruption that the65800:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.320



National Association of Realtors has.65900:35:39.559 --> 00:35:39.719



Right.66000:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.760



Do you think those California wildfires and Hawaii Hawaii wildfires66100:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.199



didn't have some nefarious shit going on? You don't think66200:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.559



that there was somebody that was surveying it. You remember66300:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.119



after the Hawaii wildfires, how the government came in and66400:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.920



was like, hey, we're going to take your land. By66500:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.679



the way, Hey it's burnt down, you don't need it anymore. Yeah, right,66600:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.480



this shit happens, right, and I have a problem with66700:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.920



all of it, including the ship that happens from the Jews, right.66800:36:03.239 --> 00:36:07.480



But I also have a huge problem when narratives are66900:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.840



framed because of a political agenda where you ignore one67000:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.480



thing and it's like moral relativism. Right, It's like the67100:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.559



girl that Elka I think her name is that was67200:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.280



just debating Dave Smith was trying to articulate this point67300:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.320



where it's like, have a problem with all of it,67400:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.280



or have a problem with none of it, because if67500:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.559



you hyper fixate on one thing, you're being disingenuous.67600:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.400



Agreed. I believe the I believe the issue that a67700:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.480



lot of people have with the US involvement on all67800:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.880



in the middleases trying to force Western ideals onto Middle67900:36:43.920 --> 00:36:48.239



Eastern principles. It's never going to happen. It's it's it's68000:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.800



not We're just we're just too far apart. I mean, yeah,68100:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.440



we have some ties, as you said before, with with68200:36:53.679 --> 00:36:59.880



Israel because of the Christian you know, principles or outlet right,68300:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.400



but like it's not the same. We're not. The Western68400:37:03.400 --> 00:37:04.880



and Midle East are not exactly the same.68500:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.239



They're not and they're not gonna. We really do need68600:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.760



to separate the cultures, right. It's it's just like you68700:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.800



need to separate them in Gaza, you need to move68800:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.320



those people to Jordan, and we need to do the68900:37:13.360 --> 00:37:13.719



same thing.69000:37:13.920 --> 00:37:14.599



I am, I am.69100:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.519



I have called for a Muslim band in America for69200:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.599



for a long time, not because I hate Muslims, right,69300:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.199



I don't think that there is a It is oil69400:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.840



and Muslim sorry Islam, yes, and a Judeo Christian or69500:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.840



even Western civilization cannot coexist. They they just can't, right,69600:37:35.239 --> 00:37:41.559



because their ideology is to change our ideology. Our ideology69700:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.000



is not to change their ideology, right, I mean.69800:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.719



Well not not in modern times anyway.69900:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.840



Well, as Christians, you're, as Christians are supposed to preach70000:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.119



the Word of God and hopefully people come, people come70100:37:53.199 --> 00:37:53.760



to Christ.70200:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.800



So I was kind of referring to like the Crusades70300:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.199



and then you know the Catholic Church funding. Yeah, that's70400:37:59.199 --> 00:38:00.880



why I said more.70500:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.519



I mean plenty of plenty of people have died in70600:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.960



the name of Christ through wars, the name of religion70700:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.920



in general and the name of religion in general. But70800:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.679



I'm talking about in twenty twenty five, right Like, in70900:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.000



twenty twenty five, you have countries in the Middle East71000:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.639



where they can still stone a woman to death. You71100:38:17.679 --> 00:38:19.400



have countries in the Middle East where they can still71200:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.400



marry an eight year old, right like, this is not71300:38:23.039 --> 00:38:27.920



going to mix with modern civilization in the greatest country71400:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.280



in the world. And you mentioned Judeo Christian values. Judeo71500:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.280



Christian values doesn't even necessarily have to apply to a religion.71600:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.480



Our constitution was framed based off of the Judeo Christian71700:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.159



principles of the Old Testament and the New Testament. Our71800:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.719



constitution mirrors the Ten Commandments, right like, our rule of71900:38:44.800 --> 00:38:49.760



law mirrors the Old Testament that Jews follow, and our72000:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.760



I would say, the structure of our personality is more72100:38:56.079 --> 00:38:56.800



New Testament.72200:38:56.920 --> 00:38:57.079



Right.72300:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.840



So we have law and then we have principles. And72400:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.119



that's Judeo Christianism. It doesn't mean jew christ it doesn't.72500:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.519



It means it's really a way of coining. It's a72600:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.280



way of of of terming the relationship between the Jewish,72700:39:13.599 --> 00:39:18.639



the original Jewish beliefs, and Western Christian values. And how72800:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.519



they somehow meet because you know, both both sides got entangled,72900:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.880



the West and and the and the East through those principles.73000:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.599



They're not exactly the same all the way down to73100:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.559



a t, but they're very similar. And then take commandments.73200:39:31.599 --> 00:39:32.800



Going back to what you said, I mean, that's the73300:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.840



foundational principle of many nations when it comes to law exactly.73400:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.199



You know, it's like almost every I'm pretty sure that73500:39:40.360 --> 00:39:46.599



murder right is illegal. Don't steal, don't kill, culture, don't steal,73600:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.880



don't kill, don't rape, you know, like that basic things.73700:39:50.920 --> 00:39:51.400



Don't lie?73800:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.519



I mean that that's the other thing. You know, there's73900:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.280



this high there if you if you follow the New74000:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.360



Testament like I do, and the Old.74100:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.000



But if it's all the New Testament, the thing.74200:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.760



That that Christ hated more and the thing that God74300:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.639



hates more than anything is lies, right, Lying is pretty74400:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.119



much the greatest sin. And it's in different iterations, right,74500:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.800



like don't covet thy neighbor's wife, Like that's that's a74600:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.960



form of you know, dishonest, like you know, the circumventation74700:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.199



of trust.74800:40:20.239 --> 00:40:21.480



And then you.74900:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.519



Have the Muslim religion, which tells literally tells you to75000:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.119



tells you to lie. There's this practice of takia tekia. Yeah,75100:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.519



tekia is is is if it if it moves your75200:40:33.559 --> 00:40:34.960



agenda forward on it.75300:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.960



It's learning hiding who you are, hide who you are75400:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.440



until you have to reveal. It tells time to reveal75500:40:40.480 --> 00:40:41.840



it exactly.75600:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.440



It does not mix. No, it just doesn't.75700:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.320



You you will agree. I've I've had Okay, I've done75800:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.679



many episodes on this and I've I've done some posts75900:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.599



where I literally have stated Islam is not compatible with76000:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.639



the West, and I was attacked that crazy. But nobody76100:40:56.679 --> 00:41:00.000



can make the argument on how they are compatible. And yeah,76200:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.159



and everybody wants to say, well, you got it wrong.76300:41:02.199 --> 00:41:05.000



Not all Muslims are bad. Well, a Muslim by definition76400:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.760



from what I found, I could be wrong, But from76500:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.760



what I found is someone who follows the Koran or76600:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.079



practices Islam. That's who a Muslim is. The issue is, yes,76700:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.920



there could be some good Muslims, those who have modernized,76800:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.239



who have progressed and look at the Koran as well.76900:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.639



It's just like the Old Testament, right, do we really77000:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.199



live like the Old Testament? We're not stoning people that77100:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.800



was in the Little Testament. Yeah, but the culture progressed77200:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.679



and we realized we can't do that anymore. Now you're77300:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.719



the extremist Islamist. That's the issue. And I think they're77400:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.599



just using that to control people so they can just77500:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.719



literally gain power. It's all about power and control, that's77600:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.559



all it is. Well, this is what I told oh,77700:41:40.679 --> 00:41:43.199



this is what I told own in our debate. Right,77800:41:43.400 --> 00:41:48.840



there's about two billion Muslims, right and growing and growing,77900:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.679



and let's say, let's say ten percent of them right78000:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.159



are extreme, which it's more it's actually more right. A78100:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.639



lot of people don't believe this, but it really is right.78200:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.599



You have Sharia.78300:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.800



Sharia practicing Muslims are somewhere between five and nine percent,78400:42:06.840 --> 00:42:10.519



and then strict religious Muslims are like forty percent. So78500:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.960



you can come to a conclusion that that the the78600:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.400



radicalized Muslims are probably somewhere in the double digits. Twenty78700:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.079



percent doesn't matter, right, But if it's ten, if it's78800:42:22.159 --> 00:42:26.199



ten percent, right, that's two hundred million people that want78900:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.880



to cut your fucking head off, right, And that's too many.79000:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.159



That's way too many. That's two hundred million people who79100:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.840



have an ideology that they want to kill you if79200:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.800



you don't convert to their way of life.79300:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.880



You're correct, you know, it's always death to America, and79400:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.440



not even just America, death to the West.79500:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.719



And then they go but no, they chant that, they79600:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.960



chant Nott in Seattle, Balm Seadle.79700:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.239



Or what a stupid fucking argument.79800:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.840



I just I was like to the fact that you're79900:42:56.840 --> 00:43:02.320



trying to equate some you know, bird trust fund baby80000:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.519



liberal who's just repeating that because they heard it. It's80100:43:06.559 --> 00:43:13.119



just like versus versus a radical, like, you know, terrorists80200:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.400



who will actually do it. Like the difference between the80300:43:17.679 --> 00:43:22.480



pink haired liberal in Seattle and Mohammed guy over here80400:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.079



is the Mohammed guy will set you on fire, literally,80500:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.880



just he will throw you off a building, He will80600:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.000



chop you to death, and the whole time he will80700:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.360



be screaming a lah.80800:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.400



Yeah, I've got the individual. But the one that just80900:43:38.400 --> 00:43:39.760



just tried to burn those.81000:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.119



Colorado Yeah yeah, with the Maltov cocktails. His name was Mohammed.81100:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.239



Right. It's like, I'm like, you can't draw that motherfucker81200:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.440



you name it, man, you just can't. Let me. Let81300:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.440



me make a make a point that backs up a81400:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.199



little bit about what you said. So extreme aslam As81500:43:54.360 --> 00:43:56.719



have been tied to terrorism I mean that that's the81600:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.800



whole basis and foundation for their movement. I'm going to81700:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.440



go to dominate the market, yep. I'm going to go81800:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.280



to some faction data because we're talking about possible attacks81900:44:05.280 --> 00:44:06.880



here in the US, but people are ignoring, they're saying,82000:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.719



you're full of shit. Whatever. I have the Terrorist Screening82100:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.039



data here from Customs Border Control twenty twenty five alone,82200:44:14.480 --> 00:44:18.360



And this is you know what the TSDs is. It's82300:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.239



the me Okay, it's the Terrorist Screening Data System. So82400:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.320



this has all the known terrorists, the people they know82500:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.719



are terrorists. So the number they apprehended that they knew82600:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.119



of that I actually caught so far in twenty twenty82700:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.400



five of known terrorists is seven hundred and seventy two82800:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.760



just this year so far. That's enough to put about82900:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.159



fifteen or more terrorists in every single fucking state of83000:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.880



the United States. And we've seen how small groups of83100:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.880



terrorists can do a lot of damage. How many how83200:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.840



many did it take to do to pull off nine83300:44:48.880 --> 00:44:49.639



to eleven.83400:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.719



This hand for a handful of this is the CoA83500:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.800



did it. It's like I don't even care. And that83600:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.119



that's that's the other thing, right, This whole, this whole83700:44:58.159 --> 00:45:03.199



dismissal right, this whole deflection of well, the nine to83800:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.360



eleven was an inside job. It doesn't negate the fact83900:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.280



that the terrorists got on a plane and flew a84000:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.679



plane into a fucking building. It's like, you can't you84100:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.719



can't force somebody to do that. They wanted to do that.84200:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.840



What was crazier is there was sorry to cut you off,84300:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.960



but no, what's crazier is I all right, I know84400:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.719



people literally and they've been guests mine that were in84500:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.599



intelligence literally working for the army. This is their job.84600:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.760



They were in intelligence. Yeah, these guys, one in particular,84700:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.679



literally told me the story how they were giving fair84800:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.920



warrant to the government about the chatter around nine to84900:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.639



eleven that had nothing to do with our own government.85000:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.079



It was chatter by terrorist organizations. And then then the85100:45:46.199 --> 00:45:51.039



dismissal of the two terrorists that were taking flight courses85200:45:51.079 --> 00:45:57.480



and training in those Yeah, there, Alane, they were training85300:45:57.480 --> 00:45:58.159



in America.85400:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.480



So look, my brother, I told you, my brother was85500:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.159



in the Middle East when love happened. He called my85600:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.920



mom the night before. I'll never forget this. He called85700:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.719



my mom the night before and he said, I don't85800:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.199



know what's going on, But something's going to happen, right,85900:46:11.280 --> 00:46:13.880



he's and because they had they had intel that they86000:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.280



were about to do something. Yes, it's like but and86100:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.960



it wasn't. It wasn't like, hey, I'm in the CIA.86200:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.320



No he was. He was infantry or he was recon86300:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.519



so he was forced recon And at the time, I'm86400:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.320



not even sure that he had even uh completed the86500:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.000



the UH special Forces training, so he might have just86600:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.920



been a grunt. But he called my mom and he86700:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.480



asked to talk to me too, and he just spoke86800:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.119



to me. He goes, hey, ro He's like, I just86900:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.119



wanted to say, in case anything happens, I love you.87000:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.360



And I was like, And then the next day when87100:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.880



it happened, that's why I started breaking down because I87200:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.159



was like, my brother just warned me that something was87300:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.840



going to happen. Twelve hours later, I'm looking at the87400:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.119



buildings falling down. This is something's wrong, something's bad. So yeah,87500:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.280



what was where they? Like I don't even like going87600:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.280



down these roads of validating people like own, but was87700:47:05.320 --> 00:47:12.880



there probably some like I would say CIA involvement, Yeah, probably,87800:47:13.000 --> 00:47:14.880



But you know what, we do that shit all the87900:47:14.960 --> 00:47:15.559



fucking time.88000:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.400



Welcome to spy shit. We do, we do, you know,88100:47:18.440 --> 00:47:20.079



and I don't like it. I don't like it. I'm88200:47:20.079 --> 00:47:21.239



not just because I'm not.88300:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.000



Just because I'm not ripping my hair out and going88400:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.920



down rabbit holes doesn't mean I think it's cool or okay.88500:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.320



And that's the other problem that you have with debate me, bros. Right,88600:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.239



if you do not agree with them, if they cannot88700:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.880



force you to accept their narrative, they immediately say that88800:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.760



you're complicit. Right, It's like, no, I'm not complicit. Here's88900:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.800



the thing though, Right, how much time do you put89000:47:50.840 --> 00:47:55.199



into this thing when you could be focusing on this89100:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.079



thing because this thing is happening right fucking now. And89200:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.719



JFK was killed sixty fucking years so I.89300:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.159



Understand where you're coming from, right, Yeah, I mean they89400:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.679



want they want to base all their arguments on these89500:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.519



deep rabbit holes of conspiracy theories versus what can be89600:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.920



proved and what's happening now. I mean, we have a89700:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.639



real situation. We've seen what's happened. Okay, let's just talk89800:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.119



about this. We've seen what's happened in the UK, you know,89900:48:19.880 --> 00:48:27.480



through consistent immigration migration of asylum seekers. I guess now,90000:48:27.800 --> 00:48:31.360



most of London is ran by a Muslim population, and90100:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.119



they start just like it's happening in New York where90200:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.519



this is. They get these people to say what you90300:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.960



want to hear, they get voted into a position of90400:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.719



power decision making, and then once they got one in,90500:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.599



they get the other guy and the other guy. Before90600:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.559



you know it, you've lost. And look at what's happening90700:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.039



in Ireland right now. The people over there are fucking pissed.90800:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.960



They're done. The other day, my wife just told me90900:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.239



about this. I didn't realize what's happening. They're fighting against91000:48:54.440 --> 00:48:56.800



migrants right now over there. They're done with the government,91100:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.199



they're done with the invasion.91200:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.800



That's why mc connomer is getting attack so hard. I'm91300:49:01.800 --> 00:49:03.760



not I'm not like you know, look, I don't I91400:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.079



don't know about the scandals. I don't care about the91500:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.840



scandals as far as Connor. Yeah, as far as Connor,91600:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.960



I'm I'm a fan of Connor McGregor. But if it91700:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.199



turns out that he raped somebody, fuck them all right.91800:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.679



But however, my point is not that. My point is91900:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.119



a person like Trump coming in and uh, you know,92000:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.199



be defying the odds in twenty sixteen was because people92100:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.519



were tired of, like the what was going on in America.92200:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.039



Somebody like Connor McGregor could fucking win the presidency in92300:49:35.480 --> 00:49:39.920



Ireland because people are tired. It's like, but the thing92400:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.280



about what's happening in the UK, Like you look at92500:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.559



the rape statistics in Germany, you look at the stabbing92600:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.639



statistics and uh and the rape gangs in the UK,92700:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.079



and you look at the common denominator and it's like,92800:49:51.159 --> 00:49:52.159



it's fucking Islam.92900:49:52.199 --> 00:49:52.440



It's not.93000:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.280



And they say immigrants, what kind Like there's a difference93100:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.599



between the immigrants in America which have come here from93200:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.559



a bunch of different nations. And sure, yeah, we have93300:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.559



a Haitian problem, we have a like you know, like93400:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.840



Al Salvadorian Venezuelan, we have you know, the Latin country's93500:50:11.079 --> 00:50:14.760



problem over here. But over there in Europe their problem93600:50:14.960 --> 00:50:20.199



is way worse because that ideology that's taking over their nation.93700:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.119



You can't vote it out, right, you have to fight93800:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.039



again at this point, Yeah, you can't. You cannot vote93900:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.639



that out if in the UK, the UK I think94000:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.599



is going to be i would say, taken over by Islam,94100:50:33.639 --> 00:50:34.960



and it already kind of is.94200:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.760



Well, it's as part of their playbook. Yeah. I mean,94300:50:37.800 --> 00:50:39.800



if they can't do it through violence and overpowering you94400:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.119



with the military, which they really don't have because they're94500:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.960



very segregated and broken people as far as who's in94600:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.400



charge and who's going to do what, how else they94700:50:47.400 --> 00:50:47.840



going to do it?94800:50:48.239 --> 00:50:48.960



They're not stupid.94900:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.719



You're taking advantage of your system by playing on your sympathies.95000:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.440



I mean, that's that's why. Well everything's going on with95100:50:54.599 --> 00:50:59.840



exclusivity and DEI. They're using those two things to infiltrate95200:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.239



the US. When we look at Dearborn right now.95300:51:02.880 --> 00:51:07.079



It's yes, it's actually exactly, it's Andy. They even tried95400:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.800



to change the flag so they looked more like the95500:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.599



flag and I'm like, I'm like, guys, look here's the deal.95600:51:13.039 --> 00:51:17.119



This whole, this whole anti Israel woke right movement where95700:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.519



it's like a pac blah blah blah. The fucking conspiracy.95800:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.440



There is the the irony that the majority of these95900:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.239



people continuously talk about this is a distraction. You're being distracted.96000:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.360



You don't understand. Look at you don't see what the96100:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.800



real picture is. While they don't understand what is actually96200:51:33.840 --> 00:51:39.519



going on, they are being played, right. They are useful96300:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.239



idiots for a cause. And I think the cause is96400:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.679



Marxism of accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing. Right,96500:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.360



So all of the like and Dougs Murray said it,96600:51:53.480 --> 00:51:58.960



uh he the quote. I think it was Gail Gail something. Uh,96700:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.159



show me what, Show me what you accuse the Jews96800:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.559



of doing, and I'll show you what. Tell me what96900:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.320



you accuse the Jews of being guilty of, and I'll97000:52:06.320 --> 00:52:07.440



tell you what you're guilty of.97100:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.960



Oh okay, So Islam and.97200:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.480



You know Iran and all that stuff, they're like, they're97300:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.320



committing a genocide, they're trying to take over, They're doing this,97400:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.400



they're doing that, And it's like, bro, that's exactly what97500:52:19.480 --> 00:52:24.559



Islam is doing. Literally everywhere everything you die, everything you're saying.97600:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.159



The Jews and Israel a country. By the way, I97700:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.360



always have to bring this part up. It's the size97800:52:29.400 --> 00:52:35.840



of New Jersey, nine million people, nine billion people. They97900:52:35.880 --> 00:52:40.400



are point two percent of the global population, two percent98000:52:41.000 --> 00:52:46.480



of the American population, whereas Muslims are twenty five percent. Right,98100:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.840



So we have a base off of numbers and statistics98200:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.800



language rhetoric, like the amount of terrorist attacks we have98300:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.960



a fucking huge Muslim problem and a very very tiny98400:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.719



jew problem, right, and there is a problem there.98500:53:01.920 --> 00:53:05.199



I just hope you know, Okay, I already know everyone's98600:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.320



going to watch this and say we're anti Islam, and98700:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.559



you know Islam fucking right, I am, and I'm not.98800:53:09.639 --> 00:53:09.920



I'm not.98900:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.920



I'm not even gonna Look, here's the deal. I do99000:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.760



not Muslims. You said it earlier, right, there's a there's99100:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.119



a Muslim population that is peaceful because they ignore their99200:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.840



own religious doctrine. They have they have made it into99300:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.199



something that it is not. They have to ignore the99400:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.960



parts of the Quran that tell them command them to99500:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.480



do certain things. They literally aren't their own religion. They99600:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.639



are something else. And those those Muslims are wonderful people.99700:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.599



I know them. They're great.99800:53:41.039 --> 00:53:45.920



The vast majority of Muslims are great. But like I said,99900:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.679



if ten percent of them aren't, that's two hundred million100000:53:48.719 --> 00:53:50.599



people that want to cut your head off. So I'm100100:53:50.599 --> 00:53:51.559



not anti Muslim, I.100200:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.599



Am, no, No, No, it's it's the extreme right. It's it's100300:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.079



the extremists that are the issue. And it's it's equitable100400:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.199



to me, like, we don't live this way again, as100500:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.800



I said, you know, Old Testament, it was pretty cut100600:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.079



and dry. Well, we don't live that way. We progress100700:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.719



as a society or as a culture. And some some100800:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.559



of them, some of those are practice.100900:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.360



I like to put I want to push back on101000:54:10.400 --> 00:54:13.199



that a little bit, sure, because because the Old like101100:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.480



the argument that the Old Testament is, you know, like101200:54:16.519 --> 00:54:18.840



the fire and brimstone thing. It's like, even in the101300:54:18.880 --> 00:54:23.679



Old Testament, God says you save all of the judgment101400:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.440



for me, right, Even God says you do not enact101500:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.880



your your law and your rule over others.101600:54:31.960 --> 00:54:32.159



Right.101700:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.519



And then there's there's the parts of the Bible in101800:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.159



the Old Testament where they're like they're talking about how101900:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.679



if a person cheats, you stone them to death. That102000:54:40.800 --> 00:54:43.880



was for specific tribes, and it was for it was102100:54:44.079 --> 00:54:48.719



specific laws based off of specific needs. And like there's102200:54:48.880 --> 00:54:50.400



you know, like the slavery thing in there. It's like102300:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.039



it's there's a lot of nuance and you need to102400:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.400



contextualize it and understand it. But there is nothing in102500:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.400



the Old Testament or the New Testament that commands a102600:55:00.559 --> 00:55:06.360



person to unjustly subjugate another person. Everything in the Old102700:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.840



Testament can be contextualized for the time where it's there.102800:55:10.239 --> 00:55:13.800



You can explain it. You can't explain Islam. So yeah,102900:55:13.880 --> 00:55:19.239



I don't. I don't understand what you're saying. Old Testament was. Okay,103000:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.800



this is what I look at the Old Testament as103100:55:21.079 --> 00:55:21.400



it was.103200:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.239



It was. It was literally instructions and laws to keep103300:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.920



a tribe together that didn't have a land. That's exactly103400:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.440



what it was.103500:55:30.760 --> 00:55:31.000



Correct.103600:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.079



And the things you just brought up with, like the slavery,103700:55:33.159 --> 00:55:36.079



the stoning, those were what was happening at the time103800:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.000



within certain tribes. So yes, you gotta, you gotta, you103900:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.880



gotta look at the time periods like Okay, yes we104000:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.840



have slaves in America a long time ago. Was it104100:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.960



the right thing to do? No? But is what was104200:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.039



happening and people who lived through that period had to104300:55:48.079 --> 00:55:50.800



live through it. So there might be some statements, as104400:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.679



you said, that could be taken out of context because104500:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.480



you're not understanding what the individual is actually going through104600:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.320



or the era they're living through. So I understand that. Yeah,104700:55:59.519 --> 00:56:00.239



I agree.104800:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.880



And then but then but then again, like I said,104900:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.920



the Qoran, you can't you're not allowed to contextualize it,105000:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.079



right like that, like in their in their religion.105100:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.400



You don't get to have your own interpretation exactly.105200:56:11.480 --> 00:56:14.000



So if you don't get to interpret the Koran, but105300:56:14.079 --> 00:56:18.239



you can interpret the Bible, then we have a big105400:56:18.320 --> 00:56:22.840



problem because, like I said, it's ikea instruction. It's it's105500:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.760



it's A goes into B, he goes into C and105600:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.159



you kill or convert any infidels and like and and105700:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.400



I'm like, yo, that's the problem. Look, that's why I105800:56:34.440 --> 00:56:38.039



say I one thousand percent have a problem with Islam.105900:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.119



I do not have a problem with Muslims. Islam is106000:56:41.119 --> 00:56:45.159



the religion. Muslims are a people. There's a problem with106100:56:45.639 --> 00:56:51.719



the system. That's not me being like muslim phobic. That's106200:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.639



one hundred percent of me being Islamophobic.106300:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.000



Well, let's let me ask you this before we move106400:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.159



on from this topic. I mean, because look, there's never106500:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.320



going to be an answer to this, you know, but106600:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.079



there really isn't. You and I given a lot of this,106700:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.840



some people are going to oppose it. But as you106800:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.320



said before, I mean, there's a three thousand year old106900:57:08.360 --> 00:57:11.199



religious war regardless in the area, and everybody wants the107000:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.199



Holy Land. Everybody has a claim to it. Until Jesus107100:57:14.199 --> 00:57:18.119



comes back, it's not getting solved, right. But I'm going107200:57:18.159 --> 00:57:21.079



to ask you this October seventh. I believe Israel had107300:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.400



a right to retaliate. They should have. Anybody should. We107400:57:23.440 --> 00:57:26.000



would have. We probably would have obliterated. We would have107500:57:26.000 --> 00:57:27.920



done way worse. Oh I know for a fact we107600:57:27.960 --> 00:57:32.239



would have. Do you think at this point, though, is107700:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.760



there any period where they take a step back and go, look,107800:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.760



we made our statement, We'll let you know who we are.107900:57:38.039 --> 00:57:39.760



Should they reel it in a bit at this point?108000:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.039



Do you think that? Or do you think, hey, you108100:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.199



know what, let let them do what they got to do.108200:57:45.760 --> 00:57:49.679



It's a good question, and it's a valid question because108300:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.719



it has been over a year and a half. But again,108400:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.880



what I will point to is in the Ukraine Russian War,108500:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.400



I think it was seven thousand soldiers died last week108600:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.800



or before or something like that. Is anybody telling them108700:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.480



to rein it in? Is anybody telling them to pull108800:58:06.519 --> 00:58:10.239



it back? It's a war man. It's like, listen, I108900:58:10.280 --> 00:58:14.480



don't know the ins and outs of the military operations109000:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.440



going on in Israel. I don't know why they are109100:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.760



doing what they're doing, right, and if it turns out109200:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.320



that they are doing shit that they shouldn't be doing,109300:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.559



and I can see the evidence. I will one be like,109400:58:27.800 --> 00:58:32.119



whoa dude. No, But if we are only going off109500:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.119



of media reports, and we're only going off of Haret's109600:58:35.239 --> 00:58:39.519



articles and Al Jazero headlines, then no, I don't think109700:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.480



that we have a right to tell any other nation109800:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.800



how to fight their fucking war right. And and the109900:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.719



numbers that people are quoting I don't believe are the numbers,110000:58:49.840 --> 00:58:55.239



because you have the iyatola literally coming out last week110100:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.840



or this week and say, look at what we did.110200:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.320



We killed this many people, we did any it's a110300:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.239



fucking lie. He got his ass handed to him takiya literally,110400:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.079



lying is part of their doctrine. So when they say, oh,110500:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.079



fifty thousand civilians, a lot of them women and children,110600:59:11.119 --> 00:59:14.159



blah blah blah, bullshit, I don't. I not. By the way,110700:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.679



if you take one fucking look at Gaza, any reasonable110800:59:17.679 --> 00:59:21.440



person will be like, Israel definitely killed civilians. I mean one,110900:59:22.599 --> 00:59:23.960



And do I like it?111000:59:24.079 --> 00:59:29.800



No? But do I.111100:59:28.400 --> 00:59:34.079



Necessarily like that we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki?111200:59:34.559 --> 00:59:35.199



Not really?111300:59:35.400 --> 00:59:36.760



Do? Am I okay with it?111400:59:36.960 --> 00:59:37.400



Yeah?111500:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.239



Because I think that it saved more lives? I think111600:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.079



when you when you take out civilians and your goal111700:59:43.159 --> 00:59:46.280



is to save more lives in the long run. That's war,111800:59:46.440 --> 00:59:49.559



and war's hell. So I don't I just don't think111900:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.320



that we're I don't think that we're in a position,112000:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.079



especially with the shit that we've done, to tell anybody112100:59:55.079 --> 00:59:56.920



to pull it back or rein it in.112200:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.880



Yeah. I can agree with that, and I believe that.112301:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.079



But this is where the whole argument of the morality112401:00:04.079 --> 01:00:05.960



of the situation comes in from guys like you know,112501:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.800



Dave Smith. They can argue the morality of it all day.112601:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.199



A false binary it is. But you know, war as hell,112701:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.360



as it's been said, war as hell, and in war,112801:00:14.840 --> 01:00:18.039



you know, someone like Dave, if someone ran behind him,112901:00:18.039 --> 01:00:19.760



push him down, start raping in with the broomstick, is113001:00:19.760 --> 01:00:21.400



he going to try to argue the morality of it?113101:00:22.159 --> 01:00:24.960



He turns around, slaps on the face. Yeah, let's just113201:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.679



be real. Well, you know he's gonna have reaction. He's113301:00:27.679 --> 01:00:28.800



gonna have a violent reaction.113401:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.440



I came up with a with an analogy a while back.113501:00:31.519 --> 01:00:33.079



Let me see if I can remember it, because it113601:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.800



was a good one. But I'm going I think I113701:00:34.840 --> 01:00:40.199



only used it once. Okay, here's here's October seventh in113801:00:40.239 --> 01:00:43.280



an in an analogy form, right. I think it was113901:00:43.360 --> 01:00:47.119



Anna Anna, Anna Casparan, the young Turks. Check she made114001:00:47.400 --> 01:00:51.880



she made this this analogy like there's a gunman holding114101:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.960



a gun to your grandmother's head and the cops show114201:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.280



up and they shoot the grandmother to kill the gunman. Right,114301:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.519



And that's not what's really going on. Here's what really happened,114401:01:02.559 --> 01:01:07.360



all right, the like hamas the the gunman. Okay, they114501:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.880



actually went in and they killed that woman's whole family, right.114601:01:11.119 --> 01:01:13.440



Then they took her back to that house where they114701:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.599



were holding her hostage, and they locked her in her114801:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.480



room and they didn't tell anybody what the fuck which114901:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.679



room she was in. And then from the window they115001:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.079



went out and they yelled, I'm gonna do it again,115101:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.480



over and over and over again, and as soon as115201:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.000



you leave, I'm going to kill the rest of her family,115301:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.000



and I'm gonna kill your family too, and I'm gonna115401:01:31.039 --> 01:01:33.119



do this, I'm gonna do that. And then and then115501:01:33.599 --> 01:01:36.840



at a certain point, when do you blow up the house?115601:01:37.880 --> 01:01:38.840



Right, like like.115701:01:39.159 --> 01:01:43.320



When do you when do you say, hey, look shit,115801:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.400



I mean we don't want we don't want this, we115901:01:46.440 --> 01:01:50.320



don't want this to happen again. And sure, like, and116001:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.599



by the way, that the the hostage in this situation,116101:01:53.639 --> 01:01:56.719



The analogy doesn't really work in her in her interpretation,116201:01:56.840 --> 01:02:00.840



because it's she's saying that the hostages are the Palestinian116301:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.480



people and the real hostages were the actual Israeli people,116401:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.800



but they're used, they are they're using human shields while116501:02:09.960 --> 01:02:14.679



constantly saying that while they're firing rockets. Also, by the way, right,116601:02:15.639 --> 01:02:19.400



and anyone anyone who who doesn't almost right, seems like116701:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.880



it's it's hundreds a day, right, dozens a day now,116801:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.880



But at one point it was hundreds a day. It116901:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.679



was I think that I think that at one point117001:02:26.679 --> 01:02:31.039



it was seven thousand rockets, right, And it's like, at117101:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.239



one at what point do you say, Yeah, I kind117201:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.719



of am okay with killing civilians if it stops this ship.117301:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.519



And like, I that's that's my argument. Is it a117401:02:42.559 --> 01:02:43.719



moral one? No?117501:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.599



Is it a pragmatic one?117601:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.960



Yeah, it's that's a tough one. It's a tough one117701:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.159



to agree with or disagree with, because.117801:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.960



That's what I'm saying. Has this this false binary where117901:02:54.960 --> 01:02:57.920



it's like, no, killing wrong, And it's like, and that's118001:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.639



the thing. The woman that he was debating on Pierce Morgan.118101:03:01.960 --> 01:03:07.880



She goes, you're trying to make an equivalency between these118201:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.440



two these two people, right, Israel and and and Gaza118301:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.960



or Hamas. I guess you could say, right. And it's like,118401:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.320



that's like trying to make an equivalency between a cop118501:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.880



and a robber, because they're both pointing guns at each118601:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.039



other and they're both in fear for their lives. And118701:03:24.039 --> 01:03:28.079



it's like, no, they're one of them is a terrorist organization,118801:03:28.480 --> 01:03:32.880



the other one is a legitimate government that is abiding118901:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.440



by all international law and rules of war. I mean,119001:03:36.440 --> 01:03:39.280



and if they don't, then that's that's why we have119101:03:39.400 --> 01:03:41.159



these these organizations.119201:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.280



I don't I don't think anybody. I don't believe anybody119301:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.280



wants to see innocent people or civilians killed. Yeah, okay,119401:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.000



these these people are, unfortunately cott in the middle between119501:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.760



two governing bodies. You know. I wish that the governing119601:03:53.800 --> 01:03:55.760



bodies of leaders were just getting a fucking ring and119701:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.280



fight it out and leave the people out of it.119801:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.320



But that'll never happen. Yeah.119901:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.239



Well, but yeah, I mean, where where are where are120001:04:02.280 --> 01:04:08.000



the Hamas military installations? Where exactly are there military installations?120101:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.760



They're in apartment buildings, they're in hospitals.120201:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.639



There, right, And then that's where that's what I was120301:04:12.679 --> 01:04:14.840



going to get to, is that you know all the120401:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.400



hospitals they claim that are being destroyed, like you know120501:04:17.400 --> 01:04:18.679



how many hospitals are in Gaza?120601:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.119



By the way, they just keep on popping up.120701:04:21.880 --> 01:04:24.559



I mean, at some point I forgot what the percentage was,120801:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.079



but someone made a point. Don't quote me on this120901:04:27.239 --> 01:04:28.840



because I can't recall it all, but they were saying121001:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.480



like something like La or whatever, some county there's like121101:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.760



twenty six hospitals within a certain area, and then you121201:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.159



got Gaza has over two hundred hospitals somehow, and it's121301:04:36.159 --> 01:04:39.760



a much smaller area, just like are is this not121401:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.840



just a practice of deception in war?121501:04:42.559 --> 01:04:47.880



Well, here's here's another question nobody's really asking, right, Gaza121601:04:48.239 --> 01:04:52.239



is just a few miles really like it's a small strip.121701:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.719



It's a small relatively, right, relatively, it's a really small.121801:04:55.559 --> 01:04:56.519



It's in like three miles.121901:04:56.840 --> 01:04:58.800



I think it's I think it's about I think it's122001:04:58.800 --> 01:05:03.800



about three miles. Okay, So now October seventh was over122101:05:03.920 --> 01:05:07.000



over a year and a half ago. Okay, how how122201:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.679



long does it take for somebody to walk three miles122301:05:09.719 --> 01:05:11.880



because I know it doesn't take I know it doesn't122401:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.960



take two fucking years. Right, So as soon as the122501:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.119



first fucking bomb went off, right, I, if I was122601:05:18.199 --> 01:05:20.639



a Palestinian, I would be like, I'm gonna go out122701:05:20.679 --> 01:05:24.159



into the like I don't care into the ether. I'll122801:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.880



I'll build a treehouse somewhere. But I'm not fucking staying here.122901:05:28.119 --> 01:05:29.760



So why are civilians there?123001:05:30.000 --> 01:05:30.159



Right?123101:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.800



Why are they there? Because Hamas won't let them leave.123201:05:32.920 --> 01:05:34.679



No, they won't let them leave. That that's a that's123301:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.119



a that's a good point that nobody ever brings up.123401:05:38.320 --> 01:05:39.920



You know. The argument is like, well, deir Lan, why123501:05:39.920 --> 01:05:41.760



should they leave their own home. Well, they're not given123601:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.840



the opportunityies bombs. That's why, Yeah, lost won't let them go.123701:05:46.320 --> 01:05:49.440



I love I love San Antonio, I love my apartment,123801:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.039



I love where I live. My neighborhood is fucking awesome. Right,123901:05:52.199 --> 01:05:54.239



if a fucking bomb went off tomorrow, you know what124001:05:54.239 --> 01:05:55.480



I would do, I'd fucking leave.124101:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.239



That's a that's a really good reason to who have124201:06:00.280 --> 01:06:01.800



will really fast and figuring it out.124301:06:01.719 --> 01:06:08.599



Right, that's the dumbest argument ever. They're standing. They're staying124401:06:08.599 --> 01:06:11.159



there because they're well.124501:06:10.360 --> 01:06:12.519



You know what. The other question that has never been124601:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.559



answered is you know they blame Israel for the aid124701:06:15.639 --> 01:06:19.480



never getting to the Palatine people. Answer why before all124801:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.119



this happened, that Hamas and the leaders of most extremist124901:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.079



islam As governing bodies always seem to get rich from125001:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.320



the aid that is given to that country, but yet125101:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.599



the people always remain poor and hungry.125201:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.960



Exactly, Well, no, take it one step further, sure, why125301:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.519



do they need Why does Israel? Why is Israel required125401:06:40.079 --> 01:06:41.320



to allow aid in there?125501:06:41.559 --> 01:06:41.719



Right?125601:06:42.440 --> 01:06:46.239



No other nation in history is required to feed their enemy,125701:06:46.480 --> 01:06:50.199



right like, and for for some reason, this one is now.125801:06:50.400 --> 01:06:54.719



I think they should. But but my question was why. Right,125901:06:55.199 --> 01:06:59.039



here's the answer, Because they're not feeding their enemy, they're126001:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.880



feeding their own thought people. Because Gaza is in Israel,126101:07:02.920 --> 01:07:07.400



it's not a country, it is in Israel. Israel has126201:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.719



a moral obligation to get aid in there, and they126301:07:10.800 --> 01:07:15.199



have an absolute right to restrict it, to inspect it,126401:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.840



to use it as a bargaining chip, because guess what,126501:07:19.360 --> 01:07:23.480



it's technically a civil war. It's technically a region in126601:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.320



Israel firing at the main body of Israel. So I126701:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.119



don't have any problem if Israel were to be like,126801:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.679



you know what, no food until you stop fucking around.126901:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.920



But that's not what they're doing. Well, that they're actually127001:07:35.960 --> 01:07:39.320



allowing the they're allowing the aid in. They're just they're127101:07:39.320 --> 01:07:42.639



just allowing it in under their terms.127201:07:42.480 --> 01:07:47.840



That's that's an interesting take, But the reality is okay, Israel.127301:07:48.239 --> 01:07:52.039



Israel relinquished its control of GAZ. I believe two thousand127401:07:52.039 --> 01:07:57.920



and six, five thousand and six, control not ownership fair enough.127501:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.639



But they're not supposed to be controlling it, right, Okay.127601:08:01.719 --> 01:08:03.920



So so HAMAS is the government body of the policy,127701:08:03.920 --> 01:08:07.239



and so any negotiations should be between the Israeli government127801:08:07.280 --> 01:08:10.840



and HAMAS. Yeah, I should become on the table to say, hey,127901:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.599



we need water, we need electricity. Where are we going128001:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.079



to get it from? We're kind of cut off. Can128101:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.600



you help us out? But they don't do that. So128201:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.640



I get your point. But you know, it's all about optics,128301:08:24.680 --> 01:08:26.800



I believe, you know, And that's the bigger reason I128401:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.000



believe that they're being forced to do this. Do they128501:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.840



have to know? And war you don't have to But128601:08:31.880 --> 01:08:34.079



I think it's it's really comes down to what you said.128701:08:34.479 --> 01:08:36.399



It may it may be them taking care of their people.128801:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.119



Or just realizing, look, there's innocence here that shouldn't be128901:08:39.239 --> 01:08:41.319



caught in the middle of all of this. And I129001:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.239



believe that they see that, the world sees that. The129101:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.720



problem is you know, terrorists fight dirty, period. You know,129201:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.800



they fight dirty. There's no there's no there's no playbook129301:08:50.840 --> 01:08:51.039



for this.129401:08:51.479 --> 01:08:55.560



Everybody who's arguing.129501:08:54.039 --> 01:08:57.399



Yeah, everybody's arguing what Israel's doing right or wrong in129601:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.359



a war are the people that aren't even involved in it.129701:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.720



Okay, so right away in it. Yeah, but I would129801:09:04.760 --> 01:09:07.399



just put that out there. So you said that, but129901:09:07.479 --> 01:09:11.920



you said that Israel, Israel should be negotiating with the130001:09:11.920 --> 01:09:13.600



governing body of Palestine.130101:09:13.640 --> 01:09:15.039



Well in both ways is what I'm saying.130201:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.760



Yeah, yeah, sure, no, and they should they should, right,130301:09:17.920 --> 01:09:23.199



But if it's a government, what what's their currency, right?130401:09:23.520 --> 01:09:27.960



Their currency is the Israel shekel and the dinari. Right,130501:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.159



they don't have their own currency. They don't have a130601:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.279



real president. They got the you know, the Palestonian authority,130701:09:35.319 --> 01:09:37.600



and they got this like fake president. Their leaders are130801:09:37.600 --> 01:09:42.680



in Qatar, uh in Gaza, but they don't have a130901:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.760



real government. They have they have a group.131001:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.720



That's okay, I'm sorry, representative body.131101:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.680



That's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, no, and you're right,131201:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.039



you're right, right. But so that's what I mean by131301:09:53.079 --> 01:09:54.760



I'm saying it's a civil war. It would kind of131401:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.880



be like like the governor of Texas are like negotiating131501:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.840



with the President of America if there was a succession,131601:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.079



right like, So that's what it's. That's the better, the131701:10:06.119 --> 01:10:08.479



better analogy. And I'm not saying that you made a131801:10:08.479 --> 01:10:10.479



different analogy. I'm just I'm just making a point of131901:10:10.479 --> 01:10:14.159



clarification so that people understand that they don't you don't132001:10:14.159 --> 01:10:17.319



want to create this idea that these are two sovereign132101:10:17.399 --> 01:10:19.760



nations that are I'm.132201:10:19.079 --> 01:10:20.560



Not I'm not not no, no.132301:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.039



I'm not saying I'm not saying you are. I'm not132401:10:22.039 --> 01:10:24.079



saying you are right. But what I'm saying is there132501:10:24.119 --> 01:10:26.720



are a lot of people that frame this as if132601:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.760



Israel should or has to negotiate with these people, as132701:10:31.840 --> 01:10:35.600



if they were a sovereign state. They're not right, So132801:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.680



it's a completely different It's like it's a weird situation, right.132901:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.640



You have you have Ukraine and Russia, right, two countries133001:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.880



right fighting over a land grab, and I would I133101:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.319



would make arguments against both of their leaders uh. As133201:10:49.319 --> 01:10:51.640



far as corruption and as far as how they've handled133301:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.520



the situation, I don't see a good guy there. But133401:10:56.720 --> 01:10:58.960



what they really are, they're what they're both fighting for133501:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.920



is their people. I will say that I think that133601:11:01.279 --> 01:11:05.479



they are both fighting for their their their nation.133701:11:05.920 --> 01:11:06.119



Right.133801:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.239



The war in Israel is a completely different animal because133901:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.159



it's it's an ideological war. It's not a political war.134001:11:13.199 --> 01:11:14.680



It's not a war for the people, it's not a134101:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.479



war for It is a war for ideology. You have134201:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.039



one side that they want to kill the other side134301:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.680



they don't want to negotiate. Then you have the other134401:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.000



side who has to negotiate with people who want to134501:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.359



kill them, right, And it's it's completely different, right. So134601:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.239



I just don't see how you look through you look134701:11:32.239 --> 01:11:34.640



at it, not you, but some people look at it134801:11:34.720 --> 01:11:40.319



through a normal lens of previous conflicts. There's no comparison,134901:11:40.840 --> 01:11:43.319



and and I think that's an important distinction to make135001:11:43.359 --> 01:11:45.079



so people understand when they make the argument.135101:11:45.319 --> 01:11:47.600



Well, I think I think in the end, the issue135201:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.920



with this whole conflict is I believe many people just135301:11:50.960 --> 01:11:54.439



think Israel went too far at this point. And again135401:11:54.560 --> 01:11:56.000



I think that's what it is. I think that's what135501:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.439



people are hung up on. Look, and it's a pretty135601:11:58.439 --> 01:12:00.760



big hang up. I mean, I'm not trying to I'm135701:12:00.800 --> 01:12:02.560



not trying to make this seem like a small issue.135801:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.920



It is just I think that's not where it lies.135901:12:05.319 --> 01:12:09.279



And I'm not making excuses necessarily for Israel what I136001:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.760



But I have said this since since the beginning of136101:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.239



this war. I don't really I mean, I have a136201:12:16.279 --> 01:12:18.720



dog in the fight because you know, I believe in136301:12:18.760 --> 01:12:22.840



the Abrahamic Covenant, right I am a Christian who is136401:12:23.199 --> 01:12:26.840



observant of the Old Testament, which I think most Christians136501:12:26.880 --> 01:12:31.079



should be. So I think that I have a duty136601:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.640



to stand up for the Jewish people, not a modern136701:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.479



nation state of Israel, just because it shares the same136801:12:37.600 --> 01:12:41.359



name as someplace in the Bible. But I do know that,136901:12:41.479 --> 01:12:43.640



you know, you got nine million Rican Jews over there,137001:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.439



and I'm like, hey, I got to kind of take137101:12:45.439 --> 01:12:50.279



a side here. But I have been of the mindset137201:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.600



that they haven't gone far enough, right oka. Not because137301:12:53.720 --> 01:12:57.560



not because that not because I think that.137401:12:59.479 --> 01:13:00.079



It would be.137501:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.800



What's it called, like reaction, Not because I think that137601:13:05.840 --> 01:13:07.520



it would be like you know, George Bush going into137701:13:07.520 --> 01:13:10.239



iraqan being like you killed our people, I'm saying, I137801:13:10.279 --> 01:13:16.119



think that they should have done a consolidated, just massive137901:13:16.159 --> 01:13:18.520



attack right away, and I think the situation will be138001:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.800



over by now. I think the mistake they made was138101:13:21.880 --> 01:13:25.000



not going far enough early, and now they're sort of138201:13:25.239 --> 01:13:29.760



dripping out these attacks and prolonging it and stretching it out,138301:13:29.880 --> 01:13:34.920



and it's giving the appearance of a disproportionate response when138401:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.279



in actuality, they could have just bombed the whole region138501:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.199



had the exact same amount of desk that they have138601:13:39.399 --> 01:13:43.000



spread out over the past, you know, eighteen months or138701:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.880



whatever it is, and people would probably have gotten over138801:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.920



it by now. So that's where I think that a138901:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.159



lot of people are getting that notion.139001:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.920



Okay, I think what Israel was trying to do is139101:13:53.960 --> 01:13:55.560



get rid of the root of the problem, going back139201:13:55.560 --> 01:14:00.079



to that statement, which was the terrorist organization, which was Hamas.139301:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.880



So they were trying to do strategic attacks, strategic missions139401:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.359



and operations to get those individuals. So that's why this139501:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.439



has been dragging out. And you're correct, they could have139601:14:10.600 --> 01:14:14.880



obliterated Gaza, but yeah, they would could have been limited139701:14:14.920 --> 01:14:18.319



to criminals because then we're looking at wiping out the139801:14:18.399 --> 01:14:22.479



innocence an Unfortunately they're trying to walk this tight rope139901:14:22.520 --> 01:14:24.760



of Look, we need to take care of this. I140001:14:24.760 --> 01:14:28.439



can give a fuck less versus we need to strategically140101:14:28.479 --> 01:14:31.079



take out Hamas. Who's the instigators and the people they're140201:14:31.199 --> 01:14:32.920



driving this entire thing.140301:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.239



Well, exactly, they're damned if they do They're damned if140401:14:35.279 --> 01:14:38.920



they done right right, Because what you said is that140501:14:38.960 --> 01:14:40.680



would have been a war crime. I don't think so.140601:14:40.960 --> 01:14:42.960



I don't think that would have been a war crime. No, no, no, no.140701:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.840



If you saw, if if you had October seventh happen140801:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.720



and is and BB said drop a bomb on Gaza140901:14:49.720 --> 01:14:51.560



and get rid of that three mile strip of land141001:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.399



right now, I don't think that's a war crime. And141101:14:54.760 --> 01:14:56.359



he would have had he would have literally said he141201:14:56.399 --> 01:15:00.000



would be like, called all two hundred and fifty hostile141301:15:00.279 --> 01:15:04.359



families and tell them, I'm sorry, but your your family141401:15:04.359 --> 01:15:05.359



members not coming home.141501:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.640



They're going to be a casualty of war. I think141601:15:07.640 --> 01:15:09.479



it would have been a war crime if they did that.141701:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.119



But but here's what they could do. What they have done,141801:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.439



by the way, Zach, which does support your argument, is141901:15:14.479 --> 01:15:18.159



they have given the people fair warning. They have said, yeah, evacuate,142001:15:18.199 --> 01:15:22.319



take shelter. This is happening. The problem though, is as142101:15:22.319 --> 01:15:25.000



you as you mentioned earlier, is SAMAS won't let those142201:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.680



people leave. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.142301:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.920



So again it's it's an impossible situation. John Spencer breaks142401:15:30.920 --> 01:15:35.159



this down in several different articles that he's written where142501:15:35.239 --> 01:15:37.319



he talks about the complexity and how this has never142601:15:37.359 --> 01:15:41.560



happened before in any modern warfare. Where there's been there's142701:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.720



been some comparative comparisons to embedding in civilian areas in142801:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.960



Nazi Germany, et cetera, et cetera. But this level of142901:15:49.800 --> 01:15:54.159



consolidation while simultaneously not allowing the people that are there143001:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.279



to leave to with the intent of having them as143101:15:57.359 --> 01:16:01.800



human shields. It's never happened throughout history. Is negotiating something143201:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.640



that's never been there, navigating of course that nobody's ever143301:16:06.920 --> 01:16:10.000



gone down. And I don't know, I think there, I143401:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.159



don't really. I don't think again that we have a143501:16:14.279 --> 01:16:20.319



right to play armchair quarterback when they're the ones that143601:16:20.560 --> 01:16:27.359



have to decide what's best for their sovereignty. Like like again,143701:16:27.520 --> 01:16:32.800



we we literally bombed, we bombed Hiroshima, and we said143801:16:32.960 --> 01:16:35.840



to the Japanese, are you done? And they said no,143901:16:36.640 --> 01:16:40.800



fuck you and then we bombed Nagasaki and we said144001:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.800



are you done now, and they went yeah, right, right.144101:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.359



So I don't understand how it's a war crime when144201:16:47.800 --> 01:16:52.640



you can justify the same justification that we used in144301:16:53.279 --> 01:16:57.319



that operation. More people will die if we don't do144401:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.479



this right. And okay, hold on.144501:17:00.760 --> 01:17:02.920



We're not arguing, by the way, I'm just what I'm144601:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.560



going to say is I think I think the difference144701:17:04.600 --> 01:17:07.319



being is we know better now, right. So those bombs144801:17:07.319 --> 01:17:11.920



that were dropped Nagasaki, Hiroshima, we didn't really understand the144901:17:12.119 --> 01:17:16.239



entire situation or what would happen dropping an atomic bomb,145001:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.039



for example, we didn't know what the fall art would145101:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.439



to be. We had no idea the actual impact. We145201:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.680



had studies, we had tests, but no one's ever dropped145301:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.760



one before. That's why now, you know, everyone's so hesitant145401:17:26.840 --> 01:17:29.000



to do it again, because we know the difference.145501:17:29.359 --> 01:17:32.000



I'm not even saying that they should have nuked Gaza,145601:17:32.079 --> 01:17:34.039



by the way, I'm just saying.145701:17:34.399 --> 01:17:36.399



I'm just saying the difference between that situation is now145801:17:36.560 --> 01:17:39.399



and now is really we know better, we know we145901:17:39.439 --> 01:17:41.319



know the ramification, we know what will happen.146001:17:42.039 --> 01:17:43.800



I mean, you don't drop a nuke three miles from146101:17:43.800 --> 01:17:47.640



your house. Well, no fair enough. But look, I mean,146201:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.800



but look like I think that I'm not a military146301:17:50.800 --> 01:17:53.479



I'm not a military strategist, so I shouldn't I shouldn't146401:17:53.479 --> 01:17:55.800



even be talking about this because I'm really just opining.146501:17:55.880 --> 01:17:59.600



I'm just a contractor that's giving my opinion. So could146601:17:59.640 --> 01:18:02.560



I be wrong one hundred percent? Am I There's a146701:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.399



huge possibility I'm wrong. I'm a contractor, right, But but146801:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.720



I do read I read the John Spencer articles. I146901:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.439



try to be as educated as I can on this147001:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.039



and and I'm offering my opinion because you asked me147101:18:15.039 --> 01:18:17.399



a question. But here's here's what I will say.147201:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.920



Right. I know for.147301:18:19.920 --> 01:18:25.399



A fact, based off of my research, that the civilian147401:18:25.960 --> 01:18:31.640



to combatant ratio in this particular war is either on147501:18:31.840 --> 01:18:37.079



par or below other comparable conflicts. I know for a147601:18:37.119 --> 01:18:41.119



fact that Israel is telling these people. I have so147701:18:41.199 --> 01:18:45.399



many friends in Israel, They're like, they give me this information.147801:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.279



Over the past eighteen months, Israel is sending out leaflets,147901:18:49.399 --> 01:18:54.600



sending out mass texts, sending out sirens. So every time148001:18:54.640 --> 01:18:58.479



they try to bomb a target, they do everything they148101:18:58.520 --> 01:19:00.560



can to get these people. Give these people heads up148201:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.840



which is also giving the terrorists a heads up.148301:19:04.199 --> 01:19:06.000



So I don't see.148401:19:06.119 --> 01:19:09.439



From a three thousand foot you know view, I don't148501:19:09.520 --> 01:19:14.760



see them going like you said, like too far. I148601:19:14.800 --> 01:19:20.319



see them. I see them trying to thread a very148701:19:20.359 --> 01:19:25.199



small needle. And I don't know. And hey, look, if148801:19:25.199 --> 01:19:27.399



it turns out like I said, if we look back148901:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.199



on this in five years, ten years, shifty years, right,149001:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.840



if we get all the information after the fact, and149101:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.479



we find out that Israel actually was just indiscriminately bombing149201:19:36.479 --> 01:19:38.159



people and they lie to all of us and everything149301:19:38.159 --> 01:19:40.159



like that, I'm going to be their first critic because149401:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.199



I have no loyalty to the nation state or governing149501:19:44.279 --> 01:19:48.319



body of Israel. I have a loyalty to the Jewish149601:19:48.399 --> 01:19:51.880



people because I believe in the Abrahamic Covenant, right, and149701:19:51.960 --> 01:19:54.880



anybody that's doing shit like that that some people are149801:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.119



accusing all the Jews of, even though it would just149901:19:58.199 --> 01:20:01.439



be a small part of of a government which probably150001:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.640



has corruption in it, because every government does. You're not150101:20:04.640 --> 01:20:06.960



going to get any argument from me, right, I'm not.150201:20:07.199 --> 01:20:07.439



I'm not.150301:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.880



I don't have a blind loyalty to to anything other150401:20:12.920 --> 01:20:16.000



than the Bible. And I mean, I would say pretty150501:20:16.119 --> 01:20:18.479



pretty much the Constitution, cause the two books that I150601:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.359



really follow without asking questions of the constitution of the Bible.150701:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.760



Okay, so the I'm going to say something that I'm150801:20:25.760 --> 01:20:29.560



sure is very controversial because this is what I think.150901:20:30.319 --> 01:20:34.600



I say, let Israel starting and their own wars man. Yeah,151001:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.720



you know, if if they if they want to start something,151101:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.439



let them end it. If someone attacks them, let them retaliate. Sure,151201:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.039



and they're going to have to deal with the consequences151301:20:42.039 --> 01:20:43.920



on how they handle that. That's my opinion of it.151401:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.000



And I understand they're one of our greatest allies and151501:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000



we're always going to be there to, you know, protect151601:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.279



our little brother, as they say. But at the same time,151701:20:51.319 --> 01:20:53.439



I mean, at what point do you let them just151801:20:53.439 --> 01:20:56.079



stand on their own? At what point do you just say, look,151901:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.319



here's your situation, this is what happened, do what you152001:20:59.319 --> 01:21:02.439



gotta do. See, but we always have to get involved.152101:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.960



I think that that argument doesn't hold water because they152201:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.239



are they It's not just their war, right, and it's152301:21:11.279 --> 01:21:15.600



not just because the same people that they're fighting chant152401:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.399



death to America and death to Israel. It's more of152501:21:21.600 --> 01:21:26.239



our interests are their interests. So I would say that152601:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.840



when a lot of people are looking at it like152701:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.319



there are ally they're a little bro and they're friends,152801:21:33.359 --> 01:21:37.159



so we gotta go fight because of them. And I152901:21:37.239 --> 01:21:39.039



don't think that that's the way to look at it.153001:21:39.119 --> 01:21:43.560



I think that when they fight somebody, we have an153101:21:43.680 --> 01:21:48.159



opportunity to jump in for our own benefit. And that's153201:21:48.199 --> 01:21:50.520



the way I view it right where it's like, hey man,153301:21:50.600 --> 01:21:52.960



you're no fucking like, hey, Timmy over there is fucking153401:21:53.039 --> 01:21:54.960



up that dude that said he was gonna fuck your sister,153501:21:55.239 --> 01:21:57.000



And it's like, oh, okay, I'm gonna go over there153601:21:57.039 --> 01:21:59.439



and fuck him up too, because they also don't look153701:21:59.439 --> 01:22:00.760



because I all so don't like that.153801:22:00.800 --> 01:22:07.239



Here, here's your counter. Okay, I understand what you're saying,153901:22:07.239 --> 01:22:09.319



because it's true. We do look out for our own interests.154001:22:09.359 --> 01:22:11.479



Israel is very strategic for us in terms of a154101:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.039



military position within the area.154201:22:13.319 --> 01:22:13.680



Period.154301:22:14.239 --> 01:22:17.439



We have a presence with an ally that we don't154401:22:17.479 --> 01:22:19.319



have anywhere else in at least not to the level154501:22:19.359 --> 01:22:22.600



we got with Israel. Sure, but my argument is there154601:22:22.600 --> 01:22:25.079



has been times where Israel's gone into conflicts with other154701:22:25.199 --> 01:22:29.880



nations that might upset the geopolitical relationships if we get involved,154801:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.960



especially when we're talking about resources, you know, more than154901:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.520



more like oil, et cetera. So that I think that's155001:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.399



my point. I'm not saying that you're wrong, because yes,155101:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.039



we do have to protect our interest, but if our155201:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.479



ally is putting us in a position that pretty much155301:22:44.479 --> 01:22:48.000



fucks up the relationships we have or that negotiations we155401:22:48.039 --> 01:22:51.119



have with other countries, it kind of does get sticky.155501:22:51.159 --> 01:22:52.560



At some point you got to be like, hey, you155601:22:52.600 --> 01:22:55.760



need to chill the fuck out. Look absolutely right.155701:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.760



And this is the exact same argument I would make155801:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.399



against Zelensky, right, where it's like it's like, look, man,155901:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.039



frickin' I don't even consider you an ally, but everybody156001:23:06.039 --> 01:23:09.319



else does. So like, look, we're gonna get your back156101:23:09.319 --> 01:23:13.880



with poot, but when you start pulling some shit, we're156201:23:13.880 --> 01:23:18.119



gonna you're on your own. And so I think that's156301:23:17.479 --> 01:23:20.960



a very valid argument to apply to Israel, because you.156401:23:20.880 --> 01:23:23.199



Don't you don't just blindly like again a right.156501:23:23.199 --> 01:23:25.359



So the analogy with Timmy is in a fight with156601:23:25.399 --> 01:23:28.319



the guy that said he wants to fuck your sister, right, Yeah, okay,156701:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.359



so we both want to fuck that guy up. But156801:23:30.439 --> 01:23:32.039



if Timmy just starts getting into a fight with some156901:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.079



random dude at the bar who did nothing wrong. We're157001:23:34.079 --> 01:23:37.760



not backing up Timmy. So that's that's the analogy right157101:23:37.760 --> 01:23:41.039



where it's like, if Israel's interests align with our interests,157201:23:41.159 --> 01:23:43.800



then sure I want to get involved. If Israel's interests157301:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.600



do not align with our interests, leave them the fuck157401:23:46.640 --> 01:23:50.119



alone and let them do So there's the clarification. Yeah, absolutely,157501:23:50.439 --> 01:23:51.760



absolutely understood.157601:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.600



Let's let's get off this topic for a bit because157701:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.520



we've been at it for a while. Sure, I agree.157801:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.359



I want to get to some of your social media157901:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.479



stuff if you're okay with that. Yeah, all right. So158001:24:01.840 --> 01:24:03.640



as you as you said earlier in the beginning, as158101:24:03.680 --> 01:24:06.119



you do call people out, you know, because you believe, hey,158201:24:06.119 --> 01:24:08.680



they're getting away with running their mouths but not really158301:24:08.760 --> 01:24:10.680



you know, backing up with any real facts or just158401:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.720



you know, they're being bolstered by by their fans. You've158501:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.680



also let's do this first, because you've said this on158601:24:17.680 --> 01:24:21.119



social media, can you please because I don't pay attention158701:24:21.159 --> 01:24:25.600



to it much to me, woke, right, you said a158801:24:25.640 --> 01:24:27.439



little bit in the beginning, but can you kind of158901:24:27.439 --> 01:24:29.479



define it better because I'm trying to understand it and159001:24:29.479 --> 01:24:30.920



there's a lot of other people that have opinions on159101:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.520



what it actually means. Yeah.159201:24:32.560 --> 01:24:34.520



See, look, so I was calling I was calling out159301:24:34.520 --> 01:24:36.199



the woke right, and I was calling them the woke159401:24:36.319 --> 01:24:40.920



right in like twenty twenty one, James Lindsay, Bless his heart.159501:24:41.399 --> 01:24:44.600



I like James Lindsay. He's sort of become the figurehead159601:24:44.600 --> 01:24:47.520



and the spokesperson for this whole calling out the woke159701:24:47.600 --> 01:24:50.399



right movement. But he makes it a very intellectual argument159801:24:50.760 --> 01:24:55.760



and he tries to, in my opinion, complicated way too much,159901:24:55.840 --> 01:24:59.479



and people really get lost in the definition. Here's the definition.160001:24:59.680 --> 01:25:03.199



This is the dumbed down version right woke. The woke160101:25:03.279 --> 01:25:07.800



ideology right was started by the black community when they160201:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.960



were saying that they they are they are being oppressed160301:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.119



right by the white man, and now we are awake,160401:25:13.279 --> 01:25:15.760



we are woke. We you have your boot on our160501:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.760



neck and we have woken up. Right, So that's where160601:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.159



that comes from. So it is an oppressor oppressed victim160701:25:23.199 --> 01:25:28.640



mentality that is responsible for movements like BLM, Antifa, et cetera. Okay,160801:25:28.920 --> 01:25:34.119



that's woke. Now the left side of the argument where160901:25:34.359 --> 01:25:37.359



you say woke left right, So you have oppressor oppressed161001:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.560



and then you have what their ideology is how do161101:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.119



you fix it? How do you fix the the oppressor161201:25:43.119 --> 01:25:48.399



oppressed relationship? Right? And it's it's i would say, like socialism, Marxism,161301:25:48.600 --> 01:25:51.840



you know, like whatever. Then you have the woke. Right now,161401:25:51.840 --> 01:25:56.439



there is an oppressor oppressed, right, globalist Jews they have161501:25:56.560 --> 01:26:01.399



the same like victim mentality, right, like there this this161601:26:01.520 --> 01:26:03.800



people group is responsible for all of our problems.161701:26:03.880 --> 01:26:04.079



Right.161801:26:04.960 --> 01:26:07.840



A lot of conspiracy theorists, truthers, they think that they161901:26:07.840 --> 01:26:11.479



think that there's these this grand conspiracy against them. But162001:26:11.560 --> 01:26:14.840



how what is what is their solution to the problem? Right,162101:26:14.880 --> 01:26:16.920



So on the left you have socialism. On the right162201:26:16.920 --> 01:26:21.079



you have nationalism and isolationism. So you have two sides162301:26:21.079 --> 01:26:24.359



at the same point. You have a victim mentality, oppressor, oppressed.162401:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.399



We we are waking up? What are the what are162501:26:27.439 --> 01:26:28.600



the grapers call themselves?162601:26:28.760 --> 01:26:30.399



Noticers? Right? You know?162701:26:31.079 --> 01:26:38.960



Notice notice wake woke, Notice say their synonyms so woke162801:26:39.119 --> 01:26:44.920



right essentially means an oppressed group of people that wants162901:26:44.960 --> 01:26:51.159



to fix the uh, the the dynamic by being isolationists163001:26:51.680 --> 01:26:56.600



or nationalists. Right, They basically have have decided we are163101:26:57.439 --> 01:27:02.039



we are oppressed by in are here? Usually it's the163201:27:02.119 --> 01:27:06.680



Jews usually it's the globalist and the way to fix163301:27:06.720 --> 01:27:14.640



this problem is nationalism, right, or or Christian nationalism freaking whatever.163401:27:15.359 --> 01:27:17.680



It's the same exact thing the left says. The left says,163501:27:17.720 --> 01:27:20.600



we need to get rid of capitalism, we need to163601:27:21.439 --> 01:27:26.279



redistribute wealth, we need to have reparations, et cetera, et cetera.163701:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.359



They're so similar. The only difference is how they want163801:27:30.479 --> 01:27:34.640



to attack the person they think is responsible for all163901:27:34.680 --> 01:27:37.680



of their problems. So that's woke right in a nutshell.164001:27:37.880 --> 01:27:39.079



It's the best way to describe it.164101:27:39.119 --> 01:27:40.359



Now. Here's the thing.164201:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.880



You can also just not call them woke right right,164301:27:43.920 --> 01:27:45.760



because you can call them dissident right. You can call164401:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.079



them reactionary right, you can call them far right, radical right,164501:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.279



you can call them any other thing that you want, right.164601:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.279



But if you really are breaking down what they are about,164701:27:54.479 --> 01:27:58.960



woke right is the most accurate terminology because it hype it.164801:27:58.960 --> 01:28:02.279



It defines the oppressor oppressed narrative.164901:28:02.600 --> 01:28:02.800



Right.165001:28:02.960 --> 01:28:09.479



There is some weird obsession with not being accountable for165101:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.800



your own shit. Right, It's like, sure, are there bad people?165201:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.640



Are there is there you know? Psyops going on? Is165301:28:16.680 --> 01:28:21.439



their conspiracies? Are there some Jews that are bad?165401:28:21.520 --> 01:28:21.880



People.165501:28:22.319 --> 01:28:27.159



Yeah, sure, right, but you don't fix the problem by165601:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.600



essentially trying to impose radical ideologies on the rest of165701:28:31.640 --> 01:28:32.039



the world.165801:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.119



They're just two sides to the same coin.165901:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.000



Really, then it's just radicalism, yeah, as a solution to166001:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.880



a problem. That's what it really is. It's radicalism as166101:28:40.920 --> 01:28:44.520



a solution to a problem. Right, It's like the far166201:28:44.640 --> 01:28:48.640



left are. And by the way, the horseshoe theory is166301:28:48.720 --> 01:28:52.560



just a lucky coincidence, right, the woke right and woke left.166401:28:52.920 --> 01:28:57.039



Like I said, the definition is just oppress or oppressed.166501:28:57.199 --> 01:29:00.239



Here's how to fix it. Get radical and impose your use.166601:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.279



Think about horseshoe theory though, right, First of all, you166701:29:03.319 --> 01:29:08.239



have the you have the uh both sides hate the Jews, right, right,166801:29:09.319 --> 01:29:13.720



and and then you have Marxist ideologies right like, so166901:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.960



you have on both sides, right, you have a desire167001:29:18.319 --> 01:29:21.000



to impose your ideology on the other. So what is167101:29:21.039 --> 01:29:22.600



the What does the left want to do? The left167201:29:22.600 --> 01:29:25.359



wants to make abortion legal up until birth right, what167301:29:25.479 --> 01:29:26.720



is the right want to do? They want to get167401:29:26.800 --> 01:29:29.359



rid of every abortion right they want They want you167501:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.079



to not be able to get one right.167601:29:31.199 --> 01:29:32.560



They are extreme used.167701:29:32.560 --> 01:29:35.199



They are literally the far sides of both of both167801:29:35.199 --> 01:29:38.239



sides of this argument. And most people are in the middle.167901:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.199



They are not the majority, they're not the base. They're168001:29:41.239 --> 01:29:45.239



not They're not there. And and the thing is, here's168101:29:45.279 --> 01:29:49.199



the difference between these sides. By the way, the right,168201:29:49.800 --> 01:29:53.039



as far as I can tell, is rejecting their woke168301:29:53.640 --> 01:29:56.960



the left is electing them as the mayor of New168401:29:57.039 --> 01:29:57.479



York City.168501:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.039



They're embracing it, They're running hard with it.168601:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.560



So if you if you want to say, like, look,168701:30:02.279 --> 01:30:04.359



I don't want to. I'm not taking all the credit.168801:30:04.399 --> 01:30:06.439



I'm not taking most of the credit. I'm taking some168901:30:06.479 --> 01:30:09.279



credit though, because I've been blowing the whistle on this169001:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.239



for for a while. I'm one of the biggest voices169101:30:12.279 --> 01:30:14.479



against it. And from what I can see in the169201:30:14.560 --> 01:30:18.319



online space, the top generals of the woke right seem169301:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.039



to keep having a fucking problem with me. They're the169401:30:21.079 --> 01:30:25.079



ones that keep on so judgement. So I say this169501:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.439



all the time. I'm like, please, for the love of God,169601:30:27.479 --> 01:30:30.159



if you do nothing else to judge me by my enemies.169701:30:29.920 --> 01:30:32.520



Let's look at you. That's just good. Because I was169801:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.840



always a big confused I'm like, how it's like, what169901:30:35.880 --> 01:30:38.399



does it actually represent because there's always you know, like170001:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.560



far right, extreme right, bull credit, like there's all these170101:30:40.960 --> 01:30:46.560



all these terms like whatever. Man, it's important.170201:30:46.119 --> 01:30:48.760



Not to complic It's important not to complicate it, you know.170301:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.439



Like I'm in the debate I had against Andrew Wilson.170401:30:51.439 --> 01:30:53.439



He lost on substance. I mean, I'm sure that he170501:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.920



took a victory lap, but he tried to call them reactionaries, right,170601:30:58.520 --> 01:31:01.760



They're not really reaction right reactionaries have would have a170701:31:01.760 --> 01:31:07.119



complete justification for an actual problem. This is there is sure,170801:31:07.319 --> 01:31:11.279



like I said, there there are globalists, I guess you know,170901:31:11.359 --> 01:31:13.640



there are New World Order people.171001:31:13.560 --> 01:31:16.479



But to to.171101:31:15.359 --> 01:31:19.680



To state that they're to state that two percent of171201:31:19.720 --> 01:31:23.359



the no zo point two percent of the global population171301:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.800



is responsible for all of your problems. Nick funt Does171401:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.319



was on Info Wars and Alex Jones asked him if171501:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.720



you were to take every Jew and just send them171601:31:31.720 --> 01:31:33.880



to the moon, do you think all your problems would171701:31:33.880 --> 01:31:35.640



go away? And that motherfucker said yes.171801:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.680



Okay, that guy's a fucking idiot. Man. I'm just say171901:31:38.720 --> 01:31:41.680



and I can care less people feel that.172001:31:41.960 --> 01:31:45.039



Look, but think about think about a reactionary is reacting172101:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.720



to a real issue, right, somebody like that Nick Funt does.172201:31:47.800 --> 01:31:50.479



And then you've got Candae, you know, with her views,172301:31:51.119 --> 01:31:52.880



you know, she's kind of going down that path while172401:31:52.880 --> 01:31:54.359



she isn't kind of she is going down that path.172501:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.800



She's she's lost, she's definitely.172601:31:57.840 --> 01:31:59.399



And then you got you got people like you got172701:31:59.439 --> 01:32:02.279



people like Tuck car Carlson, MGT Russell Brand. You got172801:32:02.279 --> 01:32:04.640



all these people that are flirting with it. And when172901:32:04.680 --> 01:32:07.560



they start flirting with it, right, you see them flirting173001:32:07.560 --> 01:32:10.039



with it just a little bit, right, they creep out,173101:32:10.079 --> 01:32:12.760



they creep out a little bit and they go, actually,173201:32:12.840 --> 01:32:15.000



you know, you really do have a valid argument about173301:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.039



the money that we send to Israel. And then then173401:32:17.079 --> 01:32:18.960



it gets a little bit more and a little bit more,173501:32:19.000 --> 01:32:21.039



and then they start getting a little bit more conspiratorial,173601:32:21.199 --> 01:32:23.199



and then it's like you can just see the progression173701:32:23.600 --> 01:32:28.960



and then all of a sudden boom then and it's like,173801:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.800



I'm telling you, Charlie Kirk said it really well, right,173901:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.640



anti Semitism is brain rot, right, it really is. It's174001:32:37.680 --> 01:32:41.239



like this, And then like they're like, I'm not antisemitic.174101:32:40.680 --> 01:32:41.159



Yes you are.174201:32:43.000 --> 01:32:46.359



Let's just say let's say anti zionism. Then anti Zionism174301:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.119



is brain rot because I can. I can say this174401:32:49.319 --> 01:32:52.720



a thousand times, and I'm sorry to keep repeating myself,174501:32:52.760 --> 01:32:55.680



but repetition is how you get through to dumb people.174601:32:55.720 --> 01:32:58.359



I'm not talking to you, talking to maybe somebody who's watching.174701:32:59.600 --> 01:33:04.840



Two zero point two fucking percent of the global population174801:33:05.479 --> 01:33:11.279



is not responsible for your fucking problems. It's a retarded statement.174901:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.399



I agree, that was that's like, that is the dumbest175001:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.359



thing I have ever heard a book. But they're disproportionate175101:33:18.399 --> 01:33:20.479



in the in the tech industry. Yeah, yeah, I know,175201:33:20.520 --> 01:33:23.079



all right, So what the twenty five percent of billionaires175301:33:23.079 --> 01:33:25.760



are Jewish? Okay, they're good with money, Chinese people are175401:33:25.800 --> 01:33:29.800



good with math, Black people are good at basketball. Who cares.175501:33:30.119 --> 01:33:33.880



It's a it's a stereotype. It's not a conspiracy. It's175601:33:33.880 --> 01:33:36.479



a stereotype. Yeah, And there's a reason for it. And175701:33:36.520 --> 01:33:39.399



the reason is because after some dickhead in a funny175801:33:39.479 --> 01:33:43.239



mustache tried to exterminate them when they got expelled to America,175901:33:43.319 --> 01:33:47.199



they started getting into industries at the perfect time before176001:33:47.199 --> 01:33:49.479



they blew up. They got into the tech industry, they176101:33:49.479 --> 01:33:52.039



got into the Hollywood industry, the film industry, and because176201:33:52.079 --> 01:33:54.760



of their religion and their faith and how their family oriented.176301:33:54.880 --> 01:33:58.079



They created generational wealth and handed it down to their children.176401:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.079



And because they didn't trust anybody because again somebody tried176501:34:01.119 --> 01:34:04.239



to fucking exterminate them, they kept it very tight knit176601:34:04.479 --> 01:34:07.680



and they don't allow other people in. They are an176701:34:07.720 --> 01:34:11.000



exclusionary religion now because of how many people that have176801:34:11.079 --> 01:34:12.239



tried to fucking rite.176901:34:12.680 --> 01:34:15.159



But there's there's many cultures who do that. Like I177001:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.439



can just talk about people from India because I've done177101:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.560



a lot of business with them in the entertainment industry177201:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.399



for example, you know, and there's a lot of that177301:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.399



going on, you know, as far as concerts with the177401:34:24.479 --> 01:34:26.439



artists coming in and they're doing these big arena shows177501:34:26.920 --> 01:34:30.119



and I've got to know them. And their families will177601:34:30.159 --> 01:34:31.560



do this like you see them by a gas station177701:34:31.680 --> 01:34:34.520



or a hotel. Well, that individual gets that funny, But177801:34:34.520 --> 01:34:37.439



guess what the entire family does. The entire family works it,177901:34:37.840 --> 01:34:40.239



They build up that and then they buy another as178001:34:40.239 --> 01:34:40.760



a family.178101:34:41.159 --> 01:34:43.680



We don't do that. What about Greeks. Greeks do the178201:34:43.680 --> 01:34:44.039



same time.178301:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.119



You're right, I'm just saying, you know, other cultures do178401:34:46.119 --> 01:34:50.000



do that. So let's let's move off of Let's let's178501:34:50.039 --> 01:34:52.359



move off of the woke, right, because well, defined, thank you,178601:34:52.680 --> 01:34:54.119



but what do you think of what's going on? Because178701:34:54.119 --> 01:34:57.319



you do identify as maga? What's up with all this infighting?178801:34:57.640 --> 01:34:57.880



You know?178901:34:58.000 --> 01:35:01.000



And then let's also talk about people like Laura Lumer179001:35:01.079 --> 01:35:03.720



for example. And I know you've had some os on her.179101:35:04.800 --> 01:35:06.720



You know, I'm just giving a let you go because179201:35:06.760 --> 01:35:07.279



I you know.179301:35:07.359 --> 01:35:10.239



So so I'm so back. I'm so back and forth179401:35:10.279 --> 01:35:11.880



with I hate this. This is why I hate Laura.179501:35:11.960 --> 01:35:13.399



I hate Laura because I like Laura.179601:35:13.680 --> 01:35:16.039



Right. I hate her because I like her. Every once179701:35:16.079 --> 01:35:18.720



in a while, I'll be like scrolling and I'm like.179801:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.920



Fuck right, It's like I almost hate that she gets179901:35:21.920 --> 01:35:26.039



it right, Because here's the thing again, right, I am180001:35:26.119 --> 01:35:29.359



completely objective when it comes to calling people up. I180101:35:29.399 --> 01:35:32.840



don't really if like, if if my best friend said180201:35:32.880 --> 01:35:35.640



something stupid, I would comment under it.180301:35:35.920 --> 01:35:36.079



Right.180401:35:36.239 --> 01:35:38.279



So I don't have I don't have this thing that180501:35:38.319 --> 01:35:42.239



other people have where it's like uh tribalism, where you're like,180601:35:42.479 --> 01:35:46.159



oh my, this person that follows these people that follow180701:35:46.279 --> 01:35:49.760



me said something stupid. I don't want to say anything180801:35:49.760 --> 01:35:51.279



because I don't want my friends to get mad at180901:35:51.279 --> 01:35:54.199



me for calling out their friends, right, so with Laura Lumer,181001:35:54.239 --> 01:35:55.760



I called her out for the things that she did181101:35:55.800 --> 01:35:58.119



wrong right. What she did was she said that Joe181201:35:58.159 --> 01:36:01.039



Biden was going into hospice, Jimmy Carter was dead. She181301:36:01.680 --> 01:36:06.000



doxes people that are, you know, anti Trump. She starts,181401:36:06.239 --> 01:36:08.760



she goes in. She calls it investigative journalism. Every time181501:36:08.800 --> 01:36:10.640



somebody comes against Trump, she tries to find out what181601:36:10.680 --> 01:36:12.960



their fucking family does for a living, and then she181701:36:13.479 --> 01:36:17.399



floods their inbox. It's canceled culture. I don't like it.181801:36:17.399 --> 01:36:17.760



It is.181901:36:17.840 --> 01:36:20.640



I do not like cancel culture. I don't like it182001:36:20.680 --> 01:36:24.119



when anyone fucking does it. I was canceled by the182101:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.520



woke left. I've been canceled by the woke right. It182201:36:26.600 --> 01:36:28.600



is not something you guys want to go through.182301:36:28.800 --> 01:36:29.279



I have had.182401:36:30.119 --> 01:36:32.159



I have a stack of police reports from all the182501:36:32.199 --> 01:36:34.239



credible death threats I've gotten. People have showed up to182601:36:34.239 --> 01:36:36.319



my house. I've been had the cops called to me twice.182701:36:36.359 --> 01:36:37.920



They've tried to get me kicked out of this apartment.182801:36:37.920 --> 01:36:41.119



They've called the They've done some crazy shit to me.182901:36:41.119 --> 01:36:42.960



They put me on the next door app as a pedophile.183001:36:43.399 --> 01:36:47.279



When you put somebody's information on the Internet and you183101:36:47.520 --> 01:36:54.279



put it out there with with a negative inflection. Right,183201:36:54.720 --> 01:36:56.359



bad person, here's their name.183301:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.920



Well, that's what you're trying to intentionally cause harm, not183401:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.039



just to them, their entire family relationships.183501:37:02.119 --> 01:37:04.279



And I don't give a ship what you think about183601:37:04.319 --> 01:37:07.640



Laura Luman. She fucking does that and she needs to stop.183701:37:07.840 --> 01:37:08.199



She does.183801:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.760



However, like I said, this is why I hate my183901:37:11.920 --> 01:37:15.520



light right because she does good stuff. She puts out184001:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.920



good information sometimes well she gets some things right, And.184101:37:19.560 --> 01:37:22.039



I'm going to equate that to like Alex Jones, you're184201:37:22.039 --> 01:37:24.960



throwing off ship the wall. Something's gonna stick exactly. Listen.184301:37:25.239 --> 01:37:26.840



I just just did that.184401:37:27.119 --> 01:37:28.640



I just did this with Sean.184501:37:29.880 --> 01:37:32.520



On my podcast with Seawn. I was when in that184601:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.199



debate with Owen Schroyer, He's like, how did Alice Jones184701:37:35.199 --> 01:37:37.680



predict nine to eleven? And I'm like, I don't fucking know.184801:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.199



And he is like, he's like it's a script.184901:37:40.199 --> 01:37:42.199



I'm like, yeah, or he said terrorists are gonna do185001:37:42.279 --> 01:37:45.159



terrorist shit because you know, the World Trade Centers were attacked.185101:37:45.199 --> 01:37:46.439



I thought it was a plane, by the way, but185201:37:46.520 --> 01:37:47.199



it was a bomb.185301:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.880



He's like they were attacked in ninety three, yes, and185401:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.319



Alex and then oh, some of the law. And everybody185501:37:53.359 --> 01:37:56.319



knew who he was. They knew that they wanted to attack.185601:37:56.800 --> 01:37:59.399



So Alex Jones said, they're going to attack the World185701:37:59.439 --> 01:38:01.880



Trade Centers and Osama Bilad's going to do it. But185801:38:01.960 --> 01:38:08.119



then here's what he did to frame the narrative. He185901:38:08.319 --> 01:38:09.600



said the CIA did it.186001:38:11.359 --> 01:38:12.760



Yeah, but no, you.186101:38:12.720 --> 01:38:16.199



See, so he didn't necessarily technically get that whole thing right,186201:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.319



but they believe that because he got a portion of186301:38:20.399 --> 01:38:24.359



it provably right, which is they flew planes into the186401:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.279



World Trade Centers. True, but you know, then they believe186501:38:27.319 --> 01:38:30.000



the whole thing, though they believe it blindly because if186601:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.720



you get if you get most of something right, but186701:38:32.760 --> 01:38:35.800



then you add in a caveat and you can't prove186801:38:35.880 --> 01:38:39.119



that second part right, people believe the whole thing. So186901:38:39.239 --> 01:38:45.239



what he does is actually dangerous because he creates these paranoid,187001:38:46.119 --> 01:38:51.279



you know, delusional people who think that there's some person187101:38:51.359 --> 01:38:53.319



in a black hat that's gonna like shoot him in187201:38:53.319 --> 01:38:54.560



the head when they walk out of their house.187301:38:54.680 --> 01:38:56.640



How much, but how much, how much of what he187401:38:56.760 --> 01:39:00.920



gets right is due to whatever source he has where187501:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.840



he gets this information. Because like you and I had187601:39:03.880 --> 01:39:07.800



discussed earlier, and I found out later, you know, through187701:39:07.880 --> 01:39:10.399



some of my contacts. Is like, there was chatter going187801:39:10.439 --> 01:39:12.479



around and the intelligent community that this was going to happen.187901:39:12.520 --> 01:39:14.439



How do we know? He just didn't get that lead188001:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.079



or didn't get that That's exactly That's exactly what happened.188101:39:17.439 --> 01:39:20.000



Right. But like I said, my brother called my mom188201:39:20.079 --> 01:39:23.159



the night before, so there they knew, Like the government188301:39:23.239 --> 01:39:26.039



knew and the government you know. This is the other188401:39:26.079 --> 01:39:29.359



thing about these people there some people act like the188501:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.079



government is supposed to tell you when something bad is188601:39:33.119 --> 01:39:37.439



going to happen. No, that would create maccessaria, right, It's188701:39:37.439 --> 01:39:39.640



like no, like they did this with Trump. Trump was188801:39:39.720 --> 01:39:41.920



like there was supposedly a threat and attack and the188901:39:41.960 --> 01:39:43.640



media was like, why didn't you tell us? He's like,189001:39:44.000 --> 01:39:46.840



you guys would have lost your ship and he was honest.189101:39:47.239 --> 01:39:47.399



True.189201:39:48.199 --> 01:39:50.359



No other president has ever come out and said, yeah,189301:39:50.359 --> 01:39:51.960



I held that from you because I didn't want you189401:39:52.000 --> 01:39:56.840



to freak out. So again, like, yeah, Alex probably has189501:39:57.279 --> 01:39:59.399



some good context. This is exactly what Laura Lumer does.189601:39:59.479 --> 01:40:02.119



Laura Lumer does not do journalism. Laura Lumer has a189701:40:02.199 --> 01:40:05.800



group of simps that do journalism and they send it189801:40:05.840 --> 01:40:08.199



to her inbox and then she just reads it and189901:40:08.239 --> 01:40:11.319



then drops it on her platform, right, And I'm sure190001:40:11.359 --> 01:40:13.479



that she does her ruin research a little bit, But190101:40:13.560 --> 01:40:16.239



for the most part, I think what Alex Jones has190201:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.039



is he has the same thing. He has a network. Right.190301:40:19.079 --> 01:40:22.760



When you have a network, when you're a social media influencer,190401:40:23.560 --> 01:40:27.840



are you really doing journalism or are you the anchor190501:40:28.000 --> 01:40:31.600



that's reporting the story that your journalists gave to you.190601:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.199



Well that's okay, And that's been my argument against guys190701:40:35.199 --> 01:40:37.880



like you know, Chris Cuomo, people from that era. They're190801:40:37.920 --> 01:40:40.199



just talking heads. They're reading off a fucking teleprompt for them,190901:40:40.199 --> 01:40:42.079



and journalists in years, well.191001:40:42.000 --> 01:40:44.159



Look at look at what Alex Jones's show is, right,191101:40:44.199 --> 01:40:45.560



So look this is I'm gonna do.191201:40:45.720 --> 01:40:46.479



Actually, let me do this.191301:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.279



I'm gonna do Alex Jones, Alex Jones the show Info Wars.191401:40:49.479 --> 01:40:52.239



That's what he does. This is what he does. Give191501:40:52.279 --> 01:40:56.439



you the camera shot here, Yeah, I got a tweet here,191601:40:57.359 --> 01:40:58.880



this is what this tweet says.191701:40:59.319 --> 01:41:01.600



I got a tweet here, And what this tweet says?191801:41:02.279 --> 01:41:04.640



He had a tweet here. It's like that's all he's doing.191901:41:05.119 --> 01:41:09.000



He's literally he's an anchor, He's a news anchor. That's192001:41:09.199 --> 01:41:13.199



he's not a he's not a fucking like and he's192101:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.880



not a mentalist, right, he didn't like Look at I192201:41:16.920 --> 01:41:17.640



think that I have.192301:41:17.760 --> 01:41:19.680



I think he's probably good at connecting the dots, you192401:41:19.720 --> 01:41:20.079



know what I mean.192501:41:20.119 --> 01:41:22.000



I think, yeah, that's what I was about to say.192601:41:22.199 --> 01:41:24.359



I think that I'm really good at that too. I192701:41:24.359 --> 01:41:28.800



think that I have a lot of critical thinking skills.192801:41:29.239 --> 01:41:31.840



I'm able to, you know, see things that may or192901:41:31.880 --> 01:41:33.640



may or may not be happening. I mean, I basically193001:41:33.680 --> 01:41:36.680



predicted that the Zohan guy was going to win the193101:41:36.680 --> 01:41:39.199



New York City election hours before it happened. I'm like,193201:41:40.039 --> 01:41:43.199



maybe he's gonna win because I mean, honestly, I think193301:41:43.199 --> 01:41:47.359



that New York might be better off for it. I193401:41:47.399 --> 01:41:47.960



think that it's.193501:41:50.039 --> 01:41:51.800



Hold on, Look, let me explain this.193601:41:51.960 --> 01:41:57.000



Sure, there is also a very real possibility that it193701:41:57.159 --> 01:42:02.119



starts the downfall of America. But it's one or the other. Right,193801:42:02.199 --> 01:42:04.199



So there's this is either this is either going to193901:42:04.239 --> 01:42:07.279



be responsible for the next walk away movement where it194001:42:07.359 --> 01:42:11.439



creates a mass exodus from the Democrat Party because they're194101:42:11.439 --> 01:42:15.000



going to watch the biggest city in America fall leave194201:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.199



and never come back. Right, and if they and if194301:42:18.520 --> 01:42:22.640



by the twenty twenty six mid terms you have enough194401:42:22.680 --> 01:42:24.840



people who are reaching out to all their Democrat buddies194501:42:24.840 --> 01:42:26.960



and be like, we're going too far, it could create194601:42:27.000 --> 01:42:29.479



a red wave in the twenty twenty six mid terms.194701:42:29.680 --> 01:42:33.199



And then if they implement their socialist ideologies and policies194801:42:33.239 --> 01:42:37.840



in that state, new York's fucked, but the rest of194901:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.840



the country. Hopefully, this is why I said it's a195001:42:40.880 --> 01:42:45.760



high risk, high reward. Hopefully we view it as a195101:42:45.880 --> 01:42:52.800



learning moment instead of embracing it. So what what did195201:42:52.840 --> 01:42:57.479



it take for Rudy Giuliani to come in and fix195301:42:57.720 --> 01:43:01.760



New York in the first place? Right? It took the195401:43:01.760 --> 01:43:05.399



corruption crime unchecked it. New York was a shithole. Then195501:43:05.479 --> 01:43:07.359



he came in and fixed it. What did it take195601:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.319



for Reagan to come in and fucking you know, fix America?195701:43:12.079 --> 01:43:14.479



America was falling, falling apart. What did it take for195801:43:14.520 --> 01:43:17.680



Trump to come in? America was in like good time?195901:43:17.720 --> 01:43:19.880



It's really that whole, you know. Joe Rogan made the196001:43:19.920 --> 01:43:23.840



quote like or repeated the quote, but it's an old quote.196101:43:25.159 --> 01:43:28.399



Weak men create hard times, yeah, right, so week men196201:43:28.439 --> 01:43:31.800



create hard times. Right now, you are a weak man196301:43:31.960 --> 01:43:34.159



who is about to take over the biggest city in196401:43:34.359 --> 01:43:40.079



the country. So I think that hard times hopefully will196501:43:40.079 --> 01:43:45.720



create strong men, and strong men will hopefully create good times.196601:43:46.239 --> 01:43:48.560



I would I would hate. I would hate for you196701:43:48.600 --> 01:43:51.399



to be correct, I don't know. You're probably are on196801:43:51.439 --> 01:43:54.800



this and that he does get elected and this does196901:43:54.840 --> 01:43:57.159



have to turn out to be a learning moment for197001:43:57.199 --> 01:43:59.680



the rest of the country. But hopefully if that is197101:43:59.680 --> 01:44:02.000



the say situation, that the rest of country wakes up197201:44:02.039 --> 01:44:04.640



and puts a stop to this bullshit and realize we197301:44:04.680 --> 01:44:07.079



do have to preserve who we are in our culture period.197401:44:07.560 --> 01:44:11.079



We can't let this you know, slow dripping infiltration happen197501:44:11.079 --> 01:44:12.720



and allow our country be taken from us.197601:44:13.079 --> 01:44:14.800



Yeah, if it goes the other way though, we're fucked.197701:44:16.000 --> 01:44:18.000



Like you got to think about what happened about six197801:44:18.000 --> 01:44:20.760



months ago. We almost put Kamala Harris into oh I know,197901:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.439



and if that happened right, the hard times would have198001:44:26.479 --> 01:44:28.680



been every state, not just one.198101:44:29.000 --> 01:44:29.359



True.198201:44:29.439 --> 01:44:34.239



So I don't know, man, I really, I look, I198301:44:34.359 --> 01:44:38.880



love this country more than I hate the opposing party.198401:44:39.479 --> 01:44:42.159



So I would like it if he does not become198501:44:42.159 --> 01:44:44.399



the mayor, right because I do not want to see198601:44:44.479 --> 01:44:47.560



New York City fall I don't want to see that happen.198701:44:48.159 --> 01:44:49.520



So I'm not rooting for this.198801:44:49.640 --> 01:44:53.159



I'm just reading Tea Leaves right, So I don't want198901:44:53.399 --> 01:44:57.039



him to become mayor. But based off of everything I'm seeing,199001:44:57.039 --> 01:44:58.920



there's so many people that are like, they're like, oh,199101:44:58.960 --> 01:45:02.119



but what if the what if Cuomo splits the vote199201:45:02.159 --> 01:45:07.199



and the Republic. No, I's he's probably going to be199301:45:07.239 --> 01:45:08.920



the mayor. Well, that's part of our that's part of199401:45:08.920 --> 01:45:12.199



our problem America right now. It's aways politics before people. Yeah,199501:45:12.279 --> 01:45:15.039



you know, it's it's fucking bullshit. I wish, I wish199601:45:15.079 --> 01:45:18.479



I would go away. But really, well, I mean that's199701:45:18.760 --> 01:45:20.880



that's human beings man. It's a tribalistic nature.199801:45:20.880 --> 01:45:21.399



Absolutely.199901:45:22.039 --> 01:45:23.760



And you know, the two party system. I was saying200001:45:23.760 --> 01:45:25.600



this to somebody else recently. They're like, the two party200101:45:25.640 --> 01:45:28.520



system needs to be your vote. No, it doesn't. No, No,200201:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.079



the two party system works absolutely perfectly when you take200301:45:31.119 --> 01:45:35.119



corruption out of it, right, the party, the two party system,200401:45:35.159 --> 01:45:37.000



the system that we have in place is a near200501:45:37.079 --> 01:45:41.119



perfect system. It's just been abused, right. The system itself200601:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.840



is not the problem. It's the people that are abusing it. Right,200701:45:44.920 --> 01:45:48.520



So take money out of politics and and get back200801:45:48.560 --> 01:45:53.000



to UH for the people, by the people. Adding adding200901:45:53.159 --> 01:45:57.239



more parties isn't going to fix anything. Changing the whole201001:45:57.279 --> 01:46:00.439



system isn't going to fix anything. You find out where201101:46:00.479 --> 01:46:05.399



the what what is broken? Right, Well, it's broken is201201:46:06.039 --> 01:46:08.199



we have public servants that make more than the people201301:46:08.199 --> 01:46:11.880



they serve. We have public servants that are incentivized to201401:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.399



be corrupt. We have foreign lobbies in our country, we201501:46:15.439 --> 01:46:19.680



have domestic lobbies in our in our system. So I've201601:46:19.760 --> 01:46:22.359



said this to so many people. I just I just201701:46:22.399 --> 01:46:26.319



did an interview with the guy who's running John Goodman,201801:46:26.359 --> 01:46:29.239



who's running for Senate in Illinois, and I told him,201901:46:29.279 --> 01:46:30.600



I go, when you get in there, this is what202001:46:30.640 --> 01:46:31.319



I want you to do.202101:46:31.479 --> 01:46:32.560



I want you to propose this.202201:46:32.800 --> 01:46:37.079



Right, you get no secondary income in Congress, none, not202301:46:37.279 --> 01:46:39.239



one fucking dollar above your salary.202401:46:39.279 --> 01:46:40.800



I don't care what you set your salary at.202501:46:40.880 --> 01:46:42.560



Set it at five hundred thousand if you want, but202601:46:42.600 --> 01:46:45.319



you don't get a dollar over it. Right. No book deals,202701:46:45.439 --> 01:46:49.359



no speaking events, no stock trading, no nothing, no moonlighting.202801:46:49.680 --> 01:46:52.520



That's what you get, right And if you and if202901:46:52.560 --> 01:46:55.199



you do that, there is no incentive. I mean sure,203001:46:55.800 --> 01:46:57.479



you know there are some people who are going to203101:46:57.560 --> 01:47:01.239



be like, yeah, I'd like to make three hundred thousand203201:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.079



dollars a year for the rest of my life. But203301:47:04.520 --> 01:47:06.520



the majority of people that go into Congress, they go203401:47:06.600 --> 01:47:09.640



in there because of the incentives.203501:47:09.800 --> 01:47:12.039



The incentives and the connections, the power everything comes with.203601:47:12.760 --> 01:47:16.399



Yeah, exactly. So take that out of politics. And the203701:47:16.600 --> 01:47:20.000



other thing is get rid of fucking packs.203801:47:20.159 --> 01:47:24.359



Yeah, all of them, all of them.203901:47:24.640 --> 01:47:27.560



You should only be able to raise money based off204001:47:27.600 --> 01:47:32.119



of the people of this country every and raise raise204101:47:32.159 --> 01:47:35.000



the minimum amount to five thousand instead of thirty five hundred,204201:47:35.119 --> 01:47:36.079



and that's all you get.204301:47:36.199 --> 01:47:39.000



And there should not There should not be one person204401:47:39.079 --> 01:47:44.279



in Congress that is able to do any stock trading. Yeah, no,204501:47:44.319 --> 01:47:44.840



that's what I mean.204601:47:48.279 --> 01:47:50.479



And then third, the third thing is the third thing204701:47:50.520 --> 01:47:52.000



is there should be a There should be a cap.204801:47:52.199 --> 01:47:54.680



There should be a campaign cap, right, and I don't204901:47:54.720 --> 01:47:57.880



know what the number needs to be, but one candidate205001:47:57.920 --> 01:48:02.279



shouldn't be able to have can one hundred million dollars?205101:48:02.359 --> 01:48:06.119



No for tv ads. Look when your salary is about205201:48:06.119 --> 01:48:08.119



one hundred and seventy five thousand, and I forgot what205301:48:08.119 --> 01:48:09.840



the actual number is, but one hundred seventy five thousand205401:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.600



here or they were less as a congress person. You205501:48:12.680 --> 01:48:15.720



don't come out the end other end a multimillionaire. And205601:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.319



you definitely don't become a multimillionaire while you're serving in205701:48:18.359 --> 01:48:20.399



Congress with a salary of one hundred and seventy five205801:48:20.439 --> 01:48:21.000



thousand or so.205901:48:21.600 --> 01:48:22.079



Exactly.206001:48:22.520 --> 01:48:23.760



I can't explain that away.206101:48:24.319 --> 01:48:26.359



If you take Look, here's the deal. If you take206201:48:26.399 --> 01:48:31.279



away the monetary incentive to be in congress, right where206301:48:31.319 --> 01:48:34.800



you go in, you go in a bartender and you206401:48:34.840 --> 01:48:35.720



come out a millionaire.206501:48:35.760 --> 01:48:37.359



Oh right, that back of rocks.206601:48:37.720 --> 01:48:40.600



Yeah, if you take if you take that away, right,206701:48:40.600 --> 01:48:42.720



you're only going to have two kinds of people that206801:48:42.760 --> 01:48:43.920



want to go into Congress.206901:48:44.000 --> 01:48:44.159



Right.207001:48:44.359 --> 01:48:46.000



You're going to have people that really want to go207101:48:46.039 --> 01:48:48.000



in there to do the job, patriots, right, You're going207201:48:48.039 --> 01:48:50.159



to have veterans. You're going to have people that are like,207301:48:50.279 --> 01:48:52.720



I just want to go do the job because I care, right,207401:48:52.800 --> 01:48:55.600



public servants. And then you're going to have rich people207501:48:56.079 --> 01:48:58.720



who don't need to do it. No, they don't need207601:48:58.760 --> 01:49:02.600



that Trump they're going to policy, but they again, they207701:49:02.720 --> 01:49:04.439



also want to go in there and do it for207801:49:04.479 --> 01:49:07.239



the right reasons. So the second one, you could have207901:49:07.319 --> 01:49:10.479



some people who are like bad intent.208001:49:10.680 --> 01:49:12.520



Right, oh you will. You're still gonna be that one.208101:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.159



But I think it's going to be way less than208201:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.960



all of the people that come in there with with208301:49:19.079 --> 01:49:22.680



an idea of changing for the better well and then208401:49:22.720 --> 01:49:23.800



get and then get corrupt.208501:49:23.920 --> 01:49:26.159



Maybe we should go back to removing the salary and208601:49:26.199 --> 01:49:29.159



just giving them a stipend. Sure, if you want to serve,208701:49:29.279 --> 01:49:30.880



this is what it is. You want to serve your nation,208801:49:31.159 --> 01:49:33.159



and you want to influence the nation from that position,208901:49:33.239 --> 01:49:35.640



then here's your five thousand dollar year stipend or whatever209001:49:35.640 --> 01:49:35.880



it is.209101:49:36.039 --> 01:49:38.239



Now, if I had it, if I had my way,209201:49:38.359 --> 01:49:41.079



you'd make the you'd make the median income of your district.209301:49:41.079 --> 01:49:42.479



And the only way you get a raise is if209401:49:42.479 --> 01:49:42.960



your people do.209501:49:43.960 --> 01:49:44.399



There you go.209601:49:44.960 --> 01:49:48.479



So if if you raise, you raise, the rising tide209701:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.760



raises all ships. Theory, Yeah, would be would be my209801:49:51.920 --> 01:49:55.319



approach to Congress. But but look, man, Unfortunately, in order209901:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.399



for that to happen, you'd need the people who make210001:49:58.479 --> 01:50:02.520



the laws to to give themselves a fucking pay cut. Uh,210101:50:02.560 --> 01:50:03.840



And I don't see it happening.210201:50:04.279 --> 01:50:06.720



So no, I mean, come on, they vote in lifetime210301:50:06.880 --> 01:50:10.319



medical Uh, you can serve like one year or so,210401:50:10.359 --> 01:50:11.920



and all of a sudden you're locked in for a210501:50:11.920 --> 01:50:12.960



lifetime retirement.210601:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.520



Or here's here's what we might be able to do210701:50:15.720 --> 01:50:18.720



right now that that perfect system that I just described210801:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.279



of taking money out of politics, because the system itself210901:50:21.680 --> 01:50:23.039



isn't broken, the people are.211001:50:24.359 --> 01:50:26.359



Yeah, it always starts with people. Man, you can't take211101:50:26.359 --> 01:50:29.119



out greed and and we need for power.211201:50:29.560 --> 01:50:32.760



What we might be able to accomplish with good leadership,211301:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.720



like hopefully Donald Trump will start pushing this messaging and211401:50:35.760 --> 01:50:38.920



if enough people really push this, what we might be211501:50:39.000 --> 01:50:42.520



able to do is no secondary income sorry, no stock211601:50:42.560 --> 01:50:45.239



trading and term limits. If you do no stock trading211701:50:45.239 --> 01:50:48.119



and term limits, that's a huge dent out of it.211801:50:48.199 --> 01:50:49.439



Well, it is huge.211901:50:49.720 --> 01:50:53.720



And ago, yeah, I mean it's the fucking president. Why212001:50:53.800 --> 01:50:55.600



do Why does the president have term limits?212101:50:55.640 --> 01:50:55.800



Oh?212201:50:55.840 --> 01:50:59.279



So he doesn't, he doesn't get corrupted, right, fucking apply212301:50:59.359 --> 01:50:59.960



that to everybody.212401:51:00.880 --> 01:51:04.399



Come on, man, Look when you're in Congress in your212501:51:04.479 --> 01:51:07.199



thirties and here you are in your eighties, still trying212601:51:07.199 --> 01:51:10.640



to walk around, well, get I mean, I have a212701:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.439



point to do. Their peers say, look, it's time for212801:51:13.479 --> 01:51:15.920



you to retire. So I have another I have another.212901:51:16.680 --> 01:51:19.319



I have another suggestion too, And I thought of this213001:51:19.840 --> 01:51:21.760



I thought of this a while back, and I think213101:51:21.760 --> 01:51:22.800



it's a really good system.213201:51:23.119 --> 01:51:24.359



I think that you should have.213301:51:25.720 --> 01:51:29.640



Term limits or sorry, you should have a like a213401:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.000



promotional system, right, so you should literally so you should213501:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.199



be able to be like a representative for like six years, right,213601:51:37.359 --> 01:51:40.640



So a representative for six years, a House member for213701:51:40.680 --> 01:51:43.840



four years, right, so that's ten. Then you should be213801:51:43.840 --> 01:51:47.760



able to go into the Senate for two terms. So213901:51:47.800 --> 01:51:51.680



what would that be twelve? Yeah, yeah, twelve, Okay, so214001:51:51.760 --> 01:51:54.359



you got six four twelve, that's twenty two years.214101:51:54.479 --> 01:51:54.880



Okay.214201:51:55.199 --> 01:51:59.119



Then you can be vice president right from four to214301:51:59.199 --> 01:52:01.880



eight years, and you can be president for four to214401:52:01.960 --> 01:52:06.000



eight years. And so that means, right, you have twenty214501:52:06.039 --> 01:52:11.840



two in Congress, eight in vice presidency, thirty years and214601:52:12.079 --> 01:52:17.600



eight maximum in a presidency. The most amount of time214701:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.359



that you can be in politics if you win every214801:52:20.399 --> 01:52:24.000



single election is thirty eight years. That's about how long214901:52:24.039 --> 01:52:27.960



people work in a career before they retire.215001:52:28.039 --> 01:52:31.720



Anyway, I like that idea. The only thing is it215101:52:31.760 --> 01:52:36.720



does it does remove the option for the average person215201:52:36.960 --> 01:52:39.960



who never was able to get into that to be215301:52:40.000 --> 01:52:41.720



able to run for president for example.215401:52:42.119 --> 01:52:44.159



No, no, no, what I'm saying is you start like.215501:52:44.239 --> 01:52:47.640



It should literally be a like. It should work just215601:52:47.760 --> 01:52:51.439



like any other career. I understand what you're saying, where.215701:52:51.239 --> 01:52:53.319



You would literally work yourself up to the ranks. Start215801:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.239



as you start as a rent, you get enough experience,215901:52:55.520 --> 01:52:58.439



then you're eligible for X and your local politics.216001:52:58.439 --> 01:53:00.840



You can do whatever you want local politics, the politics216101:53:00.840 --> 01:53:04.399



no rules. I'm talking about Washington. In Washington, right, you216201:53:04.439 --> 01:53:05.840



can be you can start off as a rep. You216301:53:05.840 --> 01:53:07.319



can start off as a then you can move up216401:53:07.359 --> 01:53:08.760



to a House member. You can move from a House216501:53:08.760 --> 01:53:10.039



to the Senate. You can move from the Senate to216601:53:10.079 --> 01:53:12.199



the vice presidency, you can move or just straight to216701:53:12.239 --> 01:53:15.720



the presidency. But I'm saying the maximum under this system216801:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.039



the most you could ever work.216901:53:18.640 --> 01:53:21.439



So you're saying, if you want to enter politics and217001:53:21.520 --> 01:53:24.199



make that career, then your max service should be around217101:53:24.239 --> 01:53:24.960



thirty eight years.217201:53:25.039 --> 01:53:27.399



So just like every other job, you start in the217301:53:27.439 --> 01:53:30.199



mail room and then you get promoted to this and217401:53:30.239 --> 01:53:30.800



then you get.217501:53:31.279 --> 01:53:33.159



I get it, But but you're you're not advocating for217601:53:33.279 --> 01:53:36.439



like let's say me or you running for president of217701:53:36.439 --> 01:53:38.920



the United States. It's just those career politicians should have217801:53:38.920 --> 01:53:40.239



a shelf life regardless.217901:53:40.479 --> 01:53:42.800



That's what I'm saying, so with the term with the218001:53:42.880 --> 01:53:45.600



term limits, right, I think that it should be like218101:53:45.800 --> 01:53:49.159



in like almost like a promotional role, right where it's218201:53:49.239 --> 01:53:51.760



like okay, so like that makes a lot of sense.218301:53:52.159 --> 01:53:54.319



You're like, okay, if you you you've already done it,218401:53:54.399 --> 01:53:57.159



You've already done your your six years. You have to218501:53:57.159 --> 01:54:00.000



go to this position, right or you have to leave218601:54:00.279 --> 01:54:02.119



or you have to leave office right right, So you218701:54:02.439 --> 01:54:05.560



have to you have to either jump up to this position,218801:54:05.600 --> 01:54:07.920



which is the only one available to you, or you're gone.218901:54:08.159 --> 01:54:10.119



And that way, it's not just a term limit, it's219001:54:10.119 --> 01:54:12.640



a congressional limit where it's like it's not even just terms.219101:54:12.680 --> 01:54:13.880



It's like you're fucking done.219201:54:14.119 --> 01:54:16.720



You're done. You did this. Yeah, you did your service,219301:54:16.800 --> 01:54:20.880



Thank you, Time to move on exactly. Awesome, all right, brother,219401:54:21.840 --> 01:54:24.640



we covered a lot of grown Yeah that was great. Man.219501:54:24.720 --> 01:54:27.800



Like I said, I I've been trying to get on219601:54:27.880 --> 01:54:30.840



these Uh I've been dealing with personal stuff and I219701:54:30.920 --> 01:54:32.560



just got my show back this week, so I'm trying219801:54:32.600 --> 01:54:33.319



to do these interviews.219901:54:33.319 --> 01:54:35.439



So I appreciate you bringing me on. Hey, no no worries.220001:54:35.720 --> 01:54:37.199



There's gonna be a lot a lot coming from this.220101:54:37.279 --> 01:54:39.800



But anyway, I bottom line thanks for coming on, Man,220201:54:39.840 --> 01:54:41.840



appreciate I think you and I are going to keep talking.220301:54:42.079 --> 01:54:44.600



I feel like we agree in a lot, but sure,220401:54:45.239 --> 01:54:47.520



definitely Man, And again, thank.220501:54:47.359 --> 01:54:51.760



You feel.220601:54:52.960 --> 01:55:05.960



Vildemption. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo220701:55:06.920 --> 01:55:11.119



doo doo doo doo doo do