Aug. 15, 2025

The Misfit Patriot - Political Commentator | Content Creator | Social Media Personality

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I sit down with "The Misfit Patriot" to get to know him and give him a chance to really explain his thoughts and opinions. He has become one of the most controversial presences on social media for standing his ground and calling out people such as Dave Smith and Laura Loomer for thier hypocrisy. The Misfit Patriot is a self proclaimed member of MAGA, and has been labeled pro-Israel and anti-Islamist, both of which have garnered attacks from both the Left and the Right.

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I want to welcome the misfit patriot, mister misfit, So

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I appreciate you actually taking the time to be here too.

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I know you've been around lately. You've been on Peers Morgan,

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You've been on a bunch of other podcast doing debates, etc.

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As we kind of discussed offline, I really wanted you

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here because I wanted to give you the opportunity to

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explain yourself a bit more, because what I've seen is

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a bit I'll just say this, I've seen other people's

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fan base where fanboys basically get behind the other person

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or whoever and really bolster them up to try to

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make you look bad. And in my opinion, I don't

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think everything you say is a bad opinion. I don't,

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And I just don't think you're given enough air to

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breathe right, or enough room to actually say what you

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got to say. So I just wanted to get to

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know you and just get to know like where you're

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actually coming from. And I will bring up some of

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the things that were I guess controversial, especially if you're

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paying attention to social media, which is another world in

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and of itself, right, So yeah, well that I just

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want to start with this. I am going to get

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into the Iran Israel thing because that was pretty recent.

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You have a lot to say about that, but I

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want to start with what's going on with your not

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I wouldn't say best with your squabbles lately, for example,

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like Dave Smith. He said some stuff about Laura Lumer,

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which I can understand, But can you explain a bit

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what's going on between you and Dave? I mean, Dave

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kind of tries to dismiss you, but you seem to

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not not let him get away with everything that he says.

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Can you elaborate on that for me? Sure?

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Dave's just like everybody else that I call out when

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I when I see hypocrisy online, I usually call it out.

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I don't care if it's on my side. I mean, look,

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I spent years calling out the hypocrisy of the left

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because it's it's easy. It's it's literally like fish in

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a barrel. And I've noticed recently, pretty pretty recently, that

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there is this wing of the right that's adopting this

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you know, double standard what about ism, and and I

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would I would classify it as as woke ideology, like

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so this, there's this, there's this debate about you know,

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James Lindsay, myself and some others adopted this whole woke

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right a framing tactic, and a lot of people are like,

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woke means left. No woke actually just means oppressor oppressed

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ideology where it's basically like, there's a there's a they

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out there that's responsible for all of your problems and

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you bitch about it and you don't have no personal accountability.

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The right has never adopted this, but until recently, so

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I've been calling out the quote woke right, and I

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think that I don't know if Dave is necessarily woke right.

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He's definitely fucking woke because he's got this this ideology

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where where there's this, uh, there's this boogeyman bad guy, Uh,

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the American government is government, this, that and the other,

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and you know, under the guise of morality and libertarianism,

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he thinks that he's got this moral superiority over others.

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So that's just you know, a little intro into why

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I'm calling anybody out. But as far as Dave Smith specifically,

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what I've noticed about Dave Smith is he's a he's

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he's got this debate me bro like you know stick now.

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Andrew Wilson has the same thing. But Andrew Wilson I

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would say, I disagree with.

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Him a lot.

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But Andrew Wilson, I would say, actually should be in

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that space, right. Andrew Wilson smart, articulate, well read. He

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goes after the substance, whereas Dave uses gaslighting, narcissism, and

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abuse techniques to to bully berate his audience, and he

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usually does it under a platform where he's got the

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home field advantage, like on Pierce Morgan, or on Joe

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Rogan or on his own channel. I've really not seen

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a lot of substance from from him and others where

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they're actually they're actually arguing in good faith. Like so

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as far as like why why this bothers me so much,

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it's because I'm seeing I'm seeing it accepted in my

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own party. I'm seeing a lot of people that are

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sort of just jumping on. There is this single issue

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voter block that's now just anti Israel, right, they don't

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give a shit who you are. I see Johnny ut D,

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a far radical leftist from the UK, reposting Nick Fuentees

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because the only thing they have in common is they

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both hate Jews, and I don't. And I also see there.

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This is why I think this is one of the

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biggest issues of our time right now. I see a

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September tenth mentality in this country where we are not

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looking at the threat of radical Islam and how it

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is a real danger to I would say any Western

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civilization or any you know what. I don't know why

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we always do that peaceful civilization. Everywhere radical Islam has

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been implemented, it has made the place that it is

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implemented in worse. And we just had a primary in

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New York City, the biggest city in America, and they

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voted in a radical Islam as supporter and socialists. So

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why am I calling these people out? It's pretty much

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me pulling the fire alarm, except I'm not Jamal Bowman.

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I actually think there is a fire right well.

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My thing I think with Dave is and I've talked

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about this person myself, My brother and I have gone

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down this road. I actually respective for the fact that

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he is intelligent, but I think that he's gotten to

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a point where he's gotten so big and he's used

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to being patted on the back that everything he says

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is gold and I don't believe that he's even made

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the argument that, well, I make better arguments because I

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read books. Great, everyone reads books. But the problem with

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his books is he only accepts the ones that he

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says himself quoted, I just read better books. But both

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these books have the same facts. He just prefers the

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ones that have the inflection of the author or the

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opinions that support his view. So regardless, he does come

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into things with a lot of bias, he just won't

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admit it. And I don't believe he's always correct. So,

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you know, I do understand why you call him out.

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I just I don't know. I think he should be

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on a platform where he's more, like you said, challenge,

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not necessarily surrounded by his peers and constantly being you know,

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like I said before, pat on the back or even

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they gang up on the other person, you know who

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they're dating, which is a bit ridiculous.

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Yeah, and this whole debate thing, it's like, I'm not

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a debater, by the way, right, these people keep asking

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me to debate them. I don't go out and say

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I would like to debate x y z no Owen

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Shore said, I'll I want to debate you, Andrew Wilson said,

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I want to debate you a couple other people I've

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probably been in, I don't know, half a dozen debates.

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Maybe I I will accept any debate because I think

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that the best way to you know, solve problems is

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through discourse, because you know, when when discourse ends, violence begins. However,

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what I've noticed is when these people, when these people

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try to talk to me, you were you were alluding

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to this earlier, right, it's they have they have this

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I would say, false sense of of confidence because they're

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they're they're in their own echo. They have they have like, look,

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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna discredit the fact that

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these people have actual fans and real people that really

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support them. But I think that it's a lot of

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fake engagement where they're getting they're getting boosted and they're

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they're literally they're seeing their notifications they're like, you did great,

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you won, You're the best and crushed him. So what

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I do is, like, like with the Owen Shoryer debate,

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I did an own short debate. I rewatched the debate.

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I will fully admit that my first debate with Andrew Wilson,

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I lost right. I have no problem saying that I

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didn't know the substance. I told him I didn't know

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the substance. We were trying to have a theological debate.

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Was clearly he's clearly more educated on theology than I am.

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So I can say that I lost right on the

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on the substance. The second debate, I think it was

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fairly even. I watched the Owen Shorer debate, and I

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rewatched it knowing that I can be wrong. I can

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lose debates. If somebody does better than me or knows

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more than me, I'll be happy to admit it. When

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I rewatched it, I did not see him make a

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single point that that actually won on substance. He just

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yelled and screamed, and he and he didn't have any argument.

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He said Katar was our greatest ally. I said, what

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evidence you have that are greatest alloy? He goes, whatevers

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you have that they're not. I asked you a question.

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So anyway, So what happens is because he has so many,

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so much more followers than me, he does the debate.

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He doesn't do anything to win the debate, but everybody goes,

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you won the debate. But he but he actually didn't.

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But he's going around. It's like that meme where you

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see the cartoon guy and he's popping a bottle of

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champagne and biting, biting his medal and he's like yeah,

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and then it zooms out and he's in like fifteenth

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place and he's just like celebrating, and and I think

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that that's what's going on with Dave Smith. I think

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that he's literally like people are stroking his ego. And again,

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he might have real fans, but I think that a

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lot of it is I think that a lot of

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it's manufactured because there are people out there with an

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agenda that want to frame a narrative, and they will

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they will jump in and they will throw a bunch

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of bots under one person's post. And you know it

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also to the point that we made earlier, when he's

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going on these platforms, like Pierce Morgan, who's Pierce Morgan

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had Dave Smith on one side, he had the person

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that Dave Smith was supposed to be debating on the

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other side, and he's supposed to be in the middle

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as a moderator, right, Pierce Morgan joined in on one

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side of the argument for an hour and they tag

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teamed two different women. Where it was when you have

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a debate that's one hour long and two people are

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talking over one person, that person is going to get

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Maybe I would say a maximum, if it's a fair debate,

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thirty three percent of the airtime. But she didn't even

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get that. She probably got ten percent because they just

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wouldn't stop filibustering, interrupting. And then Dave literally in these debates.

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I don't want to make this whole podcast about Dave,

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but you asked Dave in these debates, who goes before

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the fucking debates?

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Even Olveray's like, I won well on the debate, And

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I did ask because I want to know, you know,

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I want to know where you're coming from. I know where

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I come from. I know where a lot of people

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come from. In my opinion, I think, okay, the deal

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with people like Dave, for example, comedians, they're trained to

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be very quick, witty, snappy, their comebacks right. They think quick,

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they react quick, they talk fast. Dave was was on

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National I think it was on Fox or whatever. I forgot.

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I forgot which news network it was. He would come

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on as a consultant or someone who would you know,

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like a talking head basically wants to.

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Make a contributor or something.

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Yeah, basically, but you know, we can't lie to ourselves.

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And I'm going to say this flat out, Dave would

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not be where he was if he wasn't Joe Rogan's friend, period, exactly.

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In my opinion, I'm getting very tired of these comedians

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thinking that just because they're witty on stage that they

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suddenly are authorities when it comes to politics and geopolitics.

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A guy doesn't know shit about geopolitics.

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No, and and Douglas Murray did a really good job

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of pointing this out to him, and you can tell

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it left a mark because Dave is still talking about

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I can't believe this appeal to authority. And then he

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makes the same appeal to authority to other people. Just

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came out and called out Rob Schneider and he goes,

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you're a comedian, you don't know what you're talking about.

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It.

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It's like, bro, right, dude, what's up Dave Murray?

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What's up?

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Dave Murray? Like what are you doing? You're literally so anyway,

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and again like so Dave is a good Dave is

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a good general, Like he's a good figurehead, to to

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sort of focus on the overarching broad issue of this

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false sense of confidence and how we're bolstering the dumbest

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voices who are not making actual intellectual arguments, but instead

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are are are dominating the clout market where they are,

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they are getting boosted, they are getting fed positive affirmations

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for nonsense. Meanwhile, what they do is they try to

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beat down and silence anybody that's actually making an articulate,

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well rounded argument, like I can't Elica. I think her

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name is the girl that was on the debate with

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Dave Right, she's Look, you had two lawyers, right, you

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had an international lawyer, you had a lawyer, you had

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an Iranian who actually knows about the Middle East, because.

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Yeah, she's she's she's.

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Well overqualified for this conversation, right. And you have Piers

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Morgan who brings on you bring on Natasha Housdorff, right,

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who's again an international lawyer, way overqualified for this conversation.

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And all they do is scream and shout he down,

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don't let her talk gaslight abuse, abuse abuse, And then

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they just go, look at what we did, right, And

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it's like, you shouldn't be proud of this, Piers and

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also one final thing that I was going to make

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a video on this. I got busy with work and everything.

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But before that debate that Dave was just on on Piers,

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they had on this guy who's supposedly a professor at

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Tehran University, which is essentially meaning he's he's an Iran spokesperson,

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the iurgy, he's an IERGYC spokesperson. Let's just call it

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what it is. He's a terrorist, right, He's an actual terrorist, right,

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there's no doubt about it. Pierce Morgan asks him. He goes,

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do you are you proud of what Hamas did on

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October seventh?

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And he goes, yeah, right, he goes yeah. I mean

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he goes.

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Because and then Pierce is like, they killed they killed

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Holocaust survivors. He's like, well, just because you survived the

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Holocaust doesn't mean you're allowed to settle in someone else's land.

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And he was It was like blatantly obvious that this

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guy is a terrorist, right, right, And then Pierce goes

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to Dave. Pierce goes, I think he made some good points.

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I obviously don't agree with the bad things he said,

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but I think he made some good points. What do

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you think? And Dave's like, yeah, I think he made

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some good points on I obviously don't agree with the

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bad things he said. Go look, dog, here's the deal.

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If you ever have a fucking terrorist on your platform,

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the one thing you do not do is say they

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had good points, because this is the same argument as

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Hitler had some good ideas. But I don't agree with

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the genocide. Right. It's like, bro, no, right, if you

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cannot universally condemn somebody who is out there in four

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k say yes, I am proud of the rape, murder, slaughtering,

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and kidnapping of twelve hundred plus people, Right, You've lost

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the thread. And it's not about like people are like, oh,

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you're taking them out of context. He only agreed with it. No, No,

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I didn't take him out of context at all. He

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agreed with a terrorist on some parts of the terrorists argument.

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I think, I think exact the problem. I think the

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problem with people like Dave is they they don't want

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to lose their base or the base of the sympathizers

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on the opposite side of the argument. They're trying to

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play the middle as much as they can so that

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they're always relevant and they're always you know, at the

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top of social media pulse or whatever it is that

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they get their Yeah, yeah, whatever works for them. But

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here's Morgan. We'll get off this in a minute. But

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the reality is, if you're going to be a moderator,

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you need to be a moderator. You're not supposed to

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jump in and gang up. And that's why I saw

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what that other debate when you're talking about orn I

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forgot the last name. Oh and Shroyer. Yeah, it was.

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It was a three on one. They had too much.

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When we started that debate, there was two other people

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in the little boxes and I go, am, I debating

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two people, right, and then the guy goes, oh, no,

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I'm a second moderator. I'm like you moderators.

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Yeah, I saw that one because you know, I did

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watch for your debate because I wanted to see I

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see the chatter, and I was like, Okay, let me

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see where he's coming from, let me see what happened

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outside perspective. Yeah, there was a couple We're personally not

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an attack, but I don't know if you were fully

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prepared on some of them. Yeah, fair enough, it happens, right,

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But there's others where I'm like the one with Oron.

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It was like, Okay, you're trying to make some good

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points and this guy, I actually never heard of him.

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I'm not an info war guy, but whatever, and everything

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that he was saying was nothing but based on conspiracy theories.

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He didn't have any real basis for his arguments. Yeah,

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and then he tried to tell you, or are you

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trying to make this argument about Jews choose being the

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problem while he is trying to explain the rule of

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the problem by also stating that the Jews are the

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rule of the problem, Like what the fuck you?

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I mean, well, this is the problem, this is the issue. Like, look,

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I have I wouldn't say I have respect for somebody

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likes Stu Peters, but I at least I at least

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can I can say that with Stu Peters and somebody

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likes Stu Peters. Right, he just says I hate Jews, right,

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And I'm like, damn, why can't they all do that? Right?

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He wears it, honestly, the argument that these people are

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not anti Semitic, they're anti Zionists when there's eighty to

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ninety five percent of jewsers Zionists. Right, It's just I'm

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just tired of the argument. Right, So you got people

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like Owen Schroyer who gaslight and they go, this is bullshit.

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Just because you call out Israel doesn't mean you Jews.

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And then then you criticize nobody else but Jews and I.

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And that's why I wanted to pin him down on Islam, right,

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because if you have somebody this is what I do respect.

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I respect somebody who goes fuck them both, right, Like

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I really do respect those people. I respect the people

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that go fuck Jews, fuck Muslims, and I don't agree

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with them because I don't see a problem with Jews, right,

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but I respect it.

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It's like, well, you're making a hard stance, right, You're

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going you're going fuck them both, right. Yeah.

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But when I tried to pin Owen Schroyer down on Islam,

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he goes, nos are quitar is one of our best allies.

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We have a military base there.

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I'm like, we got a military base in fucking Cuba, right,

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Like we got a military Like have you heard of

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Bogram You remember those thirteen dead service members? They were

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at a military base. So it's it's a non argument,

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like like Dave says, and then they don't they just

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they don't see that what they're doing, right, see with

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Hitler and and uh shit, I'm drawing a blank right now.

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Early the Islamic leader back in nineteen forty something that

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sat down with him, the muzzle. They created this coalition

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because they had a shared enemy, right, the Jewish people. Right,

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Islam is always going to hate the Jewish people. Hit

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their hated the Jewish people, and they came together. This

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is what I'm seeing with horseshoe theory, with the right

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and the left who are coming together and coalescing around Jews,

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where I'm like, look, I'm not Jewish, I'm not Israeli.

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I don't give a talk about Israel as far as

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like the government, I don't care. I don't care who

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the president is. I don't know how their system works.

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I don't know anything about Israeli politics.

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Right. I saw on October.

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Seventh, nine to eleven, Part two, right in a different country,

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And I remember nine eleven. I'm old enough to remember

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nine eleven, and I remember how other nations were standing

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with America and they were showing their support, and I go, yeah,

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let's return the fucking favor. Let's show our support with

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like they did this to us twenty four years ago.

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So yeah, of course, well back then it was three

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years ago.

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I'm forty all right, I'm gonna be forty seven. Yeah.

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So I was fifteen that it happened.

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I remember I was driving to I was a union

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painter for a little bit. I was driving down to

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the Bay Area and then it was on the radio

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and everybody was just like, what the fuck just happened.

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Me and my dad were driving. It came with with

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his neighbor. It came on the radio. We were out

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running an errand and we ran rushed back to the

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house and sat there, all three of us, and watched

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the TV crying, you know. And I was crying because

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my brother at the time, it was still my brother,

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but at the time, my brother was over in the

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Middle East, overseas in the Marines. Oh, and I was like,

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my brother's going to die. I was like, he's going

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to die. He's going like he's because as a fifteen

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year old, you just know that war means people die.

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Anyway, he didn't, but it was.

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It's a moment that if you lived it, you don't forget.

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And I think that the reason why there's this indifference

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to Islam is because it has been now twenty something

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years and we have a brand new generation that just

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does not understand what that what that felt like?

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The problem? Okay, not disagreeing with you whatsoever. I think

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what people don't understand is they don't they don't do

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a deep dive on the history, and they want to

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cherry pick the parts of history that makes all of

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this look good. Right. Yeah, Islam going back to when

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their prophet Muhammad was still alive is when in around

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sixteen twelve, between sixteen twelve and six I'm not sixteen,

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I'm sorry, six sixteen twelve to six twenty two is

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when they decided that, hey, we're gonna expand and we're

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going to bring the world under Sharia law or under

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the Muslim way, right, And since that it has not stopped.

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They never forgot they're objective. It's it's still there.

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I mad, I made a post. I made a post

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last night. I think it was somebody asked me, and

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they asked me in good faith. They weren't they weren't trolling,

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which is normally you get this question when somebody's trolling.

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They go, uh, wouldn't wouldn't killing more wouldn't killing people

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in the Middle East make more terrorists, not less?

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And I was like, no, absolutely not. And here's why.

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If you actually know history, right, there's been over sixty

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six thousand Islamic terrorist attacks in the past fifty years.

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They were they kill each other when there's no interventionism. Uh,

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there's been eighteen hundred attacks or eighteen hundred deaths just

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last year in twenty twenty four. It's like the the

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idea that people that have spent like centuries murdering other

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people are murdering us because every once in a while,

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when they get too crazy, we intervene and try to

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stop them is retarded. It's it doesn't make any sense

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right these people, it's Islam is a convert or killed

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death cult because the the Quran states as doctrine that

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you need to kill infidels, and you need to and

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it's an expansionist religion. It's a it's a political ideology

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disguised as a religion, first of all. But it's it's

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ike it's ikea instructions on how to take over the world, right,

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that's what it is, right, and and that's the thing.

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It's the exact opposite of Judaism right, where it's like Judaism, Well,

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let's not even go with Judaism.

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Let's go with Israel.

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Right, let's just go with the modern state of Israel,

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because people don't like when you get to theology Israel

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is an isolationist country. They don't want to expand. They

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never have they they they they they're the same. They're

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at the same numbers they were at the end of

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the Holocaust. As far as population, they don't grow. They

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just try to survive. They stay in their little dot

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in the Middle East. They have no real plans for,

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you know, taking over anywhere else. And if you look

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at Islam, if you look at a map of the

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Muslim nations in seventeen seventy eight, when the Ottoman Empire,

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like you know, the Barbaries started their whole you know,

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modern expansionist movement, it looks like cancer spreading. They're everywhere

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now right, They're in Africa, the Middle East, Europe. It's like, bro,

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how are people missing this?

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Well, you're right, you're right. So. And also, Palestine was

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never an actual country nation. It was really referred to

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as a region that was a collection of tribes and

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you know, sub nations I guess you would call them

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back then. Yeah, but that's what it was, that's what

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was referred to.

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That's what it still is. It's a region in Israel.

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It is a region now. The history between like you

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were talking about Muslims and the Jews or just the

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really is that's that's that's an old, old, old war.

456
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.799
Old titles back to Charigan Ishmael. Yeah, Isaac and Ishmael.

457
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.400
You can start there. It's two brothers had a fight,

458
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.079
and three thousand years later we're all paying.

459
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.839
It just never stopped. It just never stopped. And this

460
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.559
whole two state solution that keeps getting rejected was I

461
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.680
mean the act like this was a new concept and

462
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.559
people are upset about it first mentioned, I believe, like

463
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.759
officially like nineteen seventeen, nineteen eighteen, by the way, way

464
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.720
before nineteen forty eight, when when the Israeli state was formed, right,

465
00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.759
and then it was it was introduced again nineteen thirty seven,

466
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.079
and then from there it just it just continued, It

467
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:39.839
just continued, I believe in the late nineties and two thousands,

468
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:44.039
it was it was continually pushed and introduced, but constantly

469
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:47.319
rejected because they don't want their peace of land, Like

470
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.440
they say they want the area now it's well, I

471
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.240
mean riverge disease what they say, right, they've they've they've

472
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:57.279
rejected the two state solutions. They've rejected they've started every

473
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.559
war since the since the Arab is where they were

474
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.960
nineteen forty eight, there's been you know six Like the

475
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.759
talking point is Nakba, right, Knachba was a reaction to

476
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.480
the initiation of the Arab Israeli war, which the with

477
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.559
the Arabs started. And you want a two state solution,

478
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.480
I have one. There are already two states, Jordan and Israel.

479
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.880
Put fucking put one.

480
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.440
Put these people in Jordan because I I did a

481
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.880
debate where the opposition leader to the King of Jordan

482
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.839
told me straight up, he goes, we'll take them, he goes, absolutely.

483
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.119
You know, there's dating.

484
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.000
The original proposal was when when when that split happened,

485
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.960
was Palestine was literally part of Jordan. Were supposed to

486
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.240
be part of Jordan. But a lot of people argue, well,

487
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.680
they're not the same Palestinians, they don't have the same culture,

488
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.680
same whatever. Great, but there's diverse cultures in Israel. We

489
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:49.720
have diverse cultures here.

490
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.279
That's that's the Middle East in a nutshell, it's literally

491
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.720
just a bunch of different u iterations of Muslim, you know,

492
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:58.759
like look at Iran, I ran, like I ran. It's

493
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:02.039
not there's I hate when people do this and it's

494
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.799
it's ignorance. Dave Smith does it, a lot of people

495
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.759
do it own Schroy does it where they try to

496
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.880
compare two different regions in the Middle East, like it's

497
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.319
all the same. The Iranian people, there's so many. I

498
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:19.160
would say the majority probably are against the Irgc and

499
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.880
the and the the Iarola. So you don't have the

500
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.640
same dichotomy as you do in Gaza, where Hamas has

501
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.119
an overwhelming support of the Palestinian people.

502
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.799
They they took part in October seventh. The people did

503
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.240
they do? They do to a degree, So.

504
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.839
There is there is definitely, there's definitely opposition, and they're

505
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.240
they're silenced and killed if they if they speak out.

506
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.400
But I'm saying the percentages are way different.

507
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.720
No, Okay, I'll agree with you there. What I was

508
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.279
gonna say is is when Hamas came into power, though

509
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.480
they were originally voted in as the governing body to

510
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.359
represent the palest Mp people, correct, they were not originally

511
00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.640
just a terrorist organization. They were't supposed to be anyway,

512
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.680
they turned into that, and now they're using their own

513
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.559
people that they rule as shields and as sympathy cards

514
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.759
that they can pull against the world to say, Hey,

515
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.920
there's nothing what are they doing. Our hospitals could be

516
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.000
geting bombed, We're being targeted, Like why why are you

517
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.359
killing our people? Yeah, and there's that's really putting their

518
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:17.079
people in danger.

519
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.720
Look, there's a valid criticism for Israel's part in funding Hamas.

520
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.559
There's valid criticism of course, or there's valid criticism for

521
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.920
the CIA and George Bush going through regime changes in

522
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.960
the Middle East and causing these people to do these things. Right,

523
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.039
But just like I told Owen Schroyer, I don't fucking care,

524
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.680
right because once you look look like these people, they

525
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.000
constantly try to find the root cause, which doesn't change

526
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.680
the fact that as in this moment, we have a

527
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.400
terrorist organization doing terrorist Do you think figuring out why

528
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.000
it happened and telling them is going to be They're

529
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.079
going to be like, ah shit, I'm sorry, man, I

530
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.160
didn't realize we didn't have to cut people's heads off. No,

531
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.519
they're doing these actions now in the current moment, right,

532
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.400
and and yeah, like cool, find out who killed JFK.

533
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.039
I don't give a shit. He's dead, all right, Like

534
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.079
what are you doing now? We don't even know who

535
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.640
tried to kill Trump, and you guys are like focusing

536
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.200
on who tried to kill JFK. So what I'm saying

537
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.599
is these these people that that try to hyper fixate

538
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.839
on the root cause they're ignoring the fact that right

539
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.759
now currently Hamas engaged in October seventh, right, and the

540
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.200
reason they did it is because they're a terrorist organization?

541
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.039
Now why are they a terrorist organization? Like That's that's

542
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.920
what what these people focus on. I just personally don't care, right,

543
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.440
I don't care if Kamene wasn't hugged enough by his mother,

544
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.799
he's a fucking terrorist, kill him, right. So that's that's

545
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:54.279
my that's my mindset of of like the the the

546
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:59.599
people that are blaming the the Israelis, it's like, cool,

547
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.200
who cares?

548
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.680
But I ran became the largest state sponsor terrorism in

549
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.559
nineteen eighty four, they were okay, So the current regime

550
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.000
was put into power in seventy nine, right eighty four,

551
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.039
not too long after all of a sudden, they're one

552
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.519
of the largest state sponsor terrorism. Here we're on twenty

553
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.160
twenty five, and they still are you know, they're using

554
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.240
their proxies to do their bidding so that they can

555
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:20.960
have a buffer.

556
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.799
Exactly, Like, at what point how long of a pattern

557
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.640
of behavior do you get to go through before you

558
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.319
actually blame the people that are doing the shit that

559
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:31.000
they're doing.

560
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.480
Right, It's like, you guys, not you guys.

561
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.720
Some people, some people are just trying to figure to

562
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:45.319
justify terrorism because they don't like a certain people group,

563
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.920
which is the Jews. Right, So they're trying to justify

564
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.880
the terrorism of the people that are committing terrorism. And

565
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.359
then they're trying to blame the people that are engaging

566
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.119
in anti terrorism, right, counter offensives. And again I have

567
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.799
no problem if you create size Israel's actions. Right, However,

568
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.000
hold up a fucking mirror, because you got people like

569
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.519
Pierce Morgan who're like this, this is a disproportionate response.

570
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:11.279
Blah blah blah.

571
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.799
You heard of Operation Gomora, fuck face? Right?

572
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:18.480
Like Operation Gomora the Royal the Royal Air Force, in

573
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.480
conjunction with the Allies in the United States, dropped nine

574
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:26.119
thousand tons of bombs on Hamburg Germany and they killed

575
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:31.720
forty thousand civilians pavilions. They didn't care. Another forty thousand

576
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.759
were injured. Another two hundred and fifty thousand were displaced.

577
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.240
Nobody called it a fucking genocide because the Nazis needed

578
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:45.720
to die, right like. So, I don't understand how we've

579
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:51.759
got this revisionist history of current history of right now

580
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.799
what's happening, whereas you have actual history that they that

581
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:56.599
they just ignore.

582
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.799
As Rook let me interject, I think I think the

583
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.920
issue with zech is that the wolf ride, as you

584
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.480
call them, I think they're just they're just holding fast

585
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.799
to kind of to America. First they say they are,

586
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.400
but then they're not, but then they are. I think

587
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.079
they I think they pick and choose for whatever suits

588
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.279
suits them, depending on who they're talking to. But what

589
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.119
I see is nobody wants to go to war on

590
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.119
the behest or behalf of another country right now, especially Israel,

591
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.119
and a lot of people do not like the fact

592
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.319
that the United States seems to be bleeding money right

593
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.680
by funding all these other nations. It's a fair, it's

594
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.160
a fair, and I understand that when it comes to Israel.

595
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.960
For looking at the USA numbers there was. There was

596
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.039
sign into law basically that we, at a minimum minimum

597
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.880
every year give them three point two billion dollars. That's

598
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.519
not the full amount we give them every year, but

599
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.680
that's the minimum. They're supposed to use that to buy

600
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.039
weapons and military aid whatever from US. But at the

601
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.880
same time, we give above and beyond that three point

602
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.160
two billion every single year. So I see where people

603
00:32:59.200 --> 00:32:59.880
are upset with that.

604
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.759
No, yeah, no, they do offset. They do offset that, right,

605
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.839
But I don't like it. Look, look, here's the deal.

606
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.440
I'm going to agree with with people on this one,

607
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:15.079
right that disagree with me on Israel, right, like in general, right,

608
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.880
I don't see why we do that. It's basically money laundry.

609
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.640
It's like, you know, we give them the money that

610
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.559
we say, give it back to us, and then you know,

611
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.640
we it's a weird it's a weird system of foreigner

612
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.480
and we do it with other countries too. But yeah,

613
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.480
it's not just Israel, right, we do this with with

614
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:31.240
his amic stakes.

615
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.759
I mean, we forgured the over two hundred I think

616
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.920
it's two hundred and forty countries and territories every single year.

617
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.720
Exactly, And I don't like it. I don't like it

618
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.599
at all. I don't think that we should have it,

619
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.000
just like I don't like APEC.

620
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:44.640
Right.

621
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.920
My issue is, why the fuck are you bitching about

622
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:50.759
one and not the others?

623
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:51.000
Right?

624
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.799
And or just don't pitch about Look, here's the deal.

625
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.599
If like I don't know, if you follow Stephen Crowder,

626
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.480
I like Stephen Crowder's argument, right. Stephen Crowder usually comes

627
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.240
in and he goes, he goes a pack, gave money

628
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.359
to Hakeem Jefferies, fuck a pack. But it's like, if

629
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.480
you're mad about APAC, you should be mad about all

630
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:10.559
the packs. And you guys, aren't your only focus on

631
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.719
the one that's about the Jews. And I think that

632
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.719
that I don't think that that's necessarily And this is

633
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.400
what the conspiracy theories will say. I don't think that

634
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:29.880
it's some nefarious favor, you know, like shake handshaking, back scratching,

635
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.840
grand conspiracy.

636
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:33.840
I really do think it's just like.

637
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.360
A way of laundering money where it's like nations do

638
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.880
this because they can they can. It's just like it's

639
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.840
just like you know, slush funds and greedy corporations. I

640
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.440
don't think there's I don't think it's that deep, but

641
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.320
it is it is concerning that we give so much

642
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.639
money to Israel. I don't think we should.

643
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.519
Well, it's already been proven that a lot of this

644
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.280
aide like I said, okay, money laundering, but it's already

645
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.239
been proven that a lot of this does come back

646
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.519
to other companies where we have congress people who have

647
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.519
invested interest in these companies. Yes, and then they later

648
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.000
get a kickback via a you know, air quote donation

649
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.239
for whatever they need. So yeah, there is corruption there.

650
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:13.440
We can't I can't deny that.

651
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.880
Look, and that's what That's what I'm trying to say.

652
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.000
If you have a problem with government corruption, we are

653
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.760
on the same fucking team, man. But call it government corruption,

654
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.440
don't call it is really control of the government.

655
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:28.320
Right, because it's not.

656
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.800
It's it's the same level of corruption that the pharmaceutical

657
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.519
industry has. It's the same level of corruption that the

658
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.320
National Association of Realtors has.

659
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:39.719
Right.

660
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.760
Do you think those California wildfires and Hawaii Hawaii wildfires

661
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.199
didn't have some nefarious shit going on? You don't think

662
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.559
that there was somebody that was surveying it. You remember

663
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.119
after the Hawaii wildfires, how the government came in and

664
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.920
was like, hey, we're going to take your land. By

665
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.679
the way, Hey it's burnt down, you don't need it anymore. Yeah, right,

666
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.480
this shit happens, right, and I have a problem with

667
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.920
all of it, including the ship that happens from the Jews, right.

668
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:07.480
But I also have a huge problem when narratives are

669
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.840
framed because of a political agenda where you ignore one

670
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.480
thing and it's like moral relativism. Right, It's like the

671
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.559
girl that Elka I think her name is that was

672
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.280
just debating Dave Smith was trying to articulate this point

673
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.320
where it's like, have a problem with all of it,

674
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.280
or have a problem with none of it, because if

675
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.559
you hyper fixate on one thing, you're being disingenuous.

676
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.400
Agreed. I believe the I believe the issue that a

677
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.480
lot of people have with the US involvement on all

678
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.880
in the middleases trying to force Western ideals onto Middle

679
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:48.239
Eastern principles. It's never going to happen. It's it's it's

680
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.800
not We're just we're just too far apart. I mean, yeah,

681
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.440
we have some ties, as you said before, with with

682
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:59.880
Israel because of the Christian you know, principles or outlet right,

683
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.400
but like it's not the same. We're not. The Western

684
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:04.880
and Midle East are not exactly the same.

685
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.239
They're not and they're not gonna. We really do need

686
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.760
to separate the cultures, right. It's it's just like you

687
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.800
need to separate them in Gaza, you need to move

688
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.320
those people to Jordan, and we need to do the

689
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:13.719
same thing.

690
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:14.599
I am, I am.

691
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.519
I have called for a Muslim band in America for

692
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.599
for a long time, not because I hate Muslims, right,

693
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.199
I don't think that there is a It is oil

694
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.840
and Muslim sorry Islam, yes, and a Judeo Christian or

695
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.840
even Western civilization cannot coexist. They they just can't, right,

696
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:41.559
because their ideology is to change our ideology. Our ideology

697
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.000
is not to change their ideology, right, I mean.

698
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.719
Well not not in modern times anyway.

699
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.840
Well, as Christians, you're, as Christians are supposed to preach

700
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.119
the Word of God and hopefully people come, people come

701
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:53.760
to Christ.

702
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.800
So I was kind of referring to like the Crusades

703
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.199
and then you know the Catholic Church funding. Yeah, that's

704
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:00.880
why I said more.

705
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.519
I mean plenty of plenty of people have died in

706
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.960
the name of Christ through wars, the name of religion

707
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.920
in general and the name of religion in general. But

708
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.679
I'm talking about in twenty twenty five, right Like, in

709
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.000
twenty twenty five, you have countries in the Middle East

710
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.639
where they can still stone a woman to death. You

711
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:19.400
have countries in the Middle East where they can still

712
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.400
marry an eight year old, right like, this is not

713
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:27.920
going to mix with modern civilization in the greatest country

714
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.280
in the world. And you mentioned Judeo Christian values. Judeo

715
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.280
Christian values doesn't even necessarily have to apply to a religion.

716
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.480
Our constitution was framed based off of the Judeo Christian

717
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.159
principles of the Old Testament and the New Testament. Our

718
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.719
constitution mirrors the Ten Commandments, right like, our rule of

719
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:49.760
law mirrors the Old Testament that Jews follow, and our

720
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.760
I would say, the structure of our personality is more

721
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:56.800
New Testament.

722
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:57.079
Right.

723
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.840
So we have law and then we have principles. And

724
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.119
that's Judeo Christianism. It doesn't mean jew christ it doesn't.

725
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.519
It means it's really a way of coining. It's a

726
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.280
way of of of terming the relationship between the Jewish,

727
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:18.639
the original Jewish beliefs, and Western Christian values. And how

728
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.519
they somehow meet because you know, both both sides got entangled,

729
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.880
the West and and the and the East through those principles.

730
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.599
They're not exactly the same all the way down to

731
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.559
a t, but they're very similar. And then take commandments.

732
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:32.800
Going back to what you said, I mean, that's the

733
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.840
foundational principle of many nations when it comes to law exactly.

734
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.199
You know, it's like almost every I'm pretty sure that

735
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:46.599
murder right is illegal. Don't steal, don't kill, culture, don't steal,

736
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.880
don't kill, don't rape, you know, like that basic things.

737
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:51.400
Don't lie?

738
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.519
I mean that that's the other thing. You know, there's

739
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.280
this high there if you if you follow the New

740
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.360
Testament like I do, and the Old.

741
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.000
But if it's all the New Testament, the thing.

742
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.760
That that Christ hated more and the thing that God

743
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.639
hates more than anything is lies, right, Lying is pretty

744
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.119
much the greatest sin. And it's in different iterations, right,

745
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.800
like don't covet thy neighbor's wife, Like that's that's a

746
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.960
form of you know, dishonest, like you know, the circumventation

747
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.199
of trust.

748
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:21.480
And then you.

749
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.519
Have the Muslim religion, which tells literally tells you to

750
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.119
tells you to lie. There's this practice of takia tekia. Yeah,

751
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.519
tekia is is is if it if it moves your

752
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:34.960
agenda forward on it.

753
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.960
It's learning hiding who you are, hide who you are

754
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.440
until you have to reveal. It tells time to reveal

755
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:41.840
it exactly.

756
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.440
It does not mix. No, it just doesn't.

757
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.320
You you will agree. I've I've had Okay, I've done

758
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.679
many episodes on this and I've I've done some posts

759
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.599
where I literally have stated Islam is not compatible with

760
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.639
the West, and I was attacked that crazy. But nobody

761
00:40:56.679 --> 00:41:00.000
can make the argument on how they are compatible. And yeah,

762
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.159
and everybody wants to say, well, you got it wrong.

763
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:05.000
Not all Muslims are bad. Well, a Muslim by definition

764
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.760
from what I found, I could be wrong, But from

765
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.760
what I found is someone who follows the Koran or

766
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.079
practices Islam. That's who a Muslim is. The issue is, yes,

767
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.920
there could be some good Muslims, those who have modernized,

768
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.239
who have progressed and look at the Koran as well.

769
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.639
It's just like the Old Testament, right, do we really

770
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.199
live like the Old Testament? We're not stoning people that

771
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.800
was in the Little Testament. Yeah, but the culture progressed

772
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.679
and we realized we can't do that anymore. Now you're

773
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.719
the extremist Islamist. That's the issue. And I think they're

774
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.599
just using that to control people so they can just

775
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.719
literally gain power. It's all about power and control, that's

776
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.559
all it is. Well, this is what I told oh,

777
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:43.199
this is what I told own in our debate. Right,

778
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:48.840
there's about two billion Muslims, right and growing and growing,

779
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.679
and let's say, let's say ten percent of them right

780
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.159
are extreme, which it's more it's actually more right. A

781
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.639
lot of people don't believe this, but it really is right.

782
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.599
You have Sharia.

783
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.800
Sharia practicing Muslims are somewhere between five and nine percent,

784
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:10.519
and then strict religious Muslims are like forty percent. So

785
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.960
you can come to a conclusion that that the the

786
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.400
radicalized Muslims are probably somewhere in the double digits. Twenty

787
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.079
percent doesn't matter, right, But if it's ten, if it's

788
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:26.199
ten percent, right, that's two hundred million people that want

789
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.880
to cut your fucking head off, right, And that's too many.

790
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.159
That's way too many. That's two hundred million people who

791
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.840
have an ideology that they want to kill you if

792
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.800
you don't convert to their way of life.

793
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.880
You're correct, you know, it's always death to America, and

794
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.440
not even just America, death to the West.

795
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.719
And then they go but no, they chant that, they

796
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.960
chant Nott in Seattle, Balm Seadle.

797
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.239
Or what a stupid fucking argument.

798
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.840
I just I was like to the fact that you're

799
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:02.320
trying to equate some you know, bird trust fund baby

800
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.519
liberal who's just repeating that because they heard it. It's

801
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:13.119
just like versus versus a radical, like, you know, terrorists

802
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.400
who will actually do it. Like the difference between the

803
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:22.480
pink haired liberal in Seattle and Mohammed guy over here

804
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.079
is the Mohammed guy will set you on fire, literally,

805
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.880
just he will throw you off a building, He will

806
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.000
chop you to death, and the whole time he will

807
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.360
be screaming a lah.

808
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.400
Yeah, I've got the individual. But the one that just

809
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:39.760
just tried to burn those.

810
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.119
Colorado Yeah yeah, with the Maltov cocktails. His name was Mohammed.

811
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.239
Right. It's like, I'm like, you can't draw that motherfucker

812
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.440
you name it, man, you just can't. Let me. Let

813
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.440
me make a make a point that backs up a

814
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.199
little bit about what you said. So extreme aslam As

815
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:56.719
have been tied to terrorism I mean that that's the

816
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.800
whole basis and foundation for their movement. I'm going to

817
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.440
go to dominate the market, yep. I'm going to go

818
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.280
to some faction data because we're talking about possible attacks

819
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:06.880
here in the US, but people are ignoring, they're saying,

820
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.719
you're full of shit. Whatever. I have the Terrorist Screening

821
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.039
data here from Customs Border Control twenty twenty five alone,

822
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:18.360
And this is you know what the TSDs is. It's

823
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.239
the me Okay, it's the Terrorist Screening Data System. So

824
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.320
this has all the known terrorists, the people they know

825
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.719
are terrorists. So the number they apprehended that they knew

826
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.119
of that I actually caught so far in twenty twenty

827
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.400
five of known terrorists is seven hundred and seventy two

828
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.760
just this year so far. That's enough to put about

829
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.159
fifteen or more terrorists in every single fucking state of

830
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.880
the United States. And we've seen how small groups of

831
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.880
terrorists can do a lot of damage. How many how

832
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.840
many did it take to do to pull off nine

833
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:49.639
to eleven.

834
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.719
This hand for a handful of this is the CoA

835
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.800
did it. It's like I don't even care. And that

836
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.119
that's that's the other thing, right, This whole, this whole

837
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:03.199
dismissal right, this whole deflection of well, the nine to

838
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.360
eleven was an inside job. It doesn't negate the fact

839
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.280
that the terrorists got on a plane and flew a

840
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.679
plane into a fucking building. It's like, you can't you

841
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.719
can't force somebody to do that. They wanted to do that.

842
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.840
What was crazier is there was sorry to cut you off,

843
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.960
but no, what's crazier is I all right, I know

844
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.719
people literally and they've been guests mine that were in

845
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.599
intelligence literally working for the army. This is their job.

846
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.760
They were in intelligence. Yeah, these guys, one in particular,

847
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.679
literally told me the story how they were giving fair

848
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.920
warrant to the government about the chatter around nine to

849
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.639
eleven that had nothing to do with our own government.

850
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.079
It was chatter by terrorist organizations. And then then the

851
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:51.039
dismissal of the two terrorists that were taking flight courses

852
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:57.480
and training in those Yeah, there, Alane, they were training

853
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:58.159
in America.

854
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.480
So look, my brother, I told you, my brother was

855
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.159
in the Middle East when love happened. He called my

856
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.920
mom the night before. I'll never forget this. He called

857
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.719
my mom the night before and he said, I don't

858
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.199
know what's going on, But something's going to happen, right,

859
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:13.880
he's and because they had they had intel that they

860
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.280
were about to do something. Yes, it's like but and

861
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.960
it wasn't. It wasn't like, hey, I'm in the CIA.

862
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.320
No he was. He was infantry or he was recon

863
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.519
so he was forced recon And at the time, I'm

864
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.320
not even sure that he had even uh completed the

865
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.000
the UH special Forces training, so he might have just

866
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.920
been a grunt. But he called my mom and he

867
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.480
asked to talk to me too, and he just spoke

868
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.119
to me. He goes, hey, ro He's like, I just

869
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.119
wanted to say, in case anything happens, I love you.

870
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.360
And I was like, And then the next day when

871
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.880
it happened, that's why I started breaking down because I

872
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.159
was like, my brother just warned me that something was

873
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.840
going to happen. Twelve hours later, I'm looking at the

874
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.119
buildings falling down. This is something's wrong, something's bad. So yeah,

875
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.280
what was where they? Like I don't even like going

876
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.280
down these roads of validating people like own, but was

877
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:12.880
there probably some like I would say CIA involvement, Yeah, probably,

878
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:14.880
But you know what, we do that shit all the

879
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:15.559
fucking time.

880
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.400
Welcome to spy shit. We do, we do, you know,

881
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:20.079
and I don't like it. I don't like it. I'm

882
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:21.239
not just because I'm not.

883
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.000
Just because I'm not ripping my hair out and going

884
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.920
down rabbit holes doesn't mean I think it's cool or okay.

885
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.320
And that's the other problem that you have with debate me, bros. Right,

886
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.239
if you do not agree with them, if they cannot

887
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.880
force you to accept their narrative, they immediately say that

888
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.760
you're complicit. Right, It's like, no, I'm not complicit. Here's

889
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.800
the thing though, Right, how much time do you put

890
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:55.199
into this thing when you could be focusing on this

891
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.079
thing because this thing is happening right fucking now. And

892
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.719
JFK was killed sixty fucking years so I.

893
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.159
Understand where you're coming from, right, Yeah, I mean they

894
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.679
want they want to base all their arguments on these

895
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.519
deep rabbit holes of conspiracy theories versus what can be

896
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.920
proved and what's happening now. I mean, we have a

897
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.639
real situation. We've seen what's happened. Okay, let's just talk

898
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.119
about this. We've seen what's happened in the UK, you know,

899
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:27.480
through consistent immigration migration of asylum seekers. I guess now,

900
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:31.360
most of London is ran by a Muslim population, and

901
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.119
they start just like it's happening in New York where

902
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.519
this is. They get these people to say what you

903
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.960
want to hear, they get voted into a position of

904
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.719
power decision making, and then once they got one in,

905
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.599
they get the other guy and the other guy. Before

906
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.559
you know it, you've lost. And look at what's happening

907
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.039
in Ireland right now. The people over there are fucking pissed.

908
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.960
They're done. The other day, my wife just told me

909
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.239
about this. I didn't realize what's happening. They're fighting against

910
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:56.800
migrants right now over there. They're done with the government,

911
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.199
they're done with the invasion.

912
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.800
That's why mc connomer is getting attack so hard. I'm

913
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:03.760
not I'm not like you know, look, I don't I

914
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.079
don't know about the scandals. I don't care about the

915
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.840
scandals as far as Connor. Yeah, as far as Connor,

916
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.960
I'm I'm a fan of Connor McGregor. But if it

917
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.199
turns out that he raped somebody, fuck them all right.

918
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.679
But however, my point is not that. My point is

919
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.119
a person like Trump coming in and uh, you know,

920
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.199
be defying the odds in twenty sixteen was because people

921
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.519
were tired of, like the what was going on in America.

922
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.039
Somebody like Connor McGregor could fucking win the presidency in

923
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:39.920
Ireland because people are tired. It's like, but the thing

924
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.280
about what's happening in the UK, Like you look at

925
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.559
the rape statistics in Germany, you look at the stabbing

926
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.639
statistics and uh and the rape gangs in the UK,

927
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.079
and you look at the common denominator and it's like,

928
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:52.159
it's fucking Islam.

929
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:52.440
It's not.

930
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.280
And they say immigrants, what kind Like there's a difference

931
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.599
between the immigrants in America which have come here from

932
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.559
a bunch of different nations. And sure, yeah, we have

933
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.559
a Haitian problem, we have a like you know, like

934
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.840
Al Salvadorian Venezuelan, we have you know, the Latin country's

935
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:14.760
problem over here. But over there in Europe their problem

936
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:20.199
is way worse because that ideology that's taking over their nation.

937
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.119
You can't vote it out, right, you have to fight

938
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.039
again at this point, Yeah, you can't. You cannot vote

939
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.639
that out if in the UK, the UK I think

940
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.599
is going to be i would say, taken over by Islam,

941
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:34.960
and it already kind of is.

942
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.760
Well, it's as part of their playbook. Yeah. I mean,

943
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:39.800
if they can't do it through violence and overpowering you

944
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.119
with the military, which they really don't have because they're

945
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.960
very segregated and broken people as far as who's in

946
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.400
charge and who's going to do what, how else they

947
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:47.840
going to do it?

948
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:48.960
They're not stupid.

949
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.719
You're taking advantage of your system by playing on your sympathies.

950
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.440
I mean, that's that's why. Well everything's going on with

951
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:59.840
exclusivity and DEI. They're using those two things to infiltrate

952
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.239
the US. When we look at Dearborn right now.

953
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:07.079
It's yes, it's actually exactly, it's Andy. They even tried

954
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.800
to change the flag so they looked more like the

955
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.599
flag and I'm like, I'm like, guys, look here's the deal.

956
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:17.119
This whole, this whole anti Israel woke right movement where

957
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.519
it's like a pac blah blah blah. The fucking conspiracy.

958
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.440
There is the the irony that the majority of these

959
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.239
people continuously talk about this is a distraction. You're being distracted.

960
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.360
You don't understand. Look at you don't see what the

961
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.800
real picture is. While they don't understand what is actually

962
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:39.519
going on, they are being played, right. They are useful

963
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.239
idiots for a cause. And I think the cause is

964
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.679
Marxism of accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing. Right,

965
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.360
So all of the like and Dougs Murray said it,

966
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:58.960
uh he the quote. I think it was Gail Gail something. Uh,

967
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.159
show me what, Show me what you accuse the Jews

968
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.559
of doing, and I'll show you what. Tell me what

969
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.320
you accuse the Jews of being guilty of, and I'll

970
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:07.440
tell you what you're guilty of.

971
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.960
Oh okay, So Islam and.

972
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.480
You know Iran and all that stuff, they're like, they're

973
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.320
committing a genocide, they're trying to take over, They're doing this,

974
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.400
they're doing that, And it's like, bro, that's exactly what

975
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:24.559
Islam is doing. Literally everywhere everything you die, everything you're saying.

976
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.159
The Jews and Israel a country. By the way, I

977
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.360
always have to bring this part up. It's the size

978
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:35.840
of New Jersey, nine million people, nine billion people. They

979
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:40.400
are point two percent of the global population, two percent

980
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:46.480
of the American population, whereas Muslims are twenty five percent. Right,

981
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.840
So we have a base off of numbers and statistics

982
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.800
language rhetoric, like the amount of terrorist attacks we have

983
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.960
a fucking huge Muslim problem and a very very tiny

984
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.719
jew problem, right, and there is a problem there.

985
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:05.199
I just hope you know, Okay, I already know everyone's

986
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.320
going to watch this and say we're anti Islam, and

987
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.559
you know Islam fucking right, I am, and I'm not.

988
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:09.920
I'm not.

989
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.920
I'm not even gonna Look, here's the deal. I do

990
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.760
not Muslims. You said it earlier, right, there's a there's

991
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.119
a Muslim population that is peaceful because they ignore their

992
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.840
own religious doctrine. They have they have made it into

993
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.199
something that it is not. They have to ignore the

994
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.960
parts of the Quran that tell them command them to

995
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.480
do certain things. They literally aren't their own religion. They

996
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.639
are something else. And those those Muslims are wonderful people.

997
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.599
I know them. They're great.

998
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:45.920
The vast majority of Muslims are great. But like I said,

999
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.679
if ten percent of them aren't, that's two hundred million

1000
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:50.599
people that want to cut your head off. So I'm

1001
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:51.559
not anti Muslim, I.

1002
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.599
Am, no, No, No, it's it's the extreme right. It's it's

1003
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.079
the extremists that are the issue. And it's it's equitable

1004
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.199
to me, like, we don't live this way again, as

1005
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.800
I said, you know, Old Testament, it was pretty cut

1006
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.079
and dry. Well, we don't live that way. We progress

1007
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.719
as a society or as a culture. And some some

1008
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.559
of them, some of those are practice.

1009
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.360
I like to put I want to push back on

1010
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:13.199
that a little bit, sure, because because the Old like

1011
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.480
the argument that the Old Testament is, you know, like

1012
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:18.840
the fire and brimstone thing. It's like, even in the

1013
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:23.679
Old Testament, God says you save all of the judgment

1014
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.440
for me, right, Even God says you do not enact

1015
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.880
your your law and your rule over others.

1016
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:32.159
Right.

1017
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.519
And then there's there's the parts of the Bible in

1018
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.159
the Old Testament where they're like they're talking about how

1019
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.679
if a person cheats, you stone them to death. That

1020
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:43.880
was for specific tribes, and it was for it was

1021
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:48.719
specific laws based off of specific needs. And like there's

1022
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:50.400
you know, like the slavery thing in there. It's like

1023
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.039
it's there's a lot of nuance and you need to

1024
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.400
contextualize it and understand it. But there is nothing in

1025
00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.400
the Old Testament or the New Testament that commands a

1026
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:06.360
person to unjustly subjugate another person. Everything in the Old

1027
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.840
Testament can be contextualized for the time where it's there.

1028
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:13.800
You can explain it. You can't explain Islam. So yeah,

1029
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:19.239
I don't. I don't understand what you're saying. Old Testament was. Okay,

1030
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.800
this is what I look at the Old Testament as

1031
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:21.400
it was.

1032
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.239
It was. It was literally instructions and laws to keep

1033
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.920
a tribe together that didn't have a land. That's exactly

1034
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.440
what it was.

1035
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:31.000
Correct.

1036
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.079
And the things you just brought up with, like the slavery,

1037
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:36.079
the stoning, those were what was happening at the time

1038
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.000
within certain tribes. So yes, you gotta, you gotta, you

1039
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.880
gotta look at the time periods like Okay, yes we

1040
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.840
have slaves in America a long time ago. Was it

1041
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.960
the right thing to do? No? But is what was

1042
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.039
happening and people who lived through that period had to

1043
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:50.800
live through it. So there might be some statements, as

1044
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.679
you said, that could be taken out of context because

1045
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.480
you're not understanding what the individual is actually going through

1046
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.320
or the era they're living through. So I understand that. Yeah,

1047
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:00.239
I agree.

1048
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.880
And then but then but then again, like I said,

1049
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.920
the Qoran, you can't you're not allowed to contextualize it,

1050
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.079
right like that, like in their in their religion.

1051
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.400
You don't get to have your own interpretation exactly.

1052
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:14.000
So if you don't get to interpret the Koran, but

1053
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:18.239
you can interpret the Bible, then we have a big

1054
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:22.840
problem because, like I said, it's ikea instruction. It's it's

1055
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.760
it's A goes into B, he goes into C and

1056
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.159
you kill or convert any infidels and like and and

1057
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.400
I'm like, yo, that's the problem. Look, that's why I

1058
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:38.039
say I one thousand percent have a problem with Islam.

1059
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.119
I do not have a problem with Muslims. Islam is

1060
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:45.159
the religion. Muslims are a people. There's a problem with

1061
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:51.719
the system. That's not me being like muslim phobic. That's

1062
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.639
one hundred percent of me being Islamophobic.

1063
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.000
Well, let's let me ask you this before we move

1064
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.159
on from this topic. I mean, because look, there's never

1065
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.320
going to be an answer to this, you know, but

1066
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.079
there really isn't. You and I given a lot of this,

1067
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.840
some people are going to oppose it. But as you

1068
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.320
said before, I mean, there's a three thousand year old

1069
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:11.199
religious war regardless in the area, and everybody wants the

1070
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.199
Holy Land. Everybody has a claim to it. Until Jesus

1071
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:18.119
comes back, it's not getting solved, right. But I'm going

1072
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:21.079
to ask you this October seventh. I believe Israel had

1073
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.400
a right to retaliate. They should have. Anybody should. We

1074
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:26.000
would have. We probably would have obliterated. We would have

1075
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:27.920
done way worse. Oh I know for a fact we

1076
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:32.239
would have. Do you think at this point, though, is

1077
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.760
there any period where they take a step back and go, look,

1078
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.760
we made our statement, We'll let you know who we are.

1079
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:39.760
Should they reel it in a bit at this point?

1080
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.039
Do you think that? Or do you think, hey, you

1081
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.199
know what, let let them do what they got to do.

1082
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:49.679
It's a good question, and it's a valid question because

1083
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.719
it has been over a year and a half. But again,

1084
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.880
what I will point to is in the Ukraine Russian War,

1085
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.400
I think it was seven thousand soldiers died last week

1086
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.800
or before or something like that. Is anybody telling them

1087
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.480
to rein it in? Is anybody telling them to pull

1088
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:10.239
it back? It's a war man. It's like, listen, I

1089
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:14.480
don't know the ins and outs of the military operations

1090
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.440
going on in Israel. I don't know why they are

1091
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.760
doing what they're doing, right, and if it turns out

1092
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.320
that they are doing shit that they shouldn't be doing,

1093
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.559
and I can see the evidence. I will one be like,

1094
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:32.119
whoa dude. No, But if we are only going off

1095
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.119
of media reports, and we're only going off of Haret's

1096
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:39.519
articles and Al Jazero headlines, then no, I don't think

1097
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.480
that we have a right to tell any other nation

1098
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.800
how to fight their fucking war right. And and the

1099
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.719
numbers that people are quoting I don't believe are the numbers,

1100
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:55.239
because you have the iyatola literally coming out last week

1101
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.840
or this week and say, look at what we did.

1102
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.320
We killed this many people, we did any it's a

1103
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.239
fucking lie. He got his ass handed to him takiya literally,

1104
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.079
lying is part of their doctrine. So when they say, oh,

1105
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.079
fifty thousand civilians, a lot of them women and children,

1106
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:14.159
blah blah blah, bullshit, I don't. I not. By the way,

1107
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.679
if you take one fucking look at Gaza, any reasonable

1108
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:21.440
person will be like, Israel definitely killed civilians. I mean one,

1109
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:23.960
And do I like it?

1110
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:29.800
No? But do I.

1111
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:34.079
Necessarily like that we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

1112
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:35.199
Not really?

1113
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:36.760
Do? Am I okay with it?

1114
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:37.400
Yeah?

1115
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.239
Because I think that it saved more lives? I think

1116
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.079
when you when you take out civilians and your goal

1117
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:46.280
is to save more lives in the long run. That's war,

1118
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:49.559
and war's hell. So I don't I just don't think

1119
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.320
that we're I don't think that we're in a position,

1120
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.079
especially with the shit that we've done, to tell anybody

1121
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:56.920
to pull it back or rein it in.

1122
00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.880
Yeah. I can agree with that, and I believe that.

1123
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.079
But this is where the whole argument of the morality

1124
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:05.960
of the situation comes in from guys like you know,

1125
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.800
Dave Smith. They can argue the morality of it all day.

1126
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.199
A false binary it is. But you know, war as hell,

1127
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.360
as it's been said, war as hell, and in war,

1128
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:18.039
you know, someone like Dave, if someone ran behind him,

1129
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:19.760
push him down, start raping in with the broomstick, is

1130
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:21.400
he going to try to argue the morality of it?

1131
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:24.960
He turns around, slaps on the face. Yeah, let's just

1132
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.679
be real. Well, you know he's gonna have reaction. He's

1133
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:28.800
gonna have a violent reaction.

1134
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.440
I came up with a with an analogy a while back.

1135
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:33.079
Let me see if I can remember it, because it

1136
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.800
was a good one. But I'm going I think I

1137
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:40.199
only used it once. Okay, here's here's October seventh in

1138
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:43.280
an in an analogy form, right. I think it was

1139
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:47.119
Anna Anna, Anna Casparan, the young Turks. Check she made

1140
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:51.880
she made this this analogy like there's a gunman holding

1141
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.960
a gun to your grandmother's head and the cops show

1142
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.280
up and they shoot the grandmother to kill the gunman. Right,

1143
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.519
And that's not what's really going on. Here's what really happened,

1144
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:07.360
all right, the like hamas the the gunman. Okay, they

1145
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.880
actually went in and they killed that woman's whole family, right.

1146
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:13.440
Then they took her back to that house where they

1147
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.599
were holding her hostage, and they locked her in her

1148
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.480
room and they didn't tell anybody what the fuck which

1149
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.679
room she was in. And then from the window they

1150
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.079
went out and they yelled, I'm gonna do it again,

1151
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.480
over and over and over again, and as soon as

1152
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.000
you leave, I'm going to kill the rest of her family,

1153
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.000
and I'm gonna kill your family too, and I'm gonna

1154
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:33.119
do this, I'm gonna do that. And then and then

1155
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:36.840
at a certain point, when do you blow up the house?

1156
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:38.840
Right, like like.

1157
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:43.320
When do you when do you say, hey, look shit,

1158
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.400
I mean we don't want we don't want this, we

1159
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:50.320
don't want this to happen again. And sure, like, and

1160
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.599
by the way, that the the hostage in this situation,

1161
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:56.719
The analogy doesn't really work in her in her interpretation,

1162
01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:00.840
because it's she's saying that the hostages are the Palestinian

1163
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.480
people and the real hostages were the actual Israeli people,

1164
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.800
but they're used, they are they're using human shields while

1165
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:14.679
constantly saying that while they're firing rockets. Also, by the way, right,

1166
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:19.400
and anyone anyone who who doesn't almost right, seems like

1167
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.880
it's it's hundreds a day, right, dozens a day now,

1168
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.880
But at one point it was hundreds a day. It

1169
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.679
was I think that I think that at one point

1170
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:31.039
it was seven thousand rockets, right, And it's like, at

1171
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:35.239
one at what point do you say, Yeah, I kind

1172
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.719
of am okay with killing civilians if it stops this ship.

1173
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.519
And like, I that's that's my argument. Is it a

1174
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:43.719
moral one? No?

1175
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.599
Is it a pragmatic one?

1176
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.960
Yeah, it's that's a tough one. It's a tough one

1177
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.159
to agree with or disagree with, because.

1178
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.960
That's what I'm saying. Has this this false binary where

1179
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:57.920
it's like, no, killing wrong, And it's like, and that's

1180
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.639
the thing. The woman that he was debating on Pierce Morgan.

1181
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:07.880
She goes, you're trying to make an equivalency between these

1182
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.440
two these two people, right, Israel and and and Gaza

1183
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.960
or Hamas. I guess you could say, right. And it's like,

1184
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.320
that's like trying to make an equivalency between a cop

1185
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.880
and a robber, because they're both pointing guns at each

1186
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.039
other and they're both in fear for their lives. And

1187
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:28.079
it's like, no, they're one of them is a terrorist organization,

1188
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:32.880
the other one is a legitimate government that is abiding

1189
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.440
by all international law and rules of war. I mean,

1190
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:39.280
and if they don't, then that's that's why we have

1191
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:41.159
these these organizations.

1192
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.280
I don't I don't think anybody. I don't believe anybody

1193
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.280
wants to see innocent people or civilians killed. Yeah, okay,

1194
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.000
these these people are, unfortunately cott in the middle between

1195
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.760
two governing bodies. You know. I wish that the governing

1196
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:55.760
bodies of leaders were just getting a fucking ring and

1197
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.280
fight it out and leave the people out of it.

1198
01:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.320
But that'll never happen. Yeah.

1199
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.239
Well, but yeah, I mean, where where are where are

1200
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:08.000
the Hamas military installations? Where exactly are there military installations?

1201
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.760
They're in apartment buildings, they're in hospitals.

1202
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.639
There, right, And then that's where that's what I was

1203
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:14.840
going to get to, is that you know all the

1204
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.400
hospitals they claim that are being destroyed, like you know

1205
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:18.679
how many hospitals are in Gaza?

1206
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.119
By the way, they just keep on popping up.

1207
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:24.559
I mean, at some point I forgot what the percentage was,

1208
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.079
but someone made a point. Don't quote me on this

1209
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:28.840
because I can't recall it all, but they were saying

1210
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.480
like something like La or whatever, some county there's like

1211
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.760
twenty six hospitals within a certain area, and then you

1212
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.159
got Gaza has over two hundred hospitals somehow, and it's

1213
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:39.760
a much smaller area, just like are is this not

1214
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.840
just a practice of deception in war?

1215
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:47.880
Well, here's here's another question nobody's really asking, right, Gaza

1216
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:52.239
is just a few miles really like it's a small strip.

1217
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.719
It's a small relatively, right, relatively, it's a really small.

1218
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:56.519
It's in like three miles.

1219
01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:58.800
I think it's I think it's about I think it's

1220
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:03.800
about three miles. Okay, So now October seventh was over

1221
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:07.000
over a year and a half ago. Okay, how how

1222
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.679
long does it take for somebody to walk three miles

1223
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:11.880
because I know it doesn't take I know it doesn't

1224
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.960
take two fucking years. Right, So as soon as the

1225
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.119
first fucking bomb went off, right, I, if I was

1226
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:20.639
a Palestinian, I would be like, I'm gonna go out

1227
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:24.159
into the like I don't care into the ether. I'll

1228
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.880
I'll build a treehouse somewhere. But I'm not fucking staying here.

1229
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:29.760
So why are civilians there?

1230
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:30.159
Right?

1231
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.800
Why are they there? Because Hamas won't let them leave.

1232
01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:34.679
No, they won't let them leave. That that's a that's

1233
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.119
a that's a good point that nobody ever brings up.

1234
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:39.920
You know. The argument is like, well, deir Lan, why

1235
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:41.760
should they leave their own home. Well, they're not given

1236
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.840
the opportunityies bombs. That's why, Yeah, lost won't let them go.

1237
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:49.440
I love I love San Antonio, I love my apartment,

1238
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.039
I love where I live. My neighborhood is fucking awesome. Right,

1239
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:54.239
if a fucking bomb went off tomorrow, you know what

1240
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:55.480
I would do, I'd fucking leave.

1241
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.239
That's a that's a really good reason to who have

1242
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:01.800
will really fast and figuring it out.

1243
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:08.599
Right, that's the dumbest argument ever. They're standing. They're staying

1244
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:11.159
there because they're well.

1245
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:12.519
You know what. The other question that has never been

1246
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.559
answered is you know they blame Israel for the aid

1247
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:19.480
never getting to the Palatine people. Answer why before all

1248
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.119
this happened, that Hamas and the leaders of most extremist

1249
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.079
islam As governing bodies always seem to get rich from

1250
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.320
the aid that is given to that country, but yet

1251
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.599
the people always remain poor and hungry.

1252
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.960
Exactly, Well, no, take it one step further, sure, why

1253
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.519
do they need Why does Israel? Why is Israel required

1254
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:41.320
to allow aid in there?

1255
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:41.719
Right?

1256
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:46.239
No other nation in history is required to feed their enemy,

1257
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:50.199
right like, and for for some reason, this one is now.

1258
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:54.719
I think they should. But but my question was why. Right,

1259
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:59.039
here's the answer, Because they're not feeding their enemy, they're

1260
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.880
feeding their own thought people. Because Gaza is in Israel,

1261
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:07.400
it's not a country, it is in Israel. Israel has

1262
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.719
a moral obligation to get aid in there, and they

1263
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:15.199
have an absolute right to restrict it, to inspect it,

1264
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.840
to use it as a bargaining chip, because guess what,

1265
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:23.480
it's technically a civil war. It's technically a region in

1266
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.320
Israel firing at the main body of Israel. So I

1267
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.119
don't have any problem if Israel were to be like,

1268
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.679
you know what, no food until you stop fucking around.

1269
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.920
But that's not what they're doing. Well, that they're actually

1270
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:39.320
allowing the they're allowing the aid in. They're just they're

1271
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:42.639
just allowing it in under their terms.

1272
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:47.840
That's that's an interesting take, But the reality is okay, Israel.

1273
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:52.039
Israel relinquished its control of GAZ. I believe two thousand

1274
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:57.920
and six, five thousand and six, control not ownership fair enough.

1275
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.639
But they're not supposed to be controlling it, right, Okay.

1276
01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:03.920
So so HAMAS is the government body of the policy,

1277
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:07.239
and so any negotiations should be between the Israeli government

1278
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:10.840
and HAMAS. Yeah, I should become on the table to say, hey,

1279
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.599
we need water, we need electricity. Where are we going

1280
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.079
to get it from? We're kind of cut off. Can

1281
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.600
you help us out? But they don't do that. So

1282
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.640
I get your point. But you know, it's all about optics,

1283
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:26.800
I believe, you know, And that's the bigger reason I

1284
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.000
believe that they're being forced to do this. Do they

1285
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.840
have to know? And war you don't have to But

1286
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:34.079
I think it's it's really comes down to what you said.

1287
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:36.399
It may it may be them taking care of their people.

1288
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.119
Or just realizing, look, there's innocence here that shouldn't be

1289
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:41.319
caught in the middle of all of this. And I

1290
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.239
believe that they see that, the world sees that. The

1291
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.720
problem is you know, terrorists fight dirty, period. You know,

1292
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.800
they fight dirty. There's no there's no there's no playbook

1293
01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:51.039
for this.

1294
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:55.560
Everybody who's arguing.

1295
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:57.399
Yeah, everybody's arguing what Israel's doing right or wrong in

1296
01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.359
a war are the people that aren't even involved in it.

1297
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.720
Okay, so right away in it. Yeah, but I would

1298
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:07.399
just put that out there. So you said that, but

1299
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:11.920
you said that Israel, Israel should be negotiating with the

1300
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:13.600
governing body of Palestine.

1301
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:15.039
Well in both ways is what I'm saying.

1302
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.760
Yeah, yeah, sure, no, and they should they should, right,

1303
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:23.199
But if it's a government, what what's their currency, right?

1304
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:27.960
Their currency is the Israel shekel and the dinari. Right,

1305
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.159
they don't have their own currency. They don't have a

1306
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.279
real president. They got the you know, the Palestonian authority,

1307
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:37.600
and they got this like fake president. Their leaders are

1308
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:42.680
in Qatar, uh in Gaza, but they don't have a

1309
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.760
real government. They have they have a group.

1310
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.720
That's okay, I'm sorry, representative body.

1311
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.680
That's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, no, and you're right,

1312
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.039
you're right, right. But so that's what I mean by

1313
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:54.760
I'm saying it's a civil war. It would kind of

1314
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.880
be like like the governor of Texas are like negotiating

1315
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.840
with the President of America if there was a succession,

1316
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.079
right like, So that's what it's. That's the better, the

1317
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:08.479
better analogy. And I'm not saying that you made a

1318
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:10.479
different analogy. I'm just I'm just making a point of

1319
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:14.159
clarification so that people understand that they don't you don't

1320
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:17.319
want to create this idea that these are two sovereign

1321
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:19.760
nations that are I'm.

1322
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:20.560
Not I'm not not no, no.

1323
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.039
I'm not saying I'm not saying you are. I'm not

1324
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:24.079
saying you are right. But what I'm saying is there

1325
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:26.720
are a lot of people that frame this as if

1326
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.760
Israel should or has to negotiate with these people, as

1327
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:35.600
if they were a sovereign state. They're not right, So

1328
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.680
it's a completely different It's like it's a weird situation, right.

1329
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.640
You have you have Ukraine and Russia, right, two countries

1330
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.880
right fighting over a land grab, and I would I

1331
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.319
would make arguments against both of their leaders uh. As

1332
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:51.640
far as corruption and as far as how they've handled

1333
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.520
the situation, I don't see a good guy there. But

1334
01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:58.960
what they really are, they're what they're both fighting for

1335
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.920
is their people. I will say that I think that

1336
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:05.479
they are both fighting for their their their nation.

1337
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:06.119
Right.

1338
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.239
The war in Israel is a completely different animal because

1339
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.159
it's it's an ideological war. It's not a political war.

1340
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:14.680
It's not a war for the people, it's not a

1341
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.479
war for It is a war for ideology. You have

1342
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.039
one side that they want to kill the other side

1343
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.680
they don't want to negotiate. Then you have the other

1344
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.000
side who has to negotiate with people who want to

1345
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.359
kill them, right, And it's it's completely different, right. So

1346
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.239
I just don't see how you look through you look

1347
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:34.640
at it, not you, but some people look at it

1348
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:40.319
through a normal lens of previous conflicts. There's no comparison,

1349
01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:43.319
and and I think that's an important distinction to make

1350
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:45.079
so people understand when they make the argument.

1351
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:47.600
Well, I think I think in the end, the issue

1352
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.920
with this whole conflict is I believe many people just

1353
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:54.439
think Israel went too far at this point. And again

1354
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:56.000
I think that's what it is. I think that's what

1355
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.439
people are hung up on. Look, and it's a pretty

1356
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:00.760
big hang up. I mean, I'm not trying to I'm

1357
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:02.560
not trying to make this seem like a small issue.

1358
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.920
It is just I think that's not where it lies.

1359
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:09.279
And I'm not making excuses necessarily for Israel what I

1360
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.760
But I have said this since since the beginning of

1361
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.239
this war. I don't really I mean, I have a

1362
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:18.720
dog in the fight because you know, I believe in

1363
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:22.840
the Abrahamic Covenant, right I am a Christian who is

1364
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:26.840
observant of the Old Testament, which I think most Christians

1365
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:31.079
should be. So I think that I have a duty

1366
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.640
to stand up for the Jewish people, not a modern

1367
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.479
nation state of Israel, just because it shares the same

1368
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:41.359
name as someplace in the Bible. But I do know that,

1369
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:43.640
you know, you got nine million Rican Jews over there,

1370
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.439
and I'm like, hey, I got to kind of take

1371
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:50.279
a side here. But I have been of the mindset

1372
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.600
that they haven't gone far enough, right oka. Not because

1373
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:57.560
not because that not because I think that.

1374
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:00.079
It would be.

1375
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.800
What's it called, like reaction, Not because I think that

1376
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:07.520
it would be like you know, George Bush going into

1377
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:10.239
iraqan being like you killed our people, I'm saying, I

1378
01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:16.119
think that they should have done a consolidated, just massive

1379
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:18.520
attack right away, and I think the situation will be

1380
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.800
over by now. I think the mistake they made was

1381
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:25.000
not going far enough early, and now they're sort of

1382
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:29.760
dripping out these attacks and prolonging it and stretching it out,

1383
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:34.920
and it's giving the appearance of a disproportionate response when

1384
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.279
in actuality, they could have just bombed the whole region

1385
01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.199
had the exact same amount of desk that they have

1386
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:43.000
spread out over the past, you know, eighteen months or

1387
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.880
whatever it is, and people would probably have gotten over

1388
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.920
it by now. So that's where I think that a

1389
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.159
lot of people are getting that notion.

1390
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.920
Okay, I think what Israel was trying to do is

1391
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:55.560
get rid of the root of the problem, going back

1392
01:13:55.560 --> 01:14:00.079
to that statement, which was the terrorist organization, which was Hamas.

1393
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.880
So they were trying to do strategic attacks, strategic missions

1394
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.359
and operations to get those individuals. So that's why this

1395
01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.439
has been dragging out. And you're correct, they could have

1396
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:14.880
obliterated Gaza, but yeah, they would could have been limited

1397
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:18.319
to criminals because then we're looking at wiping out the

1398
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:22.479
innocence an Unfortunately they're trying to walk this tight rope

1399
01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:24.760
of Look, we need to take care of this. I

1400
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:28.439
can give a fuck less versus we need to strategically

1401
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:31.079
take out Hamas. Who's the instigators and the people they're

1402
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:32.920
driving this entire thing.

1403
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.239
Well, exactly, they're damned if they do They're damned if

1404
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:38.920
they done right right, Because what you said is that

1405
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:40.680
would have been a war crime. I don't think so.

1406
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:42.960
I don't think that would have been a war crime. No, no, no, no.

1407
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.840
If you saw, if if you had October seventh happen

1408
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.720
and is and BB said drop a bomb on Gaza

1409
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:51.560
and get rid of that three mile strip of land

1410
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.399
right now, I don't think that's a war crime. And

1411
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:56.359
he would have had he would have literally said he

1412
01:14:56.399 --> 01:15:00.000
would be like, called all two hundred and fifty hostile

1413
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:04.359
families and tell them, I'm sorry, but your your family

1414
01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:05.359
members not coming home.

1415
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.640
They're going to be a casualty of war. I think

1416
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:09.479
it would have been a war crime if they did that.

1417
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.119
But but here's what they could do. What they have done,

1418
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.439
by the way, Zach, which does support your argument, is

1419
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:18.159
they have given the people fair warning. They have said, yeah, evacuate,

1420
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:22.319
take shelter. This is happening. The problem though, is as

1421
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:25.000
you as you mentioned earlier, is SAMAS won't let those

1422
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.680
people leave. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

1423
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.920
So again it's it's an impossible situation. John Spencer breaks

1424
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:35.159
this down in several different articles that he's written where

1425
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:37.319
he talks about the complexity and how this has never

1426
01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:41.560
happened before in any modern warfare. Where there's been there's

1427
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.720
been some comparative comparisons to embedding in civilian areas in

1428
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.960
Nazi Germany, et cetera, et cetera. But this level of

1429
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:54.159
consolidation while simultaneously not allowing the people that are there

1430
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.279
to leave to with the intent of having them as

1431
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:01.800
human shields. It's never happened throughout history. Is negotiating something

1432
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.640
that's never been there, navigating of course that nobody's ever

1433
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:10.000
gone down. And I don't know, I think there, I

1434
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.159
don't really. I don't think again that we have a

1435
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:20.319
right to play armchair quarterback when they're the ones that

1436
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:27.359
have to decide what's best for their sovereignty. Like like again,

1437
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:32.800
we we literally bombed, we bombed Hiroshima, and we said

1438
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:35.840
to the Japanese, are you done? And they said no,

1439
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:40.800
fuck you and then we bombed Nagasaki and we said

1440
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.800
are you done now, and they went yeah, right, right.

1441
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.359
So I don't understand how it's a war crime when

1442
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:52.640
you can justify the same justification that we used in

1443
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:57.319
that operation. More people will die if we don't do

1444
01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.479
this right. And okay, hold on.

1445
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:02.920
We're not arguing, by the way, I'm just what I'm

1446
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.560
going to say is I think I think the difference

1447
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:07.319
being is we know better now, right. So those bombs

1448
01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:11.920
that were dropped Nagasaki, Hiroshima, we didn't really understand the

1449
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:16.239
entire situation or what would happen dropping an atomic bomb,

1450
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.039
for example, we didn't know what the fall art would

1451
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.439
to be. We had no idea the actual impact. We

1452
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.680
had studies, we had tests, but no one's ever dropped

1453
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.760
one before. That's why now, you know, everyone's so hesitant

1454
01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:29.000
to do it again, because we know the difference.

1455
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:32.000
I'm not even saying that they should have nuked Gaza,

1456
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:34.039
by the way, I'm just saying.

1457
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:36.399
I'm just saying the difference between that situation is now

1458
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:39.399
and now is really we know better, we know we

1459
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:41.319
know the ramification, we know what will happen.

1460
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:43.800
I mean, you don't drop a nuke three miles from

1461
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:47.640
your house. Well, no fair enough. But look, I mean,

1462
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.800
but look like I think that I'm not a military

1463
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:53.479
I'm not a military strategist, so I shouldn't I shouldn't

1464
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:55.800
even be talking about this because I'm really just opining.

1465
01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:59.600
I'm just a contractor that's giving my opinion. So could

1466
01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:02.560
I be wrong one hundred percent? Am I There's a

1467
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.399
huge possibility I'm wrong. I'm a contractor, right, But but

1468
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.720
I do read I read the John Spencer articles. I

1469
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.439
try to be as educated as I can on this

1470
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.039
and and I'm offering my opinion because you asked me

1471
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:17.399
a question. But here's here's what I will say.

1472
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.920
Right. I know for.

1473
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:25.399
A fact, based off of my research, that the civilian

1474
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:31.640
to combatant ratio in this particular war is either on

1475
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:37.079
par or below other comparable conflicts. I know for a

1476
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:41.119
fact that Israel is telling these people. I have so

1477
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:45.399
many friends in Israel, They're like, they give me this information.

1478
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.279
Over the past eighteen months, Israel is sending out leaflets,

1479
01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:54.600
sending out mass texts, sending out sirens. So every time

1480
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:58.479
they try to bomb a target, they do everything they

1481
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:00.560
can to get these people. Give these people heads up

1482
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.840
which is also giving the terrorists a heads up.

1483
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:06.000
So I don't see.

1484
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:09.439
From a three thousand foot you know view, I don't

1485
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:14.760
see them going like you said, like too far. I

1486
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:20.319
see them. I see them trying to thread a very

1487
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:25.199
small needle. And I don't know. And hey, look, if

1488
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:27.399
it turns out like I said, if we look back

1489
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.199
on this in five years, ten years, shifty years, right,

1490
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.840
if we get all the information after the fact, and

1491
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.479
we find out that Israel actually was just indiscriminately bombing

1492
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:38.159
people and they lie to all of us and everything

1493
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:40.159
like that, I'm going to be their first critic because

1494
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.199
I have no loyalty to the nation state or governing

1495
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:48.319
body of Israel. I have a loyalty to the Jewish

1496
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:51.880
people because I believe in the Abrahamic Covenant, right, and

1497
01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:54.880
anybody that's doing shit like that that some people are

1498
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.119
accusing all the Jews of, even though it would just

1499
01:19:58.199 --> 01:20:01.439
be a small part of of a government which probably

1500
01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.640
has corruption in it, because every government does. You're not

1501
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:06.960
going to get any argument from me, right, I'm not.

1502
01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:07.439
I'm not.

1503
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.880
I don't have a blind loyalty to to anything other

1504
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:16.000
than the Bible. And I mean, I would say pretty

1505
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:18.479
pretty much the Constitution, cause the two books that I

1506
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.359
really follow without asking questions of the constitution of the Bible.

1507
01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.760
Okay, so the I'm going to say something that I'm

1508
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:29.560
sure is very controversial because this is what I think.

1509
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:34.600
I say, let Israel starting and their own wars man. Yeah,

1510
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.720
you know, if if they if they want to start something,

1511
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.439
let them end it. If someone attacks them, let them retaliate. Sure,

1512
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.039
and they're going to have to deal with the consequences

1513
01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:43.920
on how they handle that. That's my opinion of it.

1514
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.000
And I understand they're one of our greatest allies and

1515
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000
we're always going to be there to, you know, protect

1516
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.279
our little brother, as they say. But at the same time,

1517
01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:53.439
I mean, at what point do you let them just

1518
01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:56.079
stand on their own? At what point do you just say, look,

1519
01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.319
here's your situation, this is what happened, do what you

1520
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:02.439
gotta do. See, but we always have to get involved.

1521
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.960
I think that that argument doesn't hold water because they

1522
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.239
are they It's not just their war, right, and it's

1523
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:15.600
not just because the same people that they're fighting chant

1524
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.399
death to America and death to Israel. It's more of

1525
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:26.239
our interests are their interests. So I would say that

1526
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.840
when a lot of people are looking at it like

1527
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.319
there are ally they're a little bro and they're friends,

1528
01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:37.159
so we gotta go fight because of them. And I

1529
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:39.039
don't think that that's the way to look at it.

1530
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:43.560
I think that when they fight somebody, we have an

1531
01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:48.159
opportunity to jump in for our own benefit. And that's

1532
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:50.520
the way I view it right where it's like, hey man,

1533
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:52.960
you're no fucking like, hey, Timmy over there is fucking

1534
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:54.960
up that dude that said he was gonna fuck your sister,

1535
01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:57.000
And it's like, oh, okay, I'm gonna go over there

1536
01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:59.439
and fuck him up too, because they also don't look

1537
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:00.760
because I all so don't like that.

1538
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:07.239
Here, here's your counter. Okay, I understand what you're saying,

1539
01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:09.319
because it's true. We do look out for our own interests.

1540
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:11.479
Israel is very strategic for us in terms of a

1541
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.039
military position within the area.

1542
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:13.680
Period.

1543
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:17.439
We have a presence with an ally that we don't

1544
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:19.319
have anywhere else in at least not to the level

1545
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:22.600
we got with Israel. Sure, but my argument is there

1546
01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:25.079
has been times where Israel's gone into conflicts with other

1547
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:29.880
nations that might upset the geopolitical relationships if we get involved,

1548
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.960
especially when we're talking about resources, you know, more than

1549
01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.520
more like oil, et cetera. So that I think that's

1550
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.399
my point. I'm not saying that you're wrong, because yes,

1551
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.039
we do have to protect our interest, but if our

1552
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.479
ally is putting us in a position that pretty much

1553
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:48.000
fucks up the relationships we have or that negotiations we

1554
01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:51.119
have with other countries, it kind of does get sticky.

1555
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:52.560
At some point you got to be like, hey, you

1556
01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:55.760
need to chill the fuck out. Look absolutely right.

1557
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.760
And this is the exact same argument I would make

1558
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.399
against Zelensky, right, where it's like it's like, look, man,

1559
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.039
frickin' I don't even consider you an ally, but everybody

1560
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:09.319
else does. So like, look, we're gonna get your back

1561
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:13.880
with poot, but when you start pulling some shit, we're

1562
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:18.119
gonna you're on your own. And so I think that's

1563
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:20.960
a very valid argument to apply to Israel, because you.

1564
01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:23.199
Don't you don't just blindly like again a right.

1565
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:25.359
So the analogy with Timmy is in a fight with

1566
01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:28.319
the guy that said he wants to fuck your sister, right, Yeah, okay,

1567
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.359
so we both want to fuck that guy up. But

1568
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:32.039
if Timmy just starts getting into a fight with some

1569
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.079
random dude at the bar who did nothing wrong. We're

1570
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:37.760
not backing up Timmy. So that's that's the analogy right

1571
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:41.039
where it's like, if Israel's interests align with our interests,

1572
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:43.800
then sure I want to get involved. If Israel's interests

1573
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.600
do not align with our interests, leave them the fuck

1574
01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:50.119
alone and let them do So there's the clarification. Yeah, absolutely,

1575
01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:51.760
absolutely understood.

1576
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.600
Let's let's get off this topic for a bit because

1577
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.520
we've been at it for a while. Sure, I agree.

1578
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.359
I want to get to some of your social media

1579
01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.479
stuff if you're okay with that. Yeah, all right. So

1580
01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:03.640
as you as you said earlier in the beginning, as

1581
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:06.119
you do call people out, you know, because you believe, hey,

1582
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:08.680
they're getting away with running their mouths but not really

1583
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:10.680
you know, backing up with any real facts or just

1584
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.720
you know, they're being bolstered by by their fans. You've

1585
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.680
also let's do this first, because you've said this on

1586
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:21.119
social media, can you please because I don't pay attention

1587
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:25.600
to it much to me, woke, right, you said a

1588
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:27.439
little bit in the beginning, but can you kind of

1589
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:29.479
define it better because I'm trying to understand it and

1590
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:30.920
there's a lot of other people that have opinions on

1591
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.520
what it actually means. Yeah.

1592
01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:34.520
See, look, so I was calling I was calling out

1593
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:36.199
the woke right, and I was calling them the woke

1594
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:40.920
right in like twenty twenty one, James Lindsay, Bless his heart.

1595
01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:44.600
I like James Lindsay. He's sort of become the figurehead

1596
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:47.520
and the spokesperson for this whole calling out the woke

1597
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:50.399
right movement. But he makes it a very intellectual argument

1598
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:55.760
and he tries to, in my opinion, complicated way too much,

1599
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:59.479
and people really get lost in the definition. Here's the definition.

1600
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:03.199
This is the dumbed down version right woke. The woke

1601
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:07.800
ideology right was started by the black community when they

1602
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.960
were saying that they they are they are being oppressed

1603
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.119
right by the white man, and now we are awake,

1604
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:15.760
we are woke. We you have your boot on our

1605
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.760
neck and we have woken up. Right, So that's where

1606
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.159
that comes from. So it is an oppressor oppressed victim

1607
01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:28.640
mentality that is responsible for movements like BLM, Antifa, et cetera. Okay,

1608
01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:34.119
that's woke. Now the left side of the argument where

1609
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:37.359
you say woke left right, So you have oppressor oppressed

1610
01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.560
and then you have what their ideology is how do

1611
01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.119
you fix it? How do you fix the the oppressor

1612
01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:48.399
oppressed relationship? Right? And it's it's i would say, like socialism, Marxism,

1613
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:51.840
you know, like whatever. Then you have the woke. Right now,

1614
01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:56.439
there is an oppressor oppressed, right, globalist Jews they have

1615
01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:01.399
the same like victim mentality, right, like there this this

1616
01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:03.800
people group is responsible for all of our problems.

1617
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:04.079
Right.

1618
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:07.840
A lot of conspiracy theorists, truthers, they think that they

1619
01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:11.479
think that there's these this grand conspiracy against them. But

1620
01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:14.840
how what is what is their solution to the problem? Right,

1621
01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:16.920
So on the left you have socialism. On the right

1622
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:21.079
you have nationalism and isolationism. So you have two sides

1623
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:24.359
at the same point. You have a victim mentality, oppressor, oppressed.

1624
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.399
We we are waking up? What are the what are

1625
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:28.600
the grapers call themselves?

1626
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:30.399
Noticers? Right? You know?

1627
01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:38.960
Notice notice wake woke, Notice say their synonyms so woke

1628
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:44.920
right essentially means an oppressed group of people that wants

1629
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:51.159
to fix the uh, the the dynamic by being isolationists

1630
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:56.600
or nationalists. Right, They basically have have decided we are

1631
01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:02.039
we are oppressed by in are here? Usually it's the

1632
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:06.680
Jews usually it's the globalist and the way to fix

1633
01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:14.640
this problem is nationalism, right, or or Christian nationalism freaking whatever.

1634
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:17.680
It's the same exact thing the left says. The left says,

1635
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:20.600
we need to get rid of capitalism, we need to

1636
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:26.279
redistribute wealth, we need to have reparations, et cetera, et cetera.

1637
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.359
They're so similar. The only difference is how they want

1638
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:34.640
to attack the person they think is responsible for all

1639
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:37.680
of their problems. So that's woke right in a nutshell.

1640
01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:39.079
It's the best way to describe it.

1641
01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:40.359
Now. Here's the thing.

1642
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.880
You can also just not call them woke right right,

1643
01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:45.760
because you can call them dissident right. You can call

1644
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.079
them reactionary right, you can call them far right, radical right,

1645
01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.279
you can call them any other thing that you want, right.

1646
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.279
But if you really are breaking down what they are about,

1647
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:58.960
woke right is the most accurate terminology because it hype it.

1648
01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:02.279
It defines the oppressor oppressed narrative.

1649
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:02.800
Right.

1650
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:09.479
There is some weird obsession with not being accountable for

1651
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.800
your own shit. Right, It's like, sure, are there bad people?

1652
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.640
Are there is there you know? Psyops going on? Is

1653
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:21.439
their conspiracies? Are there some Jews that are bad?

1654
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:21.880
People.

1655
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:27.159
Yeah, sure, right, but you don't fix the problem by

1656
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.600
essentially trying to impose radical ideologies on the rest of

1657
01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:32.039
the world.

1658
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.119
They're just two sides to the same coin.

1659
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.000
Really, then it's just radicalism, yeah, as a solution to

1660
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.880
a problem. That's what it really is. It's radicalism as

1661
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:44.520
a solution to a problem. Right, It's like the far

1662
01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:48.640
left are. And by the way, the horseshoe theory is

1663
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:52.560
just a lucky coincidence, right, the woke right and woke left.

1664
01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:57.039
Like I said, the definition is just oppress or oppressed.

1665
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:00.239
Here's how to fix it. Get radical and impose your use.

1666
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.279
Think about horseshoe theory though, right, First of all, you

1667
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:08.239
have the you have the uh both sides hate the Jews, right, right,

1668
01:29:09.319 --> 01:29:13.720
and and then you have Marxist ideologies right like, so

1669
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.960
you have on both sides, right, you have a desire

1670
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:21.000
to impose your ideology on the other. So what is

1671
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:22.600
the What does the left want to do? The left

1672
01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:25.359
wants to make abortion legal up until birth right, what

1673
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:26.720
is the right want to do? They want to get

1674
01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:29.359
rid of every abortion right they want They want you

1675
01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.079
to not be able to get one right.

1676
01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:32.560
They are extreme used.

1677
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:35.199
They are literally the far sides of both of both

1678
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:38.239
sides of this argument. And most people are in the middle.

1679
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.199
They are not the majority, they're not the base. They're

1680
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:45.239
not They're not there. And and the thing is, here's

1681
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:49.199
the difference between these sides. By the way, the right,

1682
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:53.039
as far as I can tell, is rejecting their woke

1683
01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:56.960
the left is electing them as the mayor of New

1684
01:29:57.039 --> 01:29:57.479
York City.

1685
01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.039
They're embracing it, They're running hard with it.

1686
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.560
So if you if you want to say, like, look,

1687
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:04.359
I don't want to. I'm not taking all the credit.

1688
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:06.439
I'm not taking most of the credit. I'm taking some

1689
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:09.279
credit though, because I've been blowing the whistle on this

1690
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.239
for for a while. I'm one of the biggest voices

1691
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:14.479
against it. And from what I can see in the

1692
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:18.319
online space, the top generals of the woke right seem

1693
01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.039
to keep having a fucking problem with me. They're the

1694
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:25.079
ones that keep on so judgement. So I say this

1695
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.439
all the time. I'm like, please, for the love of God,

1696
01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:30.159
if you do nothing else to judge me by my enemies.

1697
01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:32.520
Let's look at you. That's just good. Because I was

1698
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.840
always a big confused I'm like, how it's like, what

1699
01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:38.399
does it actually represent because there's always you know, like

1700
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.560
far right, extreme right, bull credit, like there's all these

1701
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:46.560
all these terms like whatever. Man, it's important.

1702
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:48.760
Not to complic It's important not to complicate it, you know.

1703
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.439
Like I'm in the debate I had against Andrew Wilson.

1704
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:53.439
He lost on substance. I mean, I'm sure that he

1705
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.920
took a victory lap, but he tried to call them reactionaries, right,

1706
01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:01.760
They're not really reaction right reactionaries have would have a

1707
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:07.119
complete justification for an actual problem. This is there is sure,

1708
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:11.279
like I said, there there are globalists, I guess you know,

1709
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:13.640
there are New World Order people.

1710
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:16.479
But to to.

1711
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:19.680
To state that they're to state that two percent of

1712
01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:23.359
the no zo point two percent of the global population

1713
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.800
is responsible for all of your problems. Nick funt Does

1714
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.319
was on Info Wars and Alex Jones asked him if

1715
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.720
you were to take every Jew and just send them

1716
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:33.880
to the moon, do you think all your problems would

1717
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:35.640
go away? And that motherfucker said yes.

1718
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.680
Okay, that guy's a fucking idiot. Man. I'm just say

1719
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:41.680
and I can care less people feel that.

1720
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:45.039
Look, but think about think about a reactionary is reacting

1721
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.720
to a real issue, right, somebody like that Nick Funt does.

1722
01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:50.479
And then you've got Candae, you know, with her views,

1723
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:52.880
you know, she's kind of going down that path while

1724
01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:54.359
she isn't kind of she is going down that path.

1725
01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.800
She's she's lost, she's definitely.

1726
01:31:57.840 --> 01:31:59.399
And then you got you got people like you got

1727
01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:02.279
people like Tuck car Carlson, MGT Russell Brand. You got

1728
01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:04.640
all these people that are flirting with it. And when

1729
01:32:04.680 --> 01:32:07.560
they start flirting with it, right, you see them flirting

1730
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:10.039
with it just a little bit, right, they creep out,

1731
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:12.760
they creep out a little bit and they go, actually,

1732
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:15.000
you know, you really do have a valid argument about

1733
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.039
the money that we send to Israel. And then then

1734
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:18.960
it gets a little bit more and a little bit more,

1735
01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:21.039
and then they start getting a little bit more conspiratorial,

1736
01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:23.199
and then it's like you can just see the progression

1737
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:28.960
and then all of a sudden boom then and it's like,

1738
01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.800
I'm telling you, Charlie Kirk said it really well, right,

1739
01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.640
anti Semitism is brain rot, right, it really is. It's

1740
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:41.239
like this, And then like they're like, I'm not antisemitic.

1741
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:41.159
Yes you are.

1742
01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:46.359
Let's just say let's say anti zionism. Then anti Zionism

1743
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.119
is brain rot because I can. I can say this

1744
01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:52.720
a thousand times, and I'm sorry to keep repeating myself,

1745
01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:55.680
but repetition is how you get through to dumb people.

1746
01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:58.359
I'm not talking to you, talking to maybe somebody who's watching.

1747
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:04.840
Two zero point two fucking percent of the global population

1748
01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:11.279
is not responsible for your fucking problems. It's a retarded statement.

1749
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.399
I agree, that was that's like, that is the dumbest

1750
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.359
thing I have ever heard a book. But they're disproportionate

1751
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:20.479
in the in the tech industry. Yeah, yeah, I know,

1752
01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:23.079
all right, So what the twenty five percent of billionaires

1753
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:25.760
are Jewish? Okay, they're good with money, Chinese people are

1754
01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:29.800
good with math, Black people are good at basketball. Who cares.

1755
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:33.880
It's a it's a stereotype. It's not a conspiracy. It's

1756
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:36.479
a stereotype. Yeah, And there's a reason for it. And

1757
01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:39.399
the reason is because after some dickhead in a funny

1758
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:43.239
mustache tried to exterminate them when they got expelled to America,

1759
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:47.199
they started getting into industries at the perfect time before

1760
01:33:47.199 --> 01:33:49.479
they blew up. They got into the tech industry, they

1761
01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:52.039
got into the Hollywood industry, the film industry, and because

1762
01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:54.760
of their religion and their faith and how their family oriented.

1763
01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:58.079
They created generational wealth and handed it down to their children.

1764
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.079
And because they didn't trust anybody because again somebody tried

1765
01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:04.239
to fucking exterminate them, they kept it very tight knit

1766
01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:07.680
and they don't allow other people in. They are an

1767
01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:11.000
exclusionary religion now because of how many people that have

1768
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:12.239
tried to fucking rite.

1769
01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:15.159
But there's there's many cultures who do that. Like I

1770
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.439
can just talk about people from India because I've done

1771
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.560
a lot of business with them in the entertainment industry

1772
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.399
for example, you know, and there's a lot of that

1773
01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.399
going on, you know, as far as concerts with the

1774
01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:26.439
artists coming in and they're doing these big arena shows

1775
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:30.119
and I've got to know them. And their families will

1776
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:31.560
do this like you see them by a gas station

1777
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:34.520
or a hotel. Well, that individual gets that funny, But

1778
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:37.439
guess what the entire family does. The entire family works it,

1779
01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:40.239
They build up that and then they buy another as

1780
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:40.760
a family.

1781
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:43.680
We don't do that. What about Greeks. Greeks do the

1782
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:44.039
same time.

1783
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.119
You're right, I'm just saying, you know, other cultures do

1784
01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:50.000
do that. So let's let's move off of Let's let's

1785
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:52.359
move off of the woke, right, because well, defined, thank you,

1786
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:54.119
but what do you think of what's going on? Because

1787
01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:57.319
you do identify as maga? What's up with all this infighting?

1788
01:34:57.640 --> 01:34:57.880
You know?

1789
01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:01.000
And then let's also talk about people like Laura Lumer

1790
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:03.720
for example. And I know you've had some os on her.

1791
01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:06.720
You know, I'm just giving a let you go because

1792
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:07.279
I you know.

1793
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:10.239
So so I'm so back. I'm so back and forth

1794
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:11.880
with I hate this. This is why I hate Laura.

1795
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:13.399
I hate Laura because I like Laura.

1796
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:16.039
Right. I hate her because I like her. Every once

1797
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:18.720
in a while, I'll be like scrolling and I'm like.

1798
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.920
Fuck right, It's like I almost hate that she gets

1799
01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:26.039
it right, Because here's the thing again, right, I am

1800
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:29.359
completely objective when it comes to calling people up. I

1801
01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:32.840
don't really if like, if if my best friend said

1802
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:35.640
something stupid, I would comment under it.

1803
01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:36.079
Right.

1804
01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:38.279
So I don't have I don't have this thing that

1805
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:42.239
other people have where it's like uh tribalism, where you're like,

1806
01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:46.159
oh my, this person that follows these people that follow

1807
01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:49.760
me said something stupid. I don't want to say anything

1808
01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:51.279
because I don't want my friends to get mad at

1809
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:54.199
me for calling out their friends, right, so with Laura Lumer,

1810
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:55.760
I called her out for the things that she did

1811
01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:58.119
wrong right. What she did was she said that Joe

1812
01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:01.039
Biden was going into hospice, Jimmy Carter was dead. She

1813
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:06.000
doxes people that are, you know, anti Trump. She starts,

1814
01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:08.760
she goes in. She calls it investigative journalism. Every time

1815
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:10.640
somebody comes against Trump, she tries to find out what

1816
01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:12.960
their fucking family does for a living, and then she

1817
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:17.399
floods their inbox. It's canceled culture. I don't like it.

1818
01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:17.760
It is.

1819
01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:20.640
I do not like cancel culture. I don't like it

1820
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:24.119
when anyone fucking does it. I was canceled by the

1821
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.520
woke left. I've been canceled by the woke right. It

1822
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:28.600
is not something you guys want to go through.

1823
01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:29.279
I have had.

1824
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:32.159
I have a stack of police reports from all the

1825
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:34.239
credible death threats I've gotten. People have showed up to

1826
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:36.319
my house. I've been had the cops called to me twice.

1827
01:36:36.359 --> 01:36:37.920
They've tried to get me kicked out of this apartment.

1828
01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:41.119
They've called the They've done some crazy shit to me.

1829
01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:42.960
They put me on the next door app as a pedophile.

1830
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:47.279
When you put somebody's information on the Internet and you

1831
01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:54.279
put it out there with with a negative inflection. Right,

1832
01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:56.359
bad person, here's their name.

1833
01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.920
Well, that's what you're trying to intentionally cause harm, not

1834
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.039
just to them, their entire family relationships.

1835
01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:04.279
And I don't give a ship what you think about

1836
01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:07.640
Laura Luman. She fucking does that and she needs to stop.

1837
01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:08.199
She does.

1838
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.760
However, like I said, this is why I hate my

1839
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:15.520
light right because she does good stuff. She puts out

1840
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.920
good information sometimes well she gets some things right, And.

1841
01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:22.039
I'm going to equate that to like Alex Jones, you're

1842
01:37:22.039 --> 01:37:24.960
throwing off ship the wall. Something's gonna stick exactly. Listen.

1843
01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:26.840
I just just did that.

1844
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:28.640
I just did this with Sean.

1845
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:32.520
On my podcast with Seawn. I was when in that

1846
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.199
debate with Owen Schroyer, He's like, how did Alice Jones

1847
01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:37.680
predict nine to eleven? And I'm like, I don't fucking know.

1848
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.199
And he is like, he's like it's a script.

1849
01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:42.199
I'm like, yeah, or he said terrorists are gonna do

1850
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:45.159
terrorist shit because you know, the World Trade Centers were attacked.

1851
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:46.439
I thought it was a plane, by the way, but

1852
01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:47.199
it was a bomb.

1853
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.880
He's like they were attacked in ninety three, yes, and

1854
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.319
Alex and then oh, some of the law. And everybody

1855
01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:56.319
knew who he was. They knew that they wanted to attack.

1856
01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:59.399
So Alex Jones said, they're going to attack the World

1857
01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:01.880
Trade Centers and Osama Bilad's going to do it. But

1858
01:38:01.960 --> 01:38:08.119
then here's what he did to frame the narrative. He

1859
01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:09.600
said the CIA did it.

1860
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:12.760
Yeah, but no, you.

1861
01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:16.199
See, so he didn't necessarily technically get that whole thing right,

1862
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.319
but they believe that because he got a portion of

1863
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:24.359
it provably right, which is they flew planes into the

1864
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.279
World Trade Centers. True, but you know, then they believe

1865
01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:30.000
the whole thing, though they believe it blindly because if

1866
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.720
you get if you get most of something right, but

1867
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:35.800
then you add in a caveat and you can't prove

1868
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:39.119
that second part right, people believe the whole thing. So

1869
01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:45.239
what he does is actually dangerous because he creates these paranoid,

1870
01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:51.279
you know, delusional people who think that there's some person

1871
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:53.319
in a black hat that's gonna like shoot him in

1872
01:38:53.319 --> 01:38:54.560
the head when they walk out of their house.

1873
01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:56.640
How much, but how much, how much of what he

1874
01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:00.920
gets right is due to whatever source he has where

1875
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.840
he gets this information. Because like you and I had

1876
01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:07.800
discussed earlier, and I found out later, you know, through

1877
01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:10.399
some of my contacts. Is like, there was chatter going

1878
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:12.479
around and the intelligent community that this was going to happen.

1879
01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:14.439
How do we know? He just didn't get that lead

1880
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.079
or didn't get that That's exactly That's exactly what happened.

1881
01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:20.000
Right. But like I said, my brother called my mom

1882
01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:23.159
the night before, so there they knew, Like the government

1883
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:26.039
knew and the government you know. This is the other

1884
01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:29.359
thing about these people there some people act like the

1885
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.079
government is supposed to tell you when something bad is

1886
01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:37.439
going to happen. No, that would create maccessaria, right, It's

1887
01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:39.640
like no, like they did this with Trump. Trump was

1888
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:41.920
like there was supposedly a threat and attack and the

1889
01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:43.640
media was like, why didn't you tell us? He's like,

1890
01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:46.840
you guys would have lost your ship and he was honest.

1891
01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:47.399
True.

1892
01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:50.359
No other president has ever come out and said, yeah,

1893
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:51.960
I held that from you because I didn't want you

1894
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:56.840
to freak out. So again, like, yeah, Alex probably has

1895
01:39:57.279 --> 01:39:59.399
some good context. This is exactly what Laura Lumer does.

1896
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:02.119
Laura Lumer does not do journalism. Laura Lumer has a

1897
01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:05.800
group of simps that do journalism and they send it

1898
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:08.199
to her inbox and then she just reads it and

1899
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:11.319
then drops it on her platform, right, And I'm sure

1900
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:13.479
that she does her ruin research a little bit, But

1901
01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:16.239
for the most part, I think what Alex Jones has

1902
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.039
is he has the same thing. He has a network. Right.

1903
01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:22.760
When you have a network, when you're a social media influencer,

1904
01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:27.840
are you really doing journalism or are you the anchor

1905
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:31.600
that's reporting the story that your journalists gave to you.

1906
01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.199
Well that's okay, And that's been my argument against guys

1907
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:37.880
like you know, Chris Cuomo, people from that era. They're

1908
01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:40.199
just talking heads. They're reading off a fucking teleprompt for them,

1909
01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:42.079
and journalists in years, well.

1910
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:44.159
Look at look at what Alex Jones's show is, right,

1911
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:45.560
So look this is I'm gonna do.

1912
01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:46.479
Actually, let me do this.

1913
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.279
I'm gonna do Alex Jones, Alex Jones the show Info Wars.

1914
01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:52.239
That's what he does. This is what he does. Give

1915
01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:56.439
you the camera shot here, Yeah, I got a tweet here,

1916
01:40:57.359 --> 01:40:58.880
this is what this tweet says.

1917
01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:01.600
I got a tweet here, And what this tweet says?

1918
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:04.640
He had a tweet here. It's like that's all he's doing.

1919
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:09.000
He's literally he's an anchor, He's a news anchor. That's

1920
01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:13.199
he's not a he's not a fucking like and he's

1921
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.880
not a mentalist, right, he didn't like Look at I

1922
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:17.640
think that I have.

1923
01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:19.680
I think he's probably good at connecting the dots, you

1924
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:20.079
know what I mean.

1925
01:41:20.119 --> 01:41:22.000
I think, yeah, that's what I was about to say.

1926
01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:24.359
I think that I'm really good at that too. I

1927
01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:28.800
think that I have a lot of critical thinking skills.

1928
01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:31.840
I'm able to, you know, see things that may or

1929
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:33.640
may or may not be happening. I mean, I basically

1930
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:36.680
predicted that the Zohan guy was going to win the

1931
01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:39.199
New York City election hours before it happened. I'm like,

1932
01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:43.199
maybe he's gonna win because I mean, honestly, I think

1933
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:47.359
that New York might be better off for it. I

1934
01:41:47.399 --> 01:41:47.960
think that it's.

1935
01:41:50.039 --> 01:41:51.800
Hold on, Look, let me explain this.

1936
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:57.000
Sure, there is also a very real possibility that it

1937
01:41:57.159 --> 01:42:02.119
starts the downfall of America. But it's one or the other. Right,

1938
01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:04.199
So there's this is either this is either going to

1939
01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:07.279
be responsible for the next walk away movement where it

1940
01:42:07.359 --> 01:42:11.439
creates a mass exodus from the Democrat Party because they're

1941
01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:15.000
going to watch the biggest city in America fall leave

1942
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.199
and never come back. Right, and if they and if

1943
01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:22.640
by the twenty twenty six mid terms you have enough

1944
01:42:22.680 --> 01:42:24.840
people who are reaching out to all their Democrat buddies

1945
01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:26.960
and be like, we're going too far, it could create

1946
01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:29.479
a red wave in the twenty twenty six mid terms.

1947
01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:33.199
And then if they implement their socialist ideologies and policies

1948
01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:37.840
in that state, new York's fucked, but the rest of

1949
01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.840
the country. Hopefully, this is why I said it's a

1950
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:45.760
high risk, high reward. Hopefully we view it as a

1951
01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:52.800
learning moment instead of embracing it. So what what did

1952
01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:57.479
it take for Rudy Giuliani to come in and fix

1953
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:01.760
New York in the first place? Right? It took the

1954
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:05.399
corruption crime unchecked it. New York was a shithole. Then

1955
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:07.359
he came in and fixed it. What did it take

1956
01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.319
for Reagan to come in and fucking you know, fix America?

1957
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:14.479
America was falling, falling apart. What did it take for

1958
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:17.680
Trump to come in? America was in like good time?

1959
01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:19.880
It's really that whole, you know. Joe Rogan made the

1960
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:23.840
quote like or repeated the quote, but it's an old quote.

1961
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:28.399
Weak men create hard times, yeah, right, so week men

1962
01:43:28.439 --> 01:43:31.800
create hard times. Right now, you are a weak man

1963
01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:34.159
who is about to take over the biggest city in

1964
01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:40.079
the country. So I think that hard times hopefully will

1965
01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:45.720
create strong men, and strong men will hopefully create good times.

1966
01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:48.560
I would I would hate. I would hate for you

1967
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:51.399
to be correct, I don't know. You're probably are on

1968
01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:54.800
this and that he does get elected and this does

1969
01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:57.159
have to turn out to be a learning moment for

1970
01:43:57.199 --> 01:43:59.680
the rest of the country. But hopefully if that is

1971
01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:02.000
the say situation, that the rest of country wakes up

1972
01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:04.640
and puts a stop to this bullshit and realize we

1973
01:44:04.680 --> 01:44:07.079
do have to preserve who we are in our culture period.

1974
01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:11.079
We can't let this you know, slow dripping infiltration happen

1975
01:44:11.079 --> 01:44:12.720
and allow our country be taken from us.

1976
01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:14.800
Yeah, if it goes the other way though, we're fucked.

1977
01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:18.000
Like you got to think about what happened about six

1978
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:20.760
months ago. We almost put Kamala Harris into oh I know,

1979
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.439
and if that happened right, the hard times would have

1980
01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:28.680
been every state, not just one.

1981
01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:29.359
True.

1982
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:34.239
So I don't know, man, I really, I look, I

1983
01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:38.880
love this country more than I hate the opposing party.

1984
01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:42.159
So I would like it if he does not become

1985
01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:44.399
the mayor, right because I do not want to see

1986
01:44:44.479 --> 01:44:47.560
New York City fall I don't want to see that happen.

1987
01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:49.520
So I'm not rooting for this.

1988
01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:53.159
I'm just reading Tea Leaves right, So I don't want

1989
01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:57.039
him to become mayor. But based off of everything I'm seeing,

1990
01:44:57.039 --> 01:44:58.920
there's so many people that are like, they're like, oh,

1991
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:02.119
but what if the what if Cuomo splits the vote

1992
01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:07.199
and the Republic. No, I's he's probably going to be

1993
01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:08.920
the mayor. Well, that's part of our that's part of

1994
01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:12.199
our problem America right now. It's aways politics before people. Yeah,

1995
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:15.039
you know, it's it's fucking bullshit. I wish, I wish

1996
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:18.479
I would go away. But really, well, I mean that's

1997
01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:20.880
that's human beings man. It's a tribalistic nature.

1998
01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:21.399
Absolutely.

1999
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:23.760
And you know, the two party system. I was saying

2000
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:25.600
this to somebody else recently. They're like, the two party

2001
01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:28.520
system needs to be your vote. No, it doesn't. No, No,

2002
01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.079
the two party system works absolutely perfectly when you take

2003
01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:35.119
corruption out of it, right, the party, the two party system,

2004
01:45:35.159 --> 01:45:37.000
the system that we have in place is a near

2005
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:41.119
perfect system. It's just been abused, right. The system itself

2006
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.840
is not the problem. It's the people that are abusing it. Right,

2007
01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:48.520
So take money out of politics and and get back

2008
01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:53.000
to UH for the people, by the people. Adding adding

2009
01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:57.239
more parties isn't going to fix anything. Changing the whole

2010
01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:00.439
system isn't going to fix anything. You find out where

2011
01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:05.399
the what what is broken? Right, Well, it's broken is

2012
01:46:06.039 --> 01:46:08.199
we have public servants that make more than the people

2013
01:46:08.199 --> 01:46:11.880
they serve. We have public servants that are incentivized to

2014
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.399
be corrupt. We have foreign lobbies in our country, we

2015
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:19.680
have domestic lobbies in our in our system. So I've

2016
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:22.359
said this to so many people. I just I just

2017
01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:26.319
did an interview with the guy who's running John Goodman,

2018
01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:29.239
who's running for Senate in Illinois, and I told him,

2019
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:30.600
I go, when you get in there, this is what

2020
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:31.319
I want you to do.

2021
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:32.560
I want you to propose this.

2022
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:37.079
Right, you get no secondary income in Congress, none, not

2023
01:46:37.279 --> 01:46:39.239
one fucking dollar above your salary.

2024
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:40.800
I don't care what you set your salary at.

2025
01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:42.560
Set it at five hundred thousand if you want, but

2026
01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:45.319
you don't get a dollar over it. Right. No book deals,

2027
01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:49.359
no speaking events, no stock trading, no nothing, no moonlighting.

2028
01:46:49.680 --> 01:46:52.520
That's what you get, right And if you and if

2029
01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:55.199
you do that, there is no incentive. I mean sure,

2030
01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:57.479
you know there are some people who are going to

2031
01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:01.239
be like, yeah, I'd like to make three hundred thousand

2032
01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.079
dollars a year for the rest of my life. But

2033
01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:06.520
the majority of people that go into Congress, they go

2034
01:47:06.600 --> 01:47:09.640
in there because of the incentives.

2035
01:47:09.800 --> 01:47:12.039
The incentives and the connections, the power everything comes with.

2036
01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:16.399
Yeah, exactly. So take that out of politics. And the

2037
01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:20.000
other thing is get rid of fucking packs.

2038
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:24.359
Yeah, all of them, all of them.

2039
01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:27.560
You should only be able to raise money based off

2040
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:32.119
of the people of this country every and raise raise

2041
01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:35.000
the minimum amount to five thousand instead of thirty five hundred,

2042
01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:36.079
and that's all you get.

2043
01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:39.000
And there should not There should not be one person

2044
01:47:39.079 --> 01:47:44.279
in Congress that is able to do any stock trading. Yeah, no,

2045
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:44.840
that's what I mean.

2046
01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:50.479
And then third, the third thing is the third thing

2047
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:52.000
is there should be a There should be a cap.

2048
01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:54.680
There should be a campaign cap, right, and I don't

2049
01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:57.880
know what the number needs to be, but one candidate

2050
01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:02.279
shouldn't be able to have can one hundred million dollars?

2051
01:48:02.359 --> 01:48:06.119
No for tv ads. Look when your salary is about

2052
01:48:06.119 --> 01:48:08.119
one hundred and seventy five thousand, and I forgot what

2053
01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:09.840
the actual number is, but one hundred seventy five thousand

2054
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.600
here or they were less as a congress person. You

2055
01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:15.720
don't come out the end other end a multimillionaire. And

2056
01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.319
you definitely don't become a multimillionaire while you're serving in

2057
01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:20.399
Congress with a salary of one hundred and seventy five

2058
01:48:20.439 --> 01:48:21.000
thousand or so.

2059
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:22.079
Exactly.

2060
01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:23.760
I can't explain that away.

2061
01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:26.359
If you take Look, here's the deal. If you take

2062
01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:31.279
away the monetary incentive to be in congress, right where

2063
01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:34.800
you go in, you go in a bartender and you

2064
01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:35.720
come out a millionaire.

2065
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:37.359
Oh right, that back of rocks.

2066
01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:40.600
Yeah, if you take if you take that away, right,

2067
01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:42.720
you're only going to have two kinds of people that

2068
01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:43.920
want to go into Congress.

2069
01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:44.159
Right.

2070
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:46.000
You're going to have people that really want to go

2071
01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:48.000
in there to do the job, patriots, right, You're going

2072
01:48:48.039 --> 01:48:50.159
to have veterans. You're going to have people that are like,

2073
01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:52.720
I just want to go do the job because I care, right,

2074
01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:55.600
public servants. And then you're going to have rich people

2075
01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:58.720
who don't need to do it. No, they don't need

2076
01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:02.600
that Trump they're going to policy, but they again, they

2077
01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:04.439
also want to go in there and do it for

2078
01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:07.239
the right reasons. So the second one, you could have

2079
01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:10.479
some people who are like bad intent.

2080
01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:12.520
Right, oh you will. You're still gonna be that one.

2081
01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.159
But I think it's going to be way less than

2082
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.960
all of the people that come in there with with

2083
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:22.680
an idea of changing for the better well and then

2084
01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:23.800
get and then get corrupt.

2085
01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:26.159
Maybe we should go back to removing the salary and

2086
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:29.159
just giving them a stipend. Sure, if you want to serve,

2087
01:49:29.279 --> 01:49:30.880
this is what it is. You want to serve your nation,

2088
01:49:31.159 --> 01:49:33.159
and you want to influence the nation from that position,

2089
01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:35.640
then here's your five thousand dollar year stipend or whatever

2090
01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:35.880
it is.

2091
01:49:36.039 --> 01:49:38.239
Now, if I had it, if I had my way,

2092
01:49:38.359 --> 01:49:41.079
you'd make the you'd make the median income of your district.

2093
01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:42.479
And the only way you get a raise is if

2094
01:49:42.479 --> 01:49:42.960
your people do.

2095
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:44.399
There you go.

2096
01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:48.479
So if if you raise, you raise, the rising tide

2097
01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.760
raises all ships. Theory, Yeah, would be would be my

2098
01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:55.319
approach to Congress. But but look, man, Unfortunately, in order

2099
01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.399
for that to happen, you'd need the people who make

2100
01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:02.520
the laws to to give themselves a fucking pay cut. Uh,

2101
01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:03.840
And I don't see it happening.

2102
01:50:04.279 --> 01:50:06.720
So no, I mean, come on, they vote in lifetime

2103
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:10.319
medical Uh, you can serve like one year or so,

2104
01:50:10.359 --> 01:50:11.920
and all of a sudden you're locked in for a

2105
01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:12.960
lifetime retirement.

2106
01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.520
Or here's here's what we might be able to do

2107
01:50:15.720 --> 01:50:18.720
right now that that perfect system that I just described

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01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.279
of taking money out of politics, because the system itself

2109
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isn't broken, the people are.

2110
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Yeah, it always starts with people. Man, you can't take

2111
01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:29.119
out greed and and we need for power.

2112
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What we might be able to accomplish with good leadership,

2113
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.720
like hopefully Donald Trump will start pushing this messaging and

2114
01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:38.920
if enough people really push this, what we might be

2115
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able to do is no secondary income sorry, no stock

2116
01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:45.239
trading and term limits. If you do no stock trading

2117
01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:48.119
and term limits, that's a huge dent out of it.

2118
01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:49.439
Well, it is huge.

2119
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:53.720
And ago, yeah, I mean it's the fucking president. Why

2120
01:50:53.800 --> 01:50:55.600
do Why does the president have term limits?

2121
01:50:55.640 --> 01:50:55.800
Oh?

2122
01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:59.279
So he doesn't, he doesn't get corrupted, right, fucking apply

2123
01:50:59.359 --> 01:50:59.960
that to everybody.

2124
01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:04.399
Come on, man, Look when you're in Congress in your

2125
01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:07.199
thirties and here you are in your eighties, still trying

2126
01:51:07.199 --> 01:51:10.640
to walk around, well, get I mean, I have a

2127
01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.439
point to do. Their peers say, look, it's time for

2128
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:15.920
you to retire. So I have another I have another.

2129
01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:19.319
I have another suggestion too, And I thought of this

2130
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:21.760
I thought of this a while back, and I think

2131
01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:22.800
it's a really good system.

2132
01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:24.359
I think that you should have.

2133
01:51:25.720 --> 01:51:29.640
Term limits or sorry, you should have a like a

2134
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.000
promotional system, right, so you should literally so you should

2135
01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.199
be able to be like a representative for like six years, right,

2136
01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:40.640
So a representative for six years, a House member for

2137
01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:43.840
four years, right, so that's ten. Then you should be

2138
01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:47.760
able to go into the Senate for two terms. So

2139
01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:51.680
what would that be twelve? Yeah, yeah, twelve, Okay, so

2140
01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:54.359
you got six four twelve, that's twenty two years.

2141
01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:54.880
Okay.

2142
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:59.119
Then you can be vice president right from four to

2143
01:51:59.199 --> 01:52:01.880
eight years, and you can be president for four to

2144
01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:06.000
eight years. And so that means, right, you have twenty

2145
01:52:06.039 --> 01:52:11.840
two in Congress, eight in vice presidency, thirty years and

2146
01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:17.600
eight maximum in a presidency. The most amount of time

2147
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.359
that you can be in politics if you win every

2148
01:52:20.399 --> 01:52:24.000
single election is thirty eight years. That's about how long

2149
01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:27.960
people work in a career before they retire.

2150
01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:31.720
Anyway, I like that idea. The only thing is it

2151
01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:36.720
does it does remove the option for the average person

2152
01:52:36.960 --> 01:52:39.960
who never was able to get into that to be

2153
01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:41.720
able to run for president for example.

2154
01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:44.159
No, no, no, what I'm saying is you start like.

2155
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:47.640
It should literally be a like. It should work just

2156
01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:51.439
like any other career. I understand what you're saying, where.

2157
01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:53.319
You would literally work yourself up to the ranks. Start

2158
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.239
as you start as a rent, you get enough experience,

2159
01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:58.439
then you're eligible for X and your local politics.

2160
01:52:58.439 --> 01:53:00.840
You can do whatever you want local politics, the politics

2161
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:04.399
no rules. I'm talking about Washington. In Washington, right, you

2162
01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:05.840
can be you can start off as a rep. You

2163
01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:07.319
can start off as a then you can move up

2164
01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:08.760
to a House member. You can move from a House

2165
01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:10.039
to the Senate. You can move from the Senate to

2166
01:53:10.079 --> 01:53:12.199
the vice presidency, you can move or just straight to

2167
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:15.720
the presidency. But I'm saying the maximum under this system

2168
01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.039
the most you could ever work.

2169
01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:21.439
So you're saying, if you want to enter politics and

2170
01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:24.199
make that career, then your max service should be around

2171
01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:24.960
thirty eight years.

2172
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:27.399
So just like every other job, you start in the

2173
01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:30.199
mail room and then you get promoted to this and

2174
01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:30.800
then you get.

2175
01:53:31.279 --> 01:53:33.159
I get it, But but you're you're not advocating for

2176
01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:36.439
like let's say me or you running for president of

2177
01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:38.920
the United States. It's just those career politicians should have

2178
01:53:38.920 --> 01:53:40.239
a shelf life regardless.

2179
01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:42.800
That's what I'm saying, so with the term with the

2180
01:53:42.880 --> 01:53:45.600
term limits, right, I think that it should be like

2181
01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:49.159
in like almost like a promotional role, right where it's

2182
01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:51.760
like okay, so like that makes a lot of sense.

2183
01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:54.319
You're like, okay, if you you you've already done it,

2184
01:53:54.399 --> 01:53:57.159
You've already done your your six years. You have to

2185
01:53:57.159 --> 01:54:00.000
go to this position, right or you have to leave

2186
01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:02.119
or you have to leave office right right, So you

2187
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:05.560
have to you have to either jump up to this position,

2188
01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:07.920
which is the only one available to you, or you're gone.

2189
01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:10.119
And that way, it's not just a term limit, it's

2190
01:54:10.119 --> 01:54:12.640
a congressional limit where it's like it's not even just terms.

2191
01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:13.880
It's like you're fucking done.

2192
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:16.720
You're done. You did this. Yeah, you did your service,

2193
01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:20.880
Thank you, Time to move on exactly. Awesome, all right, brother,

2194
01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:24.640
we covered a lot of grown Yeah that was great. Man.

2195
01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:27.800
Like I said, I I've been trying to get on

2196
01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:30.840
these Uh I've been dealing with personal stuff and I

2197
01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:32.560
just got my show back this week, so I'm trying

2198
01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:33.319
to do these interviews.

2199
01:54:33.319 --> 01:54:35.439
So I appreciate you bringing me on. Hey, no no worries.

2200
01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:37.199
There's gonna be a lot a lot coming from this.

2201
01:54:37.279 --> 01:54:39.800
But anyway, I bottom line thanks for coming on, Man,

2202
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:41.840
appreciate I think you and I are going to keep talking.

2203
01:54:42.079 --> 01:54:44.600
I feel like we agree in a lot, but sure,

2204
01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:47.520
definitely Man, And again, thank.

2205
01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:51.760
You feel.

2206
01:54:52.960 --> 01:55:05.960
Vildemption. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

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01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:11.119
doo doo doo doo doo do
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