Aug. 15, 2025

Ryan McBeth - Intelligence Analyst, Novelist, Content Creator

Ryan and I discuss current events as we tackle the tensions in the Middle East, influencers, Revisionist History, Ukraine, and China's ultimate goal. This a great conversation for anybody wanting an update on the current geopolitical tensions and what to expect next.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:10 - Iranian Sleeper Cells - Should We be Concerned?
00:05:18 - Get on with Our Lives or Terrorists Win
00:06:38 - Israel / Gaza - Has Israel Gone to Far?
00:10:06 - Is Israel Really Stopping Aid into Gaza?
00:11:42 - Internal Palestinian Tribal Conflicts
00:14:53 - Afghanistan
00:17:11 - Should the U.S. stay out of the Middle East?
00:20:17 - The anti-America Narrative
00:25:26 - Middle Eastern Conflict - A Vicious Cycle
00:29:40 - Iran - Use of Terrorist Proxies due to Weak Military
00:35:23 - Iranian Lack of Air Dominance - Signs of Military Inferiority
00:38:05 - Russia and China leave Iran to stand on It's Own
00:39:18 - Should the USA let Israel stand on thier Own?
00:42:49 - Israel - A Strategic Ally for the U.S.
00:45:22 - Understanding the "America Bad" Narrative - Ryan's Theory
00:49:13 - My Theory - Generational Gap and Revisionist History
00:51:50 - Remembering 9/11 - Today's Perceptions vs Yesterday's Reality
00:53:41 - What's next in the Middle East - Israel vs Iran
00:55:49 - Did We Narrowly Avoid WW3 - The Threat of Nuclear Weapons
01:01:21 - Israel Bombing Hospitals - Truth or Propaganda
01:05:08 - Media and Influencers - Embellishing the Story
01:06:41 - Short Attention Culture
01:10:16 - Trump's Support for Ukraine - Sending a Message to Adversaries
01:12:48 - Munitions and Money - Is it enough for Ukraine?
01:15:26 - Will Putin Back Off - Russia on the verge of Collapse
01:17:36 - Russia can't Stop - The War Time Economy
01:21:19 - Will Russia turn on Putin?

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All right, Ryan macbeth, thank you for being back on

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the show. I feel this is a do over with

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you because the first time I try to do a

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video episode and I had technical difficulties, so I felt

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bad about that, although the audio episode did do pretty

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well by the way, But this time I'm glad to

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have you on video since I mean, your your audience

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based is YouTube and that's what you do. You specialize

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and you're making like very informative, awesome videos, and you

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do deep dives, and you have a way of explaining

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it in a way that people can just understand it

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without feeling like they have to go to school. You know.

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He basically removed that difficulty out and say, look, let

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me break it down easy for you to digest, and

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this is what's really going on. So I'm glad to

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have this again with you in video format. I just

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they need to see you, they really do to get

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the whole thing. So since we last talked, the first

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time we talked, were talking about was going on in Ukraine.

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I do want to get to that because there's new

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developments and I know you made a video recently about that,

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and then you also made another video about what was

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going on with Israel, what's going on in Gaza, and

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that whole issue as well. So let's start there, if

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you don't mind, Because you know, after the bombing, the

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US sent their B two bombers and whatnot, and we

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basically bomb nuclear facilities in Iran. I ran, surprisingly to me,

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by the way, to me, backed off and I didn't

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expect that they would, but they did. They did settle

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down a bit. A lot of people were really well

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I was. I know you were, because I know you

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mentioned it. But people are concerned that there might be

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sleeper cells here in the US that might be activated

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and retaliation to that. I want to start with that,

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with that first, and see what you think, you know,

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coming from your perspective, because I don't. I don't believe

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it's over. I really don't. I think that that is

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a reality that's extremely plausible. I believe that that is

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a thing that we will have to face. And I

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have done the data. I've done the dive Inpu off

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the border, and I know that this year alone, at

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least until May, there was about seven hundred and fifty

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two or somewhere around there. I don't have the exact

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but it was like seven fifty two in terms of

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terrorists that they knew about that they detained when I

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broke it down, was enough to put fifteen terrorists in

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every state of the United States of America. And that's

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not counting the ones they don't know about. So what

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do you think about that situation? So it would be concerned?

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Should the average American citizen be vigilant, be watching out

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for that or at least have an idea that, yeah,

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it could go bad.

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So well, that's a tough one because it feels like

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I'm in two thousand and two. Right, are we are

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we red? Are we yellow? Or we blue? Or we green?

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Is it a high alert day? Is it a low

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alert day? Right? That's a really good question. You know,

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I don't think the average American should be concerned in

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the sense that there's really not a lot you can

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do to prevent it. But in general, the security services

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of the US need to be concerned about it, mainly because,

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and I don't want to get into politics, but for

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about four years our borders were essentially wide open. We

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don't necessarily know who's here, and instead of you know,

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arresting people at home depot, maybe we should be kind

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of looking for bad guys. I think kind of the

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problem here is that arresting people at home depot is

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good for the president's base, and arresting bad guys is

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hard and takes time. Right, you don't have that immediate payoff,

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So it's kind of easy to see what someone might

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might choose to do, even though finding the bad guys

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could eventually stops for a teris incident. When it comes

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to Iran, I think I don't want to say they've

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learned their lesson, because they haven't learned their lesson. They're

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in a weird place right now. We can get into

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that when it comes to funding and how they're going

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to rebuild their military. But essentially, I would if I

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were part of the security services, I would be concerned

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about a terist start within the United States that might

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not activate now but could activate in the future. So

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the average person knows security services, yes.

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Right, I feel the same way. I just well, I'm

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agreeing with you, But there's also that side of me

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that is like, well, I'm a civilian, like, what's the

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possibility what might I have to go through if that

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did come to it? And interestingly enough, you know, we

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had the instant Colorado where you know, we had the

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extremists that burned a few Cherish people, right, and then

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they recently all so arrested a few Iranians that they

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I don't know the exact details, but they're said to

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be terrorists or non terroists that they deported. That was

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also just just happened recently. So yeah, it is a

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real thing. But I understand what you're saying. You know,

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that's that's for security forces to deal with, and they

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should be dealing with that. So in your opinion, maybe

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we should just you know, hey, be aware, but move on,

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live on, right.

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Yeah, I mean, God, again, it sounds like it's it's

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two thousand and two. If we don't just continue to

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live our lives, terrorists win, right, right. And I even

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remember when I want to say it was in god,

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November October of two thousand and one, President Bush said

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go buy something. Stop watching television and go to the

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store and buy something. And I remember only I was

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dating this for all the time, and I went and

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I bought her like a six hundred dollars eleven jacket.

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You know, I did my part for the economy, you know,

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because like our economy was actually suffering because people were

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hiding inside their homes watching the news.

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Right, they were, they were they they weren't outdoors.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There was a great South Park episode about that where

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the I think Randy is sitting on the couch and

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his eyes are just wide and how like, and uh yeah,

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I mean it's we have to live our lite. Ye,

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fair enough. If we live in fear, then the terrorists

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really do win.

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Yeah, hence terrorism, right yeah, okay, fair enough on that.

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What about what about your thoughts on what's going on

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in Gaza? I mean, it's we're getting really into what

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are getting close to two years or so or about

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two years correct, so we're run there? What what is

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what is your thoughts on on how that is being

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handled by Israel at the moment. And the reason I

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asked as we because the sentiment is a lot of

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people will agree that they had a right to do

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what they had to do. I mean, I saw your

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video where you said you didn't forget October seventh. I

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didn't either. Most people shouldn't have forgot about that, do

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you think in your in your opinion and this isn't

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this is just an opinion opinion spot, but do you

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think Israel is going a little too far or are

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they trying to deal with the situation where it's a

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matter of geography because it's not a very big place,

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not a very big place for you know, Hamas, for example,

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to spread out and hide. And I've seen that they're

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pretty much just using the people as shields and they're

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basically their captain. They can't necessarily leave either. But at

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the same time, do you believe Israel should probably try

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a different tactic. Are they going a bit too far

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at this point or are they just doing what they

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have to do.

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So one of the things that Israel has done is

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they've started to create a militious and these militias are

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made up of Palestinians who no longer want Hamas in charge,

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and they give them guns and they say, okay, get

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at it, because you know, these guys, they know where

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the hostages are. They no, they know where Hamas is located.

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So it's one of those things where it's like, all right,

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you know, this is kind of how we have to

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do this. And some of these these guys, they're honestly

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got criminal gangs, right, they're criminal gangs. But again, to

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kind of go back to the era of Donald Rumsfeld.

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You go to war if the army have not the

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army you want or you wish you had at a

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later date. So what choice do you have, right they

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you know, those are the allies that are willing to fight,

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So I guess we kind of have to stick with

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those allies. So they're doing that. They are getting aid in,

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which is good. I believe they control about sixty to

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sixty five percent of Gaza and they will ideally that

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the ceasefire is coming up. Supposedly there may be a

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ceasefire soon where most will return. I believe, Oh my,

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this is kind of put me on the on the spot.

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I believe there are forty remaining hostages and twenty two

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I think are still alive. Something like that. There's fifty

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hostages remaining and we know that twenty two are still alive.

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So you know, I believe the ceasefire gives ten hostages back.

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And I can't even imagine what condition the hostages are, right,

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I mean, it must be absolute hell on earth, right,

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because God knows where they're getting fed, right, Like, where

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are these people getting food to feed these hosages? So

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they must be at the point of starvation. Right, No,

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that's not.

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You're not in good shape whatsoever.

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Yeah, they can't be, but they can't.

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You dressed this a little bit. But what about what

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about what's going around mostly on social media or you know,

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we are the media now, right, social media? But what

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about what was being said of Israel willingly holding back supplies,

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right and aid and killing people who are trying to

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get aid? Because from the reports I've seen, and you

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know way more than I do. You have more access,

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but from the reports that I've seen, it's it's really

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not necessarily the case. It's Hamas intercepting a lot of

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these you know, a lot of this aid and then

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trying to redistribute or sell it back to their own people. Yeah,

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so how much of it is true that Israel is

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actually doing this versus it's just propaganda being spread by Hamas?

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That's uh, that's an excellent question. And uh, you know,

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I got to tell you that in some cases, if

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if Israelies are rushed by people and they feel threatened,

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they're going to open fires. Right, That's just kind of

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the way it is. If you feel threatened, then well

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you gotta do what you gotta do to stop the threat.

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That being said, you know, for the most part, Israel

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is getting aid in. It seems like it is mostly successful.

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I want to say it's about one hundred and fifty

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trucks per day roughly. But one of the issues is

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the security situation. That's why you want to work with

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these Palestinians. The criminal gangs who will hopefully take that

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food and distribute it. Now they're probably distributing it in

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a way that makes their gang more powerful. That one

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of the big issues that a lot of people don't

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talk about. This is actually the case in Africa as well,

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is you know, we say Palestinians, but there are tribes

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within Palestinians, and I'm trying to I'm actually trying to

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google it right now. All the but like you know,

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there's there's different plans and we tend to think of, oh,

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here's Palestinians. We tend to think of Arabs in general.

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There's Arabs, but there's different plans and factions and families

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within those societies. And that's why, like democracy doesn't always

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work quite right because like let's say you get hired

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onto the police force, You're going to try to get

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your cousin hired. He's part of your plan, he's part

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of your family. And that's how you end up with

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a mostly Shia police force in Iraq. Right, That's just

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kind of how that part of the world works because

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a lot of it is still tribal, right, and we

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just don't have any concept of that inside the United States.

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No, we don't. I was trying to look it up

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while you're talking. I can't. I can't find like a

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definite number. But it does does echo exactly what you're saying.

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A lot of it is made up by extended families

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throughout the.

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Generation Sucsans was. Yeah, there was exact sorts of plans,

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and you know, and this happened in Afghanistan. Didn't happen

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to me personally, but I know a guy. I know

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a guy right who who said that they built a

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like a water uh, like a irrigation system for this

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one town, and this other town went and blew it

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up because like they thought they should get it first.

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And it's like we, you know, and yeah, these tribal politics, man,

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you know, like and we kind of thought like, all right, well,

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we're gonna go to Afghanistan, We're gonna create Jeffersonian democracy,

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and you know, we just kind of ran into that

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tribal issue. You know, for the longest time. You know,

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Ahmad Karzai was essentially mayor of Kabble, right, he was president,

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but he was Breck. You step outside of Cobble, you

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might as well be stepping back into the year two

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thousand while over the year seven hundred, depending on the

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definition you want to go through here. Yeah, but yeah,

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the tribal thing is it's just not something that that

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we can ignore and uh, it's uh, it's something that

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we have to think about whenever dealing with these societies

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where when we look at it and go, well, we

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gave you this freedom, how come you're not well because

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you put this other tribe in charge, not my tribe,

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so I have to fight this other tribe. God's Yeah.

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Our misunderstanding of the of the region and its history,

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as just as you said, between tribes has been an issue.

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But I'm going to I'm going to get to some

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before we move on. I'm going to get to something

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that that touches on because you know, you mentioned Afghanistan,

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like when when we went in there around two thousand

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and one, right, or War on Terror but before that,

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we helped to supply the rebels and help push back

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against the Soviets at that time. And a lot of

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people don't even know this, but Afghanistan they went through

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a period where they were literally a communist country. I

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was backed by the Soviets before the Soviets invaded in

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seventy eight or seventy nine. So and before that, they

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weren't even in Islama State. They were a monarchy. They

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ran by, you know, under the rule of a monarchy.

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You know, at that time, Islam wasn't even a governing body.

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It was literally just a religion, you know, and it

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was spread out among different tribes.

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But yeah, they're absolutely right, and there are people who

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were wearing many skirts and kabble, you.

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Know, wouldn't But the reason I brought that up is

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because you bring up a You brought up Afghanistan, and

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the US gets the blame for creating these terrorist organizations

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all the time. If it wasn't for US, this wouldn't

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have happened. Right, if we didn't back Israel, nobody would

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hate Israel or hate the United States, which which is false.

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They're still going to have an issue with Israel. They

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always have but the reality is, you know, like I

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just did a deep dive on this the other day.

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Islamic let me correct myself. Extreme Islamist terrorism has been

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around in that region for thirteen hundred years literally, and

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it's not a new concept. And primarily it was terrorism

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against other Muslims. It wasn't about being against the West.

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It was about power and control, subjecting the other people

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that they believe didn't hold up or lived to the

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standards of Islam, at least to their extreme view of

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it anyway. So it's a long history of terrorism and

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a religious war within the people that literally practiced the

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same religion, which is crazy. And you know, we always

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see in the media how the Western powers are to

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blame for the situation. The United States is to blame,

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not We're not infallible at all. We did things that

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we probably shouldn't have. We don't have a full understanding

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of why we should be there. We just knew that, hey,

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we're going to spread democracy and free the people. But

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there was way more to the story than just that.

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So it's it's like, what do you say to those

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who always always believe that we should just not ever

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get involved, Should we not ever involved, or we are

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we just perpetuating perpetuating the problem, or is it something

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that we really should always have a bit of a

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hand in to make sure it doesn't get too out

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of control as far as our interests are concerned, or

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maybe in the world's interest.

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Well, the question kind of comes up as before we

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get involved, what is the definition of when okay? And

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that's I did a video about that. Essentially it was

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about how how Vietnam can kind of parallel what the

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conflict with China might look like in the sense that

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if we go into Taiwan without a full understanding with

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but win actually means we're gonna have a lot of

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trouble because the Yeah, the idea behind Robert McNamara during

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Vietnam was well, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna apply

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graduated pressure until they realize that all right, well we

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probably can't win against the United States, so we're just

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gonna come to the peace table. And that didn't seem

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to work, right, like you know Vietnam, you know, Vietnam

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just are oh, we can wait these guys out. That's

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exactly what they did, right, So yeah, you know it's

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by that that's a. I think before getting involved any place,

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we should kind of get that definition of win, Like

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what does definitely what what does win actually look like?

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If you if you take a look at the Huthies,

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what does win mean? Does it mean regime change? Does

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it mean the who aren't capable of launching attacks against

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the against shipping in the Red Sea anymore? Does it

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mean treading them to the point where the loyalists I

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used to say the loyalists, but the people in the

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western half of the Yemen would be able to actually

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fight back against the hoo Thies because right now, Yemen's

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kind of a fractured state. The Hoopies are just one tribe, right,

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they are a tribe that are inside of Yemen, and

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you know they were able to take over a good

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portion of the western half. So what does win mean? Right?

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So that's kind of the direction that you should probably

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go in. It's before you get involved in any kind

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of conflict to figure out what win actually means.

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So literally, a better understanding of the area in the situation,

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Like what's the impact of our involvement?

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Yeah, I get where you're coming from. As far as

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what is a win? I mean, it's basically defining what

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the mission is, right and why are we here? Really,

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I don't think we ever know the whole story. But

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at the same time, I mean, I just I guess

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it's really about do you do you believe that? Not

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that I wouldn't say the world, it's it's more like media, right,

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there's this rhetoric in this, this whole movement of you know,

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America bad, anti America, America needs to be dismantled, America

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needs to go away because everything we do just makes

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the world turn to shit. And I don't believe that

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at all. I really don't. So I want to get

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your opinion on that, and you know where that's coming from,

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I mean, outside of obvious propaganda that's being spread to

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divide us. What do you think about what's going on

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right now with that, with that push for that talking

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point about America just being the enemy of the world,

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or rather every time we get involved, we just create

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a worse situation.

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Boy, that's a very good question, you know, I think. Yeah,

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back after the terrorist attacks, one of the excuses we

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kind of had was, well, they hate our freedoms, and

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I think that some people they they look at their

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government and they go like, man, my government is a

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government for the people in charge. Right, They don't think

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like you look at an Arab spring, Well, how did

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Arab spring start? Well, it's started because there was a

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fruit cart vendor who didn't have the money to pay

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for a license for his fruit cart. And he also

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didn't have the money to pay for a bribe to

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this policewoman who kept harassing him. Right, and so what

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does this guy do? Well, he sells fruit illegally and

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then the police come and smashes fruit cart. Now, then

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he goes and sets himself on fire in protest. Right. So,

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I think that you have people who they don't understand

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why their government treats them the way they do. And

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they look at America and it's this amazing kind of

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why does ever want to come here? They hate us

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so much? But I would bet you if you went

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to an average Palestinian and said would you like to

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come to America, They'd be on the next fricking flight

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as long as they can bring their family with, right, Right,

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they like we there is this magical part of America where,

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for the most part, we really do live in a security.

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We live in a society where we do generally follow laws.

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Most people do pay their taxes. Most police aren't really corrupt,

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at least not to the extent that you know, you

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can pay a bribe to get out of the ticket

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or something like that. Right, Like, I can't even imagine

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what would happen to me if I tried. You know,

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if the police came and I held out one hundred

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dollars bill, probably wouldn't go, right. They probably arrestd me

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for for trying to bribe them. Right right now, I'm

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sure there is corruption, right we saw that. He saw

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that in New York, Yes, with Mary Eric Adams, who like,

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let me do all these favors for Turkey, and you know,

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I get to fly to Turkey for fifty dollars whatever,

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you know, Like for Menendez, that was always a good one,

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Robert Menz It's.

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Like, I mean, we'll always be corrected bars and it's

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never to the level that we see in these other

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third work countries for example, right.

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Now, not even close. Like if I want to start

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a business here in the US, I have a I

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have an Indian friend of mine and he was telling

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me how great the US is, How like this guy

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he moved from India to Texas and like now he

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wears a cowboy hat, he owns a gun, he's driving

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a Ford f one fifty. Like America has this way

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of just turning evil into Americans, right, And he told me,

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like how like in India, if you want to start

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a busines, you got to go pay a bribe to someone,

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and then you go to another agency and you gotta

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pay another bribe, and everything's set up so that everyone

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kind of gets their palms greased on the way to

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starting this business. And in America, if I want to

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start a business, I literally go on to the State

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of Maryland website and I pay fifty dollars and I

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start an LLC.

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Literally, just go online, you can start one.

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And that I think that is for the most part,

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the engine of our growth, the engine of our success.

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It's that people can just you want to start a business,

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you want to start cleaning business, You just all right,

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you'll get some fabulous so get some rags, get some buckets,

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form the LLC poof you just started a business. And

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I think that people in some other countries they look

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at America and they don't they don't get it. They

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don't understand, like, how come they're successful, but we're not.

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And they may realize like, oh, it's because our leaders

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are corrupt, but they can't fix that. So it's just

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kind of it might be easier to blame America of

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your problems than it is to kind of look internally right,

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because you can't fix that. The only way you fix

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that is the way the Syrians did. Now, a lot

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of Assyrians died to make that happen.

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The thing with the well, so I see where you

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come from. I agree with that. But the reality is

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the Middle East is always, always had had some kind

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of conflict, and I know, as you stated before, a

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lot of it is tribal. It's like that area has

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never well, we consider it modernization, right, because Western culture

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is just completely different. We always look at them as

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not progressing there. They seem to be very traditional in

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their ways after all these years, and and what happens

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is from what I see, I may be wrong, and

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that's why you're here, you know, correct me, But what

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I see is as soon as as soon as one

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faction rises right on behalf of the people, it's always

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starts out as on behalf of the people by the people,

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and they want to overthrow the regime that becomes authoritarian

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or dictator like, and then they themselves become the same

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thing they overthrew. It's almost like once they have power,

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it becomes so infectious that they just keep repeating the cycle.

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What is your opinion on why that happens. Is it

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00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.880
literally just always because it's a tribal thing, or is

457
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.000
it because they're they're just they're just so used to

458
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:35.079
not being able to have any kind of power or

459
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.200
control whatsoever, that once they have it, it's like it

460
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.359
just gets to their head. They just can't they can't stop.

461
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.079
They must take it all out at that point. Well,

462
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:48.279
that that's a fantastic question. You know, maybe I look

463
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.519
at you, like at George Washington. Probably out of the

464
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:56.200
smartest thing George Washington ever did was quit after two terms, right, right,

465
00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.200
that just kind of set the precedent. And we we've

466
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.000
had this precedent for two hundred and fifty years. While

467
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.599
a little bit less years, we've had this precedent.

468
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.400
Where for the most part we have this peaceful transition

469
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:15.359
of power, right and for the most part elected officials

470
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.640
at least they try their best to do the right thing,

471
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.559
you know, at least that they're answerable to their constituents

472
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.559
because if they don't answer to their constituents, they get unelected.

473
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:36.279
And uh, you know the in in some societies, you

474
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.519
don't necessarily see that they're they're when if you take

475
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.440
a look at sad on the Saints, Iraq, there's only

476
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.240
one party that was the Bath Party, right, and I

477
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.440
guess it was nominally a democracy. I mean I could

478
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:55.200
say you, I mean you could you could technically iron

479
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.440
as a democracy if you want to get technical. They

480
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:03.000
do elect their leaders, right, they do that. I think

481
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.799
it's required in their constitution that one Jew and one

482
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:14.680
Christian be in parliament for representations. They're not. It's not

483
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:17.480
called the parliament. I can't remember the dar name of

484
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:22.119
their governance, their governor structure right now. But yeah, so

485
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.799
there's there's that, right, like there are nominally democracies. But

486
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.319
when you get to the point where you can't actually

487
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.079
affect change, I think that that just drives some people

488
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.720
absolutely nuts.

489
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.240
So it's to me almost like a really it's a

490
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.160
false sense of democracy. I mean, when you have the

491
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.640
same leader year after year after year, I mean some

492
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.839
of these people going twelve years, twenty years, I mean, hell,

493
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:51.359
Russia's allegedly, you know, they're elected democratically. Putin's been there

494
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.640
for I couldn't even I just been there for so long.

495
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.640
I I want to say since two thousands now, but

496
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.680
weren't two thousand because he was he was president I

497
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:04.920
think twice, and then Medev Medievev took over and then

498
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.480
Putin took over again.

499
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.000
So yeah, but he's been there at least twenty at

500
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.400
least twenty two to twenty somewhere between twenty two twenty

501
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.519
five years that I don't remember the exact date he

502
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.359
became into power, but it's around that. You know, it's

503
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.160
been two decade. Over two decades, right, But we we

504
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.799
see the situation where, you know, these leaders that come

505
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:26.839
into power, don't they just don't want to relinquish it.

506
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.000
And when the when the when they feel that there's

507
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.200
change in the air, it seems like that's when they

508
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.680
start turning the screw to their own people and then applying,

509
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.759
applying the fear right to keep them in line. And

510
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.599
since you did bring up Iran, so the thing is

511
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.160
the thing we I need to understand about Iran is51200:29:46.079 --> 00:29:50.359



they're they're they're their own nation. They do command respect51300:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.920



for who they are there right now, they've been the51400:29:55.000 --> 00:29:58.400



leading supporter of terrorism since nineteen eighty four, at least51500:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.279



officially that's how they were labeled, right.51600:30:01.079 --> 00:30:03.519



Since Prizes nineteen seventy nine, well.51700:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.400



Before, but officially nineteen eighty four. Is when they're like, hey,51800:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.799



you know, these guys are arg just state as supporter51900:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.200



of terrorism?52000:30:11.720 --> 00:30:12.000



Now?52100:30:12.519 --> 00:30:18.200



Is is theirs necessarily? Do you think a religious war?52200:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.279



Or is it just is that just nothing but a52300:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.480



cover for their ultimate goal of being the power in52400:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.640



the region because they used proxies to do their own bidding,52500:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.559



Like they're not directly going out and attacking people and52600:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.119



causing all of this, all of this harm and and52700:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.160



all this chaos. You know, they get they get to52800:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.319



have like the Mafia's that right, the boss would always52900:30:39.319 --> 00:30:40.960



have a buffer, so that their buffer has always been,53000:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.920



you know, like these proxies. So how do we how53100:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.839



do we hold a country like that accountable for doing53200:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.359



those things? You can easily deny they never had direct53300:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.519



involvement because they never really did anything except for recently53400:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.559



between what happened with Israel and Iran, you know, with53500:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.440



the bombings and but not the missiles. But before they53600:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.160



weren't always recon fault. So so how should that be approach? Like,53700:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.599



how how were they to be held accountable for their actions?53800:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.680



But at the same time we allow them to thrive53900:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.880



and develop and continue to grow as a society.54000:31:13.720 --> 00:31:19.319



Well, you bomb them. You did exactly what I look.54100:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.400



I've often said, like you got, we got as a nation.54200:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.839



We have to get back to our core competencies. And54300:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.640



we're not very good at nation building, but we are54400:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.119



really good at a bombing piece like that. That's one54500:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.559



of the things where we really excel at. It's been54600:31:33.640 --> 00:31:38.319



that way since scott when Reagan operational Dorado Canyon, when54700:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.759



we realized Kadafi was his terrorist leader. Uh. He blew54800:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.599



up uh pan Am he pan Am flight over locker54900:31:46.640 --> 00:31:52.599



room in Scotland. He was helping fund the ira He55000:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.519



was helping fund Uh. There was an operation uh to55100:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.240



Iranian affiliated terrorists who blew up a disco in Berlin.55200:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.720



I want to say it was Berlin. They killed a55300:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.839



couple of US service members. There isn't even a situation55400:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.519



where Easter and East Germany they caught some I want55500:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.640



to say it was Iranian terrorists trying to smuggle a55600:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.319



bomb on board and the bomb wasn't for the East55700:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.480



German flight, it was going someplace else, and they're going55800:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.000



to put the bomb on that plane, and the East55900:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.359



Germans turn them in. They don't want those idiots in56000:32:23.400 --> 00:32:28.400



their country either, right, you know. But once we bombed,56100:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.960



once we bombed uh Libya, Kadelfi shut up for a56200:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.240



good let's say ten twelve years, yeah, roughly, you know.56300:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.240



And look, the reason Iran uses proxies is that it's cheap,56400:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.359



and that's actually probably one of the reasons why they56500:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.279



lost their air battle against Israel. You know, Iran, they56600:32:52.359 --> 00:32:58.359



can't build an aircraft carrier, they can't build an ICBM56700:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.240



and are continental ballistic missile that can reach the United States.56800:33:03.680 --> 00:33:08.799



But what they can do is fun terrorist organizations around56900:33:08.799 --> 00:33:14.000



the globe that can perform kinetic actions that can give57000:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.839



them leverage over certain areas of the world like Lebanon,57100:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.039



the Houkis, and Yemen Hasblahamas, right, so they can do that.57200:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.519



And what's interesting is that I think that the reason57300:33:26.640 --> 00:33:32.200



Iran kind of failed against these Israeli attacks isn't just57400:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.599



the skill of the Israeli air force, which is undeniably skillful,57500:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.079



but they were kind of putting so many eggs in57600:33:41.160 --> 00:33:46.480



the IRGC and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard corner basket. They57700:33:46.519 --> 00:33:51.160



were funding terrorist organizations all over the world that they57800:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.759



were kind of neglecting the RSH. They were neglecting their57900:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.359



own military, and you can see that just by looking58000:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.799



at their jet fighters. I mean the jet fighters remains58100:34:02.079 --> 00:34:07.640



are from the nineteen seventies. I'm sure there's been some upgrades.58200:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.760



And supposedly Iran they want to purchase a couple of58300:34:12.760 --> 00:34:16.559



suit thirty four's from Russia, like a deal went through58400:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.000



to purchase these to thirty fours. I think they've got58500:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.480



a single suit thirty four. I think they've got a58600:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.400



single one because Russia is like, yeah, we kind of58700:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.679



need these right now, no surprise, right. And a couple58800:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.920



of years ago, Russia helped Ron launch a satellite and58900:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.199



UH I remember the spy satellite, and they said to59000:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.519



Iran like, we're going to use this for a little while.59100:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.400



Consider it a consider it a feet right, So yeah,59200:34:43.599 --> 00:34:49.519



the the UH I think that Iran's way to affect59300:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.440



changes through the proxies, which was cheap. But for every59400:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.239



proxy that you fund with a dollar, it's one less59500:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.559



dollar that you can fund your conventional mil military with59600:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.679



and that's how you get into a situation where you59700:35:04.800 --> 00:35:11.880



have this military that is essentially very brittal. Right, they59800:35:11.920 --> 00:35:18.239



can't even destroy Israeli planes coming into their own country, right,59900:35:18.280 --> 00:35:22.199



they can't launch sorties against Israeli planes that are flying60000:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.960



into their own country. I think Israel established air dominant60100:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.920



and then three to five days to the point where60200:35:27.920 --> 00:35:35.199



they're operating during the daytime, which is absolute madness. Yeah,60300:35:35.599 --> 00:35:36.480



it's crazy.60400:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.840



They obviously didn't have any fear of what Iran could do.60500:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.599



No, No, they didn't have any fear. And that's kind60600:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.760



of not how it's supposed to be. Like, you're supposed60700:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.920



to have air sovereign to be over your own country,60800:35:48.559 --> 00:35:52.599



and after three to five days, I believe Iran didn't.60900:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.159



That's a pretty big issue. And that's I think it's61000:35:56.159 --> 00:36:01.079



directly because they funded their proxies so much. There's essentially61100:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.360



no money left over for their conventional forces, the surface,61200:36:04.400 --> 00:36:09.320



their missile forces, their air force. So you're you're you're61300:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.800



running how to reduce capacity, and then you actually get61400:36:12.840 --> 00:36:17.840



into that fight and now you get smacked around by61500:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.920



a country that's twenty times smaller than you.61600:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.039



It's right, it's interesting, but you brought up Russia because61700:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.840



the what I've seen, what I've seen happen with Iran,61800:36:28.960 --> 00:36:34.119



so out out the gate right, Pakistan is like, oh,61900:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.800



we support Iran and we will back them and if62000:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.960



we have to, we'll launch a nuclear weapon if we62100:36:39.039 --> 00:36:44.079



need to. So they Iran has these I don't even62200:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.320



know if they're real allies or pseudo allies because Russia62300:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.360



is supposed to be an ally. But what we've seen62400:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.760



is we've never really seen Russia really come to their62500:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.639



need necessarily. I know, Iran helped Russia in the in62600:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.760



the Ukraine War by sending them like I think it62700:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.719



was like technology like drones, different things.62800:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.480



Yeah, sad drones, okay.62900:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.960



And and then same thing with China. China supposed he63000:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.119



you know, says hey, they also stand by Iran, but63100:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.840



China doing what China does. They haven't really done much63200:37:11.119 --> 00:37:15.000



or said anything outside of just saying we support a run.63300:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.199



After the bombings, everyone got quiet. So I don't know63400:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.519



if that's a testament to still, you know, how strong63500:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.519



the US really is in the world stage that people63600:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.480



actually saw that, Okay, we're not we're not sleeping anymore.63700:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.320



We will take care of things if we have to,63800:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.519



or if Iran their true colors just came out and63900:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.599



this whole thing has just been you know, one giant64000:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.079



charad really, you know, in terms of what Iran can64100:37:40.159 --> 00:37:41.519



really do and what power they really have.64200:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.360



Yeah, I mean, look, if you're Russia, what exactly are64300:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.360



you going to do right now to support Iran? Much64400:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.239



like that's that mean, like can you send aircraft? But64500:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.599



you kind of need those aircraft right, So oh what64600:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.599



do you do? Because I don't really have an answer.64700:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.000



Oh no, no, I get it. It's just it just seems64800:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.039



it just seems like they don't really have the allies64900:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.840



they think they do. You know, as soon as as65000:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.280



soon as the US did step into back Israel, which65100:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.400



we always do, which it's gonna be another question for you,65200:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.880



but it seemed like everybody just kind of stepped back.65300:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.960



They just didn't want to get involved anymore. In my opinion,65400:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.760



I think China is just watching all these conflicts, and65500:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.239



just while they're doing that, they're testing the waters over65600:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.960



there with Taiwan. Sorry Taiwan. I don't know why I65700:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.079



said Taiwan. So Taiwan and also you know, also the65800:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.920



Philippines and just recently, they basically laser targeted a German65900:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.679



I think with a helicopter or some military craft when66000:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.000



they were having an exercise out there. So to me,66100:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.840



I think China is saying what people want to hear,66200:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.000



while at the same time plotting to do what they66300:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.440



want to do in the region. And I mean, I66400:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.320



know they're end goal is to eventually take Taiwan. But66500:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.880



you know, if Russia You're correct, obviously, it's like they66600:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.159



don't have any means to really separate and and fight66700:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.519



two wars. They just can't. I mean, they're barely even66800:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.360



able to handle what's going on in Ukraine right now,66900:39:14.000 --> 00:39:18.119



and that's a much smaller country, you know, So I67000:39:18.199 --> 00:39:23.320



get you now. As far as Israel and Irando, I67100:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.320



always ask I've asked a question by you know, two67200:39:26.360 --> 00:39:30.480



other guests that I've had recently, and do you do67300:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.400



you believe at some point that Israel needs to stand67400:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.880



on their own without knowing that the USA is going67500:39:36.920 --> 00:39:37.400



to step in?67600:39:40.079 --> 00:39:40.320



Hmm.67700:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.559



I know we're allies. I'm not saying we shouldn't help67800:39:43.599 --> 00:39:47.760



our allies, but there have been situations where and historically67900:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.239



that they they have done They've done things that have68000:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.639



really made it hard, right, especially for US. I mean,68100:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.280



if you look at the geopolitical relationships, like what if68200:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.199



we're in negotiation with another country or we're trying to68300:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.760



do something to where we can improve relations, and then all68400:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.320



of a sudden, Israel's another war with somebody you know,68500:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.320



or there's another conflict. How do you feel about that68600:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.360



or at least your opinion on that situation.68700:40:12.519 --> 00:40:18.360



Well, usually Israel doesn't necessarily start, right, you could say that,68800:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.559



you know, one war that Israel I'm really trying to.68900:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.039



I mean, really the only war that hasn't really started69000:40:25.199 --> 00:40:31.920



was nineteen forty eight, right, so kind of like what69100:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.000



do you know, even the Siini can't say was the69200:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.840



Siani campaign? Was that? I think that was instigated by69300:40:39.000 --> 00:40:44.079



Egypt and they were like, well, let's just keep going.69400:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.360



You know, let's say when the Egyptian forces are collapsing,69500:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.079



let's just keep going. You know, might as well keep69600:40:50.079 --> 00:40:57.880



going here. So I usually it seems like other people69700:40:58.000 --> 00:41:03.119



kind of roll in and and they cause trouble with Israel,69800:41:03.159 --> 00:41:05.119



and Israel decides to respond, and that's when they have69900:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.760



to step in. Now, for the most part, Israel does70000:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.760



and on its own when they need a little extra help.70100:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.920



They can call the US for the most part. Like70200:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.159



you look at Israel's air force and they were able70300:41:19.199 --> 00:41:24.360



to do a lot with I think it's eleven fighter70400:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.360



eleven fighter squads, right, I think it's three F thirty fives,70500:41:30.159 --> 00:41:37.880



three F sixteen eyes well one of sixteen e welling laughs,70600:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.920



F fifteen. I I think they have two F fifteen70700:41:42.079 --> 00:41:48.760



c's these squads A fifteen C. I'm trying to do70800:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.400



this memory, but I think it's eleven squad.70900:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.440



Yeah, but it's not a large, not a very large.71000:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.760



Passive, but it's it's a respectable air force for the71100:41:57.840 --> 00:42:05.000



Reeds veritably, Yeah, paratively, and you know, like they can71200:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.599



usually handle themselves. It's kind of when things got out71300:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.840



of control that the US gets called in and you know,71400:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.960



normally they don't start it, they shut us all, finished it.71500:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.199



Well, history is shown they yeah, technically typically do not71600:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.880



Typically in tech you don't start it. You're correct.71700:42:22.599 --> 00:42:26.000



Sixty seven sixty seven is a real startup, but only71800:42:26.039 --> 00:42:29.360



because they saw the Egyptians building up on the border. Right.71900:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.800



They essentially took out the Egyptian air force in one day.72000:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.480



Right, Yeah, they're they're a powerful nation for their size.72100:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.480



But it's still do you think we should always have72200:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.480



to step in, because that's that's been that's been the72300:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.519



rhetoric going around. You know, it's as if we shouldn't72400:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.320



support Israel anymore. I think if we're no longer their ally,72500:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.239



we lose a major position there in terms of an72600:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.119



ally military position, everything.72700:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.320



A major technical position. Same.72800:43:00.719 --> 00:43:00.800



Like.72900:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.519



Look one of the reasons Israel and the United States73000:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.119



when it came to Oman just their guitar guitar a73100:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.800



couple of weeks ago, when around launched all dismissiles, We've73200:43:13.840 --> 00:43:18.480



gotten all that data from Ukrainian intercepts, Like whenever Ukraine73300:43:18.639 --> 00:43:25.760



intercepts a Russian missile with a Patriot, we get that data, right,73400:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.039



So we got a heck of a lot of data73500:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.000



on the performance of the Patriot and the performance of73600:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.119



the Patriot in Israel. We got a heck of a73700:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.840



lot of data on that, right. One of the things73800:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.880



that Israel helped create with US money was the iron73900:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.679



Dome syst Well, now we have access to that tech.74000:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.840



You know, iron Dome really isn't that useful for us,74100:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.360



but we can use some of that tech to develop74200:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.280



other systems that might be useful in the future. Another74300:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.159



good example is the Trophy system. Trophy system is on74400:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.239



I want to say, one hundred and fifty US tanks74500:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.960



that are in Germany. Trophy system is kind of like74600:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.320



an iron dome for tanks intercepts incoming rockets. Right, So74700:44:13.440 --> 00:44:17.840



we have this this tech transfer with with Israel that74800:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.360



would be lost if they were no longer allies. So74900:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.360



I mean, when you essentially have a country that's in75000:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.920



a very bad part of the world's kind of willing75100:44:27.000 --> 00:44:28.880



to test out some of your weapons for you and75200:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.400



bring back the data, wellck, why not do that, right?75300:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.239



And then we would also lose some of that intelligence75400:44:35.280 --> 00:44:35.559



as well.75500:44:35.639 --> 00:44:41.079



No, yeah, absolutely so. And plus Israel is a democracy.75600:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.320



You know, we need to be able, we need to75700:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.519



support democracies around the globe.75800:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.079



Yeah, you know, I just want to clarify that I75900:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.519



that question wasn't to put you on the spot and76000:44:52.679 --> 00:44:53.880



have you say Israel bad.76100:44:53.920 --> 00:44:54.840



I was just want a.76200:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.000



Dropeena because you know, there is as I stated earlier,76300:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.159



as a sentiment that akabad right where the for the76400:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.079



cause of all iron the world? And then now it's like, well,76500:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.079



let's not support Israel anymore. Let's just let them do76600:45:08.159 --> 00:45:09.840



whatever they got to do and stand on their own76700:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.239



and then you know, well, at the same time support Ukraine,76800:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.519



which was never really an ally. But you know, with76900:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.880



that situation, you know, we don't want to see the77000:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.440



little guy get taken over by the larger aggressor right77100:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.559



for no reason. So it's just like this whole, this77200:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.480



whole thing right now, with the way the media is77300:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.599



pushing their talking points in their narrative, it's like we're77400:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.559



living in an upside down world. And I don't I77500:45:34.599 --> 00:45:35.960



don't know where it's coming from.77600:45:36.039 --> 00:45:36.119



It.77700:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.639



I don't know who's who is behind this propaganda. But77800:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.239



you know, even on us soil, we have you know,77900:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.440



people that are marching for Hamas. I mean, I get78000:45:46.599 --> 00:45:49.159



supporting the people of Palestine are stuck in the middle78100:45:49.159 --> 00:45:51.559



of the actual you know, people civilians that are that78200:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.119



are being killed because of the decisions made by Hamas.78300:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.400



I understand that, but I don't understand how we can78400:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.800



get behind to rist organizations to say no, they're actually78500:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.920



the good guy. You know, it's America that's bad. We're78600:46:04.960 --> 00:46:06.400



the reason that all this is happening.78700:46:07.480 --> 00:46:09.000



I had a whole theory about that.78800:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.960



Okay, Well, I just won Daro's coming from it is.78900:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.559



I think I honestly, I think one of the reasons79000:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.719



that the US are college students in the United States79100:46:23.360 --> 00:46:29.400



got so involved with the whole conflicting gaza was that,79200:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.480



you know, these are students who for four years three79300:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.159



four years, three years at least, they couldn't go to class,79400:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.400



they couldn't wear masks, they couldn't go out on the79500:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.119



date with a girl. Then all of a sudden, like79600:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.599



here's this opportunity to meet other people in real life79700:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.519



on a subject that they're passionate about. I'm kind of79800:46:50.559 --> 00:46:56.360



reminded of reminded of my old first sergeant when I79900:46:56.400 --> 00:47:01.920



first joined in nineteen ninety four. My first sergeant was80000:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.800



like he told me he was a Vietnam vet. And80100:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.960



this guy said, you know, uh what he used to do.80200:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.639



He used to work at the Pentagon. After work, he80300:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.719



would change into civilian clothes and he would go to80400:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.599



the protests and in civilian clothes and like tell the80500:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.239



girls that he was a soldier. And you know, he80600:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.000



got he got to sleep with all sorts of girls80700:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.039



that way because they thought, like, we're bringing them into80800:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.840



our side. So if you're if you're a kid, if80900:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.360



you're a boy, right, and you know you, uh, you've81000:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.599



never kissed a girl before, and I've been out on81100:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.480



a date with a girl before, and here's an opportunity81200:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.039



to meet girls in real life. You don't have to81300:47:41.039 --> 00:47:43.239



worry about a mask, you don't worry about tender and81400:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.920



they're passionate about this thing. Yes, I'll be passionate about81500:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.679



this too. Can we go back to your dorm afterwards? Right?81600:47:48.760 --> 00:47:54.039



So I think I and I I I had, though81700:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.159



I don't think I am. I really know, because it's81800:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.000



it's it sounds like a very open and shut thing, right.81900:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.079



It sounds like one of those things where you can82000:48:05.119 --> 00:48:10.559



go like, oh, you know, I'll do this thing and82100:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.199



I'll get this girl, and you know, I'll be able82200:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.840



to socialize with people. I'll be able to feel a82300:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.280



part of something. I think a lot of these kids,82400:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.400



you know, if you're if you're wearing a mask in82500:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.199



high school for three years and you can't do organized sports,82600:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.199



so you can't go to homecoming dance because of COVID,82700:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.800



and then you go to college and now you have82800:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.639



all this freedom and look at all the cool kids82900:48:36.679 --> 00:48:41.079



are out here protesting. I'm going to go protest as well. Right, Yeah,83000:48:41.360 --> 00:48:46.079



I think a lot of it was was just I83100:48:46.079 --> 00:48:47.880



don't want to say, and there are some people who83200:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.679



might feel genuinely bad, but I would not be surprised83300:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.880



if there were a lot of kids I did a83400:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.480



whole video about this who just wanted to make friends83500:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.639



and this was just an easy way to do that.83600:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.440



That's that's yeah, I mean, I'm that can it seems83700:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.000



to track. I have another I have another person that83800:49:09.119 --> 00:49:13.679



mentioned that some of this support also is we have,83900:49:14.360 --> 00:49:19.119



you know, generations removed from at least the atrocities that84000:49:19.159 --> 00:49:23.360



we saw right with September eleventh, that don't understand what84100:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.719



the US went through. And then you know, this new84200:49:25.760 --> 00:49:31.039



generation of people, these younger people in their lifetime hasn't84300:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.159



haven't really seen the effects of true terrorism or or84400:49:34.239 --> 00:49:35.960



not even not on a broad scale like it used84500:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.800



to be. It never really went away, but it wasn't84600:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.679



as bad now as it used to be until recently.84700:49:41.760 --> 00:49:45.360



Now we're looking at this war between you know, Hamas84800:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.679



and Israel, and this is the first time they've been84900:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.679



able to see a conflict like this of this scale,85000:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.039



and they don't know what to make of it. They85100:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.400



don't know how to make the connection as to why85200:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.639



amass is considered bad. You know, who really is Palestine?85300:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.440



Elin's not a nation, you know, they were region. They85400:50:02.440 --> 00:50:04.639



were always referred to as a region, a region that85500:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.159



encompassed a lot of other tribes and nations, not nations,85600:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.679



but you know, tribes and other cultures together. It was85700:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.960



always considered region, not a nation. So they don't get that,85800:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.000



they don't understand that, they can't make the connection, so85900:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.679



they just see, oh, this is bad, there's no reason86000:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.360



this war should be happening. And then you also have86100:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.960



Ukraine going on. But it seems like everybody, really the86200:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.960



younger people, really attach themselves to this Palestinian or Palestine86300:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.119



versus Israel hoss Israel war. And I think it's because86400:50:36.119 --> 00:50:41.599



they just don't understand or see what is behind it all,86500:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.159



Like what is the true history, not just what they hear,86600:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.840



Because it seems like this is really what pisses me86700:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.960



off lately. Ryan. I don't know if you agree, but86800:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.599



it seems like we're living through a period of revisionist history.86900:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.039



You know, we got like you don't have to say87000:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.119



anything because I know you can't, but I'll just say,87100:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.360



you have guys like this martyr made guy who believe87200:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.519



suddenly that Hitler's a good guy. You know, he wasn't87300:51:02.519 --> 00:51:04.159



all that bad and he said a few things, but87400:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.960



all in all, his intent was good. And you know,87500:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.639



Winston Churchill was the bad guy, and if it wasn't87600:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.079



Winston Churchill, we wouldn't have had to go to war87700:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.000



with Germany, et cetera. And it just makes you scratch87800:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.559



your heads, like where is all this revisionist history stuff87900:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.960



coming from? You know, it's really easy to be, you know,88000:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.760



twenty thirty forty years removed from something and then go88100:51:21.880 --> 00:51:23.960



back and say, well, it should have been done this way.88200:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.000



You didn't live through it, You didn't understand what was88300:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.639



really happening. So I believe that could also be what's88400:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.519



going on right now. You know, we have a generation88500:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.000



of people that have never really had to deal with88600:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.159



this situation, and right now, with the way social media is,88700:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.480



it's so prevalent you cannot turn it off. You know,88800:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.599



every time you turn your phone on, it's another headline,88900:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.440



it's another picture, it's another video, So that's fake. But still.89000:51:50.800 --> 00:51:55.199



I recall how there is this one college professor of89100:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.119



an interview with him, and he's starting to realize that89200:51:58.440 --> 00:52:01.880



a lot of his students have no real concept of89300:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.079



September eleventh, no, no actual concept of what happened that day,89400:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.000



and so he'll actually play the phone calls from the tower,89500:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.000



he play the video footage. He'll show like the horror89600:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.119



of that day, and that kind of brings it home89700:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.559



for a lot of these people who who were hearing89800:52:24.599 --> 00:52:26.800



their you know love you know, people call their loved89900:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.599



ones and say goodbye, right leaving a message on an90000:52:29.599 --> 00:52:34.880



answering machine, having to say goodbye, which is like, God,90100:52:34.920 --> 00:52:40.559



I remember that day. That was a horrible, horrible day. Yeah. Yeah,90200:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.400



that's one of those everybody remembers where they were kind90300:52:43.400 --> 00:52:48.840



of day. Everybody, everybody remembers where they were. Yeah, I90400:52:49.199 --> 00:52:53.400



got I remember just uh, you know, we were all90500:52:53.440 --> 00:52:57.039



like ready to go. Let's go. Let's go kill who90600:52:57.039 --> 00:52:58.800



were supposed to kill. I don't know, let's just go.90700:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.880



It was one of those it didn't matter if you90800:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.519



were in the military or civilian. Everybody was ready to go,90900:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.599



pick up a pitchfork whatever. It was like, Hey, we're91000:53:06.639 --> 00:53:10.079



going to defend our soil. Yeah, and I don't know91100:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.519



if we It's just it's just funny how throughout the years,91200:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.400



we just lose that connection, you know, as as being91300:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.719



Americans and being proud of who we are as a people.91400:53:19.039 --> 00:53:20.920



And it's sad to see where we're at right now.91500:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.920



But I don't know.91600:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.440



I hope, I hope we could turn that around and91700:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.800



bring back the pro American sentiment, not not isolationism by91800:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.119



the way, just being more proud of who we are.91900:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.000



And and I hope that we can understand why things92000:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.239



were done the way they were done. It wasn't all92100:53:36.519 --> 00:53:41.239



bad intentions, you know. Oh, and it's a sad thing. Uh.92200:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.440



Let me ask you this question. What's next?92300:53:44.440 --> 00:53:44.639



Man?92400:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.679



What do you think's next with with Iran and Israel92500:53:47.679 --> 00:53:48.599



and where this is going to go?92600:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.239



Ah, I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. No, No,92700:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.840



you know, both sides are pretty much spent, you know.92800:53:59.840 --> 00:54:04.000



They they just don't have the internal resources. That's why92900:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.440



when people said, oh my god, this is gonna be93000:54:06.440 --> 00:54:11.039



World War three, it's not. We don't. There's just no93100:54:12.519 --> 00:54:18.199



there's no capacity for waging a long war. Now. Granted,93200:54:18.320 --> 00:54:23.159



Israel is waging along war inside Gaza, but that's not93300:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.320



as expensive as keeping aircraft running twenty four to seven, right, right,93400:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.039



and you know, Iran doesn't have It's not like they93500:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.440



can sail to Israel and drop the landing ships and invade,93600:54:36.119 --> 00:54:40.440



right true, there's no World War three, right, So I93700:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.440



think what happens is both sides kind of take a breather,93800:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.480



they take lessons from that. Iran is probably gonna they93900:54:49.519 --> 00:54:52.800



probably have a shopping list, but there's not a lot94000:54:52.840 --> 00:54:58.199



of people that can actually fulfill that shopping list. They're94100:54:58.199 --> 00:55:00.760



gonna need new surf scare systems, They're going to need94200:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.800



new radar systems, and kind of one of the issues94300:55:05.039 --> 00:55:10.400



is that there's just no capacity around the world for94400:55:10.559 --> 00:55:13.840



them to gain the systems that they need to defend94500:55:13.880 --> 00:55:18.400



their airspace. You look at you look at Russia. You know,94600:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.400



try placing an order for a missile system in Russia94700:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.480



right now, right they're going to fill their orders first. Absolutely,94800:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.639



Try placing a system for a missile system order from94900:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.920



China right now. Well, they're going to fill their orders first.95000:55:31.000 --> 00:55:31.760



So who's left.95100:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.039



Yeah, China is not concerned with anyone else having more95200:55:35.079 --> 00:55:36.039



power than that China.95300:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.239



China is. China's always going to do it's best for China,95400:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.119



and right now it's best for China's manufacturing weapons for95500:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.719



a fight against Taiwan, right right, agree, that's what's best95600:55:46.719 --> 00:55:47.199



for China.95700:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.320



I thought I thought we could have been on the95800:55:51.400 --> 00:55:55.840



verge of World War three. And the reason I thought95900:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.719



that was what I kind of mentioned earlier, because you know,96000:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.000



when Pakistan stepped up and they were right away going96100:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.599



and oh, we'll use neicerent weapons that we have to,96200:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.119



we'll do it. And then Russia right away stepped up96300:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.400



and he said, oh, we're behind Iran and in so96400:56:08.480 --> 00:56:11.719



Dia China. But you know, it does make sense what96500:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.840



you're saying, because from a financial standpoint, none of them96600:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.280



could could enter into this and have an extended war,96700:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.559



none of them, none of those nations whatsoever. I think96800:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.119



I was more I would think I took it more96900:56:24.159 --> 00:56:28.079



seriously just because of what Pakistan said, you know, a97000:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.360



shooting a nuclear weapon off. But who knows. I mean, yeah,97100:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.119



you're probably right. It probably did come down to literally97200:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.960



just finances, like there's just nobody could afford to do it.97300:56:38.320 --> 00:56:44.079



Nobody. Yeah, And I was not actually familiar with with97400:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.320



Pakistan saying they're going to use the nuclear weapon, because97500:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.480



when someone says we're going to use the nuclear weapon,97600:56:51.119 --> 00:56:56.079



the next question needs to be okay against whom, Like,97700:56:56.599 --> 00:57:01.000



what's the what? What is the I've often said this,97800:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.719



there's really only four cases in what you'd use a97900:57:03.800 --> 00:57:07.400



nuclear web, right. That is to establish a breakthrough. Let's98000:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.559



talk about a taxical weapons to establish a breakthrough. That's98100:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.320



a valid use case. You blow up a nuclear weapon98200:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.679



above a troop concentration. You do it as an air bursts.98300:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.400



There's very little ground radiation or very little radio I98400:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.039



could fall out, and you run your troops through that98500:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.079



hole that you made in the front lines. That would98600:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.599



be an ideal weapon for Russia to use against Ukraine98700:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.119



if they had the troops to actually exploit a breakthrough.98800:57:30.880 --> 00:57:33.880



There's a second thing, which is defending a breakthrough, like98900:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.280



when Ukraine went into curse, using a nuclear weapon on99000:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.719



Russian taxical nuclear weapon on Russian soil, that would have99100:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.800



been a good use case for using a nuclear weapon, right.99200:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.880



It would have stopped that breakthrough like that, and it99300:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.760



would have been on Russian soil that the world probably99400:57:51.800 --> 00:57:54.159



would have been mad, but hey, they blew up their99500:57:54.199 --> 00:58:00.400



own country, so that's okay. Right. The third thing is99600:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.000



to use a nuclear weapon against the naval fleet American99700:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.039



carriers in the Atlantic. That is an ideal use case99800:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.480



or a nuclear weapon. The fourth thing is an amphibious landing.99900:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.559



So if Taiwan or China lands on Taiwan using a100000:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.199



nuclear weapon against the amphibious beachhead, that would be an100100:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.480



ideal use case or a nuclear weapon. So when Pakistan100200:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.079



says we're going to use a nuclear weapon against what,100300:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.360



are you going to have exploded over Israel? Good luck100400:58:30.400 --> 00:58:30.599



with that?100500:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.280



No understood? I believe with h No, I'm with you.100600:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.039



Where it came from, you know, it's where it came from.100700:58:38.239 --> 00:58:43.079



Was was the belief that when the situation was happening, right,100800:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.880



it was all based allegedly on the fact that Iran100900:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.920



wouldn't come to the table with their nuclear data deal.101000:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.800



We didn't want No, the world does not want them101100:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.159



to have a nuclear weapon or to develop one. So101200:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.480



Pakistan at the time, and a lot of the other101300:58:58.119 --> 00:59:03.159



sympathizers of our we're always like, why does Israel he them,101400:59:03.519 --> 00:59:05.239



they're not even part of this agreement or this pack,101500:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.639



why do they have nuclear weapons?101600:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.559



Well, that Israel has a nuclear weapon.101700:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.039



Right, So that's what that's what the rhetoric was. So101800:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.800



it was it was a response to everything going on101900:59:15.880 --> 00:59:18.880



saying if if Israel dares to launch a nucle weapon,102000:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.039



if there's a nuclear weapon launched, we're going to launch102100:59:21.360 --> 00:59:24.760



everything we have and back Iran. And and that I102200:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.079



believe that's where that came from. So, I mean, when102300:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.440



a country or nation says, hey, we're going to use102400:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.239



our entire nuclear arsenal if we have to, kind of102500:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.320



makes me, you know, go, hey, well wait a minute.102600:59:36.679 --> 00:59:38.039



You know, we might be going a bit too far.102700:59:38.079 --> 00:59:39.519



But you know, to your point, you're right, it's like,102800:59:41.400 --> 00:59:41.840



who are.102900:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.559



They gonna do? Yeah, what are they gonna do? Now?103000:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.840



A good use case for a nuclear weapon in Israel's case,103100:59:48.079 --> 00:59:52.880



if they have them, might be all right, well, we103200:59:53.320 --> 00:59:59.199



want to reach Fourdoh, we can't reach Floridoh, so let's103300:59:59.599 --> 01:00:05.119



explod the nuclear weapon groundburst small fifteen twenty kiloton nuclear103401:00:05.159 --> 01:00:10.679



weapon against Foorid. Oh that'll take out Florida. Would the103501:00:10.679 --> 01:00:18.000



world be mad? Probably? But in some ways, like I103601:00:18.000 --> 01:00:22.480



think one of the reasons that Israel kind of kind103701:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.239



of I don't want to say they screwed themselves, but103801:00:25.920 --> 01:00:35.760



when ten days after the ten days after the October seventh,103901:00:37.000 --> 01:00:41.719



there was an explosion at the it was the Urbia hospital,104001:00:43.239 --> 01:00:48.119



and the New York Times immediately publishes Israel dropped a104101:00:48.159 --> 01:00:53.000



bomb on this hospital, yes, and so then they and104201:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.159



I like when I saw that, I was like, no,104301:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.119



they did, and I kind of knew why. I watched104401:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.960



the footage and all that and like that that was104501:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.760



than the bomb from Israel. And it was later found104601:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.360



out to be a missile fire by Islamic Jihad that104701:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.559



just kind of fell short. And that that happens. I104801:01:09.559 --> 01:01:14.599



think twenty percent of all missiles launched against Israel land104901:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.079



inside Gosy.105001:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.119



Never really made it never hit Therom markin.105101:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.320



Oops, right, you know.105201:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.800



And that's that's an interesting thing. Abought the hospitals because105301:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.559



it seems like there are two hundred and something hospitals105401:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.760



in Gaza, you know, I.105501:01:31.679 --> 01:01:32.599



Think it's fewer than that.105601:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.880



But well, the way they're reporting it, it's it's it's105701:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.719



just crazy that it seems like every other week there's105801:01:38.719 --> 01:01:43.599



a hospital being blown up. And how much of this105901:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.760



is true versus just again propaganda, how much of that106001:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.559



is just you know, trying to win the sympathy of106101:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.559



the world and turn Israel into the big bad enemy.106201:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.119



In some cases, I believe it's been true. I would106301:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.920



have to go overreach each bombing case. But you know,106401:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.119



if Daddy l daddy is in a hospital. Though hospitals106501:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.679



are supposed to be exempt from attack according to the106601:02:07.679 --> 01:02:11.119



Geneva Conventions, kind of the issue that you run into106701:02:11.360 --> 01:02:16.400



is that if you are hosting troops in there, and106801:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.159



I don't mean troops that have been wounded. And you know,106901:02:20.639 --> 01:02:24.199



there was a couple of years ago there was an107001:02:24.239 --> 01:02:26.760



attack against the hospital and I think it was Amnesty107101:02:26.760 --> 01:02:31.400



International said, oh, the Ukrainians were using the hospital as107201:02:31.400 --> 01:02:36.760



a best home, and like that's one of those well yeah,107301:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.760



like because if you go to the hospital to visit107401:02:40.800 --> 01:02:43.079



your buddy, where are you going to eat? You're gonna107501:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.719



eat at the hospital, right like that that's kind of107601:02:46.079 --> 01:02:54.039



stretching it as an excuse for attacking the hospital. But yeah,107701:02:54.079 --> 01:02:58.199



that just for the most part, you're not supposed to107801:02:58.199 --> 01:03:00.559



do that. And so if as it is going to107901:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.119



decide to do that, they're going to go over there,108001:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.639



uh there, Oh my god, I can't remember the darn108101:03:09.639 --> 01:03:11.000



word for it, but they're going to go over a108201:03:11.039 --> 01:03:14.920



procedure to decide how to actually strike this. They're going108301:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.119



to do the weaponearing and say this is affect type108401:03:18.119 --> 01:03:21.239



of bomb because Daddy Elbaddie is on the third floor108501:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.440



in the fourth room, So we're going to use a108601:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.079



small diameter bomb that will just take out this one room.108701:03:28.400 --> 01:03:36.480



So you have to be very aware of how Israel108801:03:36.559 --> 01:03:39.679



is actually going to undertake these actions, and so they108901:03:39.760 --> 01:03:43.159



might do this, But what was the criteria for striking109001:03:43.199 --> 01:03:44.320



this particular target.109101:03:44.880 --> 01:03:48.440



Yeah, I understand that. I think I think the reason109201:03:49.159 --> 01:03:54.199



people are so so peeved about all of it in109301:03:54.280 --> 01:03:57.800



terms of because it seems to be indiscriminate. That's you know,109401:03:58.039 --> 01:03:59.840



let's just say that's what it is. That's what people109501:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.719



that's what people are gathering about, you know, from what's happening.109601:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.599



Uh and and and the reason it seems this way109701:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.960



is because Israel has proven that they can be very109801:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.000



strategic and surgical when they want to be. But when109901:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.840



it comes to Gaza, it's like it's it seems like110001:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.280



they're just leveling the place.110101:04:20.119 --> 01:04:22.480



But a lot of that, a lot of the leveling110201:04:22.840 --> 01:04:26.960



is those are bulldozers, Those are D nine bulldozers. So110301:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.440



those aren't necessarily bob buildings. Now, it doesn't make a110401:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.400



difference for the person who's home is destroyed, right, But110501:04:32.679 --> 01:04:35.760



if you're in a platoon and you have to clear110601:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.760



a house and you know there's a bad guy in110701:04:37.800 --> 01:04:41.400



that house. You're like, well, is this is this bad110801:04:41.440 --> 01:04:43.800



guy really worth my platoon's life. You might call in110901:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.199



an air strike, or you might say, just get the111001:04:46.280 --> 01:04:48.480



dn I in up here. Uh, some of the D111101:04:48.559 --> 01:04:52.400



nine bulldozers are actually armored and uh they're remote controls.111201:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.800



So the dnine just comes in, levels the house and111301:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.079



move on to the next house.111401:04:57.000 --> 01:04:58.679



So you think a lot of this is is just111501:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.440



a blown out of portion. You know, it's it's all111601:05:01.480 --> 01:05:05.199



for just getting eyeballs on news feeds and on social111701:05:05.239 --> 01:05:06.000



media posts.111801:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.360



Possibly it works. Yeah, hey, you talked about God. There's111901:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.199



that one guy who's saying Hitler was the good guy. Yeah,112001:05:13.239 --> 01:05:17.360



well look, get you on, Tucker Carls. Everybody else says112101:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.360



Hitler is the bad guy, right, So Tucker Carlson, now112201:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.639



I was all right, Well, if I bring on this112301:05:22.719 --> 01:05:24.840



guy says Hitler was the good guy, I'm going to112401:05:24.880 --> 01:05:26.800



get lots of people watching my show. I'm going to112501:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.480



get lots of people talking about my showfa right, And112601:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.480



he's always been fired from every job he's ever had.112701:05:34.880 --> 01:05:41.239



He needs news, he needs news, all right, and what's112801:05:41.239 --> 01:05:44.360



going to get the views well, talking about how Hitler112901:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.480



is a good guy. Yeah, miss understood.113001:05:47.039 --> 01:05:48.480



Yeah, I know there's a lot of guys that are113101:05:48.519 --> 01:05:51.679



that are that are taking that stance and again trying113201:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.400



to reread history. But you know that, to me, that's113301:05:54.400 --> 01:05:56.719



a whole other conversation. I mean that that's another rabbit113401:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.840



hole that we can dive down. But I just think113501:05:59.880 --> 01:06:04.119



it's so ridiculous how people don't see what's going on113601:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.079



and they're just they're just eating it up. They're just113701:06:07.119 --> 01:06:09.559



eating it up. I mean, it's so easy to do113801:06:09.639 --> 01:06:11.920



research these days. It's not like you have to find113901:06:11.920 --> 01:06:14.679



the library that might have a specific collection of books anymore.114001:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.559



I mean, the internet is vast. I mean you've got114101:06:16.559 --> 01:06:18.960



to vet your sources on the internet, but it's it's114201:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.960



not as hard as it used to be to find information,114301:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.639



you know. So it's as if they just take these114401:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.880



people for their word just because they have a huge114501:06:27.920 --> 01:06:32.280



following or a podcast that's popular. But you know, nobody114601:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.960



seems to be questioning what they're saying. They're just eating114701:06:34.960 --> 01:06:35.280



it up.114801:06:36.159 --> 01:06:41.599



Yeah, I mean that that's some of that is some114901:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.760



of that is the attention culture, right, Like you know115001:06:44.800 --> 01:06:48.679



when you have when you have some Instagram video, you know,115101:06:48.760 --> 01:06:52.039



you're scrolling through this thing. And that's how a lot115201:06:52.079 --> 01:06:54.360



of people get their news these days from Instagram. Like115301:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.880



have you ever waked? Like, have you recently watched the115401:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.280



evening news, ABS Evening News, ABC Evening News? Like once115501:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.639



in a while, I might. I've tried the news. I115601:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.440



watched the morning news. I do. I do watch the115701:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.480



morning news to find out like the weather or hey,115801:07:10.480 --> 01:07:12.639



these roads are going to be closed in DC or whatever.115901:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.559



I do watch the morning news. But for the most part,116001:07:16.599 --> 01:07:19.199



like when you watch the evening news, one of the116101:07:19.199 --> 01:07:26.599



interesting things you see is commercials for medication. It's like,116201:07:26.800 --> 01:07:31.559



literally every single commercials for medication. Why is that? It's116301:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.440



because the only people who watch the news are old people.116401:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.239



Enough, the only people well, you know, that's one of116501:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.320



the reasons I don't watch mainstream news or televised news,116601:07:42.400 --> 01:07:47.039



because it's it's ninety percent commercials and advertising and maybe116701:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.599



ten percent of actual content, you.116801:07:49.559 --> 01:07:53.079



Know, probably less than that, right, I think I'm gonna116901:07:53.079 --> 01:07:55.440



say in ten minutes of commercials, I'm gonna say it117001:07:55.840 --> 01:07:56.599



seems like every.117101:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.719



Time I'm watching it, I run into like, you know,117201:07:58.920 --> 01:08:00.400



ten commercials in a row, and then all of a117301:08:00.400 --> 01:08:02.840



sudden they talk for thirty seconds. It's another ten commercials.117401:08:03.159 --> 01:08:05.679



It's almost as bad as watching an NFL game sometimes.117501:08:05.880 --> 01:08:09.880



So you have another issue that you kind of run into,117601:08:10.920 --> 01:08:15.320



is you have with the Internet. You have this hyper117701:08:15.320 --> 01:08:21.439



specialization when it comes to viewing content. So if you117801:08:22.399 --> 01:08:26.600



see someone's opinion and you like that opinion, well they're117901:08:26.640 --> 01:08:28.600



going to show you more things that are associated with118001:08:28.640 --> 01:08:33.279



that because they want to keep your eyeballs on you know,118101:08:33.439 --> 01:08:37.880



they want to keep your eyeballs on the on the screen. Absolutely.118201:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.640



Well, since we're talking about this, it's I've seen it118301:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.640



with and I know you've seen it because you've been118401:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.119



doing this longer than I have. I just started getting118501:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.279



into video right and utilizing YouTube and rumble and whatnot.118601:08:50.680 --> 01:08:53.000



And what I've noticed is the difference between my audio118701:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.319



podcasts and what works on YouTube are two different things.118801:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.000



I could throw a two hour interview on YouTube and118901:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.840



get almost views, but I've turned into a bunch of119001:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.920



shorts and all. It's like you've got thousands of Look,119101:09:04.039 --> 01:09:07.279



I'm like what because people can't get past thirty seconds,119201:09:07.760 --> 01:09:09.680



and even within those thirty seconds for like they if119301:09:09.720 --> 01:09:13.479



they stick around for fifteen of those some can't, right,119401:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.039



But in general, you know, I know, generalizing, but it119501:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.000



just seems like everybody has a very short attention spans119601:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.239



when it comes to video content. I've noticed anyway. So119701:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.079



it's like I could have a two hour episode on119801:09:26.119 --> 01:09:29.039



a conversation on a podcast audio format that does extremely well,119901:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.119



but then in video format it seems like everybody just120001:09:31.159 --> 01:09:32.960



wants to get right to it. It's like, where's the120101:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.079



short at I want to see these little clips. They120201:09:35.119 --> 01:09:37.439



don't want to go through the whole thing and really120301:09:37.479 --> 01:09:39.359



take it. In the majority, I'm not saying all, but120401:09:39.399 --> 01:09:43.279



the majority, So I've noticed the difference. It's it's it's120501:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.279



it's crazy. And again, different audiences too, right, Maybe maybe120601:09:47.319 --> 01:09:50.079



people asn't audio or just an older generation of people120701:09:50.119 --> 01:09:52.800



that are used to just wanting to hear those long conversations,120801:09:52.800 --> 01:09:55.159



But it seems like the younger people or the newer120901:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.279



generations are like, nope, I want to quick, I want121001:09:57.279 --> 01:09:58.680



to fast, I want to the point and I'm done.121101:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.199



I want to move on now. That's what seems like121201:10:01.239 --> 01:10:06.720



that that's my opinion anyway, from my perspective. Yeah, So, uh, Ukraine,121301:10:08.640 --> 01:10:09.399



what's going on.121401:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.319



Man, Well, we're about to us our time box, but121501:10:13.439 --> 01:10:14.520



I know, let's keep We're.121601:10:14.359 --> 01:10:18.000



Getting there, but before before we go, I wanted to121701:10:18.039 --> 01:10:20.279



get your opinion on what's going on with a sudden121801:10:20.319 --> 01:10:24.239



shift to send Ukraine weapons and support when Trump was121901:10:24.279 --> 01:10:26.680



against it or seemed to be no.122001:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.239



Honestly, I don't think that was President Trump. I think122101:10:29.279 --> 01:10:33.520



that was uh crap. I can't remember his name. I122201:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.479



think there are some people in the d O D.122301:10:36.560 --> 01:10:38.840



I can't remember the specific guy's name, but he's a122401:10:38.840 --> 01:10:42.439



big China hawk, and I think that was him. And122501:10:42.520 --> 01:10:45.760



when Trump kind of realized what had happened, that this122601:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.880



happened without his authority, I think he uh kind of122701:10:49.880 --> 01:10:55.239



put the kabash on that real quick. Albridge Colby, what's122801:10:55.279 --> 01:10:59.000



the guy's name, Elbridge Colby. He's a big we need122901:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.840



to be ready to fight China guy. He's not wrong,123001:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.720



but we can. We can do both. And kind of123101:11:05.520 --> 01:11:08.319



the scary thing here, The thing I've mentioned is that123201:11:09.279 --> 01:11:13.520



by supporting Ukraine, we are deterring China because we were123301:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.920



saying we're gonna stand with our allies no matter what.123401:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.000



So China, if you decide to take Taiwan, you're gonna123501:11:19.000 --> 01:11:19.279



have a.123601:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.520



Bad day, right, And that was definitely in question for123701:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.439



a while. Wouldn't we stand on the Hunter allies? It123801:11:24.439 --> 01:11:27.760



seemed like we wouldn't. But I mean we've definitely turned123901:11:27.760 --> 01:11:29.279



that corner and showed the world that we build.124001:11:30.159 --> 01:11:33.079



Well. One of the one of the huge issues is124101:11:33.119 --> 01:11:36.199



that there are a finite amount of weapons. We burned124201:11:36.199 --> 01:11:39.640



through a lot of interceptors. We burned through a lot124301:11:39.680 --> 01:11:46.119



of interceptors in Israel, and I think Lockie Raytheon has124401:11:46.159 --> 01:11:52.000



the capability of manufacturing five hundred and fifty factories per year.124501:11:53.760 --> 01:11:58.159



It's not a lot, right, No, And you know, I'd124601:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.439



love to say, like, well, we should, we should fund124701:12:01.479 --> 01:12:06.000



that more, right, we should. We should put more money124801:12:06.079 --> 01:12:10.279



into developing missiles, should hire more people working at these factories.124901:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.159



And that's great, But who's going to pay for that? Right?125001:12:13.279 --> 01:12:13.680



I agreed?125101:12:13.720 --> 01:12:14.960



Yeah, exactly.125201:12:15.359 --> 01:12:20.479



So, so you know, in some ways, like maybe one125301:12:20.520 --> 01:12:24.800



of the solutions is maybe we need to look at125401:12:24.960 --> 01:12:31.920



a less expensive interceptor, right that has eighty percent of125501:12:31.920 --> 01:12:36.479



the capabilities. Right, Like I'm surprised andrel hasn't worked on125601:12:36.560 --> 01:12:38.800



something like that. Like here's this thing, here's this new125701:12:38.840 --> 01:12:41.039



missile we developed, It's one hundred and fifty thousand each125801:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.199



week and make ten thousand of them. It'll fit on125901:12:43.239 --> 01:12:46.720



the pack three launcher and it has eighty percent of126001:12:46.760 --> 01:12:48.720



the capabilities of the Patriot.126101:12:48.319 --> 01:12:55.199



Is is supporting Ukraine with munitions enough? I mean, do126201:12:55.279 --> 01:12:57.840



you do you think because we first talked about this,126301:12:57.920 --> 01:12:59.720



and I think when you and I first talked was126401:12:59.720 --> 01:13:04.720



like back in January or so and so, do you126501:13:04.920 --> 01:13:08.479



think that at this point just giving them munitions and126601:13:08.600 --> 01:13:10.439



money is enough? Are we ever going to get to126701:13:10.439 --> 01:13:12.279



the point where you think we may have to actually126801:13:12.279 --> 01:13:16.479



get involved with real troops to push back on Russia126901:13:16.560 --> 01:13:18.800



just because there's such a much I mean, there's just127001:13:18.840 --> 01:13:22.159



a much bigger country. You know, it's a little different127101:13:22.159 --> 01:13:24.880



than the Israel Iran situation we're looking at. Russia is127201:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.960



just so much bigger and has so many more capabilities,127301:13:28.079 --> 01:13:31.359



you know, at least depth anyway, right depth. So do127401:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.640



you think we'll ever come to that or we'll just127501:13:33.720 --> 01:13:35.560



the support of munitions be enough?127601:13:36.640 --> 01:13:42.720



All Ukraine has ever wanted was weapons, Like they haven't127701:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.079



asked for any troops, they haven't asked for anyone to127801:13:45.119 --> 01:13:52.039



come to their aid. Now, could they? Could we do127901:13:52.119 --> 01:13:56.079



something more like established the no fly zone that I128001:13:56.119 --> 01:13:58.680



mean back when the war first started, I made a128101:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.720



video about that where like, look, it'd be really difficult128201:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.039



to establish no fly zone because we would have to128301:14:04.079 --> 01:14:09.760



take out Russian surface stair missiles, would have to Now128401:14:09.800 --> 01:14:15.600



kind of the question there becomes like, well, could the128501:14:15.720 --> 01:14:20.239



UK and France establish a no fly zone? And they128601:14:20.359 --> 01:14:21.239



might be able.128701:14:21.079 --> 01:14:23.720



To do that, That is the question actually, right, and.128801:14:23.680 --> 01:14:28.960



No fly zone would would really help Ukraine because it128901:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.720



essentially mean any missiles fired into ukraineould get shot down129001:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.359



and they have the capability. I don't know if they129101:14:37.359 --> 01:14:45.479



have the ability to run a WAX twenty four to129201:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.319



seven like the United States does, and you're gonna need129301:14:48.359 --> 01:14:53.880



those airborne warning control planes in order to detect those129401:14:53.880 --> 01:14:59.319



incoming missiles. But yeah, I certainly think that maybe establishing129501:14:59.319 --> 01:15:04.399



a no fly zone, at least from the European side129601:15:04.399 --> 01:15:06.920



of the European run no fly zone, that might not129701:15:07.000 --> 01:15:07.760



be a bad idea.129801:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.800



So that in combination with the continued support of munitions129901:15:10.840 --> 01:15:16.279



and money to fund this should be enough, I think. So.130001:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.960



I mean, that's like I said, that's all they really wanted, right,130101:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.000



give us the weapons we need.130201:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.520



They never called for actual troops I agree, You're correct,130301:15:24.560 --> 01:15:26.560



they never did. I guess.130401:15:26.640 --> 01:15:26.920



I guess.130501:15:26.960 --> 01:15:31.640



The other factor is will hooting back off eventually? You know,130601:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.239



the longer this goes out, it goes on. But will130701:15:34.239 --> 01:15:35.680



he eventually back off?130801:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.600



That's that's that's a good question. I you know, his130901:15:40.600 --> 01:15:45.840



his goal. The goal of Russia is to turn Ukraine131001:15:45.880 --> 01:15:49.720



into a satellite state. So one of two things is131101:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.359



going to happen. They're either going to turn Ukraine into131201:15:52.359 --> 01:15:58.079



a satellite state, Russia is eventually going to collapse. And131301:15:58.399 --> 01:16:02.399



I actually believe one of the reasons that our strategy131401:16:02.560 --> 01:16:07.199



at one point during the early administration was let's get131501:16:07.239 --> 01:16:10.319



out of Ukraine. Let's just let Russia take it, because131601:16:10.359 --> 01:16:15.920



then absolute nightmare scenario is what happens if Russia and131701:16:16.039 --> 01:16:20.600



Ukraine continued to fight for the next four years, and131801:16:20.640 --> 01:16:25.720



then China invades Taiwan, right, and then Russia collapses, and131901:16:25.760 --> 01:16:30.720



now we have a collapse state with nuclear weapons. We132001:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.199



have to go secure those weapons right now. The first132101:16:34.239 --> 01:16:39.680



time that Russia collapsed, people didn't leave their post, right132201:16:39.840 --> 01:16:42.039



even though they weren't getting paid or they didn't really132301:16:42.119 --> 01:16:44.960



know if they had a country anymore, they stayed by132401:16:45.039 --> 01:16:49.159



their post and they guarded those nuclear weapons. But I132501:16:49.279 --> 01:16:53.800



don't know if that's going to be the case if132601:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.479



Russia collapses to the point where you have regional warlords132701:16:58.039 --> 01:17:01.960



who take over and you know, now they're not gonna132801:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.600



be able to use those nuclear weapons because all the132901:17:05.640 --> 01:17:09.560



permissive action links are in Moscow. Right But eventually you133001:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.800



can take the plutonium out of there, you can give133101:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.079



it to another nation, they can build their own bob133201:17:15.119 --> 01:17:16.760



eventually some of all fear style.133301:17:17.239 --> 01:17:21.479



Yeah, do you do you think do you think Russia133401:17:21.560 --> 01:17:23.880



may be on the ridge of plausiphist does extend any133501:17:23.920 --> 01:17:25.479



longer it keeps going.133601:17:26.760 --> 01:17:32.199



I think they could collapse mainly because you know, at133701:17:32.279 --> 01:17:39.560



some point there's just no there, there's they're fighting their133801:17:39.600 --> 01:17:44.399



own economy, so you know when right now.133901:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.960



We're trying to stay ahead of it, right with this134001:17:46.239 --> 01:17:46.600



this war.134101:17:47.439 --> 01:17:51.760



So they're paying. So they have laborers and they have soldiers,134201:17:51.880 --> 01:17:56.000



and right now in the factories in Russia, like you134301:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.600



can either join the army or you get a job134401:17:58.680 --> 01:18:03.479



at a factory, and so Russia is paying money. These134501:18:03.479 --> 01:18:07.720



are compracti key, These are not conscripted soldiers. These guys134601:18:07.800 --> 01:18:11.159



are being paid to join the army, and right now134701:18:13.039 --> 01:18:16.960



they're paying them enough money that people think, well, I'm134801:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.199



going to roll the dice and run the risk of134901:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.079



joining the army for all this this fucking full of money.135001:18:25.600 --> 01:18:30.640



And the issue is that some of the weapons manufacturing135101:18:30.680 --> 01:18:34.720



companies they can't find workers, so they raise wages. So135201:18:35.159 --> 01:18:38.079



now people go to the weapons manufacturing company instead of135301:18:38.119 --> 01:18:41.279



joining the army. So the army raises wages, so then135401:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.079



the other companies raise wages, and they just keep raising wages.135501:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.239



The Army raises and the French companies raised wages. I135601:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.640



think twenty percent of Russia's economy is geared towards the135701:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.760



war right now. And you know, one of the scary135801:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.920



parts I've said is that if you turn that off,135901:18:58.159 --> 01:19:02.319



that's going to be a big problem because you can't136001:19:02.359 --> 01:19:07.199



just let's say Russia wins the war, right if they136101:19:07.199 --> 01:19:10.720



don't have a soft landing with their economy. There's going136201:19:10.800 --> 01:19:16.680



to be a huge issue, a massive issue, because you136301:19:16.840 --> 01:19:20.760



have all these people who they had a job one136401:19:20.840 --> 01:19:24.199



day and now they don't have a job, and maybe136501:19:24.319 --> 01:19:28.680



demobilize soldiers, and these soldiers they come back and yeah,136601:19:28.760 --> 01:19:31.279



they have a bunch of money that only lasts so long,136701:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.680



right then they might drink it all a way. Eventually136801:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.760



people You know, when you have a society and you136901:19:40.880 --> 01:19:42.920



just taught all these people how to use guns and137001:19:42.960 --> 01:19:47.000



they come back to their job, what happens, Well, people137101:19:47.039 --> 01:19:48.960



like that have always figured out how to get a gun.137201:19:49.560 --> 01:19:53.520



And Russia's gun laws are not the same as the137301:19:53.640 --> 01:19:58.119



United States, but you can buy a gun. So I137401:19:58.159 --> 01:20:02.039



think that's the kind of the nightmare scenario for Russia137501:20:02.079 --> 01:20:04.840



where let's say they win, but then they kind of137601:20:04.880 --> 01:20:09.039



lose as well because their economy collapses and we need137701:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.399



to the point where you can only raise wages so much. Right.137801:20:13.039 --> 01:20:19.239



What is Russia's main export right now? Cold natural gas oil, right,137901:20:19.720 --> 01:20:21.359



and the rest of the world can only buy so138001:20:21.479 --> 01:20:26.079



much of that. So and a lot of their extraction138101:20:26.159 --> 01:20:28.119



equipment is made in the West, so they can't get138201:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.800



spare parts for that. They also don't really have machine138301:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.199



tool industry. A lot of the machine tool industry is138401:20:34.239 --> 01:20:38.560



in Germany, the Netherlands, the United States. China doesn't even138501:20:38.640 --> 01:20:43.199



have a real machine tool industry. We see and C manufacturing.138601:20:43.720 --> 01:20:47.920



So you're pumping oil as fast as you can for138701:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.880



the hard currency that can that you can use to138801:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.439



pay your people and buy weapons and keep this war138901:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.159



going that at some point you're going to reach the139001:20:57.159 --> 01:20:59.560



limit to how much oil you can actually pump and139101:20:59.640 --> 01:21:04.359



things breaking down so there's less oil. So right, so139201:21:04.399 --> 01:21:08.039



they can only keep this up for so long, and139301:21:08.319 --> 01:21:11.079



I don't know how long that's going to be, but139401:21:12.640 --> 01:21:16.079



there is a finite limit to how long Russia can139501:21:16.159 --> 01:21:16.920



keep pumping oil.139601:21:17.880 --> 01:21:20.199



Yeah, no, that's true. And then there's the other the139701:21:20.279 --> 01:21:22.560



other factor as to whether or not or when do139801:21:22.640 --> 01:21:26.560



the people start to really turn on Putin and not139901:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.560



support them anymore, because for the most part, most Russians do.140001:21:30.680 --> 01:21:36.600



I can tell you when if Russia ever establishes a140101:21:36.640 --> 01:21:39.760



general conscription again, like they tried that. I want to140201:21:39.800 --> 01:21:43.439



say it was in September of twenty and twenty two.140301:21:44.479 --> 01:21:48.479



Russia did a general mobilization and the people hated it140401:21:48.960 --> 01:21:54.279



because there's always been this deal between Moscow, Saint Petersburg140501:21:54.600 --> 01:21:57.359



and Russian politicians, which is, do whatever the hell you140601:21:57.399 --> 01:22:00.359



want to, just don't touch our kids. Right, So, as140701:22:00.359 --> 01:22:04.600



long as the elite in Saint Petersburg and Moscow aren't140801:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.199



being sent to the front lines, do whatever the heck140901:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.680



you want. But the second your kids are being sent141001:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.159



to the front lines, that's that's an issue, and that's141101:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.199



where you get to actually see real change. You know,141201:22:16.319 --> 01:22:20.520



right now, the whole, the whole thing is being funded141301:22:20.560 --> 01:22:24.880



by taxes on these Russian oligarchs. They can't possibly enjoy141401:22:24.920 --> 01:22:26.880



those high taxes. They want to live in their mansion141501:22:26.880 --> 01:22:30.359



and buy their football teams in England and stuff, right right,141601:22:30.840 --> 01:22:32.159



that's not really good for them either.141701:22:32.319 --> 01:22:35.319



All right, well, I think we're at your time here.141801:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.319



I'd love to keep talking to it. I can't keep141901:22:37.319 --> 01:22:41.399



you forever, so I appreciate that. Oh yeah, I want to.142001:22:41.439 --> 01:22:42.760



I want to thank you for coming back on man,142101:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.079



and I'll see you in touch with you, but it's142201:22:45.079 --> 01:22:48.680



always informative and I like talking to you, so appreciate it.142301:22:49.279 --> 01:22:52.600



And you know, hopefully we talk again soon. I know142401:22:52.640 --> 01:22:53.600



you're a very busy guy though.142501:22:54.640 --> 01:22:55.479



Thank you so much.142601:22:56.039 --> 01:23:00.000



Thank you.142701:23:00.119 --> 01:23:06.520



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Ryan McBeth is an intelligence analyst, software architect, cybersecurity guy, and YouTube content creator of military, intelligence and disinformation topics. He appears on NEWSMAX as an intelligence consultant and consults for Veloxxity on OSINT and information warfare.

Ryan spent 20 years as an anti-armor and heavy weapons infantryman with two overseas deployments and developed C4ISR software for Accenture Federal Services. He lives in Silver Spring, Maryland with a large humidor and whiskey library.