Aug. 15, 2025

Jesse Rucinski - Veteran, Podcaster, Artist

Jesse and I talk about the VA and the struggles veterans go through to get healthcare. We then discuss Cultural shifts in America with the cancelling of Colbert and other leftist entertainment and media personalities. The Trump Administration is scrutinized as we discuss the Epstein list and case.

Jesse Rucinski:https://2146media.com/

Video Episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnJy8P5Xc9Q&t=12s

Chapters:

00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:30 - VA Experience and The Sudden Change in Care
00:06:06 - The Sudden Change in VA Care - The Trump Administration
00:09:42 - Did The VA Admit Their Faults?
00:11:09 - Veterans - Second Class Citizens
00:13:11 - Lack of Care - Pulling Away From Everyday Life
00:15:35 - Sinking Into Depression
00:18:10 - Becoming Yourself Again
00:20:18 - Lack Of Support For US Veterans
00:22:34 - Getting The Word Out - More Voices For Veterans
00:26:02 - Trump - Accountability and Epstein
00:30:04 - Epstein Theory - World Leaders On The List
00:31:41 - Trump - Manipulating the Left to Call for Justice
00:32:17 - Simple Minded Fools
00:33:46 - Ghislaine Maxwell - The Living Proof
00:35:20 - Trump Victims - Why Now After All These Years?
00:36:12 - Ghislaine Maxell - Will We Ever Know The Truth?
00:37:29 - Trump's Smarter Than We Think
00:38:11 - Clients on Epstein List Horribly Punished - Even if It's Trump
00:38:53 - Trump - The Bull and The Troll
00:40:16 - Protecting Victims - Epstein List Excuse
00:41:42 - Obama Accusations - No Response
00:44:58 - Russia Collusion - Was It A Hoax?
00:46:22 - Trump's Second Term - Keeping The Left on The Ropes
00:48:03 - Security Clearance Revoked after Service
00:49:08 - Trump Administration - The Fracture Within
00:51:30 - Bondi, Patel, Bongino - Truth or Lies
00:52:44 - Bongino Didn't Know what He Was Walking Into
00:55:24 - I Want To Believe - Dan Bongino Not a Fraud
00:56:13 - Epstein's Intricate Web - We May Never Know
00:58:40 - Colbert Cancelled
01:00:06 - Colbert - Politicizing Poor Performance
01:03:50 - Colbert and The Left - America Moved ON
01:04:06 - Colbert Cancellation - It Was A Business Decision
01:05:57 - Leftist Media and Entertainment - Lack of Self Awareness
01:09:37 - Colbert - The Gloves Are Off
01:09:45 - Cost of Doing Business - Self Centered Stars
01:11:55 - What's Next For Colbert?
01:12:06 - Don Lemon and Joy Reid - Overestimating Your Value
01:13:52 - The Fall of Jen Psaki
01:15:37 - Who Will Step Up for The Democrats?
01:17:12 - Gavin Newsom - Presidential Candidate or Elder Statesmen
01:18:15 - AOC and Jasmine Crocket Ticket - A Disastrous Idea
01:19:23 - The America Party - A Third Option
01:21:45 - Blue States - Voters Often Misrepresented
01:23:16 - Voter Choice - Limited Options
01:24:20 - The People Want Substance
01:26:55 - American Politics - High School Popularity Contests

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All right, I want to welcome Jesse Razinski back to

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the show. It's been a while, and you're back, by

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the way, your podcast, which is a good thing because

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you are the facts and data guy, and uh, you're

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back your shit up with a lot of receipts. So

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it's really good to hear you're back in listening to

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your return. As we discussed online, I wanted to, if

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you want to, I want to start with your VA

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experiences and what led you back to podcasting because when

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we talked about it's been over a year now, huh,

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since you're on last it was a year?

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It was it was close yeah, close to nine months.

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So back then you were having troubles, uh with the

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VA and trying to get help and doctors, et cetera.

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And and so the reason I want to talk about

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this is, first good thing, you are getting the damn

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help finally. Uh. But what changed and what in your

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mind led to you actually getting what you need finally

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after all these damn years, Like it seems like the

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struggle was it was ridiculous, you know, for someone like you,

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a veteran who literally needs that help but yet couldn't

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really get anything together. And now all this now all

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of a sudden, everything's just kind of coming like it's working.

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I got to understand what you think for what you

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know happened that that really led to that change and

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getting you back to where you need to be.

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Well, first off, let's throw a big thank you to you,

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because everyone asked every once in a while, you were

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the only person actually, you know, texting me like every

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seven to ten days agoing when youre getting back behind

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the mike, when you get mike, when you're getting back

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behind the.

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Mike, you need to be I need to, you know.

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But last, because last thing I did was right after

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he announced Pam Bondi as the AG back in November,

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so it was I didn't realize it was nine months. Yeah,

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I actually went and did one knowing good. But you know,

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the VA was a pile of ship for years. I mean,

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it's the frankest way to put it. I mean, I

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hadn't easier time getting my face put back together in

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the height of COVID after the accident. You know, it

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was easier to have surgery done during the height of

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it than it was just to get a doctor. Yeah,

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the last four years, it's amazing how that happened. Yeah,

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it's actually kind of funny if you think about it.

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But for four years, I mean I had three primary

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care doctors, and that includes like the year and a

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half it was eighteen to twenty one months.

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Where I didn't have a doctor at all. There was

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just nothing.

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And that doesn't include the time in between, you know,

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appointments when I didn't see anybody because I didn't even

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know my primary care doctor and Hannah's brother's primary care

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doctor were the same people, and I happened to see him, like, well,

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they just canceled my VA tomorrows. Something was to doctor

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I'm like, yeah, oh, she's been god for like six months.

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I'm like, wow, cool. So she quit, like, you know,

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the day after I saw her last week.

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Yeah, nobody reached out on man, don't no cared.

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But they figured they were just going to, you know,

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play it off until we all had to show up

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and that none of us talk to each other, which

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again it's the VA. Why would they be that smart?

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But thankfully my neurologists totally didn't suck. So Yeah, one

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more giant shout out to doctor Oaster because he was

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taking care of X rays. He was taking care of

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all kinds of stuff for me that was well beyond

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you know, a neurologists you know, jobs, title and all that,

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Like never I needed an X ray or anything. And

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I saw him he's like, cool, it's in go. Because

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I literally, like at one point, was arguing with doctors

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like can we do the X rays when I'm going

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down to see neuro and like we'll talk about it

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your next appointment, Like yeah, but see that's like two weeks.

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I'm gonna be there next week because it's down to Wilmington,

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so it's like an hour or so away, you know,

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so I'd like to do the X rays well I'm

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down there instead of seeing you guys week after in

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the driving back to Wilmington, and the response was we'll

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talk about it in your appointment, okay. And I told

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my neurologist and he's like, cool, it's in go. Thank

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you because they can apparently all see each other's direct

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messages that we have through there, so they can read

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everything we're saying. He's like, go, thank you. But uh yeah,

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it absolutely sucked. I couldn't get anything done and miraculously,

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I mean I don't find it to be a coincidence

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because the the first four years I was in absolutely sucked.

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Then there was this four year period where suddenly things

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were starting to roll again to include all the surgeries

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and I got run over. You everything I needed during

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COVID there was physical THERAPYOC and everything I needed. Then

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there's four years of nothing and I don't find it.

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And since then this year, just you know, since February,

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I got to go see the urologist. I mean I

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had to drive all the way to Richmond, but you know,

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I got to see them, the endochronologist, all of them,

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and got testosterone treatment from yeah, to replace everything because

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I was down at barely one hundred and the average

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is way above one hundred for my age group. So

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I got that taken care of, which I think is

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taken care of you. It's nice when your body feels

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like it's healing. It's good to have energy and not

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feel like a zombie all the time. It's not necessarily

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the funnest stuff for the injection to walk around for

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a day, but yeah, that got done. They sent me

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to a chiropractor finally, which is fantastic because I was

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arguing for that for years, and they got me a

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elymphatic drainage. You know, Lympho Press machined all the compression

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to help get rid of all the swelling, because I

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think I sent you pictures of the swelling, like at

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one point, if they could just sent you one of

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like my left leg, it was all blown up. So

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they got that and that took care of that problem,

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which you know, God bless them. They got me in

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for chiropractor again. Like I said, I'm going back to me.

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I got my head taking care of this. I think

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I go back to him next week.

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That got me put in for acupuncture.

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I made. There's so much going on.

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What what what led? What happened? Though, likegime, yeah, so okay,

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we can talk about that because I remember you and

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I discussing back and forth. You took a break because

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you had to get shipped done right, and you were

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frustrated as hell because like I can't get anything, like

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no one's responding to me. I keep put, keep put,

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being put back on the list, like going to go

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back to the line. Basically, it's like, and so you're

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the the you think the change really has to do

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with Trump's second term. Here at the start of the

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second term, that's when you did you start to notice

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it then or was a little bit down the line.

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I'm trying to understand what made the difference, because it's like, why,

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why should caring for veterans ever be politicized or prioritized

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differently depending on who the hell's in office? Like that

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doesn't make sense.

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Let's also not forget what the last regime did in there. Yeah, legitimately,

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I mean taking resources from the VA to deal with

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what was happening down in Texas. Let's just say that, Yeah,

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they were literally taking stuff from us. But it was

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a regime change, like I noticed it, yeah again in

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the first four years as a headache to do anything,

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and everything wasn't perfect, you know, under Trump's first term obviously,

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you know, and if you can look at you know,

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just basic numbers though, like where the veteran suicide rate was,

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Like it did go up a little bit as first year,

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a little bit of second year. But then in nineteen

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and twenty, even with yeah, all the lockdowns and isolation

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and all of that, like, we had our two biggest drops.

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Like ever it might have been, I couldn't even tit

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it last time. We had back to back drops of

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that big and then we almost went right back to

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it the first year under Biden, and then in case

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anybody's curious look it up. They haven't reported anything since

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twenty one, which tells you exactly how everything was handled

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for all of the can't some Port Trump and saying

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some Port veterans, Yeah, at least Trump let us know

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how many of them were. Yeah, how bad the situation

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actually was, which is, well, a lot of my liberals

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friends are gone on Facebook, but God rest their souls,

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they can't help themselves. But yeah, it's totally regime. Like

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there were four years where I was like, was the

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Cares Act where they said if we can't get help

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within thirty days, we can go in town And I

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literally when I was trying to get I don't remember

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who the hell it was at this point. I argued

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with them for so long but might have actually been Ortho.

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But like, the closest one we have is like six

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months from now. I'm like, yeah, but the Cares Act

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and she was like yeah, no. I was like, it's

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still the last time I checked, they didn't get rid

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of that. She's like yeah, but no, I was like,

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yeah it is. You're like no, And then I was

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like ever just schedule the damn thing some thing. And

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this time I mean like I've I mean, I forgot

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the consult went in, go do the acupuncturists. Just because

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they've been calling me for so many damn things lately.

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It's a very odd change of pace to see the

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VA's number pop up on my screen that much. Yeah,

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Like they call me in, They're like, oh, I can't

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do anyone in the network. The closest persons in Newburn

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good enough for you. I'm like, yeah, I'll drive a

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half hour, four whatever, I'll go to Newburn, like you know.

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It was just like that.

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And she's like, there's no more bureaucracy. You get your

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you know console, you get your twelve and if it helps,

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tell your doctor, he'll tell me. And it doesn't have

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to go through any you know, VA bureaucratic things. She's like,

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what like and she'll set up you know, she said,

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but it's approved. If it works, I'll approve it immediately.

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I'm like, are you sure this is the VA. She's like, Hi,

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I'm the VA, and I approve it. Like yeah, but

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god damn, where was this it was?

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They these guys in the VA even acknowledge that they

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were fucking you off for the for so many years

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before like all of a sudden, it's just g glad

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to meet you. We're here for you. They just me

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more everything previously.

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My neurologist always he always, he at least acknowledged that

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he knew how I'd say fucked we all were, because

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I mean I obviously wasn't his only you know patient

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that was probably asking him for you know, things outside

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of his means, because we just couldn't get anyone. I mean,

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it was like to the point where they were going

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to send me out in town and then they kept

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and then they're like, cool, we'll send you this place.

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I'm like okay, and then like they did the confirmation

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text in the afternoon like before, and then like at

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seven thirty that night, suddenly I got the canceling thing.

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that happened like three times, and I called him like,

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there has to be someone else that you could just

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send it to well, because they keep canceling the day

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before like and then they just stopped responding all together.

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So that was, uh, my eye doctor fighting that's not

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really a fight anymore, but arguing with optum because I

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scheduled my doctor appointment about this time last year. I'd say,

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except it was for you know, this year, Like you

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can go back to the say my doctor about us

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to be next summer. Let's cool. Whatever. Yeah, I'm not

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desperate for glasses, but just because of where I've been

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there enough times, they have all that. You know.

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I was like, but we need we need to acknowledge though, Jesse, like,

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this is a major problem in where it's catastrophic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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because we're talking about people as yourself was served. Uh,

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you come back with actual ailments and injuries due to serving,

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and and they treat veterans like their second class when

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it comes to medical or there's never enough resources. But

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we've got people living on you know, assisted living. How

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this is like medicare whatever, you know, any government assistants

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that aren't veterans that can call and get their treatment

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and get things paid for or get you know, a

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large percentage paid for it without a problem. But if

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you're going to the VA, the channel you're supposed to

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go through as a veteran, it's like you got to

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jump through hoops to make it happened. Yeah, it's it's good,

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you guys. I mean, it sounds like it's turning around finally,

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But the lack of accountability and admission to their fuck

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ups is ridiculous, like just acting as if no, it

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was always we're always here for you.

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Hey, Afghanistan the end that sounds accountability for all of them, Afghanistan,

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which I might add all of their people still say

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was a great success.

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I'd say it like bo.

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Rat, but I can't pull the accent off. I don't

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want to go and ruin bow Rat. Whatever is it

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for people that like him? Even though so Aparican does

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make me laugh every once in a while.

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But you know he's got it, he's got his moments success.

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You know it was good.

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But again, like the eye doctor thing, like they rescheduled

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it from like this August, they moved it up all

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the way to last November. Like no, they're like it's

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in the system, but you didn't show them, Like well,

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that'd be great if they told me so. Why because

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they're the one that scheduled it and show up on

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my VA thing with like no one send anything, no

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one told me anything that they moved on Like you'd

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think I would dick it off for nine months earlier.

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Like I'm stupid, but a lot, a lot of credit

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a lot of what you went through. I mean, it's

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not just care for pain management, you know, there's there's

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also mental health. There's so much stuff that that people need,

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and like, for you, it affected your life all the

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way around. I'm not going to I mean you're not.

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You tell people whatever you want. But from what I

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know from when we were texting or when we were communicating,

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et cetera, is you kind of like you needed your

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own time. So you kind of like pulled away from

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these things you love to do because you didn't feel

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you're in the right space to you know, push forward. Example,

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you backed off on the podcast, you backed off, even

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on your art work. You got back into it, I see,

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you know, even sending me a picture. You got some

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cool stuff going on, some great pieces. But it's like

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kind of shrunk back away because you're of the frustration

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from not getting the help you need. Yeah, and then.

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I didn't have a mental health talk for years.

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Yeah, how ridiculous. So can you tell can you tell

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everybody you know how that affected? Let's just I mean

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we'll use the podcast for example, because that's what I

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think most people know you for is your show. So

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the Jesse Razinski Show. By the way, if you don't

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know who Jesse Rasinski is, check it out. Really good stuff.

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But tell people how that impacted your show and your

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ability to move forward and your show and concentrate on

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doing that well.

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I mean, if you talk about, you know, the headspace

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part of it, I mean, like that was just putting.

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We all do it. I was just burying, you know,

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compartmentalizing things like you know, it makes me sound like

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a serial killer, but I'm going to go back to

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I can't complain that if I did, who would care?

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Except this time there literally wasn't even anyone that pretended

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to care. There was no one, And I mean there

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was a lot of just headspace stuff. And then you know,

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I didn't want to do anything, and you know, neurological

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stuff on top of it that I was, you know,

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and again I can't say anything bad about minrologists. He

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was trying. He was doing everything, but there's only you know,

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so much that one man could do. And I was

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getting you know, I mean, the glare was getting me.

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Bright lights were really getting me, you know, my neck

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was Thankfully again they got me into chuiropractice, so my neck,

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They got me to see real doctors and imaging and

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stuff lately, so my next Yeah, functioning, It was just

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a total collapse of anyone being able to do anything

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or caring about anything.

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Just I mean, I don't want to say I gave

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up because of everything, but I mean I was fighting

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so many battles that even doing this wasn't fun. Like,

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I mean, I'm pretty sure we met. I told you

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I was going to do all kinds of reclaimed wall,

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you know, wood on the wall behind me. I was

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going to do all this stuff, and then one day

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I literally came in here and if you didn't notice,

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the walls are very very like I packed it all

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up in the garage. One day she came in, She's like,

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what the like what I don't even want to look

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at it. Like I was so detached from the world.

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I everything's sitting out And do you think definitely, oh yeah,

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there was definitely it's it. And thankfully now yeah, I

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have getting a therapist. Finally took him fucking two years.

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But yeah, like they just everything compounded between you losing

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some of my marines, the health stuff, family stuff, but thankfully. Yeah,

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I don't care about the family stuff, but you can't

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fix stupid, right, Yeah they're going to hate.

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Each other, but you know, we're still good. But yeah,

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it was just everything compounding on top of everything.

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And I didn't say it was depressed, but when I

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did my mental health evaluation the other day, oh yeah,

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damn right, I was depressed, like you knows, just everything

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sucked and there was no like the light at the

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end of the tunnel was a fucking freight train and

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I knew it was a freight train whine because yeah,

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nothing was getting you know, anyone that's out there listening

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can understand. And I mean, it's just what the hell

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is going to happen next? And every time you turn

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around there's another fucking next.

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You know, nothing, you know, just one thing after another

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after nothing helps anything.

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Yeah, there's definitely, you know, And that was the word.

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That's how I when I stopped painting, stopped doing the show,

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I was like, yeah, what this is probably you know,

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a bad sign. And I almost crept back into it, almost,

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But yeah, I got through this tone because I noticed

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the signs and I know how miserable I was for

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a while. And now I'm like, I'm actually getting somewhere now,

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Like there's doctors, there's people, I have friends, you know,

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if people like to talk to, I have doctors. Again,

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it was really the big doctor thing, like that was

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just the most depressing part about all of this. Didn't

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like at one point it was literally there wasn't even

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anyone to reach out to for like a year and

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a half, and when they tried to send me in

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town again, couldn't get meet anyone preaching out often to

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even stop trying.

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Did you kind of feel like it didn't matter? Oh?

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Yeah, Like I felt like I was just a little insignificant,

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you know, a little bug in the world, and no

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one cared, so why should I?

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Which is probably the worst you know pit you can

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get into, in my opinion. So how'd you get back?

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I mean, was it literally just the regime change and

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the carrier you're getting that that motivated you to get

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back or did you realize I need to get my

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shit together and do the things.

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A little bit of both, Okay, a little bit of both,

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but you know what I mean, Because again I sent

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you that that one picture with, like I say, the

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picture of the swelling when I was up in like Pennsylvania.

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I want to say early January, maybe end of December, whenever.

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The hell it was, Nichs ran like a balloon. And

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the second, I mean, once I started getting the stuff

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for that, so my leg because they measured it, like

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because they send a lady, you know, the gear's the machine,

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she has to come over and show you how to

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use it. I'm like, I know how to use it,

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you know. To me, her laughed like it's amazing, how

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like it's amazing, how bout you guys are doing now?

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So suddenly she's like, yeah, it's funny how that works out,

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isn't it. We had a good but, you know, just

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getting stuff done because what I want I remember who

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it was. I think it was the chiropractice the first time,

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and that was on a small swelling day, Like my

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left leg on average was still just from the above

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knee down was on average like five inches bigger that day,

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like everywhere, and that didn't include foot, like it was

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just gigantic and it hurt and it sucked. And the

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second we started taking care of you know that that

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took you know a lot of it away.

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But yeah, and I.

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Also just think I got tired of feeling sorry for myself.

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And again there was great people, you know, like George here,

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just when are you gonna get on the mic? When

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you're gonna get on the mic? And I was like,

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when you're gonna get back on the bike. She's like,

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when you're gonna go back on a show?

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No, let a mask, Jesus, what what is with the

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two of you? And then I mean, you got a

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good thing going and you know, and I need, Yeah,

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I needed. So it's a combination of self motivation and yeah,

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you know, and that's an important thing. Look, and I

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don't I don't want to grill you a lot on this, Jesse.

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I just know that you went through a lot with this,

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and I know other veterans do. But you know, there's

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not enough people that talk about it. That's why I

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wanted to talk to you about this. It's good for

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people to hear what actually happens because a lot of

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people assume, oh no, it's they're well taken care of.

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And then there's also there's also the it's still kind

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of lingering. It's it's changed a little, but there's still

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the anti you know, anti service person support. It's like

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suck the military. Those guys. You know, I don't believe

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in what America is doing, so we don't care about them. Ridiculous.

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And there's the even worse part. There's one that's even

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worse than all of that. It's like some people I know,

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I mean, he's never going to listen to this. So

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it's like Drew and we are friends for forever until

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you suddenly he turned on CNN one day and suddenly

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I was a racist and like a lot of data

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don like, you're the one that makes jokes about making

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things making you want to slap Chinese babies last time

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I checked. Yes, that's a note. That's a bad person,

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and I'm telling you to stomp that. But suddenly I

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was the word like the Antichrist. Even though we knew

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each other for like almost thirty years at that point,

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I like whatever. But we'd have arguments where he would

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be like barking about how bad veterans got treated. But

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this is how you know he's a liberal because he

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was then also well pitching about that. We talk about

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how the government needs to take care of you know,

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everyone deserves health care through the government and let them run.

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It's okay, So you're mad because they can't take care

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of a handful of us and we get treated like dirt.

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But you think they should handle over three hundred and

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thirty million of us. Yeah, that's how you know you're

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a liberal. What they can't They're taking such bad care

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of the twelve of us that there is.

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In comparison to the country.

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But sure they can handle that. What yay? What liberals

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for dummies?

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There you go?

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What the ultimate logic can't take care of ten of us,

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but Jerald's take care of three hundred and fifty million?

446
00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:14.079
Why not? Fuck it?

447
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.519
That makes sense. Yeah, that was the argument that just

448
00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:20.799
oh my god, if I didn't have so many head injuries,

449
00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:24.240
I had a head butt a wall. It turns out, yeah,

450
00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:26.519
you can only do that so many times, but it's

451
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.400
much cheaper than headbutting a stupid person. So everyone remember that.

452
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:31.640
Let's say I want to headbut something it is not

453
00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.920
a human being. Well, lawyers are expensive.

454
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:39.160
Since since you brought up, uh, liberals, that's a good

455
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:42.599
segue to get into a bit of what you do

456
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.559
with the show. But before we get it, I just

457
00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.079
I just want to point out everybody to everybody that look,

458
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.240
you know, veterans are still struggling to get care and

459
00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.480
it didn't go away, and we need more people to

460
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.640
step up and make noise about it and make sure

461
00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.720
that you know it's it's happening. It's happening for veterans

462
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.599
they shouldn't.

463
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:05.519
And I'll say at the end, it's like I keep

464
00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.200
arguing with my buddy, you know, Walter who I did

465
00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.160
episodes of Wednesdays with Walter way back fucking when, forever

466
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.880
ago before he really lost his mind when everyone called

467
00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.240
him chuck every once in a while. But he's like

468
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.480
I just quit him, not like the dude like the

469
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:24.279
second year, you like stop, Like that's one last voice

470
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:27.839
out there keeping this ship. Like he's very vocal about it.

471
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.599
He's always there doing stuff about it. Like even if

472
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.400
it feels like it's getting nowhere, what you not saying anything?

473
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:37.920
But that's one last voice saying anything about how we've

474
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.039
been treated for the last you know how X amount

475
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:44.079
of eaters I mean since Vietnam that's getting Which is

476
00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.119
why I want to make a T shirt that says,

477
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:49.720
like the VA killing who the d D couldn't since

478
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.119
in whatever fucking year they were born. I would wear

479
00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:53.720
the shit out of that shirt. I wear it into

480
00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.480
the VA every time I walked in there the VA,

481
00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:00.599
finishing the d d's job since they don't give a

482
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.799
damn batutas. But uh yeah, like you got to just

483
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.119
if you're out there near veteran, you got to keep

484
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.559
it up. But you got to keep telling people don't

485
00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.079
give up, no matter how much of a headache it is,

486
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:16.160
because every voice lost it just makes it easier for

487
00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:20.279
them to keep just running through us like we don't matter,

488
00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:26.480
and that that doesn't fix a goddamn thing at all.

489
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:31.759
So don't lose faith. It's hard, God knows it's hard,

490
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.160
but don't do it. Please, for the love of God,

491
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:41.200
don't do it. Every voice matters, you matter. Don't let

492
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.440
the pricks off that easy. I approve said.

493
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:52.160
Message important message. Yeah all right, Well, with that being said,

494
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.680
that was a little heavy, but you know what it

495
00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:57.680
needed to be discussed. Glad you're back. So now let's

496
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:02.960
get into the fun stuff that you do. Oh shit,

497
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.200
I don't even know where to begin. Hey, listen, I've

498
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:09.839
been doing. I've been doing so much with guest interviews

499
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.519
lately for my show, and a lot of it has

500
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.759
been based on geopolitics and a lot of discussion about Islam,

501
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:17.599
So I we're not going to get into that, to

502
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:18.759
be quite honest, Jesse.

503
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:23.680
Those were those were good shorts though, fantastic, those are fantasts.

504
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:26.960
I'm gonna try to avoid that conversation with you because

505
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.519
you're going to bring me back to domestic what's going

506
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.039
on domestically here in the US, which I haven't had

507
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.079
time to concentrate on anymore, just because I've been so

508
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:38.240
engrossed in what's going on and you know, the world overseas.

509
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.119
For whatever reason, it's just that's how it went. But

510
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.880
you're the guy that has no problem telling people how

511
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.279
it is. Not just tell him how it is, but why, Like,51200:25:48.359 --> 00:25:51.000



here's the facts behind this. Let's not conflate shit, let's51300:25:51.000 --> 00:25:54.720



not try to sugarcoat it. Here's the reality. I don't51400:25:54.759 --> 00:25:56.319



even know where to begin, but you've been you've been51500:25:56.359 --> 00:25:58.240



on a tear lately with your with your show, which51600:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.480



I like, well, actually I know where to begin. Let's51700:26:01.480 --> 00:26:05.799



do this as you're a Trump supporter, right and I51800:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.640



want to get your assessment on what's going on right now.51900:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.920



Everybody is kind of holding his feet to the fire52000:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.160



for the Epstein debackle, and now there's a big push52100:26:15.160 --> 00:26:19.519



by the Democrat Party, the leftist to basically try to52200:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.440



drive home that he's on the list, he's a pedophile52300:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.799



on this is the only reason that nothing's happening and52400:26:24.839 --> 00:26:28.000



there's no list being released, but completely also ignoring the52500:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.799



fact that there was a nearly two decade investigation into Epstein.52600:26:32.200 --> 00:26:36.200



Josey Maxwell was arrested because of evidence that she was52700:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.000



involved in what was going on, and beyond that, she52800:26:40.279 --> 00:26:45.799



was the one finding underaged people girls to send to Epstein.52900:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.759



So they have this connection and all this evidence that53000:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.400



they suddenly don't have that The Democrat Party for all53100:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.480



these years, could have pushed that Trump, being such a53200:26:54.519 --> 00:26:57.519



major figure, whether he was in politics or not, was53300:26:57.559 --> 00:27:01.319



always a popular billionaire at any given time, they could53400:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.720



have pulled the plug on this right Why now, Like53500:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.160



what's going on and what's what this rift going on53600:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.000



with the so called MAGA side of things? And you know,53700:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.079



we'll get into MAGA later because I think people are53800:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.039



getting away from what MAGA actually meant. It's not everybody53900:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.319



thinks it's just Trump. Well he coined the term, so54000:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.000



that's what it is. But I believe represents, you know,54100:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.359



something bigger, but regardless. I mean, let's get your thoughts54200:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.000



on this Epstein debacle light where do you stand and54300:27:29.119 --> 00:27:30.720



or what do you know and what do you think54400:27:30.759 --> 00:27:30.960



on this?54500:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.920



That's why I haven't talked about it online. Granted, there's54600:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.200



a theory behind it everybody, but I'm not trying to54700:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.079



avoid it because I think he's on the list. I'm54800:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.279



not trying to do any of that. It's a very54900:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.240



simple theory. Thankfully, I figured he would bring this up.55000:27:45.920 --> 00:27:50.839



I was just waiting, and I think I told something.55100:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.799



If you ask, I've told people. But it's a very55200:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.039



simple but confusing thing. As complicated I should say, is55300:27:58.039 --> 00:28:02.799



why I don't, you know, talk about it? Okay, one,55400:28:03.640 --> 00:28:04.960



get it out of the way. If he was on it,55500:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.880



we would have known. So let's stop that argument. Already55600:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.599



they've proven that they're just slimy, shitty people, and if55700:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.839



they got them, they would have got them already. There55800:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.400



would have been the gotcha two.55900:28:19.359 --> 00:28:19.680



We know?56000:28:20.319 --> 00:28:24.559



I mean I think that the flight logs you know,56100:28:24.680 --> 00:28:26.680



and all that you know who went here, there and everywhere.56200:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.920



You know, just because you were on his plane doesn't56300:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.759



mean you were necessarily because he did have normal business things.56400:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.319



You know that he did not just being you know,56500:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.359



a fucking creep, a maximum creep.56600:28:38.920 --> 00:28:39.079



You know.56700:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.480



So there's going to be people that I think, you know,56800:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.400



that are on the logs that you would just get56900:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.079



freight trained when they literally had nothing to do with57000:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.319



the creepiness, but their name would be out there forever,57100:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.519



and I think that would ruin you a lot of57200:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.400



innison people's lives. And again to everyone that said, you're57300:28:54.400 --> 00:28:55.799



just saying that because of Trump, No, if he's on57400:28:55.839 --> 00:28:57.880



the thing, fuck them, get them. But I think there's57500:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.519



a lot of people that you know, weren't involve any57600:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.599



of it, that we know had business dealings with him,57700:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.599



you know, outside of his creepiness, that would get you know,57800:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.400



thrown up into the stupidity of it all. No matter what,57900:29:08.440 --> 00:29:13.000



you're ruined just because everyone's been on yeah, him being58000:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.079



like those paintings behind me, they're not going to hang58100:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.640



themselves anyway.58200:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.519



Haven't heard that one in a while. But like so,58300:29:20.559 --> 00:29:22.720



I think that's a big, you know, part of it.58400:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.799



I think that, I mean, we've all heard the speculation,58500:29:27.960 --> 00:29:29.920



all that you've heard of mean, we all heard rumors58600:29:29.960 --> 00:29:34.240



of you know, people that were involved, you know, from celebrities, athletes,58700:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.960



business people, fucking royalty overseas like all of that. I58800:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.960



think there's so many moving pieces, you know, in big58900:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.279



names out there. I'm sure there's giant names out there,59000:29:45.759 --> 00:29:50.839



you know that we'd never hear, like the whole thing anyway,59100:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.079



it's one of those will know, but we'll never I59200:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.480



just don't think they'll ever, you know, if there's really59300:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.640



royalty from overseas and princes and all like, we're never59400:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.640



going to see, you know, the whole entire thing. People59500:30:01.759 --> 00:30:03.440



like heads will actually explode.59600:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.359



Is that right there? Jesse was a big theory of59700:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.839



mine as to why to me theory we're talking theory59800:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.319



right because we obviously can only prove what we know59900:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.839



or what's been released. But the theory I had was60000:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.240



similar to what you're saying. I think I think there60100:30:20.240 --> 00:30:25.079



were world leaders deep into this shit and they haven't60200:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.039



moved forward with exposing anything to the degree that America's60300:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.119



looking The American people are looking for because it can60400:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.640



really up and geopolitical connections and relationships throughout the world.60500:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.680



But would you agree that if that is the case,60600:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.000



say like fuck it, Like is it not time for60700:30:43.039 --> 00:30:45.160



a reset and to hold people's feet to the fire.60800:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.440



And punish them for all of this, all this heinous60900:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.000



you know, all these kindness acts.61000:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.000



That's on That's what's on my back end, like what61100:30:53.119 --> 00:30:54.119



I'm hoping.61200:30:55.319 --> 00:30:55.640



People.61300:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.119



Again, it's just a theory, but this is what happens61400:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.359



when I sit around night and I'm building the website,61500:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.759



and I'm just like and I have those weird thoughts.61600:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.359



But you know, he came out and said that, you know,61700:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.200



he had it, ham BONDI said, now all the files61800:31:12.200 --> 00:31:12.839



were on her death.61900:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.599



Oh yeah, thousands, thousands of hours of video, remember all.62000:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.720



Of that, like was there, and now they're saying there62100:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.920



was nothing. My hope is that it's a game of chess,62200:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.759



not checkers. So he comes out, he says they have nothing,62300:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.200



which now has Nancy and all of them throwing up62400:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.279



all kinds of you. The Republicans say there's nothing, and62500:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.279



we went on recess for the summer, right like they're62600:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.119



gone right now right. The Democrats close here throwing up62700:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.640



bills to say we have don't know what's happening. You know,62800:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.720



Maxwell has to come and testify and all that, and62900:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.720



they finally get him so strung up that he's like, fine.63000:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.680



Fuck it, and he releases it. All of it. But63100:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.319



isn't it funny they were against Maxwell testifying for so63200:31:53.400 --> 00:31:54.839



long and now all of a sudden they want her63300:31:54.839 --> 00:31:55.759



on the stand. Yeah.63400:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.359



Like I hoping that he's just like came out and63500:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.119



said it was nothing, which then turned all of the63600:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.839



people that they've turned into just fucking robots.63700:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.200



I think that's kill kill them, kill them.63800:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.000



They have to get it, so then they pass all63900:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.759



these bills. It has to get you put out there.64000:32:10.759 --> 00:32:12.720



And he's like, fine, fuck it, here you go, and64100:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.359



then he uses it as the way to you know, Barry,64200:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.000



I mean, do you think it's all of them that64300:32:17.039 --> 00:32:17.480



deserves it?64400:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.680



Do you think they're that simple minded though, that they're64500:32:19.720 --> 00:32:21.119



manipulated so easily.64600:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.759



I have one more word for everybody. Afghanistan or here64700:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.880



or Here's one. Very fine people on both sides. It's64800:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.920



just even though there's like a you don't want to64900:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.160



be second speech around them.65000:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.400



Yeah, but we don't want to believe elected officials are65100:32:41.519 --> 00:32:42.519



that easily.65200:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.160



Russia, Russia, Russia borders closed.65300:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.480



Jack Bleach, all right, fine, I get it.65400:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.319



I mean you can get I mean, these people are65500:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.000



Jesus Christ. Remember when there was allegedly, you know, Russia65600:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.640



allegedly had hits out on our troops in Afghanistan. Nothing confirmed.65700:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.680



I still haven't seen anything confirmed. But guess what, the65800:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.279



second they heard it, they ran with it because he65900:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.279



was terrible and why is he doing this? I'm like,66000:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.000



you know all you people do by running the sun,66100:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.079



and then they believed it and I got yelled at66200:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.440



for it, like it don't like Christ, Like yes, what66300:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.559



if they were doing it now, it's probably worse for66400:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.279



us with the troops over there, And if they weren't66500:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.640



doing it, it's still bad for the people over there,66600:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.440



Like you stupid fucks, don't they don't think. They just66700:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.920



hear and they and they just have to go and66800:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.720



go and go, just like they're saying birthright, like Trump's66900:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.240



kids have to go. Because Malonnia wasn't a pseudoiciden, it's67000:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.559



like he still was done, done done.67100:33:39.680 --> 00:33:40.279



May I get it?67200:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.079



I mean stupid, Okay, you don't like to call people stupid,67300:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.200



But so after this many years, the thing, the.67400:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.519



Thing with the Maxwell case that gets me is, I mean,67500:33:51.559 --> 00:33:57.680



that's that is the biggest piece of confirmation that everyone67600:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.880



has that that they're ignoring. She's not being held for67700:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.680



just being a fucking pimp for this long. That's I mean,67800:34:07.240 --> 00:34:12.079



she was convicted of assisting in trafficking fucking miners connected67900:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.320



to who who is her boss? Epstein? How does that?68000:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.199



How does that trail suddenly run cold? How can you68100:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.039



say there's no list or any other names associated with68200:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.480



It's like, who were his fucking clients? They weren't gathering them,68300:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.960



and they didn't run a business, which is what they68400:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.239



were doing. As as shady and bad as it was,68500:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.159



Jesse abhorrent, they weren't doing it for nothing if they68600:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.360



didn't have fucking clients. And in that type of situation,68700:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.400



unfortunate people don't want to hear this. But in sex trafficking,68800:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.639



there are repeat clients, like non repeat clients. It's not68900:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.280



just random people they find on the dark web. So69000:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.360



they know your two years, not two your sorry, two69100:34:50.440 --> 00:34:55.800



decades long investigation. And suddenly it's all bullshit and and69200:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.639



it's all about, oh, well, they're not releasing because Trump's69300:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.000



on the list. Like you said, with the flight logs,69400:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.559



those have been public for years. I mean, Bill Gates69500:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.320



is on their fucking Chris Tucker, I mean, think about it.69600:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.519



There's so many people on those flight logs, but no69700:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.119



one's looking at them right, and then one more thing69800:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.880



justin then here's the other thing, because I'm sure you69900:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.599



know about this. The other thing I have to say70000:35:18.639 --> 00:35:22.840



about this is why now, all of a sudden, we70100:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.880



have all these people like now specifically now, after all70200:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.199



these years, all these people coming forward, Trump rape me,70300:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.880



Trump touched me. I'm victim number twenty seven, I'm victim70400:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.719



number thirty. Like, doesn't it all seem very theatrical and70500:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.920



organized and played very intentional?70600:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.239



Yeah, I mean everything always is by them. When I70700:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.639



say them, I mean like the whole entire control panel70800:35:48.000 --> 00:35:49.920



power of the whole entire country. I mean, the same70900:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.119



people have been in the same positions, doing the same thing,71000:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.719



and they do what they have to. They manipulate things71100:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.360



that they have to. They have the media and they say,71200:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.920



here's the talking point. And somehow or like when them71300:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.800



crats were coming out with all those spontaneous videos and71400:36:03.599 --> 00:36:08.800



somehow they were all saying the same exact thing, perfect tempo, perfectly.71500:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.239



They were all, it's all you know thing, but again her,71600:36:13.000 --> 00:36:14.960



you know her, and the client list goes into my71700:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.639



big you know thing because you know, they got it71800:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.119



for trafficking et cetera, et cetera to apparently no one.71900:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.320



I'm hoping that they're just using that again. What my72000:36:22.440 --> 00:36:26.039



dream scenario is that it's just a big game of72100:36:26.199 --> 00:36:27.840



chest to get all the idiots to be like, we72200:36:27.880 --> 00:36:33.039



need to know, and he's like, okay, but remember, I mean,72300:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.920



we also just saw a court case where did he72400:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.039



got hit for you know, traffic being people across state72500:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.199



lines for sex, but then didn't get charged with sex trafficking,72600:36:42.199 --> 00:36:42.719



which is.72700:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.880



What the fuck was that about?72800:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.599



He got so we trafficked them for sex across state lines,72900:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.639



he got charged with that, but you didn't get for73000:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.480



sex traffic, right, you know. But I think that it's73100:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.039



part of the grand I hope it's part of the73200:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.280



grand scheme of things because I heard I don't know73300:36:58.280 --> 00:37:02.679



if it's true or not, that that uh miss Maxwell73400:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.679



sat down and answered every damn question under mankind with73500:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.360



the DJ one of these days here recently. Man. I heard,73600:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.360



that'd be great if that was it, you know.73700:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.280



But as you know, what, like, are we going to73800:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.159



get that recorded conversation or anything? Are they going to73900:37:16.239 --> 00:37:17.360



let that be be known?74000:37:17.519 --> 00:37:18.800



We should?74100:37:18.000 --> 00:37:18.159



Will?74200:37:19.320 --> 00:37:23.159



We we know how this works. That's what a everyone74300:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.039



seems to be. The biggest disappointment is with Trump. With74400:37:26.079 --> 00:37:30.719



it is yeah that he is not. Again, I'm just74500:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.840



hoping that just for the grand scheme of the world74600:37:32.960 --> 00:37:34.639



is going to be the biggest game of chess and74700:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.079



the biggest gotcha of all time.74800:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.159



Be like, fine, here you go. Nobody wants to give74900:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.000



Trump that that credit though, like, oh, he's not a75000:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.960



chess but he's not that smart. Well okay, no, we75100:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.639



can argue maybe he individually isn't, but he has a75200:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.119



large team behind him, and there's some very smart people75300:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.360



in there, right, and he's Unfortunately for these people who75400:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.679



make this claim, he's repeatedly been very consistent and back75500:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.199



in these idiots into a corner and exposing their bullshit75600:38:03.320 --> 00:38:06.920



and having them play right into his schemes. Really, so75700:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.760



like they still don't get it, They still don't get it.75800:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.000



I I'm with you, though, Look, if Trump's on this list,75900:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.400



if he's truly part of this, I don't give a76000:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.519



fuck if he's Trump or not, I don't care to me.76100:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.639



If you're abusing children, man, and and and and you're76200:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.039



using them for sex and sex trafficking and making fucking76300:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.320



kittie porn, then you need to burn. I don't give76400:38:27.320 --> 00:38:28.880



a fuck who you are. I don't even care if76500:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.519



you're Trump. I don't care if you're Obama Clint. I76600:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.840



don't care. Like these people should be punished, and I76700:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.119



think straight at the execution, right, there's there's no reason76800:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.800



for these people to ruin ruin people's lives at a76900:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.119



young age and and and get to live and fucking77000:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.920



tell a story like fuck that, yeh. So I hope it's.77100:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.880



Get and just because like I mean, he's a ball77200:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.800



in the china shop now, which always like he was77300:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.440



bad the first time then you guys didn't leave alone77400:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.679



for four years and this time he knows the only77500:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.039



like he just like I only have four years left77600:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.920



and he doesn't fucking care like and look at all.77700:39:09.960 --> 00:39:15.280



I mean he's been a troll sense like like fall77800:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.280



until now, like he's going to be a king? What yeah,77900:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.159



maybe he will be a king. No King's Day everywhere, which,78000:39:23.159 --> 00:39:24.480



by the way, I hope you had a very good78100:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.760



no King's Day, which I like to call the fourth78200:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.719



of July celebt and told the king to go fuck himself.78300:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.400



It is very thank you.78400:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.519



Guys for that, and now we appreciate you celebrating it78500:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.559



with us, you're too stupid, and they were out there78600:39:38.599 --> 00:39:40.039



and they were doing it on the fourth of July,78700:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.400



having no Kings things like, you guys are actually so78800:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.519



stupid that you're celebrating the day we told the king78900:39:44.559 --> 00:39:48.400



to go fuck himself, like on the like no King's79000:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.360



Day on that day as a form of protest, even79100:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.119



though we're celebrating the fact that we told the king79200:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.039



to go fuck himself. Or you know, he's just Sinko79300:39:55.079 --> 00:39:56.840



to Mayo when you have the thing that somber like79400:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.639



he has just been trolling these people for months and79500:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.760



it immediately starts the spin machine, which is why I79600:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.239



hope that's all this is. It's just a very political79700:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.519



game of vine. Oh look what they really want me79800:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.159



to release it? Oh no, here we go. Oh gotcha?79900:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.320



Like pray to God that I mean, I don't pray hopefully.80000:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.599



That's yeah. And you know what, jesse As, they're using80100:40:18.639 --> 00:40:22.480



the whole protecting victims argument as to why this has80200:40:22.519 --> 00:40:26.079



never happened, but nobody's asking for names of victims. No,80300:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.079



we we do not need to see the tapes of80400:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.840



victims being abused or get to know who they are.80500:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.719



We're asking for the fucking people involved that we're paying80600:40:36.800 --> 00:40:41.519



and soliciting this service, whether it was with money or80700:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.960



in exchange of favors, and you know, it doesn't matter,80800:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.719



that's what we want. We don't. The excuse of protecting80900:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.679



the victims is bullshit because no one's asking for who's81000:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.800



the victim? What did they go through? Oh? Show me81100:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.119



the video? Like, no one's sick enough to fucking want81200:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.000



like that. That is so dumb. That is the stupidest81300:40:59.079 --> 00:41:00.400



argument ever to you.81400:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.039



Needs to sound wrong. Yeah when I say I don't81500:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.000



care about the victims, because I really honestly do, but81600:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.559



I don't care who they are. They want to come81700:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.599



forward and tell their story by all means, you know,81800:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.760



be I agree with you. If those things are already sealed,81900:41:15.079 --> 00:41:18.039



no one's going to find out and guess what, they're82000:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.519



very fond of that big black marker and redacting everything82100:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.800



out of everything. They can make all of that disappear82200:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.159



and just tell us who the people are. And it's82300:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.440



always a shit excuse. I do think it's funny. It's82400:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.400



the Trump and Obama thing. Yeah, Trump said something, Obama82500:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.840



responded like, guys, we're going to.82600:41:37.840 --> 00:41:41.039



Get a little bit Yeah, Yeah, that's how you know82700:41:41.119 --> 00:41:45.320



something's going on if Obama's actually responding, but there might82800:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.159



be something to it that someone might actually know.82900:41:48.239 --> 00:41:49.440



And then Obama's going, oh no.83000:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.599



Well since you brought that up, so you know the83100:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.000



argument from the other side, Jesse, He is trying to83200:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.440



tie this to Obama, right, And and they're they're saying83300:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.719



that Trump get Trump administration, not necessarily Trump himself, but83400:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.920



basically his whole administration is deflecting. Right, They're just trying83500:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.960



to distract. But what's interesting is I'm not you can83600:42:12.960 --> 00:42:14.679



correct me because I'm not sure. But as far as83700:42:14.760 --> 00:42:20.199



I know, Obama has not made any direct rebuttals or83800:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.239



comments about this. It's been his office. I haven't seen83900:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.679



a video of him directly.84000:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.159



Addressing I haven't seen him say a word. Has been84100:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.280



arrest saying stuff for him. Yeah, yeah, I don't think84200:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.320



we're actually I mean, the fact that his office responded,84300:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.679



I think says everything. Because look at all of the84400:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.199



things Team Trump and Trump has said about them. It's84500:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.519



amazing how this is the one that, you know, struck84600:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.559



the nerve suddenly for him to have to say something84700:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.880



after all of them. I mean, dude's been NonStop on84800:42:50.920 --> 00:42:54.000



these people. This is the one that struck the nerve84900:42:54.480 --> 00:42:56.920



enough that he I mean, we'll never see Obama say85000:42:56.960 --> 00:43:00.920



another word. Yeah, but his team someone and his team went,85100:43:01.000 --> 00:43:06.719



oh no, and that spoke that said enough for me85200:43:06.880 --> 00:43:08.760



is the fact that this is after all the jobs85300:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.719



they've thrown back and forth at each other, and they have,85400:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.480



you know, since Trump was running way back when, and85500:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.800



don't get me going on all that nonsense that happened85600:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.599



proven by the way, you're welcome, America, but you know85700:43:22.679 --> 00:43:24.239



the fact that this is finally one of the few85800:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.679



things that got any kind of response. I think that85900:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.119



speaks volumes. There's a word I was looking for that86000:43:29.239 --> 00:43:35.239



speaks volumes as to the whole situation in my eyes.86100:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.400



And again that's also why I don't trust, yeah, fully86200:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.679



trust any of the paperwork or any of the anything86300:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.360



that you know, no offense that it came from an86400:43:44.360 --> 00:43:50.000



intelligence agency in this country. Yeah, dear God, I met86500:43:50.000 --> 00:43:50.840



some of these people.86600:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.800



But yeah, I.86700:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.199



Mean, there's people respond there's my stance on it. That86800:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.079



tells me everything I need to know. Because anyone that86900:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.360



listens to your show, anyone that has years, they haven't87000:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.679



had much nice to say about each other. At all87100:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.159



since yeah, before he was president the first time, and.87200:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.800



It's just been Obama's always been vocal, he's always He's87300:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.599



always put a video or response. But he's been so87400:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.840



silent on this accusation. And is it really an accusation87500:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.000



or or or as you said, there's not because they87600:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.239



know that they just got caught to a degree that87700:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.840



they can't fucking explain this one away. Maybe I don't know.87800:44:30.960 --> 00:44:35.519



Oh, node, I mean that could be it just like yeah,87900:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.440



and I saw them talking more about, you know, the88000:44:38.519 --> 00:44:39.400



Russia stuff.88100:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.000



Yeah, like he hasn't.88200:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.320



He didn't even respond to that.88300:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.039



It was something. No. That's another one which.88400:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.199



Is really amazing, how like that all you know, finally,88500:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.599



I don't know why one's like it's public knowledge. Now88600:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.920



it's been fucking public knowledge. Where the like, where the88700:44:55.920 --> 00:44:56.320



fuck is?88800:44:56.440 --> 00:44:58.320



Like what fuck? Man?88900:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.719



Like we knew this back at like like even the89000:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.320



guy that investigated it for all that.89100:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.960



Whole entire and all the evidence they had against Hillary89200:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.800



Clinton's involvement, the like they got a special counsel to89300:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.320



look into it because he was apparently such a bad dude,89400:45:16.239 --> 00:45:17.360



you know, Trump with all of it.89500:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.119



And all they came up. This was Hillary paid for89600:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.239



what they like, he didn't do anything, like, he wasn't89700:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.599



in contact with any of them. Don't get me going89800:45:26.639 --> 00:45:28.599



on the servers and how they hacked into it, and89900:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.519



she had like, you know, seventeen devices, god knows how90000:45:32.519 --> 00:45:33.920



many servers and hard drugs.90100:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.119



What the fuck was she doing with her own personal90200:45:36.199 --> 00:45:40.639



servers at her house with this fucking info. I'm just saying, like,90300:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.199



and I think I heard if anything came out from this,90400:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.239



that if anything, Russia had information on Hillary that day.90500:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.880



But you know what, Jesse isn't really stirring.90600:45:52.320 --> 00:45:53.000



Is this news?90700:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.679



Is this really news for America? Like for any country90800:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.760



that outside influence is always there. They're like, there's always90900:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.199



some outside.91000:46:00.400 --> 00:46:10.199



News for I think it's news for certain parts of society,91100:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.440



like for all of us that yeah, have the ears right,91200:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.599



have like experience in life, Yeah, have left their hometown.91300:46:18.880 --> 00:46:23.320



Maybe maybe the difference here, Jesse is that the evidence Okay,91400:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.519



I think the difference here is that the Trump administration91500:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.480



he's got enough people in place, like the FBI, for example.91600:46:29.480 --> 00:46:33.079



And that's another discussion because I'm not necessarily completely impressed91700:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.639



with what's been going on there with Patel and fucking Bongino.91800:46:36.760 --> 00:46:41.000



But regardless, he's got enough of his people that he91900:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.679



trusts in place. And maybe the difference now is they92000:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.679



know that they're not going to stop digging and exposing92100:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.760



the evidence, and they don't have access anymore to bury it.92200:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.039



Maybe that's the difference this time around.92300:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.679



Well yeah, and I mean they did it to themselves. Now,92400:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.920



that's the second Trump was gone there revoked everybody's everything,92500:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.880



which no one ever did before. Immediately, I mean he92600:47:04.960 --> 00:47:06.880



even waited on some of the people to tell them92700:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.760



to kick rocks and revoke their like, like he was92800:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.119



nicer about it than you know, shit he was. He92900:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.199



didn't even well, he was in mar Lago. He quit93000:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.199



that morning. He was gone away early. But like the93100:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.360



first thing they did was revoke all of everyone's stuff93200:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.519



to be able to look at anything and do anything like, sorry,93300:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.519



well none you have access anything.93400:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.039



I agree with though no one once they're gone that93500:47:27.119 --> 00:47:31.079



should Yeah, you're no longer serving, you're no longer for93600:47:31.320 --> 00:47:31.960



you don't need it.93700:47:32.599 --> 00:47:36.519



That turns you into John Carrey flying in his private93800:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.519



jet going and trying to you know, influence things because93900:47:38.519 --> 00:47:40.440



he still has access to, you know, everything. He just94000:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.400



happens to be the first name that comes to mind,94100:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.199



But he did. He still had all the access in94200:47:44.239 --> 00:47:44.960



the world.94300:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.159



And you shouldn't. Trump.94400:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.159



You didn't get rid of all of that. Trump didn't94500:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.679



get rid of all their stuff out there, you know94600:47:49.679 --> 00:47:50.920



when he went in the first time. You know, he94700:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.159



kept the thing going, and then we all saw that Gune.94800:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.199



None of them, I don't even care when he's on94900:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.400



if they don't have a role in the government. Yeah,95000:48:03.480 --> 00:48:05.800



why the hell do you need access to none of them?95100:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.119



It doesn't matter what party you're part of or who95200:48:08.159 --> 00:48:09.320



you are, like anything.95300:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.559



Like if you're not in the government kicking rocks, it's95400:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.079



like if there's on any of us. Yeah, if any95500:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.440



of us got fired or left the job, what happens95600:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.639



right away? Your access, your email, your your your account,95700:48:20.760 --> 00:48:25.719



everything is done. You have you no longer able to participate,95800:48:26.039 --> 00:48:30.559



monitor anything anything. You're separated from that, from that company95900:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.679



to the movie The Rock with Nicholas Cage, you're on96000:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.239



need no basis.96100:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.760



Exactly and you don't need to know. So we're gonna96200:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.320



we're gonna hope that all of this. I hope, I96300:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.599



hope this whole epscene thing doesn't get drug out for96400:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.639



another you know, three years, like we're gonna wait till96500:48:46.639 --> 00:48:49.679



the end of Trump's turn, but there's rumors that things96600:48:49.679 --> 00:48:53.199



are gonna happen here really soon. Obama's response or non96700:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.800



responses is a dead giveaway, as you said, and I96800:48:55.840 --> 00:48:57.679



agree with you. I think I think that's a that's96900:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.119



a bigger issue that's being ignored because they don't have97000:49:01.159 --> 00:49:06.159



a response. They have nothing right now. And then you97100:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.400



know the whole But but we do have to discuss this.97200:49:11.079 --> 00:49:14.920



Do you believe that there's a fracture within Trump's administration97300:49:14.960 --> 00:49:20.280



because it seems like BONDI she what she says is97400:49:20.440 --> 00:49:27.559



always being contradicted by Ptel for example, and she, like97500:49:27.599 --> 00:49:32.239



you said earlier, the first the first phase, fucking binders.97600:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.599



That's another debacle. But anyway, the first phase, she has97700:49:36.639 --> 00:49:38.480



the evidence. She goes, there's thousands of hours of videos97800:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.400



that we got to go through, and there's so much picture,97900:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.119



so much of it's all my desk. It's all my desk.98000:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.079



And then Betel, oh, we don't have anything. We looked98100:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.159



into it, so hope there's nothing. There's just nothing there.98200:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.239



And then bon Gino, he killed himself, you know, the98300:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.760



biggest actor, right, all of a sudden. I'm telling you,98400:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.000



I don't know what else you want me to say?98500:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.400



He killed himself like, and now they're going to release98600:49:56.559 --> 00:50:00.320



video evidence of him killing himself when the camera is98700:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.559



conveniently didn't work at the time. So what do you98800:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.920



think is happening there? What's what is the rift and98900:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.760



separation or is it just all misdirection and meant to99000:50:10.840 --> 00:50:16.280



keep us guessing. I'm hoping it's that. I'm hoping, you know.99100:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.400



And you got to think she said there's a minute missing,99200:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.159



then they're going to release, you know, everything, get everything99300:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.159



put together after that minute, and then suddenly there's three99400:50:23.199 --> 00:50:29.199



minutes missing or something. Yeah, yeah, I think that there's Yeah,99500:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.639



between all of them, there seems to be a bigger99600:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.400



picture of something between them. I mean, but even Trump99700:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.760



has you know, said things that contradicted you know, Pam99800:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.199



Bondi has said, you know, on some things, you know,99900:50:43.239 --> 00:50:44.920



not everything. You know, he'd say one thing, she'd be100000:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.840



saying another thing. Granted he's an asshole, he doesn't care,100100:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.679



but he could be trying to misdirect everybody, pulling the100200:50:50.679 --> 00:50:59.360



gotcha just you know, But something doesn't seem copa set kosher.100300:50:59.639 --> 00:51:07.000



Perhaps that's what it's sudden, seems off of it. I100400:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.679



hope it's just mis direction. I mean I don't know100500:51:09.719 --> 00:51:14.039



what's going on in there, but yeah, apparently her relationship,100600:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.840



you know, when she was down there and going after Yeah,100700:51:17.760 --> 00:51:19.679



at Stein and I having all kinds of different Like100800:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.239



there's all kinds of stuff floating around. We've all read it,100900:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.840



we've all seen it. I just hope it's misdirection. Now101000:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.760



could it be just people lying through their teeth? I101100:51:27.760 --> 00:51:33.039



mean it's the federal government, Yeah, but obviously, especially at101200:51:33.079 --> 00:51:33.880



the DJ.101300:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.039



I'm trying to question whether or not Bondi is the101400:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.400



one lying. Yeah, you know, I don't know if she is.101500:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.559



I mean she she's the ag. Like why would she101600:51:42.679 --> 00:51:48.760



publicly the person who's directing all law enforcement right say101700:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.199



one thing and then have the FBI or other departments101800:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.719



agree with her and then go well after for the review.101900:51:55.760 --> 00:52:01.360



You know, there's really nothing. So someone's getting too pattel102000:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.440



and and you can't ignore the fucking one eighty with Patel.102100:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.599



We're gonna get in there and expose like he had102200:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.800



he had access to certain information before he was there.102300:52:11.480 --> 00:52:15.480



Now he's there, Suddenly he doesn't. Suddenly there's nothing that102400:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.960



he can do at all, Like you're the fucking director,102500:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.719



what are you talking about? And then it looks like102600:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.280



Boon Gino's just playing the part. Or I had this102700:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.119



discussion with another guest of mine and he had he102800:52:28.159 --> 00:52:32.039



made a good point about bongino I and I kind102900:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.480



of I kind of agree with him. Is that you know, look,103000:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.000



he gave up this career in podcasting, this making millions103100:52:37.039 --> 00:52:39.519



of dollars a year, one of the biggest shows there was,103200:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.960



you know, at least in the politics and space, he103300:52:43.039 --> 00:52:47.360



was huge, and then he stepped into something with his experience,103400:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.239



right you know, secret service, et cetera, and didn't realize103500:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.440



how deep it went. And now he's stuck. It's kind103600:52:53.440 --> 00:52:55.639



of like, how do I I can't how do I103700:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.360



get out of this? I don't think he can actually103800:52:58.440 --> 00:53:03.760



say what he really feels or because definitely yeah, so103900:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.360



oh yeah absolutely so. I don't think he wants to104000:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.719



fuck his relationships up, right, like his access and his104100:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.320



relationship to the administration. But at the same time, you104200:53:13.320 --> 00:53:18.000



can see the disappointment. You can see like he's like104300:53:18.800 --> 00:53:23.519



I want to say something, I know things, but I can't.104400:53:23.639 --> 00:53:26.519



Now is he under a threat? Do you think there's104500:53:26.519 --> 00:53:29.599



some kind of threat hanging over his head, and he's104600:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.639



the kind of guy that I think maybe not concerned104700:53:32.639 --> 00:53:34.960



with him in his personal safety so much as maybe104800:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.880



his family, his wife, etc. Do you think there's something104900:53:37.920 --> 00:53:39.239



like that that might be going on when it comes105000:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.880



to people like Bongino, who and and even Patel who105100:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.719



are so adamant about all the corruption and everything they're exposed,105200:53:44.719 --> 00:53:46.280



and now all of a sudden, it's like they're just105300:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.159



fucking parting the same old shit, the previous fad that105400:53:51.239 --> 00:53:52.880



goes back to you know what I said earlier.105500:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.920



You know certain players in there. Yeah, they knew it105600:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.559



was there. They knew it was there. Then they saw,105700:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.679



like you said, how deep it actually went. Yeah, and105800:54:00.800 --> 00:54:05.559



even though they know it's there. I think there's a105900:54:05.559 --> 00:54:11.360



lot of tongue biting, yeah, or like the Undertaker used106000:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.159



to say, how he kept himself from you know, not106100:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.599



breaking character. He just bite him inside of his lip106200:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.360



as hard as humanly possible just to keep that.106300:54:19.679 --> 00:54:20.559



Yeah, I think.106400:54:20.519 --> 00:54:24.960



There's I think there's yeah part that because there's no106500:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.639



way they didn't get in there and then suddenly go106600:54:26.679 --> 00:54:32.000



holy shit, yeah because the holy shit. Yeah, I think106700:54:33.840 --> 00:54:35.400



it a beets ya know what we both said. I106800:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.159



think that they stepped into a bigger pile than they imagined,106900:54:38.800 --> 00:54:40.119



and they want to say things.107000:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.880



But again, if there's people you know, royalty and you know,107100:54:43.920 --> 00:54:49.000



all these other people involved, and you know, again family safety,107200:54:49.079 --> 00:54:51.559



you know, all kinds of things that can go into107300:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.639



if you know, they exposed all of those people, you know,107400:54:53.719 --> 00:54:55.400



not at the right time, and all that that can107500:54:55.440 --> 00:54:56.039



cause you know.107600:54:57.119 --> 00:55:01.239



Irreparable harm you know to them loved one all that. Yeah,107700:55:01.519 --> 00:55:06.400



I think that's definitely part of it. But you could107800:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.119



definitely tell the dance well you're in front of don't107900:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.880



let it down on the side of the His body108000:55:14.960 --> 00:55:19.079



language is not of someone that's exactly happy with what108100:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.360



they're saying. Doesn't seem himself for sure.108200:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.800



Yeah, he's not very comfortable with his other I'm trying108300:55:24.800 --> 00:55:27.480



to give him that. I'm trying to give him that108400:55:27.480 --> 00:55:28.400



that credit.108500:55:28.159 --> 00:55:29.039



Trying to give him that much.108600:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.119



I don't want to believe that he's he's a bought108700:55:31.159 --> 00:55:35.559



and chill you know, Yeah, nobody does. But what we're108800:55:35.599 --> 00:55:43.079



seeing is complete opposite of what was right. So all right, look,108900:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.400



we beat this Epstein whatever thing up enough. We're never109000:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.519



gonna know until we know, like we're speculator.109100:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.920



When I told someone like Nomber, like, why don't you care?109200:55:52.039 --> 00:55:52.559



Like I care?109300:55:52.679 --> 00:55:57.679



But it's one of those until someone does anything, like,109400:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.280



we're only gonna know as much as we know, and109500:56:00.280 --> 00:56:03.280



there's things that are actually happening that yeah, we know109600:56:03.320 --> 00:56:07.800



about again via like we talked about you know, the economy.109700:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.079



You know, like there's all kinds of actual, real things109800:56:10.079 --> 00:56:13.599



that we know what's going on on. Right, So Epstein's109900:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.679



no offense to the world. Feel bad for the victims,110000:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.800



you know, heart goes out all of that. But until110100:56:20.320 --> 00:56:25.320



whoever decides we can actually know, No, yeah, we're never110200:56:25.360 --> 00:56:25.719



gonna know.110300:56:26.119 --> 00:56:30.079



No, I agree. I just I'm just not one to110400:56:30.480 --> 00:56:33.800



buy into the dismissal of suddenly no evidence, and so110500:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.800



I don't believe that. I don't believe that's my thing.110600:56:37.119 --> 00:56:40.079



I do agree with you. It's like I think we110700:56:40.119 --> 00:56:42.679



are ourselves right now. I think people are given too110800:56:42.800 --> 00:56:45.679



much air to this. Look, we know there's evidence, we110900:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.400



know there's a list, we know it's being worked on.111000:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.119



And this isn't a gotcha moment for Trump or the111100:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.320



Trump administration. If anything, what's coming out is a big111200:56:54.360 --> 00:56:57.840



gotcha moment for the Democrats who are in fucking charge111300:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.760



all these years. And that's not even ignore the fact111400:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.119



that during Trump's first term, who had majority of the111500:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.519



of the Congress Democrats.111600:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.559



You know, so he got impeached twice.111700:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.599



Right, So, like there's a bigger story to tell here111800:57:13.000 --> 00:57:17.079



outside of you know, the conspiracy that that people are ignoring.111900:57:17.119 --> 00:57:20.320



But you're right, like at this point, it's like everyone's112000:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.280



saying what they got to say. Everyone's getting their clicks112100:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.239



and likes and their fucking eyeballs off this thing, and112200:57:25.320 --> 00:57:28.199



it's it's time to like, you know, not forget, but112300:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.280



but let's let's let them play this out, you know,112400:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.559



let's see where it goes. Because obviously, like you said,112500:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.960



Obama's silence is a big tell in this whole thing112600:57:36.039 --> 00:57:37.320



right now, So.112700:57:38.280 --> 00:57:41.960



Don't forget, like god knows how many of our intelligence112800:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.119



agencies that we're involved in it. Somehow there's such a112900:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.639



bigger web than anyone ever thinks of on it just113000:57:48.719 --> 00:57:53.960



relationship like this thing, this thing spun a web, spunny yard,113100:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.840



I don't care what phrase you want, And it's huge113200:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.840



and if involved you know, bearing our intelligence stuff that113300:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.239



also his stuff that you know they have to do.113400:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.079



Kid gloves and make sure they have every single damn113500:58:05.159 --> 00:58:10.000



thing dotted crossed random motherfuckers through grammarly to make sure113600:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.880



that you know, like they have to, they have to,113700:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.480



you have to do it properly, because I think it's113800:58:17.679 --> 00:58:22.960



again bigger than anyone ever give credit to.113900:58:23.320 --> 00:58:25.559



And I don't trust our intelligence. So that's another story.114000:58:25.599 --> 00:58:29.920



But well, let's let's let's move on to a lighter114100:58:29.960 --> 00:58:36.559



topic that's kind of more fun. Old Bear, Good for him,114200:58:36.800 --> 00:58:44.159



Old Bear. What do you think, man? All Bear? He's114300:58:44.440 --> 00:58:50.199



so uh canceled and not coming back ever, and not114400:58:50.239 --> 00:58:55.039



just him but the show itself, so which is a shame. Yeah.114500:58:55.239 --> 00:58:57.960



I agree with a lot of history before. Yeah, a114600:58:57.960 --> 00:58:58.760



lot of the.114700:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.400



Lenno and then you know.114800:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.440



Parson, you know all of it that it had such114900:59:07.480 --> 00:59:11.360



a run when it was actually like just interviewing guests,115000:59:11.880 --> 00:59:15.480



you know it. It's just you know, whether we whether115100:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.199



we agree with these people or not. I mean, at115200:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.880



least for the most part, they they kept it fairly neutral.115300:59:21.119 --> 00:59:22.800



I mean, they always had a little bit that the115400:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.880



inflect in terms of politics, but not to the level115500:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.679



that Colbert did. And I'm not sure if that was115600:59:27.719 --> 00:59:31.639



Colbert himself or the decision of the network at the115700:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.599



time because his previous show, That's pretty much what it was, right,115800:59:34.599 --> 00:59:39.119



it was just parody and you know, sarcasm in politics,115900:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.440



and I'll admit, I mean I didn't even care he116000:59:41.480 --> 00:59:44.039



was liberal. I laughed. I thought it was funny. I mean,116100:59:44.079 --> 00:59:45.920



if if you can't see both sides and laugh, I116200:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.519



mean sorry that I can. I can do that. But116300:59:49.559 --> 00:59:54.199



when when he came over to to host, uh forgot116400:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.719



Late Show tonight. I don't even pay attention, even myself,116500:59:56.920 --> 00:59:59.519



but when he came over to host the Late Show,116601:00:01.320 --> 01:00:04.440



I think that something definitely changed. It wasn't the same. Uh,116701:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.159



he wasn't the same, or didn't appear to be. So116801:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.679



the excuse that the reason he is canceled is because116901:00:11.679 --> 01:00:15.920



of Trump is fucking ridiculous. Losing forty was it forty117001:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.920



million a year? Just oh, fifty million, somewhere between forty117101:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.119



and so as a business, if you're losing fifty million117201:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.840



dollars a year and someone punches your ticket and they say,117301:00:27.840 --> 01:00:30.880



we can't afford to do this anymore, how was that117401:00:31.519 --> 01:00:35.960



got anything to do with Trump? Like you were losing money?117501:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.719



I think it was in their second or third season, right,117601:00:38.760 --> 01:00:45.320



is when the decline started really happening. He oh what117701:00:45.440 --> 01:00:50.800



you got? Oh yes, I was waiting for this. I117801:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.320



still got my notes. It's for seved time. They were117901:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.159



just way too far away. But all right, well let's118001:00:57.159 --> 01:00:58.800



take it away. Let's take it away. You you you118101:00:58.880 --> 01:00:59.400



let us know.118201:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.119



What's up with the okay, Well, I mean if we118301:01:02.199 --> 01:01:04.320



go back to Leno between two thousand and two thousand118401:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.440



and nine, you know, five to six million average, which118501:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.960



isn't bad. You know, it's not you know, the Carson numbers,118601:01:09.960 --> 01:01:12.760



but it's still you know, good. Twenty ten to twenty fourteen,118701:01:12.800 --> 01:01:14.960



when he came back because the other guy sucks so bad,118801:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.960



three point eight to four, which was declined. His final118901:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.239



episode got fourteen point six million, which that's a hell119001:01:21.239 --> 01:01:25.000



of a number. Thenyone says, Fallon's debut, even though you119101:01:25.079 --> 01:01:27.960



know they're ten seconds apart, was down to eleven point119201:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.679



three million, just you know. Debut twenty thirteen, the average119301:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.119



was one point seven. Fallon twenty twelve was at one119401:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.639



point one to two million average. Colbert took over in119501:01:38.679 --> 01:01:40.960



twenty fifteen at three million, and since then it went119601:01:40.960 --> 01:01:44.159



to two point four. Twenty seventeen it jumped up to119701:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.599



three point two. You know, when all the non stop119801:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.199



bashing Trump and Republicans, twenty eighteen was at three point seven,119901:01:50.320 --> 01:01:53.719



we saw three point eight and twenty nineteen three point six.120001:01:54.360 --> 01:01:56.880



In twenty twenty, then they lost half a million, average120101:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.239



went down to three point one, and then they've been120201:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.320



hovering around two and a half million since twenty twenty120301:02:02.320 --> 01:02:04.360



two to include the end of around what two four120401:02:04.400 --> 01:02:05.840



we're seeing them And.120501:02:05.519 --> 01:02:08.320



In these numbers, just Survey knows you're you're you're referring120601:02:08.360 --> 01:02:09.760



to viewership.120701:02:09.599 --> 01:02:14.119



Yes, hit viewers on average, and all of those include120801:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.880



the people that recorded on their DVR and watch it120901:02:17.559 --> 01:02:18.079



right there.121001:02:18.159 --> 01:02:22.480



So they're trying to politicize a business decision, right, everything121101:02:22.599 --> 01:02:23.599



based on numbers.121201:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.280



Oh my god, Oh my god. When it happened, yeah,121301:02:27.320 --> 01:02:31.320



oh my god. I was up way too late, way121401:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.440



like I don't even remember what happened.121501:02:34.800 --> 01:02:35.000



It was.121601:02:35.960 --> 01:02:37.480



It was like four point thirty in the morning that day.121701:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.440



Like I was just going and going and going and121801:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.760



going going. I don't know, like because I got into121901:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.400



the comments and she was like, look I want and122001:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.280



I had to drive a third McDonald's because she wanted122101:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.719



to diet coke because we just went down the hole122201:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.199



and we were driving and I was just like, and122301:02:51.239 --> 01:02:58.559



it was just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, the dictator. My122401:02:58.639 --> 01:03:01.119



favorite one is I hope is rapist in chief as122501:03:01.119 --> 01:03:02.679



they called it, but I don't like to say the word,122601:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.239



but you know, it would be really fun. As the122701:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.360



Marine Corps has a group that goes over everyone social122801:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.119



media to make sure they're not doing anything stupid or122901:03:08.119 --> 01:03:11.119



post anything stupid and they get in trouble if they do.123001:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.840



He should get one of those and find every single comment,123101:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.320



every single person that said that, because if he owns it,123201:03:16.400 --> 01:03:20.360



you know, he got Stephanopoulos, you got CBS, he can123301:03:20.400 --> 01:03:25.239



get all of you and hear that he didn't actually123401:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.039



get found guilty of no, no, and then he could123501:03:30.039 --> 01:03:31.920



just own all of them. I don't like being petty,123601:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.039



but you know what, if they're going to be this123701:03:34.119 --> 01:03:37.920



petty for this long, I say bury them, because it123801:03:38.039 --> 01:03:41.719



turns out, you know, ABCNBCCBS, all of them since twenty123901:03:41.760 --> 01:03:45.159



eighteen have lost, you know, an average of four hundred124001:03:45.159 --> 01:03:48.480



and thirty nine million dollars in AD revenue combined to124101:03:48.559 --> 01:03:50.320



include his fifty.124201:03:50.239 --> 01:03:53.039



Isn't this an admission of the change though in American124301:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.880



culture and what people want, like it's me. I think124401:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.239



I think the Democrat Party is in so much show124501:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.760



because they can't acknowledge that their way of thinking and124601:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.920



their messaging is no one's buying it anymore. But when124701:04:06.960 --> 01:04:09.719



it comes when it comes to Colbert, I want to124801:04:09.800 --> 01:04:11.760



keep it about I want to keep this about business124901:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.760



for a second. Fifty million dollars, Ye, fifty million dollars here.125001:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.119



Why does a show? Why does a show like that125101:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.280



need over one hundred employees? Which is very much what125201:04:22.360 --> 01:04:24.920



you and I do. Look, it's it's a live podcast,125301:04:25.519 --> 01:04:28.800



That's what it is. Talk shows are are the precursor125401:04:28.880 --> 01:04:32.320



to podcasting. Why And at the most, you know, they125501:04:32.320 --> 01:04:34.400



have multiple camera people, I get it three If you125601:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.159



have three camera positions, greats and get different angles. But125701:04:37.199 --> 01:04:40.079



they have a guest, they have a host. Do you125801:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.440



need the band? No? But they got one? Okay, where125901:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.159



are the other employees? Do you need twenty four fucking126001:04:46.159 --> 01:04:49.480



writers for you to speak your mind and ask people questions?126101:04:49.960 --> 01:04:52.000



And most of these interviews are such shit because it's126201:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.280



like ten to fifteen minute segments and then bring in126301:04:54.320 --> 01:04:56.760



the next guy, like there's not enough time to have126401:04:56.800 --> 01:05:00.639



a real conversation anyway, So why can't they just acknowledge126501:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.239



that people have moved on. They want long form conversations126601:05:03.280 --> 01:05:04.920



so they can get to know who people really are.126701:05:05.519 --> 01:05:11.800



And they're also just absorbing media differently. I mean they're126801:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.400



looking at YouTube, they're looking at podcasts, they're looking at126901:05:14.519 --> 01:05:17.559



you know, shorts and reels on Instagram and you know127001:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.840



X for news and updates. It's they just acknowledge that, look,127101:05:22.280 --> 01:05:26.320



you need to evolve or every show like Colbert is127201:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.880



in danger of going down the same path. They they127301:05:30.920 --> 01:05:32.480



don't want to admit that. They just want to go127401:05:32.519 --> 01:05:35.880



Trump's fault. I have something to do with Trump. It's business.127501:05:35.960 --> 01:05:39.000



You guys, you've been you've been on the downward spiral127601:05:39.079 --> 01:05:39.639



for years.127701:05:40.199 --> 01:05:43.280



I mean you've lost just I mean, when we have127801:05:43.599 --> 01:05:46.199



three point six million people to you know, talk about127901:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.280



as your audience, losing a third of that, Yeah, that's128001:05:49.360 --> 01:05:54.119



huge is bad when you're running huge. And I also128101:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.079



was commenting, you know people that I did bite on128201:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.920



some of the comments. Yeah, nothing to do with the128301:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.800



forty to fifty million dollar holies continuously in that they're128401:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.920



eating because you know, it's him and like twelve people128501:06:06.960 --> 01:06:09.760



and somehow it's costing hundreds of millions of dollars to128601:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.639



even do the goddamn thing, and all they're doing the128701:06:12.679 --> 01:06:18.079



whole time is bastardizing half the country. True, Like here's128801:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.760



a good one, ye Disney, Like how good? How good128901:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.559



of the numbers worked for anybody when they've done that lately.129001:06:23.639 --> 01:06:26.159



I don't even know how even the middle what they lost,129101:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.920



They lost the you know people in the middle, you129201:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.880



know they lost all independence. Like they even went like129301:06:32.920 --> 01:06:36.400



we're done with it because it's just been NonStop and129401:06:36.440 --> 01:06:38.880



we used I think the world, most of the country129501:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.760



now at least, is finally back onto. We don't want129601:06:42.760 --> 01:06:44.800



to hear it all the time, Like these shows were129701:06:44.800 --> 01:06:48.079



here to entertain us and take our mind off of129801:06:48.119 --> 01:06:52.719



this non stop You said it, like it's not healthy. Yeah,129901:06:52.760 --> 01:06:55.480



he's not good. It's supposed to be entertain it's supposed130001:06:55.519 --> 01:06:56.199



to be an escape.130101:06:56.239 --> 01:07:03.360



Like not everybody wants to be bombarded with politicization of130201:07:03.480 --> 01:07:05.880



every single topic or politics in general. Like you and130301:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.559



I do this we can dive into, but not everybody's130401:07:08.679 --> 01:07:11.719



like us and even I, even you, we want the130501:07:11.760 --> 01:07:13.280



time to where we're just we don't want to hear130601:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.119



about it, Like I just want to watch a movie.130701:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.280



I don't I don't. I don't need the movie to130801:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.800



try to preach to me about the morality of a130901:07:20.840 --> 01:07:25.039



certain topic or subject based on a leftist view, like131001:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.519



could we just keep it about, Hey, the kids are131101:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.719



playing in the playground, they're just having fun. Do we131201:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.519



have to politicize the interaction between the kids and how131301:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.480



this person's getting left out and it's not equitable and131401:07:36.800 --> 01:07:38.960



get the fuck out of here with that? Can Can131501:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.159



we just have a little bit of an escape? Can131601:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.199



we can? We can we have a storytell or told131701:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.079



to us that doesn't have to be politicized, like even131801:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.480



the New Superman? Right, what the fuck is with that?131901:07:50.199 --> 01:07:53.679



I heard? I haven't watched it. I wasn't gonna watch132001:07:53.679 --> 01:07:54.320



it in the first time.132101:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.119



Put well, I haven't watched it either in middlely, but132201:07:56.159 --> 01:07:58.800



I've heard like you, and I've got her feedback from132301:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.800



many people that like, what the fuck? And that that132401:08:01.960 --> 01:08:03.840



right there from wanting to watch it.132501:08:04.039 --> 01:08:06.679



But I mean, look at snow White, Look well that132601:08:06.719 --> 01:08:09.320



did that was I couldn't I draw the things that132701:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.679



she said and kept saying. But it's amazing how I couldn't.132801:08:11.719 --> 01:08:13.960



I can't believe that they're dying on that hill. How132901:08:14.039 --> 01:08:18.000



much and they're still like every time tell me everyone133001:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.800



else tell him too. Every single like I'm scrolling just133101:08:21.840 --> 01:08:23.199



because you get bored.133201:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.039



And you're just yeah, yeah.133301:08:25.479 --> 01:08:27.840



And every single one that Disney Plus or any of133401:08:27.880 --> 01:08:34.000



them does is about how fantastic that mos non stock,133501:08:34.079 --> 01:08:36.760



Like they don't show anything else. That's all I see133601:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.880



is her face in that movie. I'm like dank, like133701:08:40.920 --> 01:08:47.159



Jesus for the love of Holy Hell. Terrifire Free made133801:08:47.600 --> 01:08:51.479



money at the box office just here at Home alone133901:08:51.720 --> 01:08:55.239



compared to snow White all together. You know how much134001:08:55.319 --> 01:08:57.800



money they put into one compared to the other. What134101:08:58.039 --> 01:09:02.199



I could tell you Terrifier was very minimal compared to that,134201:09:02.359 --> 01:09:05.199



And it is crazy. That tells you something. Watching art134301:09:05.359 --> 01:09:09.000



mall table was more of a selling point to the world.134401:09:09.239 --> 01:09:11.199



Taking your kids to see a snow White like that134501:09:11.600 --> 01:09:17.319



says everything. And again, look at SNL's ratings, Like if134601:09:17.319 --> 01:09:19.119



you look at all the ratings, as everyone says, it's134701:09:19.159 --> 01:09:21.600



just the ratings rating. We have the best show in134801:09:21.640 --> 01:09:25.079



the hour like yeah, trans Relations gut Feld still slaughters134901:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.960



you an hour before that. What Like it's the content135001:09:28.079 --> 01:09:29.960



because at least he brings I don't watch them. I'm135101:09:29.960 --> 01:09:31.520



just saying, at least there's some humor to it.135201:09:32.640 --> 01:09:35.079



I don't watch any of them anymore. I don't watch shit.135301:09:35.439 --> 01:09:38.439



I catch nothing, you know. Can we address this though,135401:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.159



like okay, Bolbar is saying the gloves are off? Now, Like, oh,135501:09:42.239 --> 01:09:43.600



what the fuck do they mean? We don't mean the135601:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.640



gloves are off? What do you get to do? Nothing?135701:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.119



But the reality is, if you were so concerned about135801:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.920



saving the show that you believed in, why didn't you135901:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.479



come to the table and renegotiate your fucking salary If136001:09:53.520 --> 01:09:55.920



it was that important because you were the high like136101:09:55.960 --> 01:09:58.000



you were the anchor of the show. How much money136201:09:58.039 --> 01:10:02.479



were they spending just on you? Right? I guarantee three136301:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.000



quarters of that fifty million went to him, or at136401:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.600



least half, and the rest, you know, went to running136501:10:10.640 --> 01:10:12.479



the show in some way or another.136601:10:12.640 --> 01:10:13.680



Need that much to run it?136701:10:14.279 --> 01:10:16.479



They didn't. Fuck no, you don't ye.136801:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.359



It's the uh sorry, you know NFL fans if you136901:10:20.479 --> 01:10:24.199



like the guy. But it's like the comparison between let's137001:10:24.199 --> 01:10:28.319



say Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. You know, they137101:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.039



restructured everything so they'd get it through incentives, so it137201:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.159



wasn't on the caps, so they could have players around137301:10:33.199 --> 01:10:36.119



them and keep doing good absolutely compared to let's say137401:10:36.680 --> 01:10:39.239



Aaron Rodgers. So I don't want to be the highest137501:10:39.239 --> 01:10:41.520



paid forever. And then he complains because we only get137601:10:41.560 --> 01:10:44.000



so far, we're not getting like, well, they only get137701:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.039



a certain amount of money and you're taking like a137801:10:46.079 --> 01:10:49.239



third of it on your own. There's another hole that137901:10:49.479 --> 01:10:53.560



dozens of people that have to also play. It's hard138001:10:53.600 --> 01:10:55.640



to pay you know you and then DeVante Adams and138101:10:55.640 --> 01:10:57.840



then another guy, and I mean another guy, and why138201:10:57.880 --> 01:11:00.720



don't have weapons because you get paid so much? But138301:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.880



that's it's not incentive based. You want it all guaranteed,138401:11:03.920 --> 01:11:06.439



which means there's no money to go nowhere.138501:11:06.520 --> 01:11:09.960



It's a perfect example. That's a great example of how138601:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.840



these these shows are being treated like you're the rock star,138701:11:13.880 --> 01:11:16.159



you're the quarterback. And and when you said about like138801:11:16.239 --> 01:11:17.920



Drew Brees and Brady or whatever, yeah, they had enough138901:11:17.960 --> 01:11:19.720



sense to realize that if I want the team to139001:11:19.760 --> 01:11:22.039



be built around me, that I'm going to have to139101:11:22.199 --> 01:11:25.399



give a little to make this work. And none of139201:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.119



these guys do. They're so self important that the world139301:11:29.159 --> 01:11:32.399



spins around them in their mind. Without me, you're nothing. Well,139401:11:32.439 --> 01:11:36.159



guess right, now everybody's nothing. No, no, nobody's no, nobody139501:11:36.239 --> 01:11:36.840



has a job.139601:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.720



But I am happy that they rebranded it from the139701:11:40.760 --> 01:11:43.520



Tonight Show to the Light Show because at least when139801:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.880



it went to a pile of shit, at least it139901:11:47.000 --> 01:11:48.279



wasn't well, I.140001:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.000



Mean, can't you can't, you can't. Yeah, you don't want140101:11:51.000 --> 01:11:55.359



to put a standing person's name there. But the so140201:11:55.800 --> 01:11:58.319



what's next from Internet? Is it gonna be Is it140301:11:58.359 --> 01:12:00.760



gonna be like streams on Blue Sky or something? Wherever140401:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.479



the fuck he uses? Like where is he going to go?140501:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.960



Is he good? Is he gonna continue to get the support? Like, look,140601:12:07.039 --> 01:12:11.920



look what happened to uh Don Lemon? He thought he140701:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.840



thought he was the most important talking head on seeing140801:12:15.880 --> 01:12:20.359



it went and got to deal with X through Elon Moss.140901:12:20.520 --> 01:12:22.720



He fucked that relationship up because he was too far left.141001:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.760



He couldn't realize you know that you can't bite the141101:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.319



hand that feeds you. And then he thought that on141201:12:27.359 --> 01:12:30.520



his own he was enough. And where the fuck is141301:12:30.560 --> 01:12:30.720



you know?141401:12:33.439 --> 01:12:35.880



And remember while he's married to that white dude, that141501:12:35.960 --> 01:12:37.880



white people are the devil and we're the most dangerous141601:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.000



people on the planet. Or let's go back to what141701:12:40.119 --> 01:12:42.600



was his name on Fox News Chris Wallace.141801:12:42.960 --> 01:12:45.520



Yeah, I'm the Murmers.141901:12:45.439 --> 01:12:47.399



On the Big And he went to the built CNN142001:12:47.399 --> 01:12:49.800



plus around you and it lasted literally like four days.142101:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.960



And where the hell did you go? Because you weren't142201:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.840



worth it? You guys, aren't this brew haha? A big special?142301:12:57.039 --> 01:12:59.920



You know anything? And if you're just gonna like people142401:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.119



want more? Why do you think Joe Rogan is so popular?142501:13:04.880 --> 01:13:06.359



I think because he talks to everybody.142601:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.159



I'm just gonna get exact. I was just gonna say142701:13:08.199 --> 01:13:11.000



that he doesn't care if he if he finds you interesting,142801:13:11.039 --> 01:13:13.119



you're on the show, if he thinks you might have142901:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.760



something to say with you. Yeah. And the other biggest,143001:13:16.840 --> 01:13:21.840



biggest example of this self importance, like Joy read No143101:13:21.880 --> 01:13:27.119



one cares the readout is canceled. Don't care. No, it's143201:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.479



because you're an asshole. I'm surprised Rachel Madhouse still has143301:13:30.520 --> 01:13:30.880



a show.143401:13:31.520 --> 01:13:33.359



Well, mad Coin still needs her spot.143501:13:34.119 --> 01:13:36.359



You have to have someone needs someone, right. Yeah.143601:13:36.399 --> 01:13:39.800



Well I'm lay that that Circle back Sak got shoot143701:13:39.880 --> 01:13:43.640



in by MSNBC for reruns. Oh that was great that143801:13:43.680 --> 01:13:47.000



they canceled her. What did they put in her place? Reruns?143901:13:47.159 --> 01:13:48.359



Like you're so bad?144001:13:49.159 --> 01:13:52.199



Hey, jen Saki, How okay, we want to talk about144101:13:52.199 --> 01:13:54.960



a decline? How do you go to being the greatest144201:13:55.199 --> 01:13:58.159



fucking spinster we ever seen? It didn't matter who she served,144301:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.760



what administration, she was the best. I'm sorry, it was144401:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.840



fucking great. How do you go from that to having144501:14:03.880 --> 01:14:07.039



a show where you look like you're like drunk eighty144601:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.079



percent of the time. When you heard her talk, it144701:14:09.119 --> 01:14:12.840



was like, I'm like, what happened to Jensky? What happened144801:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.479



to her? She probably did what she probably was. I mean,144901:14:16.079 --> 01:14:17.479



I'm not trying to accuse her of it, but just145001:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.279



seem that way, you know, Yeah, you gotta.145101:14:20.039 --> 01:14:21.560



Do what you gotta do to deal with being in145201:14:21.560 --> 01:14:26.159



that yeah spin zone of just just stress it again,145301:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.880



bash your head against the wall, drink a bottle of scotch.145401:14:29.960 --> 01:14:32.000



I mean, that's Nancy Pelosi, her opinion.145501:14:32.479 --> 01:14:37.720



I all right, the Scotch, Well, Scotch does have his place,145601:14:37.760 --> 01:14:41.239



I know. Listen, so the whole Colbert thing, everybody had145701:14:41.279 --> 01:14:43.560



a melt down. I think the world needs to move on.145801:14:43.600 --> 01:14:46.000



I think, well most of the world did. He's trying145901:14:46.000 --> 01:14:49.439



to hang on to his his uh, you know, his146001:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.439



own vision of his self importance.146101:14:51.560 --> 01:14:52.680



We'll start a podcast.146201:14:52.840 --> 01:14:55.000



Yeah exactly. I mean that that's what these guys are146301:14:55.000 --> 01:14:57.800



going to do, and you know, hey, good luck to him.146401:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.680



But I think this is just a a mission to146501:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.399



something that has been going on, that that you know,146601:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.039



the left has been ignoring for so long, and that146701:15:06.279 --> 01:15:09.279



is America no longer sees it the way you do.146801:15:09.880 --> 01:15:11.600



I'm not saying that they're not going to ever have146901:15:11.600 --> 01:15:13.640



someone that agrees with them, because you know, there's always147001:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.439



more than you know, one viewpoint one in more than147101:15:16.479 --> 01:15:18.159



one side to the story. But at the same time147201:15:19.159 --> 01:15:23.680



they're there, they can't come to the reality that they're147301:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.680



they're losing it. And the Democrat Party in and of itself,147401:15:26.880 --> 01:15:29.159



I'm not saying Colbert's part of the party, but it147501:15:29.239 --> 01:15:33.520



was a fucking, very very liberal show. Let's not ignore147601:15:33.600 --> 01:15:38.680



that their mouth pieces absolutely and and the Democrat Party147701:15:38.720 --> 01:15:40.479



now is so fractured they don't even have a leader.147801:15:40.560 --> 01:15:43.279



Who is next Who's going to be the presidential nominee? Like,147901:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.720



what's going to happen AOC, isn't it? Jasmine Crockett is148001:15:48.479 --> 01:15:53.239



forget that racist piece of ship, and who do we148101:15:53.319 --> 01:15:56.960



have who? Who? Gavin Newsom is doing his tour, that148201:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.920



guy is horrible. I mean, fuck the appearance he just148301:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.000



had on Sean Ryan. I mean, to be honest, Sean148401:16:02.039 --> 01:16:04.800



Ryan fucking softball. That whole thing didn't really press him148501:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.239



for anything, even though there's tons of facts and data148601:16:07.239 --> 01:16:09.319



that he Sean Ryan's supposed to be known for bringing148701:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.119



it out of people. I didn't see any of that.148801:16:11.479 --> 01:16:14.239



I don't know what that was about. That shouldn't even148901:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.720



have been I'm sorry, but I don't know what that was.149001:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.640



But Newsome's on this tour and he's a governor. He149101:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.760



shouldn't be in North Carolina, he shouldn't be in Texas,149201:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.520



shouldn't be anywhere doing you know, media opportunities with with149301:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.920



anybody when he has a complete state that he's letting149401:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.039



fall apart and can't even keep together. But wants to149501:16:34.039 --> 01:16:35.840



convince the rest of the world of how greedy is149601:16:35.840 --> 01:16:38.039



for the rest of the United States anyway, So he'd149701:16:38.039 --> 01:16:41.079



be a hell of a choice, though it's not gonna happen.149801:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.279



I don't know. I already have a talbot, I know,149901:16:44.359 --> 01:16:48.439



but yeah, don't worry, there are enough of us. He's150001:16:48.439 --> 01:16:50.159



a silver tongue guy about just how.150101:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.039



Much he fucking sucks that we'd be okay with that one,150201:16:54.079 --> 01:16:59.159



because there's no saving him wildfires you COVID French laundry. Yeah.150301:16:59.239 --> 01:17:04.199



Well, my theory is he's doing this to become the guy.150401:17:04.920 --> 01:17:08.199



Like I think he's trying to get enough recognition across150501:17:08.239 --> 01:17:13.039



the United States and with other Democrats that he will150601:17:13.079 --> 01:17:15.079



be the guy that will be able to carry weight150701:17:15.119 --> 01:17:18.359



when he says I endorse this person. I think that's150801:17:18.359 --> 01:17:20.319



what he's going for. I think he's I think he's150901:17:20.359 --> 01:17:22.960



trying to build himself up to be one of the151001:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.199



fact the leaders of the party, just like Obama was151101:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.720



for so many years, right, nobody cared about Obama. I151201:17:27.760 --> 01:17:29.359



mean he was out, he was, but but when he151301:17:29.399 --> 01:17:31.640



when he said I endorse this or he gives a speech,151401:17:31.680 --> 01:17:34.439



all of a sudden, everybody pays. I think that's what151501:17:34.560 --> 01:17:36.199



Newsom's trying to do. I don't know if he's actually151601:17:36.199 --> 01:17:37.319



going to go for the president. I think he's just151701:17:37.319 --> 01:17:38.720



trying to be the guy. I think he's trying to151801:17:38.760 --> 01:17:42.880



be the the the guiding light of the Democrat Party151901:17:42.920 --> 01:17:46.079



so that whatever he says, whatever happens, it carries weight152001:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.520



and he has influence. My theory is.152101:17:50.199 --> 01:17:54.760



Great if he ran yeah, never snowflakes. Chance like there's152201:17:54.880 --> 01:17:57.920



enough of us that know he lives rent free. And152301:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.720



I just know this slime ball when I see a152401:17:59.720 --> 01:18:04.600



slide ball, and uh, it'd be nice. But again, I152501:18:04.600 --> 01:18:06.479



don't know who they're gonna have run. I saw what152601:18:06.880 --> 01:18:10.479



was it, Krasenstein whatever he pronounced his last name, and152701:18:10.520 --> 01:18:13.119



his brother talking about how we were afraid and we152801:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.000



wouldn't know what to do with ourselves as AOC and152901:18:15.079 --> 01:18:17.600



Jasmine Crockett ran twenty twenty. I'm like, yeah, we would153001:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.439



what that would be Jesus crow, But they thought they153101:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.479



lost the independence with Kamala. You put those two shining153201:18:24.520 --> 01:18:26.880



stars up there, like Jesus Christ.153301:18:27.119 --> 01:18:29.039



I don't I don't even think they could stand each153401:18:29.079 --> 01:18:30.680



other enough to campaign together.153501:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.279



Be like ten millions. Oh my god, I think of153601:18:34.359 --> 01:18:38.079



our sentages. We would we would get like that eighty153701:18:38.119 --> 01:18:39.159



one million that we all want.153801:18:39.159 --> 01:18:41.520



How the hell did he get that? I mean, I153901:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.760



don't even think they aligned Jesse, honestly, I don't, But.154001:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.720



Jesus, I mean it's coming from Crescent Side so or154101:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.600



whatever his last That guy sucks him, met his brother,154201:18:50.720 --> 01:18:52.319



All of them, they just look like the beaches. But154301:18:52.920 --> 01:18:57.039



once they said that, I was like, like, dude, Jesus Christ, like,154401:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.279



whoever's paying you? What appointment in my direction?154501:18:59.399 --> 01:18:59.439



What?154601:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.319



I'm not going to be stupid like you, but take154701:19:03.359 --> 01:19:03.800



the money.154801:19:04.520 --> 01:19:04.880



Holy.154901:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.239



They don't have anyone. They just have speeches and Corey155001:19:09.239 --> 01:19:12.960



Booker running his suckhole. And I mean, have him run155101:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.840



against Corey Booker. Everyone hates Corey Booker. What do you.155201:19:18.840 --> 01:19:22.159



What do you think about this third party option that155301:19:22.159 --> 01:19:24.319



Elon's trying to push.155401:19:24.520 --> 01:19:26.680



I think Elon needs to stay in his lane and155501:19:26.680 --> 01:19:27.079



shut the.155601:19:27.000 --> 01:19:32.319



Fuck up, all right, I mean think about.155701:19:32.079 --> 01:19:36.359



It, because we all have you know, cognitive thinking abilities,155801:19:36.399 --> 01:19:40.239



you know, critical thinking skills. No matter what, the people155901:19:40.279 --> 01:19:44.119



that still voted for Kamala are still going to vote156001:19:44.119 --> 01:19:46.920



that way. There's no saving It doesn't matter what the156101:19:46.920 --> 01:19:52.880



hell we do, Orange Godzilla, Hitler bad. Yeah, no matter what.156201:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.840



And if we got another party, all that would do156301:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.079



is take votes away from the Republicans. The Democrats are156401:19:59.119 --> 01:20:02.199



voting Democrat no matter except for that. You know four156501:20:02.239 --> 01:20:06.600



million people that suddenly fucking vanished, that came out of156601:20:06.640 --> 01:20:08.479



nowhere in twenty twenty, and then they made him out156701:20:08.520 --> 01:20:12.960



to be even worse. But somehow they weren't there. Yeahda156801:20:13.039 --> 01:20:16.239



YadA YadA. Well, I mean it's funny. They're all about156901:20:16.239 --> 01:20:18.560



this except for that one year suddenly there's this big157001:20:18.640 --> 01:20:20.399



blip that makes no sense if you look at the157101:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.199



actual numbers per party. I have that somewhere too, but157201:20:23.239 --> 01:20:25.079



it's not in that notebook, so I'm not digging.157301:20:25.479 --> 01:20:28.319



Also, okay, but I mean I want you to give157401:20:28.359 --> 01:20:30.359



everything away on my show. I mean, you have episodes157501:20:30.399 --> 01:20:32.199



to do and release, so I mean I would just157601:20:32.279 --> 01:20:34.640



encourage people to listen to you and and and God157701:20:34.720 --> 01:20:35.560



did a deeper dive.157801:20:36.239 --> 01:20:39.000



Yeah, and it would take it would take away from157901:20:39.039 --> 01:20:41.880



the Republicans. That's all another party would do because Democrats,158001:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.239



the lefties are going to vote lefty. So I mean,158101:20:44.319 --> 01:20:48.199



look at Pennsylvania. They had a dead guy on the ballot, right,158201:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.079



and that died like what two weeks before the thing,158301:20:51.199 --> 01:20:53.399



and he still won because they were too lazy to158401:20:53.399 --> 01:20:55.399



take his name off the ballot and put someone else158501:20:55.520 --> 01:20:58.159



just on there, like they voted for a dead person.158601:20:58.199 --> 01:20:59.960



That proves the point. It doesn't prove the point.158701:21:00.039 --> 01:21:03.039



And that proves the problem with with with with with voters,158801:21:03.239 --> 01:21:06.119



in the education that voters have, they just they just158901:21:06.159 --> 01:21:08.439



look at the ballot and go, oh, I recognize that name,159001:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.159



and they're Democrat or the Republican. And that's why I'm159101:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.520



going to check off, Like you might want to look159201:21:13.520 --> 01:21:14.720



into the candidates a bit.159301:21:15.680 --> 01:21:20.159



But doesn't matter. So a third party in the American Party,159401:21:20.199 --> 01:21:22.840



whatever the hell he wants to call it, it's just159501:21:22.880 --> 01:21:23.640



going to take away.159601:21:23.960 --> 01:21:26.520



And you agree though, that we do need more options159701:21:26.520 --> 01:21:27.760



and diversity in our choices.159801:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.640



We need we need to revamp the whole entire thing.159901:21:31.680 --> 01:21:35.640



I mean, there's been too many lease, you know, who's160001:21:35.680 --> 01:21:39.840



they know best worst case scenario? You know, shall we160101:21:39.880 --> 01:21:42.039



say absolutely that is? I think it needs to be160201:21:42.159 --> 01:21:46.199



completely redone. There's other things I don't like, like, let's160301:21:46.199 --> 01:21:51.039



say twenty twenty example, because I don't know the Pennsylvania160401:21:51.079 --> 01:21:53.119



map from twenty twenty four in my head, even though160501:21:53.119 --> 01:21:55.119



I'm pretty sure all the same counties that were blue160601:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.199



were still blue. He just happened to turn some of160701:21:57.199 --> 01:22:00.159



the more purple. So he won the state. But you know,160801:22:00.520 --> 01:22:04.840



Philly and you know that one right there, Chester count160901:22:04.880 --> 01:22:08.159



with those two are out there, Pittsburgh and then the161001:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.840



dumbasses in Lackawanna County. So I find i'd Scranton has161101:22:11.840 --> 01:22:14.039



fall in the complete and utter disarray place, you know,161201:22:14.079 --> 01:22:15.640



where near what it used to be. What the hell161301:22:15.640 --> 01:22:18.279



do I know? I was only there? Yeah, those four161401:22:19.319 --> 01:22:22.640



were Yeah, three, we're the counties that Joe won. And161501:22:22.680 --> 01:22:25.239



then joke up the whole state and they say, well,161601:22:25.920 --> 01:22:27.680



you know, it's not only the rich people, like the161701:22:27.720 --> 01:22:29.319



people that can afford to live in the big cities161801:22:29.359 --> 01:22:33.319



where the population is that matter make all the choices161901:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.600



for the ninety seven percent rural state.162001:22:36.600 --> 01:22:38.600



Oh, that's also the problem of California.162101:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.640



Yeah, like, you know, I was just talking about that162201:22:41.640 --> 01:22:43.840



with Hannah. Yeah, was like, but there has to be162301:22:43.880 --> 01:22:45.479



I mean, I don't want to say that there has162401:22:45.520 --> 01:22:49.880



to be a better way, but like someone shouldn't just win,162501:22:50.039 --> 01:22:53.199



like the two major cities in the state, lose the162601:22:53.239 --> 01:22:55.479



rest of it and then win just because there's more162701:22:55.520 --> 01:22:57.359



people that live there than the rest of the state.162801:22:57.359 --> 01:22:59.319



But those are the people that can afford to live there,162901:22:59.399 --> 01:23:01.479



you know, spend that kind of you know, I mean,163001:23:01.560 --> 01:23:03.479



have you seen the price of living in Philly. It's163101:23:03.520 --> 01:23:05.760



not really the cheapest thing on the planet, But people163201:23:05.800 --> 01:23:08.279



that can afford to be there, and beyond that, the163301:23:08.279 --> 01:23:10.279



sports teams are beyond that.163401:23:10.960 --> 01:23:13.000



I want to circle back to which said earlier because163501:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.359



the problem we have currently, you know, we have a163601:23:17.359 --> 01:23:20.479



two party system, regardless technically we have more, but nobody163701:23:20.520 --> 01:23:24.319



else has the money, nobody else has the power, and163801:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.680



it always comes down to, like you you just said earlier,163901:23:29.279 --> 01:23:31.720



the lesser of two evils, like, oh, well, these are164001:23:31.960 --> 01:23:35.000



the best options we have based on but they're not164101:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.399



the best options all the time. They're just the only164201:23:37.439 --> 01:23:39.239



two given the opportunity to vote on.164301:23:40.119 --> 01:23:43.720



Yeah, North Carolina prove that in the governor race, because164401:23:43.720 --> 01:23:45.520



I'm sure you didn't. I mean, you don't get to164501:23:45.520 --> 01:23:46.680



see our ads here.164601:23:46.800 --> 01:23:48.640



I think. I think Kamala was was one of the164701:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.800



biggest affirmations of that, Like of everybody in the d164801:23:51.960 --> 01:23:53.920



n C, everybody that part of that, part of that164901:23:54.079 --> 01:23:56.199



was the person that was a person who chose to165001:23:56.199 --> 01:23:57.159



replaced fucking Biden.165101:23:57.399 --> 01:24:00.600



Well, we all know why she was picked. I'm not165201:24:00.880 --> 01:24:03.319



trying to pull They're trying to pull the two cards,165301:24:03.319 --> 01:24:05.199



which is why she didn't even make an out of like, yeah,165401:24:05.199 --> 01:24:09.199



the two cards being two cards. They're like, well, let's165501:24:09.199 --> 01:24:12.760



just say it. They were playing on race and gender period.165601:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.479



Woman president is black president, and that's what the whole165701:24:16.520 --> 01:24:20.760



thing was about. But people proved that they want more165801:24:20.880 --> 01:24:24.359



than just identity politics, like they want substance. They want165901:24:24.399 --> 01:24:28.279



to know their track record that you're bringing with you166001:24:28.920 --> 01:24:31.800



actually is going to apply to put an American people166101:24:31.960 --> 01:24:36.000



first before party politics. And regardless of what people say166201:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.640



about Trump, that's what he was offering, whether you agree166301:24:38.640 --> 01:24:41.600



with them or not. He represented those people that were166401:24:41.640 --> 01:24:45.079



tired of the bullshit and that's why he got elected.166501:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.479



And that's that's why the Democrats fought so hard to166601:24:49.560 --> 01:24:51.720



keep RFK on the ballot because they knew that would166701:24:51.720 --> 01:24:52.800



pull votes away from.166801:24:52.680 --> 01:24:56.520



Trump, right even though he backed out, which that's another thing,166901:24:56.640 --> 01:25:00.119



like what the fuck? He literally said, I vacate, I167001:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.319



am not running, but they wanted.167101:25:02.159 --> 01:25:04.359



To keep him on the ticket, and the Democrats went167201:25:04.399 --> 01:25:07.079



to court tried to keep him on. But that comes167301:25:07.079 --> 01:25:09.199



back to North Carolina too. That was the perfect one,167401:25:09.640 --> 01:25:12.600



you know, because we had Josh Stein who was the Democrat.167501:25:13.000 --> 01:25:17.239



Don't remember anything about his ads. We had seemed like167601:25:17.279 --> 01:25:19.159



a good enough guy whatever I mean, they all seem167701:25:19.239 --> 01:25:21.520



like good enough guy. It's and ads. But the person167801:25:21.560 --> 01:25:24.319



that we picked, the Republican Party in the state picked167901:25:24.359 --> 01:25:27.720



was Mark Robinson. And literally the Democrats all they ran168001:25:27.800 --> 01:25:30.800



the whole time was him talking about yeah, reproductive rights,168101:25:31.399 --> 01:25:33.680



you know, abortion stuff, and his exact word, it just168201:25:33.720 --> 01:25:36.920



played for months, was just because you decided you couldn't168301:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.520



keep your skirt down doesn't mean that you need to168401:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.039



have an abortion. And we're all going like, like, you168501:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.479



guys like on the floor North Carolina. I'm like, so168601:25:44.520 --> 01:25:46.279



he said that in front of everyone and their mother.168701:25:46.840 --> 01:25:48.640



You knew he said it, you knew there was a168801:25:48.800 --> 01:25:51.800



video of it, and this was still the best choice168901:25:51.840 --> 01:25:53.159



the Republicans could come up with.169001:25:53.239 --> 01:25:55.720



But all they had to do was run him saying.169101:25:55.399 --> 01:25:58.399



That, and the other guy won. I again, I'm here.169201:25:59.119 --> 01:26:02.439



I'm stuck when watching racing or anything during those times169301:26:02.439 --> 01:26:05.359



where I have to see those ads NonStop, I couldn't169401:26:05.359 --> 01:26:08.560



tell you anything about Justin just went hey, this guy169501:26:08.840 --> 01:26:11.439



and they played that sound bite, that video and he169601:26:11.560 --> 01:26:13.279



lost because of it. I'm like, you knew he said,169701:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.079



you knew that was a big issue, and that's still169801:26:16.359 --> 01:26:19.119



like the best thing you guys could come up with.169901:26:19.159 --> 01:26:21.319



Was like, we deserve to lose North Carolina to the governor.170001:26:21.399 --> 01:26:25.439



Like if that's like the best option we had, we170101:26:25.560 --> 01:26:28.760



have a big problem overall, because I know he wasn't170201:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.000



the only option we had, and you knew the video existed.170301:26:31.079 --> 01:26:32.920



And again it was bad to be the lesser of170401:26:33.439 --> 01:26:37.000



even Republicans, some of them like well him saying that170501:26:37.760 --> 01:26:39.560



lesser of too Evil was the guy that you know,170601:26:39.640 --> 01:26:42.560



they get. That's pretty much been our system for fuck,170701:26:44.199 --> 01:26:49.199



I don't know forever. Yeah, that's been it for far longer.170801:26:49.159 --> 01:26:52.319



Too evil, And and and really, like I've said this before,170901:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.760



you know, our politics have been nothing more than high171001:26:56.800 --> 01:26:59.880



school popularity contest. It's like, are we really voting on171101:27:00.039 --> 01:27:03.760



people based on their qualifications? I don't know of many171201:27:05.560 --> 01:27:07.880



I'm not gonna say any, but I hardly any president171301:27:07.920 --> 01:27:13.239



who was actually literally qualified for the job. Very few,171401:27:14.479 --> 01:27:19.239



very few. We got to fix the system. Look, I171501:27:19.239 --> 01:27:21.840



don't know how we're gonna do it. But if we171601:27:21.840 --> 01:27:23.640



don't talk about these things and we just ignore them171701:27:23.680 --> 01:27:27.159



because we're frustrated, it's never going to get there's never171801:27:27.199 --> 01:27:29.079



gonna be an opportunity for someone to think about fixes171901:27:29.239 --> 01:27:32.600



but that way. But look, I'm gonna wrap it up172001:27:32.600 --> 01:27:36.199



here in a bit. And you know, before we go,172101:27:36.800 --> 01:27:38.920



I want I want you to tell people about your show.172201:27:38.960 --> 01:27:42.039



Your show's back, let people know where they can find you.172301:27:42.920 --> 01:27:45.279



And yeah, I mean, I just look forward to hearing172401:27:45.279 --> 01:27:47.399



more episodes, but go ahead and give people the rundown172501:27:47.439 --> 01:27:49.680



on how to find you, contact you, et cetera.172601:27:51.079 --> 01:27:54.359



Well, if you take yourself, yeah, and you want to172701:27:54.399 --> 01:27:56.880



listen to the Jess Resinski Show, you can't watch it yet,172801:27:56.920 --> 01:28:02.399



but the walls will get done. Things will happen and172901:28:02.439 --> 01:28:04.239



it looks fancy. But if you want to listen to it,173001:28:04.239 --> 01:28:09.000



it's available with Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Spotify for Creators, Good Pods,173101:28:09.039 --> 01:28:11.960



which is where he found me. Yeah, every grateful for173201:28:12.000 --> 01:28:16.079



that thing does help Amazon Music. iHeartRadio, Overcast, Audible, and173301:28:16.079 --> 01:28:18.199



I'm sure there's other places that I haven't heard of173401:28:18.239 --> 01:28:21.199



that it's on. But it sure isn't on Pandora because173501:28:21.239 --> 01:28:22.760



I submitted it and they said we'll get back to173601:28:22.800 --> 01:28:24.479



you an xt amount of weeks, and somehow, these many173701:28:24.560 --> 01:28:27.640



years later, it still says we'll get back to you173801:28:27.680 --> 01:28:32.479



in so many weeks. Big thumbs up to Pandora. And173901:28:32.520 --> 01:28:36.800



it's also on the website twenty one media dot com.174001:28:36.840 --> 01:28:39.760



All the links to all the platforms to include the174101:28:39.800 --> 01:28:44.319



old episodes are all on there on the page, along174201:28:44.359 --> 01:28:47.840



with my paintings that Jesse Razinski creations on Etsy that174301:28:48.039 --> 01:28:50.199



also has its own page on the website will take174401:28:50.239 --> 01:28:54.800



you right to the Etsy store, you know, for all that.174501:28:54.800 --> 01:28:57.399



And again there's always all the socials. But the easiest174601:28:57.439 --> 01:28:58.600



way if you want to get a hold of me174701:28:59.640 --> 01:29:01.039



is to say I'm a message on the twenty one174801:29:01.079 --> 01:29:04.359



forty six media dot com page, because I actually do174901:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.920



look at that every day, so it's easier to get175001:29:07.920 --> 01:29:09.600



a hold of me. It's the best way to get175101:29:09.600 --> 01:29:11.479



a hold of me that way because everything else, all175201:29:11.520 --> 01:29:15.399



other platforms spam me and I get all these you know,175301:29:15.720 --> 01:29:17.960



you get all all of them. So I just turned175401:29:17.960 --> 01:29:20.199



all my notifications off. So if you get me on there,175501:29:20.239 --> 01:29:21.680



you might get me right away. You might get me175601:29:21.720 --> 01:29:23.600



next year, I'm not sure.175701:29:24.800 --> 01:29:29.319



Well, hey man, thank you for coming on the show.175801:29:29.319 --> 01:29:31.399



I've been every wanting to get you back, uh and175901:29:31.439 --> 01:29:33.199



I thought this was a perfect opportunity to have you176001:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.880



here because you're back on track with the show and176101:29:37.119 --> 01:29:39.600



I want people to check you out because like a176201:29:39.600 --> 01:29:41.880



lot of people don't get what Jesse does is we176301:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.199



had a great conversation, but on his own show, he176401:29:44.359 --> 01:29:46.359



is like, when you pull that that little notebook out,176501:29:46.760 --> 01:29:50.359



that's what he does. He's like, hey, here's what's going on,176601:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.359



here's why you're being lied to. And I can prove it.176701:29:53.760 --> 01:29:55.800



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Jesse Rucinski

Podcast Host / Artist / Veteran

Marine Corps veteran and host of the podcasts The Jesse Rucinski Show. Jesse speaks on politics and current events while offering facts found from various sources to back up what he says. As a military veteran, Jesse is concerned with the lack of care and mental health issues that plague U.S. military veterans.