Guest Spot on The Weather'd Report - Iran, China, Midterms, and More
This bonus episode features me as a hustle having a discussion with Bruce Magee, host of The Weather'd Report, as we discuss the world's problems and relay our own frustrations.
We tackle the war with Iran, China's global interest, being conquered by way of immigration and reproduction, and US domestic politics.
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And it is pre-recorded because I'm sitting here
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with George Fontz and we are recording this in the morning.
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This is a part of the weather report
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that I've been wanting to do for a long time.
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Ken's on hiatus, we decided the last show
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that we were gonna take some time off
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and when we can get a show in, we can get a show in.
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And so I wanted to do some coffee chats
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and my first coffee chat is gonna be with our guest,
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George Fontz of the World of Blaze with George Fontz.
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Good morning, George.
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I'm here with my coffee too.
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Coffee.
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So just to prove to you that we're having coffee
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this morning.
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America's coffee.
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But who knows what's in it.
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It's not Colocumcraft, is it?
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It is Colocumcraft coffee, that is directly correct.
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That is Colocumcraft coffee,
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which is our proud sponsor of the weather report.
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And we wanna thank Bill and Dana
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for actually sponsoring my show.
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But I love it.
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But George Fontz says if you haven't seen George before,
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let me tell you something, George.
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I'm gonna rub you here.
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You have got the freaking,
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one of the greatest shows I've ever heard, man.
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You were just so first in so many different things
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and you're right on cue with a lot of stuff
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that's going on in the world right now.
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You get some phenomenal guests on.
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And I'm telling you what,
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the last five episodes that you've done
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that I've watched lately
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has just been knocking it out of the park, man.
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And you're really in tune with what's going on.
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And that's why I wanted to have you back on
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because, man, I've gotta talk to you, you know?
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It bugs me in the morning when I'm doing my morning show,
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you know, the Road Ridge 101,
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and then you come on and it's just like,
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oh, I wanna mute, I wanna talk to George for a while.
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Yeah, you know, I love your morning show.
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I come on when I can,
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but I never wanna be the guy
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who feels like I'm stepping on people's toes
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because everybody there is a great personality.
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I'll have really good things to contribute.
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So, no, the show's great.
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What'd you do in the morning at Road Ridge 101?
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It's pretty fun.
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It's good drive to work.
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Problem is that sometimes I'm already involved in things
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so it's like, I can't, you know, contribute.
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Or like the last time you called me out,
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I'm like, oh, I don't have my earbuds.
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Tried to put the speakerphone in the car.
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It's like, I have no idea how this sounds, but okay.
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You know?
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Well, it's kind of the whipping,
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it's kind of the whipping post for the weather report
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is basically what it is.
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We're pretty serious here, but, you know,
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during the morning it can get pretty.
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No, it's a good show.
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You need that.
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You need a fun, easy transition into the day.
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And, you know, you do touch on some serious stuff
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for sure, but there's always a twist
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to try to bring it back to like,
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hey, let's lighten things up, which is good
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because we can't be hardcore all the time, man.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We need those breaks.
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You gotta lighten it up for sure,
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especially these days, man.
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So, hey, I wanna get right into it, man,
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because you, like I said,
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you've had a lot of guests on.
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I'm gonna go through them.
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Alex Kane, you've had Michelle Stiles,
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you've had Eric Robinson, John Carlos Fry,
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and the last one with Zolai Habibi.
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Is that, I wanna say.
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Yeah, Zolai Habibi.
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Right, yeah.
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Yeah, and all of them has touched
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on different things that are going on,
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you know, current events and stuff like that.
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And it's really interesting.
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And the thing that I wanted to talk to you about,
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and we're gonna meld all these things,
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because these last five shows that you did
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kind of just kind of fall into
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what's going on with the world right now
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and how we all feel about it.
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And how, another one is just like,
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I pound and pound and pound all the time
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about how divided we are.
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And that's a big problem to me, especially.
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And I don't take it personally,
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but my world site and my foresight with me,
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my coworkers, my friends, you know,
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and outsources to community and everything else,
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it brings that all in perspective.
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And I'm telling you what, man, I'm not very,
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what do you wanna call optimist about the future
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of what we're doing in the United States right now.
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I really not.
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And it doesn't matter how you feel about Trump.
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Are you well's black pillars?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, it's, you know, the whole thing is,
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is that it doesn't matter what you feel about Trump.
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It doesn't matter what you feel about Democrats
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or whatever, you know.
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Right.
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The thing is, is that we're in this life,
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we're all in this life together.
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And we're all kind of right now
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walking around on eggshells, dude.
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And I hate that.
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Yeah, I hate that too.
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And that's unfortunately something that has been going on
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since, well, I think started with the protests
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in the 60s, right?
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Late 60s, whatever, with Vietnam.
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Started there.
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But I think in the 90s is when it really started
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to become an era when you were chastised
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for your viewpoint or your belief or your opinion.
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And then in the 2000s, forget about it.
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It totally became information warfare,
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keeping people in line by shaming them.
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And then we had the whole cancellation movement, right?
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So it's now like, well, I don't agree with you.
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So let me take away your income
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and your livelihood, everything about you.
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We're just gonna wipe it off the face of the earth
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because I don't agree with what you have to say.
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Kind of stabilized a bit now, but it's still there.
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I mean, it's that see the underbelly
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of society we have right now
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because the issue is like,
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you feel you can't say certain things, right?
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With certain people at the workplace, et cetera.
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But that is because your viewpoint
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may not be the majority viewpoint, right?
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And the funny thing about a workplace is like,
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you're not supposed to talk about politics and all this stuff,
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but they absolutely do if they feel
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they have the majority in an opinion,
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especially if you work in a place
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that is primarily leftist or Democrat-led.
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And I know where you're located in that area,
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it's like, you can't really get away from that.
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Yeah, and the same goes for me on many things.
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It's like, I can't really express everything.
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And I got to bite my tongue
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when I hear people trying to talk politics,
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especially geopolitics.
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You guys really don't know
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what the hell you're talking about.
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And you could tell it's all gleamed,
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their information's all gleamed from the headlines.
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They're just like, it's ridiculous.
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And then if you try to say something,
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you know it's gonna backfire on you.
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And then there's always that threat
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of being called in the office, HR, et cetera.
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And then it just leads to like,
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oh, well, we don't believe you're fit
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because you don't align with our values.
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It's like, well, what are your values, right?
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And it's just a sad thing.
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But we see it in media, we see it in podcasting.
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I mean, let's just be honest.
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I think you have a great show,
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but it's like, we're never,
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like even with me, I mean, I'm not super, super big.
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I mean, I'm blessed to be bigger than the average,
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I guess, depending on how you look at it.
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But at the same time, it's like,
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we're not getting the exposure and reach that we could
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because we're not playing the game.
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And my approach is like,
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I'd rather put out quality content based on truth.
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I like to talk to everybody.
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I don't always agree with them.
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And you see that contrast.
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I know you see it because on my solo episodes,
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I'm a different person.
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But when I have a guest, I know when to pull back
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and just like, let's have this conversation.
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I wanna hear your side.
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And I've had some guests not wanna be on the show
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because they're like, oh, you're a MAGA guy, whatever.
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It's like, well, I don't even know
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where that came from.
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Maybe because in the beginning,
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where Trump was. What about it?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Well, maybe because when Trump was running,
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I was behind Trump.
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I mean, look at the alternative.
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I was not going to let another Democrat be in office
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for another four years
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or even the potential of another eight years.
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It's like, it just wasn't gonna happen.
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It wasn't that I hated Democrats.
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It was just like,
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the people that they were pushing up as the option,
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it's like, was this really the best you guys can do?
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And now they're so broken.
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I mean, they're running against each other.
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You know, we got Jasmine Crockett just,
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I mean, still went to another Democrat.
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Went to Telerico, another Democrat,
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but at the same time.
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Oh my God, that guy is just,
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you listen to him and you go like,
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oh my God, this guy's even worse.
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Oh man.
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He's just been dropping without the,
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without the ubonics, you know.
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Wow.
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They have no direction.
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They're just doing the same old tired thing,
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tired playbook.
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And I think as much as, you know,
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the oppression of valid opinions and formed opinions,
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you know, the thing is like,
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guys like us, I believe we're not taking,
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well, let me rephrase this.
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We're always swimming upstream.
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To me, it's not always about what's popular.
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It's about what's right, what's true.
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And you know, when you mentioned that episode
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I had with John Carlos Frey,
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the guy's a six time Emmy award winning journalist.
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20 something years of just investigating the border,
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border patrol, migrants.
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And unfortunately that episode kind of got buried
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because as soon as we're going to release it
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and we're talking, here goes the war with Iran.
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And it's like, damn it, you know.
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And you got to squish gears and you have to.
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Well, and the fortunate thing is, you know,
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not to discredit him at all,
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because it has nothing to do with popularity
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of him whatsoever or even me.
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It's just like, nobody wanted, they moved on already.
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It's like timing.
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So it's like this news cycle doesn't help us either.
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But you know, the more those videos stay out
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in these interviews and you know, like our discussions,
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people will discover them and they usually end up
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in the end doing fairly well.
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But I really felt bad about that.
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I was like, man, John, you know,
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we're going back and forth as people were like,
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yeah, I'm not sure.
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You're kind of a Maggie guy.
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We believe in migrants.
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I'm like, well, what makes you think I don't?
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Let's talk.
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I mean, I think that's good.
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That's what gets caught in the mix
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when we're out there and we're convicting
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with our friends and confidants and family
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and stuff like that is that they all lump us
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into either one side or the other.
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There's no real mix.
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There's no real kind of, I want to call goulash,
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you know, where everything is kind of mixed in together
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because I know you and then you know me
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and we talk on different shows and stuff like that.
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We're just multifaceted and it's just not a MAGA thing.
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It's just the, I was a Democrat for a long time.
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I was a Bernie bro.
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Oh my God, you know, I was a Bernie bro.
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I was too, you know,
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but the Democrats were different back then.
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I mean, many of our people that we communicate
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with like our circle,
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they all say pretty much the same thing.
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They've changed.
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Cause look, let's go back to the night.
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Let's look at Clinton era Democrats, right?
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They were all for closing the borders, deporting people.
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They were on there saying immigrants are stealing our jobs.
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Like they were doing everything that they're now saying
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is wrong with the messaging and the direction
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of the current Trump administration.
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And I'm like, if I put you guys up like this,
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you're the same fucking party,
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but all of a sudden between here and here,
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it's like, what happened?
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You know, and then there are excuses like,
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well, you know, we do evolve and.
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Yeah, well, let me say in marketing,
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it's always known to everybody
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that the person does not evolve.
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The same marketing that's been working in the 1930s
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is working now.
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And marketers know that
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and they use those same tactics and stuff like that.
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But really when it comes down to this geopolitics,
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you brought up geopolitics,
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let's kind of back back into that.
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Is that, yeah, everybody uses headlines.
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I mean, I've got all kinds of headlines
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we can talk about this morning about geopolitics.
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All of a sudden, everybody is attuned to Iran.
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Everybody knows everything about Iran.
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You know what?
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I'll tell you what, I don't know shit about Iran.
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I know how I feel about Iran,
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but I do know this about Iran.
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I was a young airman in a Titan II missile silo
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in 1979 when they took the hostages.
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And I know exactly the readiness that I had to be at
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being in that missile silo at that time,
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scared out of my gorge
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because I'm freaking 18, 19 years old at the time.
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And you're there in a nuclear missile silo.
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The alarm goes off, you're ready to do it,
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and you're just waiting.
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I mean, they put us on high alert.
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I remember the Iran before the Shah was deposed and gone.
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And I know, and I've lived through this history.
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And kind of what the reason why I wanted you on here
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because the last five episodes
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is kind of spanned over that time
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where we realized that what's going on in Iran right now
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is different than what was going on in the 70s, okay?
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We've got, what, three generations of people already
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that have passed by that.
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So some of these people that are out there
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and they're protesting, especially the young people,
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have no idea about what went on in the 70s.
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All they know is that they're tired of being oppressed.
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And I got a really pointed question here
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that I wanted to say.
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In 1979, it was the students that was doing the uprising
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to bring on the regime that they have now in Iran.
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And now we're supposed to trust those same students
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that are protesting now to try to bring change into Iran.
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Now I know those students are different now
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than they were in the 70s,
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but there's still the young people
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that are creating this movement.
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What do you think about that?
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I think the difference is,
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well, there's a few parts to that, Bruce.
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Yeah, there's a whole bunch.
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The, in 1979, what happened was the Islamic regime
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took advantage of what was going on
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with the current Shah at the time.
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When he nationalized oil, for example,
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a lot of people thought,
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or traditionalists or conservatives,
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being those who were practitioners of Islam,
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sorry, morning, getting my coffee in.
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But those who were practitioners of Islam
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who took it very conservatively or very literally,
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they've been wanting to take control for years.
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We got a 1400 year old religion
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that was also invented 600 years after Christianity.
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And even if you look at it from that point of view,
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Christianity was founded after Christ,
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which still doesn't even,
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if you look at that gap in time
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between Christianity and Islam
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and you wanna go further back,
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you go back to the Abrahamic teachings, right?
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Go back to the Old Testament.
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Islam was even further removed by a few thousand years.
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So the reality is Islam was on a mission.
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Those who practice Islam were on a mission
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to convert and take over many nations,
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happened to Istanbul.
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So Constantinople was taken, right?
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Turned into now what is today Turkey,
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which is a Muslim nation.
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And so they were doing the same thing in Persia.
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Okay, so there's a lot of history here.
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This was a long, slow, steady mission to convert.
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It's not the original religion of Iran,
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what is known as Iran today.
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And a lot of people don't realize that.
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And even now, there are people who live in Iran
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that are not Muslims,
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or at least not the Muslim that you see
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that is being presented by the Islamic regime
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or those who practice extreme Islam.
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It's not the evil extreme.
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So there's a difference between people taking advantage
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of a religion to gain power and control,
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which is exactly what the regime did in 79,
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because the people were not happy with the Shah.
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They thought he was trying to become too westernized.
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They didn't like that the oil was being nationalized.
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They thought that he was pandering
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to the UK and the USA at the time.
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But a lot of people ignore why the USA
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ever got involved anyway.
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And the history even goes before that,
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is that it came down to trying to keep communism
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out of the area.
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Because a lot of people never talk about
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or they contentially ignore that in Afghanistan,
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that Russia of the time or the USSR of the time
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was trying to gain a foothold in the area and control it.
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They also were doing the same thing with Iran.
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And a lot of people ignore that fact of history,
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that part of history.
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They just see, oh, the US intervention, the UK,
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and they screwed everything up
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and they forced regime change.
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Well, that's not what really happened.
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The US really got involved to try to help those
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who were against the rise of communism
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and or even Islam to take over.
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So there's those things that they don't talk about,
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but 79 was ripe for the taking for the Islamic regime
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because people were fed up with the Shah at the time.
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They didn't think that he was doing his right.
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And he was also, his regime also,
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or was doing things that were considered
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very authoritarian.
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He was arresting people, he was silencing people.
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Yeah, so you got this monarchy
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that seemed to be benevolent for the people
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that was starting to turn away from the people
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and treat them like, no, you're my subjects.
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So get into your question here.
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The way to change the nation
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is to force change through the youth.
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And of course, that's why you saw that happening
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with college students, just as you see in America.
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I mean, where do all the protests
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and the ideas of communism, Marxism, socialism,
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where do those all come from?
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It's all from the people
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that are in the colleges, universities,
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higher education, they call it.
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Yeah, academia for sure.
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But they call it higher education,
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but I got to question that.
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Is it really higher education?
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I mean, it seems like force indoctrination to me.
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And so that's what they did.
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It's an old playbook.
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And if you look at 1979 of Iran,
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that is what they did.
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They worked with the youth,
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they infiltrated the universities.
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They're like, no, this is the way
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they were trying to preach how,
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we will take care of the people.
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We got to turn Iran back to its traditional roots.
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But the problem with that,
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the traditional roots really wasn't Islam
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as much as they want to claim it is.
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So they easily were able to take advantage
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of the situation and they did.
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They lied to the people.
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And once they got into power,
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they did exactly what they were warned
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that everybody was warning
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or the West was warning everybody about.
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And they assert themselves became powerful
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to control the people.
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And then they instilled their view of Islam,
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which was a very authoritarian view of it,
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very rigid, very strict.
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And they suppressed the people to control them.
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I mean, they control the internet,
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they control everything.
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And so the difference between then and now
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and why you see maybe three generations removed
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is because the internet is huge, it's prevalent.
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Like there's only so much of the outside world
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in today's modern world that you can suppress.
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Let's accent that.
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Let's accent that what they've been disarmed also.
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So you have a disarmed society against the society,
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that against a government that has all the weapons also.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, that's just it.
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That is another techno playbook that you see
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and while that we see in extreme Islam,
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we see in communism, right?
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So how many communist countries you see
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where the people actually own weapons personally?
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Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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Yeah, so fast forwarding into
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what we have dealing with the United States
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and in certain areas of the United States.
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Let's just take in New York City.
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We've got Mandami who was just elected by the people
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to lead New York City,
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one of the largest cities in America.
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And now we've got communism coming in there.
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And this was all brought forth by a young vote.
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I mean, let's face it.
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When they came out to vote for that,
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a lot of the young peoples came out
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and they decided that they wanted to vote.
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And this is being a part of the situation
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where three generations from my generation,
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three or four generations from my generation
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are now looking at everybody and going like,
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oh my God, we're gonna leave this freaking government
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to these kids.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't scare me as much.
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I mean, I'm sure that back when I was started,
523
00:20:38.910 --> 00:20:41.330
when I was back in that missile silo in 1979,
524
00:20:41.330 --> 00:20:43.950
I just voted for the first time in my whole life.
525
00:20:44.950 --> 00:20:46.630
My parents looking at me going like,
526
00:20:46.730 --> 00:20:49.950
oh my God, we're gonna leave this world up for these kids.
527
00:20:50.150 --> 00:20:52.830
I mean, so it's a perpetual statement
528
00:20:52.830 --> 00:20:54.770
that keeps going on and on and on.
529
00:20:55.010 --> 00:20:56.390
But what do you think about that?
530
00:20:56.530 --> 00:20:57.910
I mean, so there's some similarities,
531
00:20:58.130 --> 00:20:59.330
there's some duopoly there
532
00:20:59.330 --> 00:21:01.370
with the way that college students
533
00:21:01.370 --> 00:21:04.310
are now being taught by academia in the colleges
534
00:21:04.310 --> 00:21:07.810
that of course they're using the same old playbook
535
00:21:07.810 --> 00:21:11.150
as you just noted and going forward with that.
536
00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:14.950
It's part of the communist Marxist playbook, literally.
537
00:21:15.470 --> 00:21:17.310
And the reason, so you brought up
538
00:21:17.310 --> 00:21:19.590
three generations a few times
539
00:21:20.150 --> 00:21:23.330
and that's important to note
540
00:21:23.330 --> 00:21:26.850
because the process is long, slow and steady.
541
00:21:27.610 --> 00:21:28.890
It's not instant.
542
00:21:29.390 --> 00:21:30.090
It's drip, yeah, it's a drip.
543
00:21:30.510 --> 00:21:32.950
It is a drip, it's a constant.
544
00:21:33.110 --> 00:21:34.690
I mean, it's a programming of the people
545
00:21:34.690 --> 00:21:35.950
and that's what's been happening.
546
00:21:35.990 --> 00:21:39.070
And it's been happening through, again, higher education.
547
00:21:39.750 --> 00:21:45.050
And academia, and this is what they do.
548
00:21:46.070 --> 00:21:47.750
Okay, third generation, right?
549
00:21:47.750 --> 00:21:50.490
Third generation from your time, for example.
550
00:21:51.790 --> 00:21:54.390
The reality is what they did
551
00:21:54.390 --> 00:21:58.030
is slowly introduced the ideas of a better world
552
00:21:58.030 --> 00:22:02.150
through socialism and then Marxism
553
00:22:02.150 --> 00:22:05.470
and saying, well, maybe the way of the U.S.,
554
00:22:05.930 --> 00:22:07.890
our political structure,
555
00:22:07.890 --> 00:22:09.570
capitalism is just bad.
556
00:22:09.870 --> 00:22:12.050
The reason everything is bad in the USA
557
00:22:12.050 --> 00:22:13.310
is because of capitalism.
558
00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:15.310
The reason the world is bad is because the USA
559
00:22:15.310 --> 00:22:17.590
is the big bad bully that's beating everybody
560
00:22:17.590 --> 00:22:18.430
over the head with a stick.
561
00:22:19.010 --> 00:22:20.790
And that message has been constant
562
00:22:20.790 --> 00:22:23.810
for, as you said, going on three generations.
563
00:22:24.190 --> 00:22:28.110
So eventually, it's like if you're gonna have to,
564
00:22:28.130 --> 00:22:29.590
let's say if you breed an animal
565
00:22:29.590 --> 00:22:32.130
and you want a different trait out of that animal,
566
00:22:32.630 --> 00:22:36.090
it takes time through manipulating the DNA, right,
567
00:22:36.090 --> 00:22:38.530
over time, and then eventually that's how you get
568
00:22:38.530 --> 00:22:41.810
like a Shetland pony or a certain dog breed example.
569
00:22:42.270 --> 00:22:44.550
I'm not equating animals to politics here,
570
00:22:44.970 --> 00:22:48.890
but I think that's a valid example
571
00:22:48.890 --> 00:22:52.350
because that's how they're doing it to the people,
572
00:22:52.610 --> 00:22:53.550
through controlling the messaging
573
00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:55.930
and being consistent in the message
574
00:22:55.930 --> 00:22:56.970
without being overwhelming.
575
00:22:57.190 --> 00:22:59.390
So it's like a slow, steady,
576
00:22:59.850 --> 00:23:01.710
it's like if I told you every day,
577
00:23:01.770 --> 00:23:02.890
sky isn't blue, it's black,
578
00:23:02.890 --> 00:23:04.630
and I never changed my position.
579
00:23:04.690 --> 00:23:05.930
Eventually, one day you're gonna question
580
00:23:05.930 --> 00:23:06.730
whether it was blue.
581
00:23:07.370 --> 00:23:08.050
Exactly, exactly.
582
00:23:08.090 --> 00:23:08.830
So that's what they've been doing.
583
00:23:08.890 --> 00:23:10.470
So that's why you see this.
584
00:23:10.570 --> 00:23:11.910
Now, what didn't help though,
585
00:23:11.950 --> 00:23:12.950
when we're talking about Mamdani,
586
00:23:13.330 --> 00:23:15.810
what didn't help is you gotta question,
587
00:23:16.350 --> 00:23:18.790
okay, we understand the messaging in academia
588
00:23:18.790 --> 00:23:22.350
and them trying to change the people's view
589
00:23:22.350 --> 00:23:23.550
over three generations,
590
00:23:23.750 --> 00:23:27.930
but that doesn't explain why Kathy Holkle
591
00:23:28.630 --> 00:23:29.610
got behind Mamdani.
592
00:23:29.710 --> 00:23:32.390
It doesn't explain why AOC did or why Bernie Sanders.
593
00:23:32.930 --> 00:23:36.610
Why are these people who are older,
594
00:23:36.610 --> 00:23:37.810
well, AOC's still a little bit younger.
595
00:23:38.030 --> 00:23:39.150
It's not that typical Democrat.
596
00:23:39.170 --> 00:23:40.390
It's not that typical Democrat.
597
00:23:40.390 --> 00:23:42.930
Right, why were they able to get behind them?
598
00:23:43.310 --> 00:23:45.030
Yeah, that we were both with, yeah, exactly.
599
00:23:45.670 --> 00:23:50.270
And so Mamdani ran as a democratic socialist,
600
00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:51.870
socialist in the damn name.
601
00:23:52.610 --> 00:23:54.530
How were they able to get behind him
602
00:23:54.530 --> 00:23:57.250
for the sake of just hating Trump is really what it was
603
00:23:57.250 --> 00:23:59.310
and Trump being such a polarizing figure,
604
00:23:59.430 --> 00:24:00.810
they're like, no matter what we're gonna do,
605
00:24:00.810 --> 00:24:03.390
we're gonna make sure that we control this.
606
00:24:03.910 --> 00:24:05.310
And here's the new thing
607
00:24:05.310 --> 00:24:07.370
that the youth are kind of latching onto.
608
00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:08.330
So we're gonna support this.
609
00:24:08.370 --> 00:24:09.690
But as soon as he was in office,
610
00:24:10.070 --> 00:24:11.650
him and Kathy Holkle been like this.
611
00:24:12.490 --> 00:24:14.430
She's kind of like pulled the reins in on like,
612
00:24:14.610 --> 00:24:16.650
oh, you can and can't do certain things.
613
00:24:17.450 --> 00:24:18.850
Even though the city of New York
614
00:24:18.850 --> 00:24:21.110
should be managed by Mamdani,
615
00:24:21.370 --> 00:24:22.610
I mean, honestly being the mayor,
616
00:24:22.710 --> 00:24:23.790
Kathy also realized like,
617
00:24:23.810 --> 00:24:26.150
well, this is the jewel of New York state.
618
00:24:26.410 --> 00:24:28.570
Like this, everything that is done here
619
00:24:28.570 --> 00:24:29.910
is a message sent to the world.
620
00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:32.330
Just like people consider San Francisco
621
00:24:32.330 --> 00:24:33.270
to be that in California,
622
00:24:33.690 --> 00:24:35.130
even though you and I definitely
623
00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:36.610
probably don't feel that way.
624
00:24:36.790 --> 00:24:37.910
We don't agree with that.
625
00:24:38.630 --> 00:24:40.510
But I think that's what happened.
626
00:24:40.850 --> 00:24:43.510
It's, you know, everybody's been warning about this
627
00:24:43.510 --> 00:24:44.550
and everybody's been ignoring saying,
628
00:24:44.570 --> 00:24:46.570
oh, you guys are just, you know, far right.
629
00:24:46.770 --> 00:24:48.070
You're, you just don't wanna change.
630
00:24:48.270 --> 00:24:48.770
You're old.
631
00:24:48.890 --> 00:24:51.050
You just don't understand the evolution
632
00:24:51.050 --> 00:24:52.290
of the world around you.
633
00:24:52.490 --> 00:24:53.710
It's modern, no, bullshit.
634
00:24:54.450 --> 00:24:55.830
You know, you allowed it to happen.
635
00:24:55.950 --> 00:24:58.350
It's like you never fixed the leaky faucet.
636
00:24:58.350 --> 00:24:59.770
And here we go.
637
00:25:00.330 --> 00:25:02.310
You know, now it's a flood in your damn bathroom.
638
00:25:02.370 --> 00:25:03.710
Now it's leaking out into the kitchen
639
00:25:03.710 --> 00:25:05.330
and it's taking over your house.
640
00:25:05.570 --> 00:25:07.250
And I don't know how they're gonna turn it off
641
00:25:07.250 --> 00:25:09.590
unless they step in and literally just say,
642
00:25:09.630 --> 00:25:10.870
this shit stops now.
643
00:25:12.310 --> 00:25:14.370
And we've seen the same thing through
644
00:25:14.370 --> 00:25:18.490
the use of manipulating the immigration system,
645
00:25:18.590 --> 00:25:20.370
you know, how our borders have been handled,
646
00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:23.130
how there's been preferential treatment
647
00:25:23.130 --> 00:25:26.630
given to certain groups that immigrate.
648
00:25:27.050 --> 00:25:30.050
You know, we can talk about the Somalis in Minnesota.
649
00:25:30.070 --> 00:25:31.430
We can talk about what's going on
650
00:25:31.430 --> 00:25:32.790
on our southern border with Mexico,
651
00:25:32.810 --> 00:25:33.630
but not just Mexico.
652
00:25:33.830 --> 00:25:37.170
You know, most people's from South America
653
00:25:37.170 --> 00:25:38.010
or from Latin America.
654
00:25:38.670 --> 00:25:40.610
And you can see how the policies have shifted
655
00:25:40.610 --> 00:25:43.350
over the years to like one day going,
656
00:25:43.770 --> 00:25:44.690
immigrants are the future.
657
00:25:45.830 --> 00:25:48.370
Okay, well that's been going on since,
658
00:25:48.430 --> 00:25:49.710
maybe you can correct me here.
659
00:25:49.870 --> 00:25:53.510
I think it was around the 60s
660
00:25:53.510 --> 00:25:56.210
is when that started like happening more prevalently.
661
00:25:56.210 --> 00:25:56.830
Is that correct?
662
00:25:57.010 --> 00:25:57.650
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
663
00:25:57.750 --> 00:26:00.990
Because well, you had the Farm Workers Union
664
00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:05.890
coming into California and really basically restructuring
665
00:26:05.890 --> 00:26:08.190
how they did farming here and agriculture.
666
00:26:08.750 --> 00:26:11.630
So that's been prevalent for a long time,
667
00:26:11.630 --> 00:26:12.930
as long as I can remember.
668
00:26:14.130 --> 00:26:15.510
And like I said, you know,
669
00:26:15.510 --> 00:26:17.570
this whole thing has evolved over time
670
00:26:17.570 --> 00:26:19.290
like you were mentioning.
671
00:26:20.330 --> 00:26:21.270
And we could get into them.
672
00:26:21.270 --> 00:26:24.110
I mean, this all revolves around every single episode
673
00:26:24.110 --> 00:26:26.070
that you've had in the last five episodes
674
00:26:26.670 --> 00:26:28.670
that kind of melded into one.
675
00:26:28.830 --> 00:26:30.030
Kind of ties together, huh?
676
00:26:30.150 --> 00:26:34.750
I mean, immigration, I mean, world consequences
677
00:26:34.750 --> 00:26:36.350
as far as war and stuff like that.
678
00:26:36.830 --> 00:26:38.590
Venezuela, I mean, I just read,
679
00:26:38.850 --> 00:26:41.190
I have a thing here from NPR
680
00:26:41.710 --> 00:26:43.630
that came out of Fox News this morning
681
00:26:43.630 --> 00:26:45.930
about Venezuela that has really changed
682
00:26:45.930 --> 00:26:47.490
since Maduro has left.
683
00:26:48.330 --> 00:26:49.410
And where the hell is Maduro?
684
00:26:49.430 --> 00:26:49.990
Who knew, right?
685
00:26:50.170 --> 00:26:51.490
I guess the US was lying, right?
686
00:26:51.490 --> 00:26:53.110
Yeah, who knew that was gonna change, you know?
687
00:26:53.670 --> 00:26:56.250
We've got the, what else?
688
00:26:56.450 --> 00:26:59.350
We got, you know, Trump getting into Iran.
689
00:26:59.510 --> 00:27:00.530
I mean, back to that.
690
00:27:01.130 --> 00:27:05.370
This whole thing is that I think that, you know,
691
00:27:05.370 --> 00:27:07.130
you were kind of sad about the fact
692
00:27:07.130 --> 00:27:09.810
that you had Jacob Brey on and-
693
00:27:09.810 --> 00:27:10.330
Oh, John.
694
00:27:10.590 --> 00:27:12.910
Or John, excuse me, John Carlos Frey.
695
00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:16.350
And having to, you know,
696
00:27:16.570 --> 00:27:18.750
the news cycle would go past that.
697
00:27:18.770 --> 00:27:19.330
Right.
698
00:27:19.950 --> 00:27:23.410
We all, I talk a lot about the shiny object,
699
00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:28.030
Epstein files, the war, this, taking over this,
700
00:27:28.530 --> 00:27:30.990
Nancy, whatever her name is.
701
00:27:31.230 --> 00:27:31.710
Mace, yeah.
702
00:27:31.730 --> 00:27:34.990
Yeah, not Nancy Mace, the missing grandma.
703
00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:37.130
Oh, yeah.
704
00:27:37.210 --> 00:27:40.270
All these things take precedence over the news cycle
705
00:27:40.270 --> 00:27:42.510
and then we forget about what's going on
706
00:27:42.510 --> 00:27:43.230
in the background.
707
00:27:43.450 --> 00:27:44.590
We forget about that.
708
00:27:44.770 --> 00:27:45.950
This is what's front and center.
709
00:27:46.490 --> 00:27:46.850
Yes.
710
00:27:46.850 --> 00:27:48.570
I'm starting to believe that
711
00:27:49.730 --> 00:27:51.810
all those things are important and true.
712
00:27:52.530 --> 00:27:54.810
I mean, but the news cycle is gonna be the news cycle,
713
00:27:54.830 --> 00:27:58.050
whatever sells advertising is what's gonna lead,
714
00:27:58.710 --> 00:28:01.090
regardless of whether or not we're still looking for,
715
00:28:01.090 --> 00:28:02.470
you know, Savannah's grandma,
716
00:28:02.910 --> 00:28:04.570
regardless of whether we're still asking
717
00:28:04.570 --> 00:28:06.990
for the Epstein files to be, you know,
718
00:28:07.190 --> 00:28:09.810
everything, you know, to be released,
719
00:28:10.390 --> 00:28:12.290
no matter what we feel about immigration,
720
00:28:12.410 --> 00:28:14.010
no matter what we feel about mandem.
721
00:28:14.010 --> 00:28:16.010
I mean, now Iran is in the, you know,
722
00:28:16.010 --> 00:28:17.210
that's the focal point.
723
00:28:18.590 --> 00:28:21.150
Okay, so, but the thing is with media,
724
00:28:21.430 --> 00:28:22.990
and I know you know this,
725
00:28:22.990 --> 00:28:26.370
but I'm gonna say it, it's out of our control
726
00:28:26.370 --> 00:28:27.890
and the people pulling the strings,
727
00:28:28.010 --> 00:28:30.870
it's like when you're driving your car, a race car,
728
00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:32.850
it's like you have control of the throttle.
729
00:28:32.930 --> 00:28:35.450
Like you can rev it up, just slow it down
730
00:28:35.990 --> 00:28:37.770
and the news cycle is fast,
731
00:28:37.770 --> 00:28:39.930
but they do conveniently speed it up
732
00:28:41.190 --> 00:28:45.270
to basically sidestep certain events, right?
733
00:28:46.410 --> 00:28:48.330
There's things that have happened recently
734
00:28:48.330 --> 00:28:49.690
that didn't get a lot of attention.
735
00:28:49.830 --> 00:28:52.950
I mean, for example, they just signed,
736
00:28:53.050 --> 00:28:54.630
I don't know what it was actually named,
737
00:28:54.630 --> 00:28:55.450
I have to look it up,
738
00:28:55.550 --> 00:28:56.950
but I saved the info,
739
00:28:57.030 --> 00:28:59.930
the coalition of South Americans,
740
00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:01.430
or the Americas I mean,
741
00:29:01.770 --> 00:29:03.310
to where many Latin American countries
742
00:29:03.310 --> 00:29:04.570
signed an agreement with the US
743
00:29:04.570 --> 00:29:07.730
to absolutely go after narco terrorists
744
00:29:07.730 --> 00:29:09.110
and root them out.
745
00:29:09.110 --> 00:29:13.230
And they did so agreeing to do it in a military fashion,
746
00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:15.290
meaning the US now has the power
747
00:29:15.290 --> 00:29:16.270
to work with these governments
748
00:29:16.270 --> 00:29:18.970
to go into their countries with military
749
00:29:19.510 --> 00:29:21.050
to take out these narco terrorists.
750
00:29:21.430 --> 00:29:21.910
Yeah.
751
00:29:22.870 --> 00:29:23.810
Who didn't sign?
752
00:29:24.010 --> 00:29:25.030
Mexico, why?
753
00:29:26.290 --> 00:29:28.570
I don't know, but anyway, that happened
754
00:29:28.570 --> 00:29:30.370
and you saw a blip, it was like,
755
00:29:30.430 --> 00:29:33.550
okay, here we go, big old Iran, like you said,
756
00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:34.930
but Iran's a big deal
757
00:29:34.930 --> 00:29:36.790
because we've been on a collision course with them,
758
00:29:36.790 --> 00:29:41.410
as I said before, with other people for about 50 years.
759
00:29:41.590 --> 00:29:44.190
I mean, this isn't an overnight thing.
760
00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:45.510
The problem is we had about 50 years
761
00:29:45.510 --> 00:29:47.090
of bad policy and inaction
762
00:29:47.690 --> 00:29:49.830
that led us to where we are now.
763
00:29:50.090 --> 00:29:51.390
And everybody's trying to say,
764
00:29:51.490 --> 00:29:53.390
well, not everybody, but those paid influencers
765
00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:54.350
are like, oh, it's Israel,
766
00:29:54.630 --> 00:29:55.990
we're doing everything at the behest of Israel.
767
00:29:56.070 --> 00:29:56.810
No, we're not.
768
00:29:57.550 --> 00:30:00.530
When you have a regime whose policy is death to America
769
00:30:00.530 --> 00:30:03.550
and to conquer the West intentionally,
770
00:30:04.730 --> 00:30:06.630
eventually think shit's gonna hit the fan.
771
00:30:08.330 --> 00:30:10.210
Regardless of the past parents we had
772
00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:11.170
who didn't want to do anything
773
00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:13.310
and actually release funds to Iran for whatever reason,
774
00:30:13.310 --> 00:30:14.230
I have no idea.
775
00:30:15.230 --> 00:30:18.390
They are the number one state sponsor of terrorism, period.
776
00:30:18.690 --> 00:30:20.350
You're not going to take that away.
777
00:30:20.830 --> 00:30:22.110
The problem that we see is,
778
00:30:22.530 --> 00:30:24.830
what I don't want to see is people constantly saying
779
00:30:24.830 --> 00:30:25.970
Iran, Iran, Iran,
780
00:30:26.030 --> 00:30:28.650
they should be referencing the Islamic regime
781
00:30:28.650 --> 00:30:31.650
or the Iranian regime and the IRGC.
782
00:30:31.650 --> 00:30:34.050
Those are the two issues we have in Iran.
783
00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:34.910
It's not necessarily-
784
00:30:34.910 --> 00:30:37.190
Two different issues too, two different issues also.
785
00:30:37.450 --> 00:30:37.950
Absolutely.
786
00:30:38.330 --> 00:30:41.270
So that's the thing that I'm hoping
787
00:30:41.270 --> 00:30:42.830
that people are more educated on.
788
00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:46.270
It's like, you don't want to just say Iran constantly
789
00:30:46.270 --> 00:30:49.230
and people start to see Iranian people as the problem.
790
00:30:49.630 --> 00:30:51.850
They have to bring the attention to what it really is.
791
00:30:51.850 --> 00:30:54.750
It's the IRGC and it's the Islamic regime
792
00:30:54.750 --> 00:30:56.650
or the Iranian regime that's been in control.
793
00:30:57.310 --> 00:31:00.530
The problem with Iran is they have to completely root out
794
00:31:00.530 --> 00:31:02.750
this theocratic government.
795
00:31:03.210 --> 00:31:05.630
They have to also make sure that Islam
796
00:31:05.630 --> 00:31:09.710
is never front and center in making the decisions
797
00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:12.410
for the people as a whole or as a nation.
798
00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:15.970
And that includes everything from their own nation
799
00:31:15.970 --> 00:31:17.770
to their geopolitical relationships.
800
00:31:18.570 --> 00:31:20.750
If you want to follow that particular religion,
801
00:31:20.870 --> 00:31:21.970
it should be a personal thing.
802
00:31:22.350 --> 00:31:24.190
And you could say this is a Western idea,
803
00:31:24.270 --> 00:31:25.610
but not really because again,
804
00:31:26.290 --> 00:31:30.210
it's not the inherent religion of Persia.
805
00:31:30.210 --> 00:31:31.370
It's just not.
806
00:31:31.370 --> 00:31:34.830
Yeah, and let's bring that to the forefront.
807
00:31:35.090 --> 00:31:36.790
I mean, they talk about the United States
808
00:31:36.790 --> 00:31:37.870
being a Christian nation.
809
00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:39.430
I mean, I'm a Christian.
810
00:31:39.630 --> 00:31:41.290
I consider myself a Christian.
811
00:31:43.510 --> 00:31:45.190
I believe in God and everything,
812
00:31:46.090 --> 00:31:48.010
but I don't think it should define our nation.
813
00:31:48.170 --> 00:31:50.590
I don't think, like exactly with Iran,
814
00:31:50.650 --> 00:31:54.790
I don't think that the Muslim or Islamist faith
815
00:31:54.790 --> 00:32:00.190
should be the prevalent point of their existence.
816
00:32:00.210 --> 00:32:04.230
As a nation, I don't think the Christian faith
817
00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:06.910
should be the focal point of our nation.
818
00:32:07.510 --> 00:32:10.750
It's values and it's morals that really drive this world.
819
00:32:10.890 --> 00:32:14.530
And like you said, I think it was this last episode
820
00:32:14.530 --> 00:32:18.850
that you have with the, who was it?
821
00:32:19.010 --> 00:32:22.770
Zola, you kind of pressed on that.
822
00:32:22.790 --> 00:32:25.190
It was just like, that's a personal thing.
823
00:32:25.450 --> 00:32:27.710
My walk with God, my walk with the Bible,
824
00:32:27.710 --> 00:32:31.330
my walk with my faith is my personal journey.
825
00:32:31.810 --> 00:32:33.570
It shouldn't be a part of my country.
826
00:32:33.630 --> 00:32:35.530
Now, those morals and values should be,
827
00:32:35.770 --> 00:32:37.070
and I think the Islam faith,
828
00:32:37.090 --> 00:32:39.030
I think their morals and values should be.
829
00:32:39.110 --> 00:32:40.630
I know plenty of Muslim people
830
00:32:40.630 --> 00:32:41.910
that are just kind as hell.
831
00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:45.610
They think this is all crazy just as much as we do.
832
00:32:46.030 --> 00:32:47.890
I mean, it's the fringes on both sides
833
00:32:47.890 --> 00:32:50.210
that are just like the ones that are the craziest.
834
00:32:50.730 --> 00:32:52.690
And I think we need to get away from that.
835
00:32:53.050 --> 00:32:54.790
And I don't know how to get away from that
836
00:32:54.790 --> 00:32:57.070
because you're always gonna have the crazy fundamentalists
837
00:32:57.070 --> 00:32:59.590
that are, that somehow rise in the power.
838
00:33:00.290 --> 00:33:03.150
Well, the problem is we let Islamic fundamentalism
839
00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:05.310
in general, and I'm not saying us
840
00:33:05.310 --> 00:33:06.570
as the Americans or the West,
841
00:33:06.910 --> 00:33:08.070
but even in the Middle East,
842
00:33:08.570 --> 00:33:09.930
they rose to power and once they had it,
843
00:33:09.930 --> 00:33:12.610
they kept it by disarming people,
844
00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:16.370
by creating these terrorist groups or funding them.
845
00:33:16.850 --> 00:33:18.490
And I think if we're honest,
846
00:33:18.630 --> 00:33:20.910
I don't think these people actually believe
847
00:33:20.910 --> 00:33:22.390
in actual real Islam.
848
00:33:22.930 --> 00:33:24.450
I mean, they've cherry picked,
849
00:33:24.450 --> 00:33:26.150
they've cherry picked it apart
850
00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:29.010
and molded it into the doctrine that they use
851
00:33:29.010 --> 00:33:30.670
to manipulate and control people, period.
852
00:33:30.670 --> 00:33:32.250
Yeah, and we have to, and we have to.
853
00:33:32.270 --> 00:33:33.950
And that's where I was trying to get to duopoly
854
00:33:33.950 --> 00:33:36.570
in between the two factions of,
855
00:33:36.570 --> 00:33:39.130
I wanna say factions because everybody's going like,
856
00:33:39.150 --> 00:33:42.830
oh, this is between evil and-
857
00:33:42.830 --> 00:33:43.710
Yeah, good and evil.
858
00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:46.250
Good and evil, it's the superhero fight.
859
00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:48.350
But there's so much nuance in gray area there
860
00:33:48.350 --> 00:33:49.890
that people don't wanna address.
861
00:33:49.990 --> 00:33:51.810
I guess it's just easier to go,
862
00:33:52.690 --> 00:33:54.970
bad, good, fight, whatever.
863
00:33:56.790 --> 00:33:59.450
So example I used last time was also this.
864
00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:00.630
It's like, I told Zalala,
865
00:34:00.850 --> 00:34:04.430
look, this isn't the West or America saying Muslims bad
866
00:34:04.430 --> 00:34:05.790
or we hate Muslims.
867
00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:10.050
And I'm tired of people taking it that way
868
00:34:10.050 --> 00:34:11.250
or trying to push that messaging,
869
00:34:11.370 --> 00:34:12.670
even from her side, by the way.
870
00:34:13.030 --> 00:34:14.650
That's not the message that's trying to be driven.
871
00:34:14.750 --> 00:34:17.489
The message is we understand they're good people.
872
00:34:17.690 --> 00:34:19.050
We understand people are born into things
873
00:34:19.050 --> 00:34:20.250
that they have no control of.
874
00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:21.790
Like if you're born into that area,
875
00:34:21.929 --> 00:34:23.110
you're gonna be a Muslim, period.
876
00:34:23.750 --> 00:34:25.429
But in the modern age,
877
00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:27.310
there's only so much you can control
878
00:34:27.310 --> 00:34:28.030
in terms of messaging.
879
00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:28.630
We know this.
880
00:34:28.969 --> 00:34:30.690
Things get into Iran, into areas
881
00:34:30.690 --> 00:34:33.670
because the internet is, it's too big.
882
00:34:33.730 --> 00:34:35.150
Social media is too big.
883
00:34:35.870 --> 00:34:37.330
Eventually, they're gonna be introduced
884
00:34:37.330 --> 00:34:38.889
to these other ideas and start to question things.
885
00:34:38.929 --> 00:34:40.370
It doesn't mean that they themselves
886
00:34:40.370 --> 00:34:41.969
are not gonna practice Islam,
887
00:34:42.190 --> 00:34:43.290
but they're gonna understand
888
00:34:43.290 --> 00:34:44.370
that we live in a modern world.
889
00:34:44.429 --> 00:34:47.190
And my example was, well, let's look at the Bible.
890
00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.810
If we look at the Old Testament, it was very brutal.
891
00:34:51.630 --> 00:34:53.770
If we practiced Christianity
892
00:34:53.770 --> 00:34:57.030
by the literal Old Testament ways of living,
893
00:34:57.390 --> 00:34:58.970
we'd be in a very different world right now.
894
00:34:58.970 --> 00:35:01.190
We'd probably look closer to what Iran was.
895
00:35:01.390 --> 00:35:01.670
Maybe.
896
00:35:02.670 --> 00:35:03.770
Maybe, I don't know.
897
00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:07.250
But we realized, you have to adapt, you move on.
898
00:35:07.290 --> 00:35:09.430
We can't just stone people.
899
00:35:09.550 --> 00:35:10.830
We can't cut their hands off.
900
00:35:10.830 --> 00:35:11.310
We get it.
901
00:35:11.310 --> 00:35:12.490
There's other ways of dealing with it.
902
00:35:12.490 --> 00:35:13.490
There's still ways to punish
903
00:35:13.490 --> 00:35:14.570
and hold people accountable.
904
00:35:15.290 --> 00:35:17.010
And so that's what I told her.
905
00:35:17.270 --> 00:35:18.650
It's like, there is the difference.
906
00:35:18.990 --> 00:35:20.970
And I think people gotta understand that
907
00:35:20.970 --> 00:35:22.310
because there was a time,
908
00:35:22.430 --> 00:35:24.270
Christianity, before it was called Christianity,
909
00:35:24.270 --> 00:35:25.030
was brutal.
910
00:35:25.870 --> 00:35:28.090
It evolved after Jesus, after the New Testament.
911
00:35:28.150 --> 00:35:30.430
That's pretty much what I think the modern world
912
00:35:30.430 --> 00:35:33.170
was based on, was moving forward the New Testament.
913
00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:34.630
It evolved.
914
00:35:35.110 --> 00:35:36.870
And yes, it's older than Islam.
915
00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:38.130
And I can get into all that,
916
00:35:38.150 --> 00:35:40.530
but let's just let that be for now.
917
00:35:40.750 --> 00:35:44.230
And I think that we need to understand
918
00:35:44.230 --> 00:35:45.590
the world needs to understand
919
00:35:45.590 --> 00:35:48.950
that not all Muslims literally believe
920
00:35:48.950 --> 00:35:51.710
what is being sensationalized in the media.
921
00:35:52.510 --> 00:35:54.630
And we can call it sensationalization,
922
00:35:54.630 --> 00:35:55.770
but at the same time,
923
00:35:55.890 --> 00:35:58.270
I mean, if every time you see a terrorist group
924
00:35:58.270 --> 00:36:00.290
claiming their allegiance to Islam and Allah
925
00:36:00.290 --> 00:36:04.710
and whatever, and they're just committing violent acts
926
00:36:04.710 --> 00:36:06.750
and cutting people's heads off
927
00:36:06.750 --> 00:36:09.930
and cutting their hands and feet off and raping women,
928
00:36:10.890 --> 00:36:13.830
I mean, that's not a good thing.
929
00:36:13.830 --> 00:36:16.110
And that's why you have people believe in what they believe.
930
00:36:16.310 --> 00:36:18.690
And then we have the soft invasion of the West.
931
00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:21.670
And I press Zalal on this too.
932
00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:23.250
It's like, you can't deny
933
00:36:23.250 --> 00:36:25.930
that the people are starting to feel the way they are
934
00:36:25.930 --> 00:36:30.430
because look, if Islam, the way it has been presented,
935
00:36:30.450 --> 00:36:32.410
not saying everybody who practices,
936
00:36:32.490 --> 00:36:33.670
but the way it's been presented
937
00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:38.210
and what we see in extreme Islamic practitioners,
938
00:36:38.830 --> 00:36:41.390
the way that they practice it basically,
939
00:36:41.390 --> 00:36:45.670
is that this invasion of the West,
940
00:36:45.690 --> 00:36:47.190
if they believe that it was so good,
941
00:36:47.210 --> 00:36:48.030
why are they leaving?
942
00:36:48.130 --> 00:36:50.250
Why are they infiltrating the UK?
943
00:36:50.430 --> 00:36:53.170
Why are they wanting to be in the US?
944
00:36:53.350 --> 00:36:56.230
And the thing is, it's not like they want to integrate.
945
00:36:56.310 --> 00:36:59.270
Some have, but you have groups that are literally saying,
946
00:36:59.370 --> 00:37:01.250
we're gonna start our own community,
947
00:37:01.650 --> 00:37:02.770
we're gonna have our own gates,
948
00:37:02.830 --> 00:37:04.450
our own police, our own schools,
949
00:37:04.490 --> 00:37:05.210
we're gonna have our own way.
950
00:37:05.270 --> 00:37:07.370
No, that's you trying to set up a country
951
00:37:07.370 --> 00:37:08.090
within a country.
952
00:37:08.370 --> 00:37:09.230
Let's just call it what it is.
953
00:37:09.230 --> 00:37:10.410
It's a fucking invasion.
954
00:37:11.550 --> 00:37:13.250
You're literally telling the country,
955
00:37:13.530 --> 00:37:15.550
the destination in which you are traveling to
956
00:37:15.550 --> 00:37:18.270
that we're just here to take over
957
00:37:18.270 --> 00:37:19.930
because we're gonna do things our way.
958
00:37:19.970 --> 00:37:21.030
We don't care about your laws.
959
00:37:22.170 --> 00:37:24.290
Or fine, your laws exist outside our gates.
960
00:37:24.610 --> 00:37:26.110
No, that's not how the world works.
961
00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:26.850
That's not how it works.
962
00:37:27.330 --> 00:37:30.790
And that's a huge difference between what's going on
963
00:37:30.790 --> 00:37:33.930
with the immigration coming from South America
964
00:37:33.930 --> 00:37:36.490
and like I said, back in the 60s
965
00:37:36.490 --> 00:37:38.270
when we were talking about the farm workers and stuff,
966
00:37:38.270 --> 00:37:41.170
it's like the people from South America,
967
00:37:41.630 --> 00:37:43.350
Mexican people, Hispanic people,
968
00:37:43.790 --> 00:37:46.890
even people from China and other places that are coming in
969
00:37:46.890 --> 00:37:49.790
came here for a fact is that they wanted this freedom.
970
00:37:50.390 --> 00:37:51.850
They wanted what we have.
971
00:37:52.270 --> 00:37:54.130
They wanna come here and they wanna work.
972
00:37:54.170 --> 00:37:55.350
Whether they get here by boat,
973
00:37:55.370 --> 00:37:56.730
whether they get here by plane,
974
00:37:56.750 --> 00:37:58.510
whether they get here by crossing the border
975
00:37:58.510 --> 00:38:00.510
and over the deserts and all that other stuff,
976
00:38:02.050 --> 00:38:03.170
that's another thing.
977
00:38:05.290 --> 00:38:08.070
But I wanna talk about immigration policy now
978
00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:11.550
is that we've had a problem with this forever, forever,
979
00:38:11.550 --> 00:38:11.990
forever.
980
00:38:12.170 --> 00:38:15.190
Now, you can have your opinion on whether you think
981
00:38:15.190 --> 00:38:17.310
that Trump is too hard on the immigrants.
982
00:38:17.470 --> 00:38:19.130
I happen to think that that way.
983
00:38:19.330 --> 00:38:21.330
I lean that way that I think that
984
00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.030
this broad brushing of immigration
985
00:38:24.030 --> 00:38:25.790
has gone a little bit too far.
986
00:38:26.050 --> 00:38:28.970
I wish that we could kind of pull back the reins
987
00:38:28.970 --> 00:38:30.890
on it or so, but that's not gonna happen
988
00:38:30.890 --> 00:38:34.890
for another three years and maybe not even then.
989
00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:37.850
But the fact of the matter is that we are a nation
990
00:38:37.850 --> 00:38:42.010
of immigrants, but the cultural in your face
991
00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:43.810
of what other people wanna come and do,
992
00:38:43.870 --> 00:38:45.410
like you said about Somalians
993
00:38:45.410 --> 00:38:48.990
and some other people that wanna come in here
994
00:38:48.990 --> 00:38:52.590
is just beyond what we thought about being a melting pot.
995
00:38:53.170 --> 00:38:56.890
So it's like, let's kind of go back to
996
00:38:57.790 --> 00:39:00.050
like when Ellis Island was around.
997
00:39:00.710 --> 00:39:03.370
So they would come in, they would go through Ellis Island,
998
00:39:04.550 --> 00:39:07.090
they would either be quarantined for a while
999
00:39:07.090 --> 00:39:09.850
and then led into the United States
1000
00:39:09.850 --> 00:39:12.430
and they would come in and they would have these boroughs.
1001
00:39:12.570 --> 00:39:15.390
That's where the five boroughs of New York City came in
1002
00:39:15.390 --> 00:39:18.870
because one was Italian, one was Irish,
1003
00:39:18.930 --> 00:39:21.390
one was white people, one was this, one was that.
1004
00:39:22.290 --> 00:39:24.070
And they did kind of set up their own thing.
1005
00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:26.350
I mean, you got the mafia, you got this and that,
1006
00:39:26.350 --> 00:39:29.210
that went on, even got the Irish gangs
1007
00:39:29.210 --> 00:39:29.950
and stuff like that.
1008
00:39:29.970 --> 00:39:33.010
But still, they're looking at Western values,
1009
00:39:33.150 --> 00:39:34.930
they're looking at this melting pot of people
1010
00:39:34.930 --> 00:39:37.730
that actually eventually got together
1011
00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:42.970
and became a people that had similar values.
1012
00:39:43.770 --> 00:39:45.130
And that's what's lacking.
1013
00:39:45.290 --> 00:39:46.970
I think that's what's lacking today
1014
00:39:46.970 --> 00:39:49.410
in our immigration policies and letting people in
1015
00:39:49.410 --> 00:39:51.110
and being able to do these things.
1016
00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:53.110
You've got people down in Texas
1017
00:39:53.110 --> 00:39:55.550
who are trying to set up these communities
1018
00:39:55.550 --> 00:39:56.950
that they don't want anybody in.
1019
00:39:57.210 --> 00:39:59.670
You got places in Minneapolis where you can't go,
1020
00:39:59.750 --> 00:40:01.090
a white person can't go.
1021
00:40:01.090 --> 00:40:05.230
And the law, actually the law of Minneapolis
1022
00:40:05.230 --> 00:40:07.990
will not let them, they say you need to get out of here,
1023
00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:08.950
this is not your place.
1024
00:40:09.390 --> 00:40:11.250
Bullshit, are you kidding me?
1025
00:40:11.610 --> 00:40:15.730
Well, okay, so let's compare and contrast.
1026
00:40:17.350 --> 00:40:18.770
What happened with the immigrants,
1027
00:40:19.690 --> 00:40:22.550
when we're talking about the period with Ellis Island
1028
00:40:22.550 --> 00:40:25.510
and the influx of immigrants, one of the probably,
1029
00:40:25.890 --> 00:40:27.370
I mean, not anymore after Biden,
1030
00:40:27.370 --> 00:40:31.030
but it was one of the largest periods of immigration
1031
00:40:31.030 --> 00:40:33.510
into the United States, but it was very much controlled.
1032
00:40:35.010 --> 00:40:37.930
Now, let's just be honest about something.
1033
00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:41.430
I don't have a problem, and I don't think you do,
1034
00:40:41.530 --> 00:40:43.770
about people having communities.
1035
00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:47.790
But when your community is closing out the nation
1036
00:40:47.790 --> 00:40:52.230
in which you were choosing to set up your home,
1037
00:40:52.730 --> 00:40:55.450
your family, and the rest of your life,
1038
00:40:55.450 --> 00:40:58.130
and you're just putting a big middle finger up
1039
00:40:58.130 --> 00:41:00.290
into the air and saying, fuck America,
1040
00:41:00.510 --> 00:41:03.070
because we're just gonna take what we had here,
1041
00:41:03.730 --> 00:41:06.430
and we're just gonna do it on your land,
1042
00:41:07.010 --> 00:41:08.590
that's basically all you're doing is admitting
1043
00:41:08.590 --> 00:41:11.550
you're just here for economic reasons, that's it.
1044
00:41:11.890 --> 00:41:14.370
And that's the problem that I see right now,
1045
00:41:15.130 --> 00:41:17.530
is that America or the USA has been treated
1046
00:41:17.530 --> 00:41:21.230
more like an economic zone than a land of opportunity
1047
00:41:21.230 --> 00:41:23.270
based on our constitution, our laws,
1048
00:41:23.270 --> 00:41:25.330
and whatever the USA can offer you.
1049
00:41:25.630 --> 00:41:27.670
People just see it as an economic zone, period.
1050
00:41:27.970 --> 00:41:30.410
And that's not what we are, we're not an economic zone.
1051
00:41:31.450 --> 00:41:34.630
When we're talking about Latin America, Mexico,
1052
00:41:35.310 --> 00:41:37.630
most of those people coming here are for economic reasons.
1053
00:41:37.830 --> 00:41:40.310
Look, Mexico is a conundrum to me
1054
00:41:40.310 --> 00:41:42.630
because it's like they have a beautiful capital.
1055
00:41:42.810 --> 00:41:45.450
Mexico City is so modern, so clean, beautiful.
1056
00:41:45.910 --> 00:41:47.990
And then you start getting away from these cities,
1057
00:41:48.330 --> 00:41:52.730
and it's like Mexico is a majority impoverished nation,
1058
00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:53.530
period.
1059
00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:55.830
You know, most of these people are making
1060
00:41:56.690 --> 00:42:00.230
less than $10 a day to live.
1061
00:42:01.090 --> 00:42:02.450
So where are you gonna go?
1062
00:42:02.630 --> 00:42:04.590
Well, my neighbor in the north offers opportunities,
1063
00:42:04.630 --> 00:42:06.830
so they're literally risking their lives
1064
00:42:06.830 --> 00:42:09.030
just to make money to survive.
1065
00:42:09.650 --> 00:42:12.030
I mean, you've got people who have to pay medical bills,
1066
00:42:12.630 --> 00:42:14.950
they're just tired of being oppressed
1067
00:42:14.950 --> 00:42:16.910
and controlled by the cartels in the area.
1068
00:42:17.350 --> 00:42:20.370
And you know, I always put it on the Mexican government.
1069
00:42:20.450 --> 00:42:22.430
I get pushback, I get a lot of comments from people,
1070
00:42:22.430 --> 00:42:24.010
but look, just because you're from Mexico
1071
00:42:24.010 --> 00:42:26.830
doesn't mean you have to ignore the fucking reality, period.
1072
00:42:27.230 --> 00:42:28.910
Doesn't mean that what I'm saying is racist.
1073
00:42:29.050 --> 00:42:29.910
No, it's the truth.
1074
00:42:30.550 --> 00:42:33.270
Your government has been complicit
1075
00:42:33.270 --> 00:42:35.290
and they have done nothing to stamp out
1076
00:42:35.290 --> 00:42:37.270
the power and control of the cartels.
1077
00:42:37.510 --> 00:42:39.030
It's been going on since the late 70s.
1078
00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:41.050
This has been a long time.
1079
00:42:41.170 --> 00:42:42.970
Yep, and the US hasn't helped either, yeah.
1080
00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:44.370
No, well, hold on.
1081
00:42:44.930 --> 00:42:46.110
I was just gonna go there
1082
00:42:46.110 --> 00:42:47.890
because a lot of people want to point the finger
1083
00:42:47.890 --> 00:42:50.230
at the US, but what are the issues
1084
00:42:50.230 --> 00:42:52.290
that they say about the US and not helping?
1085
00:42:52.790 --> 00:42:55.730
They say, oh, well, the US is the number one drug market,
1086
00:42:55.750 --> 00:42:58.750
so it's your fault because all you guys do is consume drugs.
1087
00:42:58.930 --> 00:43:00.510
Oh, well, all the guns come from America,
1088
00:43:00.570 --> 00:43:02.630
so that's the other reason that the cartels are armed.
1089
00:43:02.630 --> 00:43:03.770
No, this is all bullshit.
1090
00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:08.050
Okay, before the opioid epidemic
1091
00:43:08.050 --> 00:43:10.470
by legal pharmaceutical companies,
1092
00:43:11.210 --> 00:43:14.830
we didn't have this epidemic of drug abuse that we see.
1093
00:43:15.550 --> 00:43:18.670
Okay, people got hooked on medications
1094
00:43:18.670 --> 00:43:21.470
that were prescribed by their doctors.
1095
00:43:21.990 --> 00:43:23.590
Opioids got people hooked,
1096
00:43:24.030 --> 00:43:26.170
and then when they started regulating it,
1097
00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:27.510
they were looking for other highs.
1098
00:43:27.990 --> 00:43:29.550
When did cocaine come into the country?
1099
00:43:29.610 --> 00:43:30.310
It was always around,
1100
00:43:30.310 --> 00:43:31.770
but it was really pushed in the late 70s
1101
00:43:31.770 --> 00:43:33.410
and the early 80s.
1102
00:43:33.530 --> 00:43:36.330
Okay, it wasn't around since 1700.
1103
00:43:37.550 --> 00:43:40.070
It's like, no, let's just be honest about these things.
1104
00:43:40.110 --> 00:43:41.970
These markets were created,
1105
00:43:42.790 --> 00:43:44.330
and they were introduced,
1106
00:43:44.350 --> 00:43:46.870
and then once the cartels figured out,
1107
00:43:46.870 --> 00:43:48.410
while these Americans really liked this stuff,
1108
00:43:49.390 --> 00:43:51.450
they did what any other businessman would do.
1109
00:43:51.450 --> 00:43:53.730
They'd go, I want to control and expand this market.
1110
00:43:53.810 --> 00:43:55.610
We're going to make the product even more addicting,
1111
00:43:55.770 --> 00:43:57.210
and we're going to keep pushing it.
1112
00:43:57.470 --> 00:43:58.630
So it's not always the U.S.
1113
00:43:58.970 --> 00:44:00.010
Find the need, fill the need.
1114
00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:02.610
So the thing they ignore is,
1115
00:44:02.630 --> 00:44:04.490
well, it's the U.S.'s fault.
1116
00:44:04.570 --> 00:44:05.250
Same thing with the guns.
1117
00:44:05.350 --> 00:44:06.610
Yeah, sure, Obama fucked up
1118
00:44:06.610 --> 00:44:07.830
with the Fast and Furious thing.
1119
00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:09.390
I don't know what he was thinking with that.
1120
00:44:09.510 --> 00:44:10.730
Like, oh, we'll be able to trace the web.
1121
00:44:10.910 --> 00:44:11.270
How?
1122
00:44:11.430 --> 00:44:12.750
Once it gets past that border,
1123
00:44:12.750 --> 00:44:14.530
how are you really going to have control of that?
1124
00:44:14.970 --> 00:44:18.270
But they also ignore the straw purchases here in the U.S.
1125
00:44:18.370 --> 00:44:19.690
where the cartels, you know,
1126
00:44:19.730 --> 00:44:22.450
they do control the American gangs.
1127
00:44:22.770 --> 00:44:24.150
A lot of people don't want to say that,
1128
00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:25.470
but look, if a cartel member
1129
00:44:25.470 --> 00:44:28.230
comes to an American gang here,
1130
00:44:28.930 --> 00:44:31.390
American Latin gang, and they say, you're doing this,
1131
00:44:31.490 --> 00:44:33.310
you think that gang's going to say, no, cartel,
1132
00:44:33.390 --> 00:44:34.610
you're in Mexico, you have no control?
1133
00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:35.010
Fuck no.
1134
00:44:35.030 --> 00:44:36.410
They're going to be like, yes, sir.
1135
00:44:36.890 --> 00:44:40.130
And so they're using friends and family
1136
00:44:40.130 --> 00:44:42.910
with clean records to go out and buy these weapons.
1137
00:44:42.910 --> 00:44:45.370
And then they get smuggled back into Mexico.
1138
00:44:46.130 --> 00:44:47.150
Some of it comes from Canada.
1139
00:44:47.750 --> 00:44:49.510
Now, going back to drugs, Bruce, you know,
1140
00:44:49.610 --> 00:44:52.390
let's keep blaming the U.S., but let's not also say,
1141
00:44:52.990 --> 00:44:55.470
well, why is it that the cartels are trying to enter
1142
00:44:55.470 --> 00:44:56.930
the European and Asian markets with drugs?
1143
00:44:57.090 --> 00:44:59.590
We have 300 tons of cocaine annually
1144
00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:01.950
that is seized by the Europeans
1145
00:45:01.950 --> 00:45:04.610
that just come from the fucking Mexican cartels.
1146
00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:05.930
And if we're talking about Venezuela,
1147
00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:08.470
we had 250 metric tons of cocaine
1148
00:45:08.470 --> 00:45:12.010
that was shipped out of Venezuela,
1149
00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:14.350
under Venezuelan control while Maduro was there,
1150
00:45:14.450 --> 00:45:16.730
protected by his government and his military
1151
00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:18.650
that went to Asia.
1152
00:45:19.070 --> 00:45:20.790
Asia is the second biggest market right now
1153
00:45:20.790 --> 00:45:23.110
where their cocaine is worth twice the price
1154
00:45:23.110 --> 00:45:24.750
of what it is in America.
1155
00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:26.490
It's a global issue.
1156
00:45:26.730 --> 00:45:27.590
It's a global issue.
1157
00:45:27.890 --> 00:45:30.490
So this finger pointing between America and Mexico
1158
00:45:30.490 --> 00:45:32.450
is stupid to me because like we're neighbors,
1159
00:45:32.450 --> 00:45:33.730
we should be working together.
1160
00:45:35.330 --> 00:45:36.750
Like, why are we fighting?
1161
00:45:36.910 --> 00:45:39.130
Why are we blaming the Americans?
1162
00:45:39.210 --> 00:45:40.650
And why are we blaming the Mexicans?
1163
00:45:40.650 --> 00:45:43.330
No, it's the people didn't do this.
1164
00:45:43.530 --> 00:45:45.830
It was the inaction of our governments
1165
00:45:45.830 --> 00:45:47.770
and complicitness of our governments
1166
00:45:47.770 --> 00:45:49.370
and the inability for us to come together
1167
00:45:49.370 --> 00:45:51.330
and work together that got the cartels
1168
00:45:51.330 --> 00:45:53.310
to the point of where they're at.
1169
00:45:53.750 --> 00:45:57.470
So I would say it's both the US and Mexico's fault.
1170
00:45:58.810 --> 00:46:01.670
And circling back to the drip, drip, drip theory
1171
00:46:01.670 --> 00:46:02.890
that we've been talking about
1172
00:46:02.890 --> 00:46:04.390
is exactly what you're saying.
1173
00:46:04.550 --> 00:46:06.590
It's like over generation, over generation,
1174
00:46:06.650 --> 00:46:08.250
over generation, this has happened.
1175
00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:13.110
I mean, you made a comment about Mexico City
1176
00:46:13.110 --> 00:46:15.010
being this great, big, beautiful city.
1177
00:46:15.250 --> 00:46:17.030
We have great, big, beautiful cities here.
1178
00:46:17.170 --> 00:46:19.050
San Francisco is a great, big, beautiful city.
1179
00:46:19.290 --> 00:46:20.490
No matter what you think about it,
1180
00:46:20.750 --> 00:46:21.630
it's a beautiful city.
1181
00:46:21.750 --> 00:46:22.890
Yeah, architecture is awesome.
1182
00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:24.430
Beautiful city, it's freaking awesome.
1183
00:46:24.890 --> 00:46:27.450
Any kind of metro city is beautiful here
1184
00:46:27.450 --> 00:46:29.830
but as we pan out in America,
1185
00:46:30.370 --> 00:46:32.770
when you go out to Gilroy, Salinas,
1186
00:46:33.210 --> 00:46:36.850
go out to Sacramento, Modesto and stuff like that,
1187
00:46:36.850 --> 00:46:38.970
still beautiful, still modern, still this,
1188
00:46:39.870 --> 00:46:43.190
still everything is technologically connected
1189
00:46:43.190 --> 00:46:45.370
to the cities and everything else.
1190
00:46:45.430 --> 00:46:49.710
The wealth is, the economies are and all that stuff.
1191
00:46:49.830 --> 00:46:51.490
And you don't find that in Mexico.
1192
00:46:51.710 --> 00:46:55.870
You got Mexico City, you got the coastal towns
1193
00:46:55.870 --> 00:46:59.150
that are all turfs and stuff like that.
1194
00:46:59.150 --> 00:47:00.610
But you pull back from there
1195
00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:01.730
and then you hit the ghettos.
1196
00:47:02.370 --> 00:47:04.450
You have the problems,
1197
00:47:04.450 --> 00:47:07.610
you have the cities or towns
1198
00:47:07.610 --> 00:47:09.930
that just don't get any type of that support
1199
00:47:09.930 --> 00:47:13.130
but they find their support within those cities.
1200
00:47:13.190 --> 00:47:15.730
So I mean, it's really, really a far cry
1201
00:47:15.730 --> 00:47:17.810
from what we're used to
1202
00:47:17.810 --> 00:47:20.670
because we're used to go outside of the city,
1203
00:47:20.790 --> 00:47:23.890
you hit the suburbs and everything is just hunky dory
1204
00:47:23.890 --> 00:47:25.310
and we just go along with light.
1205
00:47:25.510 --> 00:47:28.490
I mean, the difference is that if you pull back here,
1206
00:47:28.490 --> 00:47:31.930
at least we still have power, water and methods
1207
00:47:31.930 --> 00:47:34.570
as a means to run an actual small town or city.
1208
00:47:34.690 --> 00:47:36.050
I mean, we may not like them.
1209
00:47:36.050 --> 00:47:38.070
Sure, there's pockets of poverty
1210
00:47:38.770 --> 00:47:42.430
but what you see with Mexico is you have a concentration
1211
00:47:42.430 --> 00:47:44.910
of wealth within a small area considerably
1212
00:47:44.910 --> 00:47:47.010
in relation to the size of Mexico.
1213
00:47:47.250 --> 00:47:48.370
When you start pulling back,
1214
00:47:48.550 --> 00:47:52.490
you have people piecing their houses together.
1215
00:47:52.770 --> 00:47:56.750
You have tents, you have people looking for work
1216
00:47:57.470 --> 00:47:58.770
that they can't find.
1217
00:47:58.770 --> 00:48:02.010
Again, living for $10 or less a day
1218
00:48:02.670 --> 00:48:06.990
and it's like, well, where is the help for those people?
1219
00:48:07.450 --> 00:48:08.150
And I'm not saying they don't.
1220
00:48:08.150 --> 00:48:09.710
I mean, we look at Mexico
1221
00:48:09.710 --> 00:48:11.770
and we look at this great big country
1222
00:48:11.770 --> 00:48:13.630
and we're going like, it's a beautiful country.
1223
00:48:13.890 --> 00:48:15.410
I've seen, I've got friends of mine
1224
00:48:15.410 --> 00:48:18.050
who live in the interior of Mexico
1225
00:48:18.050 --> 00:48:19.450
where there's no cities and stuff.
1226
00:48:19.650 --> 00:48:21.490
It's a beautiful country.
1227
00:48:21.810 --> 00:48:25.210
It has fantastic and just immense resources.
1228
00:48:25.350 --> 00:48:26.430
Just like the United States,
1229
00:48:26.650 --> 00:48:27.670
people think it's just all,
1230
00:48:28.050 --> 00:48:30.830
they think of the spaghetti westerns and all that
1231
00:48:30.830 --> 00:48:35.150
and everything is desert and bandoleros and so on.
1232
00:48:35.290 --> 00:48:36.550
It's not like that.
1233
00:48:36.570 --> 00:48:38.010
It's mountains and it's streams
1234
00:48:38.010 --> 00:48:39.450
and it's this and it's that.
1235
00:48:39.650 --> 00:48:40.810
It's a beautiful country.
1236
00:48:41.090 --> 00:48:43.330
I think it's important for people
1237
00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:46.910
to hold onto their rage and realize
1238
00:48:46.910 --> 00:48:49.450
that just because someone's being critical
1239
00:48:49.450 --> 00:48:53.770
doesn't mean we're basically spewing hate
1240
00:48:53.770 --> 00:48:56.330
and vitriol towards you or your nation.
1241
00:48:56.790 --> 00:48:59.450
I mean, when your own people living there,
1242
00:48:59.910 --> 00:49:01.750
when they finally come out and go, you know what?
1243
00:49:01.790 --> 00:49:03.590
You're kind of right and this is how it is.
1244
00:49:03.590 --> 00:49:04.170
And that happens.
1245
00:49:04.270 --> 00:49:06.150
I've had people come out and say,
1246
00:49:06.190 --> 00:49:09.250
you know, yeah, this is how it is.
1247
00:49:09.450 --> 00:49:11.210
And they want the change you're looking for.
1248
00:49:11.550 --> 00:49:13.110
But if we're talking about Mexico and the US,
1249
00:49:13.190 --> 00:49:15.270
I don't see why Mexico's in the position they are.
1250
00:49:15.550 --> 00:49:16.890
And people will blame Americans and say,
1251
00:49:16.890 --> 00:49:17.910
well, it's because of capitalism.
1252
00:49:18.070 --> 00:49:18.550
And you're taking a bit.
1253
00:49:18.670 --> 00:49:20.550
Well, look, Mexico has many other countries
1254
00:49:20.550 --> 00:49:22.050
they can deal with economically.
1255
00:49:23.430 --> 00:49:25.750
What's stopping them from selling their amazing goods
1256
00:49:25.750 --> 00:49:27.350
and services to other nations?
1257
00:49:28.050 --> 00:49:28.170
Absolutely.
1258
00:49:28.310 --> 00:49:30.910
I mean, Ken, Ken, the cohost on the show says,
1259
00:49:30.910 --> 00:49:32.570
you know, South America is probably
1260
00:49:32.570 --> 00:49:35.090
the greatest emerging nation out of everybody
1261
00:49:35.090 --> 00:49:37.910
because man, the resources that they have down there.
1262
00:49:38.390 --> 00:49:38.890
Tarks of resources.
1263
00:49:39.450 --> 00:49:42.070
Yeah, I mean, that's gonna be an economic power.
1264
00:49:42.250 --> 00:49:43.990
We could be very much, you know,
1265
00:49:44.030 --> 00:49:46.750
in 25 years left behind because South America
1266
00:49:46.750 --> 00:49:49.030
just is ready to explode that way.
1267
00:49:49.550 --> 00:49:49.770
I don't know.
1268
00:49:49.770 --> 00:49:51.530
I just think we should support each other more
1269
00:49:52.190 --> 00:49:53.250
in this hemisphere.
1270
00:49:53.350 --> 00:49:55.210
And again, I'm gonna go back to like,
1271
00:49:55.210 --> 00:49:57.770
why was there the coalition of the Americas
1272
00:49:57.770 --> 00:50:00.950
where we had, you know, all these Latin American nations
1273
00:50:00.950 --> 00:50:04.330
willing to sign and come to an agreement with America
1274
00:50:04.330 --> 00:50:06.630
to literally, for the purpose,
1275
00:50:06.870 --> 00:50:09.430
root out drug cartels and the control of cartels.
1276
00:50:09.450 --> 00:50:11.310
And yet Mexico didn't.
1277
00:50:11.990 --> 00:50:12.570
Yep, yep.
1278
00:50:12.770 --> 00:50:13.210
Why?
1279
00:50:13.690 --> 00:50:14.130
Yep.
1280
00:50:14.430 --> 00:50:15.250
I don't get it.
1281
00:50:15.450 --> 00:50:17.090
So again, we're not gonna bash Mexico.
1282
00:50:17.450 --> 00:50:18.030
It's just-
1283
00:50:18.030 --> 00:50:18.970
No, I don't wanna bash Mexico.
1284
00:50:19.130 --> 00:50:20.910
And I didn't intend to bash Mexico because I-
1285
00:50:20.910 --> 00:50:21.550
No, you're not.
1286
00:50:21.770 --> 00:50:22.570
Maybe I am.
1287
00:50:22.710 --> 00:50:24.610
I'm just saying, I don't wanna bash Mexico.
1288
00:50:24.610 --> 00:50:27.570
I'm just bringing up points based on interviews I've had,
1289
00:50:27.730 --> 00:50:28.910
people I've talked to, people I know.
1290
00:50:29.350 --> 00:50:31.010
I mean, my friends who have family in Mexico,
1291
00:50:31.050 --> 00:50:32.390
like I get info just like you do.
1292
00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:34.590
It's like, this isn't a closed off world.
1293
00:50:35.010 --> 00:50:36.430
And it goes back to what we were talking about
1294
00:50:36.430 --> 00:50:36.830
with Iran.
1295
00:50:36.890 --> 00:50:38.950
As much as they wanna try to close their people off
1296
00:50:38.950 --> 00:50:41.490
from the world, in the modern era,
1297
00:50:41.490 --> 00:50:43.530
it is too hard to do, you know?
1298
00:50:43.730 --> 00:50:45.770
So it's like, let's stop ignoring the truth
1299
00:50:45.770 --> 00:50:47.990
and have real conversations just like we're having.
1300
00:50:48.290 --> 00:50:50.830
That's what we need to do and realize that,
1301
00:50:51.090 --> 00:50:52.490
look, the narratives aren't gonna work anymore.
1302
00:50:52.810 --> 00:50:54.210
You know, people are getting smarter
1303
00:50:54.210 --> 00:50:56.290
or they have more access to information anyway.
1304
00:50:56.730 --> 00:50:58.310
Eventually, they're gonna come across the truth.
1305
00:50:58.950 --> 00:51:01.810
Right, and you've got a good insight on that.
1306
00:51:01.830 --> 00:51:06.110
With the information age and everybody having access
1307
00:51:06.110 --> 00:51:08.670
to this, and I don't care what your social
1308
00:51:08.670 --> 00:51:11.130
and economic status is, you have a cell phone.
1309
00:51:11.410 --> 00:51:13.530
I mean, there's very few places in the world
1310
00:51:13.530 --> 00:51:17.130
that don't have access to the internet and cell phones
1311
00:51:17.130 --> 00:51:19.570
and this media that we've got going forward.
1312
00:51:19.690 --> 00:51:22.030
Now, they might have access to different media
1313
00:51:22.030 --> 00:51:22.850
and stuff like that.
1314
00:51:22.850 --> 00:51:25.510
It's gonna steer their way this way or that way,
1315
00:51:25.690 --> 00:51:27.450
but for the most part, if you're smart enough,
1316
00:51:27.470 --> 00:51:30.390
you can get past that and get to where you need to be.
1317
00:51:31.490 --> 00:51:34.910
With that in mind, I don't know which way,
1318
00:51:35.710 --> 00:51:36.970
and I'm not worried about it.
1319
00:51:37.070 --> 00:51:38.390
I'm 66 years old.
1320
00:51:38.430 --> 00:51:40.630
What have I got, another 15, 20 years on this earth?
1321
00:51:41.050 --> 00:51:41.530
You know?
1322
00:51:41.890 --> 00:51:42.850
Damn, morbid Bruce.
1323
00:51:43.450 --> 00:51:45.250
But for younger- Black-pilled morbid Bruce.
1324
00:51:46.390 --> 00:51:48.970
But for younger people, I mean, that are gonna be,
1325
00:51:49.530 --> 00:51:52.790
that have more years than I do on this earth.
1326
00:51:53.830 --> 00:51:55.170
Where do you think that's going with them?
1327
00:51:55.330 --> 00:51:57.950
Are we looking at it as more of a one world,
1328
00:51:57.950 --> 00:51:58.670
one government?
1329
00:51:58.810 --> 00:51:59.830
Are you worried about that?
1330
00:51:59.850 --> 00:52:01.730
Or do you think that we're still gonna be
1331
00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:03.830
independent nations going forward?
1332
00:52:04.110 --> 00:52:04.730
What do you think?
1333
00:52:04.870 --> 00:52:09.330
The only thing I worry about with that direction
1334
00:52:09.330 --> 00:52:12.970
is the lack of uniqueness and the abolishment
1335
00:52:12.970 --> 00:52:13.730
of culture.
1336
00:52:14.630 --> 00:52:16.210
That's the problem that I see,
1337
00:52:16.210 --> 00:52:17.890
and that's what we see now.
1338
00:52:17.890 --> 00:52:20.430
Like we were just talking about the three generations
1339
00:52:20.430 --> 00:52:24.750
removed in the USA and how everything is going
1340
00:52:24.750 --> 00:52:29.230
towards open borders, no culture,
1341
00:52:29.770 --> 00:52:32.710
or the accusation of anybody in America
1342
00:52:32.710 --> 00:52:35.090
that is why it steals everybody else's culture.
1343
00:52:35.870 --> 00:52:40.490
And it's like, no, there are differences.
1344
00:52:41.190 --> 00:52:43.110
America absolutely does have a culture.
1345
00:52:44.330 --> 00:52:49.150
And if we keep moving towards this agenda,
1346
00:52:49.530 --> 00:52:52.190
it's being pushed by the WEF, for example,
1347
00:52:53.390 --> 00:52:55.350
we're not gonna have any uniqueness anymore.
1348
00:52:55.470 --> 00:52:56.430
It's just gonna be like,
1349
00:52:56.510 --> 00:52:58.030
we're gonna look like a giant,
1350
00:52:58.750 --> 00:52:59.870
look what we see in America.
1351
00:52:59.990 --> 00:53:01.050
Like we go from city to city.
1352
00:53:01.450 --> 00:53:04.010
We're even losing that uniqueness with our small towns.
1353
00:53:04.410 --> 00:53:07.250
It's like, you're just gonna see it all be
1354
00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:09.810
Best Buy's, Home Depot's, and McDonald's everywhere.
1355
00:53:10.390 --> 00:53:11.810
Everyone's gonna be wearing the same clothes.
1356
00:53:11.830 --> 00:53:12.930
They're gonna have the same talk.
1357
00:53:12.930 --> 00:53:15.450
It's gonna be a very boring, stale world
1358
00:53:15.450 --> 00:53:18.250
if we can't hold onto our cultures
1359
00:53:18.250 --> 00:53:19.830
and what makes everything unique.
1360
00:53:20.130 --> 00:53:22.410
And it's not like we should be fighting against each other.
1361
00:53:22.510 --> 00:53:23.610
Like my culture is better than yours.
1362
00:53:23.650 --> 00:53:24.390
You're white, I'm brown.
1363
00:53:24.470 --> 00:53:25.410
No, fuck all that.
1364
00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:28.250
We should be able to enjoy what we have to offer.
1365
00:53:28.570 --> 00:53:31.410
And if it gets melded together at some point,
1366
00:53:31.430 --> 00:53:32.270
just like it did in America,
1367
00:53:32.410 --> 00:53:33.770
like we could say Italian food from Italy
1368
00:53:33.770 --> 00:53:35.830
is not the Italian food in America.
1369
00:53:35.870 --> 00:53:36.730
Well, of course it's not
1370
00:53:36.730 --> 00:53:38.090
because those immigrants had to work
1371
00:53:38.090 --> 00:53:39.210
with what they had here.
1372
00:53:39.550 --> 00:53:41.650
And they did a great job at making,
1373
00:53:41.650 --> 00:53:43.290
it's called American town food, I don't care.
1374
00:53:43.410 --> 00:53:44.750
It's delicious, I like it, whatever.
1375
00:53:46.110 --> 00:53:47.970
Same thing with Mexican food and Mexican culture.
1376
00:53:48.070 --> 00:53:49.530
Some of the music, I can't understand it,
1377
00:53:49.530 --> 00:53:50.710
but you can't deny it.
1378
00:53:50.730 --> 00:53:52.490
It doesn't have some beat and rhythm to it, right?
1379
00:53:52.970 --> 00:53:54.390
When you get going, you see a bunch of people dancing.
1380
00:53:54.430 --> 00:53:54.870
You're kind of like,
1381
00:53:54.950 --> 00:53:56.370
I'm cool, I got a few tequilas in, let's go.
1382
00:53:56.770 --> 00:53:59.650
And then the food, who could deny the food?
1383
00:53:59.690 --> 00:54:00.510
Let's just be honest.
1384
00:54:00.810 --> 00:54:03.910
But the problem is is that every business
1385
00:54:03.910 --> 00:54:07.030
that shuts down here in California becomes a tapiria.
1386
00:54:07.310 --> 00:54:08.890
Yeah, I know that, yeah.
1387
00:54:09.570 --> 00:54:10.970
But see, there's the other danger.
1388
00:54:10.970 --> 00:54:13.610
It's like, this goes back to what we were talking about
1389
00:54:13.610 --> 00:54:15.530
with the open borders and America being viewed
1390
00:54:15.530 --> 00:54:16.670
as an economic zone.
1391
00:54:17.130 --> 00:54:18.850
Do we want America to become Mexico?
1392
00:54:18.910 --> 00:54:22.610
Do we want America to become the Middle East?
1393
00:54:22.950 --> 00:54:24.650
Because that seems to be where it's heading.
1394
00:54:25.650 --> 00:54:28.010
You know, and it's because we've been conditioned
1395
00:54:28.010 --> 00:54:31.090
to believe that we should feel bad
1396
00:54:31.090 --> 00:54:33.030
about calling these things out.
1397
00:54:33.730 --> 00:54:35.790
Like, and especially when it comes to skin color.
1398
00:54:35.910 --> 00:54:37.290
Oh, you're white, you don't have an opinion.
1399
00:54:37.310 --> 00:54:38.390
You're an oppressor.
1400
00:54:38.530 --> 00:54:40.470
You're the reason the world is wrong.
1401
00:54:40.970 --> 00:54:43.750
Like, no, I don't know how many white people
1402
00:54:43.750 --> 00:54:46.690
are trying to invade the Middle East right now
1403
00:54:46.690 --> 00:54:48.430
to set up shop and raise their families.
1404
00:54:48.430 --> 00:54:49.090
I'm sorry.
1405
00:54:49.670 --> 00:54:51.810
You know, it's the other way around.
1406
00:54:52.750 --> 00:54:53.870
It really is.
1407
00:54:54.450 --> 00:54:56.170
I can see the argument for like,
1408
00:54:56.210 --> 00:54:56.970
sure, there's some white people
1409
00:54:56.970 --> 00:54:57.870
who would love to live in Mexico,
1410
00:54:57.870 --> 00:55:00.330
but the reason why your tourism is down
1411
00:55:00.330 --> 00:55:01.270
is because you can't control
1412
00:55:01.270 --> 00:55:02.530
what's going on with your cartels.
1413
00:55:03.350 --> 00:55:07.910
And so my fear is we're gonna lose our uniqueness.
1414
00:55:08.110 --> 00:55:09.670
We're gonna lose our cultures across the world,
1415
00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:10.810
by the way, and not just say in America.
1416
00:55:10.810 --> 00:55:11.590
It's gonna happen.
1417
00:55:12.090 --> 00:55:14.130
It's gonna spread that way.
1418
00:55:15.290 --> 00:55:16.690
And that we're just gonna become,
1419
00:55:17.870 --> 00:55:19.270
our history is gonna be wiped away.
1420
00:55:19.590 --> 00:55:20.510
Like, nothing's gonna exist.
1421
00:55:20.530 --> 00:55:21.970
It's just gonna be like a big reset,
1422
00:55:21.990 --> 00:55:23.310
which is exactly what they wanna do.
1423
00:55:23.450 --> 00:55:25.910
One world government, they wanna reset the world,
1424
00:55:26.650 --> 00:55:29.190
and they wanna be able, well, let's just be honest.
1425
00:55:29.270 --> 00:55:30.590
It's easier to control everybody
1426
00:55:30.590 --> 00:55:32.390
if they're all of the same mindset
1427
00:55:32.390 --> 00:55:33.970
and all travel in the same direction, right?
1428
00:55:37.030 --> 00:55:40.630
But I'm still kind of confused on the cultures
1429
00:55:40.630 --> 00:55:42.870
because we're always gonna have culture.
1430
00:55:42.970 --> 00:55:45.090
There's always gonna be the Mexican culture.
1431
00:55:45.150 --> 00:55:48.870
There's always gonna be the Middle East culture.
1432
00:55:48.930 --> 00:55:50.590
There's always gonna be the UK culture.
1433
00:55:50.650 --> 00:55:53.170
There's always gonna be the Irish culture,
1434
00:55:53.210 --> 00:55:54.250
the Italian culture.
1435
00:55:54.450 --> 00:55:59.970
I mean, I don't know how you get rid of that sliver
1436
00:55:59.970 --> 00:56:01.850
that's gonna always be in there.
1437
00:56:01.850 --> 00:56:04.890
Easily, through the soft invasion we're seeing
1438
00:56:05.810 --> 00:56:08.190
of the mass migration or immigration
1439
00:56:08.190 --> 00:56:10.790
of Middle Eastern peoples, Muslims,
1440
00:56:11.510 --> 00:56:13.290
and through open border policies.
1441
00:56:14.810 --> 00:56:15.750
Let's just be honest.
1442
00:56:15.850 --> 00:56:18.530
I mean, it just comes down to how many babies
1443
00:56:18.530 --> 00:56:19.410
are white people having?
1444
00:56:20.610 --> 00:56:22.030
True, true.
1445
00:56:22.470 --> 00:56:23.510
They're getting bred out.
1446
00:56:24.070 --> 00:56:26.950
I mean, when does the,
1447
00:56:26.950 --> 00:56:30.450
when does the, let me say, the me and yous
1448
00:56:30.450 --> 00:56:34.250
that think it's abhorrent for somebody
1449
00:56:34.250 --> 00:56:36.230
to marry an eight-year-old or a 12-year-old
1450
00:56:36.230 --> 00:56:37.810
or to rape a woman. Three generations.
1451
00:56:37.810 --> 00:56:42.270
I mean, but I mean, that's what I'm saying.
1452
00:56:42.650 --> 00:56:43.270
Yeah, I understand.
1453
00:56:43.430 --> 00:56:49.450
And again, it'll happen once the culture in place
1454
00:56:49.450 --> 00:56:52.050
is outnumbered by the invading culture.
1455
00:56:52.650 --> 00:56:55.190
And then, you know, let's also look at media.
1456
00:56:56.530 --> 00:56:58.950
How long has it been in movies and TV shows
1457
00:56:58.950 --> 00:57:02.250
where it's all about mixing races
1458
00:57:03.050 --> 00:57:06.710
and mixing cultures like, you know,
1459
00:57:06.710 --> 00:57:08.310
brown person marries white girl,
1460
00:57:08.390 --> 00:57:09.650
white girl marries black guy.
1461
00:57:09.670 --> 00:57:10.970
And I don't care about that, by the way.
1462
00:57:11.010 --> 00:57:13.990
I'm just bringing it up as an example
1463
00:57:13.990 --> 00:57:17.730
of subtle messaging that over time conditions you.
1464
00:57:18.350 --> 00:57:19.510
I don't have anything against that, Bruce.
1465
00:57:19.690 --> 00:57:21.250
So I just want to throw that out there.
1466
00:57:21.610 --> 00:57:26.810
But it is one of the subtleties in messaging
1467
00:57:26.810 --> 00:57:28.970
that has been pushed in America
1468
00:57:28.970 --> 00:57:30.450
and the world for a long time.
1469
00:57:31.210 --> 00:57:33.130
The problem is, is you only really see
1470
00:57:33.130 --> 00:57:35.410
that acceptance in Western nations.
1471
00:57:36.530 --> 00:57:38.870
You're not really seeing that in other nations
1472
00:57:38.870 --> 00:57:39.650
for some reason.
1473
00:57:40.370 --> 00:57:42.610
And if we don't comply with that idea,
1474
00:57:43.490 --> 00:57:44.890
then we're the racist people.
1475
00:57:45.390 --> 00:57:46.330
I get it, I get it.
1476
00:57:46.350 --> 00:57:49.590
Because we see the sensationalization of it
1477
00:57:49.590 --> 00:57:50.950
in the UK where they're going like,
1478
00:57:51.070 --> 00:57:53.290
oh, they're raping our women on the streets,
1479
00:57:53.390 --> 00:57:55.290
you know, the people coming in here.
1480
00:57:55.630 --> 00:57:58.470
And then those same leaders are going like,
1481
00:57:58.570 --> 00:58:00.330
well, you know, we've got to let them do
1482
00:58:00.330 --> 00:58:02.370
what they need to do and this and that.
1483
00:58:02.370 --> 00:58:05.750
That really, really bothers me a lot.
1484
00:58:06.230 --> 00:58:08.410
It's wrong, it's wrong, it's wrong.
1485
00:58:08.550 --> 00:58:10.830
And I don't know if it's going to happen
1486
00:58:10.830 --> 00:58:13.770
in my timeframe, basically, you know,
1487
00:58:13.770 --> 00:58:15.070
where it's going to be accepted.
1488
00:58:15.290 --> 00:58:16.910
You know, 15, 20 years from now
1489
00:58:16.910 --> 00:58:19.490
when I'm watching TV going like, ah, whatever.
1490
00:58:20.070 --> 00:58:22.690
You know, and I never want to get that way.
1491
00:58:22.690 --> 00:58:23.070
Yeah.
1492
00:58:23.570 --> 00:58:24.070
It's scary.
1493
00:58:25.550 --> 00:58:28.470
There's no moral, there is no moral argument
1494
00:58:28.470 --> 00:58:33.030
for any human to make a case for marrying an eight-year-old
1495
00:58:34.110 --> 00:58:35.810
and raping women.
1496
00:58:37.530 --> 00:58:39.030
There just isn't, I'm sorry.
1497
00:58:39.810 --> 00:58:41.610
You know, the only reason you're doing that
1498
00:58:41.610 --> 00:58:44.570
is because you're trying to capture a culture
1499
00:58:44.570 --> 00:58:48.770
and a people and you're trying to stamp them out
1500
00:58:48.770 --> 00:58:49.750
through reproduction.
1501
00:58:50.430 --> 00:58:51.190
That's it.
1502
00:58:51.430 --> 00:58:53.330
You're just trying to impregnate the world
1503
00:58:53.950 --> 00:58:57.350
to have more people of your ilk born
1504
00:58:57.350 --> 00:59:01.530
that you can capture, condition, control, program,
1505
00:59:01.670 --> 00:59:02.850
and release out into the world.
1506
00:59:03.150 --> 00:59:05.850
This is a tactic used to do exactly
1507
00:59:05.850 --> 00:59:07.270
what you and I are talking about,
1508
00:59:07.550 --> 00:59:09.730
which is to change the culture and change the world
1509
00:59:09.730 --> 00:59:13.610
to become more of a singular worldview,
1510
00:59:13.810 --> 00:59:15.510
a singular mindset.
1511
00:59:16.090 --> 00:59:18.870
You know, like, this has been talked about
1512
00:59:18.870 --> 00:59:20.810
as far back as the Star Trek stories,
1513
00:59:20.810 --> 00:59:22.910
except they paint a utopian view
1514
00:59:22.910 --> 00:59:23.570
of what the world could be.
1515
00:59:23.730 --> 00:59:24.170
Exactly.
1516
00:59:24.330 --> 00:59:29.070
But I don't think that's what's gonna happen here
1517
00:59:29.070 --> 00:59:32.450
because it's gonna backfire on those who are in control
1518
00:59:32.450 --> 00:59:33.510
and pulling the strings.
1519
00:59:34.370 --> 00:59:35.030
It just is.
1520
00:59:35.590 --> 00:59:37.570
I think before I let you go,
1521
00:59:37.750 --> 00:59:40.010
because we both have to be respectful of time today,
1522
00:59:41.030 --> 00:59:43.430
is I don't wanna say who's gonna win,
1523
00:59:43.450 --> 00:59:44.330
who's gonna lose,
1524
00:59:44.390 --> 00:59:46.710
but where do you see us 10 years from now?
1525
00:59:47.110 --> 00:59:48.050
Where do you see the US?
1526
00:59:48.130 --> 00:59:49.710
Where do you see the world 10 years from now?
1527
00:59:50.830 --> 00:59:51.890
I don't know.
1528
00:59:53.650 --> 00:59:59.270
I think unless Western nations can stand up
1529
01:00:00.090 --> 01:00:02.890
to all the craziness and realize
1530
01:00:02.890 --> 01:00:04.630
that they gotta preserve who they are
1531
01:00:04.630 --> 01:00:05.850
and preserve their cultures,
1532
01:00:05.910 --> 01:00:09.390
even if it's a melting pot, as most people will say,
1533
01:00:10.310 --> 01:00:12.190
if they don't start doing that,
1534
01:00:12.190 --> 01:00:13.950
I think you're gonna see the destruction
1535
01:00:13.950 --> 01:00:14.870
of Western nations.
1536
01:00:15.050 --> 01:00:17.650
And honestly, you're probably either gonna see
1537
01:00:17.650 --> 01:00:19.490
a world controlled by communist China,
1538
01:00:19.490 --> 01:00:25.170
or it's gonna be a world under the thumb of Islam, period.
1539
01:00:26.250 --> 01:00:30.290
And I don't care about how anybody else feels about this
1540
01:00:30.290 --> 01:00:31.490
because you can see it.
1541
01:00:31.550 --> 01:00:32.930
We're on that trajectory.
1542
01:00:34.030 --> 01:00:36.750
And people hate Trump for what he's doing right now.
1543
01:00:37.250 --> 01:00:39.030
Well, if more of our presidents
1544
01:00:39.030 --> 01:00:42.210
would have treated foreign policy the way he has,
1545
01:00:42.870 --> 01:00:44.530
we wouldn't be having these conversations.
1546
01:00:45.890 --> 01:00:47.850
But yeah, I see the decline of Western nations.
1547
01:00:47.850 --> 01:00:53.710
I see that if we don't stick to our guns, so to speak,
1548
01:00:54.350 --> 01:00:56.390
put our foot down and protect our own cultures,
1549
01:00:56.570 --> 01:00:58.910
our own sovereignty, our borders, and our way of life,
1550
01:00:59.030 --> 01:01:01.090
it's gonna be either a world ran by China
1551
01:01:01.090 --> 01:01:03.710
or it's gonna be a world under the thumb of Islam,
1552
01:01:03.710 --> 01:01:04.070
period.
1553
01:01:04.570 --> 01:01:06.870
Yeah, pretty sobering when you come to that.
1554
01:01:06.990 --> 01:01:10.310
I like to make the argument that the Western nations
1555
01:01:10.310 --> 01:01:13.250
seem to be so powerful in their armament,
1556
01:01:13.270 --> 01:01:15.610
in their militaries, and their resolve
1557
01:01:15.610 --> 01:01:17.090
as far as our social issues
1558
01:01:17.090 --> 01:01:19.810
and people that have moral values
1559
01:01:19.810 --> 01:01:23.270
that differ than the other values of nations
1560
01:01:23.270 --> 01:01:26.490
that wanna come in and infiltrate our countries.
1561
01:01:27.490 --> 01:01:31.930
But that strength and everything else has a weakness to it.
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01:01:31.950 --> 01:01:36.190
And I think that we're just coming to our weaknesses,
1563
01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:36.650
really.
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01:01:37.130 --> 01:01:42.290
The only thing I can say that might turn the tide quicker
1565
01:01:43.550 --> 01:01:45.890
is a lot of people don't realize
1566
01:01:45.890 --> 01:01:49.790
that the UK was a huge empire at one time.
1567
01:01:49.890 --> 01:01:51.610
And if you look at their history,
1568
01:01:53.330 --> 01:01:55.570
there are proud people and there are people
1569
01:01:55.570 --> 01:01:57.030
that literally didn't take any shit.
1570
01:01:58.330 --> 01:02:00.630
I think it's gonna get to the point
1571
01:02:00.630 --> 01:02:05.290
where you're not gonna be able to control the people
1572
01:02:05.290 --> 01:02:07.490
in the UK much longer,
1573
01:02:08.110 --> 01:02:10.950
and hopefully they rise up and become what they were.
1574
01:02:10.950 --> 01:02:13.910
And then that's a people that is just gonna be like,
1575
01:02:13.910 --> 01:02:15.010
nope, this ain't happening.
1576
01:02:15.710 --> 01:02:17.190
We're putting our foot down.
1577
01:02:17.230 --> 01:02:19.370
We're taking our nation
1578
01:02:19.370 --> 01:02:22.350
and we're going to help our European neighbors
1579
01:02:22.350 --> 01:02:23.650
take their nations back.
1580
01:02:24.230 --> 01:02:26.350
And also the US, let's just be honest.
1581
01:02:26.430 --> 01:02:29.170
I mean, for as fickle as we seem,
1582
01:02:29.890 --> 01:02:33.330
for as much as we're the country of acceptance
1583
01:02:33.330 --> 01:02:34.770
and empathy and whatever,
1584
01:02:37.730 --> 01:02:40.990
we have a history of you push us hard enough,
1585
01:02:42.490 --> 01:02:45.970
we're gonna snap, you're not gonna like the retaliation.
1586
01:02:46.490 --> 01:02:48.770
There's a straw that definitely breaks the camel's back.
1587
01:02:48.930 --> 01:02:49.870
And I think we're there.
1588
01:02:50.850 --> 01:02:56.010
And I have the same hope that you do.
1589
01:02:56.110 --> 01:02:57.030
I mean, I really do.
1590
01:02:57.150 --> 01:02:59.210
I think that there's a point,
1591
01:02:59.510 --> 01:03:01.050
and we might be at that point,
1592
01:03:05.510 --> 01:03:07.030
let's circle back to Trump.
1593
01:03:08.210 --> 01:03:09.830
I think it's a good thing that he's there
1594
01:03:10.390 --> 01:03:12.730
because of the fact that all of our other leaders
1595
01:03:12.730 --> 01:03:14.990
seem to lack the moral fortitude
1596
01:03:14.990 --> 01:03:16.710
or the intestinal fortitude
1597
01:03:16.710 --> 01:03:18.750
to go ahead and push something like this.
1598
01:03:18.910 --> 01:03:20.890
I mean, it's been coming for a long time.
1599
01:03:21.170 --> 01:03:23.530
And whether or not he did it or not,
1600
01:03:23.610 --> 01:03:25.470
I think there was an eventual fact
1601
01:03:25.470 --> 01:03:27.130
that we would have done it ourselves.
1602
01:03:27.170 --> 01:03:28.250
It was gonna happen.
1603
01:03:28.570 --> 01:03:30.610
Yeah, it was gonna happen one way or the other.
1604
01:03:31.530 --> 01:03:34.550
Hey, George, man, it's been great talking to you, man.
1605
01:03:34.550 --> 01:03:38.030
I love having freaking coffee conversation with you, man.
1606
01:03:38.110 --> 01:03:39.890
It was fantastic having you on the show.
1607
01:03:40.350 --> 01:03:41.450
You can do more of them, let me know.
1608
01:03:41.510 --> 01:03:42.270
You got my number.
1609
01:03:42.870 --> 01:03:44.390
Let's just set them up, man.
1610
01:03:44.490 --> 01:03:45.030
You never know.
1611
01:03:45.350 --> 01:03:46.350
Just say, hey, let's have a chat.
1612
01:03:47.030 --> 01:03:49.750
Yeah, tell everybody about your podcast.
1613
01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:55.150
The podcast, World of Blaze with George Fonz.
1614
01:03:56.070 --> 01:04:00.490
Yeah, no, you could find it at worldofblazepodcast.com
1615
01:04:01.050 --> 01:04:02.550
and it's a mix of things.
1616
01:04:02.570 --> 01:04:03.950
It's a mix of my solo episodes,
1617
01:04:03.950 --> 01:04:09.030
which can be a little more to the point, to say the least.
1618
01:04:09.610 --> 01:04:11.610
You see a little slightly different personality,
1619
01:04:11.670 --> 01:04:13.730
but I'm also open to talking to everybody
1620
01:04:13.730 --> 01:04:14.650
I wanna hear all sides.
1621
01:04:14.810 --> 01:04:15.830
So if you're interested in some
1622
01:04:15.830 --> 01:04:18.690
that actually discusses the issues
1623
01:04:18.690 --> 01:04:21.350
while also getting out of my bubble
1624
01:04:21.350 --> 01:04:22.630
and getting outside echo chambers
1625
01:04:22.630 --> 01:04:24.210
and talking to people across the aisle,
1626
01:04:24.550 --> 01:04:25.770
then I think that's the podcast
1627
01:04:25.770 --> 01:04:28.410
you would really want to listen to.
1628
01:04:28.950 --> 01:04:30.150
So yeah, I'm gonna say that.
1629
01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:31.490
And I'm horrible at social media,
1630
01:04:31.490 --> 01:04:33.750
but look, I'm on X, I'm on Instagram,
1631
01:04:34.470 --> 01:04:37.490
I'm on Substack, handle is at Fonzablaze.
1632
01:04:37.610 --> 01:04:38.470
I don't push it.
1633
01:04:38.950 --> 01:04:40.110
I don't know why I don't.
1634
01:04:40.310 --> 01:04:41.870
So you may not see a lot of followers,
1635
01:04:41.870 --> 01:04:43.530
but the podcast does pretty well.
1636
01:04:43.930 --> 01:04:45.690
So yeah, check it out.
1637
01:04:46.130 --> 01:04:47.050
Let me know what you think.
1638
01:04:47.490 --> 01:04:49.290
And John Chamego would be screaming at you.
1639
01:04:49.410 --> 01:04:51.470
You gotta share everything, man.
1640
01:04:51.550 --> 01:04:52.290
You gotta share.
1641
01:04:52.610 --> 01:04:54.990
Yeah, I mean, look, I only have so much bandwidth.
1642
01:04:56.190 --> 01:04:58.110
I've got sponsors I'm trying to work with.
1643
01:04:58.210 --> 01:04:59.610
I still haven't gotten around
1644
01:04:59.610 --> 01:05:06.610
to putting my commercials and my overlays
1645
01:05:06.610 --> 01:05:07.450
and whatnot together.
1646
01:05:07.610 --> 01:05:08.650
I just, it's time.
1647
01:05:08.890 --> 01:05:11.450
I mean, look, this isn't a full-time job for me.
1648
01:05:11.490 --> 01:05:11.770
It's just not.
1649
01:05:11.790 --> 01:05:14.230
We need your time, talent, and treasure, guys out there.
1650
01:05:14.310 --> 01:05:15.650
Give us your time, talent, and treasure,
1651
01:05:15.750 --> 01:05:16.630
but we'll take it.
1652
01:05:16.630 --> 01:05:17.230
We'll take it.
1653
01:05:17.230 --> 01:05:18.670
It's just as good as a sponsorship.
1654
01:05:19.430 --> 01:05:19.830
Absolutely.
1655
01:05:20.310 --> 01:05:22.790
I know that you're going on live tonight
1656
01:05:22.790 --> 01:05:23.930
with the RazorWire.
1657
01:05:24.050 --> 01:05:25.850
This will probably go out tomorrow,
1658
01:05:25.990 --> 01:05:28.190
but for RazorWire, you're going on.
1659
01:05:28.190 --> 01:05:29.890
So go out there and listen to George.
1660
01:05:30.270 --> 01:05:31.970
If you have to have more, George,
1661
01:05:32.310 --> 01:05:33.430
go see him on RazorWire.
1662
01:05:33.470 --> 01:05:35.190
I don't know if anyone has to have more of me,
1663
01:05:35.830 --> 01:05:38.970
but no, it'll be a fun time on RazorWire.
1664
01:05:39.570 --> 01:05:41.390
And you and I, I mean, honestly,
1665
01:05:41.710 --> 01:05:44.090
we're geographically not that far apart whatsoever.
1666
01:05:44.710 --> 01:05:46.150
So yeah, if you want to set more of these up,
1667
01:05:46.270 --> 01:05:46.750
sure, man.
1668
01:05:46.950 --> 01:05:47.810
I'm always open.
1669
01:05:48.590 --> 01:05:49.450
Absolutely, absolutely.
1670
01:05:49.570 --> 01:05:52.970
And catch us on the morning show on Road Race 101.
1671
01:05:53.070 --> 01:05:54.790
You can get that wherever you want to,
1672
01:05:54.790 --> 01:05:59.030
on X and on any other audio podcasting program
1673
01:05:59.470 --> 01:06:00.850
or app that you have.
1674
01:06:01.430 --> 01:06:02.570
And we'll be back again,
1675
01:06:02.650 --> 01:06:04.310
probably in another month with the Razor Report.
1676
01:06:04.470 --> 01:06:05.210
Maybe Ken will be back.
1677
01:06:05.310 --> 01:06:06.490
Maybe somebody else will be back,
1678
01:06:06.510 --> 01:06:08.070
but we'll definitely have another copy chat.
1679
01:06:08.150 --> 01:06:10.090
So we'll see you later and have a good one
1680
01:06:10.090 --> 01:06:11.690
and take care and go get yourself
1681
01:06:11.690 --> 01:06:15.470
some Colacumcraft coffee and be American.
1682
01:06:15.670 --> 01:06:16.430
Be American.
1683
01:06:16.690 --> 01:06:16.850
All right.
1684
01:06:16.970 --> 01:06:18.210
And drink it from America's cup.
1685
01:06:18.410 --> 01:06:18.570
All right.
1686
01:06:18.710 --> 01:06:19.070
Absolutely.

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