Blake Fischer - The Homeless Conservative

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Bush. All right, welcome back around to Blaze's audience today.

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I have Blake Fish with me. He's homeless. It's sterrifically

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homeless anyway, metaphorically. Yeah, also the Homeless Conservative podcast. And

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from what I can tell, from what I can find,

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you've been at this for is it two years or

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is a little longer?

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A little longer, but basically two years? Yeah, I started

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a couple summers ago.

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Okay. I was wondering about that because when I was

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listening to your show and looking at kind of what

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you're doing, we're a little similar, except I use a

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lot more colorful language than you do. From what I notice, Yeah,

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you're a lot more reserved than I am when it

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comes to that.

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It's because I know my mom listens, and I know

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she'll get onto me if I know. I mean, it's

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also just sort of my personality. I guess I mostly

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curse at myself in real life, not at other people.

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I hear you, Why don't you explain? Because the reason

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I want you to explain why you conser yourself homeless

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because I believe, uh, where you're at right now represents

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a lot of America. To be quite honest, I feel

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I feel like a lot of people don't believe they're

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necessarily like right or left. Necessarily they have like a

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leaning right, maybe a proclivity towards certain beliefs or certain

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ways of living, but not necessarily like all the way

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over the fence anymore. And then that's kind of my take.

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I wonder what led you to where you're at now?

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It will?

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I mean, so, I've been interested in politics for a

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really long time. I would say I'm a political junkie,

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and I have been for much longer than normal people are.

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And I do it, and I'm I would not suggest

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most people pay as close attention as I do. I

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don't think it would actually be healthy if everyone did.

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I don't think everyone needs to. And so it's not

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especially if you, especially if you don't like put some

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guardrails up to like things that I'm not going to

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read because they're just going to make me furious all

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the time.

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Stuff.

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So, you know, I've always been interested in stuff, but

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I've always been really interested in the ideas and principles.

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And I spent my teens and twenties, you know, arguing

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with friends, and I spent my twenties in a band.

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So pre iPhone, you had a lot of time to

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just like be in the car talking with people. Right,

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So I had these kind of discussions with friends all

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the time that I disagreed with. It was never not

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civil like. It was always like I was a friends

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a musician. Most of my friends are more liberal than

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I am. Just the nature of that, right, the arts

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and stuff. I live in Oklahoma, the reddest state in

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the country. If you're looking at like the last three

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elections have been every single county went Republican. So there's

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not much, you know, that's very much. You are in

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one of those two worlds, and there is maybe less

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of the middle thing you were talking about as far

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as the nuance there. But the point is I can

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have these conversations with anyone. And then I felt like

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Donald Trump came along, and he's he's a symptom of

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the problem, but not sort of escalated under him to

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where the Republican Party specifically stopped being about ideas and

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it started being about whatever he said and that might

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change day to day, and we were abandoning things that

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I really cared about, like I think the Constitution is

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the thing that matters, and if it's not that way

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in the Constitution and we're doing it a different way

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and it's not working.

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Well.

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It's like, well, maybe we should do it the way

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that the Constitution says we'd do it. And so I

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don't like the executive branch getting more and more powerful

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all the time, and the parties just conceding that power

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to them from Congress, which is supposed to be the

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more powerful branch. Like by every they're not co equal,

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Like Congress has way more powers written in the Constitution

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than either of the other branches, and they just like

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over decades and decades, I mean really it's going back

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one hundred years, they've just slowly capitulated that. And I

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felt like it really ramped up with Trump specifically, and

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I could just see the writing on the walls of like,

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this does not end well, because all this does is

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give someone else permission to do the bad thing, and

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then because they do the bad thing, Replicans come back

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and go, well, Biden did the bad thing, and so

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it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. And

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at the same time that that was happening, where I

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was just worried about some of the procedural and institutional

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things that were going on under Trump, that I could

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be like, even if I agree with him on the

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principle here that we're talking about, like I would be like,

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for example, I would say, I am not in this,

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I'm not really in the middle. I'm very conservative. But

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that definition is changed completely, Like now the definition of

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conservative is do you are you maga?

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Are?

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Do you support every single thing that Trump says, even

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if it's different than the thing you said yesterday. Conservative

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is saying I think the Constitution matters, and I think

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that the institutions do matter, and I do think that

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we're blowing all this up for no reason. And that

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just became out of like I did not. I'm still

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a Republican. I've not left the Republican Party, but the

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Republican Party doesn't want anything to do with me. I mean,

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I'm told all the time I get more hate from

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Republicans than I do from Democrats.

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Because they.

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Just see the disloyalty and say, well, that's it, that's

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what being a conservative means now, And I just go,

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I don't think that's true, and I don't think that

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should be how we think of politics at all. I

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do not like cult of personality stuff and that's what

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politics has completely become. And then, like I said, this

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is not solely a Trump issue. I had massive problems

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with the Democrats idolized and made Obama a sort of

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messiah figure within their party, and the country kind of

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went crazy for some of that stuff. That just was

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he got a Nobel Peace Prize without doing anything. There

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was some weird messianic stuff going on with Obama too.

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This is not a just a Trump problem. It's just

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that I am more comfortable saying I'm going to call

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up my side because I think there's plenty of stuff

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going on the reason I started the podcast. Plenty of

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stuff where I is calling out the left. And if

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you turned on well I did this one time. I

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loved late night television as kids stuff. I love Letterman,

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I love Craig First and several of them, but I

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hadn't watched it a long time. It's just not that

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interesting to me. And as much as I like politics,

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I don't want my entertainment at night to be all

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about politics. And that's what all the shows had come about.

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But when Greg Gupfield took over, like he was winning

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the ratings in the late night War on Fox News

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and I never watched the show, and I was just like, oh,

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I'm kind of interested in seeing that's interesting, right, It's

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at least interesting that more people are watching that on

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cable than they're watching the CBS late show that's been

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there for thirty years. And all these kind of staples,

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and Wilbert's show and his on the same night, you

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would not have known that the same things that they

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would not You could not tell they were recorded the

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same day because this is during the Biden minister and

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you could tell, like Colbert's about Democrats Biden, even though

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some of it's so plainly easy to make the joke about,

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and you're supposed to be a comedy show. Same thing

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on the other thing, nothing bad about Trump, nothing bad

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about MAGA, nothing bad about Republicans. And I just was like,

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this is not good for America. This is not good

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for Americans. It's not good for an informed citizenry. And

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I feel better about being like, look, I am full

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on most of the issues. If we actually sat down

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and said, like, how do you feel about picket free

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markets or you know, free speech or you know, pick

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your thing, gun rights, whatever the thing is, we probably

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agree on those things, except that most Republicans have abandoned

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those things. They're loyal to Donald Trump, and especially the

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leaders in the Republican Party have done that.

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Because they have to.

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They're bullied, they're threatened, and I just it really bothers

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me when people pretend to believe something that they don't.

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I think there's nothing worse than that, and in politics,

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it's just not necessary. And so I wanted to start

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this thing be like, hey, I think there's a lot

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of people that I agree. I think there's a lot

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of people that feel the same way as I do.

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Probably they feel like neither party really defines them. Well, well,

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because those parties have demanded and the Democrats do this too,

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where they've demanded you have to be with us on

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book boop and then there's a big long list of

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things that you have to agree with them on. And

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so there are no pro life Democrats anymore, there are

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no pro choice Republicans anymore, there are no Secondmendment Democrats. Guys,

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Republican you know, it's like, you pick those big issues

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that we've been fighting about for a long time, but

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it's gotten even more am minuition than that. Every single

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thing that happens every day becomes are you pro this

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or against it? It's my least favorite question, are you

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pro Israeli into it? I'm like, you can't boil down

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a giant geog like geopolitical situation into are you for

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it or you against it? Because it's turning versus them,

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It's turning everything into they are evil, they are the

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bad guys, And I'm just like, that is not the

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way to do politics. I can call out bad ideas.

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I think we're supposed to keep politicisians in check no

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matter which party they're from, Like, we are the people

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to hire and fire them. This is not Oh, they're

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on my team and therefore I defend their actions and

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I attack the other guy. But that's what politics has

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become for almost everyone else. I do think most of

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those people in the middle checked oubt entirely, and they're

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not paying any attention because it's exhausting and because it

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is really gross. I mean, like most people don't want

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to pay to it because I can see why you

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would just be like, this is gross. Why would I

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want to lie? So I'm trying to do something that

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is reasonable and brings facts that told us the other

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thing that's missing in today's confidence is like, if we

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can't agree on the basic facts first, then it's going

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to be really hard for us to move forward. And

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I just believe that we can have polack conversations with

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people where we disagree and still be friendly at the end.

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Gotcha. Okay, it's a.

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Long winded way to say where I got here. I'm

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just I'm this last couple of weeks specifically has been

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like really overwhelming for me as far as some of

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the gross behavior.

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Oh, I guess I'm gonna pause for a second because

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we're having a lot of dropouts with you coming in

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for some reason, I got a lot of audio, so

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I'm just past for a second that we're going to

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go right back. Okay, right, So, uh, before I had

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to tighten up a few things, you were talking about

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how gross everything has been lately, and I I still

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after everything you said, though, I still believe that you're

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you're representing more of how people feel now because with

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everything's happened. You're right, like, the Conservative Party is not

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so much the Conservative Party that we know. It's it's

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really become the you know, it's almost like you have

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to be a cheerleader for the team. Is the way

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I see it, and no matter what, you got to

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go for your team like it's it. And that's the

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same on both sides. By the way I see that,

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no matter what, you just got to back them, and

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we're trying to push them over the line to gain points.

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And it's just it's become so petty and more about

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who gets the win rather than who's really representing the

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people I believe, And that's what I've been seeing as

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far as events go, I mean, are are we are

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we pointing towards like for example, everybody knows the whole

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thing happened with Charlie Kirk horrible. As much as much

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as that was horrendous, what I'm in is my opinion,

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what I find horrendous is House becomes so politicized. You know,

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he was a podcaster that challenged narratives, whether he believed

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and what he said or agree with him regardless. He

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was just kind of doing what you and I do

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on our shows. We're just trying to get people to

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talk and think about things. And there was no there

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was no need for that, but you know, I saw

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kind of what was going on. I didn't watch it

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because I didn't want to I just felt by then

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I was kind of checked out with everything going on

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with his memorial, I mean, ten hours long. It was

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it was a service, it was a sermon, it was

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a Christian concert, and then there was a there was

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a little bit of remembrance, and then it looked like

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a WWE event. So I feel sorry for Erica by

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the way, because I don't. I don't. I think she

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really wanted to honor her husband, but it looked like

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it got turned into something a little bit more. Yeah,

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but it did bring people together, whether good or bad,

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whoever you want to look at it. I'm sure most

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Democrats look at it as bad. But what is your

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thoughts on how that is affecting us moving forward? Because

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we get to deal politics letter because that's kind of

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like my thing. I love. Oh, I've talked about that

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stuff for sure. You know.

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The what's interesting about Charlie Kirk is that, like I didn't.

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He's talking to college kids, so I'm not supposed to

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be probably watching Charlie Kirk all the time. It's just,

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you know, there are demographics here. It is it is

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a money thing. You know, there are people that you

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know then they know their audience, and to some degree

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that's okay. To some degree, it's good to know, Like

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my audience is you know, conservatives in Middle America or

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it's you know, like that's fine. Like now, I think

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too often in politics we've gotten into this audience capture

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kind of thing where Fox News can't say it like

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they're already dwindling viewership because the cable news is just

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getting older and older and older. And to a degree,

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like Stephen Colbert has the same problem, Jimmy Kimmel has

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the same problem. Like they're like the I think Colbert's

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average age was like sixty two the average, which means

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all those people are dying. And like your audience is

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just slowly disappearing, and so I get that, like you're

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desperate to keep it and stuff, and what you end

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up doing is compromising what you believe and you say

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things you don't believe to keep the audience around. I

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see this happening with the conspiracies that go on on

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the left and the right all the time. It's like

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once that's the audience that encourages you with the racism

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that goes on on both sides. Like it's like once you,

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once you sort of like get a taste of that,

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your audience is not willing to have anything else. And

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so to me, there's just so much of that that's

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been going on specifically over the last ten years, like

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really bad. You've got people that ten years ago, I'd

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say I agree with like a lot of stuff. I

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think they write great stuff. I think they say great stuff.

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Tucker Carlson is a smart guy. I know he is,

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and yet it's UNRECOGNI his Tucker Carlson today is unrecognizable

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from twenty years ago. Yes, yes, in principle, in ideals,

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in everything, and I only can look at that and go,

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that's for money, Like there's just I don't believe anything

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else other than this for money. Jade Vance has been

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four different people in the eight years we've known of him.

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like jd Vance? I'm like, which version of jd Vance?

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I don't know. We've had four different versions in eight years,

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and so I don't trust that when people are not consistent.

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And so going back to the like the Troy kirk

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thing is like, he's not someone that I loved, Like,

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I didn't like some of his style. I thought he

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had given up some of his principles that he believed

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in ten years ago to jump on the populis bandwagon

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that had become the Republican Party and to make more

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money and to have more influence. And you know what,

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this is not me trying to like say he did

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like he still did amazing things. He went out there

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and talked to people who disagreed with him, which most

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people are not willing to do. Frankly, like most people

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are scared to death of actually having a half scared

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a confrontation. They're scared of confrontation. They're scared that they

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don't The truth is most people are not well informed

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enough to really be spouting the things that they are

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on the internet, be it professionally or otherwise, and they

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know that if they actually had to talk to someone.

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And I run into this more with liberals than I

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do with conservatives, because the entire culture, for my entire life,

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I'm inundated with the culture of the left. It's in Hollywood,

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it's in TV, it's in movies, it's in every magazine

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it's in most of the media. It's like there's that

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bias that's there, and it's been there my whole life,

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and so I know how to deal with it. But

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I'll talk to a progressive that literally has never talked

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to another conservative in their life. They've never heard the argument,

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they've never considered it, and they don't even know the

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basic facts. Like I literally had a friend that once

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I thought you could just walk into Walmart and buy

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a gun. I was like, no, you have to pass

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a background check. He did not know you had to

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pass a background check, And I was like, well, I

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can see why you'd be upset about that, but it's

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your fault that you didn't know that, you know what

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information you do. We all have the Internet. It's made

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us all dumber somehow, even though we have access to

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all the information in the world. So when it came

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to the Charlie Kirk assassination, the first thing, I mean,

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I've been I've been sounding alarm bells for the entire

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time I've had this podcast and even before that with

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friends and stuff that this is escalating, like it's it's

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getting worse and worse and worse in the sense that

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you know, rattle off all the near assassinations that we

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had that were we called assassination attempts, and we had.

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It just came out this week that the guy that

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was outside Brett Kavanaugh's house had a plan to assassinate

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three of the justices. We obviously had like someone breaking

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the Nancy Pelosi's house and attack Paul Pelosi with a hammer.

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we have the Minnesota lawmakers that were targeted for assassination.

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of them, fortunately were unsuccessful. The Minnesota ones were successful

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asassination at tempts because their state lawmakers. I don't think

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they had the impact. And that was on a holiday

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weekend or something too, I think it was July fourth

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or something, so I think it kind of got.

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of like they recognized them, but unfortunately they didn't get

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the attention they deserved.

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It kind of got swept up in a news cycle,

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which is unfortunate, and it seemed more like and here's

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the other thing, is that for the most part, I mean,

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Joshapiro's house gets fire bombed on passover, like what is

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clearly an anti Semitic attack, and we just, like what

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seems like happened with everyone every time we missed, like

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dodged the bullet, you know, metaphorically and actually in Donald

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Trump's case, you know, I feel like it gave people

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an excuse to feel like it wasn't that big of

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a deal that it almost happened and so and then

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also it gave a permission that said, first of all,

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no one ever claimed any responsibility when it was their

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side that did it. And what I kept saying over

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and over again is like every time one of those

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things happened, I was like, this is an opportunity for that,

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you know, if if the violence came from the left,

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for the leaders on the left to say, you know what,

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we've probably contributed to this by me calling Donald Trump

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the worst threat to the you know, like calling him

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fascists or calling a hitler, or maybe Joe Biden should

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have looked in the mirror and said and come out

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and on public and said, you know what. In twenty twelve,

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I told a group of black people that Mitt Romney

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was going to put them back in chains if he

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got elected and that was wrong.

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He said a lot of things in his career, He.

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Said a lot of things right and like and Donald Trump, obviously,

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I thought maybe we could get a change of heart

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from him when he almost gets assassinated, to be like,

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maybe I've been contributing to some of this rhetoric true,

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and yet every single time it happened, we got zero

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remorse from the side that should claim some responsibility. And

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this is not me trying to say that the left

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is responsible for when a single crazy person and tries

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to kill someone on the right. However, those people are

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absolutely influenced by the rhetoric that happens all the time.

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And when you tell people over and over again that

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they have no agency at all to control anything. So

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elections don't matter because they're stolen. We don't even admit

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we lose anymore. We just say the other side stole

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the election. So we're adding distrust to the election the

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electoral system, and Democrats and Republicans have both done that.

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It goes all the way back to George W. Bush

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where Democrats doing it. And then Hillary Clinton calls Donald

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Trump an illegitimate president in twenty sixteen, she kind of

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does some of that stuff. Donald Trump takes it to

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another level in twenty twenty for sure, And so, okay,

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elections can't be trusted. Your politicians can't be trusted Republicans,

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you know, if you're a Democrats, like, well, the Supreme

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Court is like corrupt. They're in the tank for Donald Trump. Well,

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so you tell people every single way of your civic duty,

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you can't do anything about it because it's all controlled,

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or like, let's really go to the real the thing

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that's happening on the right and the left now everything

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is the Jews, Like everything is blamed on like the

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Jews are in nefarious control of everything now, and so

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what do you think is going to happen? Some people

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are going to go the only option I have is

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to use violence to stop that from happening. And most

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of the time they're disturbed. Like the Paul Pelosi attack,

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that guy's disturbed. The Congressional baseball shooting is a little

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bit of that. The Gabby Gifford one is definitely like

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that guy is insane. He thought Grammar was controlling his

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mind or something. These are people that are susceptible to

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the violent kind of stuff, and I have some real

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I have some theories about most of the problems with

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the kind of violence like that. But then Charlie Kirk

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comes along and it's like that guy was not crazy.

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I'm not seeing any indication that he was not in

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his right mind. He absolutely was influenced by the left

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ideology then, and yet the left still can't own it.

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They're trying to pretend this guy's maga or something. And

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I just go, there's not been a more clear cut

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case of someone like we've got the text messages he said,

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I'm doing this because some some hate you just.

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Can't negotiate with.

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And and then you look at poles on like what

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are our feelings on free speech? And most people think

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that the First Amendment goes too far in protecting free

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speech and and and like, yeah, you're gonna get violence.

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And what I hoped was maybe this will finally wake

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people up, because I don't I'm expecting the word attempt

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after assassination, and yet this time it was just assassination.

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Like he's dead.

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We hope, okay, we hope to wake people up, and

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we and we also hoped it would unite people, but

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it literally didn't. It just drove the divide, you know,

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even wider. The wedge was much much greater now. So

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I was I was hoping that regardless of party, people

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could look at this and say, holy shit, like what

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just happened. That's not what happened. Everybody got more fanatical.

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And look what you just spoke about. It is what

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I've been talking about for quite some time as well.

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I don't think this is a mistake. You know, these messages,

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this rhetoric is very intentional. It's absolutely psychological conditioning, period,

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no matter how you want to slice it. Yeah, and

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it is a very book out of the communist playbook.

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Literally like literally is as the Germans would say in

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the Nazis, you know, when the Nazis were in power.

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You know, say a lie enough and it becomes the truth.

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And both sides, by the way, like are doing this.

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It's not just the Democrat Party. It was primarily before

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started with Obama, the Democrat Party, but it's it's no

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longer that. It's not both sides just poking the bear

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on either side. And we got to also understand that

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the average person is very their minds are malleable, they're susceptible.

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And it's not not because I'm saying they're stupid. It's

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just they're bombarded with all this information. You got social media,

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got legacy media, got radio, you got freaking podcasters, you

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got influencers all toning the line to make a dollar.

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Kind of going back to what you said earlier, how

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like you said about Charlie Kirk. Not not, and I'm

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not bashing him either, but you know, some of these

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people eventually they go, hey, you know I can make

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more money, pay earn some dollars from my family, et cetera,

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and they start to go with what works right, they

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just keep going down that road, and we see that.

480
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.640
So the responsibility falls on i think, not just the

481
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.119
left or the right, but everybody to recognize this, like

482
00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.680
we need to disconnect, step back and actually see what

483
00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.559
the hell's going on before we engage and step back in.

484
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.759
And the other thing with all of this, where I'm

485
00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:31.640
going to go with this is also how right away

486
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:35.200
everybody wants to not, like you said, not accept responsibility.

487
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:37.240
For example, the person who killed Charlie Kirk, Yeah, he

488
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.599
wasn't a psychotic person by definition necessarily, but he did

489
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.400
get radicalized and The problem we have is we are

490
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.000
seeing this in our education system, also in higher education.

491
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:51.960
I mean when you have literal videos of you know, instructors,

492
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.039
people with PhDs. We're talking, We're talking about professor sitting

493
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.400
down literally telling their students we need to take down America.

494
00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:00.880
Communism is bad. We could argue that could be, but whatever,

495
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.319
I'm a comment not communists. I'm in capitalism. Sorry, I

496
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.799
don't know, I've end up a while, but you know,

497
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.599
capitalism bad, take down America. And yet they're benefiting off

498
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.519
the systems that are lining their pockets. Right, some of

499
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.039
these professor's making you know, one hundred and fifty to

500
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.880
two hundred thousand dollars a year. Insane. I don't I'm

501
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.200
not sure where they're coming from. So we can't ignore

502
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:27.279
that either. There's correlation now, and people want to ignore it.

503
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.799
They want to ignore it and they want to just keep,

504
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.359
like you said, blaming the right the left. This is extreme,

505
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:35.599
but you're right. Trump did not help what this is.

506
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:37.640
I'm gonna be honest. I like Trump when he first

507
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.359
came into the scene because at first he was literally

508
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.799
saying what people were thinking, but he doubled down, tripled

509
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:46.359
down while troupled. He just kept going and he doesn't

510
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.680
know when to pull back. And now it's at the point.

511
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.720
I don't know. I think he likes hearing his own voice,51200:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.559



and uh, you know, we just had he just addressed51300:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.119



the UN today and it was like he was given51400:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.240



a magas speech, you know, something that he would give51500:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.799



to his his on base, telling the world leaders how51600:25:01.839 --> 00:25:03.519



great he is and how many wars he stopped. Everything51700:25:03.519 --> 00:25:08.880



he's doing. Yep. But here we are with France and51800:25:08.920 --> 00:25:13.559



we've got the UK and almost most Europeans nations are51900:25:13.599 --> 00:25:15.680



out in right now trying to recognize the state of52000:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.920



Palestine and UK went so far as from what I52100:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.599



read earlier, it might be wrong though that they're even52200:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.359



trying to change the address for the Embassy of Israel52300:25:24.920 --> 00:25:29.119



to just say po box whatever number of Palestine.52400:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.119



As if they can get in there. Yeah, exactly, So52500:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.519



they're not allowed in there. I mean, I'm also won't52600:25:34.599 --> 00:25:35.160



let them in there.52700:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.119



It's crazy. I don't know how we're gonna write this,52800:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.200



I really don't. So again, I think the responsibility is52900:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.359



going to fall on people like us. Maybe to be honest,53000:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.319



we're going to you know, people like you telling the53100:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.200



truth people like us in the research and trying to53200:25:48.200 --> 00:25:49.519



get the word out. And I'm not always right. I53300:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.519



mean no, I.53400:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.359



Mean either, Like I think the thing that I really53500:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.119



always wanted to do is like I'm never gonna lie,53600:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.839



and I'm not going to I'm not gonna say something53700:25:59.799 --> 00:26:05.000



I don't believe, especially because I just feel like there's53800:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.839



plenty of that going around, right, And you're absolutely right53900:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.319



up with a lie thing. I mean, yeah, I was.54000:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.519



There is a the violence thing. I think the left54100:26:14.519 --> 00:26:16.759



has a bigger problem with embracing violence. They're the ones54200:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.359



that have said, like speech is violence and violence is speech,54300:26:20.640 --> 00:26:26.200



Like that's not that's so wildly incoherent and anti American,54400:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.880



Like it's actually anti American because like you either like54500:26:28.960 --> 00:26:30.720



the First Amendment is either the greatest like I think54600:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.359



it's the greatest thing ever. I think it's the reason54700:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.359



this country works. I think that you.54800:26:34.359 --> 00:26:35.000



Have to have it.54900:26:35.559 --> 00:26:39.880



And the left has been more anti that traditionally than55000:26:39.920 --> 00:26:43.240



the right. They have, yes, and especially when it comes55100:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.920



to labeling things hate speech and stuff. You know, but55200:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.240



then Charlie Kirk gets assassinated and the Attorney General is55300:26:50.240 --> 00:26:53.279



out there saying there's free speech, and then there's hate speech,55400:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.640



and it's like, no, you are supposed to be the55500:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.839



top lawyer in the country and you should know that55600:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.920



it's not true. And Charlie Kirk himself would have argued55700:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.279



with you about that. He said, absolutely not. There's no55800:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.759



such thing as hate speech in this country and the55900:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.759



Supreme Court.56000:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.200



So do not do you think that not there is56100:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.799



never a case for something is literally classified as hate speech.56200:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.920



I just do not think that there should. I mean56300:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.039



there is not and there should not ever be a56400:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.359



legal definition of hate speech because at that point you56500:27:26.400 --> 00:27:33.279



are not you are saying certain ideas are illegal. And56600:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.440



the Supreme Court. Look, the most famous Supreme Court First56700:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.519



Amendment cases are dealing with Nazis in the Ku Klux Klan,56800:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.759



which I think everyone would agree almost everyone would agree56900:27:43.200 --> 00:27:46.480



are bad people and they're evil, and like we would57000:27:46.519 --> 00:27:52.000



all say, they're reprehensible, they're terrible, ugly, gross, just everything.57100:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.640



We hate about, like the bad side of speech.57200:27:56.359 --> 00:27:58.839



And yet the Supreme Court said, yeah, but like, why57300:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.920



would we let the government decide which speech is bad57400:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.839



or not? Because once you open that door, what it57500:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.799



turns into is eventually again, let's think about the things57600:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.160



that if Donald Trump could snap his fingers, which he's57700:28:12.160 --> 00:28:13.640



tried to do this, by the way, he's still trying57800:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.880



to do this right now, and could say certain speech57900:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.799



is hateful. You know, what do you think right now58000:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.200



he's trying to do it. He's saying, if you talk58100:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.480



bad about me. He said this to ABC the other day.58200:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.960



He said they were asking him something about you know,58300:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.960



I can't remember the Jimmy Kimmel thing or whatever, and58400:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.559



he was like, well, what about you guys. You guys58500:28:30.039 --> 00:28:31.839



do a lot of hate speech towards me, and you58600:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.519



say a lot of hateful things about me. Maybe we58700:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.319



should take away your broadcast license. So, for Donald Trump,58800:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.240



what hate speech means is someone said something mean about him.58900:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.079



By the way, sometimes it's true. It's like yeah, and59000:28:42.200 --> 00:28:44.559



so that if you let the government decide what is59100:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.720



hateful and what is not. Donald Trump right now would say,59200:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.839



if you say something bad about him, that's hate speech.59300:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.039



And if we say the government gets classify which is59400:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.440



hateful and what's not, Donald Trump gets to decide what59500:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.039



hate speech is. Right, if it's Democrats that were you,59600:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.039



they might say, if you say I believe in there's59700:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.160



only two genders you that might be hate speech, and59800:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.799



we can throw you and for saying that it is.59900:29:09.079 --> 00:29:14.680



But so let's just pick up yeah again, and look,60000:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.759



you know, I was gonna add something. I was gonna say, everybody,60100:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.720



we're having technical difficulties and it's what it is. And60200:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.279



with spies together, Blake said a lot of great stuff,60300:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.160



but where you left off was when you were talking60400:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.519



about where the government will be able to decide what60500:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.839



is free speech? And yeah, you know, that's where we60600:29:30.920 --> 00:29:35.759



left off. And you're you're absolutely right, You're you're also saying,60700:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.000



how you know the way Trump is acting like you60800:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.839



can't He's he's basically saying whatever is not is hate60900:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.680



speech is really just whatever's criticizing him, to be honest,61000:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.640



like you can't criticize someone without them now saying oh61100:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.640



that's hateful. I can't have that. Now. What's interesting is61200:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.839



I was gonna put this, I was gonna try to61300:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.200



interject with this, but I'm gonna say the date today,61400:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.720



which is September twenty third, twenty twenty five, because today61500:29:59.759 --> 00:30:04.720



Google just admitted that the Biden administration was having them61600:30:05.079 --> 00:30:10.079



literally cancel accounts and monitor people's content.61700:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.960



And they were doing it based on misinformation, which is61800:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.920



just another way to say, we get to decide what61900:30:14.960 --> 00:30:16.359



truth is and what it isn't.62000:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.440



Also, Blake, what's interesting since you were just talking about62100:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.160



all of this is California is getting closer. I think.62200:30:22.440 --> 00:30:23.680



Let me look, I was trying to look this up62300:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.119



earlier when you were talking SB seven seven to one,62400:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.680



I believe. Let me confirm that, and I haven't heard62500:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.960



about that a SB seven seven one. So this is62600:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.079



an interesting one. This is going down the road probably62700:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.839



very similar to what's happening in the UK. Now. Now,62800:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.599



part of what they're saying in here, just kind of paraphrasing,62900:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.640



is that California, if you do anything. Now, what they're63000:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.279



gonna do is whole social media platform is responsible, not63100:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.880



going after the individual, but basically if anything that's out63200:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.720



there that is considered to be hateful speech, and of63300:30:54.759 --> 00:30:59.759



course anything that is directed towards what is mostly marginalized63400:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.160



communities is what they're saying, and then they go further63500:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.079



to define it as you know, each against LGBTQ communities63600:31:08.720 --> 00:31:13.359



of course minorities, and then there's other language. You should63700:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.519



look that up. I guarantee, I guarantee it'll be a63800:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.559



great episode for you to have. But on the surface,63900:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.680



and this is the problem with the government. You know,64000:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.240



you give them a little, they never give it back, right,64100:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.960



So on the surface, you're like, wow, this makes a64200:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.960



lot of sense, like people shouldn't be saying those things64300:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.359



about these people, but you also can see where they64400:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.920



manipulate this and they can control everything that you say.64500:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.519



And then also you're being thrown to jail, just like64600:31:35.559 --> 00:31:38.000



they're doing in the UK right now, people are being64700:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.000



arrested for tweets. Yeah. Crazy, and I'm afraid we might64800:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.200



be going down that road.64900:31:43.440 --> 00:31:49.319



I think we are. I think it's weird because again65000:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.359



I don't want to do any Oh.65100:31:51.279 --> 00:31:57.599



No, listen, We're good right now. Apologize. I was just65200:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.200



I was just listening to and I was like agree.65300:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.960



It's like, yeah, you know, but look like I'm gonna65400:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.119



tell you right now on this show, you can say65500:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.720



whatever you whatever is on your mind. There's there's You're65600:32:05.759 --> 00:32:06.960



not gonna fend any of my audience.65700:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.319



I don't I don't hold back. I think that go65800:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.279



for it. I think that the problem with all those65900:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.599



built First of all, I want to say that I66000:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.599



think everyone has the best of intentions. I think that's66100:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.440



the other thing that's really wrong with the politics right66200:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.440



now is that we assume the other side has ill intent. Now,66300:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.279



sometimes I think that's the case. I think I think66400:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.720



Donald Trump cares about his self. I think he cares66500:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.240



about his own wealth, his hi, his reputation. I don't66600:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.200



really think he cares about anyone else. And I did66700:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.680



not watch the memorial service for Troy Kirk because I66800:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.359



thought I just knew it would make my blood boil.66900:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.799



And but I know from what I read the next67000:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.000



day is like he made it about himself. It wasn't67100:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.119



about trus Kirk. It was a campaign rally for him.67200:32:43.160 --> 00:32:44.960



And he even to say the stuff that he said67300:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.759



were like you can tell. He went on prompter and67400:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.920



he said like, you know, you don't hate your enemies,67500:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.799



and he was like, actually, that's where I disagree with Charlie.67600:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.640



I I hate I hate my opponents, I hate my enemies.67700:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.880



And you're like, man, do you realize how I mean,67800:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.119



let's get in to a different layer of it. Just67900:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.680



forget about the politics. Forget about the fact that this68000:33:03.759 --> 00:33:08.920



guy's like you're you're talking to the widow of someone68100:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.519



who got assassinated, and the videos that I mean, it's68200:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.119



just awful. It's absolutely terrible thing about what she and68300:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.240



her kids are gonna have to deal with for forever,68400:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.519



for that being what happened to their dad. And it's68500:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.039



so terrible. And he did this at the White House too.68600:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.160



After the assassination, he started talking about like the remodel68700:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.839



at the White House and stuff. It's just like he68800:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.559



he does not have an He does not care about68900:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.480



anyone else. And you can like Donald Trump, you can69000:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.559



support his policies, you can say he's a better choice69100:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.880



than Kamala Harris. I cannot deal with people that defend69200:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.279



him on that. I'm like, well, no, but you don't know.69300:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.759



And I'm like, no, I know. A guy got assassinated69400:33:46.799 --> 00:33:48.519



he claims to be really close to and he's talking69500:33:48.559 --> 00:33:52.319



about how they're redecorating the White House. Right, he doesn't69600:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.079



really care about Charlie Kirk.69700:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.039



I think there's two things there. I think one, you're69800:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.440



right or could be right. Two he also made me69900:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.720



an individual that just cannot handle loss or or handle70000:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.079



uh you know those anything that is overwhelming to the70100:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.760



degree where it does require you to be emotionally invested.70200:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.440



I think he wants to avoid it. I'm want to70300:34:14.440 --> 00:34:15.880



make an excuse for him, but he seems like that70400:34:16.000 --> 00:34:17.760



kind of person where he just doesn't want to he70500:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.639



doesn't want to address it. He tries to deflect basically,70600:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.039



oh for sure, which.70700:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.920



Is but I don't even think it's yeah, it is,70800:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.880



and I just think it's not. It's not Sincere, I70900:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.840



think it's it's not. Again, you go back to his assassination.71000:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.920



If he sticks to the speech that's the first thirty71100:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.960



minutes of like, that's a that's one of the better71200:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.320



that's going to be a speech that everyone remembers forever,71300:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.079



Like it's literally going to be like one of the71400:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.079



things that can be in the history books. Because he71500:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.639



nearly gets assassinated, he comes out there. If he if71600:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.840



he did that and stuck the prompter, it would have71700:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.880



been great. And stead he went for an hour longer71800:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.639



than that and just started turning into it the greatest71900:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.199



hits of the campaigns. This is why I like, I'm not72000:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.199



going all the way down this road. But there are72100:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.039



there are things that Republicans need to be concerned about72200:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.840



with his age and cognitive ability that I think he72300:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.079



is not the same Trump he was four years ago72400:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.280



or eight years ago, Like he is getting older, and72500:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.119



his mind is not working the same way it did72600:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.159



eight years ago. And I don't want to be in72700:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.840



the party that does the same thing that they did72800:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.199



with Joe Biden, where they just pretend it's not happening.72900:35:18.440 --> 00:35:18.679



True.73000:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.280



I think that we got to be really honest about that.73100:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.400



So I'm not I'm not saying let's blame that on everything.73200:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.000



He's got dementia. I'm not like the Democrats again started73300:35:25.039 --> 00:35:26.719



the whole thing. He's dead a couple of weeknds ago.73400:35:26.760 --> 00:35:28.840



It's ridiculous and.73500:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.760



Well as it is ridiculous and funny, but you know,73600:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.280



not maybe not far off. I mean, he's not the73700:35:33.280 --> 00:35:37.480



same person who knows that. Look, he's this is I73800:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.360



want you to know. I'm kind of really on the73900:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.400



same pages with Trump. So what I'm gonna say is this,74000:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.239



he knows this his last term, so he hasn't I'm74100:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.159



just gonna say he doesn't give a fuck. Oh no, yeah,74200:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.000



that's he knows. He knows it's that's it. He's gonna74300:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.400



do whatever we can push the envelope. Yep. And I74400:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.320



think with him doing this that the stress and the74500:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.679



weight of everything coming down. I don't believe that, you know, hereingews.74600:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.119



He get push back. He knews good blowback, but the74700:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.679



fact that not everybody is buying in hook line syncer74800:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.440



like they used to, I think is an issue for him.74900:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.760



It is definitely a big roadblock. You know. The Charlie75000:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.360



Kirk thing made it look like large a large part75100:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.280



of the population believes in Trump himself, but a lot75200:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.519



of them were just they're really to memorialize Charlie And75300:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.599



then it got turned into a damn Trump rally.75400:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.039



Right because he has to that that is the only way.75500:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.679



Everything for him is currency. It's either is it actually75600:36:29.679 --> 00:36:33.239



making me actual money transactional or is it make me75700:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.280



look better? Every that is everything with him, and there75800:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.440



is no There is no sacrificial thing with him. Everything75900:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.039



is selfish. Everything has how does this benefit me? And76000:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.239



I think it's foolish that any Republican thinks that they're76100:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.039



in his good graces. He will throw any one of76200:36:49.079 --> 00:36:50.559



them under the bus. And he has done this over76300:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.639



and over again. That's why people are like, when people76400:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.400



are like jd Vance is going to be the next president,76500:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.719



I'm like, there's not a chance jad Vance gets out76600:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.159



of this four years without getting stabbed in the back76700:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.880



by Donald Trump. It's just not going to happen because76800:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.440



he does it with absolutely everyone and he's not going76900:37:05.480 --> 00:37:09.320



to change at eighty like eighty, No, he's only getting77000:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.000



more into the thing. And so I'm like, that's just77100:37:11.039 --> 00:37:12.280



a realistic I'm not.77200:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.719



So who does already look to though, because a lot77300:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.760



of people think jd. Vance should be great to carry77400:37:17.800 --> 00:37:19.719



it on. Yeah, but you're right, I don't think he77500:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.920



comes out of this unscathe. Yeah, he's going to eventually77600:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.800



be taking He's going to be the scapegoat, I think77700:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.320



on a lot of things eventually, just like he's been77800:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.320



throwing his own administration under the bus and then goes77900:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.800



back and says, oh, they're wonderful people.78000:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.599



Yeah, there's a couple of reasons I don't think Jady78100:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.239



Vance can be it. Mostly historically, we're always wrong about78200:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.920



this two or three years out. We've talked about Scott Walker,78300:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.719



we talked about Rick Perry, we talked about Hillary Clinton78400:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.719



multiple times. We've talked about all sorts of people that78500:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.559



don't even sniff the nomination. And that's even when we're78600:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.960



like two years out. So there's that vice presidents don't78700:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.159



have a great track record. It's like they're four four78800:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.480



of twelve or something that run the resident. It's pretty low,78900:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.760



not very many, especially if they didn't inherit it vi79000:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.079



an assassination or something. And even those people tend to79100:38:05.079 --> 00:38:09.440



lose reelection, and so you know, it's not like just79200:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.000



just those facts would be enough to go. I don't79300:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.800



think that it's a given that he's the guy, But79400:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.440



then you compound it with like he's gonna have to79500:38:17.440 --> 00:38:18.840



figure out how to run for First of all, I79600:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.440



don't think Trump's economic policies are gonna work. I think79700:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.599



that the only saving grace for Trump is that the79800:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.960



Supreme Court says he can't implement tariff's the way he79900:38:26.000 --> 00:38:29.760



wants to, and he can't do it anymore. I think80000:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.639



that's the only because Congress isn't going to stop him,80100:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.079



even when Congress could thwart him for his own good.80200:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.800



Like the Matt Gates nomination for Attorney General was a80300:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.519



thing where I'm glad, like I can't mind he's my80400:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.199



senator as one of them who's the most one of80500:38:43.239 --> 00:38:44.800



the most maggot people ever and he was just like80600:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.679



I serve with that guy in the house and he80700:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.440



is the worst human. I mean, it's Basically, he's the80800:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.239



worst human being. I will not vote yes for him.80900:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.920



And you know what, I'm not saying Pam Bonnie's a81000:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.760



lot better, but she's you know, I have a lot81100:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.039



of problems with Pam Bonnie more and character and all81200:39:01.079 --> 00:39:02.920



sorts of reasons she's better than Matt Gates. Now, I81300:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.920



think Donald Trump all he really wants is a sick81400:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.840



of fans and a yes man that says, you know,81500:39:07.119 --> 00:39:08.519



he says, here's what I want to do. I want81600:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.719



you to go after my enemies, and they say yes, sir, right,81700:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.599



And so he's gonna get that either way with either one.81800:39:12.480 --> 00:39:12.960



Of those people.81900:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.519



But I think, you know, Republicans helped Donald Trump save82000:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.440



him from himself by not giving him Matt Gates. But82100:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.079



they're not doing that with tariffs, and I terriffs. I82200:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.800



don't think tariff's when used this way work. I think82300:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.960



that you look back to the last election, everyone was82400:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.599



mad about inflation happening. Tariffs are going to make the82500:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.320



prices of things go higher, and you can't argue with82600:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.800



you can't convince people, Fox News, no amount of MAGA82700:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.239



like brainwashing can convince people that stuff is not more82800:39:42.280 --> 00:39:43.159



expensive than it.82900:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.199



Was oh it is. It is absolutely anymore.83000:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.960



And I don't think it's actually happened more even so83100:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.360



much because we got these like ninety we got these83200:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.840



like pauses on Liberation Day and stuff, and we're only83300:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.159



just now seeing those tariffs really kick in. So you're83400:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.199



not gonna really but like around Christmas time, we are83500:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.119



going to see your and to see suply problems. You83600:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.400



will see prices if nothing changes, and I think that83700:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.599



that will be of albatross around JD. Vance's neck and83800:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.199



he's going to have to try to figure out how83900:40:10.199 --> 00:40:12.760



do I thread the needle where I say what Donald84000:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.159



Trump did didn't work while he's still president and can84100:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.079



get on television and bad mouth be for saying that84200:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.199



because presidents in the past like George W. Bush was84300:40:22.199 --> 00:40:26.320



not very popular when he left office and Republicans were like,84400:40:26.360 --> 00:40:28.800



it actually does not help me to have you come84500:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.320



campaign with me. You know what George W. Bush is like,84600:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.320



I get it, like no problem, Like I'm not upset84700:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.599



about it, I'm not hurt. Donald Trump cannot do that84800:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.360



like he, like JD. Vance, will not be able to say, hey,84900:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.039



I need you to like dial it back a little85000:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.760



bit because Donald Trump didn't care about the Republican Party.85100:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.519



He does not actually care what happened. He wants to85200:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.800



the star. In fact, I think Donald Trump will not85300:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.280



relinquish control of the Republican Party. I think that what85400:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.440



will happen is Donald Trump will crown someone that's and85500:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.960



so if it is jd Vance, if it's that's who85600:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.800



he decides to put his weight by, it will be85700:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.440



Jade Vance. But it might be Eric Trump, it might85800:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.440



be Melania.85900:41:05.639 --> 00:41:10.360



Yeah, but your statement about him crowning someone is probably86000:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.480



the truth, but no different than what happened with Obama. True,86100:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.599



Ohama's been the king of the Democrat Party for years,86200:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.960



and that that's the problem they're having right now. They86300:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.760



don't know who's going to replace Obama.86400:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.719



Yeah, I will say the difference there is that Obama86500:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.159



I don't think wants to be anymore.86600:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.960



It's just I'm agreeing. I was just gonna say that, Yeah,86700:41:30.159 --> 00:41:31.559



no one has person.86800:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.360



Yeah, because he wanted to, Like when the Joe Biden86900:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.760



thing happened last summer, he wanted I mean, I think87000:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.440



he wanted there to be a primary and stuff, but87100:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.079



he was trying to pull those strings behind the scenes.87200:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.840



So he wasn't the guy saying what needed to happen.87300:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.599



And I think that's admirable. But he is and because,87400:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.880



like you, the Republicans are in trouble for sure. If87500:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.719



if Donald Trump died tomorrow, it would be a mess,87600:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.840



because I think all these factions that are coalescing around87700:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.119



Donald Trump, if they no longer have that threat from87800:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.800



Donald Trump, You're going to see the nationalists. You're going87900:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.840



to see the racist You're going to see the true conservatives,88000:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.920



see the Reaganites. There's gonna be some inviting. The Democrats.88100:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.599



I don't know what their answer is right now.88200:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.280



I mean, I think that party's lost at the moment.88300:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.239



They have an opportunity to get their shit together, to88400:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.719



be quite honest, and really show people what they can be,88500:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.960



because I think the old Democrat Party, when you know,88600:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.880



back in the nineties, et cetera, I thought that was88700:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.840



a whole different party. To me. Back then, they represent88800:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.280



the people a lot more, actually were the part of88900:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.960



the people. But they got away from that once they89000:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.079



got a taste of power, in my opinion, and then89100:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.519



it became the party of the stars and the elite,89200:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.039



and they totally forgot where they came from. And yeah,89300:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.199



but it's psychical, right, it happens. You know, the Conservative89400:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.360



Party was that and then now look at them. Now89500:42:49.400 --> 00:42:51.760



they're getting used to what they have and now they're89600:42:51.800 --> 00:42:56.039



being freaking over the top and elaborate and now themselves89700:42:56.079 --> 00:43:01.159



becoming elitists. It's the problem we have is gosh, damn,89800:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.039



I just wish our elected officials. And it starts in Congress,89900:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.880



in the House, in the Senate actually just represent the90000:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.440



damn people. And and just you know, part I think90100:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.440



party politics has to go out the window. It's never90200:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.360



going to happen. I know, I have a different view90300:43:18.400 --> 00:43:18.679



on that.90400:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.199



So what I think the problem is, I think you're90500:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.519



right to a degree in the sense that like you're right,90600:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.639



but I mean, look Donald Trump's campaign, that Republican convention90700:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.239



was essentially Bill Clinton's convention in nineteen ninety two or90800:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.119



ninety six. Yeah, like they're not that different on like,90900:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.440



pick any issue. Donald Trump has abandoned the pro life cause,91000:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.960



he's abandoned fiscal responsibility.91100:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.239



He's never claimed to be a Republican anyway.91200:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.079



He's never claimed to be conservative. He says it out loud,91300:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.320



so so he's already kind of a Clinton Democrat anyway.91400:43:48.960 --> 00:43:50.519



That's that's who he really is.91500:43:51.039 --> 00:43:51.199



Now.91600:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.559



I think that there's another Bill Clinton was a much91700:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.079



smarter politician, like in the sense that he just like91800:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.599



he saw where but for the most part, Bill Clinton91900:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.159



saw where the country was going and then and then said, yeah,92000:44:03.239 --> 00:44:08.239



let's go there. He picked seventy thirty issues and went92100:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.159



with the seventy percent. I think what happened, And I like,92200:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.239



I pay a lot of attention to this because I92300:44:14.239 --> 00:44:15.679



am like, how do you solve the problem? I think92400:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.440



you've got to figure out what caused the problem to92500:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.119



really be able to solve it. So, like, where do92600:44:19.159 --> 00:44:24.079



we think this stemmed from? And I think I am92700:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.880



definitely on board with I think this starts with First92800:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.760



of all, it starts with you know, wood Rowlilson and FDR,92900:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.639



with the executive branch trying to control everything, trying to93000:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.039



throw like basically I'm the superiity branch.93100:44:38.440 --> 00:44:39.360



What I say goes.93200:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.840



I think that's where it kind of starts, the sort93300:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.920



of imperial presidency, and then I think it just keeps93400:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.639



ramping up for the next eighty years and or one93500:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.239



hundred years in the case of going back to wood93600:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.920



Row Wilson. Then I think the problem is primaries. I93700:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.519



think that when the parties gave up the ability to93800:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.320



pick who they're going to run, inevitably, where that's going93900:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.159



to lead is you're going to get fringier and further94000:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.519



to the extremes of your party, and you've opened up94100:45:06.599 --> 00:45:12.559



single issue groups to control the narrative instead of the party,94200:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.480



so the party no longer gets to decide what the94300:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.400



party represents. You're always gonna have changes. I mean, like94400:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.239



a a Probagan party and the Democratic Party are going94500:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.679



to change over time because the issues are going to change.94600:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.199



And like Democratic there's all sorts of things are gonna change,94700:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.559



and that's normal. But what's not normal is that they've94800:45:29.559 --> 00:45:34.239



totally flipped on things. And it's more so because they94900:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.119



look at the numbers and go, well, if we is95000:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.039



so a primary. It's just like people don't show up95100:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.880



in primaries. I don't totally quote me on the math95200:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.000



on this, but the twenty sixteen election, which is the95300:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.119



last time we actually had open primaries on both sides,95400:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.000



you didn't have an incumbent in either way. That was like,95500:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.679



if you do the math on how many people picked95600:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.000



Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, it's like four percent of95700:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.559



the population because you can't county the states after Trump95800:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.239



nails it. So it's like if you're you know, after95900:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.199



sometimes they wrap this up on Super Tuesday and so96000:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.440



half the state's primary votes don't count.96100:46:08.559 --> 00:46:10.119



It's just like totally worthless.96200:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.280



I don't believe in twenty sixteen for a second, if96300:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.239



the parties had like overwhelming control over this, they would96400:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.320



have let Bernie Sanders, who's not a Democrat, caucuses of96500:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.679



the Democrats and Donald Trump, who's not really a Republican.96600:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.800



Bernie was a more popular representative.96700:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.480



Right, be their leader, like, be the leaders of the party.96800:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.119



They would go no, no, no, like we have a litmus test.96900:46:31.119 --> 00:46:32.320



Like I think it would even be good for the97000:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.199



parties to say, for example, we're not going to let97100:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.719



anyone run for president that hasn't been a congressman or97200:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.280



a senator or governor or something like that, like you97300:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.039



just to gatekeep the sort of celebrity nonsense that I97400:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.639



think we're heading towards now. And so I actually want97500:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.119



to give the parties more power. I think that we97600:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.079



stripped that away with campaign finance reform. We basically said97700:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.760



you can't you can't do donations. But the Supreme Court97800:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.599



says and says in United says, well, you can't restrict97900:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.039



it's restricting speech if you say that people can't donate to.98000:47:02.519 --> 00:47:03.039



Like packs.98100:47:03.239 --> 00:47:03.679



Essentially.98200:47:04.199 --> 00:47:10.039



Okay, so I get what you're saying, but let's strip98300:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.440



it down even more to the root of the root98400:47:12.480 --> 00:47:14.840



of the issue. If we're talking about where we are98500:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.719



now in modern times, the root of the issue is98600:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.880



we got away from common sense and honestly family values.98700:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.320



I'm not being the ultra conservative guy you're saying. They98800:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.360



did get away from all that and we went down98900:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.559



this rabbit hole of love. Who you want to have love,99000:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.519



be the sex you think you are, a gender whatever.99100:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.760



And I'm not I'm not here hating on anybody, but99200:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.039



those things did lead to where we're at because most99300:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.199



people did not agree with it. And I'm not I'm99400:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.000



not advocating for someone can't live the way they want99500:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.719



to live. It's just nobody felt like that message needed99600:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.639



to be forced on the throats every single day they99700:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.639



woke up. You couldn't have an opinion, and you were99800:47:49.679 --> 00:47:51.800



chastised for it, and then you were canceled. Now I'm99900:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.559



not I'm not that tif for tad guy, because that100000:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.440



doesn't get us anywhere. But let's go back further. I100100:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.360



think the root of the problem is that serving in100200:47:59.400 --> 00:48:03.840



Congress was never supposed to be a career move true, period, true.100300:48:03.880 --> 00:48:06.960



And in the nineteen seventies is when you started seeing100400:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.519



a drastic increase in salaries. It was never like that.100500:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.400



It used to be like a stipend. It was like, okay,100600:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.119



here's a little stipend or bonus for you serving just100700:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.400



a you know, basic necessities whatever it was. And then100800:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.679



the seventies when you started seeing salaries going I think100900:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.960



it was somewhere between sixties and seventy thousand a year.101000:48:22.199 --> 00:48:23.800



And then here we are, now we're at one hundred101100:48:23.800 --> 00:48:25.840



and seventy five or one hundred and seventy seven thousand101200:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.360



a year. And then you find you take that and101300:48:28.400 --> 00:48:30.159



then also we got to look at well, if you're101400:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.239



only making this much money, why are you coming out101500:48:32.280 --> 00:48:33.960



the other end of multimillionaire as well?101600:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.000



No, that is, I mean, that is a gigantic problem.101700:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.760



But a serving two years for one year also and101800:48:40.800 --> 00:48:42.920



you get full medical for life and retirement on top101900:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.119



of that.102000:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.280



Now there's all sorts of bad incentem structures there. I102100:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.199



still think what it goes down to, though, is that102200:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.639



the real So the reason I think the left capitulated102300:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.280



to the far extreme progressive wing of their party that102400:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.960



does not even represent a majority of their party, much102500:48:58.119 --> 00:49:03.119



as the majority of the country right is because once once,102600:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.000



packs can get unlimited money, but parties and candidates can't.102700:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.880



Who do you have to go to for money?102800:49:08.360 --> 00:49:08.719



Packs?102900:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.920



What do packs care about? Single issues? Planned Parenthood only103000:49:12.920 --> 00:49:17.000



cares about abortion access and nothing else. In our only103100:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.239



cares about gun right, Second Amendment stuff and nothing else,103200:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.840



And picket go down the list. Most packs are single issue.103300:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.320



There are not a lot of family value packs. There103400:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.280



are not. I mean there are ones that like my103500:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.880



but they're all like it's like where the free speech pack?103600:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.320



Where the this pack? Where the you know, like And103700:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.559



that's where you have to get the money. And you103800:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.800



have to get people fired up enough to go to103900:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.920



a runoff in August for a primary so that no104000:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.159



one's interested in voting it. And so the only people104100:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.639



you can get to show up in those situations are104200:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.559



the crazy people. That is who votes in primary elections104300:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.480



is for the most part, it's very fringe like, way104400:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.280



more politically active. They're junkies like me. They're probably not104500:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.599



as informed though, because they're in echo chambers because they're104600:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.599



on the far wing of their party, and that's how104700:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.920



you get really bad candidates. And then what happens to104800:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.800



the rest of us is November comes around and we're like,104900:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.159



these two idiots are the choices we have. And it's105000:50:15.239 --> 00:50:20.599



because we let a system happen over decades that says, Okay,105100:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.400



four percent of your party is going to get a105200:50:22.400 --> 00:50:26.039



pick who runs in November, and I just think that's105300:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.280



People are like, well, it's undemocratic to not have primaries.105400:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.079



I'm like, no, no, no, there's nothing in the constitution that105500:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.760



says that parties have to They can pick their candidates105600:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.199



in smoke field rooms. They could do it via a105700:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.800



raffle if they want to. I don't really actually care,105800:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.079



but I would love the parties to actually have some105900:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.800



more ownership of the people they pick. And I think106000:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.840



it would work because I think part of the reason106100:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.239



the Democrats are in such a bad position right now106200:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.400



is because they're crowning of Kamala Harris. First of all,106300:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.280



they're cover up with the Joe Biden stuffy pissed off106400:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.599



a lot of people, not just Republicans like my Democratic.106500:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.480



I do not have a Democratic friend that that defends106600:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.360



what happened as far as what Joe Biden did and106700:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.800



the people around him and the Democratic Party, and they106800:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.000



like they were lied to. Now I think there's some106900:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.440



there's you have agency to find the same stuff I did.107000:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.079



It was not a shock when he went down in107100:51:16.119 --> 00:51:18.880



flames in that debate because for years I had been going,107200:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.280



this guy's not okay, like, and this isn't me saying107300:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.760



I mean, obviously I disagree with him on stuff, but like,107400:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.400



he's not okay. He cannot be the president. And I107500:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.079



thought his choice of Kamala Harris was so that's what107600:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.920



really that was a strike. I might have voted for107700:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.480



him in twenty twenty based on my dislike of Trump,107800:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.000



my distrust of Trump at that point, except that when107900:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.039



he pick Kamala Harris, I go, he is not taking108000:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.320



the fact that he's old very seriously because he picked108100:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.559



the least qualified VP candidate of all his options because108200:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.239



and he said it out loud, because she was a108300:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.360



black woman. Well, and I just go like, that's not108400:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.000



a good reason to pick someone. That's exactly it's not108500:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.000



a good reason to pick someone. And it's not fair108600:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.920



to her either, because it gives her no chance.108700:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.840



Actually effect to what we were talking about earlier about108800:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.199



how we got here. You know that the Democrat Party,108900:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.840



then they don't they're not seeing it that way now.109000:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.519



But then it was all about virtual virtue singing, and109100:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.960



they thought they had a pulse on what the people109200:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.280



believed in and wanted, and they were just so far109300:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.119



off the mark they couldn't see it. I see.109400:52:20.119 --> 00:52:21.559



I don't think that's what really happened. I think they109500:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.760



were pressured by the far extreme wings of their party.109600:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.920



You have to do right, I'm going to get there. Yeah, yeah,109700:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.679



and you're right as well. So but we let's go109800:52:32.719 --> 00:52:36.400



back to what we're talking about with narratives, rhetoric, psychological conditioning.109900:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.360



Right. Maybe they didn't believe this, maybe they were pressured110000:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.119



by their donors, as we're saying, but it was enough110100:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.159



messaging every day out there, whether they believed in it110200:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.960



or not, they were saying it, people were buying into it.110300:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.679



And then at that point you can't just you can't110400:52:51.719 --> 00:52:53.920



just put the brakes on, right, it is just going110500:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.079



to it's just not going to like I'm not stopping110600:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.960



within ten feet anymore, because now I need a distance110700:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.960



of a thousand feet to make work, and they were110800:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.079



just too close to the wall. So now the other110900:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.000



thing is I agree with you and you kind of111000:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.199



touched on it. But maybe what we need to do111100:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.280



is I think, listen, we need to get rid of lobbyists.111200:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.960



To be honest, I mean, it should be more public, right,111300:53:16.280 --> 00:53:18.119



I think they should have meetings where they can go111400:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.039



in front of all the representatives or whichever representative the room,111500:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.760



so that it's more public and everyone has a right111600:53:23.800 --> 00:53:25.239



to hear it at the same time, and they can111700:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.440



they can state their case, what they're there for, et cetera,111800:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.599



and then they can decide what they want to do111900:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.719



from there. I don't believe they should be able to112000:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.440



donate and going back to serving in Congress, to me,112100:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.480



it should be at the most two terms two year112200:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.840



term each four years are out. There's no way you112300:53:43.840 --> 00:53:45.599



should be able to get in and be there for112400:53:45.679 --> 00:53:49.239



thirty forty sixty years and still have influence. And the112500:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.400



only reason they are doing this is because they're getting112600:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.760



power and they're getting money. If we could take that112700:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.159



away from take those the centers away, maybe that can112800:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.039



help curb some of the corruption.112900:53:58.679 --> 00:54:00.800



So now The only thing that weird about that is113000:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.840



that the money thing is absolutely happening. Like, yeah, I113100:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.480



haven't read the book yet, but I'm totally forgetting the113200:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.280



title of it. But a guy wrote a book last113300:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.480



year and it's just all about how, you know, how113400:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.000



they get rich, and it's like it's across the boards.113500:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.280



It's not speaking engagement in book deals. We know.113600:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.159



And but the power part is interesting because I don't113700:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.679



think Congress is interested in power. They're interested in keeping113800:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.320



their seat, but they're not exercising their powers.113900:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.360



Is there no power in keeping that seat? Because I114000:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.800



mean it's all about influence though.114100:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.840



Yes, no, I actually don't think it is anymore because114200:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.559



if it was about influence at all, more Republicans would114300:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.159



push back on Trump, and more Democrats would push back114400:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.079



on Biden, like they did stuff that was against their114500:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.239



interest in keeping their seats, even like if you were114600:54:51.280 --> 00:54:56.519



really interested in having the power, like well, here's two examples, Okay,114700:54:57.000 --> 00:55:01.679



I think that like future thinking Democrat, the future thinking114800:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.880



Democrats and Republicans had opportunities to take back the reigns114900:55:05.920 --> 00:55:07.880



of Congress and make themselves seem a little bit more115000:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.320



legitimate and throw their weight around and I would say115100:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.320



with Trump, it's obviously his impeachment and removal. Republican in Congress. Actually,115200:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.800



they didn't want the uncomfortableness of the death threats they115300:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.159



were getting, which is insane to me. Also, by the way,115400:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.199



that's totally that's warping. The death threats that people's families115500:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.559



are getting in Congress is it's not something that you115600:55:26.599 --> 00:55:28.679



should have to worry about, and all that on. It115700:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.639



be something people have to worry about. But now people115800:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.800



are leaving Congress. Most of the people that are leaving115900:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.400



Congress are going, you know, I'm a politician. I signed116000:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.360



up for this. My family did not, though, and so116100:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.599



I can't do and so that's a that's a really116200:55:40.639 --> 00:55:44.159



bad part of it. But they had They basically chose116300:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.840



to not piss off the crowd and do the easy116400:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.599



thing because they just thought it would take care of himself.116500:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.159



They just thought, well, no, surely, after January sixth, no116600:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.840



one's gonna put Donald Trump in power again. And so116700:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.519



they didn't do the thing that they should have done.116800:55:57.880 --> 00:55:59.840



And I think Democrats did the same thing with Joe Biden.116900:56:00.159 --> 00:56:03.320



Like Dean Phillips is the only Democrat with any credibility117000:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.000



to me, because there's no way everyone didn't see what117100:56:06.079 --> 00:56:07.559



was going on, and they lied to us, and they117200:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.400



lied to themselves, and they lied to party and all117300:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.719



this stuff. And then on top of that, when his117400:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.360



behavior was bad, like for example, him the preemptive pardons,117500:56:16.480 --> 00:56:20.519



especially for his family, I think democrat if you wanted to,117600:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.320



if you were, if you were a House Republican, I117700:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.079



mean a House Democrat at the end of his term,117800:56:26.679 --> 00:56:29.039



I think it would have been wise to bring up117900:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.639



articles of impeachment against him so that you were consistent118000:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.559



about it. And when you're running for president in twenty118100:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.760



twenty eight, you get to go to Pete boodhaj Edge118200:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.800



and Kamala Harris and everyone else that wasn't on board118300:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.400



with it and go so you're okay with President's giving118400:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.039



pardons their family because you know Donald Trump's going to118500:56:44.079 --> 00:56:45.559



do that in a couple of months, right, and you're118600:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.320



not going to have a leg to stand on. And118700:56:47.400 --> 00:56:49.760



so I think there have been opportunities in just the118800:56:49.800 --> 00:56:54.000



past four years where they had such an obvious like118900:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.840



the country would be with them, Like no one felt119000:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.559



good about those pardons, no one, like J six people119100:57:01.599 --> 00:57:03.559



are now making excuses for it. And stuff, But like119200:57:03.599 --> 00:57:05.800



you had, those are seventy thirty issues for the most119300:57:05.800 --> 00:57:07.679



part when they happened, and you could have gotten on119400:57:07.719 --> 00:57:11.199



the board in something popular, and instead you chose to119500:57:11.199 --> 00:57:15.400



capitulate to Joe Biden or to Donald Trump. And so119600:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.039



to me, it's like in Congress right now, could take119700:57:18.199 --> 00:57:20.719



like I think most Republicans in Congress know that the119800:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.559



tariffs are a bad idea, and yet they won't put119900:57:23.559 --> 00:57:25.440



their foot down and say we're taking away these powers120000:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.480



from the president. They know the way he's using the FCC.120100:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.599



I think it's a great opportunity to like mothball some120200:57:32.639 --> 00:57:34.800



of these things. I don't think the FCC should exist.120300:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.320



I don't think it. I think we've given way too120400:57:37.400 --> 00:57:38.880



much power to the federal government.120500:57:38.760 --> 00:57:39.920



That time is coming gone.120600:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.679



Yeah, yeah, and you know so I'm with you on120700:57:45.440 --> 00:57:49.000



I just don't think those are the the biggest problems120800:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.119



with Congress. I think the biggest problem with Congress they're120900:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.199



not willing to pas. They don't want to pass laws anymore.121000:57:53.519 --> 00:57:54.880



They don't want to have to do that work.121100:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.280



So it's as I've said, and I've heard you say121200:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.800



it yourself. As a team sport, right, yeah, now, if121300:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.400



they're what they're doing is in my mind, keeping power.121400:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.400



Look if you have if you're able to keep your seat,121500:58:09.480 --> 00:58:12.079



you keep the influence, you keep control of Congress to121600:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.480



do what keep your party in power. As far as121700:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.320



far as you said about Trump and Biden, I completely121800:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.840



agree with you. I I think there was an opportunity121900:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.280



to do something on either side that could have spoke122000:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.400



volumes for the people. But let's be honest at that time,122100:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.880



who were the choices? Well, right, but on either side.122200:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.440



But in both those situations, they don't even have elections122300:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.079



coming up for two years, like they just got elected.122400:58:36.159 --> 00:58:39.719



Like it's like like everything about it is primed for122500:58:39.800 --> 00:58:41.719



you doing the right thing. You don't have an election122600:58:41.840 --> 00:58:43.800



coming up, you don't have a hard vote thing. It's122700:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.760



just like, do the right thing, And they can't even122800:58:46.760 --> 00:58:47.840



do it in those situations.122900:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.239



I just think there's no But they're just saying in general,123000:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.039



I'll talk about like presidential choices at the time, like oh, Trump,123100:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.159



it made sense because he had that momentum already. He123200:58:56.280 --> 00:58:58.840



was already saying, oh the election was stolen, I'm coming back,123300:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.760



I'm gonna take this. Yeah. The thing with Biden, it123400:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.679



was like who else did your choice. Hillary wasn't gonna123500:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.039



get it. Everybody else was too young and too new123600:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.400



to the party yet to really you know, take it on.123700:59:10.519 --> 00:59:13.360



So Biden was yeah, But don't you think don't you.123800:59:13.360 --> 00:59:15.559



Think in twenty twenty two, after the midterms, especially when123900:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.480



Democrats did better than anyone thought they would in those midterms,124000:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.400



don't you think that if Joe Biden, like, just think124100:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.320



about this alternate history, Joe Biden comes out and says, look,124200:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.360



you elected me to be you elected me to not124300:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.960



be Donald Trump, because you know, that's what America wanted.124400:59:31.000 --> 00:59:32.840



They did not want Donald Trump. They wanted someone else.124500:59:32.840 --> 00:59:34.719



They wanted to return to normalcy, and that's why they124600:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.239



picked me over all the progressive nonsense in the Democratic primary.124700:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.199



Like he could come out and say all this right,124800:59:40.920 --> 00:59:45.320



and so look what I've done so far. Now, at124900:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.719



that point, he'd already done the Afghanistan woodraw, which was125000:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.199



a disaster, and I mean that really his poll numbers125100:59:50.199 --> 00:59:52.679



never recovered after that, So he's already he should have125200:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.960



seen that. But again, both these people have really fragile egos,125300:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.800



and I think that they are. I think everyone around125400:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.199



them lies to them too. I don't it's because they125501:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.559



demand that. And so Biden, I think, really believe he125601:00:02.599 --> 01:00:05.199



is more popular than he really was, just like Trump thinks.125701:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.280



He doesn't believe any bad poles, only believes the good125801:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.480



stuff and people. No one's going to bring him bad news.125901:00:09.519 --> 01:00:11.519



No one wants to bring Trump bad news. But if126001:00:11.519 --> 01:00:15.239



Biden would to come out and said I did, I'm126101:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.159



not Trump, I've and here's what I'm going to do.126201:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.159



I'm not going to run in twenty twenty four, and126301:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.400



I want there to be a robust debate in the126401:00:23.400 --> 01:00:26.559



Democratic Party for who takes over the reins. But I126501:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.800



said I was going to be a bridge builder, and126601:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.440



I'm going to be a bridge in the next generation.126701:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.320



And so I'm doing that. I'm saying, right now, go126801:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.039



for it. Democrats, figure this out, and I will. I'll126901:00:36.079 --> 01:00:40.000



support whoever the Democratic Party chooses, you know, like through127001:00:40.039 --> 01:00:43.480



a normal primary process. If at the same time he127101:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.920



chose to say, hey, remember how much we were scared127201:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.679



of Donald Trump and him abusing the powers that we've127301:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.119



given the executive branch. Instead of abusing those powers myself,127401:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.079



I want Congress to take some of those powers back.127501:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.559



And here's the thing. Don't like Joe Biden was set127601:00:59.599 --> 01:01:01.559



up to be that he was a Senator for forever,127701:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.199



like he cares about that institution. I believe that Joe127801:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.320



Biden cares about the institute of the Senate. And I127901:01:07.360 --> 01:01:12.079



don't think I don't think he want like I think128001:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.239



he was not tricked, but I think the people around128101:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.119



him wanted to steal that power. But I mean, I128201:01:16.159 --> 01:01:16.800



think he very.128301:01:16.760 --> 01:01:17.480



Much still looked.128401:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.719



Obama owes a lot of credit to Joe Biden actually128501:01:20.760 --> 01:01:22.800



knowing how to go to Capitol Hill and make deals happen,128601:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.719



and Obama was not good at that, and so I128701:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.000



think he actually owes Joe Biden's some credit, even though128801:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.199



I don't think Joe Biden's a particularly great politician or128901:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.360



you know, I only ever has been. But if he129001:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.280



would have come out and said that and then said, hey, Congress,129101:01:34.320 --> 01:01:36.400



I want you to take away the executive branch's ability129201:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.440



to do this and this and this and all the129301:01:38.440 --> 01:01:41.280



things that Trump abused and instead of abusing them myself.129401:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.840



But no one, like everyone wants more power than they have.129501:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.280



Yeah, everything you're saying is right, but you know you're129601:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.320



talking more about political strategy right for either side at129701:01:52.320 --> 01:01:56.039



this point, versus what people recognize them doing. You know, look,129801:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.000



the premptive parton thing was that was at the end129901:02:00.119 --> 01:02:02.440



of Biden. It didn't even matter at that point. But130001:02:02.599 --> 01:02:04.599



what stuck out to me with what happened to Biden130101:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.719



was how he handled if kass In. For one, then130201:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.159



the Ukraine Russia war. You can see where that went130301:02:10.199 --> 01:02:12.000



because they chose not to get involved or doing anything,130401:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.000



put their foot down when they could have. And then130501:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.719



we can't even ignore the her tapes, the interviews where130601:02:19.440 --> 01:02:23.039



actual business associates and family members admitted to what they130701:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.599



were doing, and then that somehow went away and never130801:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.039



anything ever happened.130901:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.119



Well, and we got told Robert hur was, you know,131001:02:29.440 --> 01:02:33.000



he got dragged through the mud, and like he's totally vindicated.131101:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.079



And I don't hear a lot of apologies from the131201:02:36.119 --> 01:02:38.719



press that like where's the accountability.131301:02:39.039 --> 01:02:40.760



Yeah, no, they're saying, let's go off for an old131401:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.800



and old guy. But I mean something.131501:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.079



I think the biggest the problem though, is that, well,131601:02:47.079 --> 01:02:48.639



first of all, I think Donald Trump and Joe Biden131701:02:48.679 --> 01:02:50.400



are a lot more similar than they are different. I131801:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.000



think they both have fragile egos. I think that intellectually,131901:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.400



you know, I think there's a lot of there's and honestly,132001:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.079



they both do not give a crap about the Constitution whatsoever.132101:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.519



Joe Biden over and over again tried to forget student debt,132201:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.199



even though Supreme Court kept coming back and be like,132301:03:02.400 --> 01:03:03.400



you don't.132401:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.559



Have power to do that.132501:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.360



Congress does, right, and Donald Trump does the same thing.132601:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.559



It's like my way or the highway. And I think132701:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.840



there's this weird thing where when people get in power132801:03:12.000 --> 01:03:16.360



either party. For most of my life now, especially since132901:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.559



twenty ten, i'd say is we've got to do everything.133001:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.920



We got to cram everything into these next two years133101:03:22.960 --> 01:03:24.920



because we're never going to get another chance again. It's like,133201:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.760



even when they're in power, they act like the party133301:03:27.760 --> 01:03:31.719



that's out of power. And I think that clearly when133401:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.880



you have twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty133501:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.679



four four elections in a row, that we keep just133601:03:36.719 --> 01:03:38.920



going nope, nope, nope, nope, we're just going back and forth,133701:03:39.840 --> 01:03:41.679



that says that people are not like they're going, let's133801:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.960



give these other guys. We're really just firing one person.133901:03:44.039 --> 01:03:45.840



It's just that we have to hire. We only have134001:03:45.880 --> 01:03:46.719



one higher option.134101:03:47.119 --> 01:03:47.360



Right.134201:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.920



Every time this happens when it comes to the president specifically.134301:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.199



That's kind of what my poem was earlier, is exactly134401:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.719



what you just said. You just said it better than134501:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.440



I did. Yeah, it's just like they don't have it.134601:03:57.440 --> 01:03:58.639



It's like what choice do we have?134701:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.639



And that's where I go, Okay, we've got to move134801:04:00.719 --> 01:04:02.880



backwards from that, and we got to say, first of all,134901:04:02.920 --> 01:04:04.880



the president's not that important. We've got to go back135001:04:04.880 --> 01:04:09.559



to the president being properly in the president's role. And135101:04:09.599 --> 01:04:11.800



we just moved so far away from what Article two135201:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.760



of the Constitution says, and Congress has advocated so much135301:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.920



of their power to the executive brandch like that has135401:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.199



to get back in order. That will, unfortunately take a135501:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.079



president and a Speaker of the House that are willing135601:04:23.079 --> 01:04:26.000



to do it of the same party. We can't even135701:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.880



get a president that does the right thing. Like I said,135801:04:27.920 --> 01:04:30.239



Joe Biden could have said, I want Congress to take135901:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.679



back their power. If they didn't at that point, he136001:04:32.760 --> 01:04:34.960



can be like I tried, and Congress wouldn't do it.136101:04:35.039 --> 01:04:38.079



You know what I mean? Right, But you you're going136201:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.000



to need end like Congress is all sorts of I mean,136301:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.760



we could spend weeks talking about what you're on Congress,136401:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.320



because it's not just the stuff you're talking about, it's136501:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.039



also just the process of how it works. It's all136601:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.239



top down leadership. There's no committee stuff bubbling up like136701:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.960



we're not allowing like basically no one has any power.136801:04:52.000 --> 01:04:53.920



All you do when you go to Congress is fundraise136901:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.880



for years. You don't ever get to write a bill.137001:04:57.199 --> 01:04:58.599



You probably don't get a vote on a bill. I mean,137101:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.320



Congress has passed three bill I think since Donald Trump137201:05:01.320 --> 01:05:02.800



can president. It's been eight or nine months.137301:05:03.440 --> 01:05:05.880



And the pork man, I mean, come on, can we137401:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.599



on some of these? Can we have them single subject bills?137501:05:09.639 --> 01:05:10.239



Can we do that?137601:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.800



Can I give you another unpopular opinion that I was.137701:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.559



I was swayed on. I used to be similar. I137801:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.639



was like, this is a waste. It would be it's137901:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.199



basically pennies on the dollar if you take all the pork,138001:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.599



if you actually put more pork and stuff to get138101:05:23.639 --> 01:05:27.440



people to compromise in the sense that like that's because that's.138201:05:27.360 --> 01:05:28.079



What that's all it is.138301:05:29.079 --> 01:05:32.519



Why And the point is like if you could get like,138401:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.760



for example, like a real plan to fix the national debt,138501:05:36.679 --> 01:05:39.000



like I'll give you all the pork, you want because138601:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000



it's like pennies on the dollars on what we'll say.138701:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.159



I get it, I get it. But like when we138801:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.280



were talking about back when they were trying to tie138901:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.320



together locking down our borders and then giving Ukraine X139001:05:50.360 --> 01:05:52.920



amount of millions of billions and then tying to trying139101:05:52.960 --> 01:05:56.719



those together. You know, yeah, it's important, but they should139201:05:56.719 --> 01:05:57.719



have been separate issues.139301:05:58.039 --> 01:05:59.800



But I think the problem is you'll never get a139401:05:59.800 --> 01:06:05.039



call loungerst that votes on single issue stuff. It's like139501:06:05.159 --> 01:06:07.840



they can't be seen to have voted no on the thing.139601:06:07.880 --> 01:06:09.320



And that's why they don't bring stuff to the floor139701:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.159



at all anymore. They don't even want to have to139801:06:11.239 --> 01:06:14.199



vote no on the thing. You're right, huh, you know,139901:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.000



And so like there's so many processes that are wrong140001:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.519



with and there's some there's some really interesting ways I've140101:06:19.800 --> 01:06:21.639



been SaaS is someone I really like, who was the140201:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.039



senator from Nebraska. He's not anymore, but he's had some140301:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.400



he wrote I think is Washington Post Times. I can't140401:06:26.400 --> 01:06:27.760



remember it, like a whole article about like here's some140501:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.159



things I would change about the Senate that don't require140601:06:30.159 --> 01:06:32.199



it's like just rule changes. Literally, we don't have to140701:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.760



like get an amendment or anything. It's like, I think140801:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.960



they should live together. I think we should literally have140901:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.199



like congressional dorms of sort where you're actually spending time141001:06:40.239 --> 01:06:42.199



with these people and stuff like that. They're just all141101:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.199



these things that were like and and so you know,141201:06:45.239 --> 01:06:51.679



it's like my problem is that everyone, like everyone excuses141301:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.119



the behavior on their side. No one's ever upset about141401:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.920



the corruption or the or the power grabs or the141501:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.119



unconstitutionality or even the violent excuse me of violence, Like141601:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.320



no one ever calls that on their side, because it's141701:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.280



not just a team sport. It's become a religion for141801:07:08.320 --> 01:07:12.199



a lot of people, Like this has replaced religion as141901:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.559



people's really like people didn't leave religion, they just found142001:07:15.559 --> 01:07:17.880



another one. And the other one is now And you142101:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.000



think about it, like look at like the messianic stuff,142201:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.440



like I said, with Obama and Trump, and it's it's creepy.142301:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.199



Like I'm a Christian and it thoroughly grosses me out142401:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.320



because I'm like, Jesus does not you know, Jesus does142501:07:29.360 --> 01:07:31.719



not need Donald Trump to save him. Like that's not142601:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.599



like you're not really you don't really believe in Christianity142701:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.400



if you think that, like if Donald Trump's not elected,142801:07:40.519 --> 01:07:42.559



that like Christians are going to be murdered in the142901:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.239



streets or something like that. Like you're just not like143001:07:44.280 --> 01:07:45.599



you don't really have a faith in God. You have143101:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.519



faith in Donald Trump and you think Donald Trump like143201:07:47.559 --> 01:07:49.599



God needs Donald Trump or something. And it's the same thing,143301:07:49.599 --> 01:07:51.039



Like I said, the same kind of stuff happens on143401:07:51.039 --> 01:07:55.000



the left. They just replaced with it again. How you143501:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.800



talked about the the sort of the way the left143601:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.480



talked about the stuff that like you can't if you143701:08:01.519 --> 01:08:06.599



say there's only two genders, you are hateful. Again, this143801:08:06.639 --> 01:08:08.679



is something that ten years ago everyone would agreed on.143901:08:08.800 --> 01:08:10.760



You've literally you've been like, why are you asking me144001:08:10.840 --> 01:08:12.960



a question? Is this a trick question? They've been trying144101:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.079



to figure out what the what the angle is. Yeah,144201:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.359



there's two genders, like no one would have said otherwise. Right, right,144301:08:18.399 --> 01:08:20.319



and again, I want people to be able to live.144401:08:20.439 --> 01:08:22.159



I think what's great about America is that you get144501:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.800



to do you got to live the life you want144601:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.520



to leave leap you know, that's the beauty of it144701:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.279



is that and that's why people come here, and that's144801:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.479



why it's it's I love that part of America that144901:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.840



like people get to come here and like my I145001:08:34.880 --> 01:08:40.279



mentioned my my wife's grandparents, like our great grandparents moved145101:08:40.279 --> 01:08:42.359



here when they were pregnant with their grandpa from Italy.145201:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.359



You know, almost everyone has some story like that, unless145301:08:45.399 --> 01:08:47.840



you're just native American. I guess like almost everyone came145401:08:47.880 --> 01:08:48.760



here from somewhere else.145501:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.600



Yeah, And I like that.145601:08:50.680 --> 01:08:52.680



It's like most it's like people got to go make145701:08:52.760 --> 01:08:56.439



a different life. And I think that's also for I145801:08:56.439 --> 01:08:57.800



think there will be people that do it in a145901:08:57.800 --> 01:08:59.760



way that I disagree with, and I'm also love what146001:08:59.800 --> 01:09:02.720



I love. America's like different states can do a different way,146101:09:02.760 --> 01:09:04.680



different cities can do a different way, Like if we146201:09:04.720 --> 01:09:07.279



don't have this uniform thing, you can't do that with146301:09:07.319 --> 01:09:10.359



three hundred and thirty million people. And the problem is146401:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.760



the left specifically got into a situation where they were146501:09:13.760 --> 01:09:15.960



pressured by their progressive wing or whatever, but they also146601:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.039



turned everything to a moralistic thing. Everything was black and white.146701:09:19.079 --> 01:09:22.319



It was you are either on our side or your evil. Yeah,146801:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.119



there was no that was exactly it.146901:09:24.279 --> 01:09:24.479



Yeah.147001:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.000



Yeah, And they did that worse than the Republicans did147101:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.439



and ever have, in my opinion, and they're still doing it,147201:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.520



and they're not learning from their mistake. It's like the147301:09:31.560 --> 01:09:35.439



trans stuff is such a funny thing to me, because like,147401:09:35.960 --> 01:09:39.319



why are you still arguing for guys to be in147501:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.800



women's sports? Like we can talk about like you could147601:09:41.840 --> 01:09:44.560



say that I want, Like we could have all sorts147701:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.520



of disagreements about like the details of what should children147801:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.199



be given hormone? Should we have surgeries?147901:09:50.279 --> 01:09:50.640



Is it wrong?148001:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.520



Can adults be transgender? Should they be in women's bathrooms?148101:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.680



We can have all these discussions. I don't see how148201:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.760



anyone is still defending the sports thing because it's so148301:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.119



like voters are just like that's crazy. Caitlyn Jenner says148401:10:03.159 --> 01:10:07.239



it's crazy. Who was an Olympic athlete and says that's insane.148501:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.560



If you have people that used to be men who148601:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.560



now identifies women competing against women, it's not safe for women.148701:10:13.680 --> 01:10:15.880



It's anti women, it's anti feminism. It's like all the148801:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.079



stuff you're undoing, all the stuff that feminists try to do,148901:10:18.680 --> 01:10:20.439



but like they have to go along with it because149001:10:20.479 --> 01:10:21.800



otherwise you're ostracized.149101:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.560



I I agree with you out Blake, what's okay? I149201:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.920



didn't think where you go talking about this? But yeah,149301:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.439



I didn't talk. But since we're talking about it, my149401:10:31.439 --> 01:10:36.720



thing is this, I don't believe we should be celebrating149501:10:36.760 --> 01:10:40.720



sexual preference. We should be celebrating humans, and whatever I149601:10:40.800 --> 01:10:43.000



tell you is that they do in their achievements. The149701:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.079



other thing is, I don't care what anybody says. If149801:10:46.159 --> 01:10:47.399



you want to be trans and you want to have149901:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.880



that surgery when you become an adult and you're out150001:10:49.880 --> 01:10:51.560



of high school and you believe that's what you are,150101:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.000



go for it. Go for it.150201:10:53.000 --> 01:10:55.239



I don't think it'll make you happy most of the time.150301:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.239



Like I don't think it's the silver roll that a150401:10:57.279 --> 01:10:59.039



lot of people are on the left are claiming it150501:10:59.119 --> 01:10:59.840



is for you.150601:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.439



Being though they're an adult at that point. Yep. My150701:11:02.640 --> 01:11:07.560



problem is you can't convince me a kindergartener decides one150801:11:07.640 --> 01:11:12.039



day they're a different sex. No, someone put that there. Yep,150901:11:12.520 --> 01:11:13.720



period totally agree.151001:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.800



It's a I would just have this conversation with some151101:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.920



friends because we know someone that it's like they're two151201:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.319



or three year old, and I just go there is151301:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.000



that is or celebrities that have two transgender kids, like151401:11:28.079 --> 01:11:34.119



you know, statistically that is an impossibility, right that idea?151501:11:34.640 --> 01:11:38.000



That is the well and what my theory on that,151601:11:38.119 --> 01:11:39.640



by the way, and by the way, this is also151701:11:39.680 --> 01:11:41.399



my theory for I kind of mentioned this at the151801:11:41.399 --> 01:11:44.399



top of the show, like most of the crazies, the151901:11:44.760 --> 01:11:46.960



right is trying to paint this thing is like and152001:11:47.000 --> 01:11:48.760



I don't think they're totally wrong, but again, they're not152101:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.359



coming at it from the right. I don't think they're152201:11:51.399 --> 01:11:51.720



saying it.152301:11:51.680 --> 01:11:53.560



The right way. Their approach the right.152401:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.399



Their approach there right now is saying that, like, look152501:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.239



at all these shooters and violent people that were transgender,152601:11:58.279 --> 01:12:00.600



and they're not wrong about it, and the left does152701:12:00.720 --> 01:12:01.239



need to own it.152801:12:01.279 --> 01:12:01.960



The left.152901:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.000



I love how like New York Times apporp twenty paragraphs153001:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.319



in before they mention any of this stuff, they're they're153101:12:07.479 --> 01:12:10.399



they're never using pronouns. They're trying to like dance around.153201:12:10.479 --> 01:12:12.319



We're not going to mention anything because they don't want153301:12:12.319 --> 01:12:16.079



to admit it. I think the problem the right is153401:12:16.119 --> 01:12:20.520



saying transgenderism causes this thing. I actually think they've got153501:12:20.520 --> 01:12:23.880



that backwards. I think that most disturbed people or crazy153601:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.720



people are influenced by the culture around them. And this153701:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.479



is something we've been constantly talking about in the culture153801:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.960



for a decade now or so, and on top of that,153901:12:33.000 --> 01:12:34.800



it's not just that we're constantly talking about it. We154001:12:35.000 --> 01:12:41.560



like we celebrate people that transition. Now if they detransition154101:12:41.600 --> 01:12:44.359



and change their mind, they're vilified by the way. Again,154201:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.560



I don't really believe in people's choice to do stuff154301:12:46.600 --> 01:12:48.920



if you vilify the people that transition and want to154401:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.039



talk about it, if you call them bigots and they154501:12:51.079 --> 01:12:54.119



actually live the experience. And so I think what it's154601:12:54.159 --> 01:12:58.840



become is most people the left has embraced victimhood as154701:12:58.920 --> 01:13:03.640



a legitimate thing to be proud of. And they've done154801:13:03.680 --> 01:13:06.560



this with race, and they've done this with all sorts154901:13:06.600 --> 01:13:10.279



of things race sexuality. Again, sexuality is the least interesting155001:13:10.359 --> 01:13:13.199



part of anyone's personality in my opinion. It's just like155101:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.880



it's just not interesting to me. I don't sit around155201:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.000



and talk about people's like sexual preferences.155301:13:19.039 --> 01:13:20.880



Don't wake up and that's top of mind.155401:13:21.079 --> 01:13:22.880



Like, yeah, it's just not important to me, and it155501:13:22.960 --> 01:13:27.159



but it became the most important thing. And it also155601:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.800



is a I've got to outdo the next weirdest thing.155701:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.560



So I mean, it was like gay people just want155801:13:32.600 --> 01:13:35.119



to get married, and then it's like, well, now we155901:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.520



got that, so what do we do next, well transgender156001:13:37.560 --> 01:13:39.600



people or like we should be able to have fifty156101:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.680



different genders or we should like it just like to me,156201:13:42.960 --> 01:13:46.199



But the victimhood thing, it's a great way for white people,156301:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.199



white middle class, upper class people to end up being156401:13:49.239 --> 01:13:52.199



a victim. And so if there if their kid is trans,156501:13:52.279 --> 01:13:54.000



it's a way for them to be in a victim156601:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.600



class if they're you know, and we've seen this with156701:13:57.640 --> 01:13:59.520



all sorts of things. You've seen people fake this. You've156801:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.439



seen people, you know, like fake being black. You know,156901:14:02.520 --> 01:14:07.000



we've seen that happen multiple fake being minority. Elizabeth Warren157001:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.720



did it by pretending to be Native American for example.157101:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.479



Like I'm just saying, like people are they it's hard157201:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.520



when you have this guilt, when the left is like157301:14:15.600 --> 01:14:19.279



inundated people with this, like America is bad. White people157401:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.520



are bad. If you're not poor, you're bad. Everything about157501:14:24.560 --> 01:14:27.720



you is evil. People are going to be desperate to157601:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.520



find something that makes them accepted in a group. And157701:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.640



I think that is I think it's a social contagion157801:14:33.800 --> 01:14:36.720



because like I'm not saying it, there are legitimate cases157901:14:36.800 --> 01:14:41.239



of it, absolutely, but they're much more rare. Like you158001:14:41.279 --> 01:14:43.000



just look at the numbers and you look at the158101:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.079



social influence of it and how it's hav any more158201:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.399



like transgenderism, Like the true medical thing that used to158301:14:48.479 --> 01:14:52.439



happen was exclusively with like two or three year old boys,158401:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.520



and it was very very tiny percentages of people. It158501:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.159



never I mean, don't quote me on never. All the158601:14:59.159 --> 01:15:01.760



stuff I've ever seen said it was almost never documented158701:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.960



with the little girls wanting to come boys, But it's158801:15:06.000 --> 01:15:07.079



women transition to men.158901:15:07.199 --> 01:15:10.000



I have something parallel in terms of theory about this159001:15:10.199 --> 01:15:13.600



because when you brought up transgender and then you know159101:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.479



obviously where people are relating that to school shooters. Now,159201:15:18.720 --> 01:15:20.439



one of those shows I did, I did recently, but159301:15:20.760 --> 01:15:23.199



my recall, I got to have the data in front159401:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.079



of you it, so I may be wrong on some159501:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.920



of these numbers, but I just did. Okay, so five159601:15:28.960 --> 01:15:31.960



hundred and seventy four school shootings, right, I think it159701:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.880



was between ninety nine and twenty twenty four or ninety159801:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.279



something somewhere in there. Five hundred and seventy four. A159901:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.199



lot of people fail to realize or recognize that most160001:15:41.199 --> 01:15:44.880



school shootings are actually done by students, not necessarily adults.160101:15:45.560 --> 01:15:47.600



Within that same period of times, when there was an160201:15:47.680 --> 01:15:53.880



increase in medicating your child with SSR rise and other antidepressants.160301:15:54.479 --> 01:15:57.359



The correlation and rise is there, and you can see160401:15:57.520 --> 01:15:59.000



I can send this to you later if you want160501:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.720



what I found, I'll send Yeah. Also within that time,160601:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.399



when as you got closer to twenty twenty four, then160701:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.000



I'm not gonna say that, but there's anyway there's a160801:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000



period of time years where you start to see the160901:16:11.039 --> 01:16:17.119



emergence of the transgender school shooter. So I agree that161001:16:18.319 --> 01:16:21.279



it's people who are easily influenced, but we also got161101:16:21.279 --> 01:16:24.039



to also look at what also led to them to161201:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.319



be easily influenced, Because when you're when you're under medications161301:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.520



and you're told that you're depressed and you need something161401:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.520



to be proud of and something that represents you, and161501:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.640



then you're getting this rhetoric and narrative to shoved down161601:16:34.680 --> 01:16:36.279



your throat, and then you start to believe, well, maybe161701:16:36.319 --> 01:16:38.880



I'm not who I am, I'm really this person instead.161801:16:39.640 --> 01:16:41.279



And I'm not trying to make excuses, but I'm just161901:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.960



saying that we can see a correlation between medications and162001:16:46.000 --> 01:16:50.920



then the narrative of find your true self, whoever you are,162101:16:51.000 --> 01:16:55.159



right within children, and then we see the rise in162201:16:55.239 --> 01:17:00.960



correlation in shootings at schools, which again primarily by students.162301:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.680



It's not necessarily adults. Some of them have happened by162401:17:03.680 --> 01:17:05.079



adults for the most part.162501:17:05.159 --> 01:17:06.600



Yeah, overwhelmingly, it's a lot.162601:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.399



Of people ignore that. They ignore that, well, it was162701:17:09.439 --> 01:17:12.439



a child who actually shot other children.162801:17:13.359 --> 01:17:15.439



Yeah, I've got a simpler explanation.162901:17:15.880 --> 01:17:16.279



Sure.163001:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.319



I think the data absolutely shows that the media is163101:17:21.359 --> 01:17:26.199



the problem. The problem is we glorify schools and and163201:17:26.239 --> 01:17:29.560



that's my thing with the transgenderism. So we've glorified transgenderism.163301:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.279



And if you are are like every school shooter is163401:17:33.279 --> 01:17:35.520



not mentally ill. I don't like that we just jumped163501:17:35.520 --> 01:17:38.319



straight to mental illness and jump straight to mental health.163601:17:38.399 --> 01:17:41.279



I'm like, no, no, no, no, some like this person was163701:17:41.319 --> 01:17:43.479



just evil, like now sometimes they are like you, like,163801:17:43.640 --> 01:17:45.439



you can see the you can see the prescriptions, you163901:17:45.439 --> 01:17:46.479



can see the mental health.164001:17:46.560 --> 01:17:46.640



Like.164101:17:46.880 --> 01:17:50.079



But the the way, the best way I heard it164201:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.199



put was like, if you are a crazy person, let's164301:17:52.199 --> 01:17:54.399



say you're schizophrenic or something like that, and you're in America,164401:17:54.439 --> 01:17:56.399



you might think you're Jesus because we're still a pretty164501:17:56.720 --> 01:17:59.159



Christian culture and stuff, and like that's gonna you're gonna164601:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.520



You're going to pick up the things that are in164701:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.479



your culture. But if you're crazy in India, you're not164801:18:05.600 --> 01:18:09.000



going to think you're Jesus, because that's not that's not164901:18:09.079 --> 01:18:11.920



in the culture. So, you know, you look at the number,165001:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.600



especially these school shooters that like were trans and then165101:18:14.640 --> 01:18:18.720



weren't trands. Especially, you go, that's such a clear social165201:18:18.800 --> 01:18:20.920



contagion kind of thing, like they picked up on that.165301:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.439



And then all you have to do is look at165401:18:23.560 --> 01:18:26.239



the and I don't love I don't I really don't165501:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.199



like saying their names. I don't like giving them any165601:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.000



more notoriety and than they desire. Because this Minnesota one165701:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.600



that just happened, so obvious, what's going on? He wrote165801:18:34.640 --> 01:18:37.199



the names of a bunch of other school shooters on165901:18:37.279 --> 01:18:41.239



the magazines Malcom Gladwell really great to get to that actually,166001:18:41.399 --> 01:18:45.279



and so yeah, and so that like to me, And166101:18:45.560 --> 01:18:47.880



I've seen some studies that say basically every school shooter166201:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.960



gets about seventy five million dollars in free press afterwards,166301:18:51.039 --> 01:18:53.520



especially if they die in the process, because we're trying166401:18:53.520 --> 01:18:57.039



to without having that person to talk to at all166501:18:57.439 --> 01:18:59.880



or get more information from, we just have to scour166601:19:00.039 --> 01:19:04.319



their online presence and their social media and their manifestos,166701:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.680



and we get to theorize on what happens and what166801:19:06.760 --> 01:19:09.079



happens you get like a situation in South Carolina where166901:19:09.119 --> 01:19:11.880



on a school shooting. But was that North Carolina? South Carolina?167001:19:11.920 --> 01:19:13.800



The guy that went to the black church and killed167101:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.800



a bunch of people, right, I won't recall. I think167201:19:15.840 --> 01:19:17.920



it was North Carolina. I can't. Yeah, one of Carolina's167301:19:17.960 --> 01:19:20.920



And you know he has this like racist website that167401:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.920



hates black people. I bet no one had ever been167501:19:23.960 --> 01:19:27.159



to the website before and now it's on CNN. Well,167601:19:27.560 --> 01:19:29.880



what do you think happens in that situation? More people167701:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.680



see that stuff, more people want influenced by it, people167801:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.399



want the notoriety, and over and over again. In these manifestos,167901:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.439



these last several ones specifically, they are literally talking about168001:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.800



the reason I did this is because I looked up168101:19:41.840 --> 01:19:44.159



to these other people that did it and the notoriety168201:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.279



they got, and the media won't stop talking about it.168301:19:46.279 --> 01:19:47.960



They know to do it with suicides, but they won't168401:19:48.000 --> 01:19:48.920



do it with shootings.168501:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.000



I think that's the case for some of these people168601:19:51.039 --> 01:19:53.239



for sure, because you're always going to have copycatch and168701:19:53.279 --> 01:19:57.840



always have people who are like into this serial killer culture. Now,168801:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.600



that's some of it, and we could also argue that168901:20:00.600 --> 01:20:04.960



that is also that is also a trade of someone169001:20:04.960 --> 01:20:07.439



who might be mentally ill. But I don't believe, as169101:20:07.439 --> 01:20:10.600



you said earlier, that everything is mental illness. For example,169201:20:10.800 --> 01:20:12.920



we just saw talk about just happened with the Catholic169301:20:12.920 --> 01:20:17.199



school shooting. You just brought up. Yeah, that person if169401:20:17.239 --> 01:20:19.560



you look, if you look through the if you look169501:20:19.600 --> 01:20:22.399



through his journal, if you look to that person's journal169601:20:22.439 --> 01:20:24.680



and you read everything that was going on, is drawing169701:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.000



of himself looking looking in the mirror, looking like a169801:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.000



demon or devil looking back at him. That was someone169901:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.600



who didn't feel that they were accepted. They didn't they170001:20:33.600 --> 01:20:35.439



couldn't find their place in the world. They felt at170101:20:35.439 --> 01:20:37.840



a place, they had nowhere to go, nowhere to talk to.170201:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.760



I think in a lot of cases that that's what170301:20:40.880 --> 01:20:42.720



happens with some of these children or some of these170401:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.840



people that made become trans I don't think they're insane, no,170501:20:46.039 --> 01:20:47.600



I just I just think that they don't know where170601:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.600



they where they belong. They don't, they don't. They thought170701:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.039



they were going to find their tribe and their people,170801:20:51.079 --> 01:20:53.840



but then they ended up isolated they have they have170901:20:53.880 --> 01:20:55.880



to find out that they can't trust anybody, They don't171001:20:55.880 --> 01:20:57.800



feel like they could talk to anybody. All of this171101:20:57.880 --> 01:20:59.800



kids bottled up and eventually they just feel like the171201:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.279



whole worlds against them. And then what's their solution. Fuck it,171301:21:03.640 --> 01:21:05.600



I'm going to kill these people or in the case171401:21:05.640 --> 01:21:08.439



of the Minneapoli shoot or what I thought, is he171501:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.119



specifically or sheet not trying to miss general.171601:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.000



But it's too complicated again because I went back and forth,171701:21:14.039 --> 01:21:16.319



and so I'm just like he exactly, and you don't person,171801:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.439



don't get the benefit of me saying you're pronoun you171901:21:18.479 --> 01:21:20.640



want when you want kids. By the way, too, that's172001:21:20.680 --> 01:21:21.720



just the other thing I don't care.172101:21:22.000 --> 01:21:25.159



I understood, but that person targeted children specifically because I172201:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.960



this is me theorizing'm a psychologists, but didn't want them172301:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.720



to make the decision that he was forced to, Like172401:21:32.960 --> 01:21:34.920



he chose to become translated. He's probably trying to save172501:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.239



them from that. So I know I've been reading into this,172601:21:37.279 --> 01:21:39.520



but when I read through everything, it really was like,172701:21:39.640 --> 01:21:41.920



this is a person who's out of place, didn't feel172801:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.159



they belonged, patting over to turn and thought they were172901:21:45.159 --> 01:21:47.279



doing something good by saving the children by doing that,173001:21:47.319 --> 01:21:49.319



and yeah, that that is I mean, but there's so173101:21:49.399 --> 01:21:49.640



much of.173201:21:49.640 --> 01:21:53.079



His stuff that talked about like how the true heroes173301:21:53.079 --> 01:21:54.600



were the ones that killed as many as possible and173401:21:54.600 --> 01:21:56.239



obviously kids are easy to kill it and like and173501:21:56.279 --> 01:21:58.479



he was, you know, like it, Like I also think173601:21:58.479 --> 01:21:59.000



that we don't.173701:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.760



I think there's I think there's a lot of cope too,173801:22:01.800 --> 01:22:03.760



though I think that was a lot of that was173901:22:03.880 --> 01:22:07.640



him or her or whatever trying to justify what they174001:22:07.680 --> 01:22:08.319



wanted to do.174101:22:09.000 --> 01:22:10.680



Yeah, And I think I also just think there's an174201:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.920



explanation of evil a lot of times too. I mean174301:22:12.960 --> 01:22:15.199



I think that people like some people are just that174401:22:15.800 --> 01:22:19.079



there's evil, like there's no there's no way you can174501:22:19.319 --> 01:22:21.880



like there is no way to explain away killing kids.174601:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.720



Will Oh no no no, that's not what I'm trying174701:22:23.760 --> 01:22:23.880



to do.174801:22:24.000 --> 01:22:25.640



No no, no, no, I know you're not. I'm just saying174901:22:25.960 --> 01:22:26.680



what I don't want to.175001:22:26.760 --> 01:22:28.520



Get to the root of it basically, right, I'm trying175101:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.600



to find out, like what is causing this, Like can't175201:22:30.640 --> 01:22:31.920



can't we got to figure that out.175301:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.640



Right, But when people go we need better mental health care,175401:22:34.760 --> 01:22:38.479



I go, maybe, but that's not what prevented this from175501:22:38.520 --> 01:22:41.720



being stopped. True, this guy with this person just evil175601:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.800



and they were very influenced by all of the media175701:22:44.840 --> 01:22:48.279



talking about mass shooters all the time. And and the175801:22:48.319 --> 01:22:50.640



reason I know that is because he told us, you175901:22:50.680 --> 01:22:52.600



know what I mean, he literally like wrote their names176001:22:52.640 --> 01:22:56.760



on it. And then you see like the Charlie Cooks176101:22:56.840 --> 01:23:00.439



Kirk's Assassin Rights does the same thing. He writes on176201:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.640



the bullets rights on the magazines, and you go, that's176301:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.720



another version of like that was influenced by that last176401:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.199



guy just a few weeks ago that the he the176501:23:09.239 --> 01:23:11.760



Trenick kirkis hasen made this up in a week. We176601:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.439



literally decided within a week to do this.176701:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.039



We are a culture that normalized violence. I had this176801:23:16.079 --> 01:23:19.359



discussion with the guest previously, literally and it's like it's176901:23:19.439 --> 01:23:22.119



become normalized. And when you're looking at social media, it's177001:23:22.119 --> 01:23:24.920



like entertainment for people. It is. They no longer look177101:23:24.960 --> 01:23:28.000



at it and feel appalled by it. They're just like, oh,177201:23:28.319 --> 01:23:29.880



you know, he should have done this to the guy,177301:23:30.119 --> 01:23:31.720



or maybe he should have pulled the trigger, or they're177401:23:31.760 --> 01:23:34.000



just they're just cheering on, you know, cheering it on177501:23:34.479 --> 01:23:37.159



getting blown up by you know, a rocket or whatever177601:23:37.199 --> 01:23:39.800



it is. I'm just and I will say, you know177701:23:39.800 --> 01:23:40.159



what I'm saying.177801:23:40.239 --> 01:23:41.960



Yeah, I will say Democrats did a pretty good job177901:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.479



with the Charlie Kirk reaction, like elected Democrats and people178001:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.039



in power and stuff, like most of them said all178101:23:46.039 --> 01:23:48.840



the right things, including some celebrities that I mean, like,178201:23:49.439 --> 01:23:50.720



I don't know if you heard, like the Jamie Lair178301:23:50.800 --> 01:23:53.279



Curtis thing. She was like in teams on a podcast178401:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.560



talking about recently. Yeah, like right in the aftermath of it,178501:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.840



and it was, you know, I know she's like me,178601:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.479



She's like, I know, she's super liberal. I know she178701:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.600



disagrees with Truy kirkr and everything, but she was just178801:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.319



heartbroken by the fact that this guy was murdered for178901:24:07.640 --> 01:24:10.479



talking and he's got kids and a wife and like179001:24:10.960 --> 01:24:15.000



so dehumanizing when we cheer on violence. And I think179101:24:15.079 --> 01:24:19.159



so in one way that reaction was like somewhat a179201:24:19.199 --> 01:24:23.760



relief compared to like Luigi Mangoni situation, where there are179301:24:23.800 --> 01:24:26.640



literally people still like like selling T shirts and they're179401:24:26.680 --> 01:24:30.159



like again, like idolizing this guy. And you saw it179501:24:30.199 --> 01:24:31.760



happen with the guy that went into the office. He179601:24:31.760 --> 01:24:33.680



thought it was the NFL office he's on the wrong floor.179701:24:33.680 --> 01:24:35.880



He ends up killing an executive at Black Rock, and179801:24:35.920 --> 01:24:39.279



people are like, good right, because you don't like the179901:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.399



company she works for. You think that this mother deserved180001:24:42.439 --> 01:24:46.359



to be murdered, and like that inhumane thing is like,180101:24:46.439 --> 01:24:47.840



I don't know that we can come back from that.180201:24:47.920 --> 01:24:52.359



And I thought maybe it, you know, I thought it180301:24:52.439 --> 01:24:54.119



might be able to get dialed back with the Charlie180401:24:54.159 --> 01:24:57.800



Kirk stuff. And it's been so disheartening to see Republicans180501:24:57.800 --> 01:24:59.560



take advantage of it. Like I said, I think that180601:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.680



whole oral service is it's a sham for everything. I180701:25:03.680 --> 01:25:05.439



don't think it was honoring to his wife. I don't180801:25:05.439 --> 01:25:07.000



think it was honoring to him. I don't think it was.180901:25:07.039 --> 01:25:10.319



I think it was about Donald Trump and Republicans, and181001:25:10.720 --> 01:25:12.720



it's I've seen all sorts of Facebook stuff where people181101:25:12.720 --> 01:25:14.640



are like, this is what we do and this is181201:25:14.640 --> 01:25:16.640



what black people do. Is black lives matter? I mean,181301:25:16.840 --> 01:25:20.000



I love you know, and I'm like, man, like you're181401:25:20.079 --> 01:25:22.399



using it as like a bragadocious way. It's not honored.181501:25:22.439 --> 01:25:26.159



Like I think Charlie Kirk would be appalled by Donald181601:25:26.199 --> 01:25:28.960



Trump saying I like to hate my enemies instead, like181701:25:28.960 --> 01:25:33.039



I said, like to his widow like, I mean, well,181801:25:34.319 --> 01:25:36.239



but he was not, it's not and and and then181901:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.800



seeing Republicans defend it as a joke, I just I laughed.182001:25:38.840 --> 01:25:40.119



So I love it when he's on. I love that182101:25:40.159 --> 01:25:43.279



he's honest, and I'm like that, yes, it's honest, but182201:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.920



like it's so wildly inappropriate in the fact that we182301:25:46.960 --> 01:25:51.720



don't have the humanity to even see. I hope she's182401:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.880



the one hope I have, Like she could be the182501:25:53.880 --> 01:25:55.760



person that comes out and been like, how dare you.182601:25:56.680 --> 01:25:58.520



I don't think she will, And I don't think.182701:25:58.399 --> 01:26:00.680



It's I think she feels a pressure. I don't.182801:26:00.720 --> 01:26:02.680



Yeah, I don't think it's her responsibility. I think the182901:26:02.720 --> 01:26:05.079



people that are anyone pressuring her to do anything right183001:26:05.119 --> 01:26:07.960



now is wrong. In my opinion, I would never pressure183101:26:08.000 --> 01:26:08.720



her to do anything.183201:26:08.760 --> 01:26:10.720



Well, that's what I think happened. Like I think I183301:26:10.760 --> 01:26:13.039



think Republican Party, or at least a party of Trump,183401:26:13.159 --> 01:26:15.640



saw this as an opportunity, absolutely, and they put the183501:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.439



pressure on her to turn this into what it was.183601:26:17.479 --> 01:26:19.000



I don't think this is what she really wanted.183701:26:19.159 --> 01:26:22.640



No, and I totally agree, But she could be the183801:26:22.680 --> 01:26:24.840



person that comes out and says, hey, I'm the person183901:26:24.920 --> 01:26:26.920



that was really affected by this, And what I don't184001:26:26.960 --> 01:26:30.159



want is republic likel call out Republicans that are taking184101:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.039



advantage of it. Call out Republicans for saying Charlie Kirk184201:26:33.079 --> 01:26:37.159



would have been furious at the idea of Trump's SCC184301:26:37.359 --> 01:26:40.439



chair threatening to take away people's broadcast license because they184401:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.600



said something bad about either even Charlie or Donald Trump,184501:26:43.680 --> 01:26:47.000



like Charlie did not like I disagreed with him a184601:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.399



lot of stuff. I absolutely believe that he believed in184701:26:50.640 --> 01:26:52.399



free speech in a way that he did not want184801:26:52.439 --> 01:26:55.359



to silence his critics. I've never seen any evidence that184901:26:55.399 --> 01:26:57.520



he wanted to do that, and I would love to185001:26:57.520 --> 01:26:59.840



see her step up and do that. I don't expect185101:26:59.840 --> 01:27:05.119



her too if she doesn't, because she's the victim here.185201:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.880



But that's kind of my last Like or Spencer Cox,185301:27:09.199 --> 01:27:12.960



the governor of Utah, said all the right things in185401:27:13.319 --> 01:27:15.920



the wake of it, and he was really like proof185501:27:16.000 --> 01:27:19.079



like what a leader should be. But guess who he185601:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.039



got a call from right after he said those remarks185701:27:21.039 --> 01:27:23.039



that were like, this is an attack on free speech,185801:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.119



and this is an attack on all of us. Donald185901:27:25.119 --> 01:27:26.920



Trump calls him and says, you know, they want to186001:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.199



kill us right, Like, Trump's furious that Spencer, like he186101:27:30.199 --> 01:27:31.880



didn't get up there and use it as an opportunity186201:27:31.920 --> 01:27:36.319



to bash the left. And and while he called out186301:27:36.479 --> 01:27:38.720



the stuff, he laid out the facts and he said186401:27:38.720 --> 01:27:41.319



the left isn't he talked about the embrace of violence186501:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.520



and stuff, And unfortunately, I feel like people like him186601:27:44.560 --> 01:27:46.640



have no future in this party. I hope I'm wrong186701:27:46.640 --> 01:27:49.760



about that. I want to be optimistic, but it's very186801:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.920



hard to look at what will happen in twenty twenty186901:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.720



eight and and see there's a silver lining somewhere. And187001:27:55.720 --> 01:27:57.279



I also don't think Democrats are going to have it187101:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.079



together either. I think it's like, no, they're not going187201:27:59.119 --> 01:28:00.960



to have to go, and so I don't. I just187301:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.720



don't have a lot of hope that we will. It's187401:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.239



going to take leaders that actually stand up and say, like,187501:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.479



this is the right thing to do, even if it187601:28:08.520 --> 01:28:11.199



cost me power, even if it cost me popularity.187701:28:11.720 --> 01:28:13.840



Okay, but we're being hopeful because we you and I187801:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.159



both said that in different ways, and I think you187901:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.760



and I both agree there. But unfortunately we know no188001:28:20.800 --> 01:28:26.680



one's going to want to give up the power for example, right, Yeah,188101:28:26.880 --> 01:28:28.000



I'm with you.188201:28:28.479 --> 01:28:30.720



And maybe someone will and maybe we will demand that188301:28:30.760 --> 01:28:32.319



at some point. Maybe I want to do something.188401:28:32.880 --> 01:28:37.279



Yeah, because I think on this issue, you're correct. I188501:28:37.279 --> 01:28:40.039



think we both are in a grants, we just came188601:28:40.079 --> 01:28:42.640



at it from different angles, but I'm with you on it.188701:28:43.000 --> 01:28:44.840



I think you're correct. But what I want to do,188801:28:44.880 --> 01:28:46.560



I want to circle back a bit because it's kind188901:28:46.560 --> 01:28:50.800



of come up here and there through our discussion. Okay,189001:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.479



when we're talking about school shootings, we're talking about shootings189101:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.720



in general. I got to go to the guns, and189201:28:55.760 --> 01:28:56.880



it kind of came up a little bit in the189301:28:56.880 --> 01:29:00.000



beginning of our conversation, but we didn't really grab onto it.189401:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.920



So I'm going to that's do it, because, like you said,189501:29:02.920 --> 01:29:06.039



in California, California, no matter where you go, you can't189601:29:06.079 --> 01:29:08.600



just walk into a Walmart and just buy a gun. Correct.189701:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.359



So the whole bullshit about everybody's saying we need common189801:29:11.479 --> 01:29:15.760



sense gun laws, it's it's my favorite term. Oh good,189901:29:15.960 --> 01:29:21.600



But do we not already have the process? Yeah, thoughts,190001:29:21.840 --> 01:29:22.239



I'm sure.190101:29:22.760 --> 01:29:26.079



Well, Okay, the simplest version of the gun control debate190201:29:26.079 --> 01:29:27.880



that I have with almost everyone that brings this up190301:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.960



to me is, first of all, we have a lot190401:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.000



of common sense laws that we don't enforce right now. So,190501:29:33.079 --> 01:29:35.600



for example, you lie on a background check, you're fellon.190601:29:35.640 --> 01:29:37.159



You're not supposed to have a gun. You lie on190701:29:37.199 --> 01:29:39.199



the background check, we have a literally a form with190801:29:39.239 --> 01:29:41.560



your signature on it that says you're allowed to buy190901:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.239



a gun, and that you knew you weren't supposed to do.191001:29:44.239 --> 01:29:47.279



You know how often we prosecute that, like zero point191101:29:47.399 --> 01:29:49.800



two percent of the time. I'm going to mess up191201:29:49.800 --> 01:29:51.319



the numbers here. It was something like there was one191301:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.640



year where there were I want to say there were191401:29:54.640 --> 01:29:56.920



like one hundred. It might not have been one year,191501:29:57.000 --> 01:29:58.119



might have been a series of years. There was like191601:29:58.159 --> 01:30:00.439



one hundred thousand forms that they knew that like felons191701:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.760



had tried to like buy guns or whatever. They investigated191801:30:03.840 --> 01:30:09.000



like twelve hundred of them and prosecuted like two of them.191901:30:09.239 --> 01:30:13.239



Hunter Biden got railroaded with his thing because they really192001:30:13.279 --> 01:30:15.640



they never prosecute people for lying on that gun for him,192101:30:15.640 --> 01:30:19.079



And so that's where I'm like, that's selective prosecution when192201:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.119



you say, oh, we're gonna apply this gun law that192301:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.800



we don't apply to anyone else straw purchases or another192401:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.000



one where if like if if I buy a gun,192501:30:27.640 --> 01:30:29.119



because I know I'm allowed to buy a gun and192601:30:29.119 --> 01:30:31.079



I felt the background check, but really I'm just buying it.192701:30:31.119 --> 01:30:32.560



And then you're gonna give me the money and you're192801:30:32.600 --> 01:30:34.119



not allowed to have a gun, and I'm just passing192901:30:34.159 --> 01:30:36.439



it along to you. That's a straw purchase. Do you193001:30:36.439 --> 01:30:39.319



know how often we prosecute that? Almost never, because do193101:30:39.319 --> 01:30:40.560



you know who most of the people that do straw193201:30:40.560 --> 01:30:44.479



purchases are. It's like girlfriends and moms and relatives of193301:30:44.560 --> 01:30:48.039



gang bangers, like and so, we don't want to prosecute193401:30:48.079 --> 01:30:51.760



moms and girlfriends, right and so. And the only times193501:30:51.760 --> 01:30:54.319



we've done is like the San Bernardino shooting, that was193601:30:54.399 --> 01:30:56.520



one where there was a straw purchase, and like these193701:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.920



were obviously like not even Americans weren't allowed to have guns.193801:31:00.159 --> 01:31:01.399



He kind of knew they were going to do it193901:31:01.399 --> 01:31:04.279



for a terrorist attack. That's the last prosecution I've heard194001:31:04.319 --> 01:31:06.359



of of a straw purchase. And we'll also get one194101:31:06.359 --> 01:31:08.880



for the New York one. It was his boss's straw purchase.194201:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.399



But they did go after the parent I forgot, which194301:31:11.800 --> 01:31:15.920



yes they did. Yeah, And that is a situation where again,194401:31:16.720 --> 01:31:18.560



you know what I'm talking about. But that's a novel law,194501:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.800



that's actually a new that's a fairly new law.194601:31:21.359 --> 01:31:23.119



Red flag laws. We have red flag laws.194701:31:23.199 --> 01:31:25.560



They don't. They've not prevented a single shooting that we194801:31:25.760 --> 01:31:27.520



know of. Now, I know that's a little hard to disprove,194901:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.039



but like Minnesota has red flag laws, it didn't help195001:31:30.079 --> 01:31:32.560



in this case because it still requires someone to go195101:31:32.640 --> 01:31:35.560



to law enforcement. Beyond that, the church shooting that happened195201:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.680



in Texas was a.195301:31:37.720 --> 01:31:39.680



Navy a guy.195401:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.279



That guy kicked out of the Navy for beating his195501:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.359



wife and was supposed to not be on the registry195601:31:45.399 --> 01:31:47.279



and the Navy just somehow messed up the paperwork and195701:31:47.319 --> 01:31:50.399



never put him in the NIXT system. So yeah, he195801:31:50.520 --> 01:31:52.279



wouldn't have passed the background check if the Navy did195901:31:52.279 --> 01:31:54.359



their job right. So again government ineptitude.196001:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.159



But so so there's there's okay, but there's there's gun196101:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.199



laws in place. You can't just walk into purchase. You know,196201:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.359



you just said that. You just said that, and you're right,196301:32:02.800 --> 01:32:09.159



but they don't investigate the the times where people circumvent willingly.196401:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.600



But what also is not being spoken of, And I196501:32:11.680 --> 01:32:16.720



actually went over this with a XDE agent that I196601:32:16.840 --> 01:32:20.800



had here and we talked. No one's talking about the196701:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.640



amount of black market guns that are sold but purchased196801:32:24.800 --> 01:32:30.039



legally kind of from actual gun shops by cartels doing196901:32:30.039 --> 01:32:34.199



what you said earlier, Mom's girlfriends, brothers, whoever, going purchasing197001:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.720



these weapons going back to the cartels and then flood197101:32:37.720 --> 01:32:40.920



in the streets in the black market. So even even197201:32:41.039 --> 01:32:44.039



though we have these alls to control people from illegally197301:32:44.039 --> 01:32:49.680



buying them from legal gun dealers, we're not stopping the197401:32:49.920 --> 01:32:53.880



cartels from circumvanced system by having the brother, cousin, aunt,197501:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.920



uncle that does not have a record from being influenced197601:32:56.920 --> 01:32:59.640



and forced to buy these weapons and pumping them back197701:32:59.680 --> 01:33:00.600



into the streets.197801:33:00.720 --> 01:33:02.680



Well, and most of them are stolen too. I mean197901:33:02.680 --> 01:33:04.279



that's the other thing. It's like ninety percent of gun198001:33:04.359 --> 01:33:06.640



jews and crimes are stolen. So it's like, well, there's198101:33:06.640 --> 01:33:09.920



a problem there. I think the solution that is so198201:33:10.079 --> 01:33:12.319



obvious and I don't understand why it's not happening, is198301:33:12.359 --> 01:33:19.319



like you just take violent crime very very seriously. If198401:33:19.319 --> 01:33:21.399



someone gets arrested with a gun that's not supposed to198501:33:21.479 --> 01:33:24.600



have a gun. I am not normally for mandatory minimums,198601:33:25.000 --> 01:33:26.760



but I think that's one where I am. I'm like,198701:33:27.159 --> 01:33:28.960



if we've said you're not allowed to have a gun198801:33:29.000 --> 01:33:31.039



and you have one, like specifically you're a felon that's198901:33:31.079 --> 01:33:32.960



not supposed to have a gun, right and you have one,199001:33:33.840 --> 01:33:37.560



You're going to jail period, Like no, and you can't199101:33:37.560 --> 01:33:39.960



plee it down, you can't do anything. It's like three years,199201:33:40.000 --> 01:33:42.760



five whatever it is. We pick the You will definitely199301:33:42.800 --> 01:33:44.680



go to jail if you get caught, if you use199401:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.920



it in a violent crime, if you're robbing a liquor store,199501:33:47.119 --> 01:33:49.039



if you threaten your wife with it, if you whatever.199601:33:49.079 --> 01:33:53.119



Like we don't take domestic abuse seriously, and most violence escalates.199701:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.119



Most people don't just snap and murder someone. They threaten199801:33:56.159 --> 01:33:58.960



someone and then they build it actually physically hurt someone,199901:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.840



and we just keep giving it a pass. And it200001:34:02.880 --> 01:34:04.520



doesn't help that on the political side, we give it200101:34:04.560 --> 01:34:06.439



a pass when it's on our side or the left200201:34:06.479 --> 01:34:10.199



doesn't want to. Like the truth is black people like200301:34:10.439 --> 01:34:13.119



talk about DC because Trump did the whole National Guard stuff.200401:34:13.359 --> 01:34:15.399



We look at a crime in DC, it's all in200501:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.880



two wards. They know that it's about five hundred people.200601:34:18.880 --> 01:34:20.760



They know the names of that cause most of the200701:34:20.800 --> 01:34:24.279



crimes in the city. People get arrested over and over200801:34:24.279 --> 01:34:25.840



and over and again. You've got a DA that's not200901:34:25.840 --> 01:34:27.680



willing to prosecute because they're worried it looks like I201001:34:27.680 --> 01:34:30.399



don't care about black people. Well, gets who the victims are.201101:34:30.439 --> 01:34:33.199



They're also black people. So ninety six percent of the201201:34:33.279 --> 01:34:38.640



victims of violent gun violence, specifically in DC, ninety six201301:34:38.680 --> 01:34:41.479



percent of them are black. You are not protecting or201401:34:41.560 --> 01:34:44.840



caring about black people if you don't arrest the people201501:34:45.039 --> 01:34:48.279



that are shooting black people. They happen to also be black.201601:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.079



But like every black resident of DC that's not a201701:34:52.119 --> 01:34:55.439



criminal would love for the people that are murdering their201801:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.760



children to be in jail. And that's the problem is201901:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.039



we keep playing this game of life. Well, we've got202001:35:01.079 --> 01:35:03.000



to defund the police or the left is saying like, oh,202101:35:03.079 --> 01:35:05.960



well you can't, we can't have desperate outcomes. Well, look,202201:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.800



I don't know all the sociological reasons that that some202301:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.600



young black men choose crime more than other races, but202401:35:14.600 --> 01:35:18.159



they're also like disproportionately the victims of those crimes, like202501:35:18.600 --> 01:35:21.560



the if you are fifteen to thirty years old and202601:35:21.600 --> 01:35:24.119



you're a black male in the United States or sorry,202701:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.560



in DC specifically, you have the same chance of dying202801:35:28.119 --> 01:35:32.479



that our soldiers did in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is202901:35:32.520 --> 01:35:35.960



the percentages that we're playing with. You're literally asking these203001:35:35.960 --> 01:35:38.239



people to grow up in war zones and you're and203101:35:38.399 --> 01:35:41.319



the only the only we don't have some enemy that203201:35:41.319 --> 01:35:42.039



we're trying to fight.203301:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.560



You could lock those people up the second you catch.203401:35:44.359 --> 01:35:47.039



Them with a gun. We do not take violence. You203501:35:47.079 --> 01:35:48.279



said we're a violent country.203601:35:48.319 --> 01:35:48.640



We are.203701:35:48.680 --> 01:35:50.520



We're gonna be more violent than every country we've even203801:35:50.520 --> 01:35:52.399



wore one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago. But203901:35:53.439 --> 01:35:56.279



we don't take violent crime seriously until it escalates to murder,204001:35:56.720 --> 01:36:00.239



and even then we excuse it sometimes. And so to me,204101:36:00.920 --> 01:36:03.760



all you would have to do is like make criminals204201:36:03.840 --> 01:36:06.319



understand that if they do something illegal and they have204301:36:06.359 --> 01:36:09.359



a gun illegally, they are definitely going to jail. Increase204401:36:09.399 --> 01:36:11.520



the chance of it happening. You don't have to increase204501:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.479



the sentences. The sentences could even be lower. But if204601:36:14.520 --> 01:36:17.279



you increase the chance, like they know if they get caught,204701:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.119



they're going to jail and they're not going to be204801:36:19.159 --> 01:36:22.439



this revolving door, I think you will see a reduce,204901:36:23.560 --> 01:36:25.479



a reduction in gun violence. And I also think you205001:36:25.479 --> 01:36:26.960



have to do that with school shooters too. I think205101:36:27.000 --> 01:36:29.680



you have to increase the chances that they're going to205201:36:29.760 --> 01:36:32.239



get shot before they get a chance to kill a205301:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.800



bunch of people. And going back to the manifesto of205401:36:34.800 --> 01:36:38.319



the Minnesota shooter, he was calling the guy in Indianapolis205501:36:38.359 --> 01:36:40.960



basically a punk because and several other ones that went205601:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.479



into a place that got shot by a concealed carry holder,205701:36:43.880 --> 01:36:47.159



and he's basically saying like they're losers. Well, I mean,205801:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.000



that's a great way to influence people to not do it.205901:36:49.119 --> 01:36:50.600



You might get shot by someone.206001:36:51.760 --> 01:36:58.800



So oversimplified obviously, but no, that's over sumplification because if206101:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.880



first place, I would give it if people, if people206201:37:01.880 --> 01:37:05.800



are not getting punished appropriately for the misdeeds, then of206301:37:05.800 --> 01:37:07.399



course there's never gonna be a there's never gonna be206401:37:07.399 --> 01:37:12.000



a correction of the action. Right now, as far as206501:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.520



gun violence goes, now we're talking about gun violence, it's206601:37:15.560 --> 01:37:18.520



it's disproportionate in terms of how it's being presented to206701:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.479



everybody because they just look at the problem being the gun.206801:37:22.199 --> 01:37:24.560



Right But I could put the gun on my desk,206901:37:24.680 --> 01:37:26.159



never look at it, and it's not going to do anything,207001:37:26.199 --> 01:37:28.920



it will never hurt you. I'm just saying, and I207101:37:28.960 --> 01:37:31.000



know people think that's an asshole way of saying it,207201:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.319



but it's true. The the thing that you were talking207301:37:34.319 --> 01:37:38.119



about earlier that the people in DC. It's kind of207401:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.159



the point that a cop doesn't want to do anything,207501:37:40.319 --> 01:37:42.520



or a DA or whatever because they don't want to207601:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.159



be the d being racist. Correct.207701:37:45.319 --> 01:37:46.600



And by the way, it's not even the DA in207801:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.439



d C. It's the US Attorney's Office, so d yeah,207901:37:50.439 --> 01:37:53.079



the president has a direct line to tell that person208001:37:53.119 --> 01:37:54.520



what to do and to not do it.208101:37:54.520 --> 01:37:57.079



But even just using a DA's example in other cities208201:37:57.079 --> 01:38:01.079



like talking about Chicago, Oakland, wherever, but you're right, yeah,208301:38:01.079 --> 01:38:04.159



in DC, it's actually the president. It's like right there,208401:38:04.199 --> 01:38:07.279



like they have they have control. Uh So. The the208501:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.600



problem though is with the with people like you're talking208601:38:09.600 --> 01:38:11.520



about the black community, but it could be anything. It208701:38:11.560 --> 01:38:13.279



could be the Hispanic community, it could be the Chinese,208801:38:13.319 --> 01:38:15.039



it could be the mom community which has a huge208901:38:15.039 --> 01:38:19.039



gang problem as well. You get born into this area209001:38:19.079 --> 01:38:21.319



and it's hard for to get out, Like they're influenced209101:38:21.359 --> 01:38:23.960



by opportunity that they don't have. They see fast money,209201:38:24.000 --> 01:38:26.239



which looks like fast money ayway, and then what you209301:38:26.239 --> 01:38:30.239



were saying earlier about the media, it's like rap music, videos,209401:38:30.279 --> 01:38:35.319



everything else glorifying this behavior. You've got people like basketball209501:38:35.319 --> 01:38:39.000



players glorifying this showing them what you know, they're giant209601:38:39.079 --> 01:38:41.439



chains and they're and whatever it is they have that209701:38:41.479 --> 01:38:42.319



they're just glorifying.209801:38:42.439 --> 01:38:44.520



Like John Moran is a great example of like why209901:38:44.760 --> 01:38:47.319



you are not like, you're not inner city, you didn't210001:38:47.319 --> 01:38:50.159



grow up poor like right like, and yet you're like210101:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.600



you're like buying into that gun gangster culture when you're210201:38:53.640 --> 01:38:54.840



like you're a million I.210301:38:54.800 --> 01:38:59.239



Mean, players ended up getting getting a residor charge for having,210401:38:59.319 --> 01:39:01.399



you know, carry a gun or even murdering people in210501:39:01.439 --> 01:39:04.479



a club, and it's crazy that they're buying into. So210601:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.279



it's something that we have changed. It's a cultural change210701:39:07.279 --> 01:39:07.960



that has to happen.210801:39:08.760 --> 01:39:10.439



And I think you've got to look at every single210901:39:10.479 --> 01:39:14.439



one of those kind of crimes differently, because suicides are211001:39:14.479 --> 01:39:17.119



two thirds of gun deaths, I know, and the same211101:39:17.239 --> 01:39:20.720



thing that works for solving gang violence isn't going to211201:39:20.760 --> 01:39:23.159



solve suicides, isn't going to solve mass shootings, isn't going211301:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.239



to solve domestic violence. And you have to look at211401:39:25.239 --> 01:39:28.000



all of them as individual Like we just look at211501:39:28.000 --> 01:39:31.039



the big number and go, it's guns because that's the211601:39:31.079 --> 01:39:32.039



only common denominator.211701:39:32.079 --> 01:39:33.319



And what you said is quick because like a lot211801:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.680



of people don't even realize that Gundest's a leading cause211901:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.520



is actually suicides. People don't even realize that.212001:39:38.840 --> 01:39:40.680



Yeah, And that's what I don't like about a lot212101:39:40.720 --> 01:39:45.920



of the statistics on guns is that they're wildly misinforming people.212201:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.319



It's not that they're lies, it's that they're Like, if212301:39:48.319 --> 01:39:50.840



you don't mention that two thirds of gun deaths are suicides,212401:39:51.079 --> 01:39:53.239



you're not really wanting to tackle the problem. You just212501:39:53.279 --> 01:39:55.920



don't like guns, because I just think you tackle those212601:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.359



two totally different ways. I think something like a three212701:39:58.439 --> 01:40:02.119



day waiting period my cause suicides to go down. Am212801:40:02.159 --> 01:40:03.520



I not? I don't know. And I also don't think212901:40:03.560 --> 01:40:05.840



that's an infringement on anyone's Second Amendment rights as long213001:40:05.880 --> 01:40:08.159



as you had a carve out for if someone was213101:40:08.239 --> 01:40:10.800



truly scared of, like in a domestic violent situation or213201:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.800



something like that, you could have exceptions to that. I213301:40:13.840 --> 01:40:15.600



would think of that sort of like a red flag thing.213401:40:15.680 --> 01:40:19.159



But it's like you've got different solutions for different problems right, right,213501:40:19.239 --> 01:40:24.039



But most people aren't having honest conversations.213601:40:21.079 --> 01:40:25.000



About a gang violence thing with guns. So in your opinion,213701:40:26.199 --> 01:40:28.359



there's no right or wrong because none of us are qualified.213801:40:28.399 --> 01:40:30.399



I don't think maybe you are. I don't know. I'm213901:40:30.399 --> 01:40:33.159



not qualified, but I mean, I don't know if I214001:40:33.159 --> 01:40:36.359



am either. We'll say, what is a solution of changing214101:40:36.399 --> 01:40:39.800



the culture, you know, to where that that is no214201:40:39.840 --> 01:40:43.760



longer glorified? Like obviously you know it's helping to create214301:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.000



a pathway to opportunities to where they don't feel they214401:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.359



have turned to that yep, But how well I think214501:40:49.359 --> 01:40:50.840



we how do we break that cycle?214601:40:51.000 --> 01:40:52.960



I think the punishment part is an important part of214701:40:52.960 --> 01:40:54.920



it because you have to and like I said at214801:40:55.960 --> 01:40:57.840



there are varying degrees of that. If you catch a214901:40:57.840 --> 01:41:00.840



fifteen year old with a gun, I'm not saying we215001:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.960



throw them in jail, even necessarily, like, but like, there215101:41:03.960 --> 01:41:08.039



needs to be an intervention of some sort there. And215201:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.760



the other biggest problem is, I mean, some of the215301:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.760



that Malcolm Gladwell article I mentioned was I think it215401:41:13.800 --> 01:41:16.760



was in the New Yorker. It's from a long time ago,215501:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.439



but it was talking about the contagion of school shootings.215601:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.520



And what they found is like when they could discover215701:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.039



that someone was like being you know, like I said,215801:41:26.199 --> 01:41:28.399



we see red flags all the time where we go,215901:41:28.479 --> 01:41:31.319



Like I mean, I've known people around like I will216001:41:31.319 --> 01:41:33.960



not be surprised if I find out at some point,216101:41:34.079 --> 01:41:36.000



like if I turn on the news and they've murdered someone,216201:41:36.239 --> 01:41:38.359



like I just I think they give me the creeps216301:41:38.439 --> 01:41:41.199



or whatever it might be, or those situations they're drawing216401:41:41.199 --> 01:41:43.920



stuff or whatever. Like that's the point to intervene and216501:41:44.000 --> 01:41:45.600



not to like scare them, just to be like, hey,216601:41:45.680 --> 01:41:51.279



like I'm seeing this behavior. I'm seeing it's you know,216701:41:51.319 --> 01:41:53.520



are you upset about something like what? Like that is216801:41:53.560 --> 01:41:55.520



when you have to intervene. And unfortunately there's not a216901:41:55.520 --> 01:41:57.199



sexy law that can do that.217001:41:57.520 --> 01:41:57.760



Right.217101:41:58.039 --> 01:42:00.960



That is like case by case that it does take217201:42:01.039 --> 01:42:04.399



like people talking about it, it takes people taking the217301:42:04.600 --> 01:42:07.439



escalation to violence seriously. A lot of the more disturbed217401:42:07.479 --> 01:42:10.640



school shooters did stuff like shot animals before, or shot217501:42:10.720 --> 01:42:14.239



pellet guns at people, or did some sort of violent217601:42:14.279 --> 01:42:16.319



activity before it rose to the level of like someone217701:42:16.359 --> 01:42:20.119



actually getting hurt. Some of the shooters have done things217801:42:20.159 --> 01:42:23.239



like discharged a weapon or like brandished a weapon like217901:42:23.359 --> 01:42:25.159



those are things where like, no, we got to take218001:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.279



that more seriously. Like I'm a gun owner. I carry218101:42:27.279 --> 01:42:30.680



a gun, but like, I do not like gun owners218201:42:30.680 --> 01:42:32.399



being irresponsible because.218301:42:32.720 --> 01:42:35.079



Where's the intervention though, Is it just law enforcement or218401:42:36.239 --> 01:42:36.960



out of the parents?218501:42:37.239 --> 01:42:39.479



I think, well, I think parents are a much bigger218601:42:39.560 --> 01:42:41.439



part of conversation than we ever talked about. But again,218701:42:41.479 --> 01:42:46.079



the left doesn't like to believe that you need two parents.218801:42:46.119 --> 01:42:47.920



I even just read an article yesterday trying to sort218901:42:47.960 --> 01:42:51.239



of debunk that like two parent households are better because219001:42:51.239 --> 01:42:52.760



they were like, well, but if you look at the219101:42:53.319 --> 01:42:54.920



first of all, they lied about some of the statistics.219201:42:54.960 --> 01:42:57.279



They were claiming half of black children are in two219301:42:57.319 --> 01:43:00.000



parent households, it's forty two percent. I'm not saying you're219401:42:59.760 --> 01:43:02.760



c but I'm it's a little different. And they're like, well,219501:43:02.800 --> 01:43:06.880



even when you compare for that, they have worse outcomes219601:43:06.960 --> 01:43:09.319



than white kids in two parent households. And I go, Okay,219701:43:09.399 --> 01:43:12.520



that could be true, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't219801:43:12.600 --> 01:43:15.159



encourage two parent households. Like it's like, all the data219901:43:15.239 --> 01:43:17.720



shows that kids are much better off in two parent households,220001:43:18.119 --> 01:43:21.960



And that is not to say that if you are divorced,220101:43:22.359 --> 01:43:25.760



you are a bad person, or you know, especially you're220201:43:25.800 --> 01:43:28.560



an abusive relationship, or their abusing, Like there are all220301:43:28.600 --> 01:43:31.399



sorts of reasons, but it's just that you are giving220401:43:31.439 --> 01:43:34.199



your kid a disadvantage. Like that's just part of it. Now,220501:43:34.439 --> 01:43:37.960



kids are resilient, and there's all I know so many220601:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.399



people that had terrible childhoods and have turned out to220701:43:41.399 --> 01:43:44.039



be wonderful people. They're not murdering, they're not violent, they're220801:43:44.079 --> 01:43:46.359



not any of those things. And but it's because other220901:43:46.399 --> 01:43:49.439



people stepped up. The government can't do that. The government221001:43:49.439 --> 01:43:51.920



cannot love your kid. The government cannot love them right.221101:43:52.680 --> 01:43:56.680



The government cannot even really I don't think the government221201:43:56.720 --> 01:44:00.159



can really protect you from bad parenting until it like rises.221301:43:59.840 --> 01:44:00.960



To the level of abuse.221401:44:01.560 --> 01:44:03.680



And so it's something that we can arrest a parent221501:44:03.720 --> 01:44:07.359



for or take kids away from the parents. It's drug addiction,221601:44:07.520 --> 01:44:09.199



it's abuse, it's like all these kind of things. Like221701:44:10.079 --> 01:44:12.199



the state I think should step in in those situations.221801:44:12.279 --> 01:44:15.439



And but you cannot make people be good parents with221901:44:15.880 --> 01:44:19.279



some government program. Now you can try to encourage. I222001:44:19.279 --> 01:44:22.520



think we should encourage I mean, for lots of reasons222101:44:22.520 --> 01:44:23.960



that we could get into. I think we need a222201:44:24.000 --> 01:44:26.720



higher birth rate because we're just not replacing ourselves. Even222301:44:26.760 --> 01:44:28.479



I mean there's all sorts of economic and all sorts222401:44:28.520 --> 01:44:29.119



of reasons for.222501:44:29.039 --> 01:44:31.319



That too, But that's true. That's a true statement, Like.222601:44:31.279 --> 01:44:34.960



We need more kids that have two parents that love222701:44:35.039 --> 01:44:39.359



them and they know support them. And I just see222801:44:39.439 --> 01:44:43.920



the like it's not anecdotal evidence like in the evidence222901:44:43.960 --> 01:44:47.359



shows like two parent households, those kids fare better in223001:44:47.439 --> 01:44:50.640



every way, in academics, in career, in money made over223101:44:50.640 --> 01:44:54.159



their lifetime, in all sorts of ways. They do better223201:44:54.239 --> 01:44:57.479



across races. Now, like I said, there's still disparity there,223301:44:57.479 --> 01:44:59.000



but like then you go to the next level and223401:44:59.039 --> 01:45:01.640



you say, Okay, well, like that's one level, what's the223501:45:01.640 --> 01:45:04.399



next level? Well maybe there is. I mean, honestly, I223601:45:04.399 --> 01:45:06.279



think the biggest problem with a lot of it is223701:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.079



I think there's a lot of like soft racism of223801:45:09.159 --> 01:45:12.760



like these sort of low expectations of black kids. It's223901:45:13.199 --> 01:45:16.680



like that's a thing. You're right, California's graduating kids that224001:45:16.760 --> 01:45:18.680



can't read. That's not that kid's fault.224101:45:19.000 --> 01:45:20.159



That's not helping the kid either.224201:45:20.359 --> 01:45:22.960



The state failed him by saying, well, we've got to224301:45:22.960 --> 01:45:24.880



pass him along, we got to keep him moving along224401:45:24.920 --> 01:45:26.960



or else we look bad. And like if he doesn't224501:45:27.000 --> 01:45:28.840



do if we don't cheat these test scores to get224601:45:28.880 --> 01:45:31.720



him graduated, we get less funding or whatever. And like224701:45:31.760 --> 01:45:35.800



the motivations are all so perverse. And but like the224801:45:35.920 --> 01:45:39.119



state failed that kid. If you graduate from high school224901:45:39.439 --> 01:45:43.800



in California, who has more a higher GDP than basically225001:45:43.880 --> 01:45:46.399



all but like four countries in the world. I think,225101:45:46.479 --> 01:45:48.920



like if it was his own country, right in that.225201:45:48.840 --> 01:45:51.560



State in the world or something like that, the school.225301:45:51.880 --> 01:45:54.079



Is graduating people that can't read, and they're getting to225401:45:54.119 --> 01:45:56.640



college and college professors. They're even getting to college. That's225501:45:56.640 --> 01:45:58.119



what's crazy. They're like going to college and then like225601:45:58.199 --> 01:45:59.560



someone realizes they can't read.225701:46:00.239 --> 01:46:03.000



I've seen it. I can't. I'm all saying too much,225801:46:03.039 --> 01:46:05.039



but I'll just say I've seen it. I know.225901:46:05.359 --> 01:46:08.479



And so what bothers me about the race stuff specifically226001:46:08.520 --> 01:46:11.800



so much is that the Democratic Party I think has226101:46:11.920 --> 01:46:14.359



just taken advantage of having the black vote and just226201:46:14.439 --> 01:46:16.000



and just been like, well, we just have that in226301:46:16.039 --> 01:46:18.079



the bag, and like, but what have they done for226401:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.279



black people? Like they said black lives matter, and they226501:46:20.279 --> 01:46:22.920



put black things on their Instagram profiles, and.226601:46:22.840 --> 01:46:24.119



They say a lot of stuff.226701:46:24.359 --> 01:46:26.399



But I don't see a lot of actions making black226801:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.079



people's lives better by the Democratic Party. I really don't.226901:46:29.119 --> 01:46:33.399



I mean, and I don't think Republicans have I think227001:46:33.399 --> 01:46:35.880



Republicans are too stupid or you know, Donald Trump is227101:46:35.920 --> 01:46:37.479



a good example of someone who just thought he had227201:46:37.479 --> 01:46:39.399



to be racist to be a Republican. That's just what227301:46:39.439 --> 01:46:43.239



he assumed, which is also crazy. I don't think most227401:46:43.239 --> 01:46:45.039



Republicans are racist. I think there are more now than227501:46:45.039 --> 01:46:48.000



there were eight years ago. I think it's more towards227601:46:48.079 --> 01:46:49.920



Jews than black people. But I think it's there's there's227701:46:49.960 --> 01:46:54.520



all this animosity, and I just think that, you know,227801:46:54.680 --> 01:46:57.479



Donald Trump sort of too. I mean, he increased his227901:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.840



vote in every demographic other than white college educated women women.228001:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.640



That's the only that's the only demographic that he lost228101:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.960



vote on from twenty that's true twenty to twenty twenty four.228201:47:08.560 --> 01:47:10.680



And so I mean he did expand that a little bit.228301:47:10.720 --> 01:47:12.840



I don't think it's as I think Republicans are kind228401:47:12.840 --> 01:47:16.720



of like celebrating a little early that they like have228501:47:16.840 --> 01:47:18.399



that in the bag for forever. I mean, I think228601:47:18.439 --> 01:47:22.039



Democrats had some reason to believe that sort of demographic228701:47:22.159 --> 01:47:24.439



was destiny in some of the way, but I think228801:47:24.479 --> 01:47:26.439



they were they ended up being wrong, but they didn't.228901:47:26.880 --> 01:47:29.159



I don't think they were crazy to think. But like it,229001:47:29.720 --> 01:47:31.159



these people in the bag forever.229101:47:31.039 --> 01:47:34.399



Because at some point you could only lead them around229201:47:34.479 --> 01:47:35.840



like you only you can only lead them by a229301:47:35.840 --> 01:47:37.800



carrot for so long until you actually let them have229401:47:37.840 --> 01:47:40.720



the damn care. You got to do something for them, yeah,229501:47:40.720 --> 01:47:40.960



you know.229601:47:41.560 --> 01:47:42.880



And the other thing I don't like is that I229701:47:42.880 --> 01:47:46.119



think democrats a they talk down to black people all229801:47:46.119 --> 01:47:48.640



the time. I'm just I'm specifically picking that minority group229901:47:48.720 --> 01:47:52.720



just because they are so disproportionately affected by crime and230001:47:52.760 --> 01:47:56.279



by poverty and by violence, and and like they it230101:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.600



just this, it's a fact, they just are. But I230201:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.720



think of them as the victims of that stuff when230301:48:02.760 --> 01:48:05.960



you you know, because there are more black victims than230401:48:05.960 --> 01:48:09.680



there are perpetrators of those crimes. Like if some gangbanger230501:48:09.760 --> 01:48:14.039



shoots another kid, like even if that person goes to jail,230601:48:14.079 --> 01:48:18.479



that kind of affects them. But like the victim, it's230701:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.079



like their family and their neighborhood and maybe the store230801:48:21.119 --> 01:48:22.960



closes because it's too dangerous to be in, and now230901:48:22.960 --> 01:48:24.920



these people have to travel further and their stuff gets231001:48:24.920 --> 01:48:26.920



more expensive because people are breaking into it. There's all231101:48:26.960 --> 01:48:30.560



these factors that happen that I don't see that the231201:48:30.600 --> 01:48:33.079



Democratic card has like offered a lot of real good231301:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.520



solutions for even down to like with abortion stuff, planned231401:48:36.520 --> 01:48:40.079



parenthood puts people puts planned parenthood places in poor black231501:48:40.119 --> 01:48:42.840



neighborhoods more than they put them in other places. And231601:48:43.359 --> 01:48:47.479



you just go, why, Like that's what is Are you231701:48:47.560 --> 01:48:50.479



helping black people or are you helping exterminate black people?231801:48:50.479 --> 01:48:51.960



Because I mean that's how I look at it. I'm like,231901:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.479



there's been more black babies aborted than born, and so232001:48:54.520 --> 01:48:58.079



I go, your population would increase if that didn't happen.232101:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.560



I think most of them are fooled in believing they232201:49:00.560 --> 01:49:03.359



don't have another choice other than that because.232301:49:03.239 --> 01:49:04.439



They might not, you know.232401:49:04.640 --> 01:49:07.079



And I just think that, like all of those things combined,232501:49:07.920 --> 01:49:10.039



show me a Democratic party that has taken advantage of232601:49:10.039 --> 01:49:12.359



having black people, including trying to tell black people what232701:49:12.399 --> 01:49:14.880



they even when they disagree with them, they tell them232801:49:14.880 --> 01:49:18.119



they're wrong. So voter ID is a great example. Democrats232901:49:18.159 --> 01:49:22.079



say it's racist, right, It's like eighty percent of black233001:49:22.079 --> 01:49:24.800



people say, yeah, we're for voter ID. We think it's233101:49:24.800 --> 01:49:28.199



a good idea. Why would you check again, you're expecting233201:49:28.199 --> 01:49:30.760



black people to not be what smart enough to go233301:49:30.800 --> 01:49:31.960



get an ID Like.233401:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.760



That's racist, that's like, that's prejudice. Yeah, look, a lot233501:49:36.760 --> 01:49:38.439



of what you said goes back to what we were233601:49:38.520 --> 01:49:42.600



kind of saying earlier about how do we change the culture. Right,233701:49:42.680 --> 01:49:45.000



let's say on the black community. We're just talking by233801:49:45.000 --> 01:49:46.760



the way, everybody were just talking about because it came233901:49:46.840 --> 01:49:47.760



up with the gun violence.234001:49:47.800 --> 01:49:49.319



I just can't Yeah, and like I said, they are234101:49:49.399 --> 01:49:51.760



victims of zero on everybody.234201:49:52.279 --> 01:49:56.279



Listen, what you said is correct about the Democrat Party234301:49:56.319 --> 01:50:01.479



when it came to the black demographic. They say that234401:50:01.520 --> 01:50:04.439



they're for them, they're for the black demographic, but they234501:50:04.439 --> 01:50:06.760



haven't offered solutions. Like if they're offering solutions, they would234601:50:06.800 --> 01:50:08.600



have created opportunity from so they wouldn't have to be234701:50:08.640 --> 01:50:12.159



reliant in this on this vicious circle of violence and234801:50:12.199 --> 01:50:14.119



where they think that that's the only option for them234901:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.159



to get ahead and earn whatever money they think they235001:50:16.159 --> 01:50:20.359



can get through violence, right and crime. That's the big235101:50:20.399 --> 01:50:22.119



thing I see is they're not creating a real opportunity235201:50:22.119 --> 01:50:24.560



and they also have gotten away to what we were235301:50:24.560 --> 01:50:29.159



discussing earlier. The family unit, letting parents have control and235401:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.159



feeling like they have a support to be able to235501:50:31.279 --> 01:50:35.399



nurture their children. Yeah, to raise them correctly. That's not235601:50:35.520 --> 01:50:40.399



there the two things that Democrat Party failed to do235701:50:41.359 --> 01:50:42.279



with the black community.235801:50:42.319 --> 01:50:45.119



And look at what happened when Barack Obama, as president235901:50:45.159 --> 01:50:47.439



in the United States, as the first black president of236001:50:47.439 --> 01:50:51.720



the United States, calls out black fatherlessness as being a problem,236101:50:51.840 --> 01:50:53.920



like there should be no one more appropriate for that.236201:50:54.319 --> 01:50:56.840



And what does Jesse Jackson do. He goes on TV236301:50:57.000 --> 01:50:58.880



and on a hot mic says he wants to cut236401:50:58.880 --> 01:51:01.239



his balls off. He can't believe he's said that. You236501:51:01.279 --> 01:51:04.960



don't really care. Again, like like it just shows that236601:51:05.000 --> 01:51:08.600



it's a grift, Like even even Jesse Jackson's it's a236701:51:08.680 --> 01:51:12.840



race hustle. And because otherwise you would go, like to me,236801:51:13.119 --> 01:51:15.720



I had this hope that like it would be great236901:51:15.800 --> 01:51:19.880



to have like a black leader. And and like there237001:51:19.920 --> 01:51:21.399



have been other ones that have done this kind of237101:51:21.439 --> 01:51:24.640



thing and they normally get, you know, kind of crucified237201:51:24.640 --> 01:51:26.119



for it. So why would they go out on a237301:51:26.159 --> 01:51:29.239



limb and say that when it's and and again it's237401:51:29.359 --> 01:51:32.399



interesting to in that situation, was Jesse Jackson who's also black.237501:51:32.520 --> 01:51:34.479



So I'll always give them that. Most of the time,237601:51:34.520 --> 01:51:37.319



it's white people telling black people how to think, and237701:51:37.319 --> 01:51:39.000



that if they don't think the same way they do,237801:51:39.479 --> 01:51:42.920



their the problem. Whether that's photo I D laws or237901:51:42.960 --> 01:51:46.159



pick pick anything, pick a police. Defund the police is238001:51:46.199 --> 01:51:47.880



another one. It's like they got all on this, like238101:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.720



Black Lives Matter, defund the police, and most black people238201:51:50.720 --> 01:51:53.000



in those communities were not saying defund the police. They238301:51:53.000 --> 01:51:55.840



were going, uh, we would like more police, Like we238401:51:55.960 --> 01:51:57.800



live in this every day. You get a you get238501:51:57.800 --> 01:52:01.239



a like from your ivory tower. Uh, tell us how238601:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.119



to live, Like, we're the ones, like whose kids are238701:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.199



getting murdered, We're the we're the ones who deal with238801:52:05.239 --> 01:52:08.000



this crime. We're the deal with like like and so,238901:52:08.239 --> 01:52:10.439



and you're telling us the solutions. We should just get239001:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.960



rid of all police. Like you're not even asking us239101:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.840



what we want from this, and like that's what infuriates me,239201:52:15.920 --> 01:52:17.159



and I know it's.239301:52:16.920 --> 01:52:21.960



It's let's let's circle this back. So basically, after everything's239401:52:21.960 --> 01:52:25.960



said and done, we we don't really have a gun problem.239501:52:26.640 --> 01:52:28.680



We have a cultural problem. We have we have we239601:52:28.760 --> 01:52:32.880



have a problem in culture and community that needs to239701:52:32.880 --> 01:52:33.520



be addressed.239801:52:33.880 --> 01:52:36.359



Yeah, really, yeah, I mean I think we do have239901:52:36.399 --> 01:52:39.960



a violence problem that gets escalated because guns are such240001:52:40.000 --> 01:52:41.640



an easy way to commit violence.240101:52:41.760 --> 01:52:44.600



Okay, does that make sense? Like, no, it does, but240201:52:44.640 --> 01:52:51.159



it contributes to here. Here's here's my here's my slight pushback. So,240301:52:51.479 --> 01:52:53.880



all things equal and considered, UK, you're not supposed to240401:52:53.920 --> 01:52:55.560



have a gun. If you look at the murder rates,240501:52:55.560 --> 01:52:57.920



if you take suicides away, et cetera, and you look240601:52:57.960 --> 01:53:00.760



at the actual murder rates of the country per capita,240701:53:01.319 --> 01:53:02.680



we're not that far apart.240801:53:03.640 --> 01:53:06.039



No, But when you when you pull in all violent crime,240901:53:06.279 --> 01:53:08.399



it's it is and it always has been for the241001:53:08.439 --> 01:53:10.680



history of our entire nation. Like we are a more241101:53:10.720 --> 01:53:12.760



rebellious and more I understand.241201:53:12.800 --> 01:53:14.800



But when if you look at the murder rates and241301:53:14.840 --> 01:53:16.079



I don't know what they are now, this is when241401:53:16.079 --> 01:53:18.199



I this was, I mean, I don't forgot when I241501:53:18.239 --> 01:53:20.479



did this, But when you look at it, they were241601:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.119



not that far apart. If you're looking at population per241701:53:23.119 --> 01:53:25.720



capita U case, there was there was a huge amount241801:53:25.840 --> 01:53:30.279



of stabbing deaths, and then where there wasn't stabbings in241901:53:30.359 --> 01:53:33.000



other countries, it was by any other means. And my242001:53:33.159 --> 01:53:36.520



point being, Blake is crazy We'll find a way to242101:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.840



be crazy. Period. They're gonna if if they're if they're242201:53:39.880 --> 01:53:45.000



intent on killing and their intent on causing havoc and242301:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.319



and you know, committing crimes, they will do it. They242401:53:47.319 --> 01:53:48.399



will find a way to do it.242501:53:48.760 --> 01:53:51.840



Right, look at people driving like vehicles in crowds of242601:53:51.880 --> 01:53:52.520



people and stuff.242701:53:52.520 --> 01:53:55.720



Now, the guns make a statement because they're pretty finite.242801:53:55.800 --> 01:54:01.560



I mean, it's well, and there's a there.242901:54:01.560 --> 01:54:03.960



Is the I mean again, another thing with it, going243001:54:04.000 --> 01:54:06.600



back to the contagion thing, is it's a media problem243101:54:06.720 --> 01:54:09.880



in the sense that like when it's an arr it243201:54:10.039 --> 01:54:13.399



seems so much scarier, like and and most of people243301:54:13.439 --> 01:54:15.640



I know that are ignorant on guns, and not because243401:54:15.680 --> 01:54:17.640



they're stupid, just because like they don't own them. They243501:54:17.680 --> 01:54:20.039



don't want to, And that's fine, Like I don't. It's243601:54:20.079 --> 01:54:22.319



totally right to do whatever you want to. When I243701:54:22.479 --> 01:54:25.279



actually explain what the differences are between like an ar243801:54:25.399 --> 01:54:28.199



and the rifle, well not really them, maybe not the243901:54:28.279 --> 01:54:31.239



right host bolt action, but so but my point is like,244001:54:31.520 --> 01:54:33.119



and then you look at the actual stats, like do244101:54:33.119 --> 01:54:35.680



you know how many people are murdered by all rifles244201:54:35.920 --> 01:54:39.439



in the country. It's uh, it's less than it's less244301:54:39.479 --> 01:54:42.000



than two percent of all the murders in mostly in244401:54:42.039 --> 01:54:45.399



the countries as opposed to handguns and shotguns. And honestly,244501:54:45.399 --> 01:54:49.159



more people are murdered by fists than they are by244601:54:49.239 --> 01:54:52.520



rifles in the United States every year. So but like244701:54:52.560 --> 01:54:54.720



most people, you know, most people don't because it's just244801:54:54.760 --> 01:54:57.119



not like that's not sexy. No one, like, no one244901:54:57.199 --> 01:55:01.000



is scared, Like the local news is always going to run.245001:55:01.159 --> 01:55:03.880



Someone got shot over, someone got beat up, even if245101:55:03.880 --> 01:55:06.319



they got murdered with those hands. If someone choked someone245201:55:06.319 --> 01:55:08.760



to death, which happened like by all, also happens more245301:55:08.800 --> 01:55:12.560



often then than murders by long guns.245401:55:12.760 --> 01:55:14.279



I don't know how much more scary is that though,245501:55:14.279 --> 01:55:16.319



when you think about the commitment of actually killing someone245601:55:16.359 --> 01:55:17.600



with your bare hands, I mean.245701:55:17.560 --> 01:55:20.439



Right, And that's the other problem is yeah, so that's245801:55:20.439 --> 01:55:23.359



where like guns do. Like the one thing I will245901:55:23.359 --> 01:55:26.520



give the caveat is that guns do make it a246001:55:26.520 --> 01:55:30.720



lot easier to have a well, I'm a huge Batman fan,246101:55:30.760 --> 01:55:32.520



and she probably gets by the Batman stuff behind me246201:55:32.600 --> 01:55:34.920



the Dark Knight quote of like you know him liking246301:55:34.960 --> 01:55:37.800



to stab people because it's like so personal, right, and246401:55:38.319 --> 01:55:41.119



like there's something like creepy to that, because it's true,246501:55:41.199 --> 01:55:43.000



like it would take Like I don't know if I246601:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.199



could shoot someone if my life life was in danger.246701:55:45.279 --> 01:55:46.880



I think it would still be a lot harder to246801:55:46.880 --> 01:55:49.520



stab someone. For me, I think it would be that246901:55:49.680 --> 01:55:53.279



feels a lot more real than firing a gun at someone.247001:55:53.560 --> 01:55:56.920



It's more connected to it. Right, it's you physically, you know,247101:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.800



having to plunge that instrument versus you're from Afar and247201:56:00.000 --> 01:56:01.640



plowing a trigger and then you got to yep, projectile247301:56:01.640 --> 01:56:02.319



doing it for you.247401:56:02.520 --> 01:56:05.399



Yeah, and so like to that degree, I would say, yeah,247501:56:05.399 --> 01:56:06.880



it makes stuff a little bit easier. But at the247601:56:06.920 --> 01:56:08.720



same time, and there's four hundred million of them in247701:56:08.720 --> 01:56:13.319



the United States too, the crazy right, but the the247801:56:13.840 --> 01:56:18.279



like again that doesn't We have got lots of things247901:56:18.279 --> 01:56:21.760



that can kill us, you know, and most of them248001:56:21.880 --> 01:56:25.680



do more than those guns do. And really, and the248101:56:25.720 --> 01:56:27.640



other problem is, like I said, we're looking at we248201:56:27.960 --> 01:56:31.159



like most people have an outsized idea of how often248301:56:31.199 --> 01:56:32.960



school shootings happening. Like I don't think we should do248401:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.399



school shooter drills in schools because kids are more likely248501:56:35.520 --> 01:56:38.560



literally statistically more likely to die walking to school than248601:56:38.600 --> 01:56:40.880



they are to ever be in a school shooting, not248701:56:41.039 --> 01:56:43.079



die in a school shooting, like be at a school248801:56:43.079 --> 01:56:45.760



where a school shooting happens, like it's just like it248901:56:45.800 --> 01:56:47.840



doesn't really happen. And even the number you rattled off249001:56:47.880 --> 01:56:52.800



earlier that includes like the school resource officer accidentally discharging249101:56:52.800 --> 01:56:55.079



his weapon on the school girls, they count that as249201:56:55.119 --> 01:56:58.279



school shooting, it's really only like a hundred something. I249301:56:58.319 --> 01:57:00.560



don't have the exact number. I'm going to try to249401:57:00.560 --> 01:57:02.399



pull it out, but it's only like one hundred and249501:57:02.399 --> 01:57:05.279



something since nineteen eighty when you actually look at mass249601:57:05.279 --> 01:57:06.000



casually events.249701:57:06.039 --> 01:57:08.680



The thing with the school shootings too, is like they249801:57:08.720 --> 01:57:11.159



already look okay, schools are really looked like prisons right now.249901:57:11.800 --> 01:57:14.800



They really do. They're all fenced off, they're guarded. High250001:57:14.840 --> 01:57:17.720



schools have police officers.250101:57:17.840 --> 01:57:19.439



I mean, my daughter has to go through a metal250201:57:19.439 --> 01:57:21.640



detector in middle school at a small school. It's not250301:57:21.720 --> 01:57:24.359



it's crazy and still to think and still to think250401:57:24.399 --> 01:57:27.640



what we were talking about earlier, that pretty much the majority,250501:57:27.640 --> 01:57:30.000



if not ninety, so I don't know the exact percentage,250601:57:30.000 --> 01:57:35.000



but it is committed by other students. So who you're250701:57:35.039 --> 01:57:37.279



telling what the plan is if a school shooter comes250801:57:37.279 --> 01:57:40.640



into the building crazy. I also go you're telegraphing what250901:57:40.720 --> 01:57:43.000



to like there should that just it's a bad plan,251001:57:43.119 --> 01:57:45.600



you know what I mean. And I also think.251101:57:45.439 --> 01:57:48.119



It's traumatizing kids because they you know, after they do251201:57:48.119 --> 01:57:50.439



a drill, they're going home thinking, hey, mom, am I251301:57:50.439 --> 01:57:52.880



going to die? Like what's really talking about?251401:57:52.920 --> 01:57:54.600



And so I think of it like seat belts. I251501:57:54.680 --> 01:57:56.119



tell my kids to put their seat belts in the car,251601:57:56.319 --> 01:57:58.840



not because I think we're I don't tell them, hey,251701:57:58.880 --> 01:58:01.199



we might get in a fiery car crash and you'll251801:58:01.239 --> 01:58:03.279



die if you don't have a seatbelt on. I don't251901:58:03.319 --> 01:58:06.039



say that every time I get in the car. It's like,252001:58:06.279 --> 01:58:09.479



if we get in a wreck, it's the safest possible252101:58:09.560 --> 01:58:11.279



situation is for you to be in a seatbelt or252201:58:11.319 --> 01:58:13.359



car seat or whatever the situation is. I don't want252301:58:13.359 --> 01:58:15.279



you to be scared of getting in a car every252401:58:15.279 --> 01:58:17.079



time you get in a car. And the way we252501:58:17.119 --> 01:58:19.560



talk about school shootings, you've got people that literally have252601:58:19.600 --> 01:58:22.439



this anxiety that it's going to happen to them and252701:58:22.720 --> 01:58:25.199



it's just not statistically very likely to And I'm not252801:58:25.239 --> 01:58:27.560



saying I'm not doing that to downplay the tragedy of252901:58:27.600 --> 01:58:30.000



it happening. But it does have an outsized level of fear,253001:58:30.039 --> 01:58:35.600



which also includes that notoriety influences more people to do it.253101:58:36.039 --> 01:58:39.199



That's a reason it normalizes it and normalizes the idea253201:58:39.279 --> 01:58:40.000



of it. Right.253301:58:40.000 --> 01:58:41.920



It basically says, this happens all the time, there's nothing253401:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.479



you can do about it. And I think that that253501:58:44.680 --> 01:58:46.720



is such a bad mentality, and I think the right253601:58:46.840 --> 01:58:50.119



has done a little bit too much of I think253701:58:50.159 --> 01:58:53.039



there are really obvious solutions to even solving school shooting stuff.253801:58:53.079 --> 01:58:55.800



I think it's like the best one. I've read a253901:58:55.960 --> 01:58:58.640



blog called hand Wavering free Gatory, which you can imagine254001:58:58.720 --> 01:58:59.880



and is right up my alley as far as all254101:58:59.920 --> 01:59:01.680



you talks about. It's like the things people freak out254201:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.159



about but are really not worth freaking out about. And254301:59:05.199 --> 01:59:08.640



specifically he talks about how look, why would you not?254401:59:08.880 --> 01:59:10.640



Like I did the math on this, It would cost254501:59:10.680 --> 01:59:13.800



something like less than a billion dollars I think, or254601:59:13.880 --> 01:59:15.840



something a year. It's not very much money when you're254701:59:15.880 --> 01:59:18.279



looking at the federal budget. You just put like an254801:59:18.319 --> 01:59:22.560



ex marine at every high school in America, like in254901:59:22.640 --> 01:59:25.439



the full things with the ar like at the door,255001:59:25.760 --> 01:59:29.439



like do you think anyone's gonna go to that? School, No, no,255101:59:29.520 --> 01:59:32.359



because they know they're gonna get sniped immediately by the255201:59:32.439 --> 01:59:35.920



guy that's better trained than them. And it's like, doesn't255301:59:35.920 --> 01:59:38.439



cost that much money. And then but the real every255401:59:38.439 --> 01:59:40.319



time I bring that up to someone that's like more255501:59:40.359 --> 01:59:43.640



just totally anti gun, they're like, we shouldn't have to,255601:59:44.039 --> 01:59:46.039



and then they get into a moral thing. I'm like, okay,255701:59:46.199 --> 01:59:48.840



like great, be on your soapbox and talk about that.255801:59:48.960 --> 01:59:51.520



I think another pretty good solution would be if I255901:59:51.600 --> 01:59:54.000



had control, if I was a school district, I would256001:59:54.039 --> 01:59:56.760



have a news conference and I would have press releases256101:59:56.800 --> 01:59:58.880



and all this stuff about we're training teachers, they're going256201:59:58.920 --> 02:00:01.880



to carry guns. You're not going to know who they are.256302:00:01.960 --> 02:00:03.680



But like, we're gonna have a sign outside that doesn't256402:00:03.680 --> 02:00:05.119



say it's a gun free zone. We're gonna say we256502:00:05.119 --> 02:00:06.760



have armed teachers here. You're not allowed to bring a256602:00:06.800 --> 02:00:09.640



gun in, but there are armed teachers here. I don't256702:00:09.640 --> 02:00:11.760



think you'd even have to train one teacher. I think256802:00:11.760 --> 02:00:14.239



if you've literally had the press conference and pretended to256902:00:14.319 --> 02:00:16.520



do it, your school would no longer be on the257002:00:16.560 --> 02:00:19.000



list of places people would go shoot up like there257102:00:19.000 --> 02:00:21.199



are and like it sounds like a really silly solution,257202:00:21.760 --> 02:00:23.760



but like I think it's a real solution. You just257302:00:23.800 --> 02:00:26.960



like look at the manifestos and again, why why could257402:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.920



we not hire National Guard or ex military people people257502:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.760



will be trust to just like go do it. And257602:00:32.800 --> 02:00:35.119



I think that you could. I think you would see257702:00:35.279 --> 02:00:37.800



a draft. I think if like perfect. First of all,257802:00:37.840 --> 02:00:39.680



it's a perfect thing for Donald Trump to do. It's257902:00:39.760 --> 02:00:41.920



right up as AALI loves using the military for things258002:00:41.920 --> 02:00:44.319



that we kind of have qualms about. Like I said,258102:00:44.359 --> 02:00:47.079



make it ex people like make it former Marines. They're258202:00:47.119 --> 02:00:49.399



not like they're really just the resource officer. They're just258302:00:49.439 --> 02:00:51.399



not the fat guy that can't be a real cop.258402:00:51.520 --> 02:00:54.000



They're like, and pay them, well, pay them eighty I258502:00:54.199 --> 02:00:55.600



think I did the math on if you paid them258602:00:55.600 --> 02:00:58.000



eighty thousand dollars a year, which is pretty pretty good258702:00:58.000 --> 02:01:00.520



amount of money for sitting at a school right basically258802:01:00.560 --> 02:01:02.479



being a security officer. Make it a hundred thousand.258902:01:02.520 --> 02:01:04.640



Do you think we're having like full fatigues and everything too.259002:01:04.920 --> 02:01:08.800



Yep, I'm saying, like the full on the whole, the uniform,259102:01:08.880 --> 02:01:12.359



the ar, all the best stuff chapstick over here, like259202:01:12.399 --> 02:01:14.600



all of it, like make it look like I went259302:01:14.640 --> 02:01:17.560



to my sister in law. I just graduated from the259402:01:17.640 --> 02:01:21.039



Naval Academy and we went to a graduation where Jade259502:01:21.119 --> 02:01:25.159



Vance was speaking. Can you imagine what the security was259602:01:25.199 --> 02:01:26.479



like to get in the First of all, it was259702:01:26.560 --> 02:01:29.039



wildly disorganized because they probably fired everyone. They did it259802:01:29.079 --> 02:01:31.359



the year before, so it took us three hours to259902:01:31.359 --> 02:01:33.760



get in the stadium and anyway, but like you knew260002:01:35.239 --> 02:01:37.199



like they were and this is a place they guard260102:01:37.199 --> 02:01:39.039



all the time because it's you know, it's the stadium260202:01:39.119 --> 02:01:41.199



that the president or vice president speaks that every year260302:01:41.239 --> 02:01:43.199



at this graduation. They should know how to do this.260402:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.399



But yeah, everyone there is like in full on, Like260502:01:46.479 --> 02:01:49.039



no one's messing around. You don't have any like fat260602:01:49.239 --> 02:01:53.319



cops there like with their right their little revolver, and260702:01:53.399 --> 02:01:56.399



like everyone was like full gear. And I'm just saying260802:01:56.399 --> 02:01:59.319



there's a seriousness that people take. And like what I like,260902:01:59.319 --> 02:02:01.560



I said I don't like is the pushback from people261002:02:01.600 --> 02:02:04.039



that are really anti gun is that they're just like,261102:02:04.199 --> 02:02:06.079



we shouldn't have to do that, we shouldn't have to261202:02:06.119 --> 02:02:08.920



fortify our schools. I'm like, I agree, I wish we261302:02:08.920 --> 02:02:11.680



were in a world where we didn't have to do this.261402:02:12.119 --> 02:02:13.920



But wouldn't you rather do the thing that prevents it261502:02:13.920 --> 02:02:18.560



from happening, than have the moral high ground of kids261602:02:18.560 --> 02:02:20.239



not having to see a gun on campus. First of all,261702:02:20.279 --> 02:02:23.359



I don't think like everyone already has the like resource officers,261802:02:23.359 --> 02:02:24.880



they're just poorly trained, they're not.261902:02:25.039 --> 02:02:27.199



But we we still have to we still have to262002:02:27.239 --> 02:02:30.520



address the issue of the majority of school shooters being262102:02:31.000 --> 02:02:33.079



you know, carried out by other students.262202:02:33.279 --> 02:02:35.000



Yeah, okay, at Max, there have been one hundred and262302:02:35.079 --> 02:02:37.399



ninety one active school shooter incidents at K twelve since262402:02:37.479 --> 02:02:42.600



nineteen eighty. That's like active shooter, you know, like it's indiscriminate.262502:02:42.640 --> 02:02:47.680



It's just about actually deliberate mass shootings versus.262602:02:46.479 --> 02:02:49.039



In those there. And keep in mind I wrote this262702:02:49.039 --> 02:02:50.800



this is probably a year old, so there might be262802:02:50.800 --> 02:02:53.640



a couple more than that that. Of those since nineteen eighty,262902:02:53.640 --> 02:02:55.840



one hundred and forty eight student fatalities and four hundred263002:02:55.840 --> 02:02:58.720



and fifty wounded. That is not when people call it263102:02:58.760 --> 02:03:02.520



an epidemic. Like I said, more kids have died walking263202:03:02.520 --> 02:03:04.199



to school and that amount of time, more kids have263302:03:04.239 --> 02:03:05.840



died in the car rides on the way to school.263402:03:05.920 --> 02:03:08.840



More kids have died like there are also more kids263502:03:08.920 --> 02:03:12.359



of death probably died drowning I imagine, I mean like263602:03:12.439 --> 02:03:14.439



way more, you know, and like swimming pools are the263702:03:14.479 --> 02:03:18.239



most dangerous thing that we have around everywhere, and like263802:03:18.279 --> 02:03:21.319



more people die of accidental drowning than almost anything. It's263902:03:21.359 --> 02:03:24.039



like small kids and older adults generally. But and again264002:03:24.239 --> 02:03:26.199



we go, how could we make that better? Well, most264102:03:26.239 --> 02:03:27.760



state laws now have a thing. It's like building, you264202:03:27.840 --> 02:03:29.239



got to put a fence around it where a kid264302:03:29.239 --> 02:03:31.359



can't get into it. Like there's some really just smart264402:03:31.439 --> 02:03:33.039



things that you can go. That's an easy thing to264502:03:33.039 --> 02:03:34.880



prevent a kid from falling in a pool. And I264602:03:34.920 --> 02:03:36.680



look at school shootings the same way where I go,264702:03:36.840 --> 02:03:38.319



And that's why I say the media is to blame264802:03:39.800 --> 02:03:44.119



no one. Everyone would overestimate that number. If I pulled264902:03:44.520 --> 02:03:47.000



one hundred people on the street, everyone would think there'd265002:03:47.039 --> 02:03:48.960



been more than one hundred and ninety one shootings. And265102:03:49.039 --> 02:03:50.880



everyone would think that more than one hundred and forty265202:03:50.880 --> 02:03:52.439



eight kids have died and more than four and fifty265302:03:52.479 --> 02:03:54.800



and been wounded. And I'm not saying all of those265402:03:54.800 --> 02:03:57.760



aren't tragedies. None of those should have ever happened. But265502:03:59.079 --> 02:04:03.039



there are like forty other problems that are more important.265602:04:03.079 --> 02:04:04.640



But I think this is just such an like I said,265702:04:04.640 --> 02:04:07.560



put armed guards outside, you're done, and make them be265802:04:07.560 --> 02:04:10.840



people that are already really well trained militarily. And E said,265902:04:10.880 --> 02:04:12.640



I think it's something that's right up Donald Trump's alley.266002:04:13.000 --> 02:04:15.760



I think it would be actually a great thing to try,266102:04:15.920 --> 02:04:17.960



like just get the states to go in. Like here's266202:04:17.960 --> 02:04:20.239



what I think would happened. The realistic version of this266302:04:21.039 --> 02:04:24.479



is Donald Trump gets all the Red state Republicans to266402:04:24.560 --> 02:04:25.439



have the National Guard.266502:04:25.560 --> 02:04:25.880



Do that.266602:04:26.960 --> 02:04:28.840



You just post one guy out of every high school.266702:04:29.560 --> 02:04:31.520



What I think you would see is a real time266802:04:31.600 --> 02:04:34.560



experiment where shootings would go down in those Red states266902:04:34.840 --> 02:04:37.239



and they'd go and they'd stay the same or whatever267002:04:37.239 --> 02:04:39.680



in the Blue states. More than likely, you know, and267102:04:39.720 --> 02:04:42.680



I would be I would bet money that that's the267202:04:42.760 --> 02:04:44.840



result of it, is that you do not see a267302:04:44.840 --> 02:04:47.279



school shooting at a place that has an armed like267402:04:47.479 --> 02:04:52.800



military guy outside. So I don't know if that's too inelegant.267502:04:52.800 --> 02:04:55.680



But no, no, no, no, we covered a lot of ground here.267602:04:57.159 --> 02:04:58.680



I don't know if we have time. It's up to267702:04:58.720 --> 02:05:02.399



you going to see if we can go overseas for267802:05:02.439 --> 02:05:05.640



a bit and get your opinion. I'm okay, so let's go.267902:05:05.720 --> 02:05:09.239



Let's go overseas now because domestically we're a mess. We've268002:05:09.239 --> 02:05:11.720



got ideas, but hopefully, you know, hopefully some of these268102:05:11.760 --> 02:05:15.279



get implemented. That'd be great. So let's talk about what's268202:05:15.359 --> 02:05:19.000



going on with a lot of the European countries that268302:05:19.039 --> 02:05:21.840



are recognizing the state of Palestine. I don't know how268402:05:21.840 --> 02:05:24.079



you feel about that situation in general. Oh, I've got268502:05:24.079 --> 02:05:27.720



lots of opinion. Yeah, okay, but it is very interesting. Yeah,268602:05:27.800 --> 02:05:32.199



how everyone is completely anti Israel, anti semi as well268702:05:32.279 --> 02:05:34.319



or anti Semitic. We've seen an increase of that in268802:05:34.359 --> 02:05:38.119



the United States, and and I'm not I'll just hear268902:05:38.159 --> 02:05:41.319



you out. We'll see where this goes. But what are269002:05:41.359 --> 02:05:42.319



your thoughts there.269102:05:43.159 --> 02:05:47.640



When it comes to the I mean, first of all,269202:05:47.640 --> 02:05:50.880



I think geopolitical stuff and wars are I mean, wars269302:05:50.880 --> 02:05:54.800



are bad, right, Like there's there's no version of a269402:05:54.880 --> 02:05:58.079



war that's good. They're certainly like righteous wars. But like269502:05:59.359 --> 02:06:03.239



the things that happen in World War Two for US269602:06:03.279 --> 02:06:07.079



and our allies to save the world essentially, like are269702:06:07.159 --> 02:06:09.560



not like there's a lot of death. You've got like269802:06:09.640 --> 02:06:11.880



tens of millions, was it sixty to eighty million people?269902:06:11.960 --> 02:06:15.600



Or in World War two nothing good, nothing good, and270002:06:15.680 --> 02:06:19.520



yet like so now everything is amplified by like the Internet,270102:06:19.760 --> 02:06:21.680



like we just we are much more aware of what's270202:06:21.680 --> 02:06:23.640



going on because we were getting like minute by minute270302:06:23.720 --> 02:06:24.279



or hour by.270402:06:24.239 --> 02:06:25.880



Hour or day by day sort of updates.270502:06:25.920 --> 02:06:30.760



So I think war feels heavier, Like I think there's270602:06:30.760 --> 02:06:32.359



a lot of people that have this perception that this270702:06:32.439 --> 02:06:35.159



is this like, well, no, we saw it with the270802:06:35.159 --> 02:06:37.399



Iraq and Afghanistan wars too. People were saying, like, it's270902:06:37.399 --> 02:06:38.159



the new viet think.271002:06:38.079 --> 02:06:39.840



That's where it started was back then.271102:06:39.800 --> 02:06:43.880



And you're like, I mean it's like a tiny percentage271202:06:43.960 --> 02:06:46.640



of the people that were wounded or killed in Vietnam271302:06:46.760 --> 02:06:49.119



as you know, it's like three thousand versus eighty thousand.271402:06:49.199 --> 02:06:51.840



I mean, it's just like a wild difference in the numbers,271502:06:51.840 --> 02:06:54.720



and you just go like it's not the same thing.271602:06:54.920 --> 02:06:56.760



But I think we always the first time was up271702:06:56.840 --> 02:06:59.039



upfront and personal, like yes, every time we turned on271802:06:59.079 --> 02:07:01.880



the TV and it was just constant twenty every night.271902:07:01.920 --> 02:07:05.159



And the first time we had that really was the272002:07:05.199 --> 02:07:07.159



Gulf War, which was just like super quick in the272102:07:07.239 --> 02:07:10.840



nineties because really Vietnam was like news real, I mean,272202:07:10.880 --> 02:07:12.760



it was like him and.272302:07:12.720 --> 02:07:15.479



Then it was started with the golf War. The wars272402:07:15.479 --> 02:07:17.920



in Iraq is what really what started all of this.272502:07:18.079 --> 02:07:20.159



It became you can literally broadcast it in real time.272602:07:20.159 --> 02:07:24.079



There were correspondents for cable news live on the air272702:07:24.720 --> 02:07:26.560



as things are blowing up behind them, and that was272802:07:26.600 --> 02:07:29.840



just not a thing we had before. No fast forward272902:07:29.880 --> 02:07:32.479



to now what you end up with, I think is273002:07:33.239 --> 02:07:35.720



so basically we over were feeling the weight of it,273102:07:36.199 --> 02:07:39.039



and we oversimplify everything because again now everything is are273202:07:39.039 --> 02:07:41.000



you pro this or you're anti this? Everything's black and white,273302:07:41.039 --> 02:07:42.720



and war is just not black and white. It just273402:07:42.840 --> 02:07:50.079



isn't it can't be what bothers me about the pro273502:07:50.079 --> 02:07:54.239



Palestine stuff or the is most of it is rooted273602:07:54.279 --> 02:07:56.439



in anti Semitism. And I don't even think most people273702:07:56.640 --> 02:07:58.880



realize they're being anti Semitic when they say some of273802:07:58.880 --> 02:08:02.279



the things from the River to the sea is racist.273902:08:02.520 --> 02:08:05.039



You're saying that you want to I mean, like Hamas's274002:08:05.119 --> 02:08:07.720



explicit charter was we want to kill Jews everywhere they274102:08:07.720 --> 02:08:11.119



are in the world. Okay, So that is the that's274202:08:11.159 --> 02:08:14.720



the organization we're dealing with. And the people in Gaza274302:08:14.880 --> 02:08:17.039



elected these people in two thousand and six and then274402:08:17.039 --> 02:08:20.560



they immediately took over everything, murdered any opposition, never had274502:08:20.560 --> 02:08:23.359



elections again. But they were elected. I mean these people274602:08:23.359 --> 02:08:27.399



were elected by the people in Gaza. And in Gaza274702:08:27.439 --> 02:08:30.479



and the West Bank children are taught that the best274802:08:30.479 --> 02:08:31.720



thing you can do is murder a Jew, and they274902:08:31.720 --> 02:08:33.840



teach them how to slit jewe throats, and like, there275002:08:33.920 --> 02:08:36.920



is an indoctrination that's happening that we will not change275102:08:37.319 --> 02:08:40.399



for generations, even if you, even if you could snap,275202:08:40.520 --> 02:08:43.279



Donald Trump could snap his fingers. And in the conflict275302:08:44.079 --> 02:08:46.640



this one, there will not be two state solution tomorrow.275402:08:46.640 --> 02:08:49.680



There will not be because there are a significant portion275502:08:50.279 --> 02:08:52.960



of people who are pouce to any and either Gaza275602:08:53.119 --> 02:08:57.600



or West Bank truly believe that they've got to kill275702:08:57.640 --> 02:09:00.720



all the Jews. That is a fact and there's just275802:09:00.760 --> 02:09:03.920



no getting around that. Not like, are they also victims275902:09:04.119 --> 02:09:06.760



of Hamas? Absolutely they are, because Hamas does not care276002:09:06.800 --> 02:09:10.520



about them at all. Hamas uses them as a tool276102:09:10.840 --> 02:09:13.640



to get They know how the Western press works and276202:09:13.640 --> 02:09:17.600



they've been playing us like a fiddle for decades, and276302:09:17.880 --> 02:09:21.399



they know that they can use civilians as human shields.276402:09:21.439 --> 02:09:23.279



They know that they can hide weapons, they can commit276502:09:23.319 --> 02:09:26.000



war crimes over and over and over and over again,276602:09:26.159 --> 02:09:29.359



and as long as it results in civilians dying, the276702:09:29.399 --> 02:09:31.439



Western press will use it as a way to point276802:09:31.479 --> 02:09:35.079



that Israel is trying to kill all the Palestinians instead276902:09:35.079 --> 02:09:40.199



of like understanding that what's happening is that Hamas wants277002:09:40.239 --> 02:09:45.600



those civilian casualties and the best exit. There are so277102:09:45.640 --> 02:09:47.319



many good examples of this, but the one I point277202:09:47.319 --> 02:09:51.159



to a lot is Madi Tali I think is his name.277302:09:52.079 --> 02:09:53.680



He's at the Free Press now, he was at AP277402:09:53.840 --> 02:09:56.079



and he there's a clip of him on Instagram, like277502:09:56.119 --> 02:09:57.800



to give him the speech, and he's basically saying like, look,277602:09:57.840 --> 02:10:01.800



I think I was the first person to change an277702:10:01.880 --> 02:10:04.239



article because of a threat from Hamas. Like basically I277802:10:04.279 --> 02:10:06.439



had a source inside of Gaza As a great reporter277902:10:07.079 --> 02:10:09.680



came to this information, and basically the information was Hamas278002:10:09.760 --> 02:10:12.000



is dressing up as civilians. This is in two thousand278102:10:12.000 --> 02:10:15.359



and eight. They're dressing as civilians so that when they278202:10:15.399 --> 02:10:17.560



get killed, they're counting them as civilians. And not only that,278302:10:17.600 --> 02:10:19.800



like obviously the enemy can't tell who's who, and you278402:10:19.840 --> 02:10:22.680



know they're all this deception going on. Well, that person278502:10:22.760 --> 02:10:24.000



ends up calling and be like you got to take278602:10:24.039 --> 02:10:27.239



that out because you know the underlying story is Hamas278702:10:27.239 --> 02:10:29.119



has figured out who I am and they're threatening to278802:10:29.199 --> 02:10:30.960



kill me and my family if you don't change that.278902:10:31.319 --> 02:10:33.720



And he petitioned the AP at the time, who he279002:10:33.760 --> 02:10:35.880



worked for, to at least put a note in the279102:10:36.000 --> 02:10:38.840



article that like, we have changed this article to comply279202:10:38.920 --> 02:10:42.239



with hamas propaganda, like it's fair at least say what happened,279302:10:42.239 --> 02:10:44.439



We'll take the thing out, and they wouldn't do it.279402:10:44.520 --> 02:10:46.439



So that's been going on since two thousand and eight.279502:10:46.479 --> 02:10:48.359



That was only two years after Hamas came in power.279602:10:48.920 --> 02:10:52.119



They absolutely know how to do this stuff. There were279702:10:52.119 --> 02:10:56.159



people on the left celebrating October seventh before Israel did anything.279802:10:56.199 --> 02:10:58.239



So don't tell me this is about Israel's actions. Don't279902:10:58.279 --> 02:11:01.000



tell me this is about Israel's like missteps in the war,280002:11:01.159 --> 02:11:03.159



things that we don't agree with. There are plenty of280102:11:03.199 --> 02:11:06.479



people in Israel that disagree with bbing that nowho. They280202:11:06.479 --> 02:11:08.239



don't like him, they don't think he's leading this war. Well,280302:11:08.600 --> 02:11:10.720



they blame him for October seventh in the first place.280402:11:11.239 --> 02:11:13.960



And I would never say that that those people in280502:11:14.039 --> 02:11:17.800



Israel are anti Semitic. You know that doesn't fly. But280602:11:18.039 --> 02:11:19.359



I do think a lot of people on the left280702:11:19.399 --> 02:11:22.359



hide behind this. No, I'm not anti Semitic, I'm anti Zionists,280802:11:22.399 --> 02:11:23.960



which again I was just like, so you just don't280902:11:24.000 --> 02:11:26.720



think Jews should have a place to live, right and281002:11:26.760 --> 02:11:29.359



so anyway, the point is we're never really having the281102:11:29.399 --> 02:11:33.279



fair conversation because people will accuse Israel of a genocide281202:11:33.720 --> 02:11:36.760



or recognize let's just take the recognization of the Palestinian281302:11:36.800 --> 02:11:38.560



state that we just saw a bunch of European countries281402:11:38.600 --> 02:11:42.560



do how do you think that benefits the people in281502:11:42.600 --> 02:11:48.239



Gaza or West Bank. You're legitimizing their terrorist overlords, right,281602:11:48.319 --> 02:11:51.079



I mean, because we both agree that they're led by lunatics.281702:11:51.239 --> 02:11:53.600



I mean I think anyone that doesn't agree with that,281802:11:53.680 --> 02:11:55.960



I go, you are then an anti semi because if281902:11:56.000 --> 02:11:57.640



you don't think people that say they want to eliminate282002:11:57.640 --> 02:12:00.640



all Jews everywhere they are in the world, if you282102:12:00.640 --> 02:12:03.520



think they're okay to lead the country, you are legitimate.282202:12:03.680 --> 02:12:06.840



You're legitimizing Hamas. And they're trying to say, yeah, but282302:12:06.880 --> 02:12:09.960



Hamas has to go, Well, you're but they're they're in282402:12:09.960 --> 02:12:11.720



the state right now, you know what I mean? Like,282502:12:11.800 --> 02:12:14.920



so you've got to say we want there to be282602:12:14.960 --> 02:12:17.039



a Palestinian state. I have no problem with saying that.282702:12:17.079 --> 02:12:18.720



I have no problem with people saying there should be282802:12:18.720 --> 02:12:20.880



two state solutions whatever. There's all the solutions that are282902:12:20.880 --> 02:12:23.279



out there, and I would love to see the Palestinian283002:12:23.279 --> 02:12:26.399



people raise up and say they don't they aren't gonna283102:12:26.399 --> 02:12:29.479



take this from Hamas anymore, but they're not very capable283202:12:29.479 --> 02:12:31.239



of doing it. And then you also just look at283302:12:31.520 --> 02:12:33.800



this is not an Arab versus Jew thing either, because283402:12:33.800 --> 02:12:36.239



people are always like, oh, Israel's blocking blah blah blah.283502:12:36.319 --> 02:12:38.439



I'm like, okay, you know they share a border with283602:12:38.479 --> 02:12:42.560



Egypt too, Why is Egypt close their border. It's because283702:12:42.680 --> 02:12:45.359



they're scared of Hamas and they're scared of terrorist attack283802:12:45.399 --> 02:12:48.279



happening on their area. And they've been through this, right,283902:12:48.560 --> 02:12:50.680



And so I go, okay, this is not as simple284002:12:50.720 --> 02:12:55.039



as Jew versus Arab because this is Egypt, Arab majority Gaza,284102:12:55.079 --> 02:12:58.319



and they in Egypt doesn't trust Hamas or or Gazans.284202:12:59.399 --> 02:13:01.720



It's so so much more complicated, and I just find284302:13:01.760 --> 02:13:04.680



that there's almost nowhere having a nuanced conversation about it.284402:13:04.720 --> 02:13:07.600



I do not think Israel has done everything right. It284502:13:07.640 --> 02:13:10.119



would be impossible for anyone to in any kind of284602:13:10.119 --> 02:13:12.560



war situation. No one has. We didn't do it right.284702:13:12.640 --> 02:13:14.439



But the thing I point to all the time is284802:13:14.479 --> 02:13:17.279



that when you look at the civilian to combat ratio284902:13:17.840 --> 02:13:22.159



of killings in Gaza, specifically this entire time for almost285002:13:22.199 --> 02:13:24.880



two years now, it's like one point five to one,285102:13:25.520 --> 02:13:28.279



like ours was like nine to one in Afghanistan or285202:13:28.279 --> 02:13:32.880



something in Iraq and stuff. It's unheard of in urban warfare.285302:13:32.920 --> 02:13:36.279



It's literally something that militarys are studying because they're like,285402:13:36.399 --> 02:13:39.399



how did you pull this off? They've dropped more bombs285502:13:39.439 --> 02:13:42.479



than they've killed people in well, so does that mean285602:13:42.479 --> 02:13:45.359



they're bad shots? Like if you're trying to do a genocide,285702:13:45.359 --> 02:13:47.640



you could just kill everyone, like Israel has the power285802:13:47.680 --> 02:13:50.560



to do it. They're telegraphing their moods, they're dropping leaflets,285902:13:50.560 --> 02:13:53.079



they're they're announcing stuff. Part of the reason they've had286002:13:53.119 --> 02:13:56.079



the levels so much of the Gaza strip is because286102:13:56.760 --> 02:13:58.800



they will move people out of an area and then286202:13:58.840 --> 02:14:01.119



they go start searching house by house for tunnels and286302:14:01.159 --> 02:14:03.680



what they were finding is like bombs, Like they're rigged286402:14:03.680 --> 02:14:06.800



to kill. Well, so, do you think the ideas should286502:14:06.840 --> 02:14:10.359



send soldiers in to their death to search a place known.286602:14:10.399 --> 02:14:12.600



They're sending drones in now and once they see it286702:14:12.600 --> 02:14:14.680



trip wired up, they just blow the whole building. They286802:14:14.720 --> 02:14:17.560



literally just call in a missile. They blow the whole286902:14:17.600 --> 02:14:20.600



thing up because it's not worth losing more lives. But287002:14:20.600 --> 02:14:22.560



they've got to find Hamas, and so they're just blowing287102:14:22.720 --> 02:14:24.680



like that's why they're leveling buildings. They're not doing it287202:14:24.720 --> 02:14:27.479



for fund Seas. They're doing it because Hamas already rigged287302:14:27.520 --> 02:14:30.800



the buildings to blow if they walk into them. They're287402:14:30.840 --> 02:14:33.880



booby driving stuff. Hamas has committed every war crime there is,287502:14:34.319 --> 02:14:35.720



and yet no one talks about them.287602:14:35.840 --> 02:14:39.399



You've also got a situation where you have a captured people,287702:14:40.479 --> 02:14:45.239



so southern border Egypt doesn't want them, right, no other287802:14:45.439 --> 02:14:49.000



nation their nation state will take Palestinian.287902:14:48.399 --> 02:14:50.239



Refugees, no other Arab country will.288002:14:50.560 --> 02:14:55.000



And yet you can't go in and conduct your insurgencies288102:14:55.039 --> 02:14:59.520



to take out and target Hamas. So the only criticism288202:14:59.520 --> 02:15:02.560



maybe is well, how come Israel can't filter through the288302:15:02.600 --> 02:15:04.439



people who are not amass and good people?288402:15:04.479 --> 02:15:08.399



And you knows is making that very very hard. They're288502:15:08.479 --> 02:15:10.800



hiding amongst those people at every creed.288602:15:11.520 --> 02:15:15.279



So you've got all these Arab nations not wanted to288702:15:15.319 --> 02:15:17.640



take them in. And then the other thing that has288802:15:17.680 --> 02:15:20.680



been so ignored and convoluted and a bunch of bullshit288902:15:20.840 --> 02:15:22.600



is everyone's talking about the history of the land that289002:15:22.680 --> 02:15:26.960



goes back and it's always been Palestinian, which is like289102:15:27.000 --> 02:15:30.239



I've had so many conversations with various people on this blake,289202:15:30.279 --> 02:15:33.399



and it's it's just it's tiring, it really is.289302:15:33.560 --> 02:15:39.079



Yeah, But I mean I again, you go, okay, the yeah,289402:15:39.640 --> 02:15:44.199



I'll forgive the ignorance for people that aren't Christian or Jewish,289502:15:44.359 --> 02:15:47.520



but I find it hard to believe that they don't289602:15:47.600 --> 02:15:50.479



know that history of the Jews, not just like the289702:15:50.520 --> 02:15:52.479



history of the ancient Bible stuff like I mean, these289802:15:52.479 --> 02:15:54.159



guys were slaves in Egypt and stuff like that, and289902:15:54.199 --> 02:15:55.800



it's a promise land. And even if you don't want290002:15:55.840 --> 02:15:59.319



to buy that stuff, I mean, there's historical accuracy to290102:15:59.479 --> 02:16:02.399



that that you know, you have to believe some of it.290202:16:02.680 --> 02:16:04.439



And then but like, like, okay, we don't have to290302:16:04.439 --> 02:16:06.399



go back three thousand years. We can go back to290402:16:06.399 --> 02:16:09.079



the nineteen thirties where they were ran out of every290502:16:09.079 --> 02:16:12.960



European country. And so I go, okay, where do you290602:16:13.000 --> 02:16:16.640



want to do, and I go, has Israel ever started290702:16:16.640 --> 02:16:17.840



a conflict?290802:16:18.279 --> 02:16:21.479



No, they have not. You even go before third nineteen,290902:16:21.520 --> 02:16:23.359



there's go to what nineteen seventeen?291002:16:24.199 --> 02:16:26.079



Right, yeah, but I mean Israel's not a nation till291102:16:26.119 --> 02:16:28.520



nineteen thirty seven, so you like what I mean, a291202:16:28.800 --> 02:16:29.560



state or something.291302:16:29.560 --> 02:16:32.719



But yeah, as far as the people that became displaced, yes,291402:16:33.040 --> 02:16:35.920



Ottoman Empire, and then the people who claim to be291502:16:35.959 --> 02:16:38.959



Palestinians of the land and have heritage were people who291602:16:39.040 --> 02:16:42.120



sided with the Ottoman Empire to help them push out291702:16:42.200 --> 02:16:45.360



the Jewish people who became displaced. All there was always291802:16:45.360 --> 02:16:48.680



a Jewish presence. So I pretty sure it sounds like291902:16:48.719 --> 02:16:51.079



you and I know enough on this, and you can292002:16:51.120 --> 02:16:53.799



even go back further the tribes of Judah that became292102:16:54.239 --> 02:16:58.040



the Jewish people, even going further than that, you know.292202:16:58.000 --> 02:17:01.520



And also show me any tear in the entire world292302:17:01.719 --> 02:17:03.920



that has been the same group of people the entire time. Oh,292402:17:04.200 --> 02:17:07.159



you can't even find one that's lasted for thousands of years.292502:17:07.280 --> 02:17:11.399



I mean, like the China's fighting with people about their land.292602:17:11.440 --> 02:17:13.440



I mean, like Russia is doing the same. Like this292702:17:13.479 --> 02:17:16.120



is a normal thing. It's not been normal for our lifetime.292802:17:16.120 --> 02:17:19.959



Because post World War Two, we said, no one is292902:17:20.000 --> 02:17:22.920



doing this conquest for territory anymore, and we're gonna make293002:17:22.920 --> 02:17:26.040



sure it doesn't happen. And not that it's not happened293102:17:26.079 --> 02:17:29.479



at all since then, but like you you don't get293202:17:29.520 --> 02:17:31.360



a Germany trying to take over the world. You don't293302:17:31.360 --> 02:17:33.399



get like that kind of thing happening since then. And293402:17:33.479 --> 02:17:39.040



what people forget is that in every every war, the aggressor,293502:17:39.559 --> 02:17:41.479



if they go in and try to fight someone and293602:17:41.520 --> 02:17:46.520



they lose that war, territory is almost always something they293702:17:46.559 --> 02:17:48.879



have to give up. And Germany had to do it293802:17:48.920 --> 02:17:51.840



for a while. I mean, like obviously the Soviet Union293902:17:52.079 --> 02:17:53.719



had to break up, even though that's not even like294002:17:53.959 --> 02:17:57.040



the lost the they lost the Cold War or whatever,294102:17:57.079 --> 02:17:59.360



but Germany had to do it. You know, you had294202:17:59.399 --> 02:18:01.360



a split thing at Berlin Wall and all that kind294302:18:01.360 --> 02:18:04.799



of stuff. Japan had to, you know, relegate a lot294402:18:04.799 --> 02:18:06.280



of power and stuff like that, and we said we're294502:18:06.280 --> 02:18:09.200



gonna build these nations back up. We didn't have to294602:18:09.200 --> 02:18:11.239



do that, like we were the exception to the rule.294702:18:11.399 --> 02:18:12.799



Most of the time, when you win a war, you294802:18:12.840 --> 02:18:15.600



just go like you're ours now, Like that's what happens294902:18:15.639 --> 02:18:17.600



when you get attacked and then you win that war?295002:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.040



Is that you And that's what is like all of295102:18:20.079 --> 02:18:23.520



the territory Israel has ever taken or expanded has been295202:18:23.600 --> 02:18:26.559



after they were attacked by not normally even just one nation.295302:18:26.760 --> 02:18:29.920



It was like multiple nations around them, and they win295402:18:30.000 --> 02:18:33.040



the war and then they go, Yeah, the consequence for295502:18:33.079 --> 02:18:36.719



that is you know, like that should there should be295602:18:36.840 --> 02:18:39.399



get Like we talked about gun violence, there should be295702:18:39.440 --> 02:18:44.000



consequences for invading another country. I hope that Russia has295802:18:44.040 --> 02:18:46.319



consequences for having done it. I think they already have295902:18:46.399 --> 02:18:48.040



some in just the amount of people that have been296002:18:48.040 --> 02:18:52.959



wounded or killed, will you know, And so there there296102:18:53.000 --> 02:18:56.319



are consequences to starting a war. And for some reason,296202:18:56.639 --> 02:18:59.000



and I think it's anti Semitism, none of those rules296302:18:59.000 --> 02:19:00.680



apply to Israel. So we have we apply at different296402:19:00.680 --> 02:19:02.600



standard Israel than we do to every other country in296502:19:02.600 --> 02:19:05.000



the world, any other country they got attacked. I don't296602:19:05.000 --> 02:19:09.239



believe for a second if cartels in Mexico. Let's just296702:19:09.280 --> 02:19:12.040



pretend the cartels totally had control of Mexico. I mean,296802:19:12.040 --> 02:19:15.079



I think that's not that far off. Okay, yeah, say,296902:19:15.079 --> 02:19:16.879



I'm not sure how much that's pretended. But like they297002:19:16.879 --> 02:19:19.959



don't have a Hamas level of control over stuff. But297102:19:20.040 --> 02:19:21.920



let's just pretend they did and they came across our297202:19:21.920 --> 02:19:24.239



border and murdered I think the math would be thirty297302:19:24.280 --> 02:19:26.000



thousand people in Texas.297402:19:26.360 --> 02:19:28.239



Like, if you're looking proportionally.297502:19:28.639 --> 02:19:31.159



You do you really think that, like anyone would blame297602:19:31.280 --> 02:19:35.239



us for going into Mexico and just bombing the absolute297702:19:35.920 --> 02:19:38.760



crap out of the cartels. No, I mean, no one.297802:19:39.239 --> 02:19:41.920



We've already proven what we would do if we can297902:19:42.239 --> 02:19:43.520



we were Yeah, world War.298002:19:43.520 --> 02:19:45.559



Two, that's what happens. We get bombed in Japan, and298102:19:45.559 --> 02:19:49.879



that's even relatively small smaller number than got killed of298202:19:50.840 --> 02:19:52.319



Israel's population on October.298302:19:52.600 --> 02:19:54.559



So the thing is what the Middle East has been298402:19:54.600 --> 02:19:58.360



in constant conflict forever, all over or well not over,298502:19:58.399 --> 02:20:03.399



but under the guys of control of a holy land298602:20:03.639 --> 02:20:05.879



or under the guys of religion. That's what it's always298702:20:05.879 --> 02:20:10.719



been about. Yeah, but today's conflicts if if we're looking,298802:20:10.760 --> 02:20:16.600



we're looking at extreme extremist Islamist or extreme Islamist or298902:20:16.879 --> 02:20:21.680



using their religion of Islam, not even not even the299002:20:21.719 --> 02:20:24.719



true faith. They're they're using the extreme side of that299102:20:24.840 --> 02:20:29.200



to try to gain support, subjugate people, and all they299202:20:29.200 --> 02:20:33.959



really are doing is using it to be vicious dictorial rulers, authoritarians.299302:20:34.000 --> 02:20:36.520



I mean, that's all they want is power and money.299402:20:36.600 --> 02:20:39.360



And that's even some other religious aspect, that's even between299502:20:39.479 --> 02:20:44.639



different versions of those Islamic express you know. And and299602:20:44.719 --> 02:20:47.239



so now I have more hope about the Middle East299702:20:47.280 --> 02:20:49.040



than I have in a while, in a sense that299802:20:49.360 --> 02:20:51.200



like I'm going to give Donald Trump the credit in299902:20:51.280 --> 02:20:55.479



that the AVERYM records were like a legitimately legitimate thing300002:20:55.479 --> 02:20:58.159



I did not think was possible. And I think what300102:20:58.840 --> 02:21:01.959



has slowly happened is that more Arab countries don't want300202:21:01.959 --> 02:21:07.200



to be, you know, in the like constantly turmoil of300302:21:07.239 --> 02:21:09.319



the Middle East. I think they realize, like they're like300402:21:09.559 --> 02:21:14.159



economic there are economic benefits to not allowing terrorism to300502:21:14.200 --> 02:21:16.920



happen and to protecting your people and let people flourish.300602:21:17.000 --> 02:21:21.159



And you're slowly starting to see more people disassociate from Iran.300702:21:21.239 --> 02:21:23.559



Iran is obviously the gigantic thing that we've not even300802:21:23.600 --> 02:21:26.879



we've never mentioned Iran. But Iran is absolutely stoking all300902:21:26.920 --> 02:21:29.079



of this, like they support them off, they smart.301002:21:29.360 --> 02:21:32.440



They like I know, they use they fund all these301102:21:32.440 --> 02:21:34.559



serist organizations and use them as their proxy so that301202:21:34.600 --> 02:21:37.559



they are not directly involved and say, hey, you know301302:21:37.600 --> 02:21:39.360



it wasn't me, we didn't do it.301402:21:40.319 --> 02:21:42.559



But I think like the combination of the Abraham Accords301502:21:42.600 --> 02:21:44.360



that had a few nations come on this and start301602:21:44.360 --> 02:21:46.360



supporting it. And then you see during this conflict, you301702:21:46.399 --> 02:21:50.000



see nations like Jordan and stuff like swatting missiles and301802:21:50.120 --> 02:21:52.040



drones out of the air because they're in their airspace301902:21:52.040 --> 02:21:54.239



and they're like, hey, you're in ours airspace. They never302002:21:54.280 --> 02:21:57.120



they would have done that twenty years ago. So I302102:21:57.159 --> 02:21:59.079



see that, and then I see more people like Egypt302202:21:59.159 --> 02:22:03.159



really like it's like I don't want The thing is,302302:22:03.159 --> 02:22:04.840



more and more people are wanting to be allies with302402:22:05.000 --> 02:22:06.840



Israel in the sense that like we want to trade,302502:22:07.840 --> 02:22:09.639



like we want to like we don't want this, Like302602:22:09.680 --> 02:22:12.479



you're seeing that happen more and more. Well, I think302702:22:12.520 --> 02:22:12.879



the thing.302802:22:13.319 --> 02:22:18.559



That is when when Israel when they launched that that302902:22:18.680 --> 02:22:22.280



attack to kill those five Hamas leaders right and guitar303002:22:23.719 --> 02:22:26.280



they were, Qatar was not happy about them invading their303102:22:26.280 --> 02:22:30.280



airspace and violating their sovereignty by doing that. But at303202:22:30.280 --> 02:22:33.360



the same time, after they had their emergency meeting, the303302:22:33.479 --> 02:22:37.639



Arab Islamis nations everybody was mad. They called on Donald303402:22:37.639 --> 02:22:39.760



Trump even saying, hey, you have leverage over Israel, can303502:22:39.799 --> 02:22:41.799



you please rein them in like, but none of them303602:22:41.840 --> 02:22:45.920



attacked Israel. I think on one side, they probably realized,303702:22:45.959 --> 02:22:48.719



like Hamas, Yes, is a problem. We need to find303802:22:48.719 --> 02:22:51.200



a solution. I think I think personally that a lot303902:22:51.239 --> 02:22:53.680



of the Arab nations that you were just speaking of,304002:22:53.879 --> 02:22:55.719



I think they want to modernize and move forward and304102:22:55.920 --> 02:22:58.559



are getting tired they do of being held back by304202:22:58.559 --> 02:23:02.680



this constant bickering bullshit. But they even have a hard304302:23:02.680 --> 02:23:06.479



time getting getting a handle on these extremists because like304402:23:06.520 --> 02:23:09.920



you're literally fighting some guerrilla warfare within their.304502:23:10.600 --> 02:23:13.000



And it's evil. Again. It's like people that are willing304602:23:13.040 --> 02:23:15.159



to it's very hard to stop people that are willing304702:23:15.159 --> 02:23:17.920



to kill themselves to kill other people. It's very hard304802:23:17.959 --> 02:23:18.399



to stop that.304902:23:18.479 --> 02:23:19.719



Fanatics. They're just fanatics.305002:23:19.760 --> 02:23:23.040



They're fanatics, and and so like that is the part305102:23:23.079 --> 02:23:25.479



where I go all of that. It's like I have305202:23:25.840 --> 02:23:27.319



more hope than I have in the sense that there's305302:23:27.360 --> 02:23:29.520



some more normalized relations. You look at, like no one305402:23:29.559 --> 02:23:32.040



defended Iran in any of this stuff. Iran didn't even305502:23:32.040 --> 02:23:35.000



really retaliate. They kind of like threw things is Reel's way.305602:23:35.000 --> 02:23:36.319



But they knew it wasn't gonna work.305702:23:36.520 --> 02:23:40.319



No, they knew. So so let's get back to the305802:23:40.360 --> 02:23:43.719



European nation. Let's just specifically Starmer and Macron. I like,305902:23:43.920 --> 02:23:46.680



what do you think of these people that are calling306002:23:46.760 --> 02:23:49.680



for this recognization of statehood? Now here's here's the thing306102:23:50.040 --> 02:23:52.200



you touched on a bit when when you were talking306202:23:52.239 --> 02:23:54.840



about recognizing them as a state. But the problem is306302:23:54.840 --> 02:23:57.639



if they if they do this, then now it literally306402:23:57.680 --> 02:24:02.440



becomes a conflict between legitimized recognized states or nations. Right,306502:24:02.840 --> 02:24:06.760



so now is it considered a legitimate war between two states?306602:24:07.319 --> 02:24:09.280



That's what I don't think they're thinking of the consequences306702:24:09.280 --> 02:24:10.760



of this. I don't think they I don't think they've306802:24:10.799 --> 02:24:12.399



really thought about what it means for them. I think306902:24:12.479 --> 02:24:14.920



it's virtue signaling, is what it is. Right, you mentioned307002:24:14.920 --> 02:24:17.920



that earlier, and it's basically like I'm signaling to And307102:24:17.959 --> 02:24:21.559



first of all, I have this conversation with lots of307202:24:21.600 --> 02:24:25.559



people fairly often because I think so much of it307302:24:25.600 --> 02:24:27.040



is anti Semitic, And like I said, I don't think307402:24:27.040 --> 02:24:29.120



most of the time they realize they're really being anti semitic.307502:24:29.200 --> 02:24:30.879



They just don't even understand what they're saying. They're just307602:24:30.959 --> 02:24:33.680



parroting what they heard. And I think it's understandable for307702:24:33.680 --> 02:24:37.200



people to be really upset about seeing people like civilians307802:24:37.200 --> 02:24:39.319



and kids dying, Like I think that that's a totally307902:24:39.360 --> 02:24:42.639



normal reaction to be outraged about it. I just don't308002:24:42.639 --> 02:24:45.120



feel like I felt the I just I feel like,308102:24:45.159 --> 02:24:49.680



specifically that October seventh didn't get the press coverage, that308202:24:51.760 --> 02:24:55.680



anything that the IDF does wrong be a mistake or308302:24:56.600 --> 02:24:59.440



bad behavior, Like I think both those things happen, and308402:24:59.479 --> 02:25:02.200



I don't see like what I saw after October seventh308502:25:02.280 --> 02:25:07.920



was a bunch of people cheering on women getting like308602:25:08.639 --> 02:25:12.879



raped and then murdered and doing it in front of308702:25:12.879 --> 02:25:15.440



their friends, and watching their friends die, and killing parents308802:25:15.440 --> 02:25:17.159



in front of kids and kids in front of parents.308902:25:17.440 --> 02:25:20.479



Like the barbarism of what Hamas did that day.309002:25:22.760 --> 02:25:23.559



Should have.309102:25:25.520 --> 02:25:27.399



Should have been the thing that like totally did them in.309202:25:27.600 --> 02:25:29.680



Now they knew what they were doing by pulling hostages in.309302:25:30.719 --> 02:25:32.559



They had this plan all along, They knew what the309402:25:32.719 --> 02:25:36.639



goal was is to entrench Israel into this long thing,309502:25:36.680 --> 02:25:39.479



because Israel will like look worse and worse the longer309602:25:39.520 --> 02:25:42.879



it goes on, and the and they control everything. They309702:25:42.920 --> 02:25:46.399



control the Ministry of Health, they control any any press309802:25:46.440 --> 02:25:49.440



in there is controlled by them. They don't let anyone in,309902:25:50.200 --> 02:25:52.000



so no one really knows what's going on. So it310002:25:52.159 --> 02:25:55.319



like and for whatever reason, our Western journalists choose to310102:25:55.319 --> 02:26:00.799



believe Hamas over anyone else. And and I think that310202:26:00.879 --> 02:26:02.440



speaks to the anti Semitism of it.310302:26:02.479 --> 02:26:09.040



Like I said, I can't better criticized for the response310402:26:09.120 --> 02:26:10.760



before they even responded, they were.310502:26:10.840 --> 02:26:13.280



Yeah, they weren't criticized for the response they were. People310602:26:13.280 --> 02:26:16.799



were cheering it on while while people were still being310702:26:16.920 --> 02:26:20.559



raped and murdered in Israel, while it was happening, and310802:26:20.559 --> 02:26:22.440



and cheering it on and going like this is what's310902:26:22.799 --> 02:26:25.200



turn it into oppressors versus oppressed. Again, that's a left311002:26:25.239 --> 02:26:29.680



problem is everything is about who's the victim and who's311102:26:29.760 --> 02:26:33.959



the who's the person victimizing, who's the oppressor, who's the oppressed,311202:26:34.680 --> 02:26:37.520



who is the settler, who is the like you know,311302:26:37.559 --> 02:26:40.479



they've turned this whole thing into like everyone's evil, America's evil.311402:26:40.520 --> 02:26:45.040



And again they've been indoctrinated to believe that anytime there's311502:26:45.079 --> 02:26:48.440



a power dynamic that's different, that the person that has311602:26:48.559 --> 02:26:50.920



more power is evil and the person has less power311702:26:51.000 --> 02:26:54.799



is good and that is just flawed. That that is311802:26:54.840 --> 02:27:00.399



not if someone's abusing their power, but like again the311902:27:01.319 --> 02:27:03.799



oppressor in this case, and so we excuse it, and312002:27:03.879 --> 02:27:06.399



they did. I mean, like you saw on college campuses,312102:27:06.440 --> 02:27:07.760



you saw on the progressive left.312202:27:07.799 --> 02:27:08.399



You saw a.312302:27:11.040 --> 02:27:15.879



Celebration, not just like a I think sometimes people have312402:27:15.959 --> 02:27:18.799



to be violent to get rid of their oppressor. It312502:27:18.840 --> 02:27:22.280



was like a celebration. And I just go when you're312602:27:22.360 --> 02:27:27.120



when it's always Jews that you're celebrating dying, there's a problem,312702:27:28.079 --> 02:27:31.479



you know, like you're not calling out China's oppression of Wigers,312802:27:31.559 --> 02:27:33.479



You're not calling out like you know.312902:27:34.120 --> 02:27:35.879



You're thinking a lot of what I'm already thinking one313002:27:35.920 --> 02:27:36.959



before I say it's fun.313102:27:37.040 --> 02:27:39.239



Right, there are actual genocides happening all over the world,313202:27:39.280 --> 02:27:41.440



and yet the one we talk about is the alleged313302:27:41.479 --> 02:27:43.920



one that Israel is like they're the worst at genocide313402:27:44.079 --> 02:27:46.360



anyone's ever been. Well, if they're trying to kill all313502:27:46.360 --> 02:27:48.840



the Palestinians, because they could drop one bomb tomorrow and before.313602:27:48.559 --> 02:27:50.520



Well they could. But let's talk about two things. First,313702:27:50.680 --> 02:27:53.319



let's go back a statement from River to see you. Yeah,313802:27:53.399 --> 02:27:56.360



I find it ironic that people are criticizing Israel for313902:27:56.719 --> 02:28:01.280



genociding people when they literally could do it within seven314002:28:01.319 --> 02:28:04.920



to ten days now. From the River to the Sea314102:28:05.040 --> 02:28:09.200



literally means genociding Jews, like getting rid of them all.314202:28:09.319 --> 02:28:12.840



And Amasa has literally said like you, like you stated314302:28:12.879 --> 02:28:15.719



earlier that they want to eliminate all Jews here.314402:28:15.680 --> 02:28:18.920



Everywhere in the world, not just in the links. They314502:28:18.959 --> 02:28:21.360



should document like all of them. We want them eradicate it.314602:28:21.399 --> 02:28:23.600



And I think it's really important that people understand that,314702:28:23.879 --> 02:28:25.879



because I don't think that that is being The New314802:28:25.920 --> 02:28:27.360



York Times does not mention that.314902:28:27.520 --> 02:28:30.520



Let's let's let's let's talk about this other situation about315002:28:30.559 --> 02:28:35.319



recognizing the Palestinian statehood. Now we have we have an315102:28:35.360 --> 02:28:36.760



issue in the or they have an issue in the315202:28:36.879 --> 02:28:40.760



UK with mass immigration of people that are unchecked and unvetted.315302:28:41.760 --> 02:28:43.920



You just saw what happened. I was here today or315402:28:44.000 --> 02:28:48.319



yesterday in Italy right that uprising and riot over the315502:28:48.360 --> 02:28:53.159



Italian government not wanting to recognize the Palestinian state. So315602:28:53.159 --> 02:28:56.319



they had this giant riot with everybody on the streets315702:28:56.360 --> 02:29:00.319



holding Palestinian flags. The UK is having these issues right now.315802:29:01.319 --> 02:29:03.799



France has always had an issue with all of US.315902:29:03.959 --> 02:29:05.559



So now if they're all going to recognize them, they316002:29:05.559 --> 02:29:08.799



already have all of these people who support Palestine who316102:29:08.799 --> 02:29:13.719



are obviously Arab from those regions. I'm sorry, but they316202:29:13.799 --> 02:29:16.479



just infiltrated you. And now that after you recognize the316302:29:16.479 --> 02:29:20.200



Palestine state, now they have even more of a reason316402:29:20.319 --> 02:29:23.639



to turn on you and claim your land for Palestine.316502:29:24.120 --> 02:29:27.120



And again I think it's a pay off.316602:29:26.920 --> 02:29:28.639



On that, but I kind of see it. I mean,316702:29:28.719 --> 02:29:31.120



it seems like this has been there's been a long316802:29:31.200 --> 02:29:33.600



term plan that's been put in place, and they have316902:29:33.799 --> 02:29:39.520



been using and actually doing for quite some time. Yeah.317002:29:40.040 --> 02:29:44.159



The thing is, I don't even think it's well, there's317102:29:44.440 --> 02:29:47.079



several things going on there the.317202:29:46.479 --> 02:29:48.440



There's a lot, There's a whole lot. Yeah, and it's317302:29:48.479 --> 02:29:50.040



not just about Palestine.317402:29:51.319 --> 02:29:55.959



So what's interesting about all of this is that I317502:29:55.959 --> 02:29:58.239



would put people in two different buckets. If you have317602:29:58.319 --> 02:30:03.520



fled to another country, like not saying great things about317702:30:03.520 --> 02:30:06.280



your country, probably you at least thought wherever you went to,317802:30:06.719 --> 02:30:08.719



like I said, a lot of refugee kind of situations.317902:30:08.760 --> 02:30:10.920



You got people from Syria, You've got people from all318002:30:10.959 --> 02:30:13.079



these war torn areas of the Middle East because of318102:30:13.120 --> 02:30:15.760



these conflicts that have been going on often between two318202:30:15.840 --> 02:30:20.600



different versions of Arabs. Right, Like what happened in Syria318302:30:20.879 --> 02:30:23.360



is like nothing to do with Jews, right it? Like318402:30:23.440 --> 02:30:26.159



it or like not nothing, because I mean obviously there's318502:30:26.200 --> 02:30:28.639



an American and I mean there's there's things, and that's318602:30:28.719 --> 02:30:31.319



and that's where that's where I can't get with the318702:30:31.399 --> 02:30:34.120



right and the left now that like everything is explained318802:30:34.120 --> 02:30:37.079



by Jews or nefariously controlling everything, you know, like that's318902:30:37.120 --> 02:30:40.079



just where everything goes eventually now And but like in319002:30:40.120 --> 02:30:42.399



those situations like Syria, you cannot blame the Jews for Syria.319102:30:42.399 --> 02:30:46.920



You cannot blame the Jews for Iraq, Iran, like any319202:30:46.959 --> 02:30:49.319



of these places where people are being legitimately oppressed by319302:30:49.360 --> 02:30:51.159



the people that are in power, that like really just319402:30:51.239 --> 02:30:53.079



do that so that they can oppress people, Like the319502:30:53.159 --> 02:30:56.520



goal is power and oppression and and money and all319602:30:56.600 --> 02:30:58.360



the things that go along with it, or just religious319702:30:58.360 --> 02:31:00.719



fervor whatever it might be. But these people have fled319802:31:00.760 --> 02:31:03.760



those places to go to other countries. And I would319902:31:03.799 --> 02:31:05.680



be willing to bet I've not seen any polls that320002:31:05.760 --> 02:31:07.879



say this, but I'd be willing to bet most of320102:31:07.920 --> 02:31:12.959



them are not immediately in a situation where they feel320202:31:13.000 --> 02:31:15.000



like they're going to defend their home country that they320302:31:15.079 --> 02:31:18.399



fled and be against the country that has accepted them, right,320402:31:18.440 --> 02:31:20.479



I would just think that for the most part, that's320502:31:20.479 --> 02:31:21.479



not how it's going to work. I'm not going to320602:31:21.520 --> 02:31:24.360



say they're going to like but what I think happens320702:31:24.440 --> 02:31:28.159



is that there are bad seeds in those groups of people,320802:31:28.280 --> 02:31:29.840



just like everyone else. I don't think it's all of them.320902:31:29.879 --> 02:31:31.360



I don't even know if it's a high percentage of it.321002:31:31.399 --> 02:31:32.959



I don't know the numbers, but I do know that321102:31:33.000 --> 02:31:36.639



like in Britain, there have been a bunch of gang321202:31:36.719 --> 02:31:42.239



rapes essentially by like refugees from specifically, like.321302:31:44.319 --> 02:31:47.479



A lot of it isiable.321402:31:47.840 --> 02:31:50.719



And then what happens is that, like the there's been321502:31:51.000 --> 02:31:53.639



massive covers the covers of that because like the politicians321602:31:53.639 --> 02:31:56.200



can't talk about it, and it's not for fear of321702:31:56.200 --> 02:32:00.520



being attacked necessarily from those communities. It's from being called321802:32:00.600 --> 02:32:04.120



racist by the sort of what And so to me,321902:32:04.239 --> 02:32:06.840



it's like they're capitulating to there's a bunch of people322002:32:06.840 --> 02:32:11.360



defending a group of people unnecessarily because they're worried it's322102:32:11.479 --> 02:32:14.319



racist to call out rapist. Doesn't matter what their skin322202:32:14.319 --> 02:32:17.840



color is and to me, that's the rape thing specifically,322302:32:18.000 --> 02:32:20.920



is like such a thing where it's like similar to322402:32:21.000 --> 02:32:23.719



the Palestinian statehood kind of thing in the sense there's322502:32:23.799 --> 02:32:27.079



pressure to do that. But like that's such a good322602:32:27.079 --> 02:32:29.760



example of like we've got verifile evidence that, like the322702:32:29.799 --> 02:32:33.760



police didn't pursue it, politicians didn't pursue it. Newspapers tried322802:32:33.760 --> 02:32:36.159



to cover it up and pretend it wasn't happening, because322902:32:36.159 --> 02:32:40.000



everyone was so scared of being called racist, right, and323002:32:40.360 --> 02:32:42.920



that's really where the pressure came from, like from my323102:32:43.040 --> 02:32:46.399



understanding of it, and maybe that was coming from those communities,323202:32:46.440 --> 02:32:50.000



but it doesn't seem like that Like electorally that doesn't323302:32:50.000 --> 02:32:52.239



work out. They're not a majority, Like they can cause323402:32:52.280 --> 02:32:54.280



a bunch of noise and stuff, but it's that there's323502:32:54.319 --> 02:32:57.159



a bunch of Britons and there's a bunch of French people,323602:32:57.159 --> 02:32:59.559



and there's a bunch of Americans that are buying into323702:32:59.600 --> 02:33:03.840



that narrai. It's like I am related to people that323802:33:03.840 --> 02:33:06.520



that are that have bought into the anti Semitic stuff,323902:33:06.520 --> 02:33:09.760



and they're all in on the like essentially into Semitism324002:33:09.760 --> 02:33:12.280



of like from the to the Sea and Palestine are324102:33:12.280 --> 02:33:14.399



the good guys and the bad guys. Again, everything's black324202:33:14.399 --> 02:33:17.799



and white. And that's unfortunately because they're on TikTok and324302:33:17.799 --> 02:33:19.879



that's where they get their news, and and China has324402:33:19.879 --> 02:33:22.680



no interest in throwing pro Israel stuff in our address.324502:33:22.799 --> 02:33:27.639



Let's address something though. I agree with you, true refugees324602:33:28.520 --> 02:33:32.479



don't have a problem with Okay, what I'm seeing a324702:33:32.520 --> 02:33:38.879



problem with is there This is obviously to me organized324802:33:39.239 --> 02:33:41.200



because if you see what's going on in the UK.324902:33:41.760 --> 02:33:43.799



Some of it is Yeah, for sure, you are.325002:33:43.920 --> 02:33:49.079



You are seeing where now they're trying to push their there.325102:33:49.360 --> 02:33:51.559



It's not going to probably happen soon. I don't know,325202:33:51.680 --> 02:33:55.040



but sharial law in some areas you have complete communities325302:33:55.079 --> 02:33:58.920



that are completely just Muslim. You have Muslims that are325402:33:58.959 --> 02:34:02.040



in uh the becoming mayor is a becoming I don't.325502:34:02.079 --> 02:34:07.200



I'm not sure the complete political structre. But anyway they're in. Yeah,325602:34:07.200 --> 02:34:09.680



but but not just not just that, but other other positions.325702:34:10.000 --> 02:34:12.680



They're pressuring the police. If you look at Ireland, the325802:34:12.719 --> 02:34:15.920



people of Ireland aren't very they're not very happy with325902:34:16.040 --> 02:34:17.280



what's been happening.326002:34:16.920 --> 02:34:18.360



And they're super into Semitic.326102:34:18.399 --> 02:34:21.239



Now, if this this is my this is gonna be326202:34:21.319 --> 02:34:25.399



my point, Like, if it was all about refugees and326302:34:25.479 --> 02:34:29.559



it wasn't about some kind of planned operation with Palestine,326402:34:29.879 --> 02:34:32.799



then why aren't these refugees going there and standing up326502:34:32.840 --> 02:34:38.639



for a free democratic Syriah. No one's going and saying326602:34:38.680 --> 02:34:41.200



I want to free democratic Somalia, I want a free326702:34:41.239 --> 02:34:44.600



democratic Syria, or you know, whatever it is. It's all326802:34:44.719 --> 02:34:47.799



free Palestine. It's all Palestine, Palestine, Palestine.326902:34:49.440 --> 02:34:51.520



I think most of that is the anti Semitism, like327002:34:51.559 --> 02:34:54.319



I do like the it's is and I think that327102:34:54.360 --> 02:34:58.600



when you get to all those other conflicts, Israel is327202:34:58.639 --> 02:35:01.239



not the primary, like one of two sides on it.327302:35:01.520 --> 02:35:03.559



And so it just like they can't blame like the327402:35:03.600 --> 02:35:05.239



Jews are going to get blamed for everything if they327502:35:05.280 --> 02:35:07.440



can get blamed for it, and so you can't blame327602:35:07.479 --> 02:35:10.600



them for Syria. You can't blame them for Afghanistan. You can't.327702:35:10.600 --> 02:35:12.079



But you know what I mean, Like it's like you327802:35:12.079 --> 02:35:15.879



can't and so it's just an inconvenient conversation at that.327902:35:15.959 --> 02:35:19.600



About the African refugees though that are that are from328002:35:19.639 --> 02:35:22.920



Islama States as well, there's much pretty far removed from328102:35:22.920 --> 02:35:23.520



that those.328202:35:23.319 --> 02:35:25.399



Conflicts, but it's sort of the same situation there. It's328302:35:25.440 --> 02:35:28.120



like most people are not talking about those conflicts like that.328402:35:28.120 --> 02:35:30.079



That is not something that gets brought up ever. To me,328502:35:30.440 --> 02:35:34.479



is like the some alience stuff or or or even328602:35:34.559 --> 02:35:38.559



like Pakistan India stuff, like unless it deals with Jews.328702:35:39.200 --> 02:35:42.000



And like I said, I go, okay, what's like you'd328802:35:42.000 --> 02:35:43.920



say it's a power dynamic? Well, how is that not328902:35:43.959 --> 02:35:46.520



with Indian and Pakistan? Like there's a power dynamic there too.329002:35:46.520 --> 02:35:48.799



India is much more powerful than Pakistan.329102:35:48.440 --> 02:35:51.239



Is like got a long history though those two countries.329202:35:50.920 --> 02:35:52.360



I know, And like that's the problem is that there's329302:35:52.399 --> 02:35:54.319



a lot there's a lot of history and all this stuff.329402:35:54.360 --> 02:35:57.600



I also just don't think it's realistic to have a329502:35:58.760 --> 02:36:01.399



I think it's a very rose or glasses and optimistic329602:36:01.440 --> 02:36:03.399



to think that like this is not something that humans329702:36:03.399 --> 02:36:09.399



are going to deal with always, like we fight over329802:36:09.440 --> 02:36:12.600



stupid stuff. It's like you look at like speaking of genocides,329902:36:12.600 --> 02:36:17.399



it's like uh Rwanda, you know, like that that was330002:36:17.719 --> 02:36:21.479



like they were trying to find a racial difference between330102:36:21.479 --> 02:36:23.319



each other and it was totally arbitrary and it was330202:36:23.360 --> 02:36:26.959



it was a genocide and and it's like, well that330302:36:26.959 --> 02:36:29.799



doesn't make any sense to us, and it's because humans330402:36:30.719 --> 02:36:34.280



are fallen and evil and like we will find the330502:36:34.319 --> 02:36:36.479



thing that makes a difference between us, and we will330602:36:36.520 --> 02:36:38.760



we will kill each other for it. And that Sometimes330702:36:38.760 --> 02:36:42.000



that's race, sometimes that's religion. Sometimes it's like we want330802:36:42.000 --> 02:36:45.959



that land and you've got it. Sometimes it's resources. Sometimes330902:36:46.040 --> 02:36:49.319



it is h just I think we need a we331002:36:49.399 --> 02:36:52.639



need an enemy, and so especially people in power have331102:36:52.680 --> 02:36:55.479



to do that. So like Hamas needs the Jews to331202:36:55.479 --> 02:36:58.840



be their enemy because otherwise they can't demand the control331302:36:59.159 --> 02:37:02.479



and the things they do. They're the they're not citizens.331402:37:02.520 --> 02:37:03.760



It's not the right way to say it, but like331502:37:03.799 --> 02:37:07.680



they're subjects essentially, and so I mean I think that's like,331602:37:08.959 --> 02:37:10.680



it's not that I don't think it's sincere. I do331702:37:10.719 --> 02:37:14.559



think Hamas legitimately hates Jews. I think that they've indoctrinated it.331802:37:14.600 --> 02:37:16.479



And it's like you've got, like I said, when you331902:37:16.520 --> 02:37:20.600



start doing that with kids at you know, from the332002:37:20.680 --> 02:37:23.520



youngest age, you're brainwashing them into thinking a group of332102:37:23.559 --> 02:37:26.479



people are evil based on their religion or where they332202:37:26.520 --> 02:37:29.200



live or whatever the situation is. And we're doing that332302:37:29.239 --> 02:37:32.120



in America with the indoctrination, the left indoctrination and stuff332402:37:32.120 --> 02:37:34.000



that you talked about. It's like you're telling kids from332502:37:34.000 --> 02:37:36.000



a very early age that America is a bad place.332602:37:36.159 --> 02:37:38.200



There's nothing to be proud of. If you're white, you332702:37:38.239 --> 02:37:40.600



are guilty of like you're like they were literally teachers332802:37:40.639 --> 02:37:43.120



during the whole blacks like matter of stuff that we're like, well,332902:37:43.440 --> 02:37:45.520



what about me, I'm mixed raced. Well you're an oppressor.333002:37:45.559 --> 02:37:48.159



If you've got any white in you, you're the bad guy. Well, like,333102:37:49.280 --> 02:37:50.879



what does that do to a kid when you tell333202:37:50.879 --> 02:37:52.520



them they're a bad person because of the color of333302:37:52.559 --> 02:37:55.520



their skin. Again, it's just like like that is that333402:37:55.559 --> 02:37:57.559



has happened throughout human history.333502:37:57.479 --> 02:38:02.200



But peop will continue. The Jews is is like you said,333602:38:02.520 --> 02:38:05.440



everyone says they control America and and they're the real333702:38:05.520 --> 02:38:08.520



reason why all of these conflicts are having around the world.333802:38:08.520 --> 02:38:10.920



But think about it. Are the Are the Jews or333902:38:11.000 --> 02:38:15.479



Israel behind the enslavement of Congolese and the Congo because334002:38:15.479 --> 02:38:18.120



of the cobalt mines right now? Are they responsible for334102:38:18.159 --> 02:38:20.920



what's going on as Somalia like you mentioned earlier. Are334202:38:20.920 --> 02:38:23.719



they responsible for what's happening between Pakistan and India which334302:38:23.760 --> 02:38:25.479



has been going on for years.334402:38:26.079 --> 02:38:28.959



I've had some conversations about this with people where I'm like, I'm.334502:38:28.799 --> 02:38:30.959



Gabo, what's going on in the Paul is that the Jews.334602:38:30.680 --> 02:38:36.239



Fault, right, But like, the thing is what I often334702:38:36.280 --> 02:38:38.879



get people to admit, especially if they're like very conspiratorial,334802:38:38.920 --> 02:38:40.399



and it's not that I think that there's no such334902:38:40.399 --> 02:38:44.079



thing as they're fun and like I'm like all about335002:38:44.120 --> 02:38:46.879



like look into it. But like once you buy into335102:38:47.000 --> 02:38:50.799



any conspiracy theory that says nefarious thing happened and it335202:38:50.840 --> 02:38:53.959



didn't happen the way we thought it happened, that there335302:38:54.000 --> 02:38:56.159



were a group of people that planned that thing to happen.335402:38:56.239 --> 02:38:59.639



So Oakham City bombing, nine to eleven, right, Iraq war,335502:39:00.040 --> 02:39:05.399



pick it, Pick any October seventh, like, pick anything, Charlie335602:39:05.440 --> 02:39:08.920



Kirk's assassination, Donald Trump's near assassination, anything where someone goes,335702:39:09.280 --> 02:39:11.239



this is not true. What really happened is there's a335802:39:11.239 --> 02:39:15.639



group of people that did this. So I start talking335902:39:15.680 --> 02:39:17.319



to these people, and what happens every time, And this336002:39:17.360 --> 02:39:19.440



is why I think it's really dangerous in America right now.336102:39:19.479 --> 02:39:22.159



But I think this happens everywhere. It's just that and336202:39:22.200 --> 02:39:25.520



the Jews have been the most popular end game of336302:39:25.559 --> 02:39:27.639



this because what happens is I had like a three336402:39:27.639 --> 02:39:29.239



hour conversation with the guy about nine to eleven on336502:39:29.319 --> 02:39:30.680



nine to eleven because it was it was fun. We336602:39:30.719 --> 02:39:33.399



went back and forth and stuff, and I'm generally interested.336702:39:33.440 --> 02:39:35.120



I'm like, I want to see why you think that336802:39:35.200 --> 02:39:37.799



this was an inside job. Tell give me the evidence.336902:39:38.000 --> 02:39:40.239



I'll rebut it with my evidence and stuff. And it337002:39:40.280 --> 02:39:42.799



was a great conversation. But in that conversation, what I337102:39:42.879 --> 02:39:44.639



kept going to is like, Okay, let's just say you're right,337202:39:45.120 --> 02:39:46.360



how many people do you think it would take to337302:39:46.399 --> 02:39:46.959



pull that off?337402:39:47.520 --> 02:39:48.000



Thousands?337502:39:48.079 --> 02:39:50.680



Right? Okay, so thousands of people kept a secret. Let's337602:39:50.719 --> 02:39:52.920



say that that's possible. I don't think it is. I337702:39:52.920 --> 02:39:54.760



think the government's very bad at everything they do. I337802:39:54.760 --> 02:39:57.120



find it very hard on the government could do that,337902:39:57.319 --> 02:40:00.520



right moon Landing. You think four hundred thousand people kept338002:40:00.559 --> 02:40:02.520



that a secret and Russia never wanted to find out338102:40:02.520 --> 02:40:04.159



and all these kind of things. Okay, So then I go, okay,338202:40:04.200 --> 02:40:06.840



so let's say that happened. Same thing with let's say338302:40:07.159 --> 02:40:09.360



the Jews killed Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, that338402:40:09.440 --> 02:40:11.879



was the most disgusting part about his memorial service is338502:40:11.920 --> 02:40:14.200



Tucker Carlson getting up there and blaming Jews for it338602:40:14.280 --> 02:40:18.399



in a wink wink, nudge nudge. Yeah. They The fact338702:40:18.399 --> 02:40:20.280



that they allowed him on stage is proof that it338802:40:20.280 --> 02:40:22.680



wasn't about Charlie Kirk because like he's been the one338902:40:22.719 --> 02:40:26.239



spouting these conspiracy theories that Eric his wife is it339002:40:26.280 --> 02:40:27.639



makes me furious anyway, The point.339102:40:27.479 --> 02:40:29.200



Is all between him and canisans man.339202:40:29.200 --> 02:40:30.920



I mean, right, so when you get on that role,339302:40:31.200 --> 02:40:33.559



if I say, okay, so that's true. Do those people339402:40:33.600 --> 02:40:35.000



control everything in our government?339502:40:35.120 --> 02:40:35.360



Yes?339602:40:35.479 --> 02:40:37.840



Okay, why is our government so bad at everything? The339702:40:37.879 --> 02:40:39.959



next place you go is, well, that's on purpose. They're339802:40:39.959 --> 02:40:42.239



the shadow government. They're really good at stuff, but they339902:40:42.399 --> 02:40:44.920



put people in apt their in appt they can't do stuff,340002:40:44.920 --> 02:40:46.959



so they can control them like puppets. Okay, let's say340102:40:46.959 --> 02:40:50.280



that's the case. So do you think those people also340202:40:50.280 --> 02:40:52.600



control Russia? Because wouldn't it be in Russia and China's340302:40:52.639 --> 02:40:55.680



interest to discover that George Bush did nine to eleven340402:40:55.840 --> 02:40:58.399



and then they would, like you know, they would send340502:40:58.479 --> 02:41:01.200



that everywhere, right, because that would be and then so340602:41:01.319 --> 02:41:03.840



then the next place someone goes is well, no, they340702:41:03.879 --> 02:41:07.000



probably to some degree. They control every country in the world.340802:41:07.799 --> 02:41:09.840



Once you get to that point, there's no one you340902:41:09.840 --> 02:41:12.600



can say that does that other than the Jews. I've341002:41:12.639 --> 02:41:15.079



never heard it explained as anyone else other than Jews.341102:41:15.399 --> 02:41:17.840



And like I said, all like you pull on any341202:41:17.879 --> 02:41:20.639



one of those threads that the world is flat, that341302:41:21.040 --> 02:41:23.639



nine to eleven was an inside job that Oklahoma City,341402:41:23.959 --> 02:41:25.719



And I said, I think all of these things. Sometimes341502:41:25.719 --> 02:41:28.440



we get a story that's not the entire story. Normally341602:41:28.479 --> 02:41:31.399



it's because governments are embarrassed about their failures. So I341702:41:31.440 --> 02:41:33.840



think that some of the Saudi stuff in nine to341802:41:33.840 --> 02:41:37.479



eleven is more better explained by probably having a conversation341902:41:37.520 --> 02:41:38.920



with them that goes like, we don't have an interest342002:41:38.920 --> 02:41:40.639



in going to war with you guys, but if you342102:41:41.280 --> 02:41:44.440



if you are even remotely involved in something similar to342202:41:44.440 --> 02:41:46.319



this again, we will absolutely blow you off the face342302:41:46.319 --> 02:41:49.000



of the earth. I think that probably happened Oka City bombing.342402:41:49.040 --> 02:41:50.600



We got too focused on one person. We didn't like342502:41:50.600 --> 02:41:52.159



to look at some of these other things. We didn't342602:41:52.159 --> 02:41:54.799



like to really talk about the white nationalist stuff that342702:41:54.879 --> 02:41:57.559



was going on that influenced him. We just said, like,342802:41:57.639 --> 02:41:59.760



we've got our guy, we've got the conviction. We don't342902:41:59.760 --> 02:42:01.879



want to bring in any sort of extra things. That343002:42:01.920 --> 02:42:05.079



are gonna maybe make prosecution hard. Law enforcement gets tunnel vision.343102:42:05.159 --> 02:42:07.319



There's mistakes that happen in all of these things. I'm343202:42:07.319 --> 02:42:09.920



not saying that, like the government is never lying to us.343302:42:10.000 --> 02:42:12.079



Government lies to us all the time, which is why343402:42:12.079 --> 02:42:14.719



I don't trust them. But anytime you start saying there's343502:42:14.719 --> 02:42:17.040



an nefarious group of people that control it, it always343602:42:17.120 --> 02:42:19.159



ends up being Jews. And then you star have to343702:42:19.200 --> 02:42:21.879



start going, Okay, so two point three percent of the343802:42:21.920 --> 02:42:26.159



country is Jewish and you think they control everything. You343902:42:26.159 --> 02:42:30.680



think they're tricking us into supporting Israel. You think they're344002:42:30.680 --> 02:42:33.040



tricking us into supporting Ukraine if you're on that side,344102:42:33.120 --> 02:42:35.559



or you think they're into Russia if you're on the344202:42:35.559 --> 02:42:38.440



other side. Like I said, Hitler blamed Jews for both344302:42:38.479 --> 02:42:40.040



communism and capitalism.344402:42:40.319 --> 02:42:43.280



And it's like even convenient escape though, just even bringing344502:42:43.280 --> 02:42:45.719



back to the Middle East, you're talking about like a344602:42:45.760 --> 02:42:48.479



dot on the map compared to I mean, how many344702:42:48.559 --> 02:42:55.159



Muslim countries? Was it sixty or seventy something? Is that correct? Oh?344802:42:55.159 --> 02:42:56.120



How many there are total?344902:42:56.360 --> 02:42:56.719



Yeah?345002:42:56.840 --> 02:42:57.799



Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.345102:42:57.879 --> 02:43:01.399



I think it was somewhere in that number serials. And345202:43:01.440 --> 02:43:04.079



you got Israel, right, and they're the problem.345302:43:04.639 --> 02:43:07.120



And by the way, it's not just about Jew versus Arab,345402:43:07.239 --> 02:43:10.639



it's also like democracy versus oh, I get it. There's345502:43:10.680 --> 02:43:12.639



all sorts of other things there, and there's.345602:43:12.319 --> 02:43:15.719



Using it as an example of like how how how345702:43:15.840 --> 02:43:17.879



was this small dot like the ire of the world345802:43:18.000 --> 02:43:18.879



like there, and they've.345902:43:18.639 --> 02:43:21.600



Got and they've goateed everyone into attacking them first so346002:43:21.639 --> 02:43:24.360



that they can fight back and win territory. Why would346102:43:24.360 --> 02:43:25.959



they not just attack people if they're just an the346202:43:25.959 --> 02:43:26.559



farious group.346302:43:26.760 --> 02:43:29.520



I've I've only had some issues with Israel to the346402:43:29.600 --> 02:43:32.520



point that there are times where I think that they're346502:43:32.559 --> 02:43:35.360



using the US as an excuse to do certain things,346602:43:35.680 --> 02:43:38.079



in my opinion, because you know, we're always backing them,346702:43:38.079 --> 02:43:41.000



and we are we are like right, they're standing behind them,346802:43:41.200 --> 02:43:43.440



you know. And one of the examples I've used was346902:43:43.440 --> 02:43:49.479



what they did with Qatar right recently. They would have347002:43:49.559 --> 02:43:52.479



never done that if if because they put the US347102:43:52.559 --> 02:43:53.879



in the middle. And this is where this is my347202:43:53.959 --> 02:43:58.040



only this is my criticism of Israel, not Jews, but Israel, and.347302:43:57.920 --> 02:44:00.120



It's and it's totally fair. You can Abs.347402:44:00.760 --> 02:44:02.920



Qatar is supposed to be one of our allies and347502:44:03.360 --> 02:44:05.639



they've been named one of our greatest allies that is347602:44:05.680 --> 02:44:07.719



not a NATO nation, not not like Israel.347702:44:08.079 --> 02:44:10.239



But they're playing both sides all the time. But we347802:44:10.319 --> 02:44:12.000



know that and it's part of it.347902:44:12.159 --> 02:44:15.799



The reality is they also host our largest military base348002:44:15.840 --> 02:44:19.159



in the Middle East. It is sent calm Israel does348102:44:19.200 --> 02:44:22.760



this piss is Qatar off guitar calls on the US348202:44:22.879 --> 02:44:24.959



or Donald Trump to reign in Israel see the situation.348302:44:25.120 --> 02:44:28.000



It's like, I get it. I get what Israel is doing,348402:44:28.040 --> 02:44:30.920



but like, did you did you think about, like what348502:44:31.000 --> 02:44:32.399



would happen if.348602:44:32.360 --> 02:44:35.280



Here's but here's what bothers. Well, it's kind of it's348702:44:35.280 --> 02:44:37.879



a double edged stort. I'm going I totally get what348802:44:37.879 --> 02:44:41.959



you're saying. Like they're they're like, because we've got their back,348902:44:42.000 --> 02:44:47.360



they're willing to do things that maybe they wouldn't otherwise. However, again,349002:44:47.399 --> 02:44:50.639



this is double edged sword. I think Donald Trump in349102:44:50.719 --> 02:44:54.879



Republicans in America has I think we've changed the course349202:44:55.040 --> 02:44:59.719



of the world for a very long time. You go349302:44:59.719 --> 02:45:02.000



back to World War Two and you basically said America349402:45:02.040 --> 02:45:05.559



was that country for eighty years. What we said went349502:45:05.760 --> 02:45:07.920



and we were maybe kind of bullies about it sometime,349602:45:08.159 --> 02:45:10.360



but like when we when someone was our ally, we349702:45:10.399 --> 02:45:13.079



defended them and when they were our enemy. And so349802:45:13.239 --> 02:45:16.200



like the point was people needed to be scared of349902:45:16.680 --> 02:45:20.600



America in not in a they didn't want to mess350002:45:20.600 --> 02:45:22.319



with us. Does that make sense? Like if we said350102:45:22.440 --> 02:45:25.760



we had someone's back, we generally proved that we had350202:45:25.799 --> 02:45:26.360



people's back.350302:45:26.440 --> 02:45:27.319



So the Golf War is a.350402:45:27.280 --> 02:45:29.559



Great example of that of saying like, no, we're not350502:45:29.600 --> 02:45:32.680



going to stand for that, and then they did it. Yeah,350602:45:32.719 --> 02:45:36.440



And and what I think we've squandered is now the350702:45:36.479 --> 02:45:40.680



whole world knows that we don't have like the people350802:45:40.719 --> 02:45:43.319



who we call our allies, we don't actually have their350902:45:43.319 --> 02:45:45.559



back most of the time. And so what I think351002:45:45.639 --> 02:45:48.760



really happened is I think Israel actually used to be351102:45:49.079 --> 02:45:54.879



more like clearing everything with the US, and then Joe Biden.351202:45:55.159 --> 02:45:57.079



I don't think it started just under Joe Biden, but351302:45:57.120 --> 02:45:59.200



I just know that, like October seventh happens. And so351402:45:59.440 --> 02:46:01.639



it's just it's a lot more in focus than it351502:46:01.680 --> 02:46:05.200



has been for a while. You know, he is dragging351602:46:05.200 --> 02:46:07.559



his feet on stuff, on a lot of things, and351702:46:07.600 --> 02:46:10.200



he's saying, don't do anything, don't go into Rafa, don't351802:46:10.239 --> 02:46:13.239



attack Hesbela, don't like and everything that he told them351902:46:13.280 --> 02:46:15.760



not to do, they did anyway, because I think that352002:46:15.799 --> 02:46:18.600



they saw that like it's our survival. It's not about352102:46:18.639 --> 02:46:21.159



like what will make the US happy. It's like these352202:46:21.159 --> 02:46:23.520



people are trying to eliminate us, and we're taught like352302:46:23.559 --> 02:46:26.079



we can't. We're not doing that anymore. And so in352402:46:26.120 --> 02:46:30.280



a way, it's almost like America's weakness allows Israel to352502:46:30.360 --> 02:46:34.079



do whatever they want now because like we can't rain352602:46:34.159 --> 02:46:36.600



them in. I mean, to some degree, maybe we can.352702:46:36.879 --> 02:46:38.680



But I think the problem is like we told them352802:46:38.760 --> 02:46:40.600



no on all that stuff, and if they would have352902:46:40.680 --> 02:46:43.680



listened to us, Iran would not be in the position353002:46:43.719 --> 02:46:46.280



they are Hesblah would not be almost eliminated. Hamas would353102:46:46.319 --> 02:46:49.000



not be in the position like even the Houthis. I mean,353202:46:49.040 --> 02:46:51.000



they've done a better job against the Huthies than we have,353302:46:51.159 --> 02:46:54.680



and they were attacking our ships. So in some ways,353402:46:54.719 --> 02:46:57.680



I think America went from being the people that were like, hey,353502:46:58.000 --> 02:47:01.840



we've got these people's back. You don't met don't test it,353602:47:02.000 --> 02:47:04.639



don't don't. But Obama says he puts a red line353702:47:04.639 --> 02:47:07.879



with Syria and lets him cross it, And I think353802:47:07.920 --> 02:47:12.040



slowly what Europe and everyone has realized is that America353902:47:12.120 --> 02:47:16.280



doesn't really have its allies backs, which is why I354002:47:16.319 --> 02:47:19.319



think Donald Trump just hopes it'll work out that they354102:47:19.319 --> 02:47:22.520



don't turn to other people. But they're like smaller countries354202:47:22.559 --> 02:47:24.920



have like they're gonna get pushed around by bigger countries354302:47:24.920 --> 02:47:27.840



and they're gonna have to capitulate to someone that's gonna354402:47:27.879 --> 02:47:31.360



be Rusher or China now and if they and in354502:47:31.440 --> 02:47:33.680



Europe doesn't trust us. By the way, speaking of JD Vance,354602:47:33.840 --> 02:47:36.680



is the next nominee, Like that Signal Chat proved more354702:47:36.719 --> 02:47:38.920



than anything that like that is the real JD. Vance.354802:47:38.959 --> 02:47:41.680



He actually hates Europe and doesn't want to do anything354902:47:41.719 --> 02:47:44.319



that could help them. That was a situation. Remember the355002:47:44.319 --> 02:47:46.840



whole signal Gate thing was about like he was just355102:47:46.879 --> 02:47:48.520



pissed that, like, oh, I just hate that we're bailing355202:47:48.559 --> 02:47:52.280



out Europe again. Once you know that that's true and355302:47:52.319 --> 02:47:55.520



that that is like a fact of the Republican Party,355402:47:55.959 --> 02:47:57.799



you are going to go, We've got a find for ourselves.355502:47:57.840 --> 02:48:00.280



And I think that what happens now is that really355602:48:00.360 --> 02:48:03.040



Israel has decided we are actually the only people that355702:48:03.079 --> 02:48:04.239



have our interest at heart.355802:48:04.760 --> 02:48:09.200



America doesn't I get you, I get you what I'm355902:48:09.520 --> 02:48:12.639



what I what I'm thinking is this, look Israel. I356002:48:12.639 --> 02:48:14.479



think Israel's a right to do whatever the hell they want,356102:48:15.399 --> 02:48:18.600



but that that certain situation is like when you're jeopardizing356202:48:19.000 --> 02:48:23.840



the largest military base in the area that the US356302:48:23.680 --> 02:48:26.319



that's ours, and then we're at the same time here356402:48:26.360 --> 02:48:31.120



to support you, kind of jeopardizes that right. And so356502:48:31.399 --> 02:48:34.319



I'm not saying in any other case like Israel couldn't356602:48:34.319 --> 02:48:37.719



do whatever they wanted, because we would noone tells us no.356702:48:38.120 --> 02:48:40.159



But now let's go to Europe. Though, what you're saying356802:48:40.200 --> 02:48:43.280



about what jade Van said, yes, wrong, should that should356902:48:43.319 --> 02:48:47.079



not have been made public. But a lot of that357002:48:47.479 --> 02:48:50.799



was driven by the sentiment that, hey, the US is357102:48:50.879 --> 02:48:53.399



paying into NATO and doing all of this, and we're357202:48:53.399 --> 02:48:56.559



getting called to help you out with the Russia Ukraine situations,357302:48:56.559 --> 02:48:58.760



Like at what point are you guys not going to357402:48:58.840 --> 02:49:00.760



stand up and do something?357502:49:00.879 --> 02:49:03.680



Yeah, we have essentially subsidized their welfare state.357602:49:03.799 --> 02:49:05.879



I think that's what I'm not saying is right, by357702:49:05.879 --> 02:49:07.280



the way, but I have that is true where a357802:49:07.280 --> 02:49:09.520



lot that came from that is true. Seventy five percent357902:49:09.680 --> 02:49:12.000



NATO was always paid by the United States of America.358002:49:12.040 --> 02:49:15.200



I don't know if it but yeah, well but here's358102:49:15.200 --> 02:49:15.799



the here's the word.358202:49:15.840 --> 02:49:20.000



The problem is the Russia. The Russian.358302:49:20.079 --> 02:49:22.200



First of all, we're the only country that NATO's ever358402:49:22.719 --> 02:49:25.280



the Article five thing of defending a NATO nation. The358502:49:25.280 --> 02:49:28.040



only country that's ever called for that is US. Yeah,358602:49:28.079 --> 02:49:31.200



for nine, we're the only ones. So we've never had358702:49:31.200 --> 02:49:33.920



to bail out any of those countries. Actually, now, we358802:49:33.920 --> 02:49:38.040



were actually hitting the budgetary what we all agreed we358902:49:38.040 --> 02:49:40.840



were going to do whatever it was two point five percent.359002:49:41.120 --> 02:49:44.120



I mean it's changed two point five yeah. Uh.359102:49:44.120 --> 02:49:45.559



There are a bunch of countries that said, we don't359202:49:45.600 --> 02:49:47.639



have to do that. We'd rather spend that on everyone359302:49:47.639 --> 02:49:50.079



having healthcare, and the US will just let us get359402:49:50.079 --> 02:49:52.680



away with that for forever. Donald Trump came and said no.359502:49:52.879 --> 02:49:54.760



And first of all, some of that started changing by359602:49:54.840 --> 02:49:57.680



him just making the threats of like we're not gonna359702:49:57.719 --> 02:50:00.319



have your back now. I don't love his style, but359802:50:00.559 --> 02:50:03.159



some of it worked, you know. But what really worked359902:50:03.159 --> 02:50:06.680



was Russia invading Ukraine. Like you know, Poland's doing like360002:50:06.760 --> 02:50:09.680



seven percent now because you know they're not like this360102:50:09.719 --> 02:50:11.120



is not a drill anymore.360202:50:11.280 --> 02:50:15.399



They're going like around on there, I'll tell you at all.360302:50:15.280 --> 02:50:17.840



And and and so what it took was of the360402:50:17.879 --> 02:50:23.600



real world events of Russia invading another European country to realize,360502:50:23.719 --> 02:50:27.120



oh yeah, we've seen this before, we know where this goes,360602:50:27.239 --> 02:50:31.239



and and and everyone not stop and everyone stepped it up.360702:50:31.280 --> 02:50:33.280



So as far as I know, there is no European360802:50:33.280 --> 02:50:36.520



country that's not going well beyond two point five percent.360902:50:36.879 --> 02:50:40.440



But Germany is now talking about doing but stuff.361002:50:40.559 --> 02:50:42.719



Right like that, Maybe now that wasn't the case before,361102:50:42.920 --> 02:50:45.040



right right that that that was the thing. And I361202:50:45.079 --> 02:50:48.600



think that's what led to why Jdvance said, I'm not361302:50:48.639 --> 02:50:51.600



I'm not excusing you, you know, right, but look here361402:50:51.639 --> 02:50:54.799



the vice president of the United States. But at the361502:50:54.840 --> 02:50:58.280



same time, everybody in America felt that way.361602:50:58.600 --> 02:51:01.520



But why not take the advantage of the win of saying, like,361702:51:01.680 --> 02:51:04.879



thank you all for getting on board. It sucks that361802:51:04.920 --> 02:51:06.520



I've been telling you this for years and it took361902:51:06.600 --> 02:51:11.000



Russia invading a neighboring you know what I mean, That's362002:51:11.000 --> 02:51:13.479



what I'm saying, Like that was said, yeah, but I362102:51:13.520 --> 02:51:16.479



mean I think it needed to be more like like,362202:51:16.559 --> 02:51:18.920



I'm all for the carrot and stick stuff. I'm all362302:51:18.920 --> 02:51:22.719



for saying, like I said, throwing our weight around, Like362402:51:22.799 --> 02:51:25.959



I think the world is a better place when America362502:51:26.000 --> 02:51:27.680



throws it to weight around for the right things, for362602:51:27.760 --> 02:51:31.879



democracies and for the things we believe in. Uh because362702:51:31.920 --> 02:51:34.479



I think for the most part, historically they've been the362802:51:34.559 --> 02:51:36.200



right things. I think free speech is the right thing.362902:51:36.239 --> 02:51:38.520



I think jd Vance was correct to go over there363002:51:38.520 --> 02:51:41.159



and call out all the European countries for their like363102:51:41.799 --> 02:51:45.360



incredibly illiberal views on speech. Now, I think I have363202:51:45.479 --> 02:51:47.520



no problem with that, But I also think you could363302:51:47.520 --> 02:51:49.920



be like I would have done that speech differently. What363402:51:49.920 --> 02:51:51.440



I would have said is like, we've been harping on363502:51:51.479 --> 02:51:54.040



you guys for years to spend the appropriate military budgets363602:51:54.040 --> 02:51:56.079



that you agreed to so that we'd have your back,363702:51:56.120 --> 02:51:57.719



and we appreciate that you had our back. After nine363802:51:57.719 --> 02:52:00.440



to eleven, it took Russia invading Ukraine for you to363902:52:00.479 --> 02:52:02.159



realize that you need to get your act togethers and364002:52:02.200 --> 02:52:04.319



thank you for doing that. Now i'd like you to364102:52:04.360 --> 02:52:06.120



do that with free speech too, Like, I don't think364202:52:06.120 --> 02:52:08.319



you realize how dangerous this road is you're going down.364302:52:08.360 --> 02:52:10.159



But the truth is Jade Vance doesn't actually care about364402:52:10.159 --> 02:52:12.520



free speech. He makes that speech, but then he's not364502:52:12.520 --> 02:52:17.120



saying anything about the Trump administration trying to stop speech,364602:52:17.159 --> 02:52:20.120



and so it just feels insincere to me. I think364702:52:20.120 --> 02:52:22.520



America's best when we're throwing our weight around, but in364802:52:22.559 --> 02:52:25.920



a way that says, this is better for everyone if364902:52:25.920 --> 02:52:30.360



we all the reason NATO went eighty years without I365002:52:30.399 --> 02:52:32.399



mean until nine to eleven, which wasn't even attack from365102:52:32.399 --> 02:52:35.799



another country. It's a terrorist organization, you know, It's something365202:52:35.840 --> 02:52:39.840



we couldn't have dreamed up in nineteen forty five. But like,365302:52:39.879 --> 02:52:42.959



when that happens, we're the ones that get go, hey,365402:52:43.079 --> 02:52:46.159



come come join U, join us, and like, but also365502:52:47.079 --> 02:52:48.760



I don't believe for a second we wouldn't have had365602:52:48.799 --> 02:52:50.680



any of those people's backs if it would have happened too,365702:52:50.680 --> 02:52:52.520



which is why I think we prevented a World War365802:52:52.559 --> 02:52:53.319



three from happening.365902:52:53.440 --> 02:52:55.399



I think in the end, I think, in the end,366002:52:55.399 --> 02:53:01.079



if this situation with Russia really pops off, I think366102:53:01.120 --> 02:53:03.520



we will have their back, you know, I know, I366202:53:03.559 --> 02:53:05.440



know I think we will too. Yeah, and I think366302:53:05.520 --> 02:53:08.000



right now there's a lot of doubt, but when push366402:53:08.040 --> 02:53:09.680



comes to shove, you know we're going to get in there.366502:53:10.319 --> 02:53:13.120



The whole thing with that Rush Ukraine situation, and there's366602:53:13.159 --> 02:53:14.239



a lot I don't know, if we have a lot366702:53:14.239 --> 02:53:15.959



of time to go into it. But the reality is366802:53:15.959 --> 02:53:21.000



this is World War III was the threat. They did366902:53:21.079 --> 02:53:23.040



not want to go to war with a very capable367002:53:23.120 --> 02:53:27.120



nuclear nation period. Now they're they're they're getting they're getting367102:53:27.120 --> 02:53:30.040



ground down slowly over time because of the resilience of367202:53:30.040 --> 02:53:34.600



the Ukraine Ukrainian army or military and and even though.367302:53:34.440 --> 02:53:37.000



It's saw coming exactly. I mean, everyone thought that thing367402:53:37.000 --> 02:53:39.479



would be over in two weeks, and and I think367502:53:39.760 --> 02:53:41.879



Putin thought it would be over in two weeks. I367602:53:43.159 --> 02:53:45.719



obviously did not go according to plan.367702:53:45.760 --> 02:53:48.280



But all because of the threat of a nuclear war367802:53:48.280 --> 02:53:51.399



is why nobody got involved. And but but everybody was367902:53:51.440 --> 02:53:54.159



crying for us, let's just be quite honest about to368002:53:54.200 --> 02:53:56.159



go over there and handle the situation. It's like, wait368102:53:56.159 --> 02:53:59.799



a minute, this is in your backyard, United Kingdom in France.368202:53:59.600 --> 02:54:01.159



Which is why they did step up. I mean, that's368302:54:01.159 --> 02:54:04.559



why like mess around it. They should have stopped it368402:54:04.959 --> 02:54:09.719



from the get go. Yeah, I don't know. I think368502:54:09.760 --> 02:54:10.959



you have to go back to like two thousand and368602:54:11.040 --> 02:54:14.440



eight to really stop this invasion of Ukraine from having368702:54:14.520 --> 02:54:16.760



Like I said, I think I think this was a368802:54:16.760 --> 02:54:20.920



failure under Bush Obama and Biden it actually did not368902:54:20.959 --> 02:54:23.959



happen under Trump the first time. Like Trump, that's fair,369002:54:24.280 --> 02:54:26.360



like he gets to claim and I'm the only president369102:54:26.399 --> 02:54:29.000



in the last twenty years that Russia hasn't invaded your369202:54:29.000 --> 02:54:34.639



career to some degree. And again, now this is more369302:54:34.639 --> 02:54:38.840



complicated because obviously you're talking about two nuclear powers. But369402:54:38.559 --> 02:54:42.079



what has bothered me about our positioning in foreign affairs369502:54:42.120 --> 02:54:46.319



has been everything has been about worrying of escalation. And369602:54:46.399 --> 02:54:51.159



so even with Iran, like everything everything that Joe Biden369702:54:51.239 --> 02:54:56.040



did with regard to the Israel and Hamas stuff is369802:54:56.280 --> 02:54:59.200



was like, We're worried about poking Iran, and I'm like,369902:54:59.600 --> 02:55:02.639



Ira should be scared of poking us, like it should.370002:55:02.799 --> 02:55:05.479



Now Russia is different. They've got nuclear weapons and Putin's crazy.370102:55:05.520 --> 02:55:09.680



Probably again though they should be as scared of our370202:55:09.799 --> 02:55:13.799



nuclear deterrent as we are of Theirs, and they should370302:55:13.879 --> 02:55:15.719



be scared of NATO. But the truth, I mean, like,370402:55:15.719 --> 02:55:18.879



like you know who loves NATO, like not having each370502:55:18.879 --> 02:55:22.680



other's backs. China and Russia like they're super happy about it. Well,370602:55:22.719 --> 02:55:25.440



so they know it's a legitimate force that could stop.370702:55:25.399 --> 02:55:28.760



Let's let's talk about that dynamic though, because you brought370802:55:28.840 --> 02:55:33.440



up Iran. Russia isn't just that they're the nuclear power.370902:55:33.520 --> 02:55:35.840



You got to you gotta look at Russia. And I371002:55:35.879 --> 02:55:39.200



don't know how much they'll back them. But allegedly China371102:55:39.280 --> 02:55:44.600



is an ally ally now North Korea is an ally right.371202:55:44.959 --> 02:55:48.280



North Korea actually sent troops and at some point China371302:55:48.319 --> 02:55:50.239



did say that they had Russia's back, and then they371402:55:50.280 --> 02:55:54.760



renigged on it. Right, Iran has a relationship with Russia371502:55:54.799 --> 02:55:58.520



as well. Now, the thing that is not in Iran's371602:55:58.520 --> 02:56:00.879



favorite is that Russia will ever be able to back371702:56:00.920 --> 02:56:03.959



them because they cannot fight on two different fronts. They371802:56:04.040 --> 02:56:06.239



just can't. Right now, they're not in that position.371902:56:06.879 --> 02:56:08.520



But it turns out they weren't as good at fighting372002:56:08.520 --> 02:56:09.600



on one fronts.372102:56:09.239 --> 02:56:13.239



No, I mean Afghanistan, right, and then they got pushed372202:56:13.239 --> 02:56:15.399



back by by the rebels that were trained by well372302:56:15.479 --> 02:56:19.239



our people. But the the thing with Iran is is372402:56:19.680 --> 02:56:23.120



they support Russia. Russia or the Soviet Union supports Iran,372502:56:23.239 --> 02:56:27.040



and that that goes way back that history. So a372602:56:27.079 --> 02:56:29.879



lot of people don't even realize that these these relationships372702:56:29.920 --> 02:56:32.000



were already in place. So I think with Iran that372802:56:32.159 --> 02:56:34.159



is one thing to think about, right. There is if372902:56:34.639 --> 02:56:37.959



will Russia actually step up and side with Iran to373002:56:38.079 --> 02:56:41.040



help fight if it came down to it, I don't373102:56:41.040 --> 02:56:41.360



think so.373202:56:42.319 --> 02:56:44.479



I don't think any of them would. North Korea is373302:56:44.520 --> 02:56:45.440



the exception to that.373402:56:45.879 --> 02:56:48.120



I think he's just ready to do. I don't know373502:56:48.200 --> 02:56:50.719



he's he's he's wanting to prove something, He's just waiting.373602:56:51.719 --> 02:56:55.319



I think that the problem the card. Yeah, like obviously373702:56:55.399 --> 02:56:58.479



Russia did not Putin would not have invaded if he373802:56:58.479 --> 02:57:03.280



could have seen the future. Yeah, yeah, I think that373902:57:03.719 --> 02:57:08.319



it first of all exposed to think no, and I don't,374002:57:08.479 --> 02:57:12.559



and I don't think he knows. I think what's so374102:57:12.559 --> 02:57:14.360



stupid about it is that like we're just not good374202:57:14.440 --> 02:57:16.520



enough to take advantage of the fact that I think374302:57:16.600 --> 02:57:18.840



Russia wants out of this, but they also have to374402:57:18.840 --> 02:57:21.079



be able to save face. It's like they almost need,374502:57:21.159 --> 02:57:24.319



like us to stop it in some sort of way374602:57:24.360 --> 02:57:26.319



where they can just blame us for it and not374702:57:26.360 --> 02:57:28.680



really have to take the loss.374802:57:29.159 --> 02:57:31.239



I don't know how you think they also are. Putin374902:57:31.319 --> 02:57:34.120



was relying on China to be more of an ally375002:57:34.159 --> 02:57:37.120



on stepping up and really getting involved and then happen.375102:57:37.440 --> 02:57:38.959



I think they thought it wouldn't have to happen, first375202:57:39.000 --> 02:57:40.760



of all, But I also think that they do. Think375302:57:40.920 --> 02:57:42.879



I mean, my favorite way to refer to them as375402:57:43.120 --> 02:57:45.799



the Axis of assholes, because that's really what it is.375502:57:46.120 --> 02:57:48.319



But it's not a real alliance. Like you just look375602:57:48.319 --> 02:57:51.840



at China's trajectory and Russia and like what their stated375702:57:51.920 --> 02:57:54.879



goals are, and they're in conflict with each other. Like375802:57:55.040 --> 02:57:58.120



China wants to control the world, so does Russia.375902:57:58.200 --> 02:58:01.680



They can't both, you know, no, no they can't, but376002:58:02.319 --> 02:58:04.319



they do need each other for now.376102:58:04.600 --> 02:58:06.799



Right now they do. Yeah, so it's a convenience thing,376202:58:06.879 --> 02:58:09.520



and so that can change very quickly. Like I think376302:58:09.559 --> 02:58:12.399



that I think China what they love about this, if376402:58:12.440 --> 02:58:15.239



I had to guess, is that they they got to376502:58:15.280 --> 02:58:17.879



see a preview of what would happen if they invaded Tauan.376602:58:18.360 --> 02:58:21.719



You know, they get to see, like maybe maybe we're376702:58:21.799 --> 02:58:27.000



overestimating our military capability, Maybe maybe NATO's not as weak376802:58:27.040 --> 02:58:28.680



as we thought it was. Like I think they love376902:58:28.760 --> 02:58:32.200



I think China benefits immensely from Russia being the so377002:58:32.239 --> 02:58:33.760



of course they're encouraging them to do it, you know377102:58:33.799 --> 02:58:35.879



what I mean. It's like if it doesn't go well,377202:58:35.920 --> 02:58:37.200



it doesn't really affect us.377302:58:37.280 --> 02:58:41.719



Like China's definitely collecting data. But the only problem with377402:58:41.799 --> 02:58:46.239



that is they haven't found anything out yet because nobody377502:58:46.319 --> 02:58:51.799



has directly got involved yet. Yeah, but I mean they.377602:58:50.559 --> 02:58:53.520



Have found some I think they've learned some things. I377702:58:53.520 --> 02:58:55.799



think they've learned. I think they've probably taken a look377802:58:55.799 --> 02:58:57.760



at their Like first of all, there's a huge problem377902:58:57.840 --> 02:59:02.479



in dictatorships where you're not real problems are not bubbling378002:59:02.559 --> 02:59:05.959



up because if people are scared to be murdered, if378102:59:06.000 --> 02:59:09.000



they cause a problem, like in Russia and China, right,378202:59:09.120 --> 02:59:11.239



like it's not very likely that it's like a low378302:59:11.360 --> 02:59:14.000



level like everyone is basically faking it and pretending like378402:59:14.000 --> 02:59:16.360



that's why I like their tanks like literally just got378502:59:16.399 --> 02:59:19.799



stuck in the mud. They no one had ever flagged that, well,378602:59:19.840 --> 02:59:21.840



these things are not made to go into the mud.378702:59:21.959 --> 02:59:25.680



And like instead of raising that flag up to say, hey,378802:59:25.719 --> 02:59:28.079



actually there's a problem with this plan, mister putin that378902:59:28.120 --> 02:59:31.159



you have because you're dead, you're getting thrown out of379002:59:31.200 --> 02:59:33.760



a window. And like Russia does it in a way379102:59:33.799 --> 02:59:37.600



that is very like everyone falls out of a window.379202:59:37.680 --> 02:59:40.479



Like it's public. It's like they it's like they're bragging379302:59:40.600 --> 02:59:43.600



about they're bragging about if you go not even just379402:59:43.639 --> 02:59:46.280



go against us, you're just like you're not good at379502:59:46.280 --> 02:59:47.840



what you do. We will throw you out of a379602:59:47.840 --> 02:59:50.600



window and kill you, you know, And so that's like379702:59:51.040 --> 02:59:53.520



that you're not going to have a very well functioning379802:59:53.559 --> 02:59:56.399



government for the most part when that happens. No, And379902:59:56.440 --> 02:59:58.520



I think China maybe is learning from some of that380002:59:58.719 --> 03:00:04.159



of like that maybe we're overestimating some of our military capabilities.380103:00:04.159 --> 03:00:09.000



Maybe we're underestimating Taiwan. Maybe we're like in Taiwan, like geographically,380203:00:09.079 --> 03:00:11.959



is that actually even more complicated than Ukraine as far380303:00:12.040 --> 03:00:14.559



as there's a lot of really natural there's some really380403:00:14.639 --> 03:00:17.200



interesting articles about like why it would be so hard380503:00:17.200 --> 03:00:20.360



for China to invade they'd see it coming. There's all380603:00:20.440 --> 03:00:24.479



these there's all these situations where Taiwan. Like, I'm not380703:00:24.479 --> 03:00:26.639



saying China's not planning ahead. I just think that both380803:00:26.639 --> 03:00:31.239



of them have an outsized view of their capabilities, and380903:00:31.239 --> 03:00:32.840



so I think China's learning from that. And I also381003:00:32.840 --> 03:00:35.040



think China is happy to let Russia be the guinea pigs.381103:00:35.040 --> 03:00:36.719



I think they can be allies, but they don't really381203:00:36.799 --> 03:00:38.879



need Russia for anything. They are buying oil.381303:00:38.959 --> 03:00:42.000



But I also think that China if they see anything381403:00:42.040 --> 03:00:44.239



from this is that if they wanted to do anything,381503:00:44.280 --> 03:00:47.040



they pretty much stand on their own, like who's your ally,381603:00:47.559 --> 03:00:50.520



because even even if it's like a North Korea, it's381703:00:50.719 --> 03:00:53.760



it's already been proven that their own troops turned till381803:00:53.799 --> 03:00:55.559



and run once they've got to taste of freedom and381903:00:55.600 --> 03:00:56.760



get in the outside world.382003:00:57.079 --> 03:01:00.799



Yeah, because who's fighting something like who's fighting someone else's382103:01:00.840 --> 03:01:03.079



war for territory at this point?382203:01:03.319 --> 03:01:05.879



Like I mean, yeah, twenty twenty five, are are we382303:01:05.959 --> 03:01:08.319



still doing this fight? Like that's so stupid to me.382403:01:08.879 --> 03:01:13.879



Like even in World War Two, it wasn't like Japan382503:01:13.959 --> 03:01:18.559



and Germany were really allies, you know what I mean.382603:01:18.920 --> 03:01:21.440



It's not that they were there, just like two empires382703:01:21.479 --> 03:01:23.920



that were trying to expand their empires at the same time.382803:01:24.719 --> 03:01:28.280



It wasn't like like one of them was gonna win382903:01:28.319 --> 03:01:30.239



out in that fight at some point. Now, I mean,383003:01:30.280 --> 03:01:33.559



I think the most interesting Trump theory that I totally383103:01:33.639 --> 03:01:35.239



buy and it makes all the sense in the world383203:01:35.360 --> 03:01:36.799



is like and I'll try to find it in scient383303:01:36.879 --> 03:01:39.120



to you. Basically, it's like explaining how growing up in383403:01:39.200 --> 03:01:43.200



like New York sort of more mob controlled New York.383503:01:43.239 --> 03:01:46.479



It's like he thinks of the world, the way of383603:01:46.520 --> 03:01:48.840



like the way the mob works. It's like you have383703:01:49.000 --> 03:01:52.280



your area and I have my area, and as long383803:01:52.280 --> 03:01:54.520



as we don't piss on each other, right, you get383903:01:54.559 --> 03:01:55.840



to do your thing. I get to do my thing,384003:01:55.879 --> 03:01:58.280



and like we demand respect from the bottom up of384103:01:58.319 --> 03:02:00.520



our thing. And that's why he's always villifying his friends384203:02:00.840 --> 03:02:04.719



like he doesn't ever you know, it's like he talks more.384303:02:04.799 --> 03:02:07.040



He talks more crap on all those European countries than384403:02:07.079 --> 03:02:09.399



he does on Russia than he does on China. He's384503:02:09.440 --> 03:02:13.120



done more, like he's done more actions with tariffs, like384603:02:13.559 --> 03:02:15.719



China is the one country that we need to actually384703:02:15.760 --> 03:02:19.600



do some trade changes with because they're taking unfair advantage384803:02:19.639 --> 03:02:23.000



of us. But he's not going after China with tariffs.384903:02:23.040 --> 03:02:27.079



He's going after like in he's going after Israel. Israel385003:02:27.159 --> 03:02:30.799



has a higher tariff than or Brazil, or he's going385103:02:30.840 --> 03:02:33.840



after like it's just whoever pisses him off, whoever's like385203:02:34.360 --> 03:02:37.239



insufficiently loyal to him. But it's because he thinks he385303:02:37.280 --> 03:02:40.159



gets to decide what happens in this hemisphere. Russia gets385403:02:40.159 --> 03:02:42.680



to decide what happens in their area, China gets to385503:02:42.719 --> 03:02:44.840



happen do what they do in their area, and I385603:02:44.840 --> 03:02:48.000



think to some degree kind of feels not the exact385703:02:48.040 --> 03:02:50.479



same way about Iran, because there's the Israel connection there385803:02:50.479 --> 03:02:53.000



and so that's more complicated. But he doesn't have an385903:02:53.040 --> 03:02:56.040



ally he likes better in Russia's region or China's region386003:02:56.079 --> 03:02:58.559



of power, and so he's like, yeah, I like the386103:02:58.559 --> 03:03:00.360



tough guy thing. Let them do what they want to do.386203:03:00.440 --> 03:03:03.120



I don't really care. I don't think that's a good386303:03:03.159 --> 03:03:06.559



way to organize the world. That can't happen without spillover386403:03:07.079 --> 03:03:09.079



in Like we thought that going into World War Two,386503:03:09.079 --> 03:03:11.200



we thought we can stay out of this. This is386603:03:11.239 --> 03:03:13.600



not our fight. And I'm not saying that was even386703:03:13.719 --> 03:03:17.879



wrong to say at the time, especially when we we386803:03:17.879 --> 03:03:20.520



we get the benefit of looking back at history, and386903:03:21.159 --> 03:03:23.639



you know, they didn't know the Holocaust was happening, Like387003:03:23.879 --> 03:03:25.879



they did not have news reporters on the ground in387103:03:25.920 --> 03:03:29.399



real time with satellite links. Like it's just more complicated387203:03:29.440 --> 03:03:33.239



the way information moved. I believe that if we knew387303:03:33.360 --> 03:03:34.840



more like we knew what we knew now, I think387403:03:34.840 --> 03:03:36.120



we would have gotten in or whatever. I think the387503:03:36.120 --> 03:03:39.200



American people would have potentially demanded it, but different war,387603:03:39.239 --> 03:03:41.399



for sure, different war, for sure, but you get attacked387703:03:41.399 --> 03:03:43.120



at Pearl Harbor and it's like, all right, we're in this.387803:03:43.399 --> 03:03:45.239



It's like you know, and then it's like and then387903:03:45.280 --> 03:03:48.280



once you start realizing what's going on, it's like, no,388003:03:48.360 --> 03:03:49.760



we've got to push back. We got to make sure388103:03:49.799 --> 03:03:53.200



this never happens again. Like so everything that happens after388203:03:53.200 --> 03:03:55.040



we enter World War two is like, we've got to388303:03:55.079 --> 03:03:58.840



make sure that empires don't try to expand territorially and388403:03:58.959 --> 03:04:00.000



murder people in the process.388503:04:00.120 --> 03:04:03.120



US and I think the lines are drawn at this point,388603:04:03.239 --> 03:04:05.639



like we we don't need to be going back to388703:04:05.719 --> 03:04:08.799



the ancient days of you know, which ruler has the388803:04:08.840 --> 03:04:11.319



bigger dick, and I'm going to take this territory because388903:04:11.440 --> 03:04:12.799



I think I just need to expand.389003:04:12.799 --> 03:04:16.879



And I mean, you'll say that except that Donald Trump389103:04:16.920 --> 03:04:19.680



wants to take Greenland and wants to bully Canada and389203:04:19.719 --> 03:04:22.520



Mexico more than he told China, you know what I mean,389303:04:22.559 --> 03:04:24.360



Like we are we are allowed.389403:04:24.479 --> 03:04:27.079



To be fair. The US did offered to buy Greenland389503:04:27.159 --> 03:04:29.159



years ago. I forgot what the amount.389603:04:28.920 --> 03:04:30.399



Was, which I think would have been a great plan.389703:04:30.520 --> 03:04:34.120



I actually think it's a good like it's a good389803:04:34.559 --> 03:04:37.360



we shouldn't talk about invading Greenland.389903:04:37.399 --> 03:04:39.360



You know, you know he's trolling half the time. Like390003:04:39.399 --> 03:04:42.000



I know, I know that you don't like him, and390103:04:42.120 --> 03:04:44.159



I don't agree with everything he says or does either,390203:04:44.200 --> 03:04:46.719



But you also got to recognize the troll in him.390303:04:46.680 --> 03:04:48.600



Right, But do you think you'll get what you want390403:04:48.639 --> 03:04:50.120



when you do that?390503:04:49.479 --> 03:04:49.600



Oh?390603:04:51.040 --> 03:04:53.159



You know what I mean? Like, I don't I like it?390703:04:53.239 --> 03:04:55.920



For example, I could agree, I'm not going to agree390803:04:55.959 --> 03:04:59.040



with the fact that he would, but there's just a390903:04:59.159 --> 03:05:02.559



side of him that he just likes to antagonize and391003:05:03.600 --> 03:05:05.280



poke the barons. I think you're totally right.391103:05:05.319 --> 03:05:07.000



I think most of the stuff, it's like we're most391203:05:07.040 --> 03:05:08.639



of the stuff we talked about on a daily basis391303:05:08.719 --> 03:05:11.799



is distraction, and he has distraction. However, I think the391403:05:11.840 --> 03:05:14.159



other thing he does that's dangerous is he throws something391503:05:14.159 --> 03:05:17.879



out as a joke true, and then judges the reaction391603:05:18.200 --> 03:05:20.520



based on saying if it's a joke or not. And391703:05:20.840 --> 03:05:24.600



once anyone starts going like, yeah, we should invade Greenland,391803:05:24.680 --> 03:05:27.360



or yes we should teariff canaon in Mexico more than391903:05:27.399 --> 03:05:30.360



we do China, then he goes, all right, I can392003:05:30.440 --> 03:05:31.719



roll with this because it's like it's a way to392103:05:31.760 --> 03:05:33.079



throw a trial balloon out there.392203:05:33.680 --> 03:05:36.319



And he's stressed tests class. That's exactly what he does.392303:05:36.440 --> 03:05:38.799



That's what he's doing every single time. He's stress testing.392403:05:38.879 --> 03:05:41.559



And and the problem is we've got a feedback loop392503:05:41.799 --> 03:05:44.239



where the Republican Party has said everything he says we392603:05:44.280 --> 03:05:46.319



have to agree with and so he gets that act392703:05:46.600 --> 03:05:49.040



get now, Sometimes people push back, Like some of the392803:05:49.040 --> 03:05:51.399



hate speech stuff that Pambondi did last week was like392903:05:53.079 --> 03:05:55.680



Charlie Kirk would would have absolutely argued with you that393003:05:55.719 --> 03:05:57.920



there's free speech and then there's hate speech like that's393103:05:57.959 --> 03:06:00.440



like totally not true, and like so he got pushed393203:06:00.440 --> 03:06:01.920



back from the right for that, and again they just393303:06:01.959 --> 03:06:03.680



get to go like, well I misspoke or it was393403:06:03.719 --> 03:06:05.920



a joke or I'm just t you know, right, And393503:06:06.000 --> 03:06:09.120



so I don't love that, Like that is always the fallback.393603:06:09.200 --> 03:06:11.680



I'd rather just be like say what you mean, mean393703:06:11.719 --> 03:06:14.600



what you say right in like Greenland could be a393803:06:14.600 --> 03:06:17.239



good strategy, but like offer to be Like what I393903:06:17.239 --> 03:06:18.879



want to do is work with Denmark to like I394003:06:19.159 --> 03:06:21.520



want to have that territory for And here's the reasons394103:06:21.520 --> 03:06:24.040



why I think we're scared of Russia and I think394203:06:24.040 --> 03:06:26.319



it's a ge like like list the reasons, like make394303:06:26.360 --> 03:06:29.360



the case. But when you joke about invading, you just394403:06:29.440 --> 03:06:32.040



sound like Russia, and you just sound like China. You394503:06:32.040 --> 03:06:33.399



just sound like a ron, You just sound like North394603:06:33.440 --> 03:06:38.040



Korea's you know. So we think we're different. I think394703:06:38.040 --> 03:06:41.079



we think we're more civilized, and I think the I394803:06:41.079 --> 03:06:43.639



guess I'll sort of close with this. My overall view394903:06:43.760 --> 03:06:46.760



of politics and the difference between conservatives and liberals is395003:06:46.760 --> 03:06:49.639



that I come from the conservatives. I believe that people395103:06:49.680 --> 03:06:52.879



are inherently bad. I think that we're flawed. I think395203:06:52.879 --> 03:06:55.920



that people will pursue power if there's not a check395303:06:55.959 --> 03:06:57.799



against it, Like these are all things that I just395403:06:57.840 --> 03:07:01.479



think are human nature, and so I want a system395503:07:01.520 --> 03:07:06.120



that blocks that from happening to the best of its ability.395603:07:06.600 --> 03:07:10.959



And I just I think that we think we're better395703:07:11.040 --> 03:07:13.479



than people one hundred years ago, a thousand years ago,395803:07:13.600 --> 03:07:16.360



pick the time. And I don't think we are. I395903:07:16.360 --> 03:07:18.440



think that in a lot of ways we are, Like396003:07:18.559 --> 03:07:21.639



things are better, We've got technology, like people live longer,396103:07:21.719 --> 03:07:24.319



people are like fewer people are starving, people are fewer396203:07:24.360 --> 03:07:27.200



people are in poverty, Like there's all sorts of good396303:07:27.239 --> 03:07:29.040



things about the world today. But when it comes to396403:07:29.040 --> 03:07:29.719



the human.396503:07:29.559 --> 03:07:32.559



Heart and power and.396603:07:34.319 --> 03:07:37.280



Just all that stuff, I don't think we're really any396703:07:37.280 --> 03:07:38.600



different when you look at what's going on in the396803:07:38.600 --> 03:07:40.319



Middle East, when you look at what's happening with Russia396903:07:40.319 --> 03:07:42.239



and Ukraine, you look at China, you look at even397003:07:42.319 --> 03:07:44.719



just us and the way we've turned politics into an397103:07:44.840 --> 03:07:46.799



US versus them and let's get all the power we397203:07:46.840 --> 03:07:50.159



can and violence is okay against my enemy because they're evil.397303:07:50.600 --> 03:07:52.680



I don't think we've really evolved as much as we397403:07:52.760 --> 03:07:56.479



think we have. And I think that until we say,397503:07:57.440 --> 03:07:59.639



like I think Americans, because that's the only people I'm397603:07:59.680 --> 03:08:03.680



talk abo like us as voters, until we say, actually,397703:08:04.479 --> 03:08:07.600



I don't want someone like I don't trust the government397803:08:07.680 --> 03:08:10.639



to have control over what free speech is. I don't397903:08:10.680 --> 03:08:16.639



trust unchecked power. I don't trust like Congress just relegating398003:08:16.719 --> 03:08:19.920



all of their power to the executive branch, even when398103:08:19.920 --> 03:08:23.319



it's someone in there that I like. I think until398203:08:23.360 --> 03:08:25.719



that changes, until we actually change our view in humanation398303:08:25.879 --> 03:08:30.319



and stop trusting people in power in like without question,398403:08:31.159 --> 03:08:33.680



that we will like keep slipping down the slope. I think,398503:08:34.319 --> 03:08:38.399



in combination with we don't have a World War two398603:08:38.399 --> 03:08:41.600



style crisis that will wake us up. And I keep398703:08:41.680 --> 03:08:44.360



thinking things will be that. I thought COVID might be398803:08:44.440 --> 03:08:46.399



the thing that makes us go like, oh, here's just398903:08:46.559 --> 03:08:50.920



a virus, Like no one's the bad guy. And as399003:08:50.920 --> 03:08:52.760



soon I mean, we can blame, like we can talk399103:08:52.760 --> 03:08:55.040



about like where did it come from, like labla theory399203:08:55.079 --> 03:08:57.360



all this kind of stuff, and talk about like there399303:08:57.399 --> 03:09:00.200



might be blame to go around. But like we went399403:09:00.200 --> 03:09:02.680



in camps. It was like instead of going, hey, we399503:09:02.680 --> 03:09:05.319



could actually like save lives, we could do things the399603:09:05.360 --> 03:09:07.440



right way. We should look at data, we should got science.399703:09:07.600 --> 03:09:09.799



We just went into our camps and said I'm on399803:09:09.879 --> 03:09:12.760



side this and you're onside that, and we are enemies.399903:09:12.799 --> 03:09:14.879



And it was like humans are going to always be400003:09:14.959 --> 03:09:18.239



human play period exactly. You're always gonna take an opportunity.400103:09:18.639 --> 03:09:21.959



You can't. You can't ever no matter how how many400203:09:22.040 --> 03:09:24.000



years we've been on Earth, it may have evolved as400303:09:24.159 --> 03:09:27.760



as as a people, for some reason, we can't stamp400403:09:27.799 --> 03:09:33.239



out jealousy, the desire for power, money really any whatever400503:09:33.280 --> 03:09:34.440



whatever that currency may be.400603:09:35.040 --> 03:09:37.200



And like and like I mentioned, I'm a Christian, so400703:09:37.280 --> 03:09:39.879



I mean I find all of this in like spiritual400803:09:39.959 --> 03:09:41.840



like I mean I think that really it goes down400903:09:41.879 --> 03:09:44.000



to it's like it's it's the deadly sins. I mean,401003:09:44.000 --> 03:09:44.280



it's like.401103:09:44.280 --> 03:09:47.959



It's envy, it is it's lust, its.401203:09:47.799 --> 03:09:49.760



Power, it's like it's all the things that we've been401303:09:49.760 --> 03:09:57.360



struggling with for the entirety of human existence. And when401403:09:58.520 --> 03:10:01.600



you know, when we don't, I think it's like that happens.401503:10:01.600 --> 03:10:03.760



But not only are we not willing to well, we're401603:10:03.760 --> 03:10:05.559



willing to call things evil that I don't think are401703:10:05.600 --> 03:10:07.520



really evil, and then but we don't really call out401803:10:07.559 --> 03:10:10.840



real evil when it's there. It's a weird juxtaposition of401903:10:12.760 --> 03:10:15.680



being able to believe, like on the left, that America402003:10:15.799 --> 03:10:20.000



is evil and there's no redeeming of it because of slavery,402103:10:20.239 --> 03:10:25.520



but at the same time, like every person deserves, like402203:10:25.639 --> 03:10:27.799



is a good person. I'm like, well, those two things402303:10:27.840 --> 03:10:31.239



can't really exist at the same time, like all people402403:10:31.319 --> 03:10:34.840



can't be inherently good, and like our entire country and402503:10:34.879 --> 03:10:37.440



everyone that's ever lived in it that's white is evil.402603:10:37.600 --> 03:10:40.959



Like you can't have both those things right. But I402703:10:40.959 --> 03:10:43.719



don't think most people have wrestled with the contradiction there.402803:10:44.200 --> 03:10:47.319



It's like the devil could be right in front of402903:10:47.360 --> 03:10:48.760



you and you wouldn't recognize them.403003:10:49.159 --> 03:10:52.479



Oh absolutely, And I think that's the case a lot403103:10:52.520 --> 03:10:53.639



of the times now. And it's not even that you403203:10:53.680 --> 03:10:55.840



wouldn't recognize them, and it's now you would celebrate them403303:10:56.440 --> 03:10:58.520



like that too, frankly, which is what I think is403403:10:58.520 --> 03:11:02.799



the case if you celebrate someone murdering someone. Ever, like,403503:11:03.319 --> 03:11:05.319



there's very few people on this earth that I would403603:11:05.360 --> 03:11:09.799



celebrate their death, and most of them are those people403703:11:09.879 --> 03:11:13.520



that are oppressing you know, entire countries full of people403803:11:13.719 --> 03:11:15.879



or or evil or they're terrorists or they're you know,403903:11:15.920 --> 03:11:18.920



they're like they are evil, and I think that they were.404003:11:18.639 --> 03:11:21.360



Obvious problem or blight to humanity.404103:11:21.399 --> 03:11:23.840



I mean, it has right, but even then, I'd rather404203:11:23.879 --> 03:11:28.200



see Putin overthrown by his own people. And like that's404303:11:28.239 --> 03:11:28.920



what I like.404403:11:29.079 --> 03:11:33.680



The solution is always the people need to stand up.404503:11:34.000 --> 03:11:38.840



It is that that gets really really hard. And I404603:11:38.879 --> 03:11:41.280



do think those countries are I think those leaders are404703:11:41.319 --> 03:11:43.920



scared of their people. I mean, there's a billion Chinese people.404803:11:44.040 --> 03:11:47.840



There's no way the government is not scared of those people. Really,404903:11:48.600 --> 03:11:52.120



it doesn't even take a majority of them to have405003:11:52.159 --> 03:11:55.600



a real threat on your you know, like you could405103:11:55.639 --> 03:11:59.120



not we we always talk like the common thing is405203:11:59.159 --> 03:12:01.639



always like, well you can camp again. Everyone thought Russia405303:12:01.639 --> 03:12:03.760



would just go in there and crush Ukraine. It turns405403:12:03.799 --> 03:12:05.559



out then when people are willing to fight for their country,405503:12:05.600 --> 03:12:08.879



it's like they're scrappy. We we had a real tough405603:12:08.920 --> 03:12:11.680



time fighting, you know, a bunch of people in caves405703:12:11.920 --> 03:12:16.319



in Iraq and Afghanistan rootimentry weapons, Like we had the405803:12:16.360 --> 03:12:19.600



best best technology in the world as far as that405903:12:19.600 --> 03:12:22.000



stuff goes, and we are having trouble trying to figure406003:12:22.040 --> 03:12:24.360



out how to like stop roadside bombs from killing our406103:12:24.680 --> 03:12:28.000



like I D S and stuff like. It is all right, military,406203:12:28.079 --> 03:12:30.079



MIT's not always all cracked up to be?406303:12:30.799 --> 03:12:34.040



Is all right? Where's the bright spot? How are we406403:12:34.200 --> 03:12:36.959



going to fix all this? Man, we've been We've been406503:12:36.959 --> 03:12:40.120



going for for a long hours. I've been bad at this.406603:12:40.159 --> 03:12:43.440



I need to start. Fine, man, you're fine. I have406703:12:43.520 --> 03:12:45.520



no problem talking for a long time. And I think406803:12:46.120 --> 03:12:47.559



I think about two to three hours easy.406903:12:47.840 --> 03:12:50.840



I think the bright spot, if there is one, it's407003:12:50.920 --> 03:12:53.360



not You're not gonna like the bright spot. I do407103:12:53.479 --> 03:12:57.799



think that in a real crisis, people can wake up407203:12:59.040 --> 03:13:03.360



and realize that and just totally change. I mean, I like,407303:13:03.399 --> 03:13:06.200



I don't think it takes. I think there's some ways407403:13:06.200 --> 03:13:08.520



that we need to do gradual change, but like convincing407503:13:08.600 --> 03:13:12.520



people that we should change the way we elect like407603:13:13.159 --> 03:13:15.239



do primaries, Like I don't have a real like I407703:13:15.280 --> 03:13:16.959



think that that's a problem, but I also think it's407803:13:17.040 --> 03:13:18.840



unrealistic to think that that's going to go away. I407903:13:18.840 --> 03:13:20.719



think the same thing with the congressional stuff. It's like,408003:13:20.760 --> 03:13:22.399



I think all that stuff you said is true, but408103:13:22.399 --> 03:13:24.000



I think it's going to be hard to convince Congress408203:13:24.040 --> 03:13:26.680



to vote for their own pay cuts and job you408303:13:26.840 --> 03:13:27.280



know what I mean.408403:13:27.479 --> 03:13:27.840



And so.408503:13:29.399 --> 03:13:31.760



But I do go like what has worked in the past,408603:13:31.799 --> 03:13:36.239



and unfortunately, the thing that works in the past is is,408703:13:36.399 --> 03:13:38.760



you know, we get attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor,408803:13:38.920 --> 03:13:41.879



and it wakes us up to understanding that like, oh,408903:13:42.000 --> 03:13:45.319



this is real and this is not just something that's409003:13:45.319 --> 03:13:48.040



happening somewhere else that we feel like it's not our409103:13:48.079 --> 03:13:51.200



thing to deal with, and people stepped up. It's not409203:13:51.239 --> 03:13:52.600



just that we got into World War two, it's that409303:13:52.719 --> 03:13:54.760



like we sent off all our men to fight for409403:13:54.879 --> 03:13:55.600



other countries.409503:13:56.200 --> 03:13:56.760



Essentially.409603:13:56.840 --> 03:13:58.479



I mean, like, I know, we got attacked by Japan409703:13:58.719 --> 03:14:01.159



and we really but like the europe stuff, had nothing,409803:14:01.239 --> 03:14:02.799



I mean, nothing to do with this. We just kind409903:14:02.799 --> 03:14:04.680



of said like, okay, we got to fight this war410003:14:04.719 --> 03:14:07.799



on two fronts and help our friends out right, the410103:14:07.879 --> 03:14:11.799



women go to work, we change factories from cars to weapons.410203:14:11.840 --> 03:14:14.520



I mean, like it was a the whole nation got410303:14:14.559 --> 03:14:18.079



behind that thing. I think nine to eleven was kind410403:14:18.120 --> 03:14:19.040



of one of those things.410503:14:19.319 --> 03:14:22.879



Isn't it sad that conflict like wars are the only410603:14:22.920 --> 03:14:24.319



thing that unite us as a people?410703:14:25.239 --> 03:14:26.159



Yeah, it is.410803:14:25.959 --> 03:14:28.239



Is there not any other reason?410903:14:28.760 --> 03:14:30.520



Well, I mean I do think that at some point411003:14:30.600 --> 03:14:32.120



things can get bad, and I mean I think the411103:14:32.440 --> 03:14:36.399



fiscal crisis could also do the same thing, you know,411203:14:37.280 --> 03:14:41.399



great depression, and I think we're heading towards something like411303:14:41.440 --> 03:14:45.159



that with the debt we have. It's just it's unsustainable.411403:14:45.479 --> 03:14:48.600



At some point that will a matter of time collapse411503:14:49.159 --> 03:14:51.440



and that will that can be the thing I said,411603:14:51.440 --> 03:14:53.680



I don't see any way that it's like we just411703:14:53.719 --> 03:14:57.040



slowly figured out because you mentioned you mentioned going in411803:14:57.120 --> 03:15:01.600



all all in on the lies earlier, and it's worked411903:15:01.719 --> 03:15:04.520



very well for Donald Trump. It's just like a say412003:15:04.520 --> 03:15:06.360



it over and over and over again till people believe it.412103:15:07.520 --> 03:15:11.200



Democrats instead of saying we could be a different kind412203:15:11.200 --> 03:15:14.479



of party. It's very obvious that they've just learned from412303:15:14.520 --> 03:15:16.319



that and they're just going to start doing that like412403:15:16.360 --> 03:15:19.760



that's the new thing. It's like, and so I think412503:15:19.799 --> 03:15:22.799



the lesson learned is a bad lesson. And I think,412603:15:23.200 --> 03:15:25.639



you know, I think what people really want is authentic412703:15:25.760 --> 03:15:28.239



people to be their leaders. I think both parties have412803:15:28.280 --> 03:15:30.879



not figured that out. I think that if they just412903:15:30.879 --> 03:15:34.159



figured out, like if we run real honest people, even413003:15:34.159 --> 03:15:36.440



if they have some opinions that rub people the wrong way,413103:15:36.479 --> 03:15:38.840



they're going to be refreshed by the honesty or whatever.413203:15:38.840 --> 03:15:39.000



It's like.413303:15:39.079 --> 03:15:41.079



I think people like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump because413403:15:41.079 --> 03:15:44.760



they were so authentic. I'm not saying they tell the413503:15:44.799 --> 03:15:47.239



truth all the time, but I think they're authentically themselves.413603:15:47.280 --> 03:15:49.879



They're not changing their accent. Donald Trump keeps the suit413703:15:49.959 --> 03:15:52.479



on at McDonald's, like he's not getting on a flannel413803:15:52.520 --> 03:15:54.920



shirt to pretend he's a farmer. He's not going on413903:15:54.959 --> 03:15:57.000



a fake duck hunt or something. It's not him.414003:15:57.360 --> 03:15:58.200



He just won't do it.414103:15:58.280 --> 03:16:00.920



Bernie Sanders doesn't do it either. Think that's what attracted414203:16:00.920 --> 03:16:05.000



people to those politicians. But I just don't see a414303:16:05.239 --> 03:16:08.440



I don't see a way that we don't have some414403:16:08.479 --> 03:16:10.639



sort of crisis that gets us there. I hope it's414503:16:10.639 --> 03:16:14.000



not a war, but wars are traditionally the things that414603:16:14.000 --> 03:16:18.639



that do galvanize people. But it could be, like nothing else,414703:16:18.840 --> 03:16:20.719



it could be an economic crisis. I mean, I think414803:16:20.719 --> 03:16:22.799



that's something that makes people wake up and demand stuff.414903:16:22.799 --> 03:16:27.239



We've seen that around the world. I think that there415003:16:27.360 --> 03:16:32.479



is a degree of like wanting to better. I think415103:16:32.559 --> 03:16:35.360



the one thing that I would say, I don't really415203:16:35.440 --> 03:16:38.040



I'm not big into the populist like America first stuff,415303:16:38.079 --> 03:16:41.479



because I think most of it is is is has415403:16:41.520 --> 03:16:44.200



the seeds of racism underneath it, and they pretend it's415503:16:44.200 --> 03:16:45.920



not there, but it's really by we don't like that415603:16:45.959 --> 03:16:48.959



white people aren't like for the most part. That's where again,415703:16:49.000 --> 03:16:51.120



we just keep pulling the thread. That's where we always415803:16:51.200 --> 03:16:54.040



end up being. But I do think there's value in saying, like,415903:16:54.159 --> 03:16:56.639



I think we need to better defind what an American is,416003:16:57.559 --> 03:17:01.120



and that's hard to do. And half of the country,416103:17:01.200 --> 03:17:04.360



the sort of party that is capitulated to the progressive416203:17:04.399 --> 03:17:07.719



wing that says there's nothing redemptive about this country, can't416303:17:07.760 --> 03:17:10.959



say can't define Americanism because they say it's evil, and416403:17:12.319 --> 03:17:15.000



the right side says, you know, it's a bunch of416503:17:15.000 --> 03:17:17.799



stuff that doesn't really matter. Like I think that I'm416603:17:17.799 --> 03:17:20.559



a Christian. I don't think that we need like I416703:17:20.600 --> 03:17:24.280



don't need the Ten Commandments to be in schools for416803:17:24.319 --> 03:17:26.760



me to have security in the idea that like you416903:17:26.760 --> 03:17:28.920



can be a Christian in this country, like we're not persecuted.417003:17:28.920 --> 03:17:31.040



The people that are pretending that Christians are being persecuted417103:17:31.079 --> 03:17:34.319



in this country are insane. Now, they're really actually you417203:17:34.360 --> 03:17:36.280



want to see where they're getting persecuted. It's like China.417303:17:37.000 --> 03:17:39.360



It's also where they're growing the most. So I'm just417403:17:39.399 --> 03:17:41.840



like that kind of stuff bothers me. But like neither417503:17:41.879 --> 03:17:44.760



side will really define what Americanism is. So the right417603:17:44.879 --> 03:17:48.000



is saying, you know, literally, I think did Jad Advance417703:17:48.040 --> 03:17:49.879



tweet this out? I might be wrong about someone put417803:17:49.879 --> 03:17:51.600



a thing out the other day. It is pretty prominent.417903:17:51.680 --> 03:17:53.920



It was kind of like, here's the levels of Americanism.418003:17:53.959 --> 03:17:56.639



And it's like, you know, if your ancestors came here418103:17:57.399 --> 03:18:01.319



in the fifteen hundreds, you're sixty, obviously you're more American418203:18:01.360 --> 03:18:05.040



than someone that came here last you know, you're you're you're,418303:18:05.120 --> 03:18:08.680



you're a second generation American, And it's basically this way418403:18:08.680 --> 03:18:11.040



to say, here's this hierarchy of who's more American than other.418503:18:11.079 --> 03:18:13.840



And I'm like that you're talking about talking about now,418603:18:14.799 --> 03:18:15.200



and it's.418703:18:15.079 --> 03:18:17.600



Very much a white nationalist. It's like it's wrapped up418803:18:17.639 --> 03:18:20.520



in we're pretending we're not being racist. But I think418903:18:20.600 --> 03:18:23.200



the better thing to define Americanism is, like, we believe in, first,419003:18:23.360 --> 03:18:27.040



in free speech. If you come here, uh, if you419103:18:27.159 --> 03:18:29.440



want to come here and we vet you and you419203:18:29.559 --> 03:18:32.479



don't believe in free speech, we're gonna say no. If419303:18:32.520 --> 03:18:34.600



you think you can shout down other people or you419403:18:34.600 --> 03:18:36.760



can use violence to shut down people, no, we're not419503:18:36.799 --> 03:18:41.159



interested in having you here. We believe in voting, we419603:18:41.200 --> 03:18:45.200



believe in democracy, we believe in in federalism. Whatever we're419703:18:45.200 --> 03:18:47.120



going to like, we need to define that better. And419803:18:47.159 --> 03:18:49.280



I think the Constitution does a great job at defining this.419903:18:49.319 --> 03:18:51.520



We're just gonna fine, we just don't stick to it.420003:18:52.239 --> 03:18:54.559



Yeah, But I think that's the problem is that, like,420103:18:54.799 --> 03:18:57.120



if you ask what does it mean to be American420203:18:57.440 --> 03:19:00.200



to one hundred people right now, you might at one420303:19:00.239 --> 03:19:00.959



hundred different.420403:19:00.760 --> 03:19:02.440



Answers just because they don't know.420503:19:02.879 --> 03:19:04.920



And I think I think Britain is going through that too.420603:19:05.120 --> 03:19:07.040



I think that France is going through that. I think420703:19:07.040 --> 03:19:09.200



a lot of countries are going through that. And I420803:19:09.959 --> 03:19:14.200



don't believe that we somehow made assimilation a bad.420903:19:14.120 --> 03:19:16.000



You know, honestly, we don't even we don't even know421003:19:16.040 --> 03:19:17.040



how to define our culture.421103:19:17.120 --> 03:19:20.000



Let's just be honest, right, And it's because you it421203:19:20.040 --> 03:19:22.440



doesn't happen. But like I said, it needs to be broad.421303:19:22.680 --> 03:19:25.520



Like I said, we believe in free speech, and if421403:19:25.520 --> 03:19:27.360



you don't believe in free speech, we don't want you421503:19:27.399 --> 03:19:30.360



here in America. Like that should be that's the litmus test.421603:19:30.399 --> 03:19:33.040



It shouldn't be your skin color, your religion. But like421703:19:33.680 --> 03:19:35.319



you know what I mean. And and but there are421803:19:35.360 --> 03:19:37.200



people on the right that want it to be and421903:19:37.200 --> 03:19:38.959



there are people on the left that say the exact422003:19:39.000 --> 03:19:40.760



same thing. They're just like the white people are the422103:19:40.799 --> 03:19:42.159



bad people, you know what I mean. It's it's no422203:19:42.280 --> 03:19:46.360



different Like anytime we say someone's skin color is the422303:19:46.399 --> 03:19:49.479



thing that defines them, primarily it's racist. It doesn't matter422403:19:49.479 --> 03:19:52.239



if you're saying it's good or bad. It's it's you know.422503:19:53.000 --> 03:19:55.799



And so to me, I think there's like we need422603:19:55.799 --> 03:19:57.799



to have a national discussion of like what does that mean?422703:19:57.840 --> 03:19:59.799



Because I think we do need to think about like422803:20:00.040 --> 03:20:01.639



I want immigrants in this country, but I want to422903:20:01.680 --> 03:20:04.319



be selective about it, like I don't want someone coming423003:20:04.360 --> 03:20:05.879



to this country that hates this country.423103:20:06.200 --> 03:20:08.760



Yeah, but I don't care that immigrants are here because423203:20:08.760 --> 03:20:11.440



we all were at some point. I mean, you could423303:20:11.440 --> 03:20:15.879



trace almost to anyone's family. It's whether or not they423403:20:15.920 --> 03:20:20.760



are adding value yep, and assimilating period, just as I423503:20:20.760 --> 03:20:23.159



would be expected to if I move to another country. Yep.423603:20:23.520 --> 03:20:25.959



And we do have a culture. It's not a white culture,423703:20:26.040 --> 03:20:28.639



a black culture, amazing culture. It's actually an amalgamation of all.423803:20:28.719 --> 03:20:31.920



But I think what happened is there is an American423903:20:31.959 --> 03:20:34.159



way of life, but all these other cultures and immigrants424003:20:34.200 --> 03:20:36.639



came in and they added value and made it something424103:20:36.719 --> 03:20:39.959



unique exactly. And that's the thing. It's like, we need424203:20:40.000 --> 03:20:43.040



to get back to preserving that. You know, similar one424303:20:43.040 --> 03:20:45.200



who doesn't believe in free speech, as you said, right424403:20:45.280 --> 03:20:47.680



to come in and just bulldoze that and then totally424503:20:47.680 --> 03:20:49.479



wipe it off the face of the earth and just424603:20:49.479 --> 03:20:52.719



start something anew because they just don't like America. Yeah.424703:20:52.760 --> 03:20:56.840



And I think that there's a there's a radicalization in424803:20:56.920 --> 03:20:59.639



grouping around people that are just like you. And that424903:20:59.879 --> 03:21:03.959



is whether you've got like Muslim communities that are maybe425003:21:04.280 --> 03:21:08.799



like like we have in in in Minnesota, there's quite425103:21:08.840 --> 03:21:10.799



a bit of that, or you have in London kind425203:21:10.799 --> 03:21:16.440



of right now. Sometimes that's white conservatives, sometimes that's black liberals.425303:21:16.479 --> 03:21:18.719



I mean, like anytime you get with a group of425403:21:18.719 --> 03:21:21.000



people that all look and act and think exactly and425503:21:21.040 --> 03:21:25.000



you know, exactly like you, extremism, Like it's like social425603:21:25.079 --> 03:21:29.040



science sows that, like you're gonna get more extreme opinions425703:21:29.079 --> 03:21:31.520



that come out of that and more extreme examples. And425803:21:32.000 --> 03:21:33.840



I don't know how to force people to live by425903:21:33.840 --> 03:21:35.959



each other. But that's why I think cities are great,426003:21:36.120 --> 03:21:41.000



is because cities naturally don't let you not bump into426103:21:41.040 --> 03:21:41.600



people you don't.426203:21:41.719 --> 03:21:44.879



Like you live in New York City, opportunities will always426303:21:45.000 --> 03:21:47.239



always be either blake because when you when you immigrate,426403:21:48.159 --> 03:21:50.159



you want to be around people that you're familiar with426503:21:50.719 --> 03:21:52.920



speak the same language, Like they can learn English, but426603:21:52.920 --> 03:21:55.200



they're always to be fluent in their native tongue. Yeah,426703:21:55.239 --> 03:21:57.520



So I get why that happens, and I don't have426803:21:57.559 --> 03:22:00.959



a problem with that. There's always gonna be subcommunities, but to.426903:22:00.879 --> 03:22:03.079



Me, it should always it should be doing this, it427003:22:03.079 --> 03:22:06.040



should be spreading out. So like my my wife I mentioned,427103:22:06.079 --> 03:22:08.760



is Italian or family came over here obviously like they427203:22:08.799 --> 03:22:10.959



lived in really Italian those kind of things, like when427303:22:11.000 --> 03:22:12.680



all Italians were coming over here and they were being427403:22:12.680 --> 03:22:15.159



discriminated against and stuff. They lived in these little groups427503:22:15.159 --> 03:22:16.959



of you know people that they were like when. But427603:22:17.000 --> 03:22:19.639



then they also started influencing the culture. Not by like427703:22:19.719 --> 03:22:21.959



demanding that they influenced the culture. It's like they started427803:22:22.079 --> 03:22:24.319



making like everything we think of it as Italian food.427903:22:24.479 --> 03:22:25.879



They didn't have an alien at the time because they428003:22:25.879 --> 03:22:27.600



were too poor. They didn't have meat, they didn't have428103:22:27.639 --> 03:22:31.399



meat balls getting meat here because finally they like had428203:22:31.440 --> 03:22:33.879



the life where they could like cook with better ingredients,428303:22:34.200 --> 03:22:37.000



and like I mean, they influenced and so like their428403:22:37.000 --> 03:22:39.399



influence happened. You know, I think of it because I428503:22:39.479 --> 03:22:43.760



just love Italian food, like very food, Like same thing428603:22:43.799 --> 03:22:46.000



with Mexican stuff. It is like I love like Mexican428703:22:46.040 --> 03:22:48.239



food talk like all that kind of stuff I love.428803:22:48.520 --> 03:22:49.639



I love different.428903:22:49.319 --> 03:22:53.440



Cultures, like different that's different than cultures who isolate and429003:22:53.520 --> 03:22:57.479



create their own communities for the sake of not wanting429103:22:57.520 --> 03:22:58.040



to integrate.429203:22:58.440 --> 03:23:00.799



Isolation is the problem is when you don't try to429303:23:00.840 --> 03:23:03.440



move out and you don't let people in, that is429403:23:03.719 --> 03:23:05.719



always a problem. And like that's always going to take429503:23:05.760 --> 03:23:07.440



decades too, by the way, it's time we're going to429603:23:07.479 --> 03:23:09.440



take like that can't happen over the course of a429703:23:09.440 --> 03:23:11.520



couple of years. But you know, I think of it429803:23:11.600 --> 03:23:14.559



like we have I don't know if it's like what429903:23:14.639 --> 03:23:16.799



we I mean, I know we do. We have like430003:23:16.879 --> 03:23:20.680



a very high percentage of Asian Americans in Oklahoma because430103:23:20.680 --> 03:23:22.719



we were just one of the places during the Vietnam430203:23:22.799 --> 03:23:24.520



War and stuff that were just like come on, I430303:23:24.559 --> 03:23:26.600



guess I don't really know how it happened or whatever,430403:23:26.639 --> 03:23:31.360



but like we have an amazing Asian district and amazing restaurants.430503:23:31.399 --> 03:23:35.239



They're like on I mean, like John Mulaney talked about430603:23:35.399 --> 03:23:37.760



like an Asian grocery store because you know, Earbien months430703:23:37.760 --> 03:23:40.079



from here or whatever, and they're married and like on430803:23:40.079 --> 03:23:41.760



on the Tonight show. You know what I mean. It's like,430903:23:42.559 --> 03:23:44.799



but that like they did it by like the and431003:23:44.799 --> 03:23:46.600



and also there's a degree of like we welcome and431103:23:46.639 --> 03:23:48.159



they wanted to be here, and they like want their431203:23:48.239 --> 03:23:50.600



kids to educated, and they want their like I even431303:23:50.600 --> 03:23:52.639



look back at that and I go every I went431403:23:52.639 --> 03:23:55.399



to school with a lot of a lot of Vietnamese431503:23:55.440 --> 03:23:57.840



people who like whose parents came here and then they431603:23:57.879 --> 03:24:00.159



were born American citizens. All of them had like an431703:24:00.200 --> 03:24:02.520



Asian name and an American name. Like all of those431803:24:02.520 --> 03:24:04.600



parents that gave them a we're going to give you431903:24:04.639 --> 03:24:08.479



an American name too, because they wanted their kid to432003:24:08.639 --> 03:24:11.280



like they knew that this was it was going to432103:24:11.280 --> 03:24:13.920



be different. That's hard to do with kids that would432203:24:14.040 --> 03:24:16.280



I've never had to do that. I've never had to432303:24:16.319 --> 03:24:18.399



like take my kids to another country and be okay432403:24:18.440 --> 03:24:22.360



with like letting them become the definition of that country432503:24:22.680 --> 03:24:25.920



and abandon you know, because like that's a that's a432603:24:25.959 --> 03:24:26.719



scary thing to do.432703:24:27.479 --> 03:24:29.920



Well. A lot of a lot of cultures did that432803:24:30.319 --> 03:24:33.239



when they immigrated within a certain time. Because even my432903:24:33.239 --> 03:24:35.680



my dad's side, when they came over, they're from the433003:24:35.719 --> 03:24:39.879



Azores and they're all Portuguese, and when they have kids433103:24:39.920 --> 03:24:42.239



like me being one of those kids that generation, they433203:24:42.280 --> 03:24:44.600



intentionally want them to speak English only didn't even teach433303:24:44.760 --> 03:24:46.680



Portuguese for whatever reason, which they should have.433403:24:46.920 --> 03:24:48.959



Now I don't I don't love like that we eliminated433503:24:49.000 --> 03:24:51.360



German as a language. It's just because of World War433603:24:51.360 --> 03:24:53.280



two and stuff, like we did some stuff. We've done433703:24:53.319 --> 03:24:54.680



a lot of stuff in America that I don't like433803:24:54.840 --> 03:24:57.280



the way we did that, but I got that's what433903:24:57.319 --> 03:25:00.920



I want. It's like like Asian immigrants are perfect example434003:25:00.959 --> 03:25:03.440



of like they are thriving because they come here for434103:25:03.479 --> 03:25:05.760



a better opportunity for their kids, and they make sure434203:25:06.079 --> 03:25:09.319



that that happens by by like making sure their kids434303:25:09.399 --> 03:25:12.760



get educated and making sure that they're you know, it's434403:25:12.760 --> 03:25:14.239



like they've done a good job. And that's and by434503:25:14.239 --> 03:25:16.360



the way, that's like across the bord ation, that's Indian,434603:25:16.440 --> 03:25:19.719



that's Vietnamese, that's Japanese, like any like any immigrants, it's434703:25:19.719 --> 03:25:22.559



mostly you know, the it's not a lot of Japanese434803:25:22.559 --> 03:25:26.159



immigrants because Japan wasn't, you know, like bad in the434903:25:26.159 --> 03:25:28.319



seventies and eighties or something like that. You know, but435003:25:28.760 --> 03:25:32.000



you know, venam India, you've got all these immigrants that435103:25:32.079 --> 03:25:34.879



like they to me, do it the right way in435203:25:34.920 --> 03:25:38.159



the sense that like their goal is like I think435303:25:38.159 --> 03:25:40.760



I can make a better life for myself there that435403:25:40.920 --> 03:25:43.280



the land of opportunity. There's all these things that I435503:25:43.280 --> 03:25:44.799



can do there that I can't do here. And I435603:25:44.840 --> 03:25:47.319



want better for my kids. Everyone wants better for their kids.435703:25:47.959 --> 03:25:50.520



And like, I don't think black people get enough credit435803:25:50.600 --> 03:25:53.479



for Like what drives me crazy about anyone that tries435903:25:53.520 --> 03:25:55.479



to pretend that like black people are this problem is436003:25:55.479 --> 03:25:58.040



that like they've been Americans for longer than you have,436103:25:58.159 --> 03:26:01.000



probably if you're white. Yeah, like your ancestors came here436203:26:01.000 --> 03:26:03.319



in the nineteen hundreds and there's came here in the436303:26:03.360 --> 03:26:06.920



fourteen I've learned sixteen hundreds or whatever. Sometimes and I'm436403:26:06.920 --> 03:26:09.000



not saying that makes them more American than you. It436503:26:09.120 --> 03:26:13.440



just bothers me that we discount like so often. And436603:26:13.520 --> 03:26:16.000



like I said, I'm just picking on the right because436703:26:16.959 --> 03:26:19.520



I think that's where most of the racism towards black436803:26:19.559 --> 03:26:22.040



people is. And like I said, it's not normally that436903:26:22.079 --> 03:26:24.159



they would say they don't, like they would never associate437003:26:24.159 --> 03:26:25.920



with black people. They probably have black friends, but they437103:26:25.920 --> 03:26:28.639



still think of them in this like monoculture. And that's437203:26:28.680 --> 03:26:30.040



the other thing we do too much, is just like437303:26:30.120 --> 03:26:31.719



try to pretend to all black people are the same,437403:26:31.799 --> 03:26:33.479



or all Hispanic people are the same, or all white437503:26:33.479 --> 03:26:34.000



people they're same.437603:26:34.000 --> 03:26:36.319



It's like, OK, I think that that also depends on437703:26:36.360 --> 03:26:39.639



the individual, like how you grew up, you know, I437803:26:39.680 --> 03:26:42.520



because when I grew up, I wasn't I was not437903:26:42.680 --> 03:26:45.319



in an all white area necessarily. I was like all438003:26:45.360 --> 03:26:48.159



my friends from Mexican and black. Yeah, I just have438103:26:48.200 --> 03:26:50.040



a different experience, for sure.438203:26:50.079 --> 03:26:51.840



But even when you don't have even if you don't438303:26:51.840 --> 03:26:54.799



have experience with those people, like what you should want438403:26:54.840 --> 03:26:58.799



to do is have experience with and sometimes that's not possible.438503:26:58.799 --> 03:27:02.000



Like there's just not a big that I I know,438603:27:02.079 --> 03:27:03.399



like three Jewish.438703:27:03.159 --> 03:27:05.959



Fears on both sides, though it's not it's not just438803:27:06.040 --> 03:27:08.840



white people for example, some on both sides because because438903:27:08.879 --> 03:27:12.760



that message has been driven for so many years that439003:27:12.840 --> 03:27:15.440



we hate each other. Well again, by the way, don't439103:27:15.440 --> 03:27:17.479



you're suspicious You're like, well, I don't know, I've heard439203:27:17.719 --> 03:27:18.159



you know well, And.439303:27:18.200 --> 03:27:21.280



Keep in mind also something that's like biological is.439403:27:21.200 --> 03:27:24.840



Like you.439503:27:23.239 --> 03:27:26.319



Know, scientifically, I can't tell the difference between other races439603:27:26.319 --> 03:27:28.639



as much as and the same thing with me. I439703:27:28.639 --> 03:27:30.639



had a teacher with the substitute on time that was439803:27:30.719 --> 03:27:33.719



Korean or something, and uh, you know it's a bunch439903:27:33.760 --> 03:27:36.159



of musicians like me, we got long hair, and like440003:27:36.440 --> 03:27:38.600



he was there for like you know, the like two440103:27:38.680 --> 03:27:40.559



weeks or something, someone's on their honeymoon or something, and440203:27:40.639 --> 03:27:42.200



so he kept taking a role and he'd like get440303:27:42.280 --> 03:27:44.040



his confusing. He's like, oh, yeah, white people look the440403:27:44.079 --> 03:27:47.719



same to me. And we thought it was so funny440503:27:47.879 --> 03:27:50.200



because the truth is it's like we do to them440603:27:50.239 --> 03:27:52.000



just like they doesn't. And that doesn't mean a racist.440703:27:52.040 --> 03:27:56.120



It's literally a biological thing in your brain. However, Uh, Like,440803:27:56.239 --> 03:27:58.360



my favorite story ever is of the guy and I440903:27:58.360 --> 03:28:02.719



always forget his name, musician and he he basically started441003:28:02.760 --> 03:28:05.000



like trying to convert Couclux clan members.441103:28:05.719 --> 03:28:07.840



It's a shame that I forgot his name you're talking about.441203:28:08.040 --> 03:28:10.959



Uh, I'm gonna find it because it's but it's so441303:28:11.079 --> 03:28:13.639



amazing because he basically decided, like I'm going to just441403:28:13.639 --> 03:28:17.760



have conversations these people. I'm gonna invite them to Yeah.441503:28:18.120 --> 03:28:20.440



I was just not I can't remember his name, but441603:28:20.520 --> 03:28:22.239



he literally would just have these people over for dinner,441703:28:22.280 --> 03:28:25.920



like viehmaily racist people that say he you know, like441803:28:26.760 --> 03:28:29.360



and he has the hoods of all the people he converted.441903:28:29.360 --> 03:28:33.319



And the game was yeah, probably I didn't see it,442003:28:33.319 --> 03:28:35.159



but I mean to me, that is like.442103:28:35.600 --> 03:28:37.280



I just brought them because I might have triggered his name,442203:28:37.360 --> 03:28:39.719



I forget. But yeah, that was a great story.442303:28:39.959 --> 03:28:42.399



The reason what's so wonderful about that is like he442403:28:42.479 --> 03:28:45.319



had every like I would have discounted all those people,442503:28:45.760 --> 03:28:47.600



like I would not have wanted I would not have442603:28:47.639 --> 03:28:49.760



invited those people to dinner, Like I am definitely like442703:28:49.799 --> 03:28:52.760



a justice guy where I'm like, nope, you've got an442803:28:52.799 --> 03:28:56.600



evil opinion about something, and I'm I'm discounting you completely.442903:28:56.959 --> 03:28:58.280



And the thing is, we're not just doing that with443003:28:58.319 --> 03:29:01.319



stuff like racism. We're doing that with you voted for443103:29:01.399 --> 03:29:05.000



Donald Trump. I'm I'm done with you. You voted for443203:29:05.079 --> 03:29:06.600



Kamala Harris, I'm done with you.443303:29:06.200 --> 03:29:06.600



You.443403:29:06.959 --> 03:29:09.159



You know, we're doing that with everything, And so we're443503:29:09.159 --> 03:29:11.159



isolating where we're like only going to be around people443603:29:11.200 --> 03:29:14.319



that we think like and look like. And I think443703:29:14.360 --> 03:29:16.719



his example is better. It's like, no, and now I443803:29:16.760 --> 03:29:18.840



think that's an extreme example. I'm not saying everyone should443903:29:18.879 --> 03:29:21.280



invite racists over for dinner like that's fine, Like it444003:29:21.280 --> 03:29:22.600



would be crazy, but it was.444103:29:22.600 --> 03:29:26.479



It was. It was a great great example of going444203:29:26.520 --> 03:29:31.360



out and really really you know, taking a situation head444303:29:31.360 --> 03:29:33.639



on and and just saying, you know, what I know,444403:29:33.760 --> 03:29:35.079



I know what I heard, I know what's out there.444503:29:35.120 --> 03:29:37.440



I'm going to take all this push that bullshit aside444603:29:37.440 --> 03:29:39.000



and I'm going to make these people talk to me,444703:29:39.040 --> 03:29:41.120



and I'm going to find out why they feel the444803:29:41.159 --> 03:29:41.639



way they do.444903:29:41.840 --> 03:29:44.440



And what happened every time. I mean, I don't know445003:29:44.479 --> 03:29:48.360



if there's actually every time, but according to the most445103:29:48.360 --> 03:29:51.200



of them, yeah, is that like like all of a sudden,445203:29:51.200 --> 03:29:53.920



they're like having a conversation with a black person for445303:29:53.959 --> 03:29:57.520



the first time in their life, and they realized that, wait,445403:29:57.520 --> 03:30:00.159



we're a lot alike, like you love your family, I445503:30:00.159 --> 03:30:02.559



love my family, like we have a lot of the445603:30:02.559 --> 03:30:05.040



same value like well, and eventually just the scales fall445703:30:05.079 --> 03:30:07.079



off your eyes and you realize this is silly. And445803:30:07.159 --> 03:30:09.639



I have found that with political conversations, like I don't445903:30:09.680 --> 03:30:11.959



ever no one ends up I'm not just gonna say446003:30:11.959 --> 03:30:14.120



no one ends up hating me. But I feel like446103:30:14.159 --> 03:30:18.479



every time I have even a very like, very passionate446203:30:18.559 --> 03:30:21.120



argument with someone about something that I like strongly believe446303:30:21.120 --> 03:30:24.799



they're wrong on, like I think we can do that446403:30:24.920 --> 03:30:28.360



in America without vilifying the other side or thinking they're evil.446503:30:28.360 --> 03:30:30.680



Like I go into thinking like I think that a446603:30:30.719 --> 03:30:35.000



lot of the progressive ideas are looney tunes. But I446703:30:35.079 --> 03:30:37.879



do I don't think it's because they want to destroy America. Well,446803:30:38.440 --> 03:30:41.680



I think they have genuine I think underneath it they446903:30:41.719 --> 03:30:44.600



have good intentions. Now, like good intentions don't matter at447003:30:44.639 --> 03:30:47.280



all to me, because I've seen the horrors that come447103:30:47.319 --> 03:30:50.639



out of good intentions sometimes, Like and I've.447203:30:50.440 --> 03:30:52.879



Had I've had the situation you're talking about before, because447303:30:52.920 --> 03:30:55.520



even you know, on my show, it's easy, it's easy447403:30:55.559 --> 03:30:57.159



on even some of my earlier stuff for people to447503:30:57.200 --> 03:30:59.920



pay me as being some maga guy. Yeah, and then447603:31:00.159 --> 03:31:02.399



we get to talking and it's like they will come447703:31:02.479 --> 03:31:04.120



at me a certain way, and then by the end447803:31:04.159 --> 03:31:07.799



it's like they realize it's not what I am, you know.447903:31:08.200 --> 03:31:10.079



And and again I don't know, I'm really sure what448003:31:10.120 --> 03:31:11.520



I am anyway. I know I'm conservative, but I think448103:31:11.520 --> 03:31:13.559



I'm more like you. I'm not, I think, kind of448203:31:13.559 --> 03:31:14.280



homeless in that.448303:31:14.360 --> 03:31:16.280



You got to treat people as individuals. We're not very448403:31:16.280 --> 03:31:18.360



good at that, as zooming out to a country of448503:31:18.360 --> 03:31:20.719



three hundred and thirty million people and being able to448603:31:20.760 --> 03:31:23.680



talk as people as individuals, because that's really hard. It's abstract.448703:31:23.719 --> 03:31:26.319



It's too hard to think and so like them. So448803:31:26.360 --> 03:31:29.600



we lump everyone together and then we blame you know,448903:31:29.600 --> 03:31:31.840



if one person does something bad from that crew, we449003:31:31.879 --> 03:31:34.040



say that applies to all of them. Republicans are doing449103:31:34.079 --> 03:31:38.200



that with transgenders right now. Again statistically, yeah, maybe there's449203:31:38.200 --> 03:31:41.559



been eight trans shooters, but like even then, like, let's449303:31:41.559 --> 03:31:44.159



just look at the pattern. Most of them have been white, young,449403:31:44.200 --> 03:31:44.559



and male.449503:31:44.639 --> 03:31:47.360



Does that mean right? Like, so what does that mean? Right?449603:31:47.639 --> 03:31:47.840



You know?449703:31:47.879 --> 03:31:49.559



So it's like do we have to like, no, we449803:31:49.600 --> 03:31:51.280



don't have to do that. We can say that person449903:31:51.319 --> 03:31:53.440



behave badly, or we can even say that like we450003:31:53.520 --> 03:31:55.719



think that some of the ideology influenced it. I think450103:31:55.760 --> 03:31:58.479



that's even totally fair to say true. But to try450203:31:58.479 --> 03:32:01.120



to say, like Donald Trump wants to take guns rights450303:32:01.159 --> 03:32:03.479



away from all transgender people, you know, and like good450403:32:03.520 --> 03:32:06.399



for the NRA for being like, nope, we actually think450503:32:06.440 --> 03:32:09.760



that's not legal. You cannot take someone's Second Amendment rights450603:32:09.760 --> 03:32:11.040



away because they're transgender.450703:32:11.639 --> 03:32:12.920



Let's let's wrap this up.450803:32:12.959 --> 03:32:14.639



Yeah, it sounds good because I've hear it went way450903:32:14.639 --> 03:32:15.000



too long.451003:32:15.239 --> 03:32:18.079



No, no, it's it's it's fine. But you know, here's451103:32:18.120 --> 03:32:21.319



to talking things out and coming up with ideas and451203:32:21.319 --> 03:32:24.280



hopefully somebody hears some of these ideas, mostly from you,451303:32:24.319 --> 03:32:30.440



by the way, and implements these as solutions. But uh, yeah,451403:32:30.479 --> 03:32:31.520



you know, I have a feeling I'm going to be451503:32:31.559 --> 03:32:34.200



staying in touch with you, and I love to I451603:32:34.280 --> 03:32:36.520



need to have you on mind too. Yeah, I'd happy.451703:32:36.840 --> 03:32:38.040



I would love to have you on some time and451803:32:38.079 --> 03:32:40.159



we'll try to narrow the discussion because I try to451903:32:40.200 --> 03:32:41.920



keep minds an hour because I just most people don't452003:32:41.920 --> 03:32:44.479



want to hear me for any longer than that. But452103:32:46.159 --> 03:32:48.440



I got to start giving myself a hard out, maybe452203:32:48.680 --> 03:32:50.600



because otherwise I'll just talk about this stuff forever because452303:32:50.600 --> 03:32:51.280



I think it matters.452403:32:51.680 --> 03:32:56.079



That's all right, man, Well thank you. I'm sure, like452503:32:56.120 --> 03:32:58.760



I said, I know, I'm going to be talking to it. Yeah, yeah,452603:32:58.799 --> 03:33:01.200



for sure. Of course, everybody please check out blakes podcast452703:33:02.319 --> 03:33:04.760



Homeless Conservative, correct the Homeless Conservative.452803:33:04.799 --> 03:33:07.559



So that's on any of the podcast things, YouTube everywhere.452903:33:07.680 --> 03:33:10.559



You know how the internet works, The Homeless Conservative.453003:33:10.600 --> 03:33:12.120



I should come out if you could listen to my show,453103:33:12.159 --> 03:33:14.799



you could listen to Blake's for sure. It's easy enough,453203:33:15.200 --> 03:33:23.920



all right, appreciate it tas your content field intention devils453303:33:24.799 --> 03:33:25.959



higher redemption.453403:33:26.360 --> 03:33:28.840



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