Sept. 24, 2025

Blake Fischer - The Homeless Conservative

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Blake Fischer is a political junkie and host of 'The Homeless Conservative' podcast. Blake and I have a 3 hour conversation about everything politics today in 2025 from Charlie Kirk’s assassination, to the state of the Conservative Party and Donald Trump, to Palestine, Israel, and the war in Ukraine. We leave no stone unturned in this discussion, so get ready for a conversation that you will definitely feel a part of and find yourself giving answers to our questions.

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Bush. All right, welcome back around to Blaze's audience today.

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I have Blake Fish with me. He's homeless. It's sterrifically

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homeless anyway, metaphorically. Yeah, also the Homeless Conservative podcast. And

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from what I can tell, from what I can find,

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you've been at this for is it two years or

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is a little longer?

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A little longer, but basically two years? Yeah, I started

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a couple summers ago.

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Okay. I was wondering about that because when I was

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listening to your show and looking at kind of what

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you're doing, we're a little similar, except I use a

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lot more colorful language than you do. From what I notice, Yeah,

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you're a lot more reserved than I am when it

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comes to that.

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It's because I know my mom listens, and I know

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she'll get onto me if I know. I mean, it's

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also just sort of my personality. I guess I mostly

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curse at myself in real life, not at other people.

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I hear you, Why don't you explain? Because the reason

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I want you to explain why you conser yourself homeless

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because I believe, uh, where you're at right now represents

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a lot of America. To be quite honest, I feel

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I feel like a lot of people don't believe they're

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necessarily like right or left. Necessarily they have like a

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leaning right, maybe a proclivity towards certain beliefs or certain

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ways of living, but not necessarily like all the way

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over the fence anymore. And then that's kind of my take.

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I wonder what led you to where you're at now?

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It will?

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I mean, so, I've been interested in politics for a

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really long time. I would say I'm a political junkie,

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and I have been for much longer than normal people are.

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And I do it, and I'm I would not suggest

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most people pay as close attention as I do. I

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don't think it would actually be healthy if everyone did.

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I don't think everyone needs to. And so it's not

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especially if you, especially if you don't like put some

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guardrails up to like things that I'm not going to

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read because they're just going to make me furious all

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the time.

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Stuff.

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So, you know, I've always been interested in stuff, but

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I've always been really interested in the ideas and principles.

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And I spent my teens and twenties, you know, arguing

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with friends, and I spent my twenties in a band.

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So pre iPhone, you had a lot of time to

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just like be in the car talking with people. Right,

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So I had these kind of discussions with friends all

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the time that I disagreed with. It was never not

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civil like. It was always like I was a friends

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a musician. Most of my friends are more liberal than

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I am. Just the nature of that, right, the arts

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and stuff. I live in Oklahoma, the reddest state in

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the country. If you're looking at like the last three

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elections have been every single county went Republican. So there's

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not much, you know, that's very much. You are in

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one of those two worlds, and there is maybe less

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of the middle thing you were talking about as far

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as the nuance there. But the point is I can

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have these conversations with anyone. And then I felt like

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Donald Trump came along, and he's he's a symptom of

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the problem, but not sort of escalated under him to

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where the Republican Party specifically stopped being about ideas and

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it started being about whatever he said and that might

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change day to day, and we were abandoning things that

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I really cared about, like I think the Constitution is

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the thing that matters, and if it's not that way

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in the Constitution and we're doing it a different way

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and it's not working.

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Well.

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It's like, well, maybe we should do it the way

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that the Constitution says we'd do it. And so I

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don't like the executive branch getting more and more powerful

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all the time, and the parties just conceding that power

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to them from Congress, which is supposed to be the

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more powerful branch. Like by every they're not co equal,

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Like Congress has way more powers written in the Constitution

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than either of the other branches, and they just like

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over decades and decades, I mean really it's going back

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one hundred years, they've just slowly capitulated that. And I

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felt like it really ramped up with Trump specifically, and

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I could just see the writing on the walls of like,

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this does not end well, because all this does is

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give someone else permission to do the bad thing, and

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then because they do the bad thing, Replicans come back

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and go, well, Biden did the bad thing, and so

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it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. And

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at the same time that that was happening, where I

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was just worried about some of the procedural and institutional

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things that were going on under Trump, that I could

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be like, even if I agree with him on the

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principle here that we're talking about, like I would be like,

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for example, I would say, I am not in this,

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I'm not really in the middle. I'm very conservative. But

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that definition is changed completely, Like now the definition of

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conservative is do you are you maga?

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Are?

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Do you support every single thing that Trump says, even

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if it's different than the thing you said yesterday. Conservative

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is saying I think the Constitution matters, and I think

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that the institutions do matter, and I do think that

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we're blowing all this up for no reason. And that

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just became out of like I did not. I'm still

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a Republican. I've not left the Republican Party, but the

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Republican Party doesn't want anything to do with me. I mean,

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I'm told all the time I get more hate from

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Republicans than I do from Democrats.

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Because they.

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Just see the disloyalty and say, well, that's it, that's

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what being a conservative means now, And I just go,

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I don't think that's true, and I don't think that

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should be how we think of politics at all. I

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do not like cult of personality stuff and that's what

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politics has completely become. And then, like I said, this

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is not solely a Trump issue. I had massive problems

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with the Democrats idolized and made Obama a sort of

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messiah figure within their party, and the country kind of

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went crazy for some of that stuff. That just was

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he got a Nobel Peace Prize without doing anything. There

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was some weird messianic stuff going on with Obama too.

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This is not a just a Trump problem. It's just

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that I am more comfortable saying I'm going to call

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up my side because I think there's plenty of stuff

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going on the reason I started the podcast. Plenty of

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stuff where I is calling out the left. And if

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you turned on well I did this one time. I

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loved late night television as kids stuff. I love Letterman,

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I love Craig First and several of them, but I

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hadn't watched it a long time. It's just not that

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interesting to me. And as much as I like politics,

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I don't want my entertainment at night to be all

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about politics. And that's what all the shows had come about.

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But when Greg Gupfield took over, like he was winning

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the ratings in the late night War on Fox News

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and I never watched the show, and I was just like, oh,

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I'm kind of interested in seeing that's interesting, right, It's

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at least interesting that more people are watching that on

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cable than they're watching the CBS late show that's been

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there for thirty years. And all these kind of staples,

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and Wilbert's show and his on the same night, you

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would not have known that the same things that they

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would not You could not tell they were recorded the

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same day because this is during the Biden minister and

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you could tell, like Colbert's about Democrats Biden, even though

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some of it's so plainly easy to make the joke about,

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and you're supposed to be a comedy show. Same thing

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on the other thing, nothing bad about Trump, nothing bad

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about MAGA, nothing bad about Republicans. And I just was like,

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this is not good for America. This is not good

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for Americans. It's not good for an informed citizenry. And

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I feel better about being like, look, I am full

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on most of the issues. If we actually sat down

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and said, like, how do you feel about picket free

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markets or you know, free speech or you know, pick

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your thing, gun rights, whatever the thing is, we probably

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agree on those things, except that most Republicans have abandoned

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those things. They're loyal to Donald Trump, and especially the

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leaders in the Republican Party have done that.

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Because they have to.

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They're bullied, they're threatened, and I just it really bothers

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me when people pretend to believe something that they don't.

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I think there's nothing worse than that, and in politics,

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it's just not necessary. And so I wanted to start

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this thing be like, hey, I think there's a lot

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of people that I agree. I think there's a lot

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of people that feel the same way as I do.

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Probably they feel like neither party really defines them. Well, well,

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because those parties have demanded and the Democrats do this too,

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where they've demanded you have to be with us on

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book boop and then there's a big long list of

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things that you have to agree with them on. And

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so there are no pro life Democrats anymore, there are

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no pro choice Republicans anymore, there are no Secondmendment Democrats. Guys,

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Republican you know, it's like, you pick those big issues

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that we've been fighting about for a long time, but

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it's gotten even more am minuition than that. Every single

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thing that happens every day becomes are you pro this

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or against it? It's my least favorite question, are you

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pro Israeli into it? I'm like, you can't boil down

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a giant geog like geopolitical situation into are you for

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it or you against it? Because it's turning versus them,

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It's turning everything into they are evil, they are the

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bad guys, And I'm just like, that is not the

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way to do politics. I can call out bad ideas.

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I think we're supposed to keep politicisians in check no

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matter which party they're from, Like, we are the people

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to hire and fire them. This is not Oh, they're

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on my team and therefore I defend their actions and

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I attack the other guy. But that's what politics has

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become for almost everyone else. I do think most of

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those people in the middle checked oubt entirely, and they're

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not paying any attention because it's exhausting and because it

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is really gross. I mean, like most people don't want

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to pay to it because I can see why you

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would just be like, this is gross. Why would I

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want to lie? So I'm trying to do something that

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is reasonable and brings facts that told us the other

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thing that's missing in today's confidence is like, if we

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can't agree on the basic facts first, then it's going

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to be really hard for us to move forward. And

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I just believe that we can have polack conversations with

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people where we disagree and still be friendly at the end.

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Gotcha. Okay, it's a.

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Long winded way to say where I got here. I'm

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just I'm this last couple of weeks specifically has been

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like really overwhelming for me as far as some of

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the gross behavior.

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Oh, I guess I'm gonna pause for a second because

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we're having a lot of dropouts with you coming in

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for some reason, I got a lot of audio, so

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I'm just past for a second that we're going to

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go right back. Okay, right, So, uh, before I had

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to tighten up a few things, you were talking about

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how gross everything has been lately, and I I still

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after everything you said, though, I still believe that you're

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you're representing more of how people feel now because with

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everything's happened. You're right, like, the Conservative Party is not

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so much the Conservative Party that we know. It's it's

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really become the you know, it's almost like you have

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to be a cheerleader for the team. Is the way

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I see it, and no matter what, you got to

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go for your team like it's it. And that's the

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same on both sides. By the way I see that,

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no matter what, you just got to back them, and

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we're trying to push them over the line to gain points.

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And it's just it's become so petty and more about

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who gets the win rather than who's really representing the

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people I believe, And that's what I've been seeing as

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far as events go, I mean, are are we are

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we pointing towards like for example, everybody knows the whole

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thing happened with Charlie Kirk horrible. As much as much

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as that was horrendous, what I'm in is my opinion,

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what I find horrendous is House becomes so politicized. You know,

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he was a podcaster that challenged narratives, whether he believed

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and what he said or agree with him regardless. He

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was just kind of doing what you and I do

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on our shows. We're just trying to get people to

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talk and think about things. And there was no there

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was no need for that, but you know, I saw

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kind of what was going on. I didn't watch it

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because I didn't want to I just felt by then

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I was kind of checked out with everything going on

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with his memorial, I mean, ten hours long. It was

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it was a service, it was a sermon, it was

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a Christian concert, and then there was a there was

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a little bit of remembrance, and then it looked like

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a WWE event. So I feel sorry for Erica by

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the way, because I don't. I don't. I think she

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really wanted to honor her husband, but it looked like

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it got turned into something a little bit more. Yeah,

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but it did bring people together, whether good or bad,

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whoever you want to look at it. I'm sure most

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Democrats look at it as bad. But what is your

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thoughts on how that is affecting us moving forward? Because

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we get to deal politics letter because that's kind of

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like my thing. I love. Oh, I've talked about that

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stuff for sure. You know.

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The what's interesting about Charlie Kirk is that, like I didn't.

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He's talking to college kids, so I'm not supposed to

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be probably watching Charlie Kirk all the time. It's just,

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you know, there are demographics here. It is it is

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a money thing. You know, there are people that you

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know then they know their audience, and to some degree

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that's okay. To some degree, it's good to know, Like

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my audience is you know, conservatives in Middle America or

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it's you know, like that's fine. Like now, I think

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too often in politics we've gotten into this audience capture

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kind of thing where Fox News can't say it like

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they're already dwindling viewership because the cable news is just

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getting older and older and older. And to a degree,

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like Stephen Colbert has the same problem, Jimmy Kimmel has

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the same problem. Like they're like the I think Colbert's

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average age was like sixty two the average, which means

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all those people are dying. And like your audience is

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just slowly disappearing, and so I get that, like you're

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desperate to keep it and stuff, and what you end

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up doing is compromising what you believe and you say

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things you don't believe to keep the audience around. I

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see this happening with the conspiracies that go on on

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the left and the right all the time. It's like

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once that's the audience that encourages you with the racism

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that goes on on both sides. Like it's like once you,

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once you sort of like get a taste of that,

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your audience is not willing to have anything else. And

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so to me, there's just so much of that that's

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been going on specifically over the last ten years, like

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really bad. You've got people that ten years ago, I'd

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say I agree with like a lot of stuff. I

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think they write great stuff. I think they say great stuff.

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Tucker Carlson is a smart guy. I know he is,

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and yet it's UNRECOGNI his Tucker Carlson today is unrecognizable

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from twenty years ago. Yes, yes, in principle, in ideals,

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in everything, and I only can look at that and go,

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that's for money, Like there's just I don't believe anything

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else other than this for money. Jade Vance has been

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four different people in the eight years we've known of him.

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like jd Vance? I'm like, which version of jd Vance?

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I don't know. We've had four different versions in eight years,

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and so I don't trust that when people are not consistent.

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And so going back to the like the Troy kirk

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thing is like, he's not someone that I loved, Like,

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I didn't like some of his style. I thought he

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had given up some of his principles that he believed

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in ten years ago to jump on the populis bandwagon

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that had become the Republican Party and to make more

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money and to have more influence. And you know what,

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this is not me trying to like say he did

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like he still did amazing things. He went out there

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and talked to people who disagreed with him, which most

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people are not willing to do. Frankly, like most people

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are scared to death of actually having a half scared

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a confrontation. They're scared of confrontation. They're scared that they

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don't The truth is most people are not well informed

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enough to really be spouting the things that they are

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on the internet, be it professionally or otherwise, and they

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know that if they actually had to talk to someone.

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do with conservatives, because the entire culture, for my entire life,

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I'm inundated with the culture of the left. It's in Hollywood,

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it's in TV, it's in movies, it's in every magazine

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it's in most of the media. It's like there's that

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bias that's there, and it's been there my whole life,

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and so I know how to deal with it. But

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I'll talk to a progressive that literally has never talked

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to another conservative in their life. They've never heard the argument,

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they've never considered it, and they don't even know the

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basic facts. Like I literally had a friend that once

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I thought you could just walk into Walmart and buy

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a gun. I was like, no, you have to pass

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a background check. He did not know you had to

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pass a background check, And I was like, well, I

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can see why you'd be upset about that, but it's

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your fault that you didn't know that, you know what

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information you do. We all have the Internet. It's made

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us all dumber somehow, even though we have access to

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all the information in the world. So when it came

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to the Charlie Kirk assassination, the first thing, I mean,

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I've been I've been sounding alarm bells for the entire

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time I've had this podcast and even before that with

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friends and stuff that this is escalating, like it's it's

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getting worse and worse and worse in the sense that

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you know, rattle off all the near assassinations that we

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had that were we called assassination attempts, and we had.

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It just came out this week that the guy that

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was outside Brett Kavanaugh's house had a plan to assassinate

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three of the justices. We obviously had like someone breaking

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the Nancy Pelosi's house and attack Paul Pelosi with a hammer.

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we have the Minnesota lawmakers that were targeted for assassination.

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of them, fortunately were unsuccessful. The Minnesota ones were successful

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asassination at tempts because their state lawmakers. I don't think

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they had the impact. And that was on a holiday

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weekend or something too, I think it was July fourth

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or something, so I think it kind of got.

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of like they recognized them, but unfortunately they didn't get

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the attention they deserved.

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It kind of got swept up in a news cycle,

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which is unfortunate, and it seemed more like and here's

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the other thing, is that for the most part, I mean,

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Joshapiro's house gets fire bombed on passover, like what is

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clearly an anti Semitic attack, and we just, like what

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seems like happened with everyone every time we missed, like

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dodged the bullet, you know, metaphorically and actually in Donald

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Trump's case, you know, I feel like it gave people

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an excuse to feel like it wasn't that big of

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a deal that it almost happened and so and then

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also it gave a permission that said, first of all,

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no one ever claimed any responsibility when it was their

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side that did it. And what I kept saying over

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and over again is like every time one of those

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things happened, I was like, this is an opportunity for that,

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you know, if if the violence came from the left,

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for the leaders on the left to say, you know what,

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we've probably contributed to this by me calling Donald Trump

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the worst threat to the you know, like calling him

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fascists or calling a hitler, or maybe Joe Biden should

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have looked in the mirror and said and come out

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and on public and said, you know what. In twenty twelve,

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I told a group of black people that Mitt Romney

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was going to put them back in chains if he

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got elected and that was wrong.

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He said a lot of things in his career, He.

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Said a lot of things right and like and Donald Trump, obviously,

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I thought maybe we could get a change of heart

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from him when he almost gets assassinated, to be like,

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maybe I've been contributing to some of this rhetoric true,

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and yet every single time it happened, we got zero

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remorse from the side that should claim some responsibility. And

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this is not me trying to say that the left

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is responsible for when a single crazy person and tries

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to kill someone on the right. However, those people are

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absolutely influenced by the rhetoric that happens all the time.

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And when you tell people over and over again that

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they have no agency at all to control anything. So

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elections don't matter because they're stolen. We don't even admit

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we lose anymore. We just say the other side stole

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the election. So we're adding distrust to the election the

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electoral system, and Democrats and Republicans have both done that.

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It goes all the way back to George W. Bush

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where Democrats doing it. And then Hillary Clinton calls Donald

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Trump an illegitimate president in twenty sixteen, she kind of

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does some of that stuff. Donald Trump takes it to

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another level in twenty twenty for sure, And so, okay,

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elections can't be trusted. Your politicians can't be trusted Republicans,

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you know, if you're a Democrats, like, well, the Supreme

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Court is like corrupt. They're in the tank for Donald Trump. Well,

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so you tell people every single way of your civic duty,

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you can't do anything about it because it's all controlled,

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or like, let's really go to the real the thing

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that's happening on the right and the left now everything

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is the Jews, Like everything is blamed on like the

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Jews are in nefarious control of everything now, and so

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what do you think is going to happen? Some people

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are going to go the only option I have is

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to use violence to stop that from happening. And most

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of the time they're disturbed. Like the Paul Pelosi attack,

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that guy's disturbed. The Congressional baseball shooting is a little

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bit of that. The Gabby Gifford one is definitely like

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that guy is insane. He thought Grammar was controlling his

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mind or something. These are people that are susceptible to

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the violent kind of stuff, and I have some real

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I have some theories about most of the problems with

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the kind of violence like that. But then Charlie Kirk

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comes along and it's like that guy was not crazy.

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I'm not seeing any indication that he was not in

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his right mind. He absolutely was influenced by the left

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ideology then, and yet the left still can't own it.

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They're trying to pretend this guy's maga or something. And

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I just go, there's not been a more clear cut

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case of someone like we've got the text messages he said,

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I'm doing this because some some hate you just.

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Can't negotiate with.

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And and then you look at poles on like what

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are our feelings on free speech? And most people think

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that the First Amendment goes too far in protecting free

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speech and and and like, yeah, you're gonna get violence.

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And what I hoped was maybe this will finally wake

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people up, because I don't I'm expecting the word attempt

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after assassination, and yet this time it was just assassination.

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Like he's dead.

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We hope, okay, we hope to wake people up, and

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we and we also hoped it would unite people, but

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it literally didn't. It just drove the divide, you know,

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even wider. The wedge was much much greater now. So

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I was I was hoping that regardless of party, people

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could look at this and say, holy shit, like what

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just happened. That's not what happened. Everybody got more fanatical.

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And look what you just spoke about. It is what

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I've been talking about for quite some time as well.

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I don't think this is a mistake. You know, these messages,

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this rhetoric is very intentional. It's absolutely psychological conditioning, period,

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no matter how you want to slice it. Yeah, and

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it is a very book out of the communist playbook.

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Literally like literally is as the Germans would say in

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the Nazis, you know, when the Nazis were in power.

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You know, say a lie enough and it becomes the truth.

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And both sides, by the way, like are doing this.

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It's not just the Democrat Party. It was primarily before

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started with Obama, the Democrat Party, but it's it's no

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longer that. It's not both sides just poking the bear

467
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.519
on either side. And we got to also understand that

468
00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.519
the average person is very their minds are malleable, they're susceptible.

469
00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:47.920
And it's not not because I'm saying they're stupid. It's

470
00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.680
just they're bombarded with all this information. You got social media,

471
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.799
got legacy media, got radio, you got freaking podcasters, you

472
00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:57.079
got influencers all toning the line to make a dollar.

473
00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.559
Kind of going back to what you said earlier, how

474
00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.200
like you said about Charlie Kirk. Not not, and I'm

475
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.920
not bashing him either, but you know, some of these

476
00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:07.599
people eventually they go, hey, you know I can make

477
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:09.960
more money, pay earn some dollars from my family, et cetera,

478
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.119
and they start to go with what works right, they

479
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.400
just keep going down that road, and we see that.

480
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.640
So the responsibility falls on i think, not just the

481
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.119
left or the right, but everybody to recognize this, like

482
00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.680
we need to disconnect, step back and actually see what

483
00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.559
the hell's going on before we engage and step back in.

484
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.759
And the other thing with all of this, where I'm

485
00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:31.640
going to go with this is also how right away

486
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:35.200
everybody wants to not, like you said, not accept responsibility.

487
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:37.240
For example, the person who killed Charlie Kirk, Yeah, he

488
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.599
wasn't a psychotic person by definition necessarily, but he did

489
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.400
get radicalized and The problem we have is we are

490
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.000
seeing this in our education system, also in higher education.

491
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:51.960
I mean when you have literal videos of you know, instructors,

492
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.039
people with PhDs. We're talking, We're talking about professor sitting

493
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.400
down literally telling their students we need to take down America.

494
00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:00.880
Communism is bad. We could argue that could be, but whatever,

495
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.319
I'm a comment not communists. I'm in capitalism. Sorry, I

496
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.799
don't know, I've end up a while, but you know,

497
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.599
capitalism bad, take down America. And yet they're benefiting off

498
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.519
the systems that are lining their pockets. Right, some of

499
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.039
these professor's making you know, one hundred and fifty to

500
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.880
two hundred thousand dollars a year. Insane. I don't I'm

501
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.200
not sure where they're coming from. So we can't ignore

502
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:27.279
that either. There's correlation now, and people want to ignore it.

503
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.799
They want to ignore it and they want to just keep,

504
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.359
like you said, blaming the right the left. This is extreme,

505
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:35.599
but you're right. Trump did not help what this is.

506
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:37.640
I'm gonna be honest. I like Trump when he first

507
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.359
came into the scene because at first he was literally

508
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.799
saying what people were thinking, but he doubled down, tripled

509
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:46.359
down while troupled. He just kept going and he doesn't

510
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.680
know when to pull back. And now it's at the point.

511
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.720
I don't know. I think he likes hearing his own voice,

512
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.559
and uh, you know, we just had he just addressed

513
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.119
the UN today and it was like he was given

514
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.240
a magas speech, you know, something that he would give

515
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.799
to his his on base, telling the world leaders how

516
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:03.519
great he is and how many wars he stopped. Everything

517
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:08.880
he's doing. Yep. But here we are with France and

518
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:13.559
we've got the UK and almost most Europeans nations are

519
00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:15.680
out in right now trying to recognize the state of

520
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.920
Palestine and UK went so far as from what I

521
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.599
read earlier, it might be wrong though that they're even

522
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.359
trying to change the address for the Embassy of Israel

523
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:29.119
to just say po box whatever number of Palestine.

524
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.119
As if they can get in there. Yeah, exactly, So

525
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.519
they're not allowed in there. I mean, I'm also won't

526
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:35.160
let them in there.

527
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.119
It's crazy. I don't know how we're gonna write this,

528
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.200
I really don't. So again, I think the responsibility is

529
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.359
going to fall on people like us. Maybe to be honest,

530
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.319
we're going to you know, people like you telling the

531
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.200
truth people like us in the research and trying to

532
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:49.519
get the word out. And I'm not always right. I

533
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.519
mean no, I.

534
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.359
Mean either, Like I think the thing that I really

535
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.119
always wanted to do is like I'm never gonna lie,

536
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.839
and I'm not going to I'm not gonna say something

537
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:05.000
I don't believe, especially because I just feel like there's

538
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.839
plenty of that going around, right, And you're absolutely right

539
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.319
up with a lie thing. I mean, yeah, I was.

540
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.519
There is a the violence thing. I think the left

541
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:16.759
has a bigger problem with embracing violence. They're the ones

542
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.359
that have said, like speech is violence and violence is speech,

543
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:26.200
Like that's not that's so wildly incoherent and anti American,

544
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.880
Like it's actually anti American because like you either like

545
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:30.720
the First Amendment is either the greatest like I think

546
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.359
it's the greatest thing ever. I think it's the reason

547
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.359
this country works. I think that you.

548
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:35.000
Have to have it.

549
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:39.880
And the left has been more anti that traditionally than

550
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:43.240
the right. They have, yes, and especially when it comes

551
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.920
to labeling things hate speech and stuff. You know, but

552
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.240
then Charlie Kirk gets assassinated and the Attorney General is

553
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:53.279
out there saying there's free speech, and then there's hate speech,

554
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.640
and it's like, no, you are supposed to be the

555
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.839
top lawyer in the country and you should know that

556
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.920
it's not true. And Charlie Kirk himself would have argued

557
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.279
with you about that. He said, absolutely not. There's no

558
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.759
such thing as hate speech in this country and the

559
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.759
Supreme Court.

560
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.200
So do not do you think that not there is

561
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.799
never a case for something is literally classified as hate speech.

562
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.920
I just do not think that there should. I mean

563
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.039
there is not and there should not ever be a

564
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.359
legal definition of hate speech because at that point you

565
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:33.279
are not you are saying certain ideas are illegal. And

566
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.440
the Supreme Court. Look, the most famous Supreme Court First

567
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.519
Amendment cases are dealing with Nazis in the Ku Klux Klan,

568
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.759
which I think everyone would agree almost everyone would agree

569
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:46.480
are bad people and they're evil, and like we would

570
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:52.000
all say, they're reprehensible, they're terrible, ugly, gross, just everything.

571
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.640
We hate about, like the bad side of speech.

572
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:58.839
And yet the Supreme Court said, yeah, but like, why

573
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.920
would we let the government decide which speech is bad

574
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.839
or not? Because once you open that door, what it

575
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.799
turns into is eventually again, let's think about the things

576
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.160
that if Donald Trump could snap his fingers, which he's

577
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:13.640
tried to do this, by the way, he's still trying

578
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.880
to do this right now, and could say certain speech

579
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.799
is hateful. You know, what do you think right now

580
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.200
he's trying to do it. He's saying, if you talk

581
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.480
bad about me. He said this to ABC the other day.

582
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.960
He said they were asking him something about you know,

583
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.960
I can't remember the Jimmy Kimmel thing or whatever, and

584
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.559
he was like, well, what about you guys. You guys

585
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:31.839
do a lot of hate speech towards me, and you

586
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.519
say a lot of hateful things about me. Maybe we

587
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.319
should take away your broadcast license. So, for Donald Trump,

588
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.240
what hate speech means is someone said something mean about him.

589
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.079
By the way, sometimes it's true. It's like yeah, and

590
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:44.559
so that if you let the government decide what is

591
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.720
hateful and what is not. Donald Trump right now would say,

592
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.839
if you say something bad about him, that's hate speech.

593
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.039
And if we say the government gets classify which is

594
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.440
hateful and what's not, Donald Trump gets to decide what

595
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.039
hate speech is. Right, if it's Democrats that were you,

596
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.039
they might say, if you say I believe in there's

597
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.160
only two genders you that might be hate speech, and

598
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.799
we can throw you and for saying that it is.

599
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:14.680
But so let's just pick up yeah again, and look,

600
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.759
you know, I was gonna add something. I was gonna say, everybody,

601
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.720
we're having technical difficulties and it's what it is. And

602
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.279
with spies together, Blake said a lot of great stuff,

603
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.160
but where you left off was when you were talking

604
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.519
about where the government will be able to decide what

605
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.839
is free speech? And yeah, you know, that's where we

606
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:35.759
left off. And you're you're absolutely right, You're you're also saying,

607
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.000
how you know the way Trump is acting like you

608
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.839
can't He's he's basically saying whatever is not is hate

609
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.680
speech is really just whatever's criticizing him, to be honest,

610
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.640
like you can't criticize someone without them now saying oh

611
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.640
that's hateful. I can't have that. Now. What's interesting is

612
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.839
I was gonna put this, I was gonna try to

613
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.200
interject with this, but I'm gonna say the date today,

614
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.720
which is September twenty third, twenty twenty five, because today

615
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:04.720
Google just admitted that the Biden administration was having them

616
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:10.079
literally cancel accounts and monitor people's content.

617
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.960
And they were doing it based on misinformation, which is

618
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.920
just another way to say, we get to decide what

619
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:16.359
truth is and what it isn't.

620
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.440
Also, Blake, what's interesting since you were just talking about

621
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.160
all of this is California is getting closer. I think.

622
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:23.680
Let me look, I was trying to look this up

623
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.119
earlier when you were talking SB seven seven to one,

624
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.680
I believe. Let me confirm that, and I haven't heard

625
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.960
about that a SB seven seven one. So this is

626
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.079
an interesting one. This is going down the road probably

627
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.839
very similar to what's happening in the UK. Now. Now,

628
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.599
part of what they're saying in here, just kind of paraphrasing,

629
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.640
is that California, if you do anything. Now, what they're

630
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.279
gonna do is whole social media platform is responsible, not

631
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.880
going after the individual, but basically if anything that's out

632
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.720
there that is considered to be hateful speech, and of

633
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:59.759
course anything that is directed towards what is mostly marginalized

634
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.160
communities is what they're saying, and then they go further

635
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.079
to define it as you know, each against LGBTQ communities

636
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:13.359
of course minorities, and then there's other language. You should

637
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.519
look that up. I guarantee, I guarantee it'll be a

638
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.559
great episode for you to have. But on the surface,

639
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.680
and this is the problem with the government. You know,

640
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.240
you give them a little, they never give it back, right,

641
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.960
So on the surface, you're like, wow, this makes a

642
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.960
lot of sense, like people shouldn't be saying those things

643
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.359
about these people, but you also can see where they

644
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.920
manipulate this and they can control everything that you say.

645
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.519
And then also you're being thrown to jail, just like

646
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:38.000
they're doing in the UK right now, people are being

647
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.000
arrested for tweets. Yeah. Crazy, and I'm afraid we might

648
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.200
be going down that road.

649
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:49.319
I think we are. I think it's weird because again

650
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.359
I don't want to do any Oh.

651
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:57.599
No, listen, We're good right now. Apologize. I was just

652
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.200
I was just listening to and I was like agree.

653
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.960
It's like, yeah, you know, but look like I'm gonna

654
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.119
tell you right now on this show, you can say

655
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.720
whatever you whatever is on your mind. There's there's You're

656
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:06.960
not gonna fend any of my audience.

657
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.319
I don't I don't hold back. I think that go

658
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.279
for it. I think that the problem with all those

659
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.599
built First of all, I want to say that I

660
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.599
think everyone has the best of intentions. I think that's

661
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.440
the other thing that's really wrong with the politics right

662
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.440
now is that we assume the other side has ill intent. Now,

663
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.279
sometimes I think that's the case. I think I think

664
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.720
Donald Trump cares about his self. I think he cares

665
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.240
about his own wealth, his hi, his reputation. I don't

666
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.200
really think he cares about anyone else. And I did

667
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.680
not watch the memorial service for Troy Kirk because I

668
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.359
thought I just knew it would make my blood boil.

669
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.799
And but I know from what I read the next

670
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.000
day is like he made it about himself. It wasn't

671
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.119
about trus Kirk. It was a campaign rally for him.

672
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:44.960
And he even to say the stuff that he said

673
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.759
were like you can tell. He went on prompter and

674
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.920
he said like, you know, you don't hate your enemies,

675
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.799
and he was like, actually, that's where I disagree with Charlie.

676
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.640
I I hate I hate my opponents, I hate my enemies.

677
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.880
And you're like, man, do you realize how I mean,

678
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.119
let's get in to a different layer of it. Just

679
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.680
forget about the politics. Forget about the fact that this

680
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:08.920
guy's like you're you're talking to the widow of someone

681
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.519
who got assassinated, and the videos that I mean, it's

682
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.119
just awful. It's absolutely terrible thing about what she and

683
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.240
her kids are gonna have to deal with for forever,

684
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.519
for that being what happened to their dad. And it's

685
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.039
so terrible. And he did this at the White House too.

686
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.160
After the assassination, he started talking about like the remodel

687
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.839
at the White House and stuff. It's just like he

688
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.559
he does not have an He does not care about

689
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.480
anyone else. And you can like Donald Trump, you can

690
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.559
support his policies, you can say he's a better choice

691
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.880
than Kamala Harris. I cannot deal with people that defend

692
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.279
him on that. I'm like, well, no, but you don't know.

693
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.759
And I'm like, no, I know. A guy got assassinated

694
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:48.519
he claims to be really close to and he's talking

695
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:52.319
about how they're redecorating the White House. Right, he doesn't

696
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.079
really care about Charlie Kirk.

697
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.039
I think there's two things there. I think one, you're

698
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.440
right or could be right. Two he also made me

699
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.720
an individual that just cannot handle loss or or handle

700
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.079
uh you know those anything that is overwhelming to the

701
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.760
degree where it does require you to be emotionally invested.

702
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.440
I think he wants to avoid it. I'm want to

703
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:15.880
make an excuse for him, but he seems like that

704
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:17.760
kind of person where he just doesn't want to he

705
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.639
doesn't want to address it. He tries to deflect basically,

706
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.039
oh for sure, which.

707
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.920
Is but I don't even think it's yeah, it is,

708
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.880
and I just think it's not. It's not Sincere, I

709
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.840
think it's it's not. Again, you go back to his assassination.

710
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.920
If he sticks to the speech that's the first thirty

711
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.960
minutes of like, that's a that's one of the better

712
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.320
that's going to be a speech that everyone remembers forever,

713
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.079
Like it's literally going to be like one of the

714
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.079
things that can be in the history books. Because he

715
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.639
nearly gets assassinated, he comes out there. If he if

716
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.840
he did that and stuck the prompter, it would have

717
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.880
been great. And stead he went for an hour longer

718
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.639
than that and just started turning into it the greatest

719
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.199
hits of the campaigns. This is why I like, I'm not

720
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.199
going all the way down this road. But there are

721
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.039
there are things that Republicans need to be concerned about

722
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.840
with his age and cognitive ability that I think he

723
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.079
is not the same Trump he was four years ago

724
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.280
or eight years ago, Like he is getting older, and

725
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.119
his mind is not working the same way it did

726
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.159
eight years ago. And I don't want to be in

727
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.840
the party that does the same thing that they did

728
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.199
with Joe Biden, where they just pretend it's not happening.

729
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:18.679
True.

730
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.280
I think that we got to be really honest about that.

731
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.400
So I'm not I'm not saying let's blame that on everything.

732
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.000
He's got dementia. I'm not like the Democrats again started

733
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:26.719
the whole thing. He's dead a couple of weeknds ago.

734
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:28.840
It's ridiculous and.

735
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.760
Well as it is ridiculous and funny, but you know,

736
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.280
not maybe not far off. I mean, he's not the

737
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:37.480
same person who knows that. Look, he's this is I

738
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.360
want you to know. I'm kind of really on the

739
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.400
same pages with Trump. So what I'm gonna say is this,

740
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.239
he knows this his last term, so he hasn't I'm

741
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.159
just gonna say he doesn't give a fuck. Oh no, yeah,

742
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.000
that's he knows. He knows it's that's it. He's gonna

743
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.400
do whatever we can push the envelope. Yep. And I

744
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.320
think with him doing this that the stress and the

745
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.679
weight of everything coming down. I don't believe that, you know, hereingews.

746
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.119
He get push back. He knews good blowback, but the

747
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.679
fact that not everybody is buying in hook line syncer

748
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.440
like they used to, I think is an issue for him.

749
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.760
It is definitely a big roadblock. You know. The Charlie

750
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.360
Kirk thing made it look like large a large part

751
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.280
of the population believes in Trump himself, but a lot

752
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.519
of them were just they're really to memorialize Charlie And

753
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.599
then it got turned into a damn Trump rally.

754
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.039
Right because he has to that that is the only way.

755
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.679
Everything for him is currency. It's either is it actually

756
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:33.239
making me actual money transactional or is it make me

757
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.280
look better? Every that is everything with him, and there

758
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.440
is no There is no sacrificial thing with him. Everything

759
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.039
is selfish. Everything has how does this benefit me? And

760
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.239
I think it's foolish that any Republican thinks that they're

761
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.039
in his good graces. He will throw any one of

762
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:50.559
them under the bus. And he has done this over

763
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.639
and over again. That's why people are like, when people

764
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.400
are like jd Vance is going to be the next president,

765
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.719
I'm like, there's not a chance jad Vance gets out

766
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.159
of this four years without getting stabbed in the back

767
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.880
by Donald Trump. It's just not going to happen because

768
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.440
he does it with absolutely everyone and he's not going

769
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:09.320
to change at eighty like eighty, No, he's only getting

770
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.000
more into the thing. And so I'm like, that's just

771
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:12.280
a realistic I'm not.

772
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.719
So who does already look to though, because a lot

773
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.760
of people think jd. Vance should be great to carry

774
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:19.719
it on. Yeah, but you're right, I don't think he

775
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.920
comes out of this unscathe. Yeah, he's going to eventually

776
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.800
be taking He's going to be the scapegoat, I think

777
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.320
on a lot of things eventually, just like he's been

778
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.320
throwing his own administration under the bus and then goes

779
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.800
back and says, oh, they're wonderful people.

780
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.599
Yeah, there's a couple of reasons I don't think Jady

781
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.239
Vance can be it. Mostly historically, we're always wrong about

782
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.920
this two or three years out. We've talked about Scott Walker,

783
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.719
we talked about Rick Perry, we talked about Hillary Clinton

784
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.719
multiple times. We've talked about all sorts of people that

785
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.559
don't even sniff the nomination. And that's even when we're

786
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.960
like two years out. So there's that vice presidents don't

787
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.159
have a great track record. It's like they're four four

788
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.480
of twelve or something that run the resident. It's pretty low,

789
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.760
not very many, especially if they didn't inherit it vi

790
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.079
an assassination or something. And even those people tend to

791
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:09.440
lose reelection, and so you know, it's not like just

792
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.000
just those facts would be enough to go. I don't

793
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.800
think that it's a given that he's the guy, But

794
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.440
then you compound it with like he's gonna have to

795
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:18.840
figure out how to run for First of all, I

796
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.440
don't think Trump's economic policies are gonna work. I think

797
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.599
that the only saving grace for Trump is that the

798
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.960
Supreme Court says he can't implement tariff's the way he

799
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:29.760
wants to, and he can't do it anymore. I think

800
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.639
that's the only because Congress isn't going to stop him,

801
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.079
even when Congress could thwart him for his own good.

802
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.800
Like the Matt Gates nomination for Attorney General was a

803
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.519
thing where I'm glad, like I can't mind he's my

804
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.199
senator as one of them who's the most one of

805
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:44.800
the most maggot people ever and he was just like

806
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.679
I serve with that guy in the house and he

807
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.440
is the worst human. I mean, it's Basically, he's the

808
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.239
worst human being. I will not vote yes for him.

809
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.920
And you know what, I'm not saying Pam Bonnie's a

810
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.760
lot better, but she's you know, I have a lot

811
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.039
of problems with Pam Bonnie more and character and all

812
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:02.920
sorts of reasons she's better than Matt Gates. Now, I

813
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.920
think Donald Trump all he really wants is a sick

814
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.840
of fans and a yes man that says, you know,

815
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:08.519
he says, here's what I want to do. I want

816
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.719
you to go after my enemies, and they say yes, sir, right,

817
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.599
And so he's gonna get that either way with either one.

818
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:12.960
Of those people.

819
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.519
But I think, you know, Republicans helped Donald Trump save

820
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.440
him from himself by not giving him Matt Gates. But

821
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.079
they're not doing that with tariffs, and I terriffs. I

822
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.800
don't think tariff's when used this way work. I think

823
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.960
that you look back to the last election, everyone was

824
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.599
mad about inflation happening. Tariffs are going to make the

825
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.320
prices of things go higher, and you can't argue with

826
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.800
you can't convince people, Fox News, no amount of MAGA

827
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.239
like brainwashing can convince people that stuff is not more

828
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:43.159
expensive than it.

829
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.199
Was oh it is. It is absolutely anymore.

830
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.960
And I don't think it's actually happened more even so

831
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.360
much because we got these like ninety we got these

832
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.840
like pauses on Liberation Day and stuff, and we're only

833
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.159
just now seeing those tariffs really kick in. So you're

834
00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.199
not gonna really but like around Christmas time, we are

835
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.119
going to see your and to see suply problems. You

836
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.400
will see prices if nothing changes, and I think that

837
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.599
that will be of albatross around JD. Vance's neck and

838
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.199
he's going to have to try to figure out how

839
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:12.760
do I thread the needle where I say what Donald

840
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.159
Trump did didn't work while he's still president and can

841
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.079
get on television and bad mouth be for saying that

842
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.199
because presidents in the past like George W. Bush was

843
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:26.320
not very popular when he left office and Republicans were like,

844
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:28.800
it actually does not help me to have you come

845
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.320
campaign with me. You know what George W. Bush is like,

846
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.320
I get it, like no problem, Like I'm not upset

847
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.599
about it, I'm not hurt. Donald Trump cannot do that

848
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.360
like he, like JD. Vance, will not be able to say, hey,

849
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.039
I need you to like dial it back a little

850
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.760
bit because Donald Trump didn't care about the Republican Party.

851
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.519
He does not actually care what happened. He wants to

852
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.800
the star. In fact, I think Donald Trump will not

853
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.280
relinquish control of the Republican Party. I think that what

854
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.440
will happen is Donald Trump will crown someone that's and

855
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.960
so if it is jd Vance, if it's that's who

856
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.800
he decides to put his weight by, it will be

857
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.440
Jade Vance. But it might be Eric Trump, it might

858
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.440
be Melania.

859
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:10.360
Yeah, but your statement about him crowning someone is probably

860
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.480
the truth, but no different than what happened with Obama. True,

861
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.599
Ohama's been the king of the Democrat Party for years,

862
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.960
and that that's the problem they're having right now. They

863
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.760
don't know who's going to replace Obama.

864
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.719
Yeah, I will say the difference there is that Obama

865
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.159
I don't think wants to be anymore.

866
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.960
It's just I'm agreeing. I was just gonna say that, Yeah,

867
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:31.559
no one has person.

868
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.360
Yeah, because he wanted to, Like when the Joe Biden

869
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.760
thing happened last summer, he wanted I mean, I think

870
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.440
he wanted there to be a primary and stuff, but

871
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.079
he was trying to pull those strings behind the scenes.

872
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.840
So he wasn't the guy saying what needed to happen.

873
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.599
And I think that's admirable. But he is and because,

874
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.880
like you, the Republicans are in trouble for sure. If

875
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.719
if Donald Trump died tomorrow, it would be a mess,

876
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.840
because I think all these factions that are coalescing around

877
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.119
Donald Trump, if they no longer have that threat from

878
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.800
Donald Trump, You're going to see the nationalists. You're going

879
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.840
to see the racist You're going to see the true conservatives,

880
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.920
see the Reaganites. There's gonna be some inviting. The Democrats.

881
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.599
I don't know what their answer is right now.

882
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.280
I mean, I think that party's lost at the moment.

883
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.239
They have an opportunity to get their shit together, to

884
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.719
be quite honest, and really show people what they can be,

885
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.960
because I think the old Democrat Party, when you know,

886
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.880
back in the nineties, et cetera, I thought that was

887
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.840
a whole different party. To me. Back then, they represent

888
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.280
the people a lot more, actually were the part of

889
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.960
the people. But they got away from that once they

890
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.079
got a taste of power, in my opinion, and then

891
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.519
it became the party of the stars and the elite,

892
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.039
and they totally forgot where they came from. And yeah,

893
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.199
but it's psychical, right, it happens. You know, the Conservative

894
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.360
Party was that and then now look at them. Now

895
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:51.760
they're getting used to what they have and now they're

896
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:56.039
being freaking over the top and elaborate and now themselves

897
00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:01.159
becoming elitists. It's the problem we have is gosh, damn,

898
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.039
I just wish our elected officials. And it starts in Congress,

899
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.880
in the House, in the Senate actually just represent the

900
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.440
damn people. And and just you know, part I think

901
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.440
party politics has to go out the window. It's never

902
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.360
going to happen. I know, I have a different view

903
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:18.679
on that.

904
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.199
So what I think the problem is, I think you're

905
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.519
right to a degree in the sense that like you're right,

906
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.639
but I mean, look Donald Trump's campaign, that Republican convention

907
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.239
was essentially Bill Clinton's convention in nineteen ninety two or

908
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.119
ninety six. Yeah, like they're not that different on like,

909
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.440
pick any issue. Donald Trump has abandoned the pro life cause,

910
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.960
he's abandoned fiscal responsibility.

911
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.239
He's never claimed to be a Republican anyway.

912
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.079
He's never claimed to be conservative. He says it out loud,

913
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.320
so so he's already kind of a Clinton Democrat anyway.

914
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:50.519
That's that's who he really is.

915
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:51.199
Now.

916
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.559
I think that there's another Bill Clinton was a much

917
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.079
smarter politician, like in the sense that he just like

918
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.599
he saw where but for the most part, Bill Clinton

919
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.159
saw where the country was going and then and then said, yeah,

920
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:08.239
let's go there. He picked seventy thirty issues and went

921
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.159
with the seventy percent. I think what happened, And I like,

922
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.239
I pay a lot of attention to this because I

923
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:15.679
am like, how do you solve the problem? I think

924
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.440
you've got to figure out what caused the problem to

925
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.119
really be able to solve it. So, like, where do

926
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:24.079
we think this stemmed from? And I think I am

927
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.880
definitely on board with I think this starts with First

928
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.760
of all, it starts with you know, wood Rowlilson and FDR,

929
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.639
with the executive branch trying to control everything, trying to

930
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.039
throw like basically I'm the superiity branch.

931
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:39.360
What I say goes.

932
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.840
I think that's where it kind of starts, the sort

933
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.920
of imperial presidency, and then I think it just keeps

934
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.639
ramping up for the next eighty years and or one

935
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.239
hundred years in the case of going back to wood

936
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.920
Row Wilson. Then I think the problem is primaries. I

937
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.519
think that when the parties gave up the ability to

938
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.320
pick who they're going to run, inevitably, where that's going

939
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.159
to lead is you're going to get fringier and further

940
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.519
to the extremes of your party, and you've opened up

941
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:12.559
single issue groups to control the narrative instead of the party,

942
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.480
so the party no longer gets to decide what the

943
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.400
party represents. You're always gonna have changes. I mean, like

944
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.239
a a Probagan party and the Democratic Party are going

945
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.679
to change over time because the issues are going to change.

946
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.199
And like Democratic there's all sorts of things are gonna change,

947
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.559
and that's normal. But what's not normal is that they've

948
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:34.239
totally flipped on things. And it's more so because they

949
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.119
look at the numbers and go, well, if we is

950
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.039
so a primary. It's just like people don't show up

951
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.880
in primaries. I don't totally quote me on the math

952
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.000
on this, but the twenty sixteen election, which is the

953
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.119
last time we actually had open primaries on both sides,

954
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.000
you didn't have an incumbent in either way. That was like,

955
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.679
if you do the math on how many people picked

956
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.000
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, it's like four percent of

957
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.559
the population because you can't county the states after Trump

958
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.239
nails it. So it's like if you're you know, after

959
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.199
sometimes they wrap this up on Super Tuesday and so

960
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.440
half the state's primary votes don't count.

961
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:10.119
It's just like totally worthless.

962
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.280
I don't believe in twenty sixteen for a second, if

963
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.239
the parties had like overwhelming control over this, they would

964
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.320
have let Bernie Sanders, who's not a Democrat, caucuses of

965
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.679
the Democrats and Donald Trump, who's not really a Republican.

966
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.800
Bernie was a more popular representative.

967
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.480
Right, be their leader, like, be the leaders of the party.

968
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.119
They would go no, no, no, like we have a litmus test.

969
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:32.320
Like I think it would even be good for the

970
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.199
parties to say, for example, we're not going to let

971
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.719
anyone run for president that hasn't been a congressman or

972
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.280
a senator or governor or something like that, like you

973
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.039
just to gatekeep the sort of celebrity nonsense that I

974
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.639
think we're heading towards now. And so I actually want

975
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.119
to give the parties more power. I think that we

976
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.079
stripped that away with campaign finance reform. We basically said

977
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.760
you can't you can't do donations. But the Supreme Court

978
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.599
says and says in United says, well, you can't restrict

979
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.039
it's restricting speech if you say that people can't donate to.

980
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:03.039
Like packs.

981
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:03.679
Essentially.

982
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:10.039
Okay, so I get what you're saying, but let's strip

983
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.440
it down even more to the root of the root

984
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:14.840
of the issue. If we're talking about where we are

985
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.719
now in modern times, the root of the issue is

986
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.880
we got away from common sense and honestly family values.

987
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.320
I'm not being the ultra conservative guy you're saying. They

988
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.360
did get away from all that and we went down

989
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.559
this rabbit hole of love. Who you want to have love,

990
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.519
be the sex you think you are, a gender whatever.

991
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.760
And I'm not I'm not here hating on anybody, but

992
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.039
those things did lead to where we're at because most

993
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.199
people did not agree with it. And I'm not I'm

994
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.000
not advocating for someone can't live the way they want

995
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.719
to live. It's just nobody felt like that message needed

996
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.639
to be forced on the throats every single day they

997
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.639
woke up. You couldn't have an opinion, and you were

998
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:51.800
chastised for it, and then you were canceled. Now I'm

999
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.559
not I'm not that tif for tad guy, because that

1000
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.440
doesn't get us anywhere. But let's go back further. I

1001
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.360
think the root of the problem is that serving in

1002
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:03.840
Congress was never supposed to be a career move true, period, true.

1003
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:06.960
And in the nineteen seventies is when you started seeing

1004
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.519
a drastic increase in salaries. It was never like that.

1005
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.400
It used to be like a stipend. It was like, okay,

1006
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.119
here's a little stipend or bonus for you serving just

1007
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.400
a you know, basic necessities whatever it was. And then

1008
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.679
the seventies when you started seeing salaries going I think

1009
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.960
it was somewhere between sixties and seventy thousand a year.

1010
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:23.800
And then here we are, now we're at one hundred

1011
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:25.840
and seventy five or one hundred and seventy seven thousand

1012
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.360
a year. And then you find you take that and

1013
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:30.159
then also we got to look at well, if you're

1014
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.239
only making this much money, why are you coming out

1015
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:33.960
the other end of multimillionaire as well?

1016
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.000
No, that is, I mean, that is a gigantic problem.

1017
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.760
But a serving two years for one year also and

1018
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:42.920
you get full medical for life and retirement on top

1019
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.119
of that.

1020
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.280
Now there's all sorts of bad incentem structures there. I

1021
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.199
still think what it goes down to, though, is that

1022
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.639
the real So the reason I think the left capitulated

1023
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.280
to the far extreme progressive wing of their party that

1024
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.960
does not even represent a majority of their party, much

1025
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:03.119
as the majority of the country right is because once once,

1026
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.000
packs can get unlimited money, but parties and candidates can't.

1027
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.880
Who do you have to go to for money?

1028
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:08.719
Packs?

1029
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.920
What do packs care about? Single issues? Planned Parenthood only

1030
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:17.000
cares about abortion access and nothing else. In our only

1031
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.239
cares about gun right, Second Amendment stuff and nothing else,

1032
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.840
And picket go down the list. Most packs are single issue.

1033
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.320
There are not a lot of family value packs. There

1034
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.280
are not. I mean there are ones that like my

1035
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.880
but they're all like it's like where the free speech pack?

1036
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.320
Where the this pack? Where the you know, like And

1037
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.559
that's where you have to get the money. And you

1038
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.800
have to get people fired up enough to go to

1039
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.920
a runoff in August for a primary so that no

1040
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.159
one's interested in voting it. And so the only people

1041
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.639
you can get to show up in those situations are

1042
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.559
the crazy people. That is who votes in primary elections

1043
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.480
is for the most part, it's very fringe like, way

1044
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.280
more politically active. They're junkies like me. They're probably not

1045
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.599
as informed though, because they're in echo chambers because they're

1046
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.599
on the far wing of their party, and that's how

1047
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.920
you get really bad candidates. And then what happens to

1048
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.800
the rest of us is November comes around and we're like,

1049
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.159
these two idiots are the choices we have. And it's

1050
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:20.599
because we let a system happen over decades that says, Okay,

1051
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.400
four percent of your party is going to get a

1052
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:26.039
pick who runs in November, and I just think that's

1053
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.280
People are like, well, it's undemocratic to not have primaries.

1054
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.079
I'm like, no, no, no, there's nothing in the constitution that

1055
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.760
says that parties have to They can pick their candidates

1056
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.199
in smoke field rooms. They could do it via a

1057
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.800
raffle if they want to. I don't really actually care,

1058
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.079
but I would love the parties to actually have some

1059
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.800
more ownership of the people they pick. And I think

1060
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.840
it would work because I think part of the reason

1061
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.239
the Democrats are in such a bad position right now

1062
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.400
is because they're crowning of Kamala Harris. First of all,

1063
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.280
they're cover up with the Joe Biden stuffy pissed off

1064
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.599
a lot of people, not just Republicans like my Democratic.

1065
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.480
I do not have a Democratic friend that that defends

1066
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.360
what happened as far as what Joe Biden did and

1067
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.800
the people around him and the Democratic Party, and they

1068
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.000
like they were lied to. Now I think there's some

1069
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.440
there's you have agency to find the same stuff I did.

1070
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.079
It was not a shock when he went down in

1071
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:18.880
flames in that debate because for years I had been going,

1072
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.280
this guy's not okay, like, and this isn't me saying

1073
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.760
I mean, obviously I disagree with him on stuff, but like,

1074
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.400
he's not okay. He cannot be the president. And I

1075
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.079
thought his choice of Kamala Harris was so that's what

1076
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.920
really that was a strike. I might have voted for

1077
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.480
him in twenty twenty based on my dislike of Trump,

1078
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.000
my distrust of Trump at that point, except that when

1079
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.039
he pick Kamala Harris, I go, he is not taking

1080
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.320
the fact that he's old very seriously because he picked

1081
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.559
the least qualified VP candidate of all his options because

1082
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.239
and he said it out loud, because she was a

1083
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.360
black woman. Well, and I just go like, that's not

1084
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.000
a good reason to pick someone. That's exactly it's not

1085
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.000
a good reason to pick someone. And it's not fair

1086
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.920
to her either, because it gives her no chance.

1087
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.840
Actually effect to what we were talking about earlier about

1088
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.199
how we got here. You know that the Democrat Party,

1089
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.840
then they don't they're not seeing it that way now.

1090
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.519
But then it was all about virtual virtue singing, and

1091
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.960
they thought they had a pulse on what the people

1092
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.280
believed in and wanted, and they were just so far

1093
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.119
off the mark they couldn't see it. I see.

1094
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:21.559
I don't think that's what really happened. I think they

1095
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.760
were pressured by the far extreme wings of their party.

1096
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.920
You have to do right, I'm going to get there. Yeah, yeah,

1097
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.679
and you're right as well. So but we let's go

1098
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:36.400
back to what we're talking about with narratives, rhetoric, psychological conditioning.

1099
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.360
Right. Maybe they didn't believe this, maybe they were pressured

1100
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.119
by their donors, as we're saying, but it was enough

1101
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.159
messaging every day out there, whether they believed in it

1102
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.960
or not, they were saying it, people were buying into it.

1103
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.679
And then at that point you can't just you can't

1104
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:53.920
just put the brakes on, right, it is just going

1105
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.079
to it's just not going to like I'm not stopping

1106
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.960
within ten feet anymore, because now I need a distance

1107
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.960
of a thousand feet to make work, and they were

1108
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.079
just too close to the wall. So now the other

1109
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.000
thing is I agree with you and you kind of

1110
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.199
touched on it. But maybe what we need to do

1111
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.280
is I think, listen, we need to get rid of lobbyists.

1112
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.960
To be honest, I mean, it should be more public, right,

1113
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:18.119
I think they should have meetings where they can go

1114
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.039
in front of all the representatives or whichever representative the room,

1115
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.760
so that it's more public and everyone has a right

1116
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:25.239
to hear it at the same time, and they can

1117
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.440
they can state their case, what they're there for, et cetera,

1118
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.599
and then they can decide what they want to do

1119
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.719
from there. I don't believe they should be able to

1120
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.440
donate and going back to serving in Congress, to me,

1121
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.480
it should be at the most two terms two year

1122
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.840
term each four years are out. There's no way you

1123
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:45.599
should be able to get in and be there for

1124
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:49.239
thirty forty sixty years and still have influence. And the

1125
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.400
only reason they are doing this is because they're getting

1126
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.760
power and they're getting money. If we could take that

1127
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.159
away from take those the centers away, maybe that can

1128
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.039
help curb some of the corruption.

1129
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:00.800
So now The only thing that weird about that is

1130
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.840
that the money thing is absolutely happening. Like, yeah, I

1131
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.480
haven't read the book yet, but I'm totally forgetting the

1132
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.280
title of it. But a guy wrote a book last

1133
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.480
year and it's just all about how, you know, how

1134
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.000
they get rich, and it's like it's across the boards.

1135
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.280
It's not speaking engagement in book deals. We know.

1136
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.159
And but the power part is interesting because I don't

1137
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.679
think Congress is interested in power. They're interested in keeping

1138
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.320
their seat, but they're not exercising their powers.

1139
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.360
Is there no power in keeping that seat? Because I

1140
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.800
mean it's all about influence though.

1141
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.840
Yes, no, I actually don't think it is anymore because

1142
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.559
if it was about influence at all, more Republicans would

1143
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.159
push back on Trump, and more Democrats would push back

1144
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.079
on Biden, like they did stuff that was against their

1145
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.239
interest in keeping their seats, even like if you were

1146
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:56.519
really interested in having the power, like well, here's two examples, Okay,

1147
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:01.679
I think that like future thinking Democrat, the future thinking

1148
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.880
Democrats and Republicans had opportunities to take back the reigns

1149
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:07.880
of Congress and make themselves seem a little bit more

1150
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.320
legitimate and throw their weight around and I would say

1151
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.320
with Trump, it's obviously his impeachment and removal. Republican in Congress. Actually,

1152
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.800
they didn't want the uncomfortableness of the death threats they

1153
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.159
were getting, which is insane to me. Also, by the way,

1154
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.199
that's totally that's warping. The death threats that people's families

1155
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.559
are getting in Congress is it's not something that you

1156
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:28.679
should have to worry about, and all that on. It

1157
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.639
be something people have to worry about. But now people

1158
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.800
are leaving Congress. Most of the people that are leaving

1159
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.400
Congress are going, you know, I'm a politician. I signed

1160
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.360
up for this. My family did not, though, and so

1161
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.599
I can't do and so that's a that's a really

1162
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:44.159
bad part of it. But they had They basically chose

1163
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.840
to not piss off the crowd and do the easy

1164
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.599
thing because they just thought it would take care of himself.

1165
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.159
They just thought, well, no, surely, after January sixth, no

1166
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.840
one's gonna put Donald Trump in power again. And so

1167
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.519
they didn't do the thing that they should have done.

1168
00:55:57.880 --> 00:55:59.840
And I think Democrats did the same thing with Joe Biden.

1169
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:03.320
Like Dean Phillips is the only Democrat with any credibility

1170
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.000
to me, because there's no way everyone didn't see what

1171
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:07.559
was going on, and they lied to us, and they

1172
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.400
lied to themselves, and they lied to party and all

1173
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.719
this stuff. And then on top of that, when his

1174
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.360
behavior was bad, like for example, him the preemptive pardons,

1175
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:20.519
especially for his family, I think democrat if you wanted to,

1176
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.320
if you were, if you were a House Republican, I

1177
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.079
mean a House Democrat at the end of his term,

1178
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:29.039
I think it would have been wise to bring up

1179
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.639
articles of impeachment against him so that you were consistent

1180
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.559
about it. And when you're running for president in twenty

1181
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.760
twenty eight, you get to go to Pete boodhaj Edge

1182
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.800
and Kamala Harris and everyone else that wasn't on board

1183
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.400
with it and go so you're okay with President's giving

1184
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.039
pardons their family because you know Donald Trump's going to

1185
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:45.559
do that in a couple of months, right, and you're

1186
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.320
not going to have a leg to stand on. And

1187
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:49.760
so I think there have been opportunities in just the

1188
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:54.000
past four years where they had such an obvious like

1189
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.840
the country would be with them, Like no one felt

1190
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.559
good about those pardons, no one, like J six people

1191
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:03.559
are now making excuses for it. And stuff, But like

1192
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:05.800
you had, those are seventy thirty issues for the most

1193
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:07.679
part when they happened, and you could have gotten on

1194
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:11.199
the board in something popular, and instead you chose to

1195
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:15.400
capitulate to Joe Biden or to Donald Trump. And so

1196
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.039
to me, it's like in Congress right now, could take

1197
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:20.719
like I think most Republicans in Congress know that the

1198
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.559
tariffs are a bad idea, and yet they won't put

1199
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:25.440
their foot down and say we're taking away these powers

1200
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.480
from the president. They know the way he's using the FCC.

1201
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.599
I think it's a great opportunity to like mothball some

1202
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:34.800
of these things. I don't think the FCC should exist.

1203
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.320
I don't think it. I think we've given way too

1204
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:38.880
much power to the federal government.

1205
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:39.920
That time is coming gone.

1206
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.679
Yeah, yeah, and you know so I'm with you on

1207
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:49.000
I just don't think those are the the biggest problems

1208
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.119
with Congress. I think the biggest problem with Congress they're

1209
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.199
not willing to pas. They don't want to pass laws anymore.

1210
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:54.880
They don't want to have to do that work.

1211
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.280
So it's as I've said, and I've heard you say

1212
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.800
it yourself. As a team sport, right, yeah, now, if

1213
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.400
they're what they're doing is in my mind, keeping power.

1214
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.400
Look if you have if you're able to keep your seat,

1215
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:12.079
you keep the influence, you keep control of Congress to

1216
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.480
do what keep your party in power. As far as

1217
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.320
far as you said about Trump and Biden, I completely

1218
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.840
agree with you. I I think there was an opportunity

1219
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.280
to do something on either side that could have spoke

1220
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.400
volumes for the people. But let's be honest at that time,

1221
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.880
who were the choices? Well, right, but on either side.

1222
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.440
But in both those situations, they don't even have elections

1223
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.079
coming up for two years, like they just got elected.

1224
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:39.719
Like it's like like everything about it is primed for

1225
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:41.719
you doing the right thing. You don't have an election

1226
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:43.800
coming up, you don't have a hard vote thing. It's

1227
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.760
just like, do the right thing, And they can't even

1228
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:47.840
do it in those situations.

1229
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.239
I just think there's no But they're just saying in general,

1230
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.039
I'll talk about like presidential choices at the time, like oh, Trump,

1231
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.159
it made sense because he had that momentum already. He

1232
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:58.840
was already saying, oh the election was stolen, I'm coming back,

1233
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.760
I'm gonna take this. Yeah. The thing with Biden, it

1234
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.679
was like who else did your choice. Hillary wasn't gonna

1235
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.039
get it. Everybody else was too young and too new

1236
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.400
to the party yet to really you know, take it on.

1237
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:13.360
So Biden was yeah, But don't you think don't you.

1238
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:15.559
Think in twenty twenty two, after the midterms, especially when

1239
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.480
Democrats did better than anyone thought they would in those midterms,

1240
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.400
don't you think that if Joe Biden, like, just think

1241
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.320
about this alternate history, Joe Biden comes out and says, look,

1242
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.360
you elected me to be you elected me to not

1243
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.960
be Donald Trump, because you know, that's what America wanted.

1244
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:32.840
They did not want Donald Trump. They wanted someone else.

1245
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:34.719
They wanted to return to normalcy, and that's why they

1246
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.239
picked me over all the progressive nonsense in the Democratic primary.

1247
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.199
Like he could come out and say all this right,

1248
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:45.320
and so look what I've done so far. Now, at

1249
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.719
that point, he'd already done the Afghanistan woodraw, which was

1250
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.199
a disaster, and I mean that really his poll numbers

1251
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:52.679
never recovered after that, So he's already he should have

1252
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.960
seen that. But again, both these people have really fragile egos,

1253
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.800
and I think that they are. I think everyone around

1254
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.199
them lies to them too. I don't it's because they

1255
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.559
demand that. And so Biden, I think, really believe he

1256
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:05.199
is more popular than he really was, just like Trump thinks.

1257
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.280
He doesn't believe any bad poles, only believes the good

1258
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.480
stuff and people. No one's going to bring him bad news.

1259
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:11.519
No one wants to bring Trump bad news. But if

1260
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:15.239
Biden would to come out and said I did, I'm

1261
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.159
not Trump, I've and here's what I'm going to do.

1262
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.159
I'm not going to run in twenty twenty four, and

1263
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.400
I want there to be a robust debate in the

1264
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:26.559
Democratic Party for who takes over the reins. But I

1265
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.800
said I was going to be a bridge builder, and

1266
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.440
I'm going to be a bridge in the next generation.

1267
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.320
And so I'm doing that. I'm saying, right now, go

1268
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.039
for it. Democrats, figure this out, and I will. I'll

1269
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:40.000
support whoever the Democratic Party chooses, you know, like through

1270
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:43.480
a normal primary process. If at the same time he

1271
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.920
chose to say, hey, remember how much we were scared

1272
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.679
of Donald Trump and him abusing the powers that we've

1273
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.119
given the executive branch. Instead of abusing those powers myself,

1274
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.079
I want Congress to take some of those powers back.

1275
01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.559
And here's the thing. Don't like Joe Biden was set

1276
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:01.559
up to be that he was a Senator for forever,

1277
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.199
like he cares about that institution. I believe that Joe

1278
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.320
Biden cares about the institute of the Senate. And I

1279
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:12.079
don't think I don't think he want like I think

1280
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.239
he was not tricked, but I think the people around

1281
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.119
him wanted to steal that power. But I mean, I

1282
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:16.800
think he very.

1283
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:17.480
Much still looked.

1284
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.719
Obama owes a lot of credit to Joe Biden actually

1285
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:22.800
knowing how to go to Capitol Hill and make deals happen,

1286
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.719
and Obama was not good at that, and so I

1287
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.000
think he actually owes Joe Biden's some credit, even though

1288
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.199
I don't think Joe Biden's a particularly great politician or

1289
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.360
you know, I only ever has been. But if he

1290
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.280
would have come out and said that and then said, hey, Congress,

1291
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:36.400
I want you to take away the executive branch's ability

1292
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.440
to do this and this and this and all the

1293
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:41.280
things that Trump abused and instead of abusing them myself.

1294
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.840
But no one, like everyone wants more power than they have.

1295
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.280
Yeah, everything you're saying is right, but you know you're

1296
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.320
talking more about political strategy right for either side at

1297
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:56.039
this point, versus what people recognize them doing. You know, look,

1298
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.000
the premptive parton thing was that was at the end

1299
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:02.440
of Biden. It didn't even matter at that point. But

1300
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:04.599
what stuck out to me with what happened to Biden

1301
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.719
was how he handled if kass In. For one, then

1302
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.159
the Ukraine Russia war. You can see where that went

1303
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:12.000
because they chose not to get involved or doing anything,

1304
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.000
put their foot down when they could have. And then

1305
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.719
we can't even ignore the her tapes, the interviews where

1306
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:23.039
actual business associates and family members admitted to what they

1307
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.599
were doing, and then that somehow went away and never

1308
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.039
anything ever happened.

1309
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.119
Well, and we got told Robert hur was, you know,

1310
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:33.000
he got dragged through the mud, and like he's totally vindicated.

1311
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.079
And I don't hear a lot of apologies from the

1312
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:38.719
press that like where's the accountability.

1313
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:40.760
Yeah, no, they're saying, let's go off for an old

1314
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.800
and old guy. But I mean something.

1315
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.079
I think the biggest the problem though, is that, well,

1316
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:48.639
first of all, I think Donald Trump and Joe Biden

1317
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:50.400
are a lot more similar than they are different. I

1318
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.000
think they both have fragile egos. I think that intellectually,

1319
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.400
you know, I think there's a lot of there's and honestly,

1320
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.079
they both do not give a crap about the Constitution whatsoever.

1321
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.519
Joe Biden over and over again tried to forget student debt,

1322
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.199
even though Supreme Court kept coming back and be like,

1323
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:03.400
you don't.

1324
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.559
Have power to do that.

1325
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.360
Congress does, right, and Donald Trump does the same thing.

1326
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.559
It's like my way or the highway. And I think

1327
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.840
there's this weird thing where when people get in power

1328
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:16.360
either party. For most of my life now, especially since

1329
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.559
twenty ten, i'd say is we've got to do everything.

1330
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.920
We got to cram everything into these next two years

1331
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:24.920
because we're never going to get another chance again. It's like,

1332
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.760
even when they're in power, they act like the party

1333
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:31.719
that's out of power. And I think that clearly when

1334
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.880
you have twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty

1335
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.679
four four elections in a row, that we keep just

1336
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:38.920
going nope, nope, nope, nope, we're just going back and forth,

1337
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:41.679
that says that people are not like they're going, let's

1338
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.960
give these other guys. We're really just firing one person.

1339
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:45.840
It's just that we have to hire. We only have

1340
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:46.719
one higher option.

1341
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:47.360
Right.

1342
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.920
Every time this happens when it comes to the president specifically.

1343
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.199
That's kind of what my poem was earlier, is exactly

1344
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.719
what you just said. You just said it better than

1345
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.440
I did. Yeah, it's just like they don't have it.

1346
01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:58.639
It's like what choice do we have?

1347
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.639
And that's where I go, Okay, we've got to move

1348
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:02.880
backwards from that, and we got to say, first of all,

1349
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:04.880
the president's not that important. We've got to go back

1350
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:09.559
to the president being properly in the president's role. And

1351
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:11.800
we just moved so far away from what Article two

1352
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.760
of the Constitution says, and Congress has advocated so much

1353
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.920
of their power to the executive brandch like that has

1354
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.199
to get back in order. That will, unfortunately take a

1355
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.079
president and a Speaker of the House that are willing

1356
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:26.000
to do it of the same party. We can't even

1357
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.880
get a president that does the right thing. Like I said,

1358
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:30.239
Joe Biden could have said, I want Congress to take

1359
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.679
back their power. If they didn't at that point, he

1360
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:34.960
can be like I tried, and Congress wouldn't do it.

1361
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:38.079
You know what I mean? Right, But you you're going

1362
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.000
to need end like Congress is all sorts of I mean,

1363
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.760
we could spend weeks talking about what you're on Congress,

1364
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.320
because it's not just the stuff you're talking about, it's

1365
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.039
also just the process of how it works. It's all

1366
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.239
top down leadership. There's no committee stuff bubbling up like

1367
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.960
we're not allowing like basically no one has any power.

1368
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:53.920
All you do when you go to Congress is fundraise

1369
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.880
for years. You don't ever get to write a bill.

1370
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:58.599
You probably don't get a vote on a bill. I mean,

1371
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.320
Congress has passed three bill I think since Donald Trump

1372
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:02.800
can president. It's been eight or nine months.

1373
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:05.880
And the pork man, I mean, come on, can we

1374
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.599
on some of these? Can we have them single subject bills?

1375
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:10.239
Can we do that?

1376
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.800
Can I give you another unpopular opinion that I was.

1377
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.559
I was swayed on. I used to be similar. I

1378
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.639
was like, this is a waste. It would be it's

1379
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.199
basically pennies on the dollar if you take all the pork,

1380
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.599
if you actually put more pork and stuff to get

1381
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:27.440
people to compromise in the sense that like that's because that's.

1382
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:28.079
What that's all it is.

1383
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:32.519
Why And the point is like if you could get like,

1384
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.760
for example, like a real plan to fix the national debt,

1385
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:39.000
like I'll give you all the pork, you want because

1386
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000
it's like pennies on the dollars on what we'll say.

1387
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.159
I get it, I get it. But like when we

1388
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.280
were talking about back when they were trying to tie

1389
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.320
together locking down our borders and then giving Ukraine X

1390
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:52.920
amount of millions of billions and then tying to trying

1391
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:56.719
those together. You know, yeah, it's important, but they should

1392
01:05:56.719 --> 01:05:57.719
have been separate issues.

1393
01:05:58.039 --> 01:05:59.800
But I think the problem is you'll never get a

1394
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:05.039
call loungerst that votes on single issue stuff. It's like

1395
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:07.840
they can't be seen to have voted no on the thing.

1396
01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:09.320
And that's why they don't bring stuff to the floor

1397
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.159
at all anymore. They don't even want to have to

1398
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:14.199
vote no on the thing. You're right, huh, you know,

1399
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.000
And so like there's so many processes that are wrong

1400
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.519
with and there's some there's some really interesting ways I've

1401
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:21.639
been SaaS is someone I really like, who was the

1402
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.039
senator from Nebraska. He's not anymore, but he's had some

1403
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.400
he wrote I think is Washington Post Times. I can't

1404
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:27.760
remember it, like a whole article about like here's some

1405
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.159
things I would change about the Senate that don't require

1406
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:32.199
it's like just rule changes. Literally, we don't have to

1407
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.760
like get an amendment or anything. It's like, I think

1408
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.960
they should live together. I think we should literally have

1409
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.199
like congressional dorms of sort where you're actually spending time

1410
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:42.199
with these people and stuff like that. They're just all

1411
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.199
these things that were like and and so you know,

1412
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:51.679
it's like my problem is that everyone, like everyone excuses

1413
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.119
the behavior on their side. No one's ever upset about

1414
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.920
the corruption or the or the power grabs or the

1415
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.119
unconstitutionality or even the violent excuse me of violence, Like

1416
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.320
no one ever calls that on their side, because it's

1417
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.280
not just a team sport. It's become a religion for

1418
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:12.199
a lot of people, Like this has replaced religion as

1419
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.559
people's really like people didn't leave religion, they just found

1420
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:17.880
another one. And the other one is now And you

1421
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.000
think about it, like look at like the messianic stuff,

1422
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.440
like I said, with Obama and Trump, and it's it's creepy.

1423
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.199
Like I'm a Christian and it thoroughly grosses me out

1424
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.320
because I'm like, Jesus does not you know, Jesus does

1425
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:31.719
not need Donald Trump to save him. Like that's not

1426
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.599
like you're not really you don't really believe in Christianity

1427
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.400
if you think that, like if Donald Trump's not elected,

1428
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:42.559
that like Christians are going to be murdered in the

1429
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.239
streets or something like that. Like you're just not like

1430
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:45.599
you don't really have a faith in God. You have

1431
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.519
faith in Donald Trump and you think Donald Trump like

1432
01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:49.599
God needs Donald Trump or something. And it's the same thing,

1433
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:51.039
Like I said, the same kind of stuff happens on

1434
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:55.000
the left. They just replaced with it again. How you

1435
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.800
talked about the the sort of the way the left

1436
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.480
talked about the stuff that like you can't if you

1437
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:06.599
say there's only two genders, you are hateful. Again, this

1438
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:08.679
is something that ten years ago everyone would agreed on.

1439
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:10.760
You've literally you've been like, why are you asking me

1440
01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:12.960
a question? Is this a trick question? They've been trying

1441
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.079
to figure out what the what the angle is. Yeah,

1442
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.359
there's two genders, like no one would have said otherwise. Right, right,

1443
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:20.319
and again, I want people to be able to live.

1444
01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:22.159
I think what's great about America is that you get

1445
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.800
to do you got to live the life you want

1446
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.520
to leave leap you know, that's the beauty of it

1447
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.279
is that and that's why people come here, and that's

1448
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.479
why it's it's I love that part of America that

1449
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.840
like people get to come here and like my I

1450
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:40.279
mentioned my my wife's grandparents, like our great grandparents moved

1451
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:42.359
here when they were pregnant with their grandpa from Italy.

1452
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.359
You know, almost everyone has some story like that, unless

1453
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:47.840
you're just native American. I guess like almost everyone came

1454
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:48.760
here from somewhere else.

1455
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.600
Yeah, And I like that.

1456
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:52.680
It's like most it's like people got to go make

1457
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:56.439
a different life. And I think that's also for I

1458
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:57.800
think there will be people that do it in a

1459
01:08:57.800 --> 01:08:59.760
way that I disagree with, and I'm also love what

1460
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:02.720
I love. America's like different states can do a different way,

1461
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:04.680
different cities can do a different way, Like if we

1462
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:07.279
don't have this uniform thing, you can't do that with

1463
01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:10.359
three hundred and thirty million people. And the problem is

1464
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.760
the left specifically got into a situation where they were

1465
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:15.960
pressured by their progressive wing or whatever, but they also

1466
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.039
turned everything to a moralistic thing. Everything was black and white.

1467
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:22.319
It was you are either on our side or your evil. Yeah,

1468
01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.119
there was no that was exactly it.

1469
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:24.479
Yeah.

1470
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.000
Yeah, And they did that worse than the Republicans did

1471
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.439
and ever have, in my opinion, and they're still doing it,

1472
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.520
and they're not learning from their mistake. It's like the

1473
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:35.439
trans stuff is such a funny thing to me, because like,

1474
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:39.319
why are you still arguing for guys to be in

1475
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.800
women's sports? Like we can talk about like you could

1476
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:44.560
say that I want, Like we could have all sorts

1477
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.520
of disagreements about like the details of what should children

1478
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.199
be given hormone? Should we have surgeries?

1479
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:50.640
Is it wrong?

1480
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.520
Can adults be transgender? Should they be in women's bathrooms?

1481
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.680
We can have all these discussions. I don't see how

1482
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.760
anyone is still defending the sports thing because it's so

1483
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.119
like voters are just like that's crazy. Caitlyn Jenner says

1484
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:07.239
it's crazy. Who was an Olympic athlete and says that's insane.

1485
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.560
If you have people that used to be men who

1486
01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.560
now identifies women competing against women, it's not safe for women.

1487
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:15.880
It's anti women, it's anti feminism. It's like all the

1488
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.079
stuff you're undoing, all the stuff that feminists try to do,

1489
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:20.439
but like they have to go along with it because

1490
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:21.800
otherwise you're ostracized.

1491
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.560
I I agree with you out Blake, what's okay? I

1492
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.920
didn't think where you go talking about this? But yeah,

1493
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.439
I didn't talk. But since we're talking about it, my

1494
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:36.720
thing is this, I don't believe we should be celebrating

1495
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:40.720
sexual preference. We should be celebrating humans, and whatever I

1496
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:43.000
tell you is that they do in their achievements. The

1497
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.079
other thing is, I don't care what anybody says. If

1498
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:47.399
you want to be trans and you want to have

1499
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.880
that surgery when you become an adult and you're out

1500
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:51.560
of high school and you believe that's what you are,

1501
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.000
go for it. Go for it.

1502
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:55.239
I don't think it'll make you happy most of the time.

1503
01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.239
Like I don't think it's the silver roll that a

1504
01:10:57.279 --> 01:10:59.039
lot of people are on the left are claiming it

1505
01:10:59.119 --> 01:10:59.840
is for you.

1506
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.439
Being though they're an adult at that point. Yep. My

1507
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:07.560
problem is you can't convince me a kindergartener decides one

1508
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:12.039
day they're a different sex. No, someone put that there. Yep,

1509
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:13.720
period totally agree.

1510
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.800
It's a I would just have this conversation with some

1511
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.920
friends because we know someone that it's like they're two

1512
01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.319
or three year old, and I just go there is

1513
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.000
that is or celebrities that have two transgender kids, like

1514
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:34.119
you know, statistically that is an impossibility, right that idea?

1515
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:38.000
That is the well and what my theory on that,

1516
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:39.640
by the way, and by the way, this is also

1517
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:41.399
my theory for I kind of mentioned this at the

1518
01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:44.399
top of the show, like most of the crazies, the

1519
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:46.960
right is trying to paint this thing is like and

1520
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:48.760
I don't think they're totally wrong, but again, they're not

1521
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.359
coming at it from the right. I don't think they're

1522
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:51.720
saying it.

1523
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:53.560
The right way. Their approach the right.

1524
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.399
Their approach there right now is saying that, like, look

1525
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.239
at all these shooters and violent people that were transgender,

1526
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:00.600
and they're not wrong about it, and the left does

1527
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:01.239
need to own it.

1528
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:01.960
The left.

1529
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.000
I love how like New York Times apporp twenty paragraphs

1530
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.319
in before they mention any of this stuff, they're they're

1531
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:10.399
they're never using pronouns. They're trying to like dance around.

1532
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:12.319
We're not going to mention anything because they don't want

1533
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:16.079
to admit it. I think the problem the right is

1534
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:20.520
saying transgenderism causes this thing. I actually think they've got

1535
01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:23.880
that backwards. I think that most disturbed people or crazy

1536
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.720
people are influenced by the culture around them. And this

1537
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.479
is something we've been constantly talking about in the culture

1538
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.960
for a decade now or so, and on top of that,

1539
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:34.800
it's not just that we're constantly talking about it. We

1540
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:41.560
like we celebrate people that transition. Now if they detransition

1541
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:44.359
and change their mind, they're vilified by the way. Again,

1542
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.560
I don't really believe in people's choice to do stuff

1543
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:48.920
if you vilify the people that transition and want to

1544
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.039
talk about it, if you call them bigots and they

1545
01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:54.119
actually live the experience. And so I think what it's

1546
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:58.840
become is most people the left has embraced victimhood as

1547
01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:03.640
a legitimate thing to be proud of. And they've done

1548
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:06.560
this with race, and they've done this with all sorts

1549
01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:10.279
of things race sexuality. Again, sexuality is the least interesting

1550
01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:13.199
part of anyone's personality in my opinion. It's just like

1551
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.880
it's just not interesting to me. I don't sit around

1552
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.000
and talk about people's like sexual preferences.

1553
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:20.880
Don't wake up and that's top of mind.

1554
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:22.880
Like, yeah, it's just not important to me, and it

1555
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:27.159
but it became the most important thing. And it also

1556
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.800
is a I've got to outdo the next weirdest thing.

1557
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.560
So I mean, it was like gay people just want

1558
01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:35.119
to get married, and then it's like, well, now we

1559
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.520
got that, so what do we do next, well transgender

1560
01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:39.600
people or like we should be able to have fifty

1561
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.680
different genders or we should like it just like to me,

1562
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:46.199
But the victimhood thing, it's a great way for white people,

1563
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.199
white middle class, upper class people to end up being

1564
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:52.199
a victim. And so if there if their kid is trans,

1565
01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:54.000
it's a way for them to be in a victim

1566
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.600
class if they're you know, and we've seen this with

1567
01:13:57.640 --> 01:13:59.520
all sorts of things. You've seen people fake this. You've

1568
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.439
seen people, you know, like fake being black. You know,

1569
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:07.000
we've seen that happen multiple fake being minority. Elizabeth Warren

1570
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.720
did it by pretending to be Native American for example.

1571
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.479
Like I'm just saying, like people are they it's hard

1572
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.520
when you have this guilt, when the left is like

1573
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:19.279
inundated people with this, like America is bad. White people

1574
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.520
are bad. If you're not poor, you're bad. Everything about

1575
01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:27.720
you is evil. People are going to be desperate to

1576
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.520
find something that makes them accepted in a group. And

1577
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.640
I think that is I think it's a social contagion

1578
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:36.720
because like I'm not saying it, there are legitimate cases

1579
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:41.239
of it, absolutely, but they're much more rare. Like you

1580
01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:43.000
just look at the numbers and you look at the

1581
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.079
social influence of it and how it's hav any more

1582
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.399
like transgenderism, Like the true medical thing that used to

1583
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:52.439
happen was exclusively with like two or three year old boys,

1584
01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.520
and it was very very tiny percentages of people. It

1585
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.159
never I mean, don't quote me on never. All the

1586
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:01.760
stuff I've ever seen said it was almost never documented

1587
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.960
with the little girls wanting to come boys, But it's

1588
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:07.079
women transition to men.

1589
01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:10.000
I have something parallel in terms of theory about this

1590
01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:13.600
because when you brought up transgender and then you know

1591
01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.479
obviously where people are relating that to school shooters. Now,

1592
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:20.439
one of those shows I did, I did recently, but

1593
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:23.199
my recall, I got to have the data in front

1594
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.079
of you it, so I may be wrong on some

1595
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.920
of these numbers, but I just did. Okay, so five

1596
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:31.960
hundred and seventy four school shootings, right, I think it

1597
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.880
was between ninety nine and twenty twenty four or ninety

1598
01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.279
something somewhere in there. Five hundred and seventy four. A

1599
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.199
lot of people fail to realize or recognize that most

1600
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:44.880
school shootings are actually done by students, not necessarily adults.

1601
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:47.600
Within that same period of times, when there was an

1602
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:53.880
increase in medicating your child with SSR rise and other antidepressants.

1603
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:57.359
The correlation and rise is there, and you can see

1604
01:15:57.520 --> 01:15:59.000
I can send this to you later if you want

1605
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.720
what I found, I'll send Yeah. Also within that time,

1606
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.399
when as you got closer to twenty twenty four, then

1607
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.000
I'm not gonna say that, but there's anyway there's a

1608
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000
period of time years where you start to see the

1609
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:17.119
emergence of the transgender school shooter. So I agree that

1610
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:21.279
it's people who are easily influenced, but we also got

1611
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:24.039
to also look at what also led to them to

1612
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.319
be easily influenced, Because when you're when you're under medications

1613
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.520
and you're told that you're depressed and you need something

1614
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.520
to be proud of and something that represents you, and

1615
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.640
then you're getting this rhetoric and narrative to shoved down

1616
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:36.279
your throat, and then you start to believe, well, maybe

1617
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:38.880
I'm not who I am, I'm really this person instead.

1618
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:41.279
And I'm not trying to make excuses, but I'm just

1619
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.960
saying that we can see a correlation between medications and

1620
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:50.920
then the narrative of find your true self, whoever you are,

1621
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:55.159
right within children, and then we see the rise in

1622
01:16:55.239 --> 01:17:00.960
correlation in shootings at schools, which again primarily by students.

1623
01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.680
It's not necessarily adults. Some of them have happened by

1624
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:05.079
adults for the most part.

1625
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:06.600
Yeah, overwhelmingly, it's a lot.

1626
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.399
Of people ignore that. They ignore that, well, it was

1627
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:12.439
a child who actually shot other children.

1628
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:15.439
Yeah, I've got a simpler explanation.

1629
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:16.279
Sure.

1630
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.319
I think the data absolutely shows that the media is

1631
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:26.199
the problem. The problem is we glorify schools and and

1632
01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:29.560
that's my thing with the transgenderism. So we've glorified transgenderism.

1633
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.279
And if you are are like every school shooter is

1634
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:35.520
not mentally ill. I don't like that we just jumped

1635
01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:38.319
straight to mental illness and jump straight to mental health.

1636
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:41.279
I'm like, no, no, no, no, some like this person was

1637
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:43.479
just evil, like now sometimes they are like you, like,

1638
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:45.439
you can see the you can see the prescriptions, you

1639
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:46.479
can see the mental health.

1640
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:46.640
Like.

1641
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:50.079
But the the way, the best way I heard it

1642
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.199
put was like, if you are a crazy person, let's

1643
01:17:52.199 --> 01:17:54.399
say you're schizophrenic or something like that, and you're in America,

1644
01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:56.399
you might think you're Jesus because we're still a pretty

1645
01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:59.159
Christian culture and stuff, and like that's gonna you're gonna

1646
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.520
You're going to pick up the things that are in

1647
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.479
your culture. But if you're crazy in India, you're not

1648
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:09.000
going to think you're Jesus, because that's not that's not

1649
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:11.920
in the culture. So, you know, you look at the number,

1650
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.600
especially these school shooters that like were trans and then

1651
01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:18.720
weren't trands. Especially, you go, that's such a clear social

1652
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:20.920
contagion kind of thing, like they picked up on that.

1653
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.439
And then all you have to do is look at

1654
01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:26.239
the and I don't love I don't I really don't

1655
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.199
like saying their names. I don't like giving them any

1656
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.000
more notoriety and than they desire. Because this Minnesota one

1657
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.600
that just happened, so obvious, what's going on? He wrote

1658
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:37.199
the names of a bunch of other school shooters on

1659
01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:41.239
the magazines Malcom Gladwell really great to get to that actually,

1660
01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:45.279
and so yeah, and so that like to me, And

1661
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:47.880
I've seen some studies that say basically every school shooter

1662
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.960
gets about seventy five million dollars in free press afterwards,

1663
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:53.520
especially if they die in the process, because we're trying

1664
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:57.039
to without having that person to talk to at all

1665
01:18:57.439 --> 01:18:59.880
or get more information from, we just have to scour

1666
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:04.319
their online presence and their social media and their manifestos,

1667
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.680
and we get to theorize on what happens and what

1668
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:09.079
happens you get like a situation in South Carolina where

1669
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:11.880
on a school shooting. But was that North Carolina? South Carolina?

1670
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:13.800
The guy that went to the black church and killed

1671
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.800
a bunch of people, right, I won't recall. I think

1672
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:17.920
it was North Carolina. I can't. Yeah, one of Carolina's

1673
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:20.920
And you know he has this like racist website that

1674
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.920
hates black people. I bet no one had ever been

1675
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:27.159
to the website before and now it's on CNN. Well,

1676
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:29.880
what do you think happens in that situation? More people

1677
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.680
see that stuff, more people want influenced by it, people

1678
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.399
want the notoriety, and over and over again. In these manifestos,

1679
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.439
these last several ones specifically, they are literally talking about

1680
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.800
the reason I did this is because I looked up

1681
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:44.159
to these other people that did it and the notoriety

1682
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.279
they got, and the media won't stop talking about it.

1683
01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:47.960
They know to do it with suicides, but they won't

1684
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:48.920
do it with shootings.

1685
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.000
I think that's the case for some of these people

1686
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:53.239
for sure, because you're always going to have copycatch and

1687
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:57.840
always have people who are like into this serial killer culture. Now,

1688
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.600
that's some of it, and we could also argue that

1689
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:04.960
that is also that is also a trade of someone

1690
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:07.439
who might be mentally ill. But I don't believe, as

1691
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:10.600
you said earlier, that everything is mental illness. For example,

1692
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:12.920
we just saw talk about just happened with the Catholic

1693
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:17.199
school shooting. You just brought up. Yeah, that person if

1694
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:19.560
you look, if you look through the if you look

1695
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:22.399
through his journal, if you look to that person's journal

1696
01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:24.680
and you read everything that was going on, is drawing

1697
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.000
of himself looking looking in the mirror, looking like a

1698
01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.000
demon or devil looking back at him. That was someone

1699
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.600
who didn't feel that they were accepted. They didn't they

1700
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:35.439
couldn't find their place in the world. They felt at

1701
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:37.840
a place, they had nowhere to go, nowhere to talk to.

1702
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.760
I think in a lot of cases that that's what

1703
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:42.720
happens with some of these children or some of these

1704
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.840
people that made become trans I don't think they're insane, no,

1705
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:47.600
I just I just think that they don't know where

1706
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.600
they where they belong. They don't, they don't. They thought

1707
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.039
they were going to find their tribe and their people,

1708
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:53.840
but then they ended up isolated they have they have

1709
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:55.880
to find out that they can't trust anybody, They don't

1710
01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:57.800
feel like they could talk to anybody. All of this

1711
01:20:57.880 --> 01:20:59.800
kids bottled up and eventually they just feel like the

1712
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.279
whole worlds against them. And then what's their solution. Fuck it,

1713
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:05.600
I'm going to kill these people or in the case

1714
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:08.439
of the Minneapoli shoot or what I thought, is he

1715
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.119
specifically or sheet not trying to miss general.

1716
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.000
But it's too complicated again because I went back and forth,

1717
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:16.319
and so I'm just like he exactly, and you don't person,

1718
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.439
don't get the benefit of me saying you're pronoun you

1719
01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:20.640
want when you want kids. By the way, too, that's

1720
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:21.720
just the other thing I don't care.

1721
01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:25.159
I understood, but that person targeted children specifically because I

1722
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.960
this is me theorizing'm a psychologists, but didn't want them

1723
01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.720
to make the decision that he was forced to, Like

1724
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:34.920
he chose to become translated. He's probably trying to save

1725
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.239
them from that. So I know I've been reading into this,

1726
01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:39.520
but when I read through everything, it really was like,

1727
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:41.920
this is a person who's out of place, didn't feel

1728
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.159
they belonged, patting over to turn and thought they were

1729
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:47.279
doing something good by saving the children by doing that,

1730
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:49.319
and yeah, that that is I mean, but there's so

1731
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:49.640
much of.

1732
01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:53.079
His stuff that talked about like how the true heroes

1733
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:54.600
were the ones that killed as many as possible and

1734
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:56.239
obviously kids are easy to kill it and like and

1735
01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:58.479
he was, you know, like it, Like I also think

1736
01:21:58.479 --> 01:21:59.000
that we don't.

1737
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.760
I think there's I think there's a lot of cope too,

1738
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:03.760
though I think that was a lot of that was

1739
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:07.640
him or her or whatever trying to justify what they

1740
01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:08.319
wanted to do.

1741
01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:10.680
Yeah, And I think I also just think there's an

1742
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.920
explanation of evil a lot of times too. I mean

1743
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:15.199
I think that people like some people are just that

1744
01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:19.079
there's evil, like there's no there's no way you can

1745
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:21.880
like there is no way to explain away killing kids.

1746
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.720
Will Oh no no no, that's not what I'm trying

1747
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:23.880
to do.

1748
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:25.640
No no, no, no, I know you're not. I'm just saying

1749
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:26.680
what I don't want to.

1750
01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:28.520
Get to the root of it basically, right, I'm trying

1751
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.600
to find out, like what is causing this, Like can't

1752
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:31.920
can't we got to figure that out.

1753
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.640
Right, But when people go we need better mental health care,

1754
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:38.479
I go, maybe, but that's not what prevented this from

1755
01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:41.720
being stopped. True, this guy with this person just evil

1756
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.800
and they were very influenced by all of the media

1757
01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:48.279
talking about mass shooters all the time. And and the

1758
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:50.640
reason I know that is because he told us, you

1759
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:52.600
know what I mean, he literally like wrote their names

1760
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:56.760
on it. And then you see like the Charlie Cooks

1761
01:22:56.840 --> 01:23:00.439
Kirk's Assassin Rights does the same thing. He writes on

1762
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.640
the bullets rights on the magazines, and you go, that's

1763
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.720
another version of like that was influenced by that last

1764
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.199
guy just a few weeks ago that the he the

1765
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:11.760
Trenick kirkis hasen made this up in a week. We

1766
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.439
literally decided within a week to do this.

1767
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.039
We are a culture that normalized violence. I had this

1768
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:19.359
discussion with the guest previously, literally and it's like it's

1769
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:22.119
become normalized. And when you're looking at social media, it's

1770
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:24.920
like entertainment for people. It is. They no longer look

1771
01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:28.000
at it and feel appalled by it. They're just like, oh,

1772
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:29.880
you know, he should have done this to the guy,

1773
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:31.720
or maybe he should have pulled the trigger, or they're

1774
01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:34.000
just they're just cheering on, you know, cheering it on

1775
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:37.159
getting blown up by you know, a rocket or whatever

1776
01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:39.800
it is. I'm just and I will say, you know

1777
01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:40.159
what I'm saying.

1778
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:41.960
Yeah, I will say Democrats did a pretty good job

1779
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.479
with the Charlie Kirk reaction, like elected Democrats and people

1780
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.039
in power and stuff, like most of them said all

1781
01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:48.840
the right things, including some celebrities that I mean, like,

1782
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:50.720
I don't know if you heard, like the Jamie Lair

1783
01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:53.279
Curtis thing. She was like in teams on a podcast

1784
01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.560
talking about recently. Yeah, like right in the aftermath of it,

1785
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.840
and it was, you know, I know she's like me,

1786
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.479
She's like, I know, she's super liberal. I know she

1787
01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.600
disagrees with Truy kirkr and everything, but she was just

1788
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.319
heartbroken by the fact that this guy was murdered for

1789
01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:10.479
talking and he's got kids and a wife and like

1790
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:15.000
so dehumanizing when we cheer on violence. And I think

1791
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:19.159
so in one way that reaction was like somewhat a

1792
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:23.760
relief compared to like Luigi Mangoni situation, where there are

1793
01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:26.640
literally people still like like selling T shirts and they're

1794
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:30.159
like again, like idolizing this guy. And you saw it

1795
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:31.760
happen with the guy that went into the office. He

1796
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:33.680
thought it was the NFL office he's on the wrong floor.

1797
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:35.880
He ends up killing an executive at Black Rock, and

1798
01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:39.279
people are like, good right, because you don't like the

1799
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.399
company she works for. You think that this mother deserved

1800
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:46.359
to be murdered, and like that inhumane thing is like,

1801
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:47.840
I don't know that we can come back from that.

1802
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:52.359
And I thought maybe it, you know, I thought it

1803
01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:54.119
might be able to get dialed back with the Charlie

1804
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:57.800
Kirk stuff. And it's been so disheartening to see Republicans

1805
01:24:57.800 --> 01:24:59.560
take advantage of it. Like I said, I think that

1806
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.680
whole oral service is it's a sham for everything. I

1807
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:05.439
don't think it was honoring to his wife. I don't

1808
01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:07.000
think it was honoring to him. I don't think it was.

1809
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:10.319
I think it was about Donald Trump and Republicans, and

1810
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:12.720
it's I've seen all sorts of Facebook stuff where people

1811
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:14.640
are like, this is what we do and this is

1812
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:16.640
what black people do. Is black lives matter? I mean,

1813
01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:20.000
I love you know, and I'm like, man, like you're

1814
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:22.399
using it as like a bragadocious way. It's not honored.

1815
01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:26.159
Like I think Charlie Kirk would be appalled by Donald

1816
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:28.960
Trump saying I like to hate my enemies instead, like

1817
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:33.039
I said, like to his widow like, I mean, well,

1818
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:36.239
but he was not, it's not and and and then

1819
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.800
seeing Republicans defend it as a joke, I just I laughed.

1820
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:40.119
So I love it when he's on. I love that

1821
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:43.279
he's honest, and I'm like that, yes, it's honest, but

1822
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.920
like it's so wildly inappropriate in the fact that we

1823
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:51.720
don't have the humanity to even see. I hope she's

1824
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.880
the one hope I have, Like she could be the

1825
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:55.760
person that comes out and been like, how dare you.

1826
01:25:56.680 --> 01:25:58.520
I don't think she will, And I don't think.

1827
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:00.680
It's I think she feels a pressure. I don't.

1828
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:02.680
Yeah, I don't think it's her responsibility. I think the

1829
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:05.079
people that are anyone pressuring her to do anything right

1830
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:07.960
now is wrong. In my opinion, I would never pressure

1831
01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:08.720
her to do anything.

1832
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:10.720
Well, that's what I think happened. Like I think I

1833
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:13.039
think Republican Party, or at least a party of Trump,

1834
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:15.640
saw this as an opportunity, absolutely, and they put the

1835
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.439
pressure on her to turn this into what it was.

1836
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:19.000
I don't think this is what she really wanted.

1837
01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:22.640
No, and I totally agree, But she could be the

1838
01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:24.840
person that comes out and says, hey, I'm the person

1839
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:26.920
that was really affected by this, And what I don't

1840
01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:30.159
want is republic likel call out Republicans that are taking

1841
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.039
advantage of it. Call out Republicans for saying Charlie Kirk

1842
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:37.159
would have been furious at the idea of Trump's SCC

1843
01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:40.439
chair threatening to take away people's broadcast license because they

1844
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.600
said something bad about either even Charlie or Donald Trump,

1845
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:47.000
like Charlie did not like I disagreed with him a

1846
01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.399
lot of stuff. I absolutely believe that he believed in

1847
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:52.399
free speech in a way that he did not want

1848
01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:55.359
to silence his critics. I've never seen any evidence that

1849
01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:57.520
he wanted to do that, and I would love to

1850
01:26:57.520 --> 01:26:59.840
see her step up and do that. I don't expect

1851
01:26:59.840 --> 01:27:05.119
her too if she doesn't, because she's the victim here.

1852
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.880
But that's kind of my last Like or Spencer Cox,

1853
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:12.960
the governor of Utah, said all the right things in

1854
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:15.920
the wake of it, and he was really like proof

1855
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:19.079
like what a leader should be. But guess who he

1856
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.039
got a call from right after he said those remarks

1857
01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:23.039
that were like, this is an attack on free speech,

1858
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.119
and this is an attack on all of us. Donald

1859
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:26.920
Trump calls him and says, you know, they want to

1860
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.199
kill us right, Like, Trump's furious that Spencer, like he

1861
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:31.880
didn't get up there and use it as an opportunity

1862
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:36.319
to bash the left. And and while he called out

1863
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:38.720
the stuff, he laid out the facts and he said

1864
01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:41.319
the left isn't he talked about the embrace of violence

1865
01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.520
and stuff, And unfortunately, I feel like people like him

1866
01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:46.640
have no future in this party. I hope I'm wrong

1867
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:49.760
about that. I want to be optimistic, but it's very

1868
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.920
hard to look at what will happen in twenty twenty

1869
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.720
eight and and see there's a silver lining somewhere. And

1870
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:57.279
I also don't think Democrats are going to have it

1871
01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.079
together either. I think it's like, no, they're not going

1872
01:27:59.119 --> 01:28:00.960
to have to go, and so I don't. I just

1873
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.720
don't have a lot of hope that we will. It's

1874
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.239
going to take leaders that actually stand up and say, like,

1875
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.479
this is the right thing to do, even if it

1876
01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:11.199
cost me power, even if it cost me popularity.

1877
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:13.840
Okay, but we're being hopeful because we you and I

1878
01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.159
both said that in different ways, and I think you

1879
01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.760
and I both agree there. But unfortunately we know no

1880
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:26.680
one's going to want to give up the power for example, right, Yeah,

1881
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:28.000
I'm with you.

1882
01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:30.720
And maybe someone will and maybe we will demand that

1883
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:32.319
at some point. Maybe I want to do something.

1884
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:37.279
Yeah, because I think on this issue, you're correct. I

1885
01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:40.039
think we both are in a grants, we just came

1886
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:42.640
at it from different angles, but I'm with you on it.

1887
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:44.840
I think you're correct. But what I want to do,

1888
01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:46.560
I want to circle back a bit because it's kind

1889
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:50.800
of come up here and there through our discussion. Okay,

1890
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.479
when we're talking about school shootings, we're talking about shootings

1891
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.720
in general. I got to go to the guns, and

1892
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:56.880
it kind of came up a little bit in the

1893
01:28:56.880 --> 01:29:00.000
beginning of our conversation, but we didn't really grab onto it.

1894
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.920
So I'm going to that's do it, because, like you said,

1895
01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:06.039
in California, California, no matter where you go, you can't

1896
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:08.600
just walk into a Walmart and just buy a gun. Correct.

1897
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.359
So the whole bullshit about everybody's saying we need common

1898
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:15.760
sense gun laws, it's it's my favorite term. Oh good,

1899
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:21.600
But do we not already have the process? Yeah, thoughts,

1900
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:22.239
I'm sure.

1901
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:26.079
Well, Okay, the simplest version of the gun control debate

1902
01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:27.880
that I have with almost everyone that brings this up

1903
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.960
to me is, first of all, we have a lot

1904
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.000
of common sense laws that we don't enforce right now. So,

1905
01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:35.600
for example, you lie on a background check, you're fellon.

1906
01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:37.159
You're not supposed to have a gun. You lie on

1907
01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:39.199
the background check, we have a literally a form with

1908
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:41.560
your signature on it that says you're allowed to buy

1909
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.239
a gun, and that you knew you weren't supposed to do.

1910
01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:47.279
You know how often we prosecute that, like zero point

1911
01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:49.800
two percent of the time. I'm going to mess up

1912
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:51.319
the numbers here. It was something like there was one

1913
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.640
year where there were I want to say there were

1914
01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:56.920
like one hundred. It might not have been one year,

1915
01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:58.119
might have been a series of years. There was like

1916
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:00.439
one hundred thousand forms that they knew that like felons

1917
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.760
had tried to like buy guns or whatever. They investigated

1918
01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:09.000
like twelve hundred of them and prosecuted like two of them.

1919
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:13.239
Hunter Biden got railroaded with his thing because they really

1920
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:15.640
they never prosecute people for lying on that gun for him,

1921
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:19.079
And so that's where I'm like, that's selective prosecution when

1922
01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.119
you say, oh, we're gonna apply this gun law that

1923
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.800
we don't apply to anyone else straw purchases or another

1924
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.000
one where if like if if I buy a gun,

1925
01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:29.119
because I know I'm allowed to buy a gun and

1926
01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:31.079
I felt the background check, but really I'm just buying it.

1927
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:32.560
And then you're gonna give me the money and you're

1928
01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:34.119
not allowed to have a gun, and I'm just passing

1929
01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:36.439
it along to you. That's a straw purchase. Do you

1930
01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:39.319
know how often we prosecute that? Almost never, because do

1931
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:40.560
you know who most of the people that do straw

1932
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:44.479
purchases are. It's like girlfriends and moms and relatives of

1933
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:48.039
gang bangers, like and so, we don't want to prosecute

1934
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:51.760
moms and girlfriends, right and so. And the only times

1935
01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:54.319
we've done is like the San Bernardino shooting, that was

1936
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:56.520
one where there was a straw purchase, and like these

1937
01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.920
were obviously like not even Americans weren't allowed to have guns.

1938
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:01.399
He kind of knew they were going to do it

1939
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:04.279
for a terrorist attack. That's the last prosecution I've heard

1940
01:31:04.319 --> 01:31:06.359
of of a straw purchase. And we'll also get one

1941
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:08.880
for the New York one. It was his boss's straw purchase.

1942
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.399
But they did go after the parent I forgot, which

1943
01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:15.920
yes they did. Yeah, And that is a situation where again,

1944
01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:18.560
you know what I'm talking about. But that's a novel law,

1945
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.800
that's actually a new that's a fairly new law.

1946
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:23.119
Red flag laws. We have red flag laws.

1947
01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:25.560
They don't. They've not prevented a single shooting that we

1948
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:27.520
know of. Now, I know that's a little hard to disprove,

1949
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.039
but like Minnesota has red flag laws, it didn't help

1950
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:32.560
in this case because it still requires someone to go

1951
01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:35.560
to law enforcement. Beyond that, the church shooting that happened

1952
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.680
in Texas was a.

1953
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:39.680
Navy a guy.

1954
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.279
That guy kicked out of the Navy for beating his

1955
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.359
wife and was supposed to not be on the registry

1956
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:47.279
and the Navy just somehow messed up the paperwork and

1957
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:50.399
never put him in the NIXT system. So yeah, he

1958
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:52.279
wouldn't have passed the background check if the Navy did

1959
01:31:52.279 --> 01:31:54.359
their job right. So again government ineptitude.

1960
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.159
But so so there's there's okay, but there's there's gun

1961
01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.199
laws in place. You can't just walk into purchase. You know,

1962
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.359
you just said that. You just said that, and you're right,

1963
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:09.159
but they don't investigate the the times where people circumvent willingly.

1964
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.600
But what also is not being spoken of, And I

1965
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:16.720
actually went over this with a XDE agent that I

1966
01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:20.800
had here and we talked. No one's talking about the

1967
01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.640
amount of black market guns that are sold but purchased

1968
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:30.039
legally kind of from actual gun shops by cartels doing

1969
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:34.199
what you said earlier, Mom's girlfriends, brothers, whoever, going purchasing

1970
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.720
these weapons going back to the cartels and then flood

1971
01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:40.920
in the streets in the black market. So even even

1972
01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:44.039
though we have these alls to control people from illegally

1973
01:32:44.039 --> 01:32:49.680
buying them from legal gun dealers, we're not stopping the

1974
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:53.880
cartels from circumvanced system by having the brother, cousin, aunt,

1975
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.920
uncle that does not have a record from being influenced

1976
01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:59.640
and forced to buy these weapons and pumping them back

1977
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:00.600
into the streets.

1978
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:02.680
Well, and most of them are stolen too. I mean

1979
01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:04.279
that's the other thing. It's like ninety percent of gun

1980
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:06.640
jews and crimes are stolen. So it's like, well, there's

1981
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:09.920
a problem there. I think the solution that is so

1982
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:12.319
obvious and I don't understand why it's not happening, is

1983
01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:19.319
like you just take violent crime very very seriously. If

1984
01:33:19.319 --> 01:33:21.399
someone gets arrested with a gun that's not supposed to

1985
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:24.600
have a gun. I am not normally for mandatory minimums,

1986
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:26.760
but I think that's one where I am. I'm like,

1987
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:28.960
if we've said you're not allowed to have a gun

1988
01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:31.039
and you have one, like specifically you're a felon that's

1989
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:32.960
not supposed to have a gun, right and you have one,

1990
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:37.560
You're going to jail period, Like no, and you can't

1991
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:39.960
plee it down, you can't do anything. It's like three years,

1992
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:42.760
five whatever it is. We pick the You will definitely

1993
01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:44.680
go to jail if you get caught, if you use

1994
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.920
it in a violent crime, if you're robbing a liquor store,

1995
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:49.039
if you threaten your wife with it, if you whatever.

1996
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:53.119
Like we don't take domestic abuse seriously, and most violence escalates.

1997
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.119
Most people don't just snap and murder someone. They threaten

1998
01:33:56.159 --> 01:33:58.960
someone and then they build it actually physically hurt someone,

1999
01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.840
and we just keep giving it a pass. And it

2000
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:04.520
doesn't help that on the political side, we give it

2001
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:06.439
a pass when it's on our side or the left

2002
01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:10.199
doesn't want to. Like the truth is black people like

2003
01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:13.119
talk about DC because Trump did the whole National Guard stuff.

2004
01:34:13.359 --> 01:34:15.399
We look at a crime in DC, it's all in

2005
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.880
two wards. They know that it's about five hundred people.

2006
01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:20.760
They know the names of that cause most of the

2007
01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:24.279
crimes in the city. People get arrested over and over

2008
01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:25.840
and over and again. You've got a DA that's not

2009
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:27.680
willing to prosecute because they're worried it looks like I

2010
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:30.399
don't care about black people. Well, gets who the victims are.

2011
01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:33.199
They're also black people. So ninety six percent of the

2012
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:38.640
victims of violent gun violence, specifically in DC, ninety six

2013
01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:41.479
percent of them are black. You are not protecting or

2014
01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:44.840
caring about black people if you don't arrest the people

2015
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:48.279
that are shooting black people. They happen to also be black.

2016
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.079
But like every black resident of DC that's not a

2017
01:34:52.119 --> 01:34:55.439
criminal would love for the people that are murdering their

2018
01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.760
children to be in jail. And that's the problem is

2019
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.039
we keep playing this game of life. Well, we've got

2020
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:03.000
to defund the police or the left is saying like, oh,

2021
01:35:03.079 --> 01:35:05.960
well you can't, we can't have desperate outcomes. Well, look,

2022
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.800
I don't know all the sociological reasons that that some

2023
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.600
young black men choose crime more than other races, but

2024
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:18.159
they're also like disproportionately the victims of those crimes, like

2025
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:21.560
the if you are fifteen to thirty years old and

2026
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:24.119
you're a black male in the United States or sorry,

2027
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.560
in DC specifically, you have the same chance of dying

2028
01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:32.479
that our soldiers did in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is

2029
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:35.960
the percentages that we're playing with. You're literally asking these

2030
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:38.239
people to grow up in war zones and you're and

2031
01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:41.319
the only the only we don't have some enemy that

2032
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:42.039
we're trying to fight.

2033
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.560
You could lock those people up the second you catch.

2034
01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:47.039
Them with a gun. We do not take violence. You

2035
01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:48.279
said we're a violent country.

2036
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:48.640
We are.

2037
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:50.520
We're gonna be more violent than every country we've even

2038
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:52.399
wore one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago. But

2039
01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:56.279
we don't take violent crime seriously until it escalates to murder,

2040
01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:00.239
and even then we excuse it sometimes. And so to me,

2041
01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:03.760
all you would have to do is like make criminals

2042
01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:06.319
understand that if they do something illegal and they have

2043
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:09.359
a gun illegally, they are definitely going to jail. Increase

2044
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:11.520
the chance of it happening. You don't have to increase

2045
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.479
the sentences. The sentences could even be lower. But if

2046
01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:17.279
you increase the chance, like they know if they get caught,

2047
01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.119
they're going to jail and they're not going to be

2048
01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:22.439
this revolving door, I think you will see a reduce,

2049
01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:25.479
a reduction in gun violence. And I also think you

2050
01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:26.960
have to do that with school shooters too. I think

2051
01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:29.680
you have to increase the chances that they're going to

2052
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:32.239
get shot before they get a chance to kill a

2053
01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.800
bunch of people. And going back to the manifesto of

2054
01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:38.319
the Minnesota shooter, he was calling the guy in Indianapolis

2055
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:40.960
basically a punk because and several other ones that went

2056
01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.479
into a place that got shot by a concealed carry holder,

2057
01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:47.159
and he's basically saying like they're losers. Well, I mean,

2058
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.000
that's a great way to influence people to not do it.

2059
01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:50.600
You might get shot by someone.

2060
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:58.800
So oversimplified obviously, but no, that's over sumplification because if

2061
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.880
first place, I would give it if people, if people

2062
01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:05.800
are not getting punished appropriately for the misdeeds, then of

2063
01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:07.399
course there's never gonna be a there's never gonna be

2064
01:37:07.399 --> 01:37:12.000
a correction of the action. Right now, as far as

2065
01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.520
gun violence goes, now we're talking about gun violence, it's

2066
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:18.520
it's disproportionate in terms of how it's being presented to

2067
01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.479
everybody because they just look at the problem being the gun.

2068
01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:24.560
Right But I could put the gun on my desk,

2069
01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:26.159
never look at it, and it's not going to do anything,

2070
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:28.920
it will never hurt you. I'm just saying, and I

2071
01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:31.000
know people think that's an asshole way of saying it,

2072
01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.319
but it's true. The the thing that you were talking

2073
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:38.119
about earlier that the people in DC. It's kind of

2074
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.159
the point that a cop doesn't want to do anything,

2075
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:42.520
or a DA or whatever because they don't want to

2076
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.159
be the d being racist. Correct.

2077
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:46.600
And by the way, it's not even the DA in

2078
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.439
d C. It's the US Attorney's Office, so d yeah,

2079
01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:53.079
the president has a direct line to tell that person

2080
01:37:53.119 --> 01:37:54.520
what to do and to not do it.

2081
01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:57.079
But even just using a DA's example in other cities

2082
01:37:57.079 --> 01:38:01.079
like talking about Chicago, Oakland, wherever, but you're right, yeah,

2083
01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:04.159
in DC, it's actually the president. It's like right there,

2084
01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:07.279
like they have they have control. Uh So. The the

2085
01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.600
problem though is with the with people like you're talking

2086
01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:11.520
about the black community, but it could be anything. It

2087
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:13.279
could be the Hispanic community, it could be the Chinese,

2088
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:15.039
it could be the mom community which has a huge

2089
01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:19.039
gang problem as well. You get born into this area

2090
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:21.319
and it's hard for to get out, Like they're influenced

2091
01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:23.960
by opportunity that they don't have. They see fast money,

2092
01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:26.239
which looks like fast money ayway, and then what you

2093
01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:30.239
were saying earlier about the media, it's like rap music, videos,

2094
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:35.319
everything else glorifying this behavior. You've got people like basketball

2095
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:39.000
players glorifying this showing them what you know, they're giant

2096
01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:41.439
chains and they're and whatever it is they have that

2097
01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:42.319
they're just glorifying.

2098
01:38:42.439 --> 01:38:44.520
Like John Moran is a great example of like why

2099
01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:47.319
you are not like, you're not inner city, you didn't

2100
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:50.159
grow up poor like right like, and yet you're like

2101
01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.600
you're like buying into that gun gangster culture when you're

2102
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:54.840
like you're a million I.

2103
01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:59.239
Mean, players ended up getting getting a residor charge for having,

2104
01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:01.399
you know, carry a gun or even murdering people in

2105
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:04.479
a club, and it's crazy that they're buying into. So

2106
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.279
it's something that we have changed. It's a cultural change

2107
01:39:07.279 --> 01:39:07.960
that has to happen.

2108
01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:10.439
And I think you've got to look at every single

2109
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:14.439
one of those kind of crimes differently, because suicides are

2110
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:17.119
two thirds of gun deaths, I know, and the same

2111
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:20.720
thing that works for solving gang violence isn't going to

2112
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:23.159
solve suicides, isn't going to solve mass shootings, isn't going

2113
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.239
to solve domestic violence. And you have to look at

2114
01:39:25.239 --> 01:39:28.000
all of them as individual Like we just look at

2115
01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:31.039
the big number and go, it's guns because that's the

2116
01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:32.039
only common denominator.

2117
01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:33.319
And what you said is quick because like a lot

2118
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.680
of people don't even realize that Gundest's a leading cause

2119
01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.520
is actually suicides. People don't even realize that.

2120
01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:40.680
Yeah, And that's what I don't like about a lot

2121
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:45.920
of the statistics on guns is that they're wildly misinforming people.

2122
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.319
It's not that they're lies, it's that they're Like, if

2123
01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:50.840
you don't mention that two thirds of gun deaths are suicides,

2124
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:53.239
you're not really wanting to tackle the problem. You just

2125
01:39:53.279 --> 01:39:55.920
don't like guns, because I just think you tackle those

2126
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.359
two totally different ways. I think something like a three

2127
01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:02.119
day waiting period my cause suicides to go down. Am

2128
01:40:02.159 --> 01:40:03.520
I not? I don't know. And I also don't think

2129
01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:05.840
that's an infringement on anyone's Second Amendment rights as long

2130
01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:08.159
as you had a carve out for if someone was

2131
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:10.800
truly scared of, like in a domestic violent situation or

2132
01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.800
something like that, you could have exceptions to that. I

2133
01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:15.600
would think of that sort of like a red flag thing.

2134
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:19.159
But it's like you've got different solutions for different problems right, right,

2135
01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:24.039
But most people aren't having honest conversations.

2136
01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:25.000
About a gang violence thing with guns. So in your opinion,

2137
01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:28.359
there's no right or wrong because none of us are qualified.

2138
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:30.399
I don't think maybe you are. I don't know. I'm

2139
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:33.159
not qualified, but I mean, I don't know if I

2140
01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:36.359
am either. We'll say, what is a solution of changing

2141
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:39.800
the culture, you know, to where that that is no

2142
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:43.760
longer glorified? Like obviously you know it's helping to create

2143
01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.000
a pathway to opportunities to where they don't feel they

2144
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.359
have turned to that yep, But how well I think

2145
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:50.840
we how do we break that cycle?

2146
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:52.960
I think the punishment part is an important part of

2147
01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:54.920
it because you have to and like I said at

2148
01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:57.840
there are varying degrees of that. If you catch a

2149
01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:00.840
fifteen year old with a gun, I'm not saying we

2150
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.960
throw them in jail, even necessarily, like, but like, there

2151
01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:08.039
needs to be an intervention of some sort there. And

2152
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.760
the other biggest problem is, I mean, some of the

2153
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.760
that Malcolm Gladwell article I mentioned was I think it

2154
01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:16.760
was in the New Yorker. It's from a long time ago,

2155
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.439
but it was talking about the contagion of school shootings.

2156
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.520
And what they found is like when they could discover

2157
01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.039
that someone was like being you know, like I said,

2158
01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:28.399
we see red flags all the time where we go,

2159
01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:31.319
Like I mean, I've known people around like I will

2160
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:33.960
not be surprised if I find out at some point,

2161
01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:36.000
like if I turn on the news and they've murdered someone,

2162
01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:38.359
like I just I think they give me the creeps

2163
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:41.199
or whatever it might be, or those situations they're drawing

2164
01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:43.920
stuff or whatever. Like that's the point to intervene and

2165
01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:45.600
not to like scare them, just to be like, hey,

2166
01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:51.279
like I'm seeing this behavior. I'm seeing it's you know,

2167
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:53.520
are you upset about something like what? Like that is

2168
01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:55.520
when you have to intervene. And unfortunately there's not a

2169
01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:57.199
sexy law that can do that.

2170
01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:57.760
Right.

2171
01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:00.960
That is like case by case that it does take

2172
01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:04.399
like people talking about it, it takes people taking the

2173
01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:07.439
escalation to violence seriously. A lot of the more disturbed

2174
01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:10.640
school shooters did stuff like shot animals before, or shot

2175
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:14.239
pellet guns at people, or did some sort of violent

2176
01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:16.319
activity before it rose to the level of like someone

2177
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:20.119
actually getting hurt. Some of the shooters have done things

2178
01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:23.239
like discharged a weapon or like brandished a weapon like

2179
01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:25.159
those are things where like, no, we got to take

2180
01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.279
that more seriously. Like I'm a gun owner. I carry

2181
01:42:27.279 --> 01:42:30.680
a gun, but like, I do not like gun owners

2182
01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:32.399
being irresponsible because.

2183
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:35.079
Where's the intervention though, Is it just law enforcement or

2184
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:36.960
out of the parents?

2185
01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:39.479
I think, well, I think parents are a much bigger

2186
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:41.439
part of conversation than we ever talked about. But again,

2187
01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:46.079
the left doesn't like to believe that you need two parents.

2188
01:42:46.119 --> 01:42:47.920
I even just read an article yesterday trying to sort

2189
01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:51.239
of debunk that like two parent households are better because

2190
01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:52.760
they were like, well, but if you look at the

2191
01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:54.920
first of all, they lied about some of the statistics.

2192
01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:57.279
They were claiming half of black children are in two

2193
01:42:57.319 --> 01:43:00.000
parent households, it's forty two percent. I'm not saying you're

2194
01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:02.760
c but I'm it's a little different. And they're like, well,

2195
01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:06.880
even when you compare for that, they have worse outcomes

2196
01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:09.319
than white kids in two parent households. And I go, Okay,

2197
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:12.520
that could be true, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't

2198
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:15.159
encourage two parent households. Like it's like, all the data

2199
01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:17.720
shows that kids are much better off in two parent households,

2200
01:43:18.119 --> 01:43:21.960
And that is not to say that if you are divorced,

2201
01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:25.760
you are a bad person, or you know, especially you're

2202
01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:28.560
an abusive relationship, or their abusing, Like there are all

2203
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:31.399
sorts of reasons, but it's just that you are giving

2204
01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:34.199
your kid a disadvantage. Like that's just part of it. Now,

2205
01:43:34.439 --> 01:43:37.960
kids are resilient, and there's all I know so many

2206
01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.399
people that had terrible childhoods and have turned out to

2207
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:44.039
be wonderful people. They're not murdering, they're not violent, they're

2208
01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:46.359
not any of those things. And but it's because other

2209
01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:49.439
people stepped up. The government can't do that. The government

2210
01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:51.920
cannot love your kid. The government cannot love them right.

2211
01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:56.680
The government cannot even really I don't think the government

2212
01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:00.159
can really protect you from bad parenting until it like rises.

2213
01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:00.960
To the level of abuse.

2214
01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:03.680
And so it's something that we can arrest a parent

2215
01:44:03.720 --> 01:44:07.359
for or take kids away from the parents. It's drug addiction,

2216
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:09.199
it's abuse, it's like all these kind of things. Like

2217
01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:12.199
the state I think should step in in those situations.

2218
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:15.439
And but you cannot make people be good parents with

2219
01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:19.279
some government program. Now you can try to encourage. I

2220
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:22.520
think we should encourage I mean, for lots of reasons

2221
01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:23.960
that we could get into. I think we need a

2222
01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:26.720
higher birth rate because we're just not replacing ourselves. Even

2223
01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:28.479
I mean there's all sorts of economic and all sorts

2224
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:29.119
of reasons for.

2225
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:31.319
That too, But that's true. That's a true statement, Like.

2226
01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:34.960
We need more kids that have two parents that love

2227
01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:39.359
them and they know support them. And I just see

2228
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:43.920
the like it's not anecdotal evidence like in the evidence

2229
01:44:43.960 --> 01:44:47.359
shows like two parent households, those kids fare better in

2230
01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:50.640
every way, in academics, in career, in money made over

2231
01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:54.159
their lifetime, in all sorts of ways. They do better

2232
01:44:54.239 --> 01:44:57.479
across races. Now, like I said, there's still disparity there,

2233
01:44:57.479 --> 01:44:59.000
but like then you go to the next level and

2234
01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:01.640
you say, Okay, well, like that's one level, what's the

2235
01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:04.399
next level? Well maybe there is. I mean, honestly, I

2236
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:06.279
think the biggest problem with a lot of it is

2237
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.079
I think there's a lot of like soft racism of

2238
01:45:09.159 --> 01:45:12.760
like these sort of low expectations of black kids. It's

2239
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:16.680
like that's a thing. You're right, California's graduating kids that

2240
01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:18.680
can't read. That's not that kid's fault.

2241
01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:20.159
That's not helping the kid either.

2242
01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:22.960
The state failed him by saying, well, we've got to

2243
01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:24.880
pass him along, we got to keep him moving along

2244
01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:26.960
or else we look bad. And like if he doesn't

2245
01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:28.840
do if we don't cheat these test scores to get

2246
01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:31.720
him graduated, we get less funding or whatever. And like

2247
01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:35.800
the motivations are all so perverse. And but like the

2248
01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:39.119
state failed that kid. If you graduate from high school

2249
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:43.800
in California, who has more a higher GDP than basically

2250
01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:46.399
all but like four countries in the world. I think,

2251
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:48.920
like if it was his own country, right in that.

2252
01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:51.560
State in the world or something like that, the school.

2253
01:45:51.880 --> 01:45:54.079
Is graduating people that can't read, and they're getting to

2254
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:56.640
college and college professors. They're even getting to college. That's

2255
01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:58.119
what's crazy. They're like going to college and then like

2256
01:45:58.199 --> 01:45:59.560
someone realizes they can't read.

2257
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:03.000
I've seen it. I can't. I'm all saying too much,

2258
01:46:03.039 --> 01:46:05.039
but I'll just say I've seen it. I know.

2259
01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:08.479
And so what bothers me about the race stuff specifically

2260
01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:11.800
so much is that the Democratic Party I think has

2261
01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:14.359
just taken advantage of having the black vote and just

2262
01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:16.000
and just been like, well, we just have that in

2263
01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:18.079
the bag, and like, but what have they done for

2264
01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.279
black people? Like they said black lives matter, and they

2265
01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:22.920
put black things on their Instagram profiles, and.

2266
01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:24.119
They say a lot of stuff.

2267
01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:26.399
But I don't see a lot of actions making black

2268
01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.079
people's lives better by the Democratic Party. I really don't.

2269
01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:33.399
I mean, and I don't think Republicans have I think

2270
01:46:33.399 --> 01:46:35.880
Republicans are too stupid or you know, Donald Trump is

2271
01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:37.479
a good example of someone who just thought he had

2272
01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:39.399
to be racist to be a Republican. That's just what

2273
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:43.239
he assumed, which is also crazy. I don't think most

2274
01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:45.039
Republicans are racist. I think there are more now than

2275
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:48.000
there were eight years ago. I think it's more towards

2276
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:49.920
Jews than black people. But I think it's there's there's

2277
01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:54.520
all this animosity, and I just think that, you know,

2278
01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:57.479
Donald Trump sort of too. I mean, he increased his

2279
01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.840
vote in every demographic other than white college educated women women.

2280
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.640
That's the only that's the only demographic that he lost

2281
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.960
vote on from twenty that's true twenty to twenty twenty four.

2282
01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:10.680
And so I mean he did expand that a little bit.

2283
01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:12.840
I don't think it's as I think Republicans are kind

2284
01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:16.720
of like celebrating a little early that they like have

2285
01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:18.399
that in the bag for forever. I mean, I think

2286
01:47:18.439 --> 01:47:22.039
Democrats had some reason to believe that sort of demographic

2287
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:24.439
was destiny in some of the way, but I think

2288
01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:26.439
they were they ended up being wrong, but they didn't.

2289
01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:29.159
I don't think they were crazy to think. But like it,

2290
01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:31.159
these people in the bag forever.

2291
01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:34.399
Because at some point you could only lead them around

2292
01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:35.840
like you only you can only lead them by a

2293
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:37.800
carrot for so long until you actually let them have

2294
01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:40.720
the damn care. You got to do something for them, yeah,

2295
01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:40.960
you know.

2296
01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:42.880
And the other thing I don't like is that I

2297
01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:46.119
think democrats a they talk down to black people all

2298
01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:48.640
the time. I'm just I'm specifically picking that minority group

2299
01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:52.720
just because they are so disproportionately affected by crime and

2300
01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:56.279
by poverty and by violence, and and like they it

2301
01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.600
just this, it's a fact, they just are. But I

2302
01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.720
think of them as the victims of that stuff when

2303
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:05.960
you you know, because there are more black victims than

2304
01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:09.680
there are perpetrators of those crimes. Like if some gangbanger

2305
01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:14.039
shoots another kid, like even if that person goes to jail,

2306
01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:18.479
that kind of affects them. But like the victim, it's

2307
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.079
like their family and their neighborhood and maybe the store

2308
01:48:21.119 --> 01:48:22.960
closes because it's too dangerous to be in, and now

2309
01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:24.920
these people have to travel further and their stuff gets

2310
01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:26.920
more expensive because people are breaking into it. There's all

2311
01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:30.560
these factors that happen that I don't see that the

2312
01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:33.079
Democratic card has like offered a lot of real good

2313
01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.520
solutions for even down to like with abortion stuff, planned

2314
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:40.079
parenthood puts people puts planned parenthood places in poor black

2315
01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:42.840
neighborhoods more than they put them in other places. And

2316
01:48:43.359 --> 01:48:47.479
you just go, why, Like that's what is Are you

2317
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:50.479
helping black people or are you helping exterminate black people?

2318
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:51.960
Because I mean that's how I look at it. I'm like,

2319
01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.479
there's been more black babies aborted than born, and so

2320
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:58.079
I go, your population would increase if that didn't happen.

2321
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.560
I think most of them are fooled in believing they

2322
01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:03.359
don't have another choice other than that because.

2323
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:04.439
They might not, you know.

2324
01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:07.079
And I just think that, like all of those things combined,

2325
01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:10.039
show me a Democratic party that has taken advantage of

2326
01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:12.359
having black people, including trying to tell black people what

2327
01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:14.880
they even when they disagree with them, they tell them

2328
01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:18.119
they're wrong. So voter ID is a great example. Democrats

2329
01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:22.079
say it's racist, right, It's like eighty percent of black

2330
01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:24.800
people say, yeah, we're for voter ID. We think it's

2331
01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:28.199
a good idea. Why would you check again, you're expecting

2332
01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:30.760
black people to not be what smart enough to go

2333
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:31.960
get an ID Like.

2334
01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.760
That's racist, that's like, that's prejudice. Yeah, look, a lot

2335
01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:38.439
of what you said goes back to what we were

2336
01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:42.600
kind of saying earlier about how do we change the culture. Right,

2337
01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:45.000
let's say on the black community. We're just talking by

2338
01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:46.760
the way, everybody were just talking about because it came

2339
01:49:46.840 --> 01:49:47.760
up with the gun violence.

2340
01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:49.319
I just can't Yeah, and like I said, they are

2341
01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:51.760
victims of zero on everybody.

2342
01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:56.279
Listen, what you said is correct about the Democrat Party

2343
01:49:56.319 --> 01:50:01.479
when it came to the black demographic. They say that

2344
01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:04.439
they're for them, they're for the black demographic, but they

2345
01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:06.760
haven't offered solutions. Like if they're offering solutions, they would

2346
01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:08.600
have created opportunity from so they wouldn't have to be

2347
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:12.159
reliant in this on this vicious circle of violence and

2348
01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:14.119
where they think that that's the only option for them

2349
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.159
to get ahead and earn whatever money they think they

2350
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:20.359
can get through violence, right and crime. That's the big

2351
01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:22.119
thing I see is they're not creating a real opportunity

2352
01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:24.560
and they also have gotten away to what we were

2353
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:29.159
discussing earlier. The family unit, letting parents have control and

2354
01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.159
feeling like they have a support to be able to

2355
01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:35.399
nurture their children. Yeah, to raise them correctly. That's not

2356
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:40.399
there the two things that Democrat Party failed to do

2357
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:42.279
with the black community.

2358
01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:45.119
And look at what happened when Barack Obama, as president

2359
01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:47.439
in the United States, as the first black president of

2360
01:50:47.439 --> 01:50:51.720
the United States, calls out black fatherlessness as being a problem,

2361
01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:53.920
like there should be no one more appropriate for that.

2362
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:56.840
And what does Jesse Jackson do. He goes on TV

2363
01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:58.880
and on a hot mic says he wants to cut

2364
01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:01.239
his balls off. He can't believe he's said that. You

2365
01:51:01.279 --> 01:51:04.960
don't really care. Again, like like it just shows that

2366
01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:08.600
it's a grift, Like even even Jesse Jackson's it's a

2367
01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:12.840
race hustle. And because otherwise you would go, like to me,

2368
01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:15.720
I had this hope that like it would be great

2369
01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:19.880
to have like a black leader. And and like there

2370
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:21.399
have been other ones that have done this kind of

2371
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:24.640
thing and they normally get, you know, kind of crucified

2372
01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:26.119
for it. So why would they go out on a

2373
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:29.239
limb and say that when it's and and again it's

2374
01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:32.399
interesting to in that situation, was Jesse Jackson who's also black.

2375
01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:34.479
So I'll always give them that. Most of the time,

2376
01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:37.319
it's white people telling black people how to think, and

2377
01:51:37.319 --> 01:51:39.000
that if they don't think the same way they do,

2378
01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:42.920
their the problem. Whether that's photo I D laws or

2379
01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:46.159
pick pick anything, pick a police. Defund the police is

2380
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:47.880
another one. It's like they got all on this, like

2381
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.720
Black Lives Matter, defund the police, and most black people

2382
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:53.000
in those communities were not saying defund the police. They

2383
01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:55.840
were going, uh, we would like more police, Like we

2384
01:51:55.960 --> 01:51:57.800
live in this every day. You get a you get

2385
01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:01.239
a like from your ivory tower. Uh, tell us how

2386
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.119
to live, Like, we're the ones, like whose kids are

2387
01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.199
getting murdered, We're the we're the ones who deal with

2388
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:08.000
this crime. We're the deal with like like and so,

2389
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:10.439
and you're telling us the solutions. We should just get

2390
01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.960
rid of all police. Like you're not even asking us

2391
01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.840
what we want from this, and like that's what infuriates me,

2392
01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:17.159
and I know it's.

2393
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:21.960
It's let's let's circle this back. So basically, after everything's

2394
01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:25.960
said and done, we we don't really have a gun problem.

2395
01:52:26.640 --> 01:52:28.680
We have a cultural problem. We have we have we

2396
01:52:28.760 --> 01:52:32.880
have a problem in culture and community that needs to

2397
01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:33.520
be addressed.

2398
01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:36.359
Yeah, really, yeah, I mean I think we do have

2399
01:52:36.399 --> 01:52:39.960
a violence problem that gets escalated because guns are such

2400
01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:41.640
an easy way to commit violence.

2401
01:52:41.760 --> 01:52:44.600
Okay, does that make sense? Like, no, it does, but

2402
01:52:44.640 --> 01:52:51.159
it contributes to here. Here's here's my here's my slight pushback. So,

2403
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:53.880
all things equal and considered, UK, you're not supposed to

2404
01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:55.560
have a gun. If you look at the murder rates,

2405
01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:57.920
if you take suicides away, et cetera, and you look

2406
01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:00.760
at the actual murder rates of the country per capita,

2407
01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:02.680
we're not that far apart.

2408
01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:06.039
No, But when you when you pull in all violent crime,

2409
01:53:06.279 --> 01:53:08.399
it's it is and it always has been for the

2410
01:53:08.439 --> 01:53:10.680
history of our entire nation. Like we are a more

2411
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:12.760
rebellious and more I understand.

2412
01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:14.800
But when if you look at the murder rates and

2413
01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:16.079
I don't know what they are now, this is when

2414
01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:18.199
I this was, I mean, I don't forgot when I

2415
01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:20.479
did this, But when you look at it, they were

2416
01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.119
not that far apart. If you're looking at population per

2417
01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:25.720
capita U case, there was there was a huge amount

2418
01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:30.279
of stabbing deaths, and then where there wasn't stabbings in

2419
01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:33.000
other countries, it was by any other means. And my

2420
01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:36.520
point being, Blake is crazy We'll find a way to

2421
01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.840
be crazy. Period. They're gonna if if they're if they're

2422
01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:45.000
intent on killing and their intent on causing havoc and

2423
01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.319
and you know, committing crimes, they will do it. They

2424
01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:48.399
will find a way to do it.

2425
01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:51.840
Right, look at people driving like vehicles in crowds of

2426
01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:52.520
people and stuff.

2427
01:53:52.520 --> 01:53:55.720
Now, the guns make a statement because they're pretty finite.

2428
01:53:55.800 --> 01:54:01.560
I mean, it's well, and there's a there.

2429
01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:03.960
Is the I mean again, another thing with it, going

2430
01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:06.600
back to the contagion thing, is it's a media problem

2431
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:09.880
in the sense that like when it's an arr it

2432
01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:13.399
seems so much scarier, like and and most of people

2433
01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:15.640
I know that are ignorant on guns, and not because

2434
01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:17.640
they're stupid, just because like they don't own them. They

2435
01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:20.039
don't want to, And that's fine, Like I don't. It's

2436
01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:22.319
totally right to do whatever you want to. When I

2437
01:54:22.479 --> 01:54:25.279
actually explain what the differences are between like an ar

2438
01:54:25.399 --> 01:54:28.199
and the rifle, well not really them, maybe not the

2439
01:54:28.279 --> 01:54:31.239
right host bolt action, but so but my point is like,

2440
01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:33.119
and then you look at the actual stats, like do

2441
01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:35.680
you know how many people are murdered by all rifles

2442
01:54:35.920 --> 01:54:39.439
in the country. It's uh, it's less than it's less

2443
01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:42.000
than two percent of all the murders in mostly in

2444
01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:45.399
the countries as opposed to handguns and shotguns. And honestly,

2445
01:54:45.399 --> 01:54:49.159
more people are murdered by fists than they are by

2446
01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:52.520
rifles in the United States every year. So but like

2447
01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:54.720
most people, you know, most people don't because it's just

2448
01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:57.119
not like that's not sexy. No one, like, no one

2449
01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:01.000
is scared, Like the local news is always going to run.

2450
01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:03.880
Someone got shot over, someone got beat up, even if

2451
01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:06.319
they got murdered with those hands. If someone choked someone

2452
01:55:06.319 --> 01:55:08.760
to death, which happened like by all, also happens more

2453
01:55:08.800 --> 01:55:12.560
often then than murders by long guns.

2454
01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:14.279
I don't know how much more scary is that though,

2455
01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:16.319
when you think about the commitment of actually killing someone

2456
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:17.600
with your bare hands, I mean.

2457
01:55:17.560 --> 01:55:20.439
Right, And that's the other problem is yeah, so that's

2458
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:23.359
where like guns do. Like the one thing I will

2459
01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:26.520
give the caveat is that guns do make it a

2460
01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:30.720
lot easier to have a well, I'm a huge Batman fan,

2461
01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:32.520
and she probably gets by the Batman stuff behind me

2462
01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:34.920
the Dark Knight quote of like you know him liking

2463
01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:37.800
to stab people because it's like so personal, right, and

2464
01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:41.119
like there's something like creepy to that, because it's true,

2465
01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:43.000
like it would take Like I don't know if I

2466
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.199
could shoot someone if my life life was in danger.

2467
01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:46.880
I think it would still be a lot harder to

2468
01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:49.520
stab someone. For me, I think it would be that

2469
01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:53.279
feels a lot more real than firing a gun at someone.

2470
01:55:53.560 --> 01:55:56.920
It's more connected to it. Right, it's you physically, you know,

2471
01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.800
having to plunge that instrument versus you're from Afar and

2472
01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:01.640
plowing a trigger and then you got to yep, projectile

2473
01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:02.319
doing it for you.

2474
01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:05.399
Yeah, and so like to that degree, I would say, yeah,

2475
01:56:05.399 --> 01:56:06.880
it makes stuff a little bit easier. But at the

2476
01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:08.720
same time, and there's four hundred million of them in

2477
01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:13.319
the United States too, the crazy right, but the the

2478
01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:18.279
like again that doesn't We have got lots of things

2479
01:56:18.279 --> 01:56:21.760
that can kill us, you know, and most of them

2480
01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:25.680
do more than those guns do. And really, and the

2481
01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:27.640
other problem is, like I said, we're looking at we

2482
01:56:27.960 --> 01:56:31.159
like most people have an outsized idea of how often

2483
01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:32.960
school shootings happening. Like I don't think we should do

2484
01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.399
school shooter drills in schools because kids are more likely

2485
01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:38.560
literally statistically more likely to die walking to school than

2486
01:56:38.600 --> 01:56:40.880
they are to ever be in a school shooting, not

2487
01:56:41.039 --> 01:56:43.079
die in a school shooting, like be at a school

2488
01:56:43.079 --> 01:56:45.760
where a school shooting happens, like it's just like it

2489
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:47.840
doesn't really happen. And even the number you rattled off

2490
01:56:47.880 --> 01:56:52.800
earlier that includes like the school resource officer accidentally discharging

2491
01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:55.079
his weapon on the school girls, they count that as

2492
01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:58.279
school shooting, it's really only like a hundred something. I

2493
01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:00.560
don't have the exact number. I'm going to try to

2494
01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:02.399
pull it out, but it's only like one hundred and

2495
01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:05.279
something since nineteen eighty when you actually look at mass

2496
01:57:05.279 --> 01:57:06.000
casually events.

2497
01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:08.680
The thing with the school shootings too, is like they

2498
01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:11.159
already look okay, schools are really looked like prisons right now.

2499
01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:14.800
They really do. They're all fenced off, they're guarded. High

2500
01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:17.720
schools have police officers.

2501
01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:19.439
I mean, my daughter has to go through a metal

2502
01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:21.640
detector in middle school at a small school. It's not

2503
01:57:21.720 --> 01:57:24.359
it's crazy and still to think and still to think

2504
01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:27.640
what we were talking about earlier, that pretty much the majority,

2505
01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:30.000
if not ninety, so I don't know the exact percentage,

2506
01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:35.000
but it is committed by other students. So who you're

2507
01:57:35.039 --> 01:57:37.279
telling what the plan is if a school shooter comes

2508
01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:40.640
into the building crazy. I also go you're telegraphing what

2509
01:57:40.720 --> 01:57:43.000
to like there should that just it's a bad plan,

2510
01:57:43.119 --> 01:57:45.600
you know what I mean. And I also think.

2511
01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:48.119
It's traumatizing kids because they you know, after they do

2512
01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:50.439
a drill, they're going home thinking, hey, mom, am I

2513
01:57:50.439 --> 01:57:52.880
going to die? Like what's really talking about?

2514
01:57:52.920 --> 01:57:54.600
And so I think of it like seat belts. I

2515
01:57:54.680 --> 01:57:56.119
tell my kids to put their seat belts in the car,

2516
01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:58.840
not because I think we're I don't tell them, hey,

2517
01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:01.199
we might get in a fiery car crash and you'll

2518
01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:03.279
die if you don't have a seatbelt on. I don't

2519
01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:06.039
say that every time I get in the car. It's like,

2520
01:58:06.279 --> 01:58:09.479
if we get in a wreck, it's the safest possible

2521
01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:11.279
situation is for you to be in a seatbelt or

2522
01:58:11.319 --> 01:58:13.359
car seat or whatever the situation is. I don't want

2523
01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:15.279
you to be scared of getting in a car every

2524
01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:17.079
time you get in a car. And the way we

2525
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:19.560
talk about school shootings, you've got people that literally have

2526
01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:22.439
this anxiety that it's going to happen to them and

2527
01:58:22.720 --> 01:58:25.199
it's just not statistically very likely to And I'm not

2528
01:58:25.239 --> 01:58:27.560
saying I'm not doing that to downplay the tragedy of

2529
01:58:27.600 --> 01:58:30.000
it happening. But it does have an outsized level of fear,

2530
01:58:30.039 --> 01:58:35.600
which also includes that notoriety influences more people to do it.

2531
01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:39.199
That's a reason it normalizes it and normalizes the idea

2532
01:58:39.279 --> 01:58:40.000
of it. Right.

2533
01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:41.920
It basically says, this happens all the time, there's nothing

2534
01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.479
you can do about it. And I think that that

2535
01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:46.720
is such a bad mentality, and I think the right

2536
01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:50.119
has done a little bit too much of I think

2537
01:58:50.159 --> 01:58:53.039
there are really obvious solutions to even solving school shooting stuff.

2538
01:58:53.079 --> 01:58:55.800
I think it's like the best one. I've read a

2539
01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:58.640
blog called hand Wavering free Gatory, which you can imagine

2540
01:58:58.720 --> 01:58:59.880
and is right up my alley as far as all

2541
01:58:59.920 --> 01:59:01.680
you talks about. It's like the things people freak out

2542
01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.159
about but are really not worth freaking out about. And

2543
01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:08.640
specifically he talks about how look, why would you not?

2544
01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:10.640
Like I did the math on this, It would cost

2545
01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:13.800
something like less than a billion dollars I think, or

2546
01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:15.840
something a year. It's not very much money when you're

2547
01:59:15.880 --> 01:59:18.279
looking at the federal budget. You just put like an

2548
01:59:18.319 --> 01:59:22.560
ex marine at every high school in America, like in

2549
01:59:22.640 --> 01:59:25.439
the full things with the ar like at the door,

2550
01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:29.439
like do you think anyone's gonna go to that? School, No, no,

2551
01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:32.359
because they know they're gonna get sniped immediately by the

2552
01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:35.920
guy that's better trained than them. And it's like, doesn't

2553
01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:38.439
cost that much money. And then but the real every

2554
01:59:38.439 --> 01:59:40.319
time I bring that up to someone that's like more

2555
01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:43.640
just totally anti gun, they're like, we shouldn't have to,

2556
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:46.039
and then they get into a moral thing. I'm like, okay,

2557
01:59:46.199 --> 01:59:48.840
like great, be on your soapbox and talk about that.

2558
01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:51.520
I think another pretty good solution would be if I

2559
01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:54.000
had control, if I was a school district, I would

2560
01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:56.760
have a news conference and I would have press releases

2561
01:59:56.800 --> 01:59:58.880
and all this stuff about we're training teachers, they're going

2562
01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:01.880
to carry guns. You're not going to know who they are.

2563
02:00:01.960 --> 02:00:03.680
But like, we're gonna have a sign outside that doesn't

2564
02:00:03.680 --> 02:00:05.119
say it's a gun free zone. We're gonna say we

2565
02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:06.760
have armed teachers here. You're not allowed to bring a

2566
02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:09.640
gun in, but there are armed teachers here. I don't

2567
02:00:09.640 --> 02:00:11.760
think you'd even have to train one teacher. I think

2568
02:00:11.760 --> 02:00:14.239
if you've literally had the press conference and pretended to

2569
02:00:14.319 --> 02:00:16.520
do it, your school would no longer be on the

2570
02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:19.000
list of places people would go shoot up like there

2571
02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:21.199
are and like it sounds like a really silly solution,

2572
02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:23.760
but like I think it's a real solution. You just

2573
02:00:23.800 --> 02:00:26.960
like look at the manifestos and again, why why could

2574
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.920
we not hire National Guard or ex military people people

2575
02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.760
will be trust to just like go do it. And

2576
02:00:32.800 --> 02:00:35.119
I think that you could. I think you would see

2577
02:00:35.279 --> 02:00:37.800
a draft. I think if like perfect. First of all,

2578
02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:39.680
it's a perfect thing for Donald Trump to do. It's

2579
02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:41.920
right up as AALI loves using the military for things

2580
02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:44.319
that we kind of have qualms about. Like I said,

2581
02:00:44.359 --> 02:00:47.079
make it ex people like make it former Marines. They're

2582
02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:49.399
not like they're really just the resource officer. They're just

2583
02:00:49.439 --> 02:00:51.399
not the fat guy that can't be a real cop.

2584
02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:54.000
They're like, and pay them, well, pay them eighty I

2585
02:00:54.199 --> 02:00:55.600
think I did the math on if you paid them

2586
02:00:55.600 --> 02:00:58.000
eighty thousand dollars a year, which is pretty pretty good

2587
02:00:58.000 --> 02:01:00.520
amount of money for sitting at a school right basically

2588
02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:02.479
being a security officer. Make it a hundred thousand.

2589
02:01:02.520 --> 02:01:04.640
Do you think we're having like full fatigues and everything too.

2590
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:08.800
Yep, I'm saying, like the full on the whole, the uniform,

2591
02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:12.359
the ar, all the best stuff chapstick over here, like

2592
02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:14.600
all of it, like make it look like I went

2593
02:01:14.640 --> 02:01:17.560
to my sister in law. I just graduated from the

2594
02:01:17.640 --> 02:01:21.039
Naval Academy and we went to a graduation where Jade

2595
02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:25.159
Vance was speaking. Can you imagine what the security was

2596
02:01:25.199 --> 02:01:26.479
like to get in the First of all, it was

2597
02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:29.039
wildly disorganized because they probably fired everyone. They did it

2598
02:01:29.079 --> 02:01:31.359
the year before, so it took us three hours to

2599
02:01:31.359 --> 02:01:33.760
get in the stadium and anyway, but like you knew

2600
02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:37.199
like they were and this is a place they guard

2601
02:01:37.199 --> 02:01:39.039
all the time because it's you know, it's the stadium

2602
02:01:39.119 --> 02:01:41.199
that the president or vice president speaks that every year

2603
02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:43.199
at this graduation. They should know how to do this.

2604
02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.399
But yeah, everyone there is like in full on, Like

2605
02:01:46.479 --> 02:01:49.039
no one's messing around. You don't have any like fat

2606
02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:53.319
cops there like with their right their little revolver, and

2607
02:01:53.399 --> 02:01:56.399
like everyone was like full gear. And I'm just saying

2608
02:01:56.399 --> 02:01:59.319
there's a seriousness that people take. And like what I like,

2609
02:01:59.319 --> 02:02:01.560
I said I don't like is the pushback from people

2610
02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:04.039
that are really anti gun is that they're just like,

2611
02:02:04.199 --> 02:02:06.079
we shouldn't have to do that, we shouldn't have to

2612
02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:08.920
fortify our schools. I'm like, I agree, I wish we

2613
02:02:08.920 --> 02:02:11.680
were in a world where we didn't have to do this.

2614
02:02:12.119 --> 02:02:13.920
But wouldn't you rather do the thing that prevents it

2615
02:02:13.920 --> 02:02:18.560
from happening, than have the moral high ground of kids

2616
02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:20.239
not having to see a gun on campus. First of all,

2617
02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:23.359
I don't think like everyone already has the like resource officers,

2618
02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:24.880
they're just poorly trained, they're not.

2619
02:02:25.039 --> 02:02:27.199
But we we still have to we still have to

2620
02:02:27.239 --> 02:02:30.520
address the issue of the majority of school shooters being

2621
02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:33.079
you know, carried out by other students.

2622
02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:35.000
Yeah, okay, at Max, there have been one hundred and

2623
02:02:35.079 --> 02:02:37.399
ninety one active school shooter incidents at K twelve since

2624
02:02:37.479 --> 02:02:42.600
nineteen eighty. That's like active shooter, you know, like it's indiscriminate.

2625
02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:47.680
It's just about actually deliberate mass shootings versus.

2626
02:02:46.479 --> 02:02:49.039
In those there. And keep in mind I wrote this

2627
02:02:49.039 --> 02:02:50.800
this is probably a year old, so there might be

2628
02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:53.640
a couple more than that that. Of those since nineteen eighty,

2629
02:02:53.640 --> 02:02:55.840
one hundred and forty eight student fatalities and four hundred

2630
02:02:55.840 --> 02:02:58.720
and fifty wounded. That is not when people call it

2631
02:02:58.760 --> 02:03:02.520
an epidemic. Like I said, more kids have died walking

2632
02:03:02.520 --> 02:03:04.199
to school and that amount of time, more kids have

2633
02:03:04.239 --> 02:03:05.840
died in the car rides on the way to school.

2634
02:03:05.920 --> 02:03:08.840
More kids have died like there are also more kids

2635
02:03:08.920 --> 02:03:12.359
of death probably died drowning I imagine, I mean like

2636
02:03:12.439 --> 02:03:14.439
way more, you know, and like swimming pools are the

2637
02:03:14.479 --> 02:03:18.239
most dangerous thing that we have around everywhere, and like

2638
02:03:18.279 --> 02:03:21.319
more people die of accidental drowning than almost anything. It's

2639
02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:24.039
like small kids and older adults generally. But and again

2640
02:03:24.239 --> 02:03:26.199
we go, how could we make that better? Well, most

2641
02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:27.760
state laws now have a thing. It's like building, you

2642
02:03:27.840 --> 02:03:29.239
got to put a fence around it where a kid

2643
02:03:29.239 --> 02:03:31.359
can't get into it. Like there's some really just smart

2644
02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:33.039
things that you can go. That's an easy thing to

2645
02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:34.880
prevent a kid from falling in a pool. And I

2646
02:03:34.920 --> 02:03:36.680
look at school shootings the same way where I go,

2647
02:03:36.840 --> 02:03:38.319
And that's why I say the media is to blame

2648
02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:44.119
no one. Everyone would overestimate that number. If I pulled

2649
02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:47.000
one hundred people on the street, everyone would think there'd

2650
02:03:47.039 --> 02:03:48.960
been more than one hundred and ninety one shootings. And

2651
02:03:49.039 --> 02:03:50.880
everyone would think that more than one hundred and forty

2652
02:03:50.880 --> 02:03:52.439
eight kids have died and more than four and fifty

2653
02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:54.800
and been wounded. And I'm not saying all of those

2654
02:03:54.800 --> 02:03:57.760
aren't tragedies. None of those should have ever happened. But

2655
02:03:59.079 --> 02:04:03.039
there are like forty other problems that are more important.

2656
02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:04.640
But I think this is just such an like I said,

2657
02:04:04.640 --> 02:04:07.560
put armed guards outside, you're done, and make them be

2658
02:04:07.560 --> 02:04:10.840
people that are already really well trained militarily. And E said,

2659
02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:12.640
I think it's something that's right up Donald Trump's alley.

2660
02:04:13.000 --> 02:04:15.760
I think it would be actually a great thing to try,

2661
02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:17.960
like just get the states to go in. Like here's

2662
02:04:17.960 --> 02:04:20.239
what I think would happened. The realistic version of this

2663
02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:24.479
is Donald Trump gets all the Red state Republicans to

2664
02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:25.439
have the National Guard.

2665
02:04:25.560 --> 02:04:25.880
Do that.

2666
02:04:26.960 --> 02:04:28.840
You just post one guy out of every high school.

2667
02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:31.520
What I think you would see is a real time

2668
02:04:31.600 --> 02:04:34.560
experiment where shootings would go down in those Red states

2669
02:04:34.840 --> 02:04:37.239
and they'd go and they'd stay the same or whatever

2670
02:04:37.239 --> 02:04:39.680
in the Blue states. More than likely, you know, and

2671
02:04:39.720 --> 02:04:42.680
I would be I would bet money that that's the

2672
02:04:42.760 --> 02:04:44.840
result of it, is that you do not see a

2673
02:04:44.840 --> 02:04:47.279
school shooting at a place that has an armed like

2674
02:04:47.479 --> 02:04:52.800
military guy outside. So I don't know if that's too inelegant.

2675
02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:55.680
But no, no, no, no, we covered a lot of ground here.

2676
02:04:57.159 --> 02:04:58.680
I don't know if we have time. It's up to

2677
02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:02.399
you going to see if we can go overseas for

2678
02:05:02.439 --> 02:05:05.640
a bit and get your opinion. I'm okay, so let's go.

2679
02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:09.239
Let's go overseas now because domestically we're a mess. We've

2680
02:05:09.239 --> 02:05:11.720
got ideas, but hopefully, you know, hopefully some of these

2681
02:05:11.760 --> 02:05:15.279
get implemented. That'd be great. So let's talk about what's

2682
02:05:15.359 --> 02:05:19.000
going on with a lot of the European countries that

2683
02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:21.840
are recognizing the state of Palestine. I don't know how

2684
02:05:21.840 --> 02:05:24.079
you feel about that situation in general. Oh, I've got

2685
02:05:24.079 --> 02:05:27.720
lots of opinion. Yeah, okay, but it is very interesting. Yeah,

2686
02:05:27.800 --> 02:05:32.199
how everyone is completely anti Israel, anti semi as well

2687
02:05:32.279 --> 02:05:34.319
or anti Semitic. We've seen an increase of that in

2688
02:05:34.359 --> 02:05:38.119
the United States, and and I'm not I'll just hear

2689
02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:41.319
you out. We'll see where this goes. But what are

2690
02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:42.319
your thoughts there.

2691
02:05:43.159 --> 02:05:47.640
When it comes to the I mean, first of all,

2692
02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:50.880
I think geopolitical stuff and wars are I mean, wars

2693
02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:54.800
are bad, right, Like there's there's no version of a

2694
02:05:54.880 --> 02:05:58.079
war that's good. They're certainly like righteous wars. But like

2695
02:05:59.359 --> 02:06:03.239
the things that happen in World War Two for US

2696
02:06:03.279 --> 02:06:07.079
and our allies to save the world essentially, like are

2697
02:06:07.159 --> 02:06:09.560
not like there's a lot of death. You've got like

2698
02:06:09.640 --> 02:06:11.880
tens of millions, was it sixty to eighty million people?

2699
02:06:11.960 --> 02:06:15.600
Or in World War two nothing good, nothing good, and

2700
02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:19.520
yet like so now everything is amplified by like the Internet,

2701
02:06:19.760 --> 02:06:21.680
like we just we are much more aware of what's

2702
02:06:21.680 --> 02:06:23.640
going on because we were getting like minute by minute

2703
02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:24.279
or hour by.

2704
02:06:24.239 --> 02:06:25.880
Hour or day by day sort of updates.

2705
02:06:25.920 --> 02:06:30.760
So I think war feels heavier, Like I think there's

2706
02:06:30.760 --> 02:06:32.359
a lot of people that have this perception that this

2707
02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:35.159
is this like, well, no, we saw it with the

2708
02:06:35.159 --> 02:06:37.399
Iraq and Afghanistan wars too. People were saying, like, it's

2709
02:06:37.399 --> 02:06:38.159
the new viet think.

2710
02:06:38.079 --> 02:06:39.840
That's where it started was back then.

2711
02:06:39.800 --> 02:06:43.880
And you're like, I mean it's like a tiny percentage

2712
02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:46.640
of the people that were wounded or killed in Vietnam

2713
02:06:46.760 --> 02:06:49.119
as you know, it's like three thousand versus eighty thousand.

2714
02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:51.840
I mean, it's just like a wild difference in the numbers,

2715
02:06:51.840 --> 02:06:54.720
and you just go like it's not the same thing.

2716
02:06:54.920 --> 02:06:56.760
But I think we always the first time was up

2717
02:06:56.840 --> 02:06:59.039
upfront and personal, like yes, every time we turned on

2718
02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:01.880
the TV and it was just constant twenty every night.

2719
02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:05.159
And the first time we had that really was the

2720
02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:07.159
Gulf War, which was just like super quick in the

2721
02:07:07.239 --> 02:07:10.840
nineties because really Vietnam was like news real, I mean,

2722
02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:12.760
it was like him and.

2723
02:07:12.720 --> 02:07:15.479
Then it was started with the golf War. The wars

2724
02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:17.920
in Iraq is what really what started all of this.

2725
02:07:18.079 --> 02:07:20.159
It became you can literally broadcast it in real time.

2726
02:07:20.159 --> 02:07:24.079
There were correspondents for cable news live on the air

2727
02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:26.560
as things are blowing up behind them, and that was

2728
02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:29.840
just not a thing we had before. No fast forward

2729
02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:32.479
to now what you end up with, I think is

2730
02:07:33.239 --> 02:07:35.720
so basically we over were feeling the weight of it,

2731
02:07:36.199 --> 02:07:39.039
and we oversimplify everything because again now everything is are

2732
02:07:39.039 --> 02:07:41.000
you pro this or you're anti this? Everything's black and white,

2733
02:07:41.039 --> 02:07:42.720
and war is just not black and white. It just

2734
02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:50.079
isn't it can't be what bothers me about the pro

2735
02:07:50.079 --> 02:07:54.239
Palestine stuff or the is most of it is rooted

2736
02:07:54.279 --> 02:07:56.439
in anti Semitism. And I don't even think most people

2737
02:07:56.640 --> 02:07:58.880
realize they're being anti Semitic when they say some of

2738
02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:02.279
the things from the River to the sea is racist.

2739
02:08:02.520 --> 02:08:05.039
You're saying that you want to I mean, like Hamas's

2740
02:08:05.119 --> 02:08:07.720
explicit charter was we want to kill Jews everywhere they

2741
02:08:07.720 --> 02:08:11.119
are in the world. Okay, So that is the that's

2742
02:08:11.159 --> 02:08:14.720
the organization we're dealing with. And the people in Gaza

2743
02:08:14.880 --> 02:08:17.039
elected these people in two thousand and six and then

2744
02:08:17.039 --> 02:08:20.560
they immediately took over everything, murdered any opposition, never had

2745
02:08:20.560 --> 02:08:23.359
elections again. But they were elected. I mean these people

2746
02:08:23.359 --> 02:08:27.399
were elected by the people in Gaza. And in Gaza

2747
02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:30.479
and the West Bank children are taught that the best

2748
02:08:30.479 --> 02:08:31.720
thing you can do is murder a Jew, and they

2749
02:08:31.720 --> 02:08:33.840
teach them how to slit jewe throats, and like, there

2750
02:08:33.920 --> 02:08:36.920
is an indoctrination that's happening that we will not change

2751
02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:40.399
for generations, even if you, even if you could snap,

2752
02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:43.279
Donald Trump could snap his fingers. And in the conflict

2753
02:08:44.079 --> 02:08:46.640
this one, there will not be two state solution tomorrow.

2754
02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:49.680
There will not be because there are a significant portion

2755
02:08:50.279 --> 02:08:52.960
of people who are pouce to any and either Gaza

2756
02:08:53.119 --> 02:08:57.600
or West Bank truly believe that they've got to kill

2757
02:08:57.640 --> 02:09:00.720
all the Jews. That is a fact and there's just

2758
02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:03.920
no getting around that. Not like, are they also victims

2759
02:09:04.119 --> 02:09:06.760
of Hamas? Absolutely they are, because Hamas does not care

2760
02:09:06.800 --> 02:09:10.520
about them at all. Hamas uses them as a tool

2761
02:09:10.840 --> 02:09:13.640
to get They know how the Western press works and

2762
02:09:13.640 --> 02:09:17.600
they've been playing us like a fiddle for decades, and

2763
02:09:17.880 --> 02:09:21.399
they know that they can use civilians as human shields.

2764
02:09:21.439 --> 02:09:23.279
They know that they can hide weapons, they can commit

2765
02:09:23.319 --> 02:09:26.000
war crimes over and over and over and over again,

2766
02:09:26.159 --> 02:09:29.359
and as long as it results in civilians dying, the

2767
02:09:29.399 --> 02:09:31.439
Western press will use it as a way to point

2768
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:35.079
that Israel is trying to kill all the Palestinians instead

2769
02:09:35.079 --> 02:09:40.199
of like understanding that what's happening is that Hamas wants

2770
02:09:40.239 --> 02:09:45.600
those civilian casualties and the best exit. There are so

2771
02:09:45.640 --> 02:09:47.319
many good examples of this, but the one I point

2772
02:09:47.319 --> 02:09:51.159
to a lot is Madi Tali I think is his name.

2773
02:09:52.079 --> 02:09:53.680
He's at the Free Press now, he was at AP

2774
02:09:53.840 --> 02:09:56.079
and he there's a clip of him on Instagram, like

2775
02:09:56.119 --> 02:09:57.800
to give him the speech, and he's basically saying like, look,

2776
02:09:57.840 --> 02:10:01.800
I think I was the first person to change an

2777
02:10:01.880 --> 02:10:04.239
article because of a threat from Hamas. Like basically I

2778
02:10:04.279 --> 02:10:06.439
had a source inside of Gaza As a great reporter

2779
02:10:07.079 --> 02:10:09.680
came to this information, and basically the information was Hamas

2780
02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:12.000
is dressing up as civilians. This is in two thousand

2781
02:10:12.000 --> 02:10:15.359
and eight. They're dressing as civilians so that when they

2782
02:10:15.399 --> 02:10:17.560
get killed, they're counting them as civilians. And not only that,

2783
02:10:17.600 --> 02:10:19.800
like obviously the enemy can't tell who's who, and you

2784
02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:22.680
know they're all this deception going on. Well, that person

2785
02:10:22.760 --> 02:10:24.000
ends up calling and be like you got to take

2786
02:10:24.039 --> 02:10:27.239
that out because you know the underlying story is Hamas

2787
02:10:27.239 --> 02:10:29.119
has figured out who I am and they're threatening to

2788
02:10:29.199 --> 02:10:30.960
kill me and my family if you don't change that.

2789
02:10:31.319 --> 02:10:33.720
And he petitioned the AP at the time, who he

2790
02:10:33.760 --> 02:10:35.880
worked for, to at least put a note in the

2791
02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:38.840
article that like, we have changed this article to comply

2792
02:10:38.920 --> 02:10:42.239
with hamas propaganda, like it's fair at least say what happened,

2793
02:10:42.239 --> 02:10:44.439
We'll take the thing out, and they wouldn't do it.

2794
02:10:44.520 --> 02:10:46.439
So that's been going on since two thousand and eight.

2795
02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:48.359
That was only two years after Hamas came in power.

2796
02:10:48.920 --> 02:10:52.119
They absolutely know how to do this stuff. There were

2797
02:10:52.119 --> 02:10:56.159
people on the left celebrating October seventh before Israel did anything.

2798
02:10:56.199 --> 02:10:58.239
So don't tell me this is about Israel's actions. Don't

2799
02:10:58.279 --> 02:11:01.000
tell me this is about Israel's like missteps in the war,

2800
02:11:01.159 --> 02:11:03.159
things that we don't agree with. There are plenty of

2801
02:11:03.199 --> 02:11:06.479
people in Israel that disagree with bbing that nowho. They

2802
02:11:06.479 --> 02:11:08.239
don't like him, they don't think he's leading this war. Well,

2803
02:11:08.600 --> 02:11:10.720
they blame him for October seventh in the first place.

2804
02:11:11.239 --> 02:11:13.960
And I would never say that that those people in

2805
02:11:14.039 --> 02:11:17.800
Israel are anti Semitic. You know that doesn't fly. But

2806
02:11:18.039 --> 02:11:19.359
I do think a lot of people on the left

2807
02:11:19.399 --> 02:11:22.359
hide behind this. No, I'm not anti Semitic, I'm anti Zionists,

2808
02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:23.960
which again I was just like, so you just don't

2809
02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:26.720
think Jews should have a place to live, right and

2810
02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:29.359
so anyway, the point is we're never really having the

2811
02:11:29.399 --> 02:11:33.279
fair conversation because people will accuse Israel of a genocide

2812
02:11:33.720 --> 02:11:36.760
or recognize let's just take the recognization of the Palestinian

2813
02:11:36.800 --> 02:11:38.560
state that we just saw a bunch of European countries

2814
02:11:38.600 --> 02:11:42.560
do how do you think that benefits the people in

2815
02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:48.239
Gaza or West Bank. You're legitimizing their terrorist overlords, right,

2816
02:11:48.319 --> 02:11:51.079
I mean, because we both agree that they're led by lunatics.

2817
02:11:51.239 --> 02:11:53.600
I mean I think anyone that doesn't agree with that,

2818
02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:55.960
I go, you are then an anti semi because if

2819
02:11:56.000 --> 02:11:57.640
you don't think people that say they want to eliminate

2820
02:11:57.640 --> 02:12:00.640
all Jews everywhere they are in the world, if you

2821
02:12:00.640 --> 02:12:03.520
think they're okay to lead the country, you are legitimate.

2822
02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:06.840
You're legitimizing Hamas. And they're trying to say, yeah, but

2823
02:12:06.880 --> 02:12:09.960
Hamas has to go, Well, you're but they're they're in

2824
02:12:09.960 --> 02:12:11.720
the state right now, you know what I mean? Like,

2825
02:12:11.800 --> 02:12:14.920
so you've got to say we want there to be

2826
02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:17.039
a Palestinian state. I have no problem with saying that.

2827
02:12:17.079 --> 02:12:18.720
I have no problem with people saying there should be

2828
02:12:18.720 --> 02:12:20.880
two state solutions whatever. There's all the solutions that are

2829
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:23.279
out there, and I would love to see the Palestinian

2830
02:12:23.279 --> 02:12:26.399
people raise up and say they don't they aren't gonna

2831
02:12:26.399 --> 02:12:29.479
take this from Hamas anymore, but they're not very capable

2832
02:12:29.479 --> 02:12:31.239
of doing it. And then you also just look at

2833
02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:33.800
this is not an Arab versus Jew thing either, because

2834
02:12:33.800 --> 02:12:36.239
people are always like, oh, Israel's blocking blah blah blah.

2835
02:12:36.319 --> 02:12:38.439
I'm like, okay, you know they share a border with

2836
02:12:38.479 --> 02:12:42.560
Egypt too, Why is Egypt close their border. It's because

2837
02:12:42.680 --> 02:12:45.359
they're scared of Hamas and they're scared of terrorist attack

2838
02:12:45.399 --> 02:12:48.279
happening on their area. And they've been through this, right,

2839
02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:50.680
And so I go, okay, this is not as simple

2840
02:12:50.720 --> 02:12:55.039
as Jew versus Arab because this is Egypt, Arab majority Gaza,

2841
02:12:55.079 --> 02:12:58.319
and they in Egypt doesn't trust Hamas or or Gazans.

2842
02:12:59.399 --> 02:13:01.720
It's so so much more complicated, and I just find

2843
02:13:01.760 --> 02:13:04.680
that there's almost nowhere having a nuanced conversation about it.

2844
02:13:04.720 --> 02:13:07.600
I do not think Israel has done everything right. It

2845
02:13:07.640 --> 02:13:10.119
would be impossible for anyone to in any kind of

2846
02:13:10.119 --> 02:13:12.560
war situation. No one has. We didn't do it right.

2847
02:13:12.640 --> 02:13:14.439
But the thing I point to all the time is

2848
02:13:14.479 --> 02:13:17.279
that when you look at the civilian to combat ratio

2849
02:13:17.840 --> 02:13:22.159
of killings in Gaza, specifically this entire time for almost

2850
02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:24.880
two years now, it's like one point five to one,

2851
02:13:25.520 --> 02:13:28.279
like ours was like nine to one in Afghanistan or

2852
02:13:28.279 --> 02:13:32.880
something in Iraq and stuff. It's unheard of in urban warfare.

2853
02:13:32.920 --> 02:13:36.279
It's literally something that militarys are studying because they're like,

2854
02:13:36.399 --> 02:13:39.399
how did you pull this off? They've dropped more bombs

2855
02:13:39.439 --> 02:13:42.479
than they've killed people in well, so does that mean

2856
02:13:42.479 --> 02:13:45.359
they're bad shots? Like if you're trying to do a genocide,

2857
02:13:45.359 --> 02:13:47.640
you could just kill everyone, like Israel has the power

2858
02:13:47.680 --> 02:13:50.560
to do it. They're telegraphing their moods, they're dropping leaflets,

2859
02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:53.079
they're they're announcing stuff. Part of the reason they've had

2860
02:13:53.119 --> 02:13:56.079
the levels so much of the Gaza strip is because

2861
02:13:56.760 --> 02:13:58.800
they will move people out of an area and then

2862
02:13:58.840 --> 02:14:01.119
they go start searching house by house for tunnels and

2863
02:14:01.159 --> 02:14:03.680
what they were finding is like bombs, Like they're rigged

2864
02:14:03.680 --> 02:14:06.800
to kill. Well, so, do you think the ideas should

2865
02:14:06.840 --> 02:14:10.359
send soldiers in to their death to search a place known.

2866
02:14:10.399 --> 02:14:12.600
They're sending drones in now and once they see it

2867
02:14:12.600 --> 02:14:14.680
trip wired up, they just blow the whole building. They

2868
02:14:14.720 --> 02:14:17.560
literally just call in a missile. They blow the whole

2869
02:14:17.600 --> 02:14:20.600
thing up because it's not worth losing more lives. But

2870
02:14:20.600 --> 02:14:22.560
they've got to find Hamas, and so they're just blowing

2871
02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:24.680
like that's why they're leveling buildings. They're not doing it

2872
02:14:24.720 --> 02:14:27.479
for fund Seas. They're doing it because Hamas already rigged

2873
02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:30.800
the buildings to blow if they walk into them. They're

2874
02:14:30.840 --> 02:14:33.880
booby driving stuff. Hamas has committed every war crime there is,

2875
02:14:34.319 --> 02:14:35.720
and yet no one talks about them.

2876
02:14:35.840 --> 02:14:39.399
You've also got a situation where you have a captured people,

2877
02:14:40.479 --> 02:14:45.239
so southern border Egypt doesn't want them, right, no other

2878
02:14:45.439 --> 02:14:49.000
nation their nation state will take Palestinian.

2879
02:14:48.399 --> 02:14:50.239
Refugees, no other Arab country will.

2880
02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:55.000
And yet you can't go in and conduct your insurgencies

2881
02:14:55.039 --> 02:14:59.520
to take out and target Hamas. So the only criticism

2882
02:14:59.520 --> 02:15:02.560
maybe is well, how come Israel can't filter through the

2883
02:15:02.600 --> 02:15:04.439
people who are not amass and good people?

2884
02:15:04.479 --> 02:15:08.399
And you knows is making that very very hard. They're

2885
02:15:08.479 --> 02:15:10.800
hiding amongst those people at every creed.

2886
02:15:11.520 --> 02:15:15.279
So you've got all these Arab nations not wanted to

2887
02:15:15.319 --> 02:15:17.640
take them in. And then the other thing that has

2888
02:15:17.680 --> 02:15:20.680
been so ignored and convoluted and a bunch of bullshit

2889
02:15:20.840 --> 02:15:22.600
is everyone's talking about the history of the land that

2890
02:15:22.680 --> 02:15:26.960
goes back and it's always been Palestinian, which is like

2891
02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:30.239
I've had so many conversations with various people on this blake,

2892
02:15:30.279 --> 02:15:33.399
and it's it's just it's tiring, it really is.

2893
02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:39.079
Yeah, But I mean I again, you go, okay, the yeah,

2894
02:15:39.640 --> 02:15:44.199
I'll forgive the ignorance for people that aren't Christian or Jewish,

2895
02:15:44.359 --> 02:15:47.520
but I find it hard to believe that they don't

2896
02:15:47.600 --> 02:15:50.479
know that history of the Jews, not just like the

2897
02:15:50.520 --> 02:15:52.479
history of the ancient Bible stuff like I mean, these

2898
02:15:52.479 --> 02:15:54.159
guys were slaves in Egypt and stuff like that, and

2899
02:15:54.199 --> 02:15:55.800
it's a promise land. And even if you don't want

2900
02:15:55.840 --> 02:15:59.319
to buy that stuff, I mean, there's historical accuracy to

2901
02:15:59.479 --> 02:16:02.399
that that you know, you have to believe some of it.

2902
02:16:02.680 --> 02:16:04.439
And then but like, like, okay, we don't have to

2903
02:16:04.439 --> 02:16:06.399
go back three thousand years. We can go back to

2904
02:16:06.399 --> 02:16:09.079
the nineteen thirties where they were ran out of every

2905
02:16:09.079 --> 02:16:12.960
European country. And so I go, okay, where do you

2906
02:16:13.000 --> 02:16:16.640
want to do, and I go, has Israel ever started

2907
02:16:16.640 --> 02:16:17.840
a conflict?

2908
02:16:18.279 --> 02:16:21.479
No, they have not. You even go before third nineteen,

2909
02:16:21.520 --> 02:16:23.359
there's go to what nineteen seventeen?

2910
02:16:24.199 --> 02:16:26.079
Right, yeah, but I mean Israel's not a nation till

2911
02:16:26.119 --> 02:16:28.520
nineteen thirty seven, so you like what I mean, a

2912
02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:29.560
state or something.

2913
02:16:29.560 --> 02:16:32.719
But yeah, as far as the people that became displaced, yes,

2914
02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:35.920
Ottoman Empire, and then the people who claim to be

2915
02:16:35.959 --> 02:16:38.959
Palestinians of the land and have heritage were people who

2916
02:16:39.040 --> 02:16:42.120
sided with the Ottoman Empire to help them push out

2917
02:16:42.200 --> 02:16:45.360
the Jewish people who became displaced. All there was always

2918
02:16:45.360 --> 02:16:48.680
a Jewish presence. So I pretty sure it sounds like

2919
02:16:48.719 --> 02:16:51.079
you and I know enough on this, and you can

2920
02:16:51.120 --> 02:16:53.799
even go back further the tribes of Judah that became

2921
02:16:54.239 --> 02:16:58.040
the Jewish people, even going further than that, you know.

2922
02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:01.520
And also show me any tear in the entire world

2923
02:17:01.719 --> 02:17:03.920
that has been the same group of people the entire time. Oh,

2924
02:17:04.200 --> 02:17:07.159
you can't even find one that's lasted for thousands of years.

2925
02:17:07.280 --> 02:17:11.399
I mean, like the China's fighting with people about their land.

2926
02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:13.440
I mean, like Russia is doing the same. Like this

2927
02:17:13.479 --> 02:17:16.120
is a normal thing. It's not been normal for our lifetime.

2928
02:17:16.120 --> 02:17:19.959
Because post World War Two, we said, no one is

2929
02:17:20.000 --> 02:17:22.920
doing this conquest for territory anymore, and we're gonna make

2930
02:17:22.920 --> 02:17:26.040
sure it doesn't happen. And not that it's not happened

2931
02:17:26.079 --> 02:17:29.479
at all since then, but like you you don't get

2932
02:17:29.520 --> 02:17:31.360
a Germany trying to take over the world. You don't

2933
02:17:31.360 --> 02:17:33.399
get like that kind of thing happening since then. And

2934
02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:39.040
what people forget is that in every every war, the aggressor,

2935
02:17:39.559 --> 02:17:41.479
if they go in and try to fight someone and

2936
02:17:41.520 --> 02:17:46.520
they lose that war, territory is almost always something they

2937
02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:48.879
have to give up. And Germany had to do it

2938
02:17:48.920 --> 02:17:51.840
for a while. I mean, like obviously the Soviet Union

2939
02:17:52.079 --> 02:17:53.719
had to break up, even though that's not even like

2940
02:17:53.959 --> 02:17:57.040
the lost the they lost the Cold War or whatever,

2941
02:17:57.079 --> 02:17:59.360
but Germany had to do it. You know, you had

2942
02:17:59.399 --> 02:18:01.360
a split thing at Berlin Wall and all that kind

2943
02:18:01.360 --> 02:18:04.799
of stuff. Japan had to, you know, relegate a lot

2944
02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:06.280
of power and stuff like that, and we said we're

2945
02:18:06.280 --> 02:18:09.200
gonna build these nations back up. We didn't have to

2946
02:18:09.200 --> 02:18:11.239
do that, like we were the exception to the rule.

2947
02:18:11.399 --> 02:18:12.799
Most of the time, when you win a war, you

2948
02:18:12.840 --> 02:18:15.600
just go like you're ours now, Like that's what happens

2949
02:18:15.639 --> 02:18:17.600
when you get attacked and then you win that war?

2950
02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.040
Is that you And that's what is like all of

2951
02:18:20.079 --> 02:18:23.520
the territory Israel has ever taken or expanded has been

2952
02:18:23.600 --> 02:18:26.559
after they were attacked by not normally even just one nation.

2953
02:18:26.760 --> 02:18:29.920
It was like multiple nations around them, and they win

2954
02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:33.040
the war and then they go, Yeah, the consequence for

2955
02:18:33.079 --> 02:18:36.719
that is you know, like that should there should be

2956
02:18:36.840 --> 02:18:39.399
get Like we talked about gun violence, there should be

2957
02:18:39.440 --> 02:18:44.000
consequences for invading another country. I hope that Russia has

2958
02:18:44.040 --> 02:18:46.319
consequences for having done it. I think they already have

2959
02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:48.040
some in just the amount of people that have been

2960
02:18:48.040 --> 02:18:52.959
wounded or killed, will you know, And so there there

2961
02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:56.319
are consequences to starting a war. And for some reason,

2962
02:18:56.639 --> 02:18:59.000
and I think it's anti Semitism, none of those rules

2963
02:18:59.000 --> 02:19:00.680
apply to Israel. So we have we apply at different

2964
02:19:00.680 --> 02:19:02.600
standard Israel than we do to every other country in

2965
02:19:02.600 --> 02:19:05.000
the world, any other country they got attacked. I don't

2966
02:19:05.000 --> 02:19:09.239
believe for a second if cartels in Mexico. Let's just

2967
02:19:09.280 --> 02:19:12.040
pretend the cartels totally had control of Mexico. I mean,

2968
02:19:12.040 --> 02:19:15.079
I think that's not that far off. Okay, yeah, say,

2969
02:19:15.079 --> 02:19:16.879
I'm not sure how much that's pretended. But like they

2970
02:19:16.879 --> 02:19:19.959
don't have a Hamas level of control over stuff. But

2971
02:19:20.040 --> 02:19:21.920
let's just pretend they did and they came across our

2972
02:19:21.920 --> 02:19:24.239
border and murdered I think the math would be thirty

2973
02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:26.000
thousand people in Texas.

2974
02:19:26.360 --> 02:19:28.239
Like, if you're looking proportionally.

2975
02:19:28.639 --> 02:19:31.159
You do you really think that, like anyone would blame

2976
02:19:31.280 --> 02:19:35.239
us for going into Mexico and just bombing the absolute

2977
02:19:35.920 --> 02:19:38.760
crap out of the cartels. No, I mean, no one.

2978
02:19:39.239 --> 02:19:41.920
We've already proven what we would do if we can

2979
02:19:42.239 --> 02:19:43.520
we were Yeah, world War.

2980
02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:45.559
Two, that's what happens. We get bombed in Japan, and

2981
02:19:45.559 --> 02:19:49.879
that's even relatively small smaller number than got killed of

2982
02:19:50.840 --> 02:19:52.319
Israel's population on October.

2983
02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:54.559
So the thing is what the Middle East has been

2984
02:19:54.600 --> 02:19:58.360
in constant conflict forever, all over or well not over,

2985
02:19:58.399 --> 02:20:03.399
but under the guys of control of a holy land

2986
02:20:03.639 --> 02:20:05.879
or under the guys of religion. That's what it's always

2987
02:20:05.879 --> 02:20:10.719
been about. Yeah, but today's conflicts if if we're looking,

2988
02:20:10.760 --> 02:20:16.600
we're looking at extreme extremist Islamist or extreme Islamist or

2989
02:20:16.879 --> 02:20:21.680
using their religion of Islam, not even not even the

2990
02:20:21.719 --> 02:20:24.719
true faith. They're they're using the extreme side of that

2991
02:20:24.840 --> 02:20:29.200
to try to gain support, subjugate people, and all they

2992
02:20:29.200 --> 02:20:33.959
really are doing is using it to be vicious dictorial rulers, authoritarians.

2993
02:20:34.000 --> 02:20:36.520
I mean, that's all they want is power and money.

2994
02:20:36.600 --> 02:20:39.360
And that's even some other religious aspect, that's even between

2995
02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:44.639
different versions of those Islamic express you know. And and

2996
02:20:44.719 --> 02:20:47.239
so now I have more hope about the Middle East

2997
02:20:47.280 --> 02:20:49.040
than I have in a while, in a sense that

2998
02:20:49.360 --> 02:20:51.200
like I'm going to give Donald Trump the credit in

2999
02:20:51.280 --> 02:20:55.479
that the AVERYM records were like a legitimately legitimate thing

3000
02:20:55.479 --> 02:20:58.159
I did not think was possible. And I think what

3001
02:20:58.840 --> 02:21:01.959
has slowly happened is that more Arab countries don't want

3002
02:21:01.959 --> 02:21:07.200
to be, you know, in the like constantly turmoil of

3003
02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:09.319
the Middle East. I think they realize, like they're like

3004
02:21:09.559 --> 02:21:14.159
economic there are economic benefits to not allowing terrorism to

3005
02:21:14.200 --> 02:21:16.920
happen and to protecting your people and let people flourish.

3006
02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:21.159
And you're slowly starting to see more people disassociate from Iran.

3007
02:21:21.239 --> 02:21:23.559
Iran is obviously the gigantic thing that we've not even

3008
02:21:23.600 --> 02:21:26.879
we've never mentioned Iran. But Iran is absolutely stoking all

3009
02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:29.079
of this, like they support them off, they smart.

3010
02:21:29.360 --> 02:21:32.440
They like I know, they use they fund all these

3011
02:21:32.440 --> 02:21:34.559
serist organizations and use them as their proxy so that

3012
02:21:34.600 --> 02:21:37.559
they are not directly involved and say, hey, you know

3013
02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:39.360
it wasn't me, we didn't do it.

3014
02:21:40.319 --> 02:21:42.559
But I think like the combination of the Abraham Accords

3015
02:21:42.600 --> 02:21:44.360
that had a few nations come on this and start

3016
02:21:44.360 --> 02:21:46.360
supporting it. And then you see during this conflict, you

3017
02:21:46.399 --> 02:21:50.000
see nations like Jordan and stuff like swatting missiles and

3018
02:21:50.120 --> 02:21:52.040
drones out of the air because they're in their airspace

3019
02:21:52.040 --> 02:21:54.239
and they're like, hey, you're in ours airspace. They never

3020
02:21:54.280 --> 02:21:57.120
they would have done that twenty years ago. So I

3021
02:21:57.159 --> 02:21:59.079
see that, and then I see more people like Egypt

3022
02:21:59.159 --> 02:22:03.159
really like it's like I don't want The thing is,

3023
02:22:03.159 --> 02:22:04.840
more and more people are wanting to be allies with

3024
02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:06.840
Israel in the sense that like we want to trade,

3025
02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:09.639
like we want to like we don't want this, Like

3026
02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:12.479
you're seeing that happen more and more. Well, I think

3027
02:22:12.520 --> 02:22:12.879
the thing.

3028
02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:18.559
That is when when Israel when they launched that that

3029
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:22.280
attack to kill those five Hamas leaders right and guitar

3030
02:22:23.719 --> 02:22:26.280
they were, Qatar was not happy about them invading their

3031
02:22:26.280 --> 02:22:30.280
airspace and violating their sovereignty by doing that. But at

3032
02:22:30.280 --> 02:22:33.360
the same time, after they had their emergency meeting, the

3033
02:22:33.479 --> 02:22:37.639
Arab Islamis nations everybody was mad. They called on Donald

3034
02:22:37.639 --> 02:22:39.760
Trump even saying, hey, you have leverage over Israel, can

3035
02:22:39.799 --> 02:22:41.799
you please rein them in like, but none of them

3036
02:22:41.840 --> 02:22:45.920
attacked Israel. I think on one side, they probably realized,

3037
02:22:45.959 --> 02:22:48.719
like Hamas, Yes, is a problem. We need to find

3038
02:22:48.719 --> 02:22:51.200
a solution. I think I think personally that a lot

3039
02:22:51.239 --> 02:22:53.680
of the Arab nations that you were just speaking of,

3040
02:22:53.879 --> 02:22:55.719
I think they want to modernize and move forward and

3041
02:22:55.920 --> 02:22:58.559
are getting tired they do of being held back by

3042
02:22:58.559 --> 02:23:02.680
this constant bickering bullshit. But they even have a hard

3043
02:23:02.680 --> 02:23:06.479
time getting getting a handle on these extremists because like

3044
02:23:06.520 --> 02:23:09.920
you're literally fighting some guerrilla warfare within their.

3045
02:23:10.600 --> 02:23:13.000
And it's evil. Again. It's like people that are willing

3046
02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:15.159
to it's very hard to stop people that are willing

3047
02:23:15.159 --> 02:23:17.920
to kill themselves to kill other people. It's very hard

3048
02:23:17.959 --> 02:23:18.399
to stop that.

3049
02:23:18.479 --> 02:23:19.719
Fanatics. They're just fanatics.

3050
02:23:19.760 --> 02:23:23.040
They're fanatics, and and so like that is the part

3051
02:23:23.079 --> 02:23:25.479
where I go all of that. It's like I have

3052
02:23:25.840 --> 02:23:27.319
more hope than I have in the sense that there's

3053
02:23:27.360 --> 02:23:29.520
some more normalized relations. You look at, like no one

3054
02:23:29.559 --> 02:23:32.040
defended Iran in any of this stuff. Iran didn't even

3055
02:23:32.040 --> 02:23:35.000
really retaliate. They kind of like threw things is Reel's way.

3056
02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:36.319
But they knew it wasn't gonna work.

3057
02:23:36.520 --> 02:23:40.319
No, they knew. So so let's get back to the

3058
02:23:40.360 --> 02:23:43.719
European nation. Let's just specifically Starmer and Macron. I like,

3059
02:23:43.920 --> 02:23:46.680
what do you think of these people that are calling

3060
02:23:46.760 --> 02:23:49.680
for this recognization of statehood? Now here's here's the thing

3061
02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:52.200
you touched on a bit when when you were talking

3062
02:23:52.239 --> 02:23:54.840
about recognizing them as a state. But the problem is

3063
02:23:54.840 --> 02:23:57.639
if they if they do this, then now it literally

3064
02:23:57.680 --> 02:24:02.440
becomes a conflict between legitimized recognized states or nations. Right,

3065
02:24:02.840 --> 02:24:06.760
so now is it considered a legitimate war between two states?

3066
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:09.280
That's what I don't think they're thinking of the consequences

3067
02:24:09.280 --> 02:24:10.760
of this. I don't think they I don't think they've

3068
02:24:10.799 --> 02:24:12.399
really thought about what it means for them. I think

3069
02:24:12.479 --> 02:24:14.920
it's virtue signaling, is what it is. Right, you mentioned

3070
02:24:14.920 --> 02:24:17.920
that earlier, and it's basically like I'm signaling to And

3071
02:24:17.959 --> 02:24:21.559
first of all, I have this conversation with lots of

3072
02:24:21.600 --> 02:24:25.559
people fairly often because I think so much of it

3073
02:24:25.600 --> 02:24:27.040
is anti Semitic, And like I said, I don't think

3074
02:24:27.040 --> 02:24:29.120
most of the time they realize they're really being anti semitic.

3075
02:24:29.200 --> 02:24:30.879
They just don't even understand what they're saying. They're just

3076
02:24:30.959 --> 02:24:33.680
parroting what they heard. And I think it's understandable for

3077
02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:37.200
people to be really upset about seeing people like civilians

3078
02:24:37.200 --> 02:24:39.319
and kids dying, Like I think that that's a totally

3079
02:24:39.360 --> 02:24:42.639
normal reaction to be outraged about it. I just don't

3080
02:24:42.639 --> 02:24:45.120
feel like I felt the I just I feel like,

3081
02:24:45.159 --> 02:24:49.680
specifically that October seventh didn't get the press coverage, that

3082
02:24:51.760 --> 02:24:55.680
anything that the IDF does wrong be a mistake or

3083
02:24:56.600 --> 02:24:59.440
bad behavior, Like I think both those things happen, and

3084
02:24:59.479 --> 02:25:02.200
I don't see like what I saw after October seventh

3085
02:25:02.280 --> 02:25:07.920
was a bunch of people cheering on women getting like

3086
02:25:08.639 --> 02:25:12.879
raped and then murdered and doing it in front of

3087
02:25:12.879 --> 02:25:15.440
their friends, and watching their friends die, and killing parents

3088
02:25:15.440 --> 02:25:17.159
in front of kids and kids in front of parents.

3089
02:25:17.440 --> 02:25:20.479
Like the barbarism of what Hamas did that day.

3090
02:25:22.760 --> 02:25:23.559
Should have.

3091
02:25:25.520 --> 02:25:27.399
Should have been the thing that like totally did them in.

3092
02:25:27.600 --> 02:25:29.680
Now they knew what they were doing by pulling hostages in.

3093
02:25:30.719 --> 02:25:32.559
They had this plan all along, They knew what the

3094
02:25:32.719 --> 02:25:36.639
goal was is to entrench Israel into this long thing,

3095
02:25:36.680 --> 02:25:39.479
because Israel will like look worse and worse the longer

3096
02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:42.879
it goes on, and the and they control everything. They

3097
02:25:42.920 --> 02:25:46.399
control the Ministry of Health, they control any any press

3098
02:25:46.440 --> 02:25:49.440
in there is controlled by them. They don't let anyone in,

3099
02:25:50.200 --> 02:25:52.000
so no one really knows what's going on. So it

3100
02:25:52.159 --> 02:25:55.319
like and for whatever reason, our Western journalists choose to

3101
02:25:55.319 --> 02:26:00.799
believe Hamas over anyone else. And and I think that

3102
02:26:00.879 --> 02:26:02.440
speaks to the anti Semitism of it.

3103
02:26:02.479 --> 02:26:09.040
Like I said, I can't better criticized for the response

3104
02:26:09.120 --> 02:26:10.760
before they even responded, they were.

3105
02:26:10.840 --> 02:26:13.280
Yeah, they weren't criticized for the response they were. People

3106
02:26:13.280 --> 02:26:16.799
were cheering it on while while people were still being

3107
02:26:16.920 --> 02:26:20.559
raped and murdered in Israel, while it was happening, and

3108
02:26:20.559 --> 02:26:22.440
and cheering it on and going like this is what's

3109
02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:25.200
turn it into oppressors versus oppressed. Again, that's a left

3110
02:26:25.239 --> 02:26:29.680
problem is everything is about who's the victim and who's

3111
02:26:29.760 --> 02:26:33.959
the who's the person victimizing, who's the oppressor, who's the oppressed,

3112
02:26:34.680 --> 02:26:37.520
who is the settler, who is the like you know,

3113
02:26:37.559 --> 02:26:40.479
they've turned this whole thing into like everyone's evil, America's evil.

3114
02:26:40.520 --> 02:26:45.040
And again they've been indoctrinated to believe that anytime there's

3115
02:26:45.079 --> 02:26:48.440
a power dynamic that's different, that the person that has

3116
02:26:48.559 --> 02:26:50.920
more power is evil and the person has less power

3117
02:26:51.000 --> 02:26:54.799
is good and that is just flawed. That that is

3118
02:26:54.840 --> 02:27:00.399
not if someone's abusing their power, but like again the

3119
02:27:01.319 --> 02:27:03.799
oppressor in this case, and so we excuse it, and

3120
02:27:03.879 --> 02:27:06.399
they did. I mean, like you saw on college campuses,

3121
02:27:06.440 --> 02:27:07.760
you saw on the progressive left.

3122
02:27:07.799 --> 02:27:08.399
You saw a.

3123
02:27:11.040 --> 02:27:15.879
Celebration, not just like a I think sometimes people have

3124
02:27:15.959 --> 02:27:18.799
to be violent to get rid of their oppressor. It

3125
02:27:18.840 --> 02:27:22.280
was like a celebration. And I just go when you're

3126
02:27:22.360 --> 02:27:27.120
when it's always Jews that you're celebrating dying, there's a problem,

3127
02:27:28.079 --> 02:27:31.479
you know, like you're not calling out China's oppression of Wigers,

3128
02:27:31.559 --> 02:27:33.479
You're not calling out like you know.

3129
02:27:34.120 --> 02:27:35.879
You're thinking a lot of what I'm already thinking one

3130
02:27:35.920 --> 02:27:36.959
before I say it's fun.

3131
02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:39.239
Right, there are actual genocides happening all over the world,

3132
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:41.440
and yet the one we talk about is the alleged

3133
02:27:41.479 --> 02:27:43.920
one that Israel is like they're the worst at genocide

3134
02:27:44.079 --> 02:27:46.360
anyone's ever been. Well, if they're trying to kill all

3135
02:27:46.360 --> 02:27:48.840
the Palestinians, because they could drop one bomb tomorrow and before.

3136
02:27:48.559 --> 02:27:50.520
Well they could. But let's talk about two things. First,

3137
02:27:50.680 --> 02:27:53.319
let's go back a statement from River to see you. Yeah,

3138
02:27:53.399 --> 02:27:56.360
I find it ironic that people are criticizing Israel for

3139
02:27:56.719 --> 02:28:01.280
genociding people when they literally could do it within seven

3140
02:28:01.319 --> 02:28:04.920
to ten days now. From the River to the Sea

3141
02:28:05.040 --> 02:28:09.200
literally means genociding Jews, like getting rid of them all.

3142
02:28:09.319 --> 02:28:12.840
And Amasa has literally said like you, like you stated

3143
02:28:12.879 --> 02:28:15.719
earlier that they want to eliminate all Jews here.

3144
02:28:15.680 --> 02:28:18.920
Everywhere in the world, not just in the links. They

3145
02:28:18.959 --> 02:28:21.360
should document like all of them. We want them eradicate it.

3146
02:28:21.399 --> 02:28:23.600
And I think it's really important that people understand that,

3147
02:28:23.879 --> 02:28:25.879
because I don't think that that is being The New

3148
02:28:25.920 --> 02:28:27.360
York Times does not mention that.

3149
02:28:27.520 --> 02:28:30.520
Let's let's let's let's talk about this other situation about

3150
02:28:30.559 --> 02:28:35.319
recognizing the Palestinian statehood. Now we have we have an

3151
02:28:35.360 --> 02:28:36.760
issue in the or they have an issue in the

3152
02:28:36.879 --> 02:28:40.760
UK with mass immigration of people that are unchecked and unvetted.

3153
02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:43.920
You just saw what happened. I was here today or

3154
02:28:44.000 --> 02:28:48.319
yesterday in Italy right that uprising and riot over the

3155
02:28:48.360 --> 02:28:53.159
Italian government not wanting to recognize the Palestinian state. So

3156
02:28:53.159 --> 02:28:56.319
they had this giant riot with everybody on the streets

3157
02:28:56.360 --> 02:29:00.319
holding Palestinian flags. The UK is having these issues right now.

3158
02:29:01.319 --> 02:29:03.799
France has always had an issue with all of US.

3159
02:29:03.959 --> 02:29:05.559
So now if they're all going to recognize them, they

3160
02:29:05.559 --> 02:29:08.799
already have all of these people who support Palestine who

3161
02:29:08.799 --> 02:29:13.719
are obviously Arab from those regions. I'm sorry, but they

3162
02:29:13.799 --> 02:29:16.479
just infiltrated you. And now that after you recognize the

3163
02:29:16.479 --> 02:29:20.200
Palestine state, now they have even more of a reason

3164
02:29:20.319 --> 02:29:23.639
to turn on you and claim your land for Palestine.

3165
02:29:24.120 --> 02:29:27.120
And again I think it's a pay off.

3166
02:29:26.920 --> 02:29:28.639
On that, but I kind of see it. I mean,

3167
02:29:28.719 --> 02:29:31.120
it seems like this has been there's been a long

3168
02:29:31.200 --> 02:29:33.600
term plan that's been put in place, and they have

3169
02:29:33.799 --> 02:29:39.520
been using and actually doing for quite some time. Yeah.

3170
02:29:40.040 --> 02:29:44.159
The thing is, I don't even think it's well, there's

3171
02:29:44.440 --> 02:29:47.079
several things going on there the.

3172
02:29:46.479 --> 02:29:48.440
There's a lot, There's a whole lot. Yeah, and it's

3173
02:29:48.479 --> 02:29:50.040
not just about Palestine.

3174
02:29:51.319 --> 02:29:55.959
So what's interesting about all of this is that I

3175
02:29:55.959 --> 02:29:58.239
would put people in two different buckets. If you have

3176
02:29:58.319 --> 02:30:03.520
fled to another country, like not saying great things about

3177
02:30:03.520 --> 02:30:06.280
your country, probably you at least thought wherever you went to,

3178
02:30:06.719 --> 02:30:08.719
like I said, a lot of refugee kind of situations.

3179
02:30:08.760 --> 02:30:10.920
You got people from Syria, You've got people from all

3180
02:30:10.959 --> 02:30:13.079
these war torn areas of the Middle East because of

3181
02:30:13.120 --> 02:30:15.760
these conflicts that have been going on often between two

3182
02:30:15.840 --> 02:30:20.600
different versions of Arabs. Right, Like what happened in Syria

3183
02:30:20.879 --> 02:30:23.360
is like nothing to do with Jews, right it? Like

3184
02:30:23.440 --> 02:30:26.159
it or like not nothing, because I mean obviously there's

3185
02:30:26.200 --> 02:30:28.639
an American and I mean there's there's things, and that's

3186
02:30:28.719 --> 02:30:31.319
and that's where that's where I can't get with the

3187
02:30:31.399 --> 02:30:34.120
right and the left now that like everything is explained

3188
02:30:34.120 --> 02:30:37.079
by Jews or nefariously controlling everything, you know, like that's

3189
02:30:37.120 --> 02:30:40.079
just where everything goes eventually now And but like in

3190
02:30:40.120 --> 02:30:42.399
those situations like Syria, you cannot blame the Jews for Syria.

3191
02:30:42.399 --> 02:30:46.920
You cannot blame the Jews for Iraq, Iran, like any

3192
02:30:46.959 --> 02:30:49.319
of these places where people are being legitimately oppressed by

3193
02:30:49.360 --> 02:30:51.159
the people that are in power, that like really just

3194
02:30:51.239 --> 02:30:53.079
do that so that they can oppress people, Like the

3195
02:30:53.159 --> 02:30:56.520
goal is power and oppression and and money and all

3196
02:30:56.600 --> 02:30:58.360
the things that go along with it, or just religious

3197
02:30:58.360 --> 02:31:00.719
fervor whatever it might be. But these people have fled

3198
02:31:00.760 --> 02:31:03.760
those places to go to other countries. And I would

3199
02:31:03.799 --> 02:31:05.680
be willing to bet I've not seen any polls that

3200
02:31:05.760 --> 02:31:07.879
say this, but I'd be willing to bet most of

3201
02:31:07.920 --> 02:31:12.959
them are not immediately in a situation where they feel

3202
02:31:13.000 --> 02:31:15.000
like they're going to defend their home country that they

3203
02:31:15.079 --> 02:31:18.399
fled and be against the country that has accepted them, right,

3204
02:31:18.440 --> 02:31:20.479
I would just think that for the most part, that's

3205
02:31:20.479 --> 02:31:21.479
not how it's going to work. I'm not going to

3206
02:31:21.520 --> 02:31:24.360
say they're going to like but what I think happens

3207
02:31:24.440 --> 02:31:28.159
is that there are bad seeds in those groups of people,

3208
02:31:28.280 --> 02:31:29.840
just like everyone else. I don't think it's all of them.

3209
02:31:29.879 --> 02:31:31.360
I don't even know if it's a high percentage of it.

3210
02:31:31.399 --> 02:31:32.959
I don't know the numbers, but I do know that

3211
02:31:33.000 --> 02:31:36.639
like in Britain, there have been a bunch of gang

3212
02:31:36.719 --> 02:31:42.239
rapes essentially by like refugees from specifically, like.

3213
02:31:44.319 --> 02:31:47.479
A lot of it isiable.

3214
02:31:47.840 --> 02:31:50.719
And then what happens is that, like the there's been

3215
02:31:51.000 --> 02:31:53.639
massive covers the covers of that because like the politicians

3216
02:31:53.639 --> 02:31:56.200
can't talk about it, and it's not for fear of

3217
02:31:56.200 --> 02:32:00.520
being attacked necessarily from those communities. It's from being called

3218
02:32:00.600 --> 02:32:04.120
racist by the sort of what And so to me,

3219
02:32:04.239 --> 02:32:06.840
it's like they're capitulating to there's a bunch of people

3220
02:32:06.840 --> 02:32:11.360
defending a group of people unnecessarily because they're worried it's

3221
02:32:11.479 --> 02:32:14.319
racist to call out rapist. Doesn't matter what their skin

3222
02:32:14.319 --> 02:32:17.840
color is and to me, that's the rape thing specifically,

3223
02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:20.920
is like such a thing where it's like similar to

3224
02:32:21.000 --> 02:32:23.719
the Palestinian statehood kind of thing in the sense there's

3225
02:32:23.799 --> 02:32:27.079
pressure to do that. But like that's such a good

3226
02:32:27.079 --> 02:32:29.760
example of like we've got verifile evidence that, like the

3227
02:32:29.799 --> 02:32:33.760
police didn't pursue it, politicians didn't pursue it. Newspapers tried

3228
02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:36.159
to cover it up and pretend it wasn't happening, because

3229
02:32:36.159 --> 02:32:40.000
everyone was so scared of being called racist, right, and

3230
02:32:40.360 --> 02:32:42.920
that's really where the pressure came from, like from my

3231
02:32:43.040 --> 02:32:46.399
understanding of it, and maybe that was coming from those communities,

3232
02:32:46.440 --> 02:32:50.000
but it doesn't seem like that Like electorally that doesn't

3233
02:32:50.000 --> 02:32:52.239
work out. They're not a majority, Like they can cause

3234
02:32:52.280 --> 02:32:54.280
a bunch of noise and stuff, but it's that there's

3235
02:32:54.319 --> 02:32:57.159
a bunch of Britons and there's a bunch of French people,

3236
02:32:57.159 --> 02:32:59.559
and there's a bunch of Americans that are buying into

3237
02:32:59.600 --> 02:33:03.840
that narrai. It's like I am related to people that

3238
02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:06.520
that are that have bought into the anti Semitic stuff,

3239
02:33:06.520 --> 02:33:09.760
and they're all in on the like essentially into Semitism

3240
02:33:09.760 --> 02:33:12.280
of like from the to the Sea and Palestine are

3241
02:33:12.280 --> 02:33:14.399
the good guys and the bad guys. Again, everything's black

3242
02:33:14.399 --> 02:33:17.799
and white. And that's unfortunately because they're on TikTok and

3243
02:33:17.799 --> 02:33:19.879
that's where they get their news, and and China has

3244
02:33:19.879 --> 02:33:22.680
no interest in throwing pro Israel stuff in our address.

3245
02:33:22.799 --> 02:33:27.639
Let's address something though. I agree with you, true refugees

3246
02:33:28.520 --> 02:33:32.479
don't have a problem with Okay, what I'm seeing a

3247
02:33:32.520 --> 02:33:38.879
problem with is there This is obviously to me organized

3248
02:33:39.239 --> 02:33:41.200
because if you see what's going on in the UK.

3249
02:33:41.760 --> 02:33:43.799
Some of it is Yeah, for sure, you are.

3250
02:33:43.920 --> 02:33:49.079
You are seeing where now they're trying to push their there.

3251
02:33:49.360 --> 02:33:51.559
It's not going to probably happen soon. I don't know,

3252
02:33:51.680 --> 02:33:55.040
but sharial law in some areas you have complete communities

3253
02:33:55.079 --> 02:33:58.920
that are completely just Muslim. You have Muslims that are

3254
02:33:58.959 --> 02:34:02.040
in uh the becoming mayor is a becoming I don't.

3255
02:34:02.079 --> 02:34:07.200
I'm not sure the complete political structre. But anyway they're in. Yeah,

3256
02:34:07.200 --> 02:34:09.680
but but not just not just that, but other other positions.

3257
02:34:10.000 --> 02:34:12.680
They're pressuring the police. If you look at Ireland, the

3258
02:34:12.719 --> 02:34:15.920
people of Ireland aren't very they're not very happy with

3259
02:34:16.040 --> 02:34:17.280
what's been happening.

3260
02:34:16.920 --> 02:34:18.360
And they're super into Semitic.

3261
02:34:18.399 --> 02:34:21.239
Now, if this this is my this is gonna be

3262
02:34:21.319 --> 02:34:25.399
my point, Like, if it was all about refugees and

3263
02:34:25.479 --> 02:34:29.559
it wasn't about some kind of planned operation with Palestine,

3264
02:34:29.879 --> 02:34:32.799
then why aren't these refugees going there and standing up

3265
02:34:32.840 --> 02:34:38.639
for a free democratic Syriah. No one's going and saying

3266
02:34:38.680 --> 02:34:41.200
I want to free democratic Somalia, I want a free

3267
02:34:41.239 --> 02:34:44.600
democratic Syria, or you know, whatever it is. It's all

3268
02:34:44.719 --> 02:34:47.799
free Palestine. It's all Palestine, Palestine, Palestine.

3269
02:34:49.440 --> 02:34:51.520
I think most of that is the anti Semitism, like

3270
02:34:51.559 --> 02:34:54.319
I do like the it's is and I think that

3271
02:34:54.360 --> 02:34:58.600
when you get to all those other conflicts, Israel is

3272
02:34:58.639 --> 02:35:01.239
not the primary, like one of two sides on it.

3273
02:35:01.520 --> 02:35:03.559
And so it just like they can't blame like the

3274
02:35:03.600 --> 02:35:05.239
Jews are going to get blamed for everything if they

3275
02:35:05.280 --> 02:35:07.440
can get blamed for it, and so you can't blame

3276
02:35:07.479 --> 02:35:10.600
them for Syria. You can't blame them for Afghanistan. You can't.

3277
02:35:10.600 --> 02:35:12.079
But you know what I mean, Like it's like you

3278
02:35:12.079 --> 02:35:15.879
can't and so it's just an inconvenient conversation at that.

3279
02:35:15.959 --> 02:35:19.600
About the African refugees though that are that are from

3280
02:35:19.639 --> 02:35:22.920
Islama States as well, there's much pretty far removed from

3281
02:35:22.920 --> 02:35:23.520
that those.

3282
02:35:23.319 --> 02:35:25.399
Conflicts, but it's sort of the same situation there. It's

3283
02:35:25.440 --> 02:35:28.120
like most people are not talking about those conflicts like that.

3284
02:35:28.120 --> 02:35:30.079
That is not something that gets brought up ever. To me,

3285
02:35:30.440 --> 02:35:34.479
is like the some alience stuff or or or even

3286
02:35:34.559 --> 02:35:38.559
like Pakistan India stuff, like unless it deals with Jews.

3287
02:35:39.200 --> 02:35:42.000
And like I said, I go, okay, what's like you'd

3288
02:35:42.000 --> 02:35:43.920
say it's a power dynamic? Well, how is that not

3289
02:35:43.959 --> 02:35:46.520
with Indian and Pakistan? Like there's a power dynamic there too.

3290
02:35:46.520 --> 02:35:48.799
India is much more powerful than Pakistan.

3291
02:35:48.440 --> 02:35:51.239
Is like got a long history though those two countries.

3292
02:35:50.920 --> 02:35:52.360
I know, And like that's the problem is that there's

3293
02:35:52.399 --> 02:35:54.319
a lot there's a lot of history and all this stuff.

3294
02:35:54.360 --> 02:35:57.600
I also just don't think it's realistic to have a

3295
02:35:58.760 --> 02:36:01.399
I think it's a very rose or glasses and optimistic

3296
02:36:01.440 --> 02:36:03.399
to think that like this is not something that humans

3297
02:36:03.399 --> 02:36:09.399
are going to deal with always, like we fight over

3298
02:36:09.440 --> 02:36:12.600
stupid stuff. It's like you look at like speaking of genocides,

3299
02:36:12.600 --> 02:36:17.399
it's like uh Rwanda, you know, like that that was

3300
02:36:17.719 --> 02:36:21.479
like they were trying to find a racial difference between

3301
02:36:21.479 --> 02:36:23.319
each other and it was totally arbitrary and it was

3302
02:36:23.360 --> 02:36:26.959
it was a genocide and and it's like, well that

3303
02:36:26.959 --> 02:36:29.799
doesn't make any sense to us, and it's because humans

3304
02:36:30.719 --> 02:36:34.280
are fallen and evil and like we will find the

3305
02:36:34.319 --> 02:36:36.479
thing that makes a difference between us, and we will

3306
02:36:36.520 --> 02:36:38.760
we will kill each other for it. And that Sometimes

3307
02:36:38.760 --> 02:36:42.000
that's race, sometimes that's religion. Sometimes it's like we want

3308
02:36:42.000 --> 02:36:45.959
that land and you've got it. Sometimes it's resources. Sometimes

3309
02:36:46.040 --> 02:36:49.319
it is h just I think we need a we

3310
02:36:49.399 --> 02:36:52.639
need an enemy, and so especially people in power have

3311
02:36:52.680 --> 02:36:55.479
to do that. So like Hamas needs the Jews to

3312
02:36:55.479 --> 02:36:58.840
be their enemy because otherwise they can't demand the control

3313
02:36:59.159 --> 02:37:02.479
and the things they do. They're the they're not citizens.

3314
02:37:02.520 --> 02:37:03.760
It's not the right way to say it, but like

3315
02:37:03.799 --> 02:37:07.680
they're subjects essentially, and so I mean I think that's like,

3316
02:37:08.959 --> 02:37:10.680
it's not that I don't think it's sincere. I do

3317
02:37:10.719 --> 02:37:14.559
think Hamas legitimately hates Jews. I think that they've indoctrinated it.

3318
02:37:14.600 --> 02:37:16.479
And it's like you've got, like I said, when you

3319
02:37:16.520 --> 02:37:20.600
start doing that with kids at you know, from the

3320
02:37:20.680 --> 02:37:23.520
youngest age, you're brainwashing them into thinking a group of

3321
02:37:23.559 --> 02:37:26.479
people are evil based on their religion or where they

3322
02:37:26.520 --> 02:37:29.200
live or whatever the situation is. And we're doing that

3323
02:37:29.239 --> 02:37:32.120
in America with the indoctrination, the left indoctrination and stuff

3324
02:37:32.120 --> 02:37:34.000
that you talked about. It's like you're telling kids from

3325
02:37:34.000 --> 02:37:36.000
a very early age that America is a bad place.

3326
02:37:36.159 --> 02:37:38.200
There's nothing to be proud of. If you're white, you

3327
02:37:38.239 --> 02:37:40.600
are guilty of like you're like they were literally teachers

3328
02:37:40.639 --> 02:37:43.120
during the whole blacks like matter of stuff that we're like, well,

3329
02:37:43.440 --> 02:37:45.520
what about me, I'm mixed raced. Well you're an oppressor.

3330
02:37:45.559 --> 02:37:48.159
If you've got any white in you, you're the bad guy. Well, like,

3331
02:37:49.280 --> 02:37:50.879
what does that do to a kid when you tell

3332
02:37:50.879 --> 02:37:52.520
them they're a bad person because of the color of

3333
02:37:52.559 --> 02:37:55.520
their skin. Again, it's just like like that is that

3334
02:37:55.559 --> 02:37:57.559
has happened throughout human history.

3335
02:37:57.479 --> 02:38:02.200
But peop will continue. The Jews is is like you said,

3336
02:38:02.520 --> 02:38:05.440
everyone says they control America and and they're the real

3337
02:38:05.520 --> 02:38:08.520
reason why all of these conflicts are having around the world.

3338
02:38:08.520 --> 02:38:10.920
But think about it. Are the Are the Jews or

3339
02:38:11.000 --> 02:38:15.479
Israel behind the enslavement of Congolese and the Congo because

3340
02:38:15.479 --> 02:38:18.120
of the cobalt mines right now? Are they responsible for

3341
02:38:18.159 --> 02:38:20.920
what's going on as Somalia like you mentioned earlier. Are

3342
02:38:20.920 --> 02:38:23.719
they responsible for what's happening between Pakistan and India which

3343
02:38:23.760 --> 02:38:25.479
has been going on for years.

3344
02:38:26.079 --> 02:38:28.959
I've had some conversations about this with people where I'm like, I'm.

3345
02:38:28.799 --> 02:38:30.959
Gabo, what's going on in the Paul is that the Jews.

3346
02:38:30.680 --> 02:38:36.239
Fault, right, But like, the thing is what I often

3347
02:38:36.280 --> 02:38:38.879
get people to admit, especially if they're like very conspiratorial,

3348
02:38:38.920 --> 02:38:40.399
and it's not that I think that there's no such

3349
02:38:40.399 --> 02:38:44.079
thing as they're fun and like I'm like all about

3350
02:38:44.120 --> 02:38:46.879
like look into it. But like once you buy into

3351
02:38:47.000 --> 02:38:50.799
any conspiracy theory that says nefarious thing happened and it

3352
02:38:50.840 --> 02:38:53.959
didn't happen the way we thought it happened, that there

3353
02:38:54.000 --> 02:38:56.159
were a group of people that planned that thing to happen.

3354
02:38:56.239 --> 02:38:59.639
So Oakham City bombing, nine to eleven, right, Iraq war,

3355
02:39:00.040 --> 02:39:05.399
pick it, Pick any October seventh, like, pick anything, Charlie

3356
02:39:05.440 --> 02:39:08.920
Kirk's assassination, Donald Trump's near assassination, anything where someone goes,

3357
02:39:09.280 --> 02:39:11.239
this is not true. What really happened is there's a

3358
02:39:11.239 --> 02:39:15.639
group of people that did this. So I start talking

3359
02:39:15.680 --> 02:39:17.319
to these people, and what happens every time, And this

3360
02:39:17.360 --> 02:39:19.440
is why I think it's really dangerous in America right now.

3361
02:39:19.479 --> 02:39:22.159
But I think this happens everywhere. It's just that and

3362
02:39:22.200 --> 02:39:25.520
the Jews have been the most popular end game of

3363
02:39:25.559 --> 02:39:27.639
this because what happens is I had like a three

3364
02:39:27.639 --> 02:39:29.239
hour conversation with the guy about nine to eleven on

3365
02:39:29.319 --> 02:39:30.680
nine to eleven because it was it was fun. We

3366
02:39:30.719 --> 02:39:33.399
went back and forth and stuff, and I'm generally interested.

3367
02:39:33.440 --> 02:39:35.120
I'm like, I want to see why you think that

3368
02:39:35.200 --> 02:39:37.799
this was an inside job. Tell give me the evidence.

3369
02:39:38.000 --> 02:39:40.239
I'll rebut it with my evidence and stuff. And it

3370
02:39:40.280 --> 02:39:42.799
was a great conversation. But in that conversation, what I

3371
02:39:42.879 --> 02:39:44.639
kept going to is like, Okay, let's just say you're right,

3372
02:39:45.120 --> 02:39:46.360
how many people do you think it would take to

3373
02:39:46.399 --> 02:39:46.959
pull that off?

3374
02:39:47.520 --> 02:39:48.000
Thousands?

3375
02:39:48.079 --> 02:39:50.680
Right? Okay, so thousands of people kept a secret. Let's

3376
02:39:50.719 --> 02:39:52.920
say that that's possible. I don't think it is. I

3377
02:39:52.920 --> 02:39:54.760
think the government's very bad at everything they do. I

3378
02:39:54.760 --> 02:39:57.120
find it very hard on the government could do that,

3379
02:39:57.319 --> 02:40:00.520
right moon Landing. You think four hundred thousand people kept

3380
02:40:00.559 --> 02:40:02.520
that a secret and Russia never wanted to find out

3381
02:40:02.520 --> 02:40:04.159
and all these kind of things. Okay, So then I go, okay,

3382
02:40:04.200 --> 02:40:06.840
so let's say that happened. Same thing with let's say

3383
02:40:07.159 --> 02:40:09.360
the Jews killed Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, that

3384
02:40:09.440 --> 02:40:11.879
was the most disgusting part about his memorial service is

3385
02:40:11.920 --> 02:40:14.200
Tucker Carlson getting up there and blaming Jews for it

3386
02:40:14.280 --> 02:40:18.399
in a wink wink, nudge nudge. Yeah. They The fact

3387
02:40:18.399 --> 02:40:20.280
that they allowed him on stage is proof that it

3388
02:40:20.280 --> 02:40:22.680
wasn't about Charlie Kirk because like he's been the one

3389
02:40:22.719 --> 02:40:26.239
spouting these conspiracy theories that Eric his wife is it

3390
02:40:26.280 --> 02:40:27.639
makes me furious anyway, The point.

3391
02:40:27.479 --> 02:40:29.200
Is all between him and canisans man.

3392
02:40:29.200 --> 02:40:30.920
I mean, right, so when you get on that role,

3393
02:40:31.200 --> 02:40:33.559
if I say, okay, so that's true. Do those people

3394
02:40:33.600 --> 02:40:35.000
control everything in our government?

3395
02:40:35.120 --> 02:40:35.360
Yes?

3396
02:40:35.479 --> 02:40:37.840
Okay, why is our government so bad at everything? The

3397
02:40:37.879 --> 02:40:39.959
next place you go is, well, that's on purpose. They're

3398
02:40:39.959 --> 02:40:42.239
the shadow government. They're really good at stuff, but they

3399
02:40:42.399 --> 02:40:44.920
put people in apt their in appt they can't do stuff,

3400
02:40:44.920 --> 02:40:46.959
so they can control them like puppets. Okay, let's say

3401
02:40:46.959 --> 02:40:50.280
that's the case. So do you think those people also

3402
02:40:50.280 --> 02:40:52.600
control Russia? Because wouldn't it be in Russia and China's

3403
02:40:52.639 --> 02:40:55.680
interest to discover that George Bush did nine to eleven

3404
02:40:55.840 --> 02:40:58.399
and then they would, like you know, they would send

3405
02:40:58.479 --> 02:41:01.200
that everywhere, right, because that would be and then so

3406
02:41:01.319 --> 02:41:03.840
then the next place someone goes is well, no, they

3407
02:41:03.879 --> 02:41:07.000
probably to some degree. They control every country in the world.

3408
02:41:07.799 --> 02:41:09.840
Once you get to that point, there's no one you

3409
02:41:09.840 --> 02:41:12.600
can say that does that other than the Jews. I've

3410
02:41:12.639 --> 02:41:15.079
never heard it explained as anyone else other than Jews.

3411
02:41:15.399 --> 02:41:17.840
And like I said, all like you pull on any

3412
02:41:17.879 --> 02:41:20.639
one of those threads that the world is flat, that

3413
02:41:21.040 --> 02:41:23.639
nine to eleven was an inside job that Oklahoma City,

3414
02:41:23.959 --> 02:41:25.719
And I said, I think all of these things. Sometimes

3415
02:41:25.719 --> 02:41:28.440
we get a story that's not the entire story. Normally

3416
02:41:28.479 --> 02:41:31.399
it's because governments are embarrassed about their failures. So I

3417
02:41:31.440 --> 02:41:33.840
think that some of the Saudi stuff in nine to

3418
02:41:33.840 --> 02:41:37.479
eleven is more better explained by probably having a conversation

3419
02:41:37.520 --> 02:41:38.920
with them that goes like, we don't have an interest

3420
02:41:38.920 --> 02:41:40.639
in going to war with you guys, but if you

3421
02:41:41.280 --> 02:41:44.440
if you are even remotely involved in something similar to

3422
02:41:44.440 --> 02:41:46.319
this again, we will absolutely blow you off the face

3423
02:41:46.319 --> 02:41:49.000
of the earth. I think that probably happened Oka City bombing.

3424
02:41:49.040 --> 02:41:50.600
We got too focused on one person. We didn't like

3425
02:41:50.600 --> 02:41:52.159
to look at some of these other things. We didn't

3426
02:41:52.159 --> 02:41:54.799
like to really talk about the white nationalist stuff that

3427
02:41:54.879 --> 02:41:57.559
was going on that influenced him. We just said, like,

3428
02:41:57.639 --> 02:41:59.760
we've got our guy, we've got the conviction. We don't

3429
02:41:59.760 --> 02:42:01.879
want to bring in any sort of extra things. That

3430
02:42:01.920 --> 02:42:05.079
are gonna maybe make prosecution hard. Law enforcement gets tunnel vision.

3431
02:42:05.159 --> 02:42:07.319
There's mistakes that happen in all of these things. I'm

3432
02:42:07.319 --> 02:42:09.920
not saying that, like the government is never lying to us.

3433
02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:12.079
Government lies to us all the time, which is why

3434
02:42:12.079 --> 02:42:14.719
I don't trust them. But anytime you start saying there's

3435
02:42:14.719 --> 02:42:17.040
an nefarious group of people that control it, it always

3436
02:42:17.120 --> 02:42:19.159
ends up being Jews. And then you star have to

3437
02:42:19.200 --> 02:42:21.879
start going, Okay, so two point three percent of the

3438
02:42:21.920 --> 02:42:26.159
country is Jewish and you think they control everything. You

3439
02:42:26.159 --> 02:42:30.680
think they're tricking us into supporting Israel. You think they're

3440
02:42:30.680 --> 02:42:33.040
tricking us into supporting Ukraine if you're on that side,

3441
02:42:33.120 --> 02:42:35.559
or you think they're into Russia if you're on the

3442
02:42:35.559 --> 02:42:38.440
other side. Like I said, Hitler blamed Jews for both

3443
02:42:38.479 --> 02:42:40.040
communism and capitalism.

3444
02:42:40.319 --> 02:42:43.280
And it's like even convenient escape though, just even bringing

3445
02:42:43.280 --> 02:42:45.719
back to the Middle East, you're talking about like a

3446
02:42:45.760 --> 02:42:48.479
dot on the map compared to I mean, how many

3447
02:42:48.559 --> 02:42:55.159
Muslim countries? Was it sixty or seventy something? Is that correct? Oh?

3448
02:42:55.159 --> 02:42:56.120
How many there are total?

3449
02:42:56.360 --> 02:42:56.719
Yeah?

3450
02:42:56.840 --> 02:42:57.799
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

3451
02:42:57.879 --> 02:43:01.399
I think it was somewhere in that number serials. And

3452
02:43:01.440 --> 02:43:04.079
you got Israel, right, and they're the problem.

3453
02:43:04.639 --> 02:43:07.120
And by the way, it's not just about Jew versus Arab,

3454
02:43:07.239 --> 02:43:10.639
it's also like democracy versus oh, I get it. There's

3455
02:43:10.680 --> 02:43:12.639
all sorts of other things there, and there's.

3456
02:43:12.319 --> 02:43:15.719
Using it as an example of like how how how

3457
02:43:15.840 --> 02:43:17.879
was this small dot like the ire of the world

3458
02:43:18.000 --> 02:43:18.879
like there, and they've.

3459
02:43:18.639 --> 02:43:21.600
Got and they've goateed everyone into attacking them first so

3460
02:43:21.639 --> 02:43:24.360
that they can fight back and win territory. Why would

3461
02:43:24.360 --> 02:43:25.959
they not just attack people if they're just an the

3462
02:43:25.959 --> 02:43:26.559
farious group.

3463
02:43:26.760 --> 02:43:29.520
I've I've only had some issues with Israel to the

3464
02:43:29.600 --> 02:43:32.520
point that there are times where I think that they're

3465
02:43:32.559 --> 02:43:35.360
using the US as an excuse to do certain things,

3466
02:43:35.680 --> 02:43:38.079
in my opinion, because you know, we're always backing them,

3467
02:43:38.079 --> 02:43:41.000
and we are we are like right, they're standing behind them,

3468
02:43:41.200 --> 02:43:43.440
you know. And one of the examples I've used was

3469
02:43:43.440 --> 02:43:49.479
what they did with Qatar right recently. They would have

3470
02:43:49.559 --> 02:43:52.479
never done that if if because they put the US

3471
02:43:52.559 --> 02:43:53.879
in the middle. And this is where this is my

3472
02:43:53.959 --> 02:43:58.040
only this is my criticism of Israel, not Jews, but Israel, and.

3473
02:43:57.920 --> 02:44:00.120
It's and it's totally fair. You can Abs.

3474
02:44:00.760 --> 02:44:02.920
Qatar is supposed to be one of our allies and

3475
02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:05.639
they've been named one of our greatest allies that is

3476
02:44:05.680 --> 02:44:07.719
not a NATO nation, not not like Israel.

3477
02:44:08.079 --> 02:44:10.239
But they're playing both sides all the time. But we

3478
02:44:10.319 --> 02:44:12.000
know that and it's part of it.

3479
02:44:12.159 --> 02:44:15.799
The reality is they also host our largest military base

3480
02:44:15.840 --> 02:44:19.159
in the Middle East. It is sent calm Israel does

3481
02:44:19.200 --> 02:44:22.760
this piss is Qatar off guitar calls on the US

3482
02:44:22.879 --> 02:44:24.959
or Donald Trump to reign in Israel see the situation.

3483
02:44:25.120 --> 02:44:28.000
It's like, I get it. I get what Israel is doing,

3484
02:44:28.040 --> 02:44:30.920
but like, did you did you think about, like what

3485
02:44:31.000 --> 02:44:32.399
would happen if.

3486
02:44:32.360 --> 02:44:35.280
Here's but here's what bothers. Well, it's kind of it's

3487
02:44:35.280 --> 02:44:37.879
a double edged stort. I'm going I totally get what

3488
02:44:37.879 --> 02:44:41.959
you're saying. Like they're they're like, because we've got their back,

3489
02:44:42.000 --> 02:44:47.360
they're willing to do things that maybe they wouldn't otherwise. However, again,

3490
02:44:47.399 --> 02:44:50.639
this is double edged sword. I think Donald Trump in

3491
02:44:50.719 --> 02:44:54.879
Republicans in America has I think we've changed the course

3492
02:44:55.040 --> 02:44:59.719
of the world for a very long time. You go

3493
02:44:59.719 --> 02:45:02.000
back to World War Two and you basically said America

3494
02:45:02.040 --> 02:45:05.559
was that country for eighty years. What we said went

3495
02:45:05.760 --> 02:45:07.920
and we were maybe kind of bullies about it sometime,

3496
02:45:08.159 --> 02:45:10.360
but like when we when someone was our ally, we

3497
02:45:10.399 --> 02:45:13.079
defended them and when they were our enemy. And so

3498
02:45:13.239 --> 02:45:16.200
like the point was people needed to be scared of

3499
02:45:16.680 --> 02:45:20.600
America in not in a they didn't want to mess

3500
02:45:20.600 --> 02:45:22.319
with us. Does that make sense? Like if we said

3501
02:45:22.440 --> 02:45:25.760
we had someone's back, we generally proved that we had

3502
02:45:25.799 --> 02:45:26.360
people's back.

3503
02:45:26.440 --> 02:45:27.319
So the Golf War is a.

3504
02:45:27.280 --> 02:45:29.559
Great example of that of saying like, no, we're not

3505
02:45:29.600 --> 02:45:32.680
going to stand for that, and then they did it. Yeah,

3506
02:45:32.719 --> 02:45:36.440
And and what I think we've squandered is now the

3507
02:45:36.479 --> 02:45:40.680
whole world knows that we don't have like the people

3508
02:45:40.719 --> 02:45:43.319
who we call our allies, we don't actually have their

3509
02:45:43.319 --> 02:45:45.559
back most of the time. And so what I think

3510
02:45:45.639 --> 02:45:48.760
really happened is I think Israel actually used to be

3511
02:45:49.079 --> 02:45:54.879
more like clearing everything with the US, and then Joe Biden.

3512
02:45:55.159 --> 02:45:57.079
I don't think it started just under Joe Biden, but

3513
02:45:57.120 --> 02:45:59.200
I just know that, like October seventh happens. And so

3514
02:45:59.440 --> 02:46:01.639
it's just it's a lot more in focus than it

3515
02:46:01.680 --> 02:46:05.200
has been for a while. You know, he is dragging

3516
02:46:05.200 --> 02:46:07.559
his feet on stuff, on a lot of things, and

3517
02:46:07.600 --> 02:46:10.200
he's saying, don't do anything, don't go into Rafa, don't

3518
02:46:10.239 --> 02:46:13.239
attack Hesbela, don't like and everything that he told them

3519
02:46:13.280 --> 02:46:15.760
not to do, they did anyway, because I think that

3520
02:46:15.799 --> 02:46:18.600
they saw that like it's our survival. It's not about

3521
02:46:18.639 --> 02:46:21.159
like what will make the US happy. It's like these

3522
02:46:21.159 --> 02:46:23.520
people are trying to eliminate us, and we're taught like

3523
02:46:23.559 --> 02:46:26.079
we can't. We're not doing that anymore. And so in

3524
02:46:26.120 --> 02:46:30.280
a way, it's almost like America's weakness allows Israel to

3525
02:46:30.360 --> 02:46:34.079
do whatever they want now because like we can't rain

3526
02:46:34.159 --> 02:46:36.600
them in. I mean, to some degree, maybe we can.

3527
02:46:36.879 --> 02:46:38.680
But I think the problem is like we told them

3528
02:46:38.760 --> 02:46:40.600
no on all that stuff, and if they would have

3529
02:46:40.680 --> 02:46:43.680
listened to us, Iran would not be in the position

3530
02:46:43.719 --> 02:46:46.280
they are Hesblah would not be almost eliminated. Hamas would

3531
02:46:46.319 --> 02:46:49.000
not be in the position like even the Houthis. I mean,

3532
02:46:49.040 --> 02:46:51.000
they've done a better job against the Huthies than we have,

3533
02:46:51.159 --> 02:46:54.680
and they were attacking our ships. So in some ways,

3534
02:46:54.719 --> 02:46:57.680
I think America went from being the people that were like, hey,

3535
02:46:58.000 --> 02:47:01.840
we've got these people's back. You don't met don't test it,

3536
02:47:02.000 --> 02:47:04.639
don't don't. But Obama says he puts a red line

3537
02:47:04.639 --> 02:47:07.879
with Syria and lets him cross it, And I think

3538
02:47:07.920 --> 02:47:12.040
slowly what Europe and everyone has realized is that America

3539
02:47:12.120 --> 02:47:16.280
doesn't really have its allies backs, which is why I

3540
02:47:16.319 --> 02:47:19.319
think Donald Trump just hopes it'll work out that they

3541
02:47:19.319 --> 02:47:22.520
don't turn to other people. But they're like smaller countries

3542
02:47:22.559 --> 02:47:24.920
have like they're gonna get pushed around by bigger countries

3543
02:47:24.920 --> 02:47:27.840
and they're gonna have to capitulate to someone that's gonna

3544
02:47:27.879 --> 02:47:31.360
be Rusher or China now and if they and in

3545
02:47:31.440 --> 02:47:33.680
Europe doesn't trust us. By the way, speaking of JD Vance,

3546
02:47:33.840 --> 02:47:36.680
is the next nominee, Like that Signal Chat proved more

3547
02:47:36.719 --> 02:47:38.920
than anything that like that is the real JD. Vance.

3548
02:47:38.959 --> 02:47:41.680
He actually hates Europe and doesn't want to do anything

3549
02:47:41.719 --> 02:47:44.319
that could help them. That was a situation. Remember the

3550
02:47:44.319 --> 02:47:46.840
whole signal Gate thing was about like he was just

3551
02:47:46.879 --> 02:47:48.520
pissed that, like, oh, I just hate that we're bailing

3552
02:47:48.559 --> 02:47:52.280
out Europe again. Once you know that that's true and

3553
02:47:52.319 --> 02:47:55.520
that that is like a fact of the Republican Party,

3554
02:47:55.959 --> 02:47:57.799
you are going to go, We've got a find for ourselves.

3555
02:47:57.840 --> 02:48:00.280
And I think that what happens now is that really

3556
02:48:00.360 --> 02:48:03.040
Israel has decided we are actually the only people that

3557
02:48:03.079 --> 02:48:04.239
have our interest at heart.

3558
02:48:04.760 --> 02:48:09.200
America doesn't I get you, I get you what I'm

3559
02:48:09.520 --> 02:48:12.639
what I what I'm thinking is this, look Israel. I

3560
02:48:12.639 --> 02:48:14.479
think Israel's a right to do whatever the hell they want,

3561
02:48:15.399 --> 02:48:18.600
but that that certain situation is like when you're jeopardizing

3562
02:48:19.000 --> 02:48:23.840
the largest military base in the area that the US

3563
02:48:23.680 --> 02:48:26.319
that's ours, and then we're at the same time here

3564
02:48:26.360 --> 02:48:31.120
to support you, kind of jeopardizes that right. And so

3565
02:48:31.399 --> 02:48:34.319
I'm not saying in any other case like Israel couldn't

3566
02:48:34.319 --> 02:48:37.719
do whatever they wanted, because we would noone tells us no.

3567
02:48:38.120 --> 02:48:40.159
But now let's go to Europe. Though, what you're saying

3568
02:48:40.200 --> 02:48:43.280
about what jade Van said, yes, wrong, should that should

3569
02:48:43.319 --> 02:48:47.079
not have been made public. But a lot of that

3570
02:48:47.479 --> 02:48:50.799
was driven by the sentiment that, hey, the US is

3571
02:48:50.879 --> 02:48:53.399
paying into NATO and doing all of this, and we're

3572
02:48:53.399 --> 02:48:56.559
getting called to help you out with the Russia Ukraine situations,

3573
02:48:56.559 --> 02:48:58.760
Like at what point are you guys not going to

3574
02:48:58.840 --> 02:49:00.760
stand up and do something?

3575
02:49:00.879 --> 02:49:03.680
Yeah, we have essentially subsidized their welfare state.

3576
02:49:03.799 --> 02:49:05.879
I think that's what I'm not saying is right, by

3577
02:49:05.879 --> 02:49:07.280
the way, but I have that is true where a

3578
02:49:07.280 --> 02:49:09.520
lot that came from that is true. Seventy five percent

3579
02:49:09.680 --> 02:49:12.000
NATO was always paid by the United States of America.

3580
02:49:12.040 --> 02:49:15.200
I don't know if it but yeah, well but here's

3581
02:49:15.200 --> 02:49:15.799
the here's the word.

3582
02:49:15.840 --> 02:49:20.000
The problem is the Russia. The Russian.

3583
02:49:20.079 --> 02:49:22.200
First of all, we're the only country that NATO's ever

3584
02:49:22.719 --> 02:49:25.280
the Article five thing of defending a NATO nation. The

3585
02:49:25.280 --> 02:49:28.040
only country that's ever called for that is US. Yeah,

3586
02:49:28.079 --> 02:49:31.200
for nine, we're the only ones. So we've never had

3587
02:49:31.200 --> 02:49:33.920
to bail out any of those countries. Actually, now, we

3588
02:49:33.920 --> 02:49:38.040
were actually hitting the budgetary what we all agreed we

3589
02:49:38.040 --> 02:49:40.840
were going to do whatever it was two point five percent.

3590
02:49:41.120 --> 02:49:44.120
I mean it's changed two point five yeah. Uh.

3591
02:49:44.120 --> 02:49:45.559
There are a bunch of countries that said, we don't

3592
02:49:45.600 --> 02:49:47.639
have to do that. We'd rather spend that on everyone

3593
02:49:47.639 --> 02:49:50.079
having healthcare, and the US will just let us get

3594
02:49:50.079 --> 02:49:52.680
away with that for forever. Donald Trump came and said no.

3595
02:49:52.879 --> 02:49:54.760
And first of all, some of that started changing by

3596
02:49:54.840 --> 02:49:57.680
him just making the threats of like we're not gonna

3597
02:49:57.719 --> 02:50:00.319
have your back now. I don't love his style, but

3598
02:50:00.559 --> 02:50:03.159
some of it worked, you know. But what really worked

3599
02:50:03.159 --> 02:50:06.680
was Russia invading Ukraine. Like you know, Poland's doing like

3600
02:50:06.760 --> 02:50:09.680
seven percent now because you know they're not like this

3601
02:50:09.719 --> 02:50:11.120
is not a drill anymore.

3602
02:50:11.280 --> 02:50:15.399
They're going like around on there, I'll tell you at all.

3603
02:50:15.280 --> 02:50:17.840
And and and so what it took was of the

3604
02:50:17.879 --> 02:50:23.600
real world events of Russia invading another European country to realize,

3605
02:50:23.719 --> 02:50:27.120
oh yeah, we've seen this before, we know where this goes,

3606
02:50:27.239 --> 02:50:31.239
and and and everyone not stop and everyone stepped it up.

3607
02:50:31.280 --> 02:50:33.280
So as far as I know, there is no European

3608
02:50:33.280 --> 02:50:36.520
country that's not going well beyond two point five percent.

3609
02:50:36.879 --> 02:50:40.440
But Germany is now talking about doing but stuff.

3610
02:50:40.559 --> 02:50:42.719
Right like that, Maybe now that wasn't the case before,

3611
02:50:42.920 --> 02:50:45.040
right right that that that was the thing. And I

3612
02:50:45.079 --> 02:50:48.600
think that's what led to why Jdvance said, I'm not

3613
02:50:48.639 --> 02:50:51.600
I'm not excusing you, you know, right, but look here

3614
02:50:51.639 --> 02:50:54.799
the vice president of the United States. But at the

3615
02:50:54.840 --> 02:50:58.280
same time, everybody in America felt that way.

3616
02:50:58.600 --> 02:51:01.520
But why not take the advantage of the win of saying, like,

3617
02:51:01.680 --> 02:51:04.879
thank you all for getting on board. It sucks that

3618
02:51:04.920 --> 02:51:06.520
I've been telling you this for years and it took

3619
02:51:06.600 --> 02:51:11.000
Russia invading a neighboring you know what I mean, That's

3620
02:51:11.000 --> 02:51:13.479
what I'm saying, Like that was said, yeah, but I

3621
02:51:13.520 --> 02:51:16.479
mean I think it needed to be more like like,

3622
02:51:16.559 --> 02:51:18.920
I'm all for the carrot and stick stuff. I'm all

3623
02:51:18.920 --> 02:51:22.719
for saying, like I said, throwing our weight around, Like

3624
02:51:22.799 --> 02:51:25.959
I think the world is a better place when America

3625
02:51:26.000 --> 02:51:27.680
throws it to weight around for the right things, for

3626
02:51:27.760 --> 02:51:31.879
democracies and for the things we believe in. Uh because

3627
02:51:31.920 --> 02:51:34.479
I think for the most part, historically they've been the

3628
02:51:34.559 --> 02:51:36.200
right things. I think free speech is the right thing.

3629
02:51:36.239 --> 02:51:38.520
I think jd Vance was correct to go over there

3630
02:51:38.520 --> 02:51:41.159
and call out all the European countries for their like

3631
02:51:41.799 --> 02:51:45.360
incredibly illiberal views on speech. Now, I think I have

3632
02:51:45.479 --> 02:51:47.520
no problem with that, But I also think you could

3633
02:51:47.520 --> 02:51:49.920
be like I would have done that speech differently. What

3634
02:51:49.920 --> 02:51:51.440
I would have said is like, we've been harping on

3635
02:51:51.479 --> 02:51:54.040
you guys for years to spend the appropriate military budgets

3636
02:51:54.040 --> 02:51:56.079
that you agreed to so that we'd have your back,

3637
02:51:56.120 --> 02:51:57.719
and we appreciate that you had our back. After nine

3638
02:51:57.719 --> 02:52:00.440
to eleven, it took Russia invading Ukraine for you to

3639
02:52:00.479 --> 02:52:02.159
realize that you need to get your act togethers and

3640
02:52:02.200 --> 02:52:04.319
thank you for doing that. Now i'd like you to

3641
02:52:04.360 --> 02:52:06.120
do that with free speech too, Like, I don't think

3642
02:52:06.120 --> 02:52:08.319
you realize how dangerous this road is you're going down.

3643
02:52:08.360 --> 02:52:10.159
But the truth is Jade Vance doesn't actually care about

3644
02:52:10.159 --> 02:52:12.520
free speech. He makes that speech, but then he's not

3645
02:52:12.520 --> 02:52:17.120
saying anything about the Trump administration trying to stop speech,

3646
02:52:17.159 --> 02:52:20.120
and so it just feels insincere to me. I think

3647
02:52:20.120 --> 02:52:22.520
America's best when we're throwing our weight around, but in

3648
02:52:22.559 --> 02:52:25.920
a way that says, this is better for everyone if

3649
02:52:25.920 --> 02:52:30.360
we all the reason NATO went eighty years without I

3650
02:52:30.399 --> 02:52:32.399
mean until nine to eleven, which wasn't even attack from

3651
02:52:32.399 --> 02:52:35.799
another country. It's a terrorist organization, you know, It's something

3652
02:52:35.840 --> 02:52:39.840
we couldn't have dreamed up in nineteen forty five. But like,

3653
02:52:39.879 --> 02:52:42.959
when that happens, we're the ones that get go, hey,

3654
02:52:43.079 --> 02:52:46.159
come come join U, join us, and like, but also

3655
02:52:47.079 --> 02:52:48.760
I don't believe for a second we wouldn't have had

3656
02:52:48.799 --> 02:52:50.680
any of those people's backs if it would have happened too,

3657
02:52:50.680 --> 02:52:52.520
which is why I think we prevented a World War

3658
02:52:52.559 --> 02:52:53.319
three from happening.

3659
02:52:53.440 --> 02:52:55.399
I think in the end, I think, in the end,

3660
02:52:55.399 --> 02:53:01.079
if this situation with Russia really pops off, I think

3661
02:53:01.120 --> 02:53:03.520
we will have their back, you know, I know, I

3662
02:53:03.559 --> 02:53:05.440
know I think we will too. Yeah, and I think

3663
02:53:05.520 --> 02:53:08.000
right now there's a lot of doubt, but when push

3664
02:53:08.040 --> 02:53:09.680
comes to shove, you know we're going to get in there.

3665
02:53:10.319 --> 02:53:13.120
The whole thing with that Rush Ukraine situation, and there's

3666
02:53:13.159 --> 02:53:14.239
a lot I don't know, if we have a lot

3667
02:53:14.239 --> 02:53:15.959
of time to go into it. But the reality is

3668
02:53:15.959 --> 02:53:21.000
this is World War III was the threat. They did

3669
02:53:21.079 --> 02:53:23.040
not want to go to war with a very capable

3670
02:53:23.120 --> 02:53:27.120
nuclear nation period. Now they're they're they're getting they're getting

3671
02:53:27.120 --> 02:53:30.040
ground down slowly over time because of the resilience of

3672
02:53:30.040 --> 02:53:34.600
the Ukraine Ukrainian army or military and and even though.

3673
02:53:34.440 --> 02:53:37.000
It's saw coming exactly. I mean, everyone thought that thing

3674
02:53:37.000 --> 02:53:39.479
would be over in two weeks, and and I think

3675
02:53:39.760 --> 02:53:41.879
Putin thought it would be over in two weeks. I

3676
02:53:43.159 --> 02:53:45.719
obviously did not go according to plan.

3677
02:53:45.760 --> 02:53:48.280
But all because of the threat of a nuclear war

3678
02:53:48.280 --> 02:53:51.399
is why nobody got involved. And but but everybody was

3679
02:53:51.440 --> 02:53:54.159
crying for us, let's just be quite honest about to

3680
02:53:54.200 --> 02:53:56.159
go over there and handle the situation. It's like, wait

3681
02:53:56.159 --> 02:53:59.799
a minute, this is in your backyard, United Kingdom in France.

3682
02:53:59.600 --> 02:54:01.159
Which is why they did step up. I mean, that's

3683
02:54:01.159 --> 02:54:04.559
why like mess around it. They should have stopped it

3684
02:54:04.959 --> 02:54:09.719
from the get go. Yeah, I don't know. I think

3685
02:54:09.760 --> 02:54:10.959
you have to go back to like two thousand and

3686
02:54:11.040 --> 02:54:14.440
eight to really stop this invasion of Ukraine from having

3687
02:54:14.520 --> 02:54:16.760
Like I said, I think I think this was a

3688
02:54:16.760 --> 02:54:20.920
failure under Bush Obama and Biden it actually did not

3689
02:54:20.959 --> 02:54:23.959
happen under Trump the first time. Like Trump, that's fair,

3690
02:54:24.280 --> 02:54:26.360
like he gets to claim and I'm the only president

3691
02:54:26.399 --> 02:54:29.000
in the last twenty years that Russia hasn't invaded your

3692
02:54:29.000 --> 02:54:34.639
career to some degree. And again, now this is more

3693
02:54:34.639 --> 02:54:38.840
complicated because obviously you're talking about two nuclear powers. But

3694
02:54:38.559 --> 02:54:42.079
what has bothered me about our positioning in foreign affairs

3695
02:54:42.120 --> 02:54:46.319
has been everything has been about worrying of escalation. And

3696
02:54:46.399 --> 02:54:51.159
so even with Iran, like everything everything that Joe Biden

3697
02:54:51.239 --> 02:54:56.040
did with regard to the Israel and Hamas stuff is

3698
02:54:56.280 --> 02:54:59.200
was like, We're worried about poking Iran, and I'm like,

3699
02:54:59.600 --> 02:55:02.639
Ira should be scared of poking us, like it should.

3700
02:55:02.799 --> 02:55:05.479
Now Russia is different. They've got nuclear weapons and Putin's crazy.

3701
02:55:05.520 --> 02:55:09.680
Probably again though they should be as scared of our

3702
02:55:09.799 --> 02:55:13.799
nuclear deterrent as we are of Theirs, and they should

3703
02:55:13.879 --> 02:55:15.719
be scared of NATO. But the truth, I mean, like,

3704
02:55:15.719 --> 02:55:18.879
like you know who loves NATO, like not having each

3705
02:55:18.879 --> 02:55:22.680
other's backs. China and Russia like they're super happy about it. Well,

3706
02:55:22.719 --> 02:55:25.440
so they know it's a legitimate force that could stop.

3707
02:55:25.399 --> 02:55:28.760
Let's let's talk about that dynamic though, because you brought

3708
02:55:28.840 --> 02:55:33.440
up Iran. Russia isn't just that they're the nuclear power.

3709
02:55:33.520 --> 02:55:35.840
You got to you gotta look at Russia. And I

3710
02:55:35.879 --> 02:55:39.200
don't know how much they'll back them. But allegedly China

3711
02:55:39.280 --> 02:55:44.600
is an ally ally now North Korea is an ally right.

3712
02:55:44.959 --> 02:55:48.280
North Korea actually sent troops and at some point China

3713
02:55:48.319 --> 02:55:50.239
did say that they had Russia's back, and then they

3714
02:55:50.280 --> 02:55:54.760
renigged on it. Right, Iran has a relationship with Russia

3715
02:55:54.799 --> 02:55:58.520
as well. Now, the thing that is not in Iran's

3716
02:55:58.520 --> 02:56:00.879
favorite is that Russia will ever be able to back

3717
02:56:00.920 --> 02:56:03.959
them because they cannot fight on two different fronts. They

3718
02:56:04.040 --> 02:56:06.239
just can't. Right now, they're not in that position.

3719
02:56:06.879 --> 02:56:08.520
But it turns out they weren't as good at fighting

3720
02:56:08.520 --> 02:56:09.600
on one fronts.

3721
02:56:09.239 --> 02:56:13.239
No, I mean Afghanistan, right, and then they got pushed

3722
02:56:13.239 --> 02:56:15.399
back by by the rebels that were trained by well

3723
02:56:15.479 --> 02:56:19.239
our people. But the the thing with Iran is is

3724
02:56:19.680 --> 02:56:23.120
they support Russia. Russia or the Soviet Union supports Iran,

3725
02:56:23.239 --> 02:56:27.040
and that that goes way back that history. So a

3726
02:56:27.079 --> 02:56:29.879
lot of people don't even realize that these these relationships

3727
02:56:29.920 --> 02:56:32.000
were already in place. So I think with Iran that

3728
02:56:32.159 --> 02:56:34.159
is one thing to think about, right. There is if

3729
02:56:34.639 --> 02:56:37.959
will Russia actually step up and side with Iran to

3730
02:56:38.079 --> 02:56:41.040
help fight if it came down to it, I don't

3731
02:56:41.040 --> 02:56:41.360
think so.

3732
02:56:42.319 --> 02:56:44.479
I don't think any of them would. North Korea is

3733
02:56:44.520 --> 02:56:45.440
the exception to that.

3734
02:56:45.879 --> 02:56:48.120
I think he's just ready to do. I don't know

3735
02:56:48.200 --> 02:56:50.719
he's he's he's wanting to prove something, He's just waiting.

3736
02:56:51.719 --> 02:56:55.319
I think that the problem the card. Yeah, like obviously

3737
02:56:55.399 --> 02:56:58.479
Russia did not Putin would not have invaded if he

3738
02:56:58.479 --> 02:57:03.280
could have seen the future. Yeah, yeah, I think that

3739
02:57:03.719 --> 02:57:08.319
it first of all exposed to think no, and I don't,

3740
02:57:08.479 --> 02:57:12.559
and I don't think he knows. I think what's so

3741
02:57:12.559 --> 02:57:14.360
stupid about it is that like we're just not good

3742
02:57:14.440 --> 02:57:16.520
enough to take advantage of the fact that I think

3743
02:57:16.600 --> 02:57:18.840
Russia wants out of this, but they also have to

3744
02:57:18.840 --> 02:57:21.079
be able to save face. It's like they almost need,

3745
02:57:21.159 --> 02:57:24.319
like us to stop it in some sort of way

3746
02:57:24.360 --> 02:57:26.319
where they can just blame us for it and not

3747
02:57:26.360 --> 02:57:28.680
really have to take the loss.

3748
02:57:29.159 --> 02:57:31.239
I don't know how you think they also are. Putin

3749
02:57:31.319 --> 02:57:34.120
was relying on China to be more of an ally

3750
02:57:34.159 --> 02:57:37.120
on stepping up and really getting involved and then happen.

3751
02:57:37.440 --> 02:57:38.959
I think they thought it wouldn't have to happen, first

3752
02:57:39.000 --> 02:57:40.760
of all, But I also think that they do. Think

3753
02:57:40.920 --> 02:57:42.879
I mean, my favorite way to refer to them as

3754
02:57:43.120 --> 02:57:45.799
the Axis of assholes, because that's really what it is.

3755
02:57:46.120 --> 02:57:48.319
But it's not a real alliance. Like you just look

3756
02:57:48.319 --> 02:57:51.840
at China's trajectory and Russia and like what their stated

3757
02:57:51.920 --> 02:57:54.879
goals are, and they're in conflict with each other. Like

3758
02:57:55.040 --> 02:57:58.120
China wants to control the world, so does Russia.

3759
02:57:58.200 --> 02:58:01.680
They can't both, you know, no, no they can't, but

3760
02:58:02.319 --> 02:58:04.319
they do need each other for now.

3761
02:58:04.600 --> 02:58:06.799
Right now they do. Yeah, so it's a convenience thing,

3762
02:58:06.879 --> 02:58:09.520
and so that can change very quickly. Like I think

3763
02:58:09.559 --> 02:58:12.399
that I think China what they love about this, if

3764
02:58:12.440 --> 02:58:15.239
I had to guess, is that they they got to

3765
02:58:15.280 --> 02:58:17.879
see a preview of what would happen if they invaded Tauan.

3766
02:58:18.360 --> 02:58:21.719
You know, they get to see, like maybe maybe we're

3767
02:58:21.799 --> 02:58:27.000
overestimating our military capability, Maybe maybe NATO's not as weak

3768
02:58:27.040 --> 02:58:28.680
as we thought it was. Like I think they love

3769
02:58:28.760 --> 02:58:32.200
I think China benefits immensely from Russia being the so

3770
02:58:32.239 --> 02:58:33.760
of course they're encouraging them to do it, you know

3771
02:58:33.799 --> 02:58:35.879
what I mean. It's like if it doesn't go well,

3772
02:58:35.920 --> 02:58:37.200
it doesn't really affect us.

3773
02:58:37.280 --> 02:58:41.719
Like China's definitely collecting data. But the only problem with

3774
02:58:41.799 --> 02:58:46.239
that is they haven't found anything out yet because nobody

3775
02:58:46.319 --> 02:58:51.799
has directly got involved yet. Yeah, but I mean they.

3776
02:58:50.559 --> 02:58:53.520
Have found some I think they've learned some things. I

3777
02:58:53.520 --> 02:58:55.799
think they've learned. I think they've probably taken a look

3778
02:58:55.799 --> 02:58:57.760
at their Like first of all, there's a huge problem

3779
02:58:57.840 --> 02:59:02.479
in dictatorships where you're not real problems are not bubbling

3780
02:59:02.559 --> 02:59:05.959
up because if people are scared to be murdered, if

3781
02:59:06.000 --> 02:59:09.000
they cause a problem, like in Russia and China, right,

3782
02:59:09.120 --> 02:59:11.239
like it's not very likely that it's like a low

3783
02:59:11.360 --> 02:59:14.000
level like everyone is basically faking it and pretending like

3784
02:59:14.000 --> 02:59:16.360
that's why I like their tanks like literally just got

3785
02:59:16.399 --> 02:59:19.799
stuck in the mud. They no one had ever flagged that, well,

3786
02:59:19.840 --> 02:59:21.840
these things are not made to go into the mud.

3787
02:59:21.959 --> 02:59:25.680
And like instead of raising that flag up to say, hey,

3788
02:59:25.719 --> 02:59:28.079
actually there's a problem with this plan, mister putin that

3789
02:59:28.120 --> 02:59:31.159
you have because you're dead, you're getting thrown out of

3790
02:59:31.200 --> 02:59:33.760
a window. And like Russia does it in a way

3791
02:59:33.799 --> 02:59:37.600
that is very like everyone falls out of a window.

3792
02:59:37.680 --> 02:59:40.479
Like it's public. It's like they it's like they're bragging

3793
02:59:40.600 --> 02:59:43.600
about they're bragging about if you go not even just

3794
02:59:43.639 --> 02:59:46.280
go against us, you're just like you're not good at

3795
02:59:46.280 --> 02:59:47.840
what you do. We will throw you out of a

3796
02:59:47.840 --> 02:59:50.600
window and kill you, you know, And so that's like

3797
02:59:51.040 --> 02:59:53.520
that you're not going to have a very well functioning

3798
02:59:53.559 --> 02:59:56.399
government for the most part when that happens. No, And

3799
02:59:56.440 --> 02:59:58.520
I think China maybe is learning from some of that

3800
02:59:58.719 --> 03:00:04.159
of like that maybe we're overestimating some of our military capabilities.

3801
03:00:04.159 --> 03:00:09.000
Maybe we're underestimating Taiwan. Maybe we're like in Taiwan, like geographically,

3802
03:00:09.079 --> 03:00:11.959
is that actually even more complicated than Ukraine as far

3803
03:00:12.040 --> 03:00:14.559
as there's a lot of really natural there's some really

3804
03:00:14.639 --> 03:00:17.200
interesting articles about like why it would be so hard

3805
03:00:17.200 --> 03:00:20.360
for China to invade they'd see it coming. There's all

3806
03:00:20.440 --> 03:00:24.479
these there's all these situations where Taiwan. Like, I'm not

3807
03:00:24.479 --> 03:00:26.639
saying China's not planning ahead. I just think that both

3808
03:00:26.639 --> 03:00:31.239
of them have an outsized view of their capabilities, and

3809
03:00:31.239 --> 03:00:32.840
so I think China's learning from that. And I also

3810
03:00:32.840 --> 03:00:35.040
think China is happy to let Russia be the guinea pigs.

3811
03:00:35.040 --> 03:00:36.719
I think they can be allies, but they don't really

3812
03:00:36.799 --> 03:00:38.879
need Russia for anything. They are buying oil.

3813
03:00:38.959 --> 03:00:42.000
But I also think that China if they see anything

3814
03:00:42.040 --> 03:00:44.239
from this is that if they wanted to do anything,

3815
03:00:44.280 --> 03:00:47.040
they pretty much stand on their own, like who's your ally,

3816
03:00:47.559 --> 03:00:50.520
because even even if it's like a North Korea, it's

3817
03:00:50.719 --> 03:00:53.760
it's already been proven that their own troops turned till

3818
03:00:53.799 --> 03:00:55.559
and run once they've got to taste of freedom and

3819
03:00:55.600 --> 03:00:56.760
get in the outside world.

3820
03:00:57.079 --> 03:01:00.799
Yeah, because who's fighting something like who's fighting someone else's

3821
03:01:00.840 --> 03:01:03.079
war for territory at this point?

3822
03:01:03.319 --> 03:01:05.879
Like I mean, yeah, twenty twenty five, are are we

3823
03:01:05.959 --> 03:01:08.319
still doing this fight? Like that's so stupid to me.

3824
03:01:08.879 --> 03:01:13.879
Like even in World War Two, it wasn't like Japan

3825
03:01:13.959 --> 03:01:18.559
and Germany were really allies, you know what I mean.

3826
03:01:18.920 --> 03:01:21.440
It's not that they were there, just like two empires

3827
03:01:21.479 --> 03:01:23.920
that were trying to expand their empires at the same time.

3828
03:01:24.719 --> 03:01:28.280
It wasn't like like one of them was gonna win

3829
03:01:28.319 --> 03:01:30.239
out in that fight at some point. Now, I mean,

3830
03:01:30.280 --> 03:01:33.559
I think the most interesting Trump theory that I totally

3831
03:01:33.639 --> 03:01:35.239
buy and it makes all the sense in the world

3832
03:01:35.360 --> 03:01:36.799
is like and I'll try to find it in scient

3833
03:01:36.879 --> 03:01:39.120
to you. Basically, it's like explaining how growing up in

3834
03:01:39.200 --> 03:01:43.200
like New York sort of more mob controlled New York.

3835
03:01:43.239 --> 03:01:46.479
It's like he thinks of the world, the way of

3836
03:01:46.520 --> 03:01:48.840
like the way the mob works. It's like you have

3837
03:01:49.000 --> 03:01:52.280
your area and I have my area, and as long

3838
03:01:52.280 --> 03:01:54.520
as we don't piss on each other, right, you get

3839
03:01:54.559 --> 03:01:55.840
to do your thing. I get to do my thing,

3840
03:01:55.879 --> 03:01:58.280
and like we demand respect from the bottom up of

3841
03:01:58.319 --> 03:02:00.520
our thing. And that's why he's always villifying his friends

3842
03:02:00.840 --> 03:02:04.719
like he doesn't ever you know, it's like he talks more.

3843
03:02:04.799 --> 03:02:07.040
He talks more crap on all those European countries than

3844
03:02:07.079 --> 03:02:09.399
he does on Russia than he does on China. He's

3845
03:02:09.440 --> 03:02:13.120
done more, like he's done more actions with tariffs, like

3846
03:02:13.559 --> 03:02:15.719
China is the one country that we need to actually

3847
03:02:15.760 --> 03:02:19.600
do some trade changes with because they're taking unfair advantage

3848
03:02:19.639 --> 03:02:23.000
of us. But he's not going after China with tariffs.

3849
03:02:23.040 --> 03:02:27.079
He's going after like in he's going after Israel. Israel

3850
03:02:27.159 --> 03:02:30.799
has a higher tariff than or Brazil, or he's going

3851
03:02:30.840 --> 03:02:33.840
after like it's just whoever pisses him off, whoever's like

3852
03:02:34.360 --> 03:02:37.239
insufficiently loyal to him. But it's because he thinks he

3853
03:02:37.280 --> 03:02:40.159
gets to decide what happens in this hemisphere. Russia gets

3854
03:02:40.159 --> 03:02:42.680
to decide what happens in their area, China gets to

3855
03:02:42.719 --> 03:02:44.840
happen do what they do in their area, and I

3856
03:02:44.840 --> 03:02:48.000
think to some degree kind of feels not the exact

3857
03:02:48.040 --> 03:02:50.479
same way about Iran, because there's the Israel connection there

3858
03:02:50.479 --> 03:02:53.000
and so that's more complicated. But he doesn't have an

3859
03:02:53.040 --> 03:02:56.040
ally he likes better in Russia's region or China's region

3860
03:02:56.079 --> 03:02:58.559
of power, and so he's like, yeah, I like the

3861
03:02:58.559 --> 03:03:00.360
tough guy thing. Let them do what they want to do.

3862
03:03:00.440 --> 03:03:03.120
I don't really care. I don't think that's a good

3863
03:03:03.159 --> 03:03:06.559
way to organize the world. That can't happen without spillover

3864
03:03:07.079 --> 03:03:09.079
in Like we thought that going into World War Two,

3865
03:03:09.079 --> 03:03:11.200
we thought we can stay out of this. This is

3866
03:03:11.239 --> 03:03:13.600
not our fight. And I'm not saying that was even

3867
03:03:13.719 --> 03:03:17.879
wrong to say at the time, especially when we we

3868
03:03:17.879 --> 03:03:20.520
we get the benefit of looking back at history, and

3869
03:03:21.159 --> 03:03:23.639
you know, they didn't know the Holocaust was happening, Like

3870
03:03:23.879 --> 03:03:25.879
they did not have news reporters on the ground in

3871
03:03:25.920 --> 03:03:29.399
real time with satellite links. Like it's just more complicated

3872
03:03:29.440 --> 03:03:33.239
the way information moved. I believe that if we knew

3873
03:03:33.360 --> 03:03:34.840
more like we knew what we knew now, I think

3874
03:03:34.840 --> 03:03:36.120
we would have gotten in or whatever. I think the

3875
03:03:36.120 --> 03:03:39.200
American people would have potentially demanded it, but different war,

3876
03:03:39.239 --> 03:03:41.399
for sure, different war, for sure, but you get attacked

3877
03:03:41.399 --> 03:03:43.120
at Pearl Harbor and it's like, all right, we're in this.

3878
03:03:43.399 --> 03:03:45.239
It's like you know, and then it's like and then

3879
03:03:45.280 --> 03:03:48.280
once you start realizing what's going on, it's like, no,

3880
03:03:48.360 --> 03:03:49.760
we've got to push back. We got to make sure

3881
03:03:49.799 --> 03:03:53.200
this never happens again. Like so everything that happens after

3882
03:03:53.200 --> 03:03:55.040
we enter World War two is like, we've got to

3883
03:03:55.079 --> 03:03:58.840
make sure that empires don't try to expand territorially and

3884
03:03:58.959 --> 03:04:00.000
murder people in the process.

3885
03:04:00.120 --> 03:04:03.120
US and I think the lines are drawn at this point,

3886
03:04:03.239 --> 03:04:05.639
like we we don't need to be going back to

3887
03:04:05.719 --> 03:04:08.799
the ancient days of you know, which ruler has the

3888
03:04:08.840 --> 03:04:11.319
bigger dick, and I'm going to take this territory because

3889
03:04:11.440 --> 03:04:12.799
I think I just need to expand.

3890
03:04:12.799 --> 03:04:16.879
And I mean, you'll say that except that Donald Trump

3891
03:04:16.920 --> 03:04:19.680
wants to take Greenland and wants to bully Canada and

3892
03:04:19.719 --> 03:04:22.520
Mexico more than he told China, you know what I mean,

3893
03:04:22.559 --> 03:04:24.360
Like we are we are allowed.

3894
03:04:24.479 --> 03:04:27.079
To be fair. The US did offered to buy Greenland

3895
03:04:27.159 --> 03:04:29.159
years ago. I forgot what the amount.

3896
03:04:28.920 --> 03:04:30.399
Was, which I think would have been a great plan.

3897
03:04:30.520 --> 03:04:34.120
I actually think it's a good like it's a good

3898
03:04:34.559 --> 03:04:37.360
we shouldn't talk about invading Greenland.

3899
03:04:37.399 --> 03:04:39.360
You know, you know he's trolling half the time. Like

3900
03:04:39.399 --> 03:04:42.000
I know, I know that you don't like him, and

3901
03:04:42.120 --> 03:04:44.159
I don't agree with everything he says or does either,

3902
03:04:44.200 --> 03:04:46.719
But you also got to recognize the troll in him.

3903
03:04:46.680 --> 03:04:48.600
Right, But do you think you'll get what you want

3904
03:04:48.639 --> 03:04:50.120
when you do that?

3905
03:04:49.479 --> 03:04:49.600
Oh?

3906
03:04:51.040 --> 03:04:53.159
You know what I mean? Like, I don't I like it?

3907
03:04:53.239 --> 03:04:55.920
For example, I could agree, I'm not going to agree

3908
03:04:55.959 --> 03:04:59.040
with the fact that he would, but there's just a

3909
03:04:59.159 --> 03:05:02.559
side of him that he just likes to antagonize and

3910
03:05:03.600 --> 03:05:05.280
poke the barons. I think you're totally right.

3911
03:05:05.319 --> 03:05:07.000
I think most of the stuff, it's like we're most

3912
03:05:07.040 --> 03:05:08.639
of the stuff we talked about on a daily basis

3913
03:05:08.719 --> 03:05:11.799
is distraction, and he has distraction. However, I think the

3914
03:05:11.840 --> 03:05:14.159
other thing he does that's dangerous is he throws something

3915
03:05:14.159 --> 03:05:17.879
out as a joke true, and then judges the reaction

3916
03:05:18.200 --> 03:05:20.520
based on saying if it's a joke or not. And

3917
03:05:20.840 --> 03:05:24.600
once anyone starts going like, yeah, we should invade Greenland,

3918
03:05:24.680 --> 03:05:27.360
or yes we should teariff canaon in Mexico more than

3919
03:05:27.399 --> 03:05:30.360
we do China, then he goes, all right, I can

3920
03:05:30.440 --> 03:05:31.719
roll with this because it's like it's a way to

3921
03:05:31.760 --> 03:05:33.079
throw a trial balloon out there.

3922
03:05:33.680 --> 03:05:36.319
And he's stressed tests class. That's exactly what he does.

3923
03:05:36.440 --> 03:05:38.799
That's what he's doing every single time. He's stress testing.

3924
03:05:38.879 --> 03:05:41.559
And and the problem is we've got a feedback loop

3925
03:05:41.799 --> 03:05:44.239
where the Republican Party has said everything he says we

3926
03:05:44.280 --> 03:05:46.319
have to agree with and so he gets that act

3927
03:05:46.600 --> 03:05:49.040
get now, Sometimes people push back, Like some of the

3928
03:05:49.040 --> 03:05:51.399
hate speech stuff that Pambondi did last week was like

3929
03:05:53.079 --> 03:05:55.680
Charlie Kirk would would have absolutely argued with you that

3930
03:05:55.719 --> 03:05:57.920
there's free speech and then there's hate speech like that's

3931
03:05:57.959 --> 03:06:00.440
like totally not true, and like so he got pushed

3932
03:06:00.440 --> 03:06:01.920
back from the right for that, and again they just

3933
03:06:01.959 --> 03:06:03.680
get to go like, well I misspoke or it was

3934
03:06:03.719 --> 03:06:05.920
a joke or I'm just t you know, right, And

3935
03:06:06.000 --> 03:06:09.120
so I don't love that, Like that is always the fallback.

3936
03:06:09.200 --> 03:06:11.680
I'd rather just be like say what you mean, mean

3937
03:06:11.719 --> 03:06:14.600
what you say right in like Greenland could be a

3938
03:06:14.600 --> 03:06:17.239
good strategy, but like offer to be Like what I

3939
03:06:17.239 --> 03:06:18.879
want to do is work with Denmark to like I

3940
03:06:19.159 --> 03:06:21.520
want to have that territory for And here's the reasons

3941
03:06:21.520 --> 03:06:24.040
why I think we're scared of Russia and I think

3942
03:06:24.040 --> 03:06:26.319
it's a ge like like list the reasons, like make

3943
03:06:26.360 --> 03:06:29.360
the case. But when you joke about invading, you just

3944
03:06:29.440 --> 03:06:32.040
sound like Russia, and you just sound like China. You

3945
03:06:32.040 --> 03:06:33.399
just sound like a ron, You just sound like North

3946
03:06:33.440 --> 03:06:38.040
Korea's you know. So we think we're different. I think

3947
03:06:38.040 --> 03:06:41.079
we think we're more civilized, and I think the I

3948
03:06:41.079 --> 03:06:43.639
guess I'll sort of close with this. My overall view

3949
03:06:43.760 --> 03:06:46.760
of politics and the difference between conservatives and liberals is

3950
03:06:46.760 --> 03:06:49.639
that I come from the conservatives. I believe that people

3951
03:06:49.680 --> 03:06:52.879
are inherently bad. I think that we're flawed. I think

3952
03:06:52.879 --> 03:06:55.920
that people will pursue power if there's not a check

3953
03:06:55.959 --> 03:06:57.799
against it, Like these are all things that I just

3954
03:06:57.840 --> 03:07:01.479
think are human nature, and so I want a system

3955
03:07:01.520 --> 03:07:06.120
that blocks that from happening to the best of its ability.

3956
03:07:06.600 --> 03:07:10.959
And I just I think that we think we're better

3957
03:07:11.040 --> 03:07:13.479
than people one hundred years ago, a thousand years ago,

3958
03:07:13.600 --> 03:07:16.360
pick the time. And I don't think we are. I

3959
03:07:16.360 --> 03:07:18.440
think that in a lot of ways we are, Like

3960
03:07:18.559 --> 03:07:21.639
things are better, We've got technology, like people live longer,

3961
03:07:21.719 --> 03:07:24.319
people are like fewer people are starving, people are fewer

3962
03:07:24.360 --> 03:07:27.200
people are in poverty, Like there's all sorts of good

3963
03:07:27.239 --> 03:07:29.040
things about the world today. But when it comes to

3964
03:07:29.040 --> 03:07:29.719
the human.

3965
03:07:29.559 --> 03:07:32.559
Heart and power and.

3966
03:07:34.319 --> 03:07:37.280
Just all that stuff, I don't think we're really any

3967
03:07:37.280 --> 03:07:38.600
different when you look at what's going on in the

3968
03:07:38.600 --> 03:07:40.319
Middle East, when you look at what's happening with Russia

3969
03:07:40.319 --> 03:07:42.239
and Ukraine, you look at China, you look at even

3970
03:07:42.319 --> 03:07:44.719
just us and the way we've turned politics into an

3971
03:07:44.840 --> 03:07:46.799
US versus them and let's get all the power we

3972
03:07:46.840 --> 03:07:50.159
can and violence is okay against my enemy because they're evil.

3973
03:07:50.600 --> 03:07:52.680
I don't think we've really evolved as much as we

3974
03:07:52.760 --> 03:07:56.479
think we have. And I think that until we say,

3975
03:07:57.440 --> 03:07:59.639
like I think Americans, because that's the only people I'm

3976
03:07:59.680 --> 03:08:03.680
talk abo like us as voters, until we say, actually,

3977
03:08:04.479 --> 03:08:07.600
I don't want someone like I don't trust the government

3978
03:08:07.680 --> 03:08:10.639
to have control over what free speech is. I don't

3979
03:08:10.680 --> 03:08:16.639
trust unchecked power. I don't trust like Congress just relegating

3980
03:08:16.719 --> 03:08:19.920
all of their power to the executive branch, even when

3981
03:08:19.920 --> 03:08:23.319
it's someone in there that I like. I think until

3982
03:08:23.360 --> 03:08:25.719
that changes, until we actually change our view in humanation

3983
03:08:25.879 --> 03:08:30.319
and stop trusting people in power in like without question,

3984
03:08:31.159 --> 03:08:33.680
that we will like keep slipping down the slope. I think,

3985
03:08:34.319 --> 03:08:38.399
in combination with we don't have a World War two

3986
03:08:38.399 --> 03:08:41.600
style crisis that will wake us up. And I keep

3987
03:08:41.680 --> 03:08:44.360
thinking things will be that. I thought COVID might be

3988
03:08:44.440 --> 03:08:46.399
the thing that makes us go like, oh, here's just

3989
03:08:46.559 --> 03:08:50.920
a virus, Like no one's the bad guy. And as

3990
03:08:50.920 --> 03:08:52.760
soon I mean, we can blame, like we can talk

3991
03:08:52.760 --> 03:08:55.040
about like where did it come from, like labla theory

3992
03:08:55.079 --> 03:08:57.360
all this kind of stuff, and talk about like there

3993
03:08:57.399 --> 03:09:00.200
might be blame to go around. But like we went

3994
03:09:00.200 --> 03:09:02.680
in camps. It was like instead of going, hey, we

3995
03:09:02.680 --> 03:09:05.319
could actually like save lives, we could do things the

3996
03:09:05.360 --> 03:09:07.440
right way. We should look at data, we should got science.

3997
03:09:07.600 --> 03:09:09.799
We just went into our camps and said I'm on

3998
03:09:09.879 --> 03:09:12.760
side this and you're onside that, and we are enemies.

3999
03:09:12.799 --> 03:09:14.879
And it was like humans are going to always be

4000
03:09:14.959 --> 03:09:18.239
human play period exactly. You're always gonna take an opportunity.

4001
03:09:18.639 --> 03:09:21.959
You can't. You can't ever no matter how how many

4002
03:09:22.040 --> 03:09:24.000
years we've been on Earth, it may have evolved as

4003
03:09:24.159 --> 03:09:27.760
as as a people, for some reason, we can't stamp

4004
03:09:27.799 --> 03:09:33.239
out jealousy, the desire for power, money really any whatever

4005
03:09:33.280 --> 03:09:34.440
whatever that currency may be.

4006
03:09:35.040 --> 03:09:37.200
And like and like I mentioned, I'm a Christian, so

4007
03:09:37.280 --> 03:09:39.879
I mean I find all of this in like spiritual

4008
03:09:39.959 --> 03:09:41.840
like I mean I think that really it goes down

4009
03:09:41.879 --> 03:09:44.000
to it's like it's it's the deadly sins. I mean,

4010
03:09:44.000 --> 03:09:44.280
it's like.

4011
03:09:44.280 --> 03:09:47.959
It's envy, it is it's lust, its.

4012
03:09:47.799 --> 03:09:49.760
Power, it's like it's all the things that we've been

4013
03:09:49.760 --> 03:09:57.360
struggling with for the entirety of human existence. And when

4014
03:09:58.520 --> 03:10:01.600
you know, when we don't, I think it's like that happens.

4015
03:10:01.600 --> 03:10:03.760
But not only are we not willing to well, we're

4016
03:10:03.760 --> 03:10:05.559
willing to call things evil that I don't think are

4017
03:10:05.600 --> 03:10:07.520
really evil, and then but we don't really call out

4018
03:10:07.559 --> 03:10:10.840
real evil when it's there. It's a weird juxtaposition of

4019
03:10:12.760 --> 03:10:15.680
being able to believe, like on the left, that America

4020
03:10:15.799 --> 03:10:20.000
is evil and there's no redeeming of it because of slavery,

4021
03:10:20.239 --> 03:10:25.520
but at the same time, like every person deserves, like

4022
03:10:25.639 --> 03:10:27.799
is a good person. I'm like, well, those two things

4023
03:10:27.840 --> 03:10:31.239
can't really exist at the same time, like all people

4024
03:10:31.319 --> 03:10:34.840
can't be inherently good, and like our entire country and

4025
03:10:34.879 --> 03:10:37.440
everyone that's ever lived in it that's white is evil.

4026
03:10:37.600 --> 03:10:40.959
Like you can't have both those things right. But I

4027
03:10:40.959 --> 03:10:43.719
don't think most people have wrestled with the contradiction there.

4028
03:10:44.200 --> 03:10:47.319
It's like the devil could be right in front of

4029
03:10:47.360 --> 03:10:48.760
you and you wouldn't recognize them.

4030
03:10:49.159 --> 03:10:52.479
Oh absolutely, And I think that's the case a lot

4031
03:10:52.520 --> 03:10:53.639
of the times now. And it's not even that you

4032
03:10:53.680 --> 03:10:55.840
wouldn't recognize them, and it's now you would celebrate them

4033
03:10:56.440 --> 03:10:58.520
like that too, frankly, which is what I think is

4034
03:10:58.520 --> 03:11:02.799
the case if you celebrate someone murdering someone. Ever, like,

4035
03:11:03.319 --> 03:11:05.319
there's very few people on this earth that I would

4036
03:11:05.360 --> 03:11:09.799
celebrate their death, and most of them are those people

4037
03:11:09.879 --> 03:11:13.520
that are oppressing you know, entire countries full of people

4038
03:11:13.719 --> 03:11:15.879
or or evil or they're terrorists or they're you know,

4039
03:11:15.920 --> 03:11:18.920
they're like they are evil, and I think that they were.

4040
03:11:18.639 --> 03:11:21.360
Obvious problem or blight to humanity.

4041
03:11:21.399 --> 03:11:23.840
I mean, it has right, but even then, I'd rather

4042
03:11:23.879 --> 03:11:28.200
see Putin overthrown by his own people. And like that's

4043
03:11:28.239 --> 03:11:28.920
what I like.

4044
03:11:29.079 --> 03:11:33.680
The solution is always the people need to stand up.

4045
03:11:34.000 --> 03:11:38.840
It is that that gets really really hard. And I

4046
03:11:38.879 --> 03:11:41.280
do think those countries are I think those leaders are

4047
03:11:41.319 --> 03:11:43.920
scared of their people. I mean, there's a billion Chinese people.

4048
03:11:44.040 --> 03:11:47.840
There's no way the government is not scared of those people. Really,

4049
03:11:48.600 --> 03:11:52.120
it doesn't even take a majority of them to have

4050
03:11:52.159 --> 03:11:55.600
a real threat on your you know, like you could

4051
03:11:55.639 --> 03:11:59.120
not we we always talk like the common thing is

4052
03:11:59.159 --> 03:12:01.639
always like, well you can camp again. Everyone thought Russia

4053
03:12:01.639 --> 03:12:03.760
would just go in there and crush Ukraine. It turns

4054
03:12:03.799 --> 03:12:05.559
out then when people are willing to fight for their country,

4055
03:12:05.600 --> 03:12:08.879
it's like they're scrappy. We we had a real tough

4056
03:12:08.920 --> 03:12:11.680
time fighting, you know, a bunch of people in caves

4057
03:12:11.920 --> 03:12:16.319
in Iraq and Afghanistan rootimentry weapons, Like we had the

4058
03:12:16.360 --> 03:12:19.600
best best technology in the world as far as that

4059
03:12:19.600 --> 03:12:22.000
stuff goes, and we are having trouble trying to figure

4060
03:12:22.040 --> 03:12:24.360
out how to like stop roadside bombs from killing our

4061
03:12:24.680 --> 03:12:28.000
like I D S and stuff like. It is all right, military,

4062
03:12:28.079 --> 03:12:30.079
MIT's not always all cracked up to be?

4063
03:12:30.799 --> 03:12:34.040
Is all right? Where's the bright spot? How are we

4064
03:12:34.200 --> 03:12:36.959
going to fix all this? Man, we've been We've been

4065
03:12:36.959 --> 03:12:40.120
going for for a long hours. I've been bad at this.

4066
03:12:40.159 --> 03:12:43.440
I need to start. Fine, man, you're fine. I have

4067
03:12:43.520 --> 03:12:45.520
no problem talking for a long time. And I think

4068
03:12:46.120 --> 03:12:47.559
I think about two to three hours easy.

4069
03:12:47.840 --> 03:12:50.840
I think the bright spot, if there is one, it's

4070
03:12:50.920 --> 03:12:53.360
not You're not gonna like the bright spot. I do

4071
03:12:53.479 --> 03:12:57.799
think that in a real crisis, people can wake up

4072
03:12:59.040 --> 03:13:03.360
and realize that and just totally change. I mean, I like,

4073
03:13:03.399 --> 03:13:06.200
I don't think it takes. I think there's some ways

4074
03:13:06.200 --> 03:13:08.520
that we need to do gradual change, but like convincing

4075
03:13:08.600 --> 03:13:12.520
people that we should change the way we elect like

4076
03:13:13.159 --> 03:13:15.239
do primaries, Like I don't have a real like I

4077
03:13:15.280 --> 03:13:16.959
think that that's a problem, but I also think it's

4078
03:13:17.040 --> 03:13:18.840
unrealistic to think that that's going to go away. I

4079
03:13:18.840 --> 03:13:20.719
think the same thing with the congressional stuff. It's like,

4080
03:13:20.760 --> 03:13:22.399
I think all that stuff you said is true, but

4081
03:13:22.399 --> 03:13:24.000
I think it's going to be hard to convince Congress

4082
03:13:24.040 --> 03:13:26.680
to vote for their own pay cuts and job you

4083
03:13:26.840 --> 03:13:27.280
know what I mean.

4084
03:13:27.479 --> 03:13:27.840
And so.

4085
03:13:29.399 --> 03:13:31.760
But I do go like what has worked in the past,

4086
03:13:31.799 --> 03:13:36.239
and unfortunately, the thing that works in the past is is,

4087
03:13:36.399 --> 03:13:38.760
you know, we get attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor,

4088
03:13:38.920 --> 03:13:41.879
and it wakes us up to understanding that like, oh,

4089
03:13:42.000 --> 03:13:45.319
this is real and this is not just something that's

4090
03:13:45.319 --> 03:13:48.040
happening somewhere else that we feel like it's not our

4091
03:13:48.079 --> 03:13:51.200
thing to deal with, and people stepped up. It's not

4092
03:13:51.239 --> 03:13:52.600
just that we got into World War two, it's that

4093
03:13:52.719 --> 03:13:54.760
like we sent off all our men to fight for

4094
03:13:54.879 --> 03:13:55.600
other countries.

4095
03:13:56.200 --> 03:13:56.760
Essentially.

4096
03:13:56.840 --> 03:13:58.479
I mean, like, I know, we got attacked by Japan

4097
03:13:58.719 --> 03:14:01.159
and we really but like the europe stuff, had nothing,

4098
03:14:01.239 --> 03:14:02.799
I mean, nothing to do with this. We just kind

4099
03:14:02.799 --> 03:14:04.680
of said like, okay, we got to fight this war

4100
03:14:04.719 --> 03:14:07.799
on two fronts and help our friends out right, the

4101
03:14:07.879 --> 03:14:11.799
women go to work, we change factories from cars to weapons.

4102
03:14:11.840 --> 03:14:14.520
I mean, like it was a the whole nation got

4103
03:14:14.559 --> 03:14:18.079
behind that thing. I think nine to eleven was kind

4104
03:14:18.120 --> 03:14:19.040
of one of those things.

4105
03:14:19.319 --> 03:14:22.879
Isn't it sad that conflict like wars are the only

4106
03:14:22.920 --> 03:14:24.319
thing that unite us as a people?

4107
03:14:25.239 --> 03:14:26.159
Yeah, it is.

4108
03:14:25.959 --> 03:14:28.239
Is there not any other reason?

4109
03:14:28.760 --> 03:14:30.520
Well, I mean I do think that at some point

4110
03:14:30.600 --> 03:14:32.120
things can get bad, and I mean I think the

4111
03:14:32.440 --> 03:14:36.399
fiscal crisis could also do the same thing, you know,

4112
03:14:37.280 --> 03:14:41.399
great depression, and I think we're heading towards something like

4113
03:14:41.440 --> 03:14:45.159
that with the debt we have. It's just it's unsustainable.

4114
03:14:45.479 --> 03:14:48.600
At some point that will a matter of time collapse

4115
03:14:49.159 --> 03:14:51.440
and that will that can be the thing I said,

4116
03:14:51.440 --> 03:14:53.680
I don't see any way that it's like we just

4117
03:14:53.719 --> 03:14:57.040
slowly figured out because you mentioned you mentioned going in

4118
03:14:57.120 --> 03:15:01.600
all all in on the lies earlier, and it's worked

4119
03:15:01.719 --> 03:15:04.520
very well for Donald Trump. It's just like a say

4120
03:15:04.520 --> 03:15:06.360
it over and over and over again till people believe it.

4121
03:15:07.520 --> 03:15:11.200
Democrats instead of saying we could be a different kind

4122
03:15:11.200 --> 03:15:14.479
of party. It's very obvious that they've just learned from

4123
03:15:14.520 --> 03:15:16.319
that and they're just going to start doing that like

4124
03:15:16.360 --> 03:15:19.760
that's the new thing. It's like, and so I think

4125
03:15:19.799 --> 03:15:22.799
the lesson learned is a bad lesson. And I think,

4126
03:15:23.200 --> 03:15:25.639
you know, I think what people really want is authentic

4127
03:15:25.760 --> 03:15:28.239
people to be their leaders. I think both parties have

4128
03:15:28.280 --> 03:15:30.879
not figured that out. I think that if they just

4129
03:15:30.879 --> 03:15:34.159
figured out, like if we run real honest people, even

4130
03:15:34.159 --> 03:15:36.440
if they have some opinions that rub people the wrong way,

4131
03:15:36.479 --> 03:15:38.840
they're going to be refreshed by the honesty or whatever.

4132
03:15:38.840 --> 03:15:39.000
It's like.

4133
03:15:39.079 --> 03:15:41.079
I think people like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump because

4134
03:15:41.079 --> 03:15:44.760
they were so authentic. I'm not saying they tell the

4135
03:15:44.799 --> 03:15:47.239
truth all the time, but I think they're authentically themselves.

4136
03:15:47.280 --> 03:15:49.879
They're not changing their accent. Donald Trump keeps the suit

4137
03:15:49.959 --> 03:15:52.479
on at McDonald's, like he's not getting on a flannel

4138
03:15:52.520 --> 03:15:54.920
shirt to pretend he's a farmer. He's not going on

4139
03:15:54.959 --> 03:15:57.000
a fake duck hunt or something. It's not him.

4140
03:15:57.360 --> 03:15:58.200
He just won't do it.

4141
03:15:58.280 --> 03:16:00.920
Bernie Sanders doesn't do it either. Think that's what attracted

4142
03:16:00.920 --> 03:16:05.000
people to those politicians. But I just don't see a

4143
03:16:05.239 --> 03:16:08.440
I don't see a way that we don't have some

4144
03:16:08.479 --> 03:16:10.639
sort of crisis that gets us there. I hope it's

4145
03:16:10.639 --> 03:16:14.000
not a war, but wars are traditionally the things that

4146
03:16:14.000 --> 03:16:18.639
that do galvanize people. But it could be, like nothing else,

4147
03:16:18.840 --> 03:16:20.719
it could be an economic crisis. I mean, I think

4148
03:16:20.719 --> 03:16:22.799
that's something that makes people wake up and demand stuff.

4149
03:16:22.799 --> 03:16:27.239
We've seen that around the world. I think that there

4150
03:16:27.360 --> 03:16:32.479
is a degree of like wanting to better. I think

4151
03:16:32.559 --> 03:16:35.360
the one thing that I would say, I don't really

4152
03:16:35.440 --> 03:16:38.040
I'm not big into the populist like America first stuff,

4153
03:16:38.079 --> 03:16:41.479
because I think most of it is is is has

4154
03:16:41.520 --> 03:16:44.200
the seeds of racism underneath it, and they pretend it's

4155
03:16:44.200 --> 03:16:45.920
not there, but it's really by we don't like that

4156
03:16:45.959 --> 03:16:48.959
white people aren't like for the most part. That's where again,

4157
03:16:49.000 --> 03:16:51.120
we just keep pulling the thread. That's where we always

4158
03:16:51.200 --> 03:16:54.040
end up being. But I do think there's value in saying, like,

4159
03:16:54.159 --> 03:16:56.639
I think we need to better defind what an American is,

4160
03:16:57.559 --> 03:17:01.120
and that's hard to do. And half of the country,

4161
03:17:01.200 --> 03:17:04.360
the sort of party that is capitulated to the progressive

4162
03:17:04.399 --> 03:17:07.719
wing that says there's nothing redemptive about this country, can't

4163
03:17:07.760 --> 03:17:10.959
say can't define Americanism because they say it's evil, and

4164
03:17:12.319 --> 03:17:15.000
the right side says, you know, it's a bunch of

4165
03:17:15.000 --> 03:17:17.799
stuff that doesn't really matter. Like I think that I'm

4166
03:17:17.799 --> 03:17:20.559
a Christian. I don't think that we need like I

4167
03:17:20.600 --> 03:17:24.280
don't need the Ten Commandments to be in schools for

4168
03:17:24.319 --> 03:17:26.760
me to have security in the idea that like you

4169
03:17:26.760 --> 03:17:28.920
can be a Christian in this country, like we're not persecuted.

4170
03:17:28.920 --> 03:17:31.040
The people that are pretending that Christians are being persecuted

4171
03:17:31.079 --> 03:17:34.319
in this country are insane. Now, they're really actually you

4172
03:17:34.360 --> 03:17:36.280
want to see where they're getting persecuted. It's like China.

4173
03:17:37.000 --> 03:17:39.360
It's also where they're growing the most. So I'm just

4174
03:17:39.399 --> 03:17:41.840
like that kind of stuff bothers me. But like neither

4175
03:17:41.879 --> 03:17:44.760
side will really define what Americanism is. So the right

4176
03:17:44.879 --> 03:17:48.000
is saying, you know, literally, I think did Jad Advance

4177
03:17:48.040 --> 03:17:49.879
tweet this out? I might be wrong about someone put

4178
03:17:49.879 --> 03:17:51.600
a thing out the other day. It is pretty prominent.

4179
03:17:51.680 --> 03:17:53.920
It was kind of like, here's the levels of Americanism.

4180
03:17:53.959 --> 03:17:56.639
And it's like, you know, if your ancestors came here

4181
03:17:57.399 --> 03:18:01.319
in the fifteen hundreds, you're sixty, obviously you're more American

4182
03:18:01.360 --> 03:18:05.040
than someone that came here last you know, you're you're you're,

4183
03:18:05.120 --> 03:18:08.680
you're a second generation American, And it's basically this way

4184
03:18:08.680 --> 03:18:11.040
to say, here's this hierarchy of who's more American than other.

4185
03:18:11.079 --> 03:18:13.840
And I'm like that you're talking about talking about now,

4186
03:18:14.799 --> 03:18:15.200
and it's.

4187
03:18:15.079 --> 03:18:17.600
Very much a white nationalist. It's like it's wrapped up

4188
03:18:17.639 --> 03:18:20.520
in we're pretending we're not being racist. But I think

4189
03:18:20.600 --> 03:18:23.200
the better thing to define Americanism is, like, we believe in, first,

4190
03:18:23.360 --> 03:18:27.040
in free speech. If you come here, uh, if you

4191
03:18:27.159 --> 03:18:29.440
want to come here and we vet you and you

4192
03:18:29.559 --> 03:18:32.479
don't believe in free speech, we're gonna say no. If

4193
03:18:32.520 --> 03:18:34.600
you think you can shout down other people or you

4194
03:18:34.600 --> 03:18:36.760
can use violence to shut down people, no, we're not

4195
03:18:36.799 --> 03:18:41.159
interested in having you here. We believe in voting, we

4196
03:18:41.200 --> 03:18:45.200
believe in democracy, we believe in in federalism. Whatever we're

4197
03:18:45.200 --> 03:18:47.120
going to like, we need to define that better. And

4198
03:18:47.159 --> 03:18:49.280
I think the Constitution does a great job at defining this.

4199
03:18:49.319 --> 03:18:51.520
We're just gonna fine, we just don't stick to it.

4200
03:18:52.239 --> 03:18:54.559
Yeah, But I think that's the problem is that, like,

4201
03:18:54.799 --> 03:18:57.120
if you ask what does it mean to be American

4202
03:18:57.440 --> 03:19:00.200
to one hundred people right now, you might at one

4203
03:19:00.239 --> 03:19:00.959
hundred different.

4204
03:19:00.760 --> 03:19:02.440
Answers just because they don't know.

4205
03:19:02.879 --> 03:19:04.920
And I think I think Britain is going through that too.

4206
03:19:05.120 --> 03:19:07.040
I think that France is going through that. I think

4207
03:19:07.040 --> 03:19:09.200
a lot of countries are going through that. And I

4208
03:19:09.959 --> 03:19:14.200
don't believe that we somehow made assimilation a bad.

4209
03:19:14.120 --> 03:19:16.000
You know, honestly, we don't even we don't even know

4210
03:19:16.040 --> 03:19:17.040
how to define our culture.

4211
03:19:17.120 --> 03:19:20.000
Let's just be honest, right, And it's because you it

4212
03:19:20.040 --> 03:19:22.440
doesn't happen. But like I said, it needs to be broad.

4213
03:19:22.680 --> 03:19:25.520
Like I said, we believe in free speech, and if

4214
03:19:25.520 --> 03:19:27.360
you don't believe in free speech, we don't want you

4215
03:19:27.399 --> 03:19:30.360
here in America. Like that should be that's the litmus test.

4216
03:19:30.399 --> 03:19:33.040
It shouldn't be your skin color, your religion. But like

4217
03:19:33.680 --> 03:19:35.319
you know what I mean. And and but there are

4218
03:19:35.360 --> 03:19:37.200
people on the right that want it to be and

4219
03:19:37.200 --> 03:19:38.959
there are people on the left that say the exact

4220
03:19:39.000 --> 03:19:40.760
same thing. They're just like the white people are the

4221
03:19:40.799 --> 03:19:42.159
bad people, you know what I mean. It's it's no

4222
03:19:42.280 --> 03:19:46.360
different Like anytime we say someone's skin color is the

4223
03:19:46.399 --> 03:19:49.479
thing that defines them, primarily it's racist. It doesn't matter

4224
03:19:49.479 --> 03:19:52.239
if you're saying it's good or bad. It's it's you know.

4225
03:19:53.000 --> 03:19:55.799
And so to me, I think there's like we need

4226
03:19:55.799 --> 03:19:57.799
to have a national discussion of like what does that mean?

4227
03:19:57.840 --> 03:19:59.799
Because I think we do need to think about like

4228
03:20:00.040 --> 03:20:01.639
I want immigrants in this country, but I want to

4229
03:20:01.680 --> 03:20:04.319
be selective about it, like I don't want someone coming

4230
03:20:04.360 --> 03:20:05.879
to this country that hates this country.

4231
03:20:06.200 --> 03:20:08.760
Yeah, but I don't care that immigrants are here because

4232
03:20:08.760 --> 03:20:11.440
we all were at some point. I mean, you could

4233
03:20:11.440 --> 03:20:15.879
trace almost to anyone's family. It's whether or not they

4234
03:20:15.920 --> 03:20:20.760
are adding value yep, and assimilating period, just as I

4235
03:20:20.760 --> 03:20:23.159
would be expected to if I move to another country. Yep.

4236
03:20:23.520 --> 03:20:25.959
And we do have a culture. It's not a white culture,

4237
03:20:26.040 --> 03:20:28.639
a black culture, amazing culture. It's actually an amalgamation of all.

4238
03:20:28.719 --> 03:20:31.920
But I think what happened is there is an American

4239
03:20:31.959 --> 03:20:34.159
way of life, but all these other cultures and immigrants

4240
03:20:34.200 --> 03:20:36.639
came in and they added value and made it something

4241
03:20:36.719 --> 03:20:39.959
unique exactly. And that's the thing. It's like, we need

4242
03:20:40.000 --> 03:20:43.040
to get back to preserving that. You know, similar one

4243
03:20:43.040 --> 03:20:45.200
who doesn't believe in free speech, as you said, right

4244
03:20:45.280 --> 03:20:47.680
to come in and just bulldoze that and then totally

4245
03:20:47.680 --> 03:20:49.479
wipe it off the face of the earth and just

4246
03:20:49.479 --> 03:20:52.719
start something anew because they just don't like America. Yeah.

4247
03:20:52.760 --> 03:20:56.840
And I think that there's a there's a radicalization in

4248
03:20:56.920 --> 03:20:59.639
grouping around people that are just like you. And that

4249
03:20:59.879 --> 03:21:03.959
is whether you've got like Muslim communities that are maybe

4250
03:21:04.280 --> 03:21:08.799
like like we have in in in Minnesota, there's quite

4251
03:21:08.840 --> 03:21:10.799
a bit of that, or you have in London kind

4252
03:21:10.799 --> 03:21:16.440
of right now. Sometimes that's white conservatives, sometimes that's black liberals.

4253
03:21:16.479 --> 03:21:18.719
I mean, like anytime you get with a group of

4254
03:21:18.719 --> 03:21:21.000
people that all look and act and think exactly and

4255
03:21:21.040 --> 03:21:25.000
you know, exactly like you, extremism, Like it's like social

4256
03:21:25.079 --> 03:21:29.040
science sows that, like you're gonna get more extreme opinions

4257
03:21:29.079 --> 03:21:31.520
that come out of that and more extreme examples. And

4258
03:21:32.000 --> 03:21:33.840
I don't know how to force people to live by

4259
03:21:33.840 --> 03:21:35.959
each other. But that's why I think cities are great,

4260
03:21:36.120 --> 03:21:41.000
is because cities naturally don't let you not bump into

4261
03:21:41.040 --> 03:21:41.600
people you don't.

4262
03:21:41.719 --> 03:21:44.879
Like you live in New York City, opportunities will always

4263
03:21:45.000 --> 03:21:47.239
always be either blake because when you when you immigrate,

4264
03:21:48.159 --> 03:21:50.159
you want to be around people that you're familiar with

4265
03:21:50.719 --> 03:21:52.920
speak the same language, Like they can learn English, but

4266
03:21:52.920 --> 03:21:55.200
they're always to be fluent in their native tongue. Yeah,

4267
03:21:55.239 --> 03:21:57.520
So I get why that happens, and I don't have

4268
03:21:57.559 --> 03:22:00.959
a problem with that. There's always gonna be subcommunities, but to.

4269
03:22:00.879 --> 03:22:03.079
Me, it should always it should be doing this, it

4270
03:22:03.079 --> 03:22:06.040
should be spreading out. So like my my wife I mentioned,

4271
03:22:06.079 --> 03:22:08.760
is Italian or family came over here obviously like they

4272
03:22:08.799 --> 03:22:10.959
lived in really Italian those kind of things, like when

4273
03:22:11.000 --> 03:22:12.680
all Italians were coming over here and they were being

4274
03:22:12.680 --> 03:22:15.159
discriminated against and stuff. They lived in these little groups

4275
03:22:15.159 --> 03:22:16.959
of you know people that they were like when. But

4276
03:22:17.000 --> 03:22:19.639
then they also started influencing the culture. Not by like

4277
03:22:19.719 --> 03:22:21.959
demanding that they influenced the culture. It's like they started

4278
03:22:22.079 --> 03:22:24.319
making like everything we think of it as Italian food.

4279
03:22:24.479 --> 03:22:25.879
They didn't have an alien at the time because they

4280
03:22:25.879 --> 03:22:27.600
were too poor. They didn't have meat, they didn't have

4281
03:22:27.639 --> 03:22:31.399
meat balls getting meat here because finally they like had

4282
03:22:31.440 --> 03:22:33.879
the life where they could like cook with better ingredients,

4283
03:22:34.200 --> 03:22:37.000
and like I mean, they influenced and so like their

4284
03:22:37.000 --> 03:22:39.399
influence happened. You know, I think of it because I

4285
03:22:39.479 --> 03:22:43.760
just love Italian food, like very food, Like same thing

4286
03:22:43.799 --> 03:22:46.000
with Mexican stuff. It is like I love like Mexican

4287
03:22:46.040 --> 03:22:48.239
food talk like all that kind of stuff I love.

4288
03:22:48.520 --> 03:22:49.639
I love different.

4289
03:22:49.319 --> 03:22:53.440
Cultures, like different that's different than cultures who isolate and

4290
03:22:53.520 --> 03:22:57.479
create their own communities for the sake of not wanting

4291
03:22:57.520 --> 03:22:58.040
to integrate.

4292
03:22:58.440 --> 03:23:00.799
Isolation is the problem is when you don't try to

4293
03:23:00.840 --> 03:23:03.440
move out and you don't let people in, that is

4294
03:23:03.719 --> 03:23:05.719
always a problem. And like that's always going to take

4295
03:23:05.760 --> 03:23:07.440
decades too, by the way, it's time we're going to

4296
03:23:07.479 --> 03:23:09.440
take like that can't happen over the course of a

4297
03:23:09.440 --> 03:23:11.520
couple of years. But you know, I think of it

4298
03:23:11.600 --> 03:23:14.559
like we have I don't know if it's like what

4299
03:23:14.639 --> 03:23:16.799
we I mean, I know we do. We have like

4300
03:23:16.879 --> 03:23:20.680
a very high percentage of Asian Americans in Oklahoma because

4301
03:23:20.680 --> 03:23:22.719
we were just one of the places during the Vietnam

4302
03:23:22.799 --> 03:23:24.520
War and stuff that were just like come on, I

4303
03:23:24.559 --> 03:23:26.600
guess I don't really know how it happened or whatever,

4304
03:23:26.639 --> 03:23:31.360
but like we have an amazing Asian district and amazing restaurants.

4305
03:23:31.399 --> 03:23:35.239
They're like on I mean, like John Mulaney talked about

4306
03:23:35.399 --> 03:23:37.760
like an Asian grocery store because you know, Earbien months

4307
03:23:37.760 --> 03:23:40.079
from here or whatever, and they're married and like on

4308
03:23:40.079 --> 03:23:41.760
on the Tonight show. You know what I mean. It's like,

4309
03:23:42.559 --> 03:23:44.799
but that like they did it by like the and

4310
03:23:44.799 --> 03:23:46.600
and also there's a degree of like we welcome and

4311
03:23:46.639 --> 03:23:48.159
they wanted to be here, and they like want their

4312
03:23:48.239 --> 03:23:50.600
kids to educated, and they want their like I even

4313
03:23:50.600 --> 03:23:52.639
look back at that and I go every I went

4314
03:23:52.639 --> 03:23:55.399
to school with a lot of a lot of Vietnamese

4315
03:23:55.440 --> 03:23:57.840
people who like whose parents came here and then they

4316
03:23:57.879 --> 03:24:00.159
were born American citizens. All of them had like an

4317
03:24:00.200 --> 03:24:02.520
Asian name and an American name. Like all of those

4318
03:24:02.520 --> 03:24:04.600
parents that gave them a we're going to give you

4319
03:24:04.639 --> 03:24:08.479
an American name too, because they wanted their kid to

4320
03:24:08.639 --> 03:24:11.280
like they knew that this was it was going to

4321
03:24:11.280 --> 03:24:13.920
be different. That's hard to do with kids that would

4322
03:24:14.040 --> 03:24:16.280
I've never had to do that. I've never had to

4323
03:24:16.319 --> 03:24:18.399
like take my kids to another country and be okay

4324
03:24:18.440 --> 03:24:22.360
with like letting them become the definition of that country

4325
03:24:22.680 --> 03:24:25.920
and abandon you know, because like that's a that's a

4326
03:24:25.959 --> 03:24:26.719
scary thing to do.

4327
03:24:27.479 --> 03:24:29.920
Well. A lot of a lot of cultures did that

4328
03:24:30.319 --> 03:24:33.239
when they immigrated within a certain time. Because even my

4329
03:24:33.239 --> 03:24:35.680
my dad's side, when they came over, they're from the

4330
03:24:35.719 --> 03:24:39.879
Azores and they're all Portuguese, and when they have kids

4331
03:24:39.920 --> 03:24:42.239
like me being one of those kids that generation, they

4332
03:24:42.280 --> 03:24:44.600
intentionally want them to speak English only didn't even teach

4333
03:24:44.760 --> 03:24:46.680
Portuguese for whatever reason, which they should have.

4334
03:24:46.920 --> 03:24:48.959
Now I don't I don't love like that we eliminated

4335
03:24:49.000 --> 03:24:51.360
German as a language. It's just because of World War

4336
03:24:51.360 --> 03:24:53.280
two and stuff, like we did some stuff. We've done

4337
03:24:53.319 --> 03:24:54.680
a lot of stuff in America that I don't like

4338
03:24:54.840 --> 03:24:57.280
the way we did that, but I got that's what

4339
03:24:57.319 --> 03:25:00.920
I want. It's like like Asian immigrants are perfect example

4340
03:25:00.959 --> 03:25:03.440
of like they are thriving because they come here for

4341
03:25:03.479 --> 03:25:05.760
a better opportunity for their kids, and they make sure

4342
03:25:06.079 --> 03:25:09.319
that that happens by by like making sure their kids

4343
03:25:09.399 --> 03:25:12.760
get educated and making sure that they're you know, it's

4344
03:25:12.760 --> 03:25:14.239
like they've done a good job. And that's and by

4345
03:25:14.239 --> 03:25:16.360
the way, that's like across the bord ation, that's Indian,

4346
03:25:16.440 --> 03:25:19.719
that's Vietnamese, that's Japanese, like any like any immigrants, it's

4347
03:25:19.719 --> 03:25:22.559
mostly you know, the it's not a lot of Japanese

4348
03:25:22.559 --> 03:25:26.159
immigrants because Japan wasn't, you know, like bad in the

4349
03:25:26.159 --> 03:25:28.319
seventies and eighties or something like that. You know, but

4350
03:25:28.760 --> 03:25:32.000
you know, venam India, you've got all these immigrants that

4351
03:25:32.079 --> 03:25:34.879
like they to me, do it the right way in

4352
03:25:34.920 --> 03:25:38.159
the sense that like their goal is like I think

4353
03:25:38.159 --> 03:25:40.760
I can make a better life for myself there that

4354
03:25:40.920 --> 03:25:43.280
the land of opportunity. There's all these things that I

4355
03:25:43.280 --> 03:25:44.799
can do there that I can't do here. And I

4356
03:25:44.840 --> 03:25:47.319
want better for my kids. Everyone wants better for their kids.

4357
03:25:47.959 --> 03:25:50.520
And like, I don't think black people get enough credit

4358
03:25:50.600 --> 03:25:53.479
for Like what drives me crazy about anyone that tries

4359
03:25:53.520 --> 03:25:55.479
to pretend that like black people are this problem is

4360
03:25:55.479 --> 03:25:58.040
that like they've been Americans for longer than you have,

4361
03:25:58.159 --> 03:26:01.000
probably if you're white. Yeah, like your ancestors came here

4362
03:26:01.000 --> 03:26:03.319
in the nineteen hundreds and there's came here in the

4363
03:26:03.360 --> 03:26:06.920
fourteen I've learned sixteen hundreds or whatever. Sometimes and I'm

4364
03:26:06.920 --> 03:26:09.000
not saying that makes them more American than you. It

4365
03:26:09.120 --> 03:26:13.440
just bothers me that we discount like so often. And

4366
03:26:13.520 --> 03:26:16.000
like I said, I'm just picking on the right because

4367
03:26:16.959 --> 03:26:19.520
I think that's where most of the racism towards black

4368
03:26:19.559 --> 03:26:22.040
people is. And like I said, it's not normally that

4369
03:26:22.079 --> 03:26:24.159
they would say they don't, like they would never associate

4370
03:26:24.159 --> 03:26:25.920
with black people. They probably have black friends, but they

4371
03:26:25.920 --> 03:26:28.639
still think of them in this like monoculture. And that's

4372
03:26:28.680 --> 03:26:30.040
the other thing we do too much, is just like

4373
03:26:30.120 --> 03:26:31.719
try to pretend to all black people are the same,

4374
03:26:31.799 --> 03:26:33.479
or all Hispanic people are the same, or all white

4375
03:26:33.479 --> 03:26:34.000
people they're same.

4376
03:26:34.000 --> 03:26:36.319
It's like, OK, I think that that also depends on

4377
03:26:36.360 --> 03:26:39.639
the individual, like how you grew up, you know, I

4378
03:26:39.680 --> 03:26:42.520
because when I grew up, I wasn't I was not

4379
03:26:42.680 --> 03:26:45.319
in an all white area necessarily. I was like all

4380
03:26:45.360 --> 03:26:48.159
my friends from Mexican and black. Yeah, I just have

4381
03:26:48.200 --> 03:26:50.040
a different experience, for sure.

4382
03:26:50.079 --> 03:26:51.840
But even when you don't have even if you don't

4383
03:26:51.840 --> 03:26:54.799
have experience with those people, like what you should want

4384
03:26:54.840 --> 03:26:58.799
to do is have experience with and sometimes that's not possible.

4385
03:26:58.799 --> 03:27:02.000
Like there's just not a big that I I know,

4386
03:27:02.079 --> 03:27:03.399
like three Jewish.

4387
03:27:03.159 --> 03:27:05.959
Fears on both sides, though it's not it's not just

4388
03:27:06.040 --> 03:27:08.840
white people for example, some on both sides because because

4389
03:27:08.879 --> 03:27:12.760
that message has been driven for so many years that

4390
03:27:12.840 --> 03:27:15.440
we hate each other. Well again, by the way, don't

4391
03:27:15.440 --> 03:27:17.479
you're suspicious You're like, well, I don't know, I've heard

4392
03:27:17.719 --> 03:27:18.159
you know well, And.

4393
03:27:18.200 --> 03:27:21.280
Keep in mind also something that's like biological is.

4394
03:27:21.200 --> 03:27:24.840
Like you.

4395
03:27:23.239 --> 03:27:26.319
Know, scientifically, I can't tell the difference between other races

4396
03:27:26.319 --> 03:27:28.639
as much as and the same thing with me. I

4397
03:27:28.639 --> 03:27:30.639
had a teacher with the substitute on time that was

4398
03:27:30.719 --> 03:27:33.719
Korean or something, and uh, you know it's a bunch

4399
03:27:33.760 --> 03:27:36.159
of musicians like me, we got long hair, and like

4400
03:27:36.440 --> 03:27:38.600
he was there for like you know, the like two

4401
03:27:38.680 --> 03:27:40.559
weeks or something, someone's on their honeymoon or something, and

4402
03:27:40.639 --> 03:27:42.200
so he kept taking a role and he'd like get

4403
03:27:42.280 --> 03:27:44.040
his confusing. He's like, oh, yeah, white people look the

4404
03:27:44.079 --> 03:27:47.719
same to me. And we thought it was so funny

4405
03:27:47.879 --> 03:27:50.200
because the truth is it's like we do to them

4406
03:27:50.239 --> 03:27:52.000
just like they doesn't. And that doesn't mean a racist.

4407
03:27:52.040 --> 03:27:56.120
It's literally a biological thing in your brain. However, Uh, Like,

4408
03:27:56.239 --> 03:27:58.360
my favorite story ever is of the guy and I

4409
03:27:58.360 --> 03:28:02.719
always forget his name, musician and he he basically started

4410
03:28:02.760 --> 03:28:05.000
like trying to convert Couclux clan members.

4411
03:28:05.719 --> 03:28:07.840
It's a shame that I forgot his name you're talking about.

4412
03:28:08.040 --> 03:28:10.959
Uh, I'm gonna find it because it's but it's so

4413
03:28:11.079 --> 03:28:13.639
amazing because he basically decided, like I'm going to just

4414
03:28:13.639 --> 03:28:17.760
have conversations these people. I'm gonna invite them to Yeah.

4415
03:28:18.120 --> 03:28:20.440
I was just not I can't remember his name, but

4416
03:28:20.520 --> 03:28:22.239
he literally would just have these people over for dinner,

4417
03:28:22.280 --> 03:28:25.920
like viehmaily racist people that say he you know, like

4418
03:28:26.760 --> 03:28:29.360
and he has the hoods of all the people he converted.

4419
03:28:29.360 --> 03:28:33.319
And the game was yeah, probably I didn't see it,

4420
03:28:33.319 --> 03:28:35.159
but I mean to me, that is like.

4421
03:28:35.600 --> 03:28:37.280
I just brought them because I might have triggered his name,

4422
03:28:37.360 --> 03:28:39.719
I forget. But yeah, that was a great story.

4423
03:28:39.959 --> 03:28:42.399
The reason what's so wonderful about that is like he

4424
03:28:42.479 --> 03:28:45.319
had every like I would have discounted all those people,

4425
03:28:45.760 --> 03:28:47.600
like I would not have wanted I would not have

4426
03:28:47.639 --> 03:28:49.760
invited those people to dinner, Like I am definitely like

4427
03:28:49.799 --> 03:28:52.760
a justice guy where I'm like, nope, you've got an

4428
03:28:52.799 --> 03:28:56.600
evil opinion about something, and I'm I'm discounting you completely.

4429
03:28:56.959 --> 03:28:58.280
And the thing is, we're not just doing that with

4430
03:28:58.319 --> 03:29:01.319
stuff like racism. We're doing that with you voted for

4431
03:29:01.399 --> 03:29:05.000
Donald Trump. I'm I'm done with you. You voted for

4432
03:29:05.079 --> 03:29:06.600
Kamala Harris, I'm done with you.

4433
03:29:06.200 --> 03:29:06.600
You.

4434
03:29:06.959 --> 03:29:09.159
You know, we're doing that with everything, And so we're

4435
03:29:09.159 --> 03:29:11.159
isolating where we're like only going to be around people

4436
03:29:11.200 --> 03:29:14.319
that we think like and look like. And I think

4437
03:29:14.360 --> 03:29:16.719
his example is better. It's like, no, and now I

4438
03:29:16.760 --> 03:29:18.840
think that's an extreme example. I'm not saying everyone should

4439
03:29:18.879 --> 03:29:21.280
invite racists over for dinner like that's fine, Like it

4440
03:29:21.280 --> 03:29:22.600
would be crazy, but it was.

4441
03:29:22.600 --> 03:29:26.479
It was. It was a great great example of going

4442
03:29:26.520 --> 03:29:31.360
out and really really you know, taking a situation head

4443
03:29:31.360 --> 03:29:33.639
on and and just saying, you know, what I know,

4444
03:29:33.760 --> 03:29:35.079
I know what I heard, I know what's out there.

4445
03:29:35.120 --> 03:29:37.440
I'm going to take all this push that bullshit aside

4446
03:29:37.440 --> 03:29:39.000
and I'm going to make these people talk to me,

4447
03:29:39.040 --> 03:29:41.120
and I'm going to find out why they feel the

4448
03:29:41.159 --> 03:29:41.639
way they do.

4449
03:29:41.840 --> 03:29:44.440
And what happened every time. I mean, I don't know

4450
03:29:44.479 --> 03:29:48.360
if there's actually every time, but according to the most

4451
03:29:48.360 --> 03:29:51.200
of them, yeah, is that like like all of a sudden,

4452
03:29:51.200 --> 03:29:53.920
they're like having a conversation with a black person for

4453
03:29:53.959 --> 03:29:57.520
the first time in their life, and they realized that, wait,

4454
03:29:57.520 --> 03:30:00.159
we're a lot alike, like you love your family, I

4455
03:30:00.159 --> 03:30:02.559
love my family, like we have a lot of the

4456
03:30:02.559 --> 03:30:05.040
same value like well, and eventually just the scales fall

4457
03:30:05.079 --> 03:30:07.079
off your eyes and you realize this is silly. And

4458
03:30:07.159 --> 03:30:09.639
I have found that with political conversations, like I don't

4459
03:30:09.680 --> 03:30:11.959
ever no one ends up I'm not just gonna say

4460
03:30:11.959 --> 03:30:14.120
no one ends up hating me. But I feel like

4461
03:30:14.159 --> 03:30:18.479
every time I have even a very like, very passionate

4462
03:30:18.559 --> 03:30:21.120
argument with someone about something that I like strongly believe

4463
03:30:21.120 --> 03:30:24.799
they're wrong on, like I think we can do that

4464
03:30:24.920 --> 03:30:28.360
in America without vilifying the other side or thinking they're evil.

4465
03:30:28.360 --> 03:30:30.680
Like I go into thinking like I think that a

4466
03:30:30.719 --> 03:30:35.000
lot of the progressive ideas are looney tunes. But I

4467
03:30:35.079 --> 03:30:37.879
do I don't think it's because they want to destroy America. Well,

4468
03:30:38.440 --> 03:30:41.680
I think they have genuine I think underneath it they

4469
03:30:41.719 --> 03:30:44.600
have good intentions. Now, like good intentions don't matter at

4470
03:30:44.639 --> 03:30:47.280
all to me, because I've seen the horrors that come

4471
03:30:47.319 --> 03:30:50.639
out of good intentions sometimes, Like and I've.

4472
03:30:50.440 --> 03:30:52.879
Had I've had the situation you're talking about before, because

4473
03:30:52.920 --> 03:30:55.520
even you know, on my show, it's easy, it's easy

4474
03:30:55.559 --> 03:30:57.159
on even some of my earlier stuff for people to

4475
03:30:57.200 --> 03:30:59.920
pay me as being some maga guy. Yeah, and then

4476
03:31:00.159 --> 03:31:02.399
we get to talking and it's like they will come

4477
03:31:02.479 --> 03:31:04.120
at me a certain way, and then by the end

4478
03:31:04.159 --> 03:31:07.799
it's like they realize it's not what I am, you know.

4479
03:31:08.200 --> 03:31:10.079
And and again I don't know, I'm really sure what

4480
03:31:10.120 --> 03:31:11.520
I am anyway. I know I'm conservative, but I think

4481
03:31:11.520 --> 03:31:13.559
I'm more like you. I'm not, I think, kind of

4482
03:31:13.559 --> 03:31:14.280
homeless in that.

4483
03:31:14.360 --> 03:31:16.280
You got to treat people as individuals. We're not very

4484
03:31:16.280 --> 03:31:18.360
good at that, as zooming out to a country of

4485
03:31:18.360 --> 03:31:20.719
three hundred and thirty million people and being able to

4486
03:31:20.760 --> 03:31:23.680
talk as people as individuals, because that's really hard. It's abstract.

4487
03:31:23.719 --> 03:31:26.319
It's too hard to think and so like them. So

4488
03:31:26.360 --> 03:31:29.600
we lump everyone together and then we blame you know,

4489
03:31:29.600 --> 03:31:31.840
if one person does something bad from that crew, we

4490
03:31:31.879 --> 03:31:34.040
say that applies to all of them. Republicans are doing

4491
03:31:34.079 --> 03:31:38.200
that with transgenders right now. Again statistically, yeah, maybe there's

4492
03:31:38.200 --> 03:31:41.559
been eight trans shooters, but like even then, like, let's

4493
03:31:41.559 --> 03:31:44.159
just look at the pattern. Most of them have been white, young,

4494
03:31:44.200 --> 03:31:44.559
and male.

4495
03:31:44.639 --> 03:31:47.360
Does that mean right? Like, so what does that mean? Right?

4496
03:31:47.639 --> 03:31:47.840
You know?

4497
03:31:47.879 --> 03:31:49.559
So it's like do we have to like, no, we

4498
03:31:49.600 --> 03:31:51.280
don't have to do that. We can say that person

4499
03:31:51.319 --> 03:31:53.440
behave badly, or we can even say that like we

4500
03:31:53.520 --> 03:31:55.719
think that some of the ideology influenced it. I think

4501
03:31:55.760 --> 03:31:58.479
that's even totally fair to say true. But to try

4502
03:31:58.479 --> 03:32:01.120
to say, like Donald Trump wants to take guns rights

4503
03:32:01.159 --> 03:32:03.479
away from all transgender people, you know, and like good

4504
03:32:03.520 --> 03:32:06.399
for the NRA for being like, nope, we actually think

4505
03:32:06.440 --> 03:32:09.760
that's not legal. You cannot take someone's Second Amendment rights

4506
03:32:09.760 --> 03:32:11.040
away because they're transgender.

4507
03:32:11.639 --> 03:32:12.920
Let's let's wrap this up.

4508
03:32:12.959 --> 03:32:14.639
Yeah, it sounds good because I've hear it went way

4509
03:32:14.639 --> 03:32:15.000
too long.

4510
03:32:15.239 --> 03:32:18.079
No, no, it's it's it's fine. But you know, here's

4511
03:32:18.120 --> 03:32:21.319
to talking things out and coming up with ideas and

4512
03:32:21.319 --> 03:32:24.280
hopefully somebody hears some of these ideas, mostly from you,

4513
03:32:24.319 --> 03:32:30.440
by the way, and implements these as solutions. But uh, yeah,

4514
03:32:30.479 --> 03:32:31.520
you know, I have a feeling I'm going to be

4515
03:32:31.559 --> 03:32:34.200
staying in touch with you, and I love to I

4516
03:32:34.280 --> 03:32:36.520
need to have you on mind too. Yeah, I'd happy.

4517
03:32:36.840 --> 03:32:38.040
I would love to have you on some time and

4518
03:32:38.079 --> 03:32:40.159
we'll try to narrow the discussion because I try to

4519
03:32:40.200 --> 03:32:41.920
keep minds an hour because I just most people don't

4520
03:32:41.920 --> 03:32:44.479
want to hear me for any longer than that. But

4521
03:32:46.159 --> 03:32:48.440
I got to start giving myself a hard out, maybe

4522
03:32:48.680 --> 03:32:50.600
because otherwise I'll just talk about this stuff forever because

4523
03:32:50.600 --> 03:32:51.280
I think it matters.

4524
03:32:51.680 --> 03:32:56.079
That's all right, man, Well thank you. I'm sure, like

4525
03:32:56.120 --> 03:32:58.760
I said, I know, I'm going to be talking to it. Yeah, yeah,

4526
03:32:58.799 --> 03:33:01.200
for sure. Of course, everybody please check out blakes podcast

4527
03:33:02.319 --> 03:33:04.760
Homeless Conservative, correct the Homeless Conservative.

4528
03:33:04.799 --> 03:33:07.559
So that's on any of the podcast things, YouTube everywhere.

4529
03:33:07.680 --> 03:33:10.559
You know how the internet works, The Homeless Conservative.

4530
03:33:10.600 --> 03:33:12.120
I should come out if you could listen to my show,

4531
03:33:12.159 --> 03:33:14.799
you could listen to Blake's for sure. It's easy enough,

4532
03:33:15.200 --> 03:33:23.920
all right, appreciate it tas your content field intention devils

4533
03:33:24.799 --> 03:33:25.959
higher redemption.

4534
03:33:26.360 --> 03:33:28.840
Hug stands on my get
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Blake Fischer hosts conversations about conservatism with friends, experts, and journalists. Blake considers himself to be a political junkie, and offers principled politics for exhausted citizens, without the populist outrage machine.