Oct. 19, 2024

43 - KERVIN AUCOIN - GEOPOLITICAL INTELLIGENCE EXPERT

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Kervin Aucoin joins me on the show. Kervin is a Geopolitical Intelligence expert. Kervin served in the U.S. Army, where he specialized in clandestine intelligence, working alongside Special Operations Forces. He spent most of his time in high-stakes regions which include Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Africa, and Poland. Kervin has dedicated his expertise to countering Russian disinformation and aggression. Kervin also has a vast knowledge of the delicate dynamics and conflict in the Middle East. His keen understanding of geopolitical trends and real-world intelligence operations continues to be an invaluable asset in the realm of security and global affairs.

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You are listening to a fonts media network, but.

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Like you just let me in my ways.

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Welcome home to the Blaze listeners. I'm excited to have Curvin. Sorry,

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I'm just gonna mispronounce it. Can you just pronounce it yourself?

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We keep going over that, Curvin O quick?

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All right, Curvin, Sorry to do that to you, but yeah.

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We could stick with first names. I'm good with that.

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Uh my my first my last name has gotten me

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in and out of trouble for for many years.

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So you and I were kind of introduced through John

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and another podcaster, and he's he's been around a while,

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but yeah, we got a little chat on next He's like, hey,

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you guys should actually get together and do an episode.

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So definitely wanted to thank him for that, and then

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I I started listening a little bit more to yours.

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Actually it was funny is I came across your podcast

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before that interaction on X and listen to you and

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your wife, and I thought it was interesting on how

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you're able to take so much information and kind of

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like just explain it in a way that people can grasp,

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you know, while not trying to be too over the

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top or you seem to be in the middle on

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most things. I noticed. You know, I'm not going to

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ask your political leaning so much. If you want to

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give it to me, great, But I do like I

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try to take a neutral position to really just explain

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what's going on then you know, letting people form their

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own opinions. So I really liked that. I thought that

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was cool because there's very few of those type of shows.

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I tried doing that in the beginning, but it got

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harder as time went on for me.

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Anyway, Well, the world makes it harder right to kind

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of try to stay neutral. But first of all, I

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want to say thank you for that, because that's the

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hope that I have that comes through and I get

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back last on both sides of the political isles. I'm

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not a very political person. I used to be when

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I was younger, and then I got disillusion to it,

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became very a political and started to do this sort

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of neutral thing that you're talking about, where something happens

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right in a certain side. I know, we'll get into

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Israel and the Middle East and what's going on there,

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and that's really highlighted this kind of divisiveness. Right, So

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if somebody says something about Israel in a positive aspect,

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and I push back in a negative not really a

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negative aspect, but just saying, well, to understand what the

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people in Gods or the people in Lebanon are going

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through right now. You know, they'll say, oh, you're you know,

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a left wing Hamas supporter, and then the same thing

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for Palestinian supporters. I will push back and say, well,

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Israel's the only Jewish nation, Jewish state, surrounded by Arab

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states that have been calling for the entire destruction of

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the Jewish people. I think they have a right to

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defend themselves, and so what they're doing, maybe they're carrying

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it out in the wrong way, but they have a

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right to do what they're doing. And then I get,

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you know, pushed back on on both sides of that.

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It's tough.

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Well, that's that's that's a particular topic. We're too hard

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to be neutral because there's such and we're talking about

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a land with so much history, I mean history in

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regard to you know, everybody argues that it's their land

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number one, no matter how far back to go, And

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a lot of people dismissed the fact that there were

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multiple people's displaced in that land and dispersed throughout the

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world and forced to do so, and then coming back

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to try to claim it again, and then it's there's

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just so much going on. Then from what I understand,

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I'm not and you can definitely correct me on this

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is it seems like a lot of it outside of

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the land is really centered around a faith or religious belief,

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and in the in the issue that I see is

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it's such a closely related belief, but there's always those

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little differences that just for some reason just lead to

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so much bloodshed and it almost makes you scratch or

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hit us and like, why can't they just shake hands

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and really get along? But I think it goes beyond that.

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It's really about the claim to the land and the

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fact that hey, you killed my ancestor, my grandfather, whatever,

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and then the revenge cycle just began and just never

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ended and kept going and going and going. And I

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might be slightly off on that, but.

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Now you're you're absolutely right.

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And it's and also we're talking about history, right, We're

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talking about ancient history, and so what ancient history do

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you actually believe? Because there is so much we know

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so little about our ancestors and the ancestral history. So

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do you trust biblical history? You know where Abraham started

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all of this. You know, he came from Er, which

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is a city south of Baghdad. You know, I deployed

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to Baghdad. If you take a plane and fly a

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mission around that area, you will see Er, one of

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the original settlements in the area. You and Abraham was

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supposed to have walked from there and entered what was then.

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You know, the people not even called the Jewish people

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of that time, but the tribes of Judah entered into

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Israel and they were told that God gave them this land.

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We're talking thousands of years ago and then more recently.

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And I say more recently, but we're still talking about

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a thousand years ago to fifteen hundred years ago. You've

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got a man in Mohammad who was a was a

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prophet or claimed to be a prophet, depending on how

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you and I always say it's depending on how you

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interpret the history. So he claimed to be a prophet,

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and by force he came in and claimed these lands

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for his own people. It's the people, the people of

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the Arab lands, and he claimed these lands. And so

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what you know, when people say, well, this is the

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land of the Palestinians or this is the land of

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the Israelis. How far are we going to go back?

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Right?

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That's always been kind of my take and stance on that.

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And I'll throw I'll throw them out there, and it says,

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you know, and I don't mind bringing up certain other

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personalities and podcasters only because some of these guys are

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very public and they're very openated. But you know, you

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take Dave Smith for example, who I do listen to

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and I respect because he's a pretty smart, intelligent person.

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He does read books, which is great, but it's a

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pretty hard line about you know, it's not Israel's land

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never you know, they were not there, and you know

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it was really Palestinian land, and you can't just drive

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them out and claim that you now have claimed to

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this land. And I get it, but I think I

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think even with him, and the problem with someone like

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Dave is he's super intelligent, but he'll never stop arguing

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until he feels he's right or he's bored of the

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conversation literally, and so he can go forever trying to

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argue that point. But I think when he makes a point,

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he deliberately omits that it was a tribal land that

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did belong to the then Jewish people at the time

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who were displaced. And you can say, hey, the land

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was conquered. Great, if we use that argument, then conquerors

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own and rule that land, just as we did in

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America here with the Native Americans, you know. And unfortunately,

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every country in the world has been developed and made

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and borders have been set based on being conquered. That

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that was just a bloody history of humanity, and that

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is exactly what happens, is just how the world was shaped, unfortunately.

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And the thing with the Jewish people from what I understand,

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from what I researched, and like again you can correct me,

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is they were displaced back then, you know, I mean,

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come on, the Ottoman Empire came in. They ruled most

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of the world back then, and they helped drive the

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Jews out. And at the time, the Palestines before they're

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considered Palestine, sided with the Ottoman Empire so that they

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can remain in the land and live in the land

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and support the Ottoman Empire. What do you think the

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native tribal Jewish people were going to do? Just forget

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about it, and they never did. And so there's that

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part of that history that nobody really talks about. Yeah.

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I mean, look, the Jewish people have been conquered their

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entire lifetime. Yes, right, the Egyptians brought them in, and

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we're learning more about that history because there was a

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brief time where historians thought, well, no, that wasn't Jewish

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people that the Egyptians brought in to Egypt to work

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and do certain things. And now we're finding out through

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certain tablets that have been and scrolls that have been found,

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that the words that they were using for the people

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that they brought in were the same words that were

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used for Jewish people throughout throughout history. And listen, the Romans.

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You know the Jewish people. Yes, it's a very tribal religion,

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but the tribes were there in Israel when Rome had

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their empire and they taxed the Jewish people, and it's

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written record. I mean, you can debate history in ancient history,

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but we have written record of the Jewish people living

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on that land being controlled by the Romans. Like you said,

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you're exactly right. The Ottoman Empire came in, they laid

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waste to that land. People had to either leave or surrender.

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Jewish people said they would not surrender. They left, and

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the Palestinian what are now the Palestinians or where the

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Palestinians then sort of broke her to deal and said,

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if we can just get this sort of land carved

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out right here, there's not really much in it, we'll

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stay here and we'll abide by your rules, which is

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really what the Jewish people said to the Romans. We'll

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abide by your rules, pay your taxes, and then you know,

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that'll be it. Then the Roman Empire started to put

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the fist down on the Jewish people. They had uprisings

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in the early first century, went to war with the Romans,

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and the Romans thought they could defeat them very easily,

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and the Israelis were able to push back on them. Now,

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the Palestinians didn't have to do that because they just understood, Hey,

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the Ottomans are going to let us live here and

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we're going to remain here. Now, if you want to

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go more recent history, and we talk about, you know,

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after World War two and the Holocaust, which was such

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a tragedy, and I want to put that out from

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the very beginning. What happened in the Holocaust and what

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is factually documented that US and British soldiers found as

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they got into the concentration camps was absolutely horrific, and

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millions of people died in World War Two. And so

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they understood that the Jewish people needed, they needed a place.

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They didn't want to go back to Europe. They didn't

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want to go back to their homes because there was

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still a large part of society that didn't want them there.

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You know, they were they were indoctrinated to hate these

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people for their religion, for where they came from. And

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so nations got together and decided, you know, apart from

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everyone else, right, they just said, hey, let's put these

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people back into what we think is the land that

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they deserve. They were put in that land, and immediately

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the Arab nations went to war with Israel because they

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didn't want the Jewish people there. And that I don't

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think that's something that gets highlighted a lot, especially among

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like pro Palestinian crowd, is that the Jewish people went

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there and they said, hey, we're going to live in

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this land, and we're just this is where we're going

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to be settled. They put us here, they were invaded.

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They went to war with places like Egypt and Lebanon

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and Syria, and they won those wars. And when you

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went to war, you get to decide what you're going

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to do, so they kept that land. Then the Palestinian

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question came up, what are we going to do with

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all these Palestinians because they don't want to be ruled

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by the Jewish people, so they need.

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Their own rule, their Arab rule.

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So the Palestinian people got their own government up, their

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own military. A two state solution was brought up. The

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Israelis agreed to the two state solution. The Palestinians and

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the other Arab nations said no, we want all of

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that land because it's our land. And so another war

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kicked off, and so we just have a cycle of wars.

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the other side, it's the israel The Israelis were put there,

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where do you want them to go? The Palestinians say,

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we've been here, where are you going to put us?

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going where are you going to put us? And I

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think if you just took the people and put them

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together and ask them, you know, do a little to

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do a meeting with everybody and say, hey, what do

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you guys think we'd probably find a solution. Our problem

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is we have governments who just don't like each other

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and don't care about the people who want to go

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to war, and they want to put down their fist

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and make this a complete victory for one side or another.

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Israel and Hamas. Right, Israel now has a choice, right

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because they just killed Yahya Sina Sinhwar. He's the leader

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of Hamas. Hamas is in shambles. There is a chance

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if you're a if you're part of the ceasefire, you're

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pro ceasefire in Palestine, that you can have a ceasefire.

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And Hamas is completely dismantled right now. That's something a

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lot of people said would never happen. And they're completely dismantled.

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And the Israelis could say, okay, let's do the sea.

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Spire Net Yahoo has just said if you release all

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the hostages, release all your arms, everything will be fine

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and we'll have a ceasefire. And the Hamas is saying,

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we don't trust you, we don't trust the Israel, we

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don't trust Israel. We don't trust the Jews, and they don't.

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You know, there's the history of not trusting the Israelis

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for right reasons. You know, they say one thing, some

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nen Yahoo especially says one thing and does another and

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and so Israel has a choice do they do. Do

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they try to broker that deal or do they do

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the knockout punch and say we'd because they've said their

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whole goal is the annihilation of Hamas, and so unless

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Hamas is completely annihilated, every single member is gone, they're

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not going to agree to a peace deal which is

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separate from a ceasefire, you know, a full peace deal

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that kind of sets boundaries. So that that's where we

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stand right now. And it's just god be a never

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ending cycle.

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It's the truth of It's kind of an unfortunate truth

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of the situation because the classic example of how the

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people suffer because governments disagree. You know, the problem is

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everybody in the world just wants to live, like literally live,

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you know, food, shelter, enjoy their life, and governments disagree

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and they pull everybody in with them. I mean, why

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can't we just put the leaders of every government in

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the ring and have them just find it out and

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then whoever walks out watch out right. I mean, it's ridiculous.

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I was going to go back to that two state

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solution though. That does come up a lot, and nobody

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can understand why it's unacceptable, and it's always put on

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the Palestinians. Really lately Hamas, who has the governing body

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so to speak, of the Palestinians, even though unofficial.

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just to argue the other side, that that agreement originally

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when it was put together or that proposal was kind

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of not equal to where I think it was sixty

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percent of the land or maybe more. I might be

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off on that. I think it was at least sixty

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percent really did go to the Jewish people or Israel

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as it is today, and less of it went to

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the Palestinian side. And also you know, cut off routes

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to you know, the access to the ports and everything

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as well. Yeah, and there's that side, and I can

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see that, but at the same time, you're correct, and

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we're like, yeah, no, it's all or nothing, you know,

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is their response, which is not really negotiating, you know,

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a deal, and I'm sure that they could have came

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to an agreement. But do you know, do you happen

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to know what? Because well I was reading your back

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when you sent me you were you were in intelligence

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right in the army. Is that correct? Yep? And so

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being that that was your career what you did, and

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you were deployed and you worked with uh special operations,

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is that also correct?

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Yes?

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Okay, So what what from your experience just being in

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the area and dealing with all this and just analyzing everything,

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and I think today you still are in intelligence correct,

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and in your own business.

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So yeah, my my company, Open Analytics is a private

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intelligence company that provides intelligence to the everyday consumer as

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opposed to your C suite and Fortune five hundred companies.

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So I've kind of cheapened, not say cheap, and I've

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lessened the price of intelligence for people. It's not cheapening

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this way to tell, it's more accessible. Yeah exactly.

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Yeah, Well, you know, being that's what you do, why why,

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in your opinion, does I don't know if it's all

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the person people or just just the governing bodies of

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the time, why are they denying any kind of deal

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when it could have been done. Yeah, it's and now

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it seems too far away for some reason. But at

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the time I think it could have been done.

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I think there was a chance. Even so before like

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October seventh of twenty twenty three changed the entire landscape

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of the Middle East. Before that, I think there could

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have been a two state solution. But there's another thing

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that I say, and then I'll answer that question. We're

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trying to fix Middle Eastern problems with Western solutions and you.

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Can't do that.

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That's exactly right.

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Yeah, we our ideals are very different from their ideals,

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and no one is right or wrong in that. It's

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just a certain culture. And and so I'm also an

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Arabic linguist, or was an Arabic linguist. I'd have to

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I'd have to think for a second to see how

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my language is now, but I haven't used it in

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quite a while. And with that, so I was at

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the Defense Language Institute learning Arabic. With that, I had

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to learn the the Arab culture and the religion of Islam,

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And I learned a lot about the Arab people and

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and the things that So before Islam even came about

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the Arab people were some of the smartest individuals in

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the world. They created mathematics and algebra, things of you know, poetry.

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Some of the great poems are great Arab poems, and

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so we have that in history of these great minds

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that focused a lot on this. And then not to

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disparage religion, and I don't do that. Every religion, I

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think has its pros and cons But as the religion

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of Islam you started to become widespread in the region,

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the leaders in that timeframe started to crack down on

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more education. And it's it's sort of like when you

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think of certain aspects of Christianity in history, where the

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Enlightenment period was kind of they wanted to crack down

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on it because the more you learn about the world

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and history and all of this stuff, it's possible that

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you're going to call out the religious leaders for certain

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things that they're saying that just don't make sense. And

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that happened and they lost a lot of their history

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and a lot of their education because of this. And

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so starting there, getting into right now, there is a

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trust issue between first of all the Arab community and

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the WA but more pervasively the Arab community and Jews.

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And I saw that during my education for Arabic. You know,

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we'd have to watch news every day in Arabic because

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you want to immerse yourself in the culture and kind

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of understand these level three four five dialogues that are

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going on. And so you watch a lot of even

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Al Jazeera in Arabic, not the English language version, but

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the Arabic, the Arab version, or a more conservative, i

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would say, or far right kind of Arab TV station

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like Memory Memory TV. It's sort of a far right.

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It closely aligns with like RT Sputnik TV. And I

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remember a moment where Egypt there was an earthquake in

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Egypt and I'm watching I can't remember if it was

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Al Jazeera or another news organization, but the headline that

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they kept going with that was that it was the Jews.

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The Jews created this earthquake to destroy parts of Egypt.

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And so this is major mainstream news in Arab countries

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that are being that's what's being promoted, and that's what

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you know, kids are seeing and families are seeing. And

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there's a history of that and a history of not trusting,

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not trusting Jewish people, not trusting America because the United

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States has done some terrible things to Arab communities, especially

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in the Middle East. Not going to deny that, and

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so we have a trust issue here.

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I think we can.

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Yeah. I always say, you know, I know what I

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did as far as in my time in uniform and

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my time working in the Middle East, and I had

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a lot of issues with what some other people were

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doing to Arab people just because they were Arab. You know,

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everybody's a terrorist. We had people coming in saying walking

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while Arab, and that's why we picked them up. And

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I was a human collector. I'm an intelligence analyst, and

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they said I was like, so why'd you get this guy?

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And he was like, he's Arab, He's got to be

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a terrorist. And it's like, no, that's that's not the

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right answer. Yeah, no, it wasn't everywhere, but these pockets, right,

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And so that's where the trust issue comes in.

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And it's so bad that so if you fly.

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Into Israel and let's say someone like myself, I have

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visas and stamps from countries like the uae, Iraq, Kuwait,

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all the Arab countries I go into Israel, they will

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first of all, tell me do you have another passport

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because they don't want to stamp that passport because if

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an Israeli stamp is on that passport, you're not allowed

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in another Arab country with that passport, and they will

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deny you.

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Not allowed in any of them.

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As far as I know now, the Gulf States and

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then Saudi Arabia might be a little bit different. But

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go into a place like Kuwait or Iran, God forbid,

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at this point, you know you'd be you'd be rolled

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up and questioned and interrogated. That's not true for for

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Israel if you go in now. Israel does so something

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we don't do in the US because it's it's probably

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rightfully considered racist or you know, sexist or whatever. Is

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We don't target individuals based on the way that they look.

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The Israelis do. They will.

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They're heavily profiling individuals.

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Yes, they so they profile they're with in the UK

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is CCTV or surveillance cameras and stuff. They are heavily

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watching people that they know and listen. They're in the

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culture all the time. So they see a person and

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they can tell you this person's from Iraq, this person's

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from Iran or Syria, and and they're they're targeting and

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profiling these people based just off of what they love,

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and then they go and question them, and then further

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dialogue happens whether they'll release them and send them along

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on their way or they'll send them to secondary questioning.

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So there's a difference there. I would say Israelis really

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don't trust the Arab community, really, but there's a little

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more trust to that. And for all the conversation about

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Hamas controlling Gaza and that's the government and the military

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wing of Gaza in Palestine, Israel actually supports a lot

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of the infrastructure in Gaza. That also causes problems because

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if you have a trust issue, every rolling blackout is

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Israel's fault, Every collapsed building is Israel's fault. The fact

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that no one can work their way up in life

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and that they're poor, that's Israel's fault. And then on

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the Israeli side, every time there's an Arab strike, that's

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the fault to the Arab community. And so that's why

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I go back to fixing Middle Eastern problems with Western solutions.

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We would see that and go, we'll just stop it, right,

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you're human, like have a conversation with each other, and

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they would go no, because when Abraham did this, it

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started a process, a historical process that got us to

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where we are today. And we cannot stop that.

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Yeah, we cannot forget it, and we're not going to

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let it stand. And the whole thing. There's a lot

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I want to go back to in that. But when

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you were when you were talking about how Israel actually

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supported a lot of the infrastructure in Gaza, You're right.

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I don't think people realize that, like power, water, and

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they would always point the Hamas, I believe, would always

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point the finger, Oh, look, you know we don't have

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water because they're shutting it off on us, or you know, they're,

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like you said, killing our electricity. Maybe something that's true.

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It could be what they were using try to control

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and you know, stifle whatever was going on with Hamas

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and what they were trying to do in terms of

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trying to attack Israel. But I'm not gonna I'm not

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I can't sit here and except that Israel is innocent

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in all of us, I'm not saying that's what you're

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00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.039
saying at all. By the way, I'm just making a statement.

463
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:21.839
I don't I don't believe they're innocent in all of

464
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.519
this at all either. And I understand you know, the

465
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:27.400
long history and how they were mad as a people

466
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.920
being driven out of land and you know, dispersed, and

467
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.119
then you know they were they were persecuted by the

468
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.079
Pagrums years years ago and being hunted and literally killed

469
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.680
on the street, like basically like you said with profiling,

470
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:43.279
they would see, uh, a Jewish person and literally hang them,

471
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:47.359
hang them in the street, you know, and uh, they've

472
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:49.920
they've gone through a lot, but I think a lot

473
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.400
of everyone in the Middle East has has gone through

474
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.279
so much because it's like it's just it's just constantly

475
00:26:55.400 --> 00:27:00.640
just a crazy circular vehicle of of of seems like

476
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.720
just hatred, to be quite honest. And we don't understand

477
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:05.440
it though, like you said, as Westerners, we can't get

478
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.920
her head around why like why can't we move past?

479
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.400
Why can't we why can't we get around I think

480
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.519
I think the biggest thing that needs to be defined though,

481
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.279
because everybody seems to, at least the western side of

482
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:21.240
the world, seems to equate terrorism with Islam. I would

483
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.920
love to know if it can truly be explained the

484
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.359
difference between Muslims, you know, people of the Islamic faith

485
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.440
because I'm kind of confused in where I see, you know,

486
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.640
as a Westerner that you know, a woman can't show

487
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.279
herself be full. They closed the whole deal stone of death.

488
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.599
Then you see other Muslims where they're just on Instagram

489
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.319
and you know, and whatnot, and just yeah, I'm confused.

490
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.519
It's like, wait a minute, which is it, do you so?

491
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.920
Terrorism? Yeah?

492
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.880
So, terrorism, I would say, first of all, is not

493
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.880
just It's not a Muslim issue or an Arab issue. Right,

494
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:58.920
We've got Eastern European and terrorists. We've got homegrown terrorists

495
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:02.440
in our own country on on the right and the left,

496
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.319
so far right and far left, And so I would

497
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:12.160
break it down for a Western audience much like evangelicalism

498
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:16.720
in the United States. What I mean there is you see,

499
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.960
so you go if you go to let's say you're

500
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.039
in Seattle, Washington, and you go to a church in Seattle, Washington,

501
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.720
and you're probably gonna see flip flop shorts, women, maybe

502
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:34.039
not dressed provocatively, but regular, normal, normal dress. Right, if

503
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:38.920
you go to maybe a evangelical church in Missouri or

504
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.000
where I'm originally from in Louisiana and especially in the

505
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:48.400
northern Louisiana area, you may see a more a church

506
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:53.559
that's more aligned with purity laws. Pentecostal. You'll see dresses.

507
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.559
Women can only wear dresses. Men have to wear this

508
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.119
this certain thing. So and so that's an stream view

509
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:05.079
of a particular religion, and I think that's what's pervasive

510
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.960
in the Muslim religion, the religion of Islam. So when

511
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:13.039
people say, well, Islam is a peaceful religion, and for

512
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.000
the most part it is, did it always start that way?

513
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.039
If you read the history of Muhammad, it did not.

514
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.599
I mean he was he was basically a war lord.

515
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.839
I'll get a lot of flag from the Arab community

516
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.599
for that because he's the prophet Mohammad, you know, peace

517
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.599
be upon him, But he really was. He decided at

518
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:34.279
a very early age that he was going to take

519
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.480
over and create this religion, become the prophet, and he

520
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:44.400
went to war with other nations in order to spread Islam.

521
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.559
And the whole point was in the whole point of jihad,

522
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.960
if you hear jihad, which is just holy war, is

523
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.440
that Islam is the only religion. So from an extremist

524
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:57.119
point of view, Islam is the only religion that should

525
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:01.440
be allowed and in if that's true, then we have

526
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.759
to fight in order to make Islam the only And

527
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:09.799
that's that's why the Muslim you know, Islam very early

528
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:14.440
they fought the Spaniards who were Catholics. They took over Constantinople,

529
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.440
made it Istanbul. So they conquered a lot of the area,

530
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.680
a lot of that region in order to spread the religion.

531
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.920
And so that's part of it. Especially so if you're

532
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.200
talking about the US, the United States, we talk a lot,

533
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.400
especially right now, because you can't talk about Donald Trump

534
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.359
and Kamala Harris without talking about being far left woke

535
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:46.440
person or a far right Christian nationalist. And people are

536
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:51.039
very scared about Christian nationalists because they are viewing that

537
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.640
in some points rightfully so as what's happening in Islam. Right, So,

538
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:01.319
there is a far right sect of is that's isis,

539
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.680
that's al Kaied, the that's that's Hamas and Isbellah and

540
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.680
the IRGC, which is the umbrella, that's the peak to

541
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.920
the umbrella of all of this. And so it is

542
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.920
a select group of extremists that are making the most

543
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:23.200
amount of noise. So I wouldn't say, especially in the

544
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:28.720
United States. And I've met tons of Muslim people within

545
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.079
the United States, and no one that I know is

546
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.039
an extremist there. And that's usually true because they kind

547
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.400
of try to hide, hide in plane site and they

548
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.640
probably would not interact with me on most occasions. But

549
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:47.039
for the most part, every Muslim I meet is just

550
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.759
a man, woman, or a child trying to make it

551
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.880
in America. And so the their view is, yeah, I'm

552
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.119
a Muslim, but I am also an American and I'm

553
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.319
here to be a part of this community.

554
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.240
Are you. I think I think most people have a

555
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:08.880
problem separating the fact that they're they're extremes. And you know,

556
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.039
we can even just take take the Christian Bible. You'll

557
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.119
have you'll have You'll have some denominations of Christianity or

558
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.160
or believers for example, that just believe the Old Testament,

559
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.519
you know, I for and eye that whole bit. Yeah,

560
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.599
and then there's the New Testament believers that are like, hey,

561
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.319
you know, that was the past, that was a history

562
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.599
that has written. Those are the lass set. But the

563
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.519
world changes and here we are now, and this is

564
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.640
how we have to move forward as a people. And

565
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.119
we're nicer and we're forgiving, right, I think that's the

566
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.519
same thing with with Islam. I personally need to do

567
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.559
more research on it, and I've always wanted to just

568
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.359
I just don't have the time right now, but I

569
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.119
really need to dive into it because I want to

570
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.440
understand why, why, there's why, there's just you know, all

571
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.880
we see is the bat and right away it's like

572
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.759
we don't need that here regardless. But then you know,

573
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.400
like I've met many people who are Muslim and it's

574
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.400
like they don't live that way, that's not their believe

575
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.680
Are they reading from the same book? That's my question,

576
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:04.480
you know, like I don't know, I don't know.

577
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.480
They are reading. So they're reading from the same book, right,

578
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.039
the Qoran. But it's all about interpretation. Yeah, and look,

579
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.400
Christians read, we're reading from the same Bibles. We because listen,

580
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.079
we're in the West. It's the majority Christian reading from

581
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.319
the same Bible. Why do we have so many different

582
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:31.160
sects of Christianity because we've all interpreted different ways. You know,

583
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.599
the best way to interpret it is to go so

584
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.640
there are two ways, not two ways. You've got a

585
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.680
couple two things together. When you're reading ancient texts, especially

586
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.480
like the Bible, and the Qoran. First, you've got to

587
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.839
read it in its own language, and that's very difficult.

588
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.839
Some of the languages like Aramaic, not many people can

589
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.200
can read that. There's very few studiers of Aramic or

590
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:58.480
Greek or or you know, the ancient Hebrew. So you've

591
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.920
first got to read it in the langue which of

592
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.119
that it was written in. But it's not just that,

593
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.279
you've also got to understand the time that it was

594
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:12.719
written in. So when was this written and why was

595
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:16.239
it written at that point. If you don't understand that,

596
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.159
you can read a text out of context and say, oh,

597
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.679
that's that's really what they mean, and then you understand time.

598
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.840
Period is the big context issue though, right.

599
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.320
Yeah, and but we go back to we don't we've

600
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.320
lost so much of our history over time. Yes, we have,

601
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.440
you know, not to bring a Kamala Harris line in,

602
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.440
but the passage of time is the passage of time.

603
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.119
Every year that we are removed from those historical points,

604
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.400
we we lose what actually happens, so we lose context

605
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.320
of the text that we are reading, you know. It's

606
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.800
it's why stoicism right now is so pervasive, is because

607
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.719
especially among young men, because I think that, Okay, it's

608
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:03.480
it's language. It's written in a language that some people

609
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:07.719
can can be trained on and understand and read and

610
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:14.400
translate it correctly into English. But those Stoics wrote so

611
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.280
much about the history of their time that we understand

612
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.559
almost everything about what was going on in that timeframe.

613
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:26.199
We've lost bits and pieces, But you talk Marcus Aurelius,

614
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:30.159
we can probably go through his entire lifetime and understand

615
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.159
the wars that he was a part of the history

616
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:38.400
of his family because they were very they wrote a

617
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.039
lot about it. Now the Hebrew people or the Jewish

618
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.960
people did the exact same thing. The problem goes back

619
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.960
to being conquered. A lot of the ancient texts were destroyed. Yeah,

620
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:55.559
you've got the look at the Library of Alexandria right

621
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.480
in Egypt that was destroyed, that had anything.

622
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.920
Who knows it? Yeah, who knows? I mean I think

623
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.239
about that sometimes, honestly, when you when when you when

624
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.199
you talk about people being conquered over the years, and

625
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.639
how the conqueror would suddenly be like, I don't need

626
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.039
your history or your bullshit. I'm just wiping it out

627
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.719
and it's all about me now and my people and

628
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.840
it's like you lose so much, so much, you know,

629
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.639
it's it's almost like I can say, I know, I'm

630
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.960
getting away from what we're originally discussed. Was kind of

631
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.719
I kind of believe, I kind of believe in the

632
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.920
fact that, well it's not a fact, but I believe,

633
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.079
my opinion anyway, that civilization over time has probably peaked

634
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.599
and and has has gone the way of being technologically

635
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.880
advanced in different forms and then wiped out and rebuilt

636
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:46.960
over time, because it seems like almost every year, especially recently,

637
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.519
it's it's getting they're uncovering more and more of that, like,

638
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.800
wait a minute, how did this happen? And then as

639
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.880
you said, you know, like the Library of Alexandra, you know,

640
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.159
how it was like burn done gone. Who knows what

641
00:36:58.280 --> 00:36:59.800
was there that could have probably explained a lot of

642
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.280
what we're seeing when we're when we're finding these new

643
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.960
artifacts and whatnot. I think, I think the abolition of

644
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.199
knowledge is horrible, and that's probably one of the worst

645
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.599
things you could do in humanity in my opinion, you know, well,

646
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.159
outside of torturing and you know, may mean, you know,

647
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.280
causing holocausts against you know, fellow man, but still that's

648
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.559
one thing that I've always hated and and it really

649
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.960
just causes confusion and hatred for no reason, because then

650
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:32.639
we lose understanding and like you said, context.

651
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:37.440
Yeah, and I have gone. Every year I have it,

652
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.559
I get closer to the opinion that you know there

653
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:43.039
were ancient there's a first of all, there's ancient civilizations

654
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.360
that we've never heard of. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

655
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:49.800
I'm very much, like you said, a moderate intelligence I'm

656
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.760
an intelligence analyst. I try to figure out what's going on,

657
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.599
but within that, I take information and try to assess

658
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.760
what actually happened or what is going to happen. And

659
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.920
the more I read about history, there are ancient cultures

660
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.840
that we have no idea who they are and what

661
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.480
sort of technologies that they have. And I see how

662
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.320
we're using technology right now, and I could very much

663
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.800
be far off. But I have fun with this. It's

664
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.920
something that really helps my mental health a lot because

665
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.119
I can research into this stuff and I'm not I'm

666
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.800
not married to it, so if I'm wrong, who cares?

667
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.840
It was just fun to research it. But the more

668
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:35.559
technology we get, the closer we get to wanting to

669
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.920
go back to those ancient times, and we see it

670
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.760
all the time. I'm on X, you're on X, Instagram,

671
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.719
all these things, and every day it's like, why do

672
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.000
I even do this? Don't why don't I pick up

673
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.880
a book or a newspaper. Let's go back to newspapers,

674
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.320
let's let's help go back my wife. All the time,

675
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.559
I feel like every year I just keep getting dumber

676
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.039
and dumber. Yeah, I mean I used to be very,

677
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.719
very studious and just reading and just soaking. I mean

678
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:01.360
I was out a point.

679
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.599
I'd be reading a five six hundred page novel whatever,

680
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.119
and I'm done in a few hours. And now I

681
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.559
fall asleep if I write to read a book, you.

682
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.360
Know, And there is a huge difference too, because you

683
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.559
could read the same amount of words in a day

684
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.280
through news articles or posts on Instagram and Twitter. But

685
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.760
for the most part, a book, a novel, or a

686
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:33.119
historical text is supposed to be completely researched, backed by editors, true,

687
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.519
backed by historical documents, and it's not allowed to be

688
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.840
released until every until you're sourced out every single thing.

689
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.239
A post on X is just a post on X,

690
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.639
and it could be four pages long. Now, if you

691
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.239
have a blue check Mark. You can write as many

692
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.039
words as you want and it could be the dumbest

693
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.559
thing you've ever read. And the problem is a lot

694
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.679
of times, and it happens to me as well. If

695
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.719
it aligns with your worldview, you're going to keep reading

696
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.679
it and it's gonna infuriate you from time to time

697
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.960
because you're going to go, I knew that that that's

698
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.639
what they were going to be doing. I knew that's

699
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.159
what's going to happen. And this guy, this girl, this

700
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.320
whatever is saying would I say it? I'm not saying

701
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:15.000
whatever in the context in a negative context. I'm just saying,

702
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.559
whoever it is it's posting it that agrees with you.

703
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.239
You're going to read everything and you're going to go,

704
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.679
that person's right. Anybody who's in the comment saying they're wrong,

705
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.000
those people are wrong.

706
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:27.639
Well, everybody likes affirmation in their belief They want to

707
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.320
be they want to feel that that that what they

708
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.840
believe is correct, and they want that reinforcement. And the

709
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.119
problem is, now we start creating these echo chambers for

710
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:41.159
ourselves because we feel comfortable in our beliefs. I gotta

711
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.639
step back and question myself sometimes, where you know, I

712
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.559
just start doom scrolling. You're just like and after a

713
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.400
while I'm like, wait a minute, what's the other perspective,

714
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.360
what's the other side saying about this? You know, you

715
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.280
got to be able to break yourself free. But it

716
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.360
was it's funny what you said about about that, because,

717
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.199
as you said, you know, books, novels, articles us to

718
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.079
be fact check. You couldn't release them until they were

719
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.719
they were cited. You knew exactly where the information came from.

720
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.960
I came across this. It's been said before, but Jay

721
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.599
Van I think is Babel or Babel PhD. He put

722
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.599
a post out there. I want to read it because

723
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:19.039
this is totally relevant. He's talking about how social media

724
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.199
distorts perceptions of normser point one percent of users share

725
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.280
eighty percent of fake news, yea, which is a tiny

726
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:27.840
portion of bad actors. You saw that, right, Yeah, and

727
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.239
it has this whole article. I didn't go into the

728
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.199
whole thing yet, but it's it's so true. It's a

729
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:37.280
tiny percent is just viewing all the nonsensical bullshit. And

730
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.440
the thing is with social media, like, let me get

731
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.920
back to civilization real quick, because it's going to tie

732
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:44.920
into what I'm trying to say The point I'm trying

733
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.679
to tick across is that I feel for advance as

734
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.159
we are now, I don't think we're as advance as

735
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.679
we've ever been. And I'm not sure if that makes

736
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.480
any sense to you. But you know, just because we

737
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.159
have an iPhone doesn't mean we're you know, far in

738
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.920
a way from where we could have actually possibly been

739
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:10.239
as a species. Absolutely, And the thing that I see

740
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.039
with social media is it's nice. I'm just social media.

741
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.079
Let's just say, just having the World Wide Web at

742
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.960
your fingertips is all about access. But the problem is

743
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.360
you can't. It's hard to filter true information versus false information,

744
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.679
or information that might not be completely false but done

745
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.920
in a way to guide you and manipulate you to

746
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.639
fall on either side of the aisle, so to speak.

747
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.039
And I think that's a big issue, and it's really

748
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.800
hard to especially these days, it's so hard to decipher

749
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.199
what is right what is wrong. I always say sometimes

750
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.039
on my show, to be quite honest, is you know,

751
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.199
I usually like to give all the facts and say

752
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:48.679
here's where I got it from. But there's times where

753
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.440
I'm like, you know, what, do your own research If

754
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.159
you don't believe that what I'm saying is correct, and

755
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.320
prove me wrong. Go find it, you know, because I

756
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:57.960
think it's important for people to start to be that

757
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.400
type of person where you start to question, go, hold on,

758
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.599
is this guy saying the truth or is he just

759
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:06.599
speaking out of his ass here? And I think everybody

760
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.079
should start to start to do that, get back to

761
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.159
actually fact checking for themselves and not just believe the

762
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:13.039
first thing you read.

763
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.079
Yeah, and you've got people.

764
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:15.440
You know.

765
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.719
There was a show on ESPN a while back called

766
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.880
Numbers Never Lie, And as an intelligence analyst, I can

767
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:26.480
tell you that that's false. Numbers numbers can lie. You

768
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:30.199
can manipulate data to make it say what you want

769
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.760
it to say. And I say that listen the So

770
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.559
the FBI just came out, So they came out a

771
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:40.159
month or two ago saying that extreme crime was down

772
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:45.199
a certain percent, right, familiar. They just changed that recently

773
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:48.639
in the last week that it's actually up by four

774
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.280
point eight percent. So they and the way this all

775
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.320
came about was that I believe it's the Institute of

776
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.679
Criminal Justice Studies had they do their own data, and

777
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.960
they were actually saying that violent crime is on the

778
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.679
rise in the United States, has been on the rise

779
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:11.599
since twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, it increased year

780
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.960
over or twenty twenty three, it increased year over year

781
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:15.719
from twenty twenty four and twenty twenty four. Is on

782
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.800
the same trajectory. And then the FBI released and said no, actually,

783
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.599
it's it's going down. And they both used different types

784
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.119
of They use the same data, but they also use

785
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.440
different pieces of data that they can collect. There's a

786
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:34.239
lot of pushback to the FBI saying, you're saying it's down.

787
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.440
I'm witnessing with my own eyes certain things that kind

788
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.559
of tell me that it's up. So you know what,

789
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.519
say you? And so now with all that pushback to

790
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.880
the FBI tried to quietly push out, no, you know

791
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:52.639
it really is. We read, we redid the data, and

792
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:56.559
it the numbers are actually up by four point eight percent. So, yes,

793
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.760
data can lie as long as you can manipulate it

794
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:00.519
in a certain way.

795
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.400
Well, was that manipulation or suppression of information from the

796
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:03.719
get go?

797
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.920
Well, so the FBI would tell you they didn't have

798
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:11.719
all the data that they needed in order make the assessment,

799
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.760
and I tell that to people when I'm doing my assessment.

800
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.360
So if somebody asked me, can you do an intelligence

801
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.239
product and assess a certain thing.

802
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.599
I've done for.

803
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.079
Cross border with Ukrainian people, getting them to safety. I've

804
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:32.119
put out some products for nonprofits to help them move

805
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:34.800
out there. And at the end it will always say

806
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.960
all this is all the data that I have, and

807
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.880
new data may change my assessment, and that's part of

808
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:47.960
the intelligence cycle. The last part is it used to

809
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:54.440
be just called dissemination, but it's always dissemination and reevaluate.

810
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:58.280
So give it to the customer, but continue to evaluate

811
00:45:58.480 --> 00:45:59.159
what's going on.

812
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:03.119
Okay, So not disagreeing with you because this is what

813
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.519
you do, so I can't. I mean, you're at the experts,

814
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:10.000
not me in this, but I agree in the state

815
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.840
in that in that statement, and you know, hey, this

816
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.840
is based on basically you're saying, this is based on

817
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.599
the information at hand, which is the only way that

818
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.960
you can can give information making assessment on what's going

819
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.199
on your your your conclusion is only as good as

820
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.639
the info that you have understood. But are we to

821
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.880
believe the FBI really didn't have the information?

822
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:34.800
No, I mean they did an organization.

823
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.239
Maybe they didn't have it, they had access, they have

824
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.719
access to it. It's the FBI, it's the Federal Bureau

825
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.440
of an Investigation. If they tell a police force that

826
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.719
they need the data, the police force is going to

827
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.360
give them the data. I didn't work in the FBI

828
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.840
or on the police force, so I don't know sort

829
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.519
of the doctrine that.

830
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.199
Or how that works, how they interact.

831
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.719
Yeah, so there could be, like I said, I don't

832
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.679
know this, so I'm just going to say this as

833
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:08.360
a blanket statement. They there could be requirements that if

834
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.360
the FBI reaches out, the police force has to give

835
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:15.880
up that information, so that that would then mean the

836
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.360
FBI didn't go out searching for that stuff, and their

837
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.360
blanket statement would be, well, we just didn't have access

838
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.559
to it. You have access to everything. You're you're the FBI.

839
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.719
It's like the CIA saying we didn't have access to

840
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.920
the intelligence. Yeah you did, right, you're read on everything

841
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:32.840
you have need to know.

842
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:34.960
Yeah, what don't they know?

843
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.000
Right, that's what we're trying to figure out.

844
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:42.960
Right, Well let's let's uh, we kind of went went

845
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.440
veered off. Yeah, but that's fine. You know, I I'll

846
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.760
sometimes I'll do that because I have my mind. Just

847
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.400
my wife will tell you she thinks I have add

848
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.239
but it just never stops, and I'll say, hey, wait

849
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:52.599
a minute.

850
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.480
You know, so I think there should be a study.

851
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.000
I think our whole generation, uh we just go we

852
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.599
have ADHD. It's like there's probably a reason for that.

853
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.039
Oh on how we were brought up.

854
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.159
Now we're gonna get go down a different roads if

855
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.280
we keep talking about that, and then I'll just start going

856
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.519
into the food. But anyway, well, I was going to

857
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:16.199
try to get back to Israel. So here's my question,

858
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.280
because you helped establish the history and you gave us

859
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.559
a lot based on your knowledge and your experience from

860
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.159
the area in which you did in the military and

861
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:29.639
and intelligence and analyzing all that data. But fast forward,

862
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.079
I believe Israel had a right to respond. Any country

863
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:37.320
should respond the way they were attacked on that October seventh, okay,

864
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:41.480
last year twenty three. So do you think at this

865
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.880
time though, are they going too far or are they

866
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.639
not going far enough? Or what does your opinion on it?

867
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.039
I mean, at some point when do you have to say,

868
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.880
you know what you kind of you kind of proved

869
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:57.039
your point, or is it correct for them to believe

870
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:03.800
in the total destruct and extermination of not the Palestine

871
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.679
is by the I don't think that's their end game here. Obviously,

872
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:08.960
they want to get rid of Hamas has blow any

873
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.920
anyone they consider a terrorist to their state. So do

874
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.599
you think they're going too far? Or do you think

875
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:17.519
they're approaching this rationally as any other nation would.

876
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.679
I So, all right, this is my opinion. Okay, I

877
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.599
just want to I do that on the podcast as well.

878
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.719
When I'm going to give my opinion on something, I

879
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.920
want to state it. And that's a point where if

880
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.119
you as an individual listening, can hear my opinion and

881
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.199
then you can go research the facts and form your

882
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:41.039
own opinion off of that. I will say, so, this

883
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:46.480
is what Israel did immediately after October seventh is and

884
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:48.480
I'm going to say this. I'm not a supporter of

885
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:50.800
Russia and what they did in Ukraine, but from a

886
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:55.559
military standpoint, they did what Russia should have done if

887
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.559
they really wanted to take Ukraine, which is what I

888
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.000
what the US is called with the US did in

889
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.360
Iraq and Afghanistan, which is shock and awe, Okay, you

890
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.320
do shock and all. That's what Israel did. The problem

891
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.679
that I have is that they're still doing it they're

892
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.360
still taking and they go, well, we can't go in

893
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.320
because of the tunnels. And I understand that. You it's

894
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:18.320
a tough decision for a commander on the ground to

895
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.679
make to tell his forces you're going to go in

896
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.239
this tunnel. There could be twenty Hamas fighters in there,

897
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.760
and those Hammas fighters have the advantage because they know

898
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.639
you're coming, they can hear you. You don't know where

899
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.760
they're at, where they're at, and they know exactly where

900
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:36.119
you're at. So you're sending those troops to die, so

901
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.480
they couldn't do that. You can do a ground war

902
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.840
in Gaza, I believe. Like I said, it's my opinion,

903
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.920
once the shock and all was over with, you can

904
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.440
send troops into Gaza and go just like the US

905
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:56.960
military did, door to door, house to house and root

906
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:02.000
out those individuals. Now, the problem that the US military

907
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.880
had was, if you remember, George W. Bush went on

908
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:11.079
the aircraft carrier and put mission accomplished back in two

909
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.480
thousand and five or two thousand and.

910
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:14.280
Six, I believe.

911
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.679
I believe so in Iraq you said mission accomplished, and

912
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:19.400
he got a lot of flak for that. It was

913
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.599
two thousand and five because there was an election prop

914
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.880
the election process was going on, and he got a

915
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:26.000
lot of flak for that. The truth of the matter

916
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.760
is it was true. Mission was accomplished. We got Saddam usin.

917
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.719
We crippled the entire Saddam government. Had the US left

918
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.039
and told Iraq, hey, this is now yours, you do

919
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.400
with it what you want, we'd probably still be in

920
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.119
the same situation we are now, but we would have

921
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.599
lost a lot less US troops. What happened was we said,

922
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:51.719
the international communities going to call us bullies and they're

923
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:55.400
going to hate us if we don't do peacekeeping in

924
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:56.079
this region.

925
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.159
So with that, do you think the US felt all

926
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.039
it was like obligatory for them to stay there.

927
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:08.280
Absolutely, And then you know that's the al Qaeda uprising

928
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:14.159
started and a lot of Iranian proxies popped up in

929
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.440
Iraq just based on the fact that US troops were

930
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.639
staying there, and so the people of Iraq very disillusion

931
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:26.039
to US troops as the war went on because of

932
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.400
things that I've mentioned before, walking while Arab and having

933
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.880
certain people in US military uniforms. Look, the Abu Gharab

934
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:38.800
prison pictures came out showing that we put in US

935
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:43.079
interrogators put Iraqis that were in prison on top of

936
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.880
each other and stripped them of their clothes and took

937
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.519
pictures with them and did all of these despicable things.

938
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.239
All of that would never have happened. We would have

939
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.199
just left and said, this is now your country. You

940
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.880
formed the government do whatever. What we wanted to do

941
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:02.760
was force them to start a government that's pro us

942
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:08.280
so that we can influence Middle East operations, that's oil,

943
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.239
that's you know, other services and goods.

944
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.800
Tried that time and time again, and it never and

945
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:18.079
it failed, never works because that just because like you said,

946
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:20.840
Western view versus you know, Eastern view.

947
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.440
Now, Israel is more attuned to Middle Eastern society, right,

948
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:31.000
so they understand this. But to just keep it is

949
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:34.960
it is targeted, right, the destruction of buildings because a

950
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.800
terrorist is inside of it, that's targeted. But there are

951
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.679
also families in there. Well, those families are dying, and

952
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.239
you're creating new terrorists. Every time that happened.

953
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.800
Absolutely, every time someone's father or brother dies, you know,

954
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.639
another one will uprise, uprises or rises up to take

955
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.639
their place. And I hear what you're saying. You know,

956
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:59.199
I personally think enough enough, enough is enough. But I

957
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.039
know I'm so sometimes I'm fumbling.

958
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.000
Well, it's been a lot where I want to I've

959
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:06.679
been thinking about this in like a football analogy, like

960
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:07.679
American football.

961
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:08.400
You know.

962
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:11.480
So I'm a Saints fan. That's not good this year, but.

963
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.360
I've watched Actually I'm liking what the Saints have been doing.

964
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:20.079
I've been supporting them, you know. Ever good, So yeah,

965
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.119
we're definitely watching them as one of our teams this year,

966
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.679
for sure. Good deal.

967
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:27.760
I just I know, I've sat down so many times

968
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.719
and watched a game and seeing a team be up

969
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:36.000
forty to fourteen in the by halftime, right, and that's

970
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:40.360
the arbitrary number or whatever, And then I go check

971
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:42.119
the score at the end and it was forty two

972
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.280
to forty, and you go, what happened? It was like, well,

973
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.320
they had their foot on the throat and they took

974
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.880
it off and they decided to let the other team

975
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.159
come back. Now that analogy does not speak anything to

976
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.679
the humanitarian crisis or anything like that. It might be

977
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:03.400
sort of a dumb down analogy. But what I'm trying

978
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.599
to get to here is Israel can take their foot

979
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:11.360
off the throat of Hamas. Hamas is going to re establish, reorganize,

980
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:15.639
and get bigger. That's what Israel thinks. So that's where

981
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.239
it comes into you have to annihilate.

982
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.920
I can't blame that way of thinking, though. I mean, realistically,

983
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:25.480
I think that Israel has gotten to the point with

984
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.440
all of this that they're like, you know what, screw this,

985
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.760
we this time, let's just really end it. And that's

986
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.320
they're trying to do. People don't like it because it's

987
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.400
messy and it's warning. It is what it is. Unfortunately,

988
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:41.920
you know, innocence die. But Israel also approached it very

989
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.719
messy from the get go by just targeting towns, villages

990
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:47.679
and cities and saying, oh, well, you know their tunnel

991
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:50.239
underneath and we couldn't decipher who was who, which, to

992
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.920
be honest, was bullshit, you know, and they made it

993
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:58.719
very evident when they were able to suddenly blow people's

994
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.360
pagers up, Well, that seems pretty precise and you know

995
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:04.960
to me. And and so now after that, I think

996
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:08.840
that there they've been better at targeting exactly who they

997
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:13.119
want to go after. But you know, how do you

998
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.719
how do you explain them, you know, going ahead and

999
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.239
just telling you know, NATO memory, and I know they're

1000
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:22.960
not a NATO nation, but you know members of NATO

1001
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.519
who are also allies of the US like, hey, screw you,

1002
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:26.760
I don't care what you say. We don't need you.

1003
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:30.199
We're gonna do what we want. They blew up that

1004
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.000
French gas company, well company, I believe, whatever it was,

1005
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:39.320
and France didn't respond, you know, not militarily anyway, They

1006
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:40.760
were stern to say, hey, we're no longer going to

1007
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:44.079
support you, and then Israel just raises their middle fingers like, well,

1008
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.320
we don't need you. At what point is Israel not

1009
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.960
going like they're not realizing I'm not saying they don't

1010
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.880
have a right to what they're doing because we went

1011
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.239
after bin Laden, we didn't care. We went after everybody

1012
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:58.360
we wanted to go after, and that's what Israel's doing.

1013
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.760
But at what point does Israel or net net to

1014
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:05.719
Yahoo not take a step back and go while we

1015
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.760
are doing what we have to do, what are the

1016
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:11.920
consequences of this with everybody else in the world. All

1017
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:15.119
it takes us for them to do the wrong thing

1018
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:19.119
and get one of the NATO members involved because they

1019
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.440
have to, and then we're in a very messy situation

1020
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.440
with Article five, right.

1021
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.880
And yeah, if so, what's your host five?

1022
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.159
Like you mentioned, is is the NATO article that says,

1023
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.159
if one NATO nation is attacked, all NATO nations have

1024
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.079
been attacked and they have to come to the defense

1025
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:39.079
of that one NATO nation. Article five has only been

1026
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:43.960
invoked once, and that is after nine to eleven. So

1027
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:48.840
the United States was attacked for nine to eleven, all

1028
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:51.679
the NATO nations came together. The Iraq War was not

1029
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.079
a NATO war. We had NATO nations that did not

1030
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.280
decide to go with us on that. But here's what

1031
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:04.079
I'll say, Yeah, so sorry. Here Here's what I'll say

1032
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:11.000
about the Israel conundrum is that at some point, and

1033
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:13.199
you asked, and I don't know if I said definitive

1034
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:17.000
you you asked if I thought they've gone too far definitively.

1035
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.039
What I will say is, at points they have gone

1036
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:25.599
too far. In my opinion, the nations that are supplying

1037
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:30.280
goods and services militarily to Israel, the United States being

1038
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.400
the key one there, is going to have to decide

1039
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:38.639
when enough is enough, because right now they are it's hey,

1040
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.639
don't do this, Israel. Just like you said, Nan Yaho, says,

1041
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:43.719
screw you, I'm going to do it anyway. They do it,

1042
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.000
and the US just goes, well, don't do it again,

1043
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.679
and then don't do it again. And so when I

1044
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.400
when I was a human intelligence analyst out in Iraq,

1045
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:56.840
I had another analyst. This was years ago, and I'm

1046
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.159
still study I still studying Israel at that time, and

1047
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.159
he was educating me on some things. And you know,

1048
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:06.079
Israel in the United States, Israel's like that friend at

1049
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.039
the bar you always go to the bar with that

1050
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:10.599
gets too drunk and then starts a fight, and then

1051
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:11.760
you have to get into the fight.

1052
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:13.440
And you keep going to.

1053
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.800
The bar because you like the guy and you guys

1054
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.480
have a great time, but sometimes he takes it too

1055
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.119
far and then you have to get involved. And at

1056
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:23.400
some point you have to tell that guy either you're

1057
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:27.280
gonna stop doing that or I'm not going to be

1058
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:31.360
associating with you anymore. And so we're close. I don't

1059
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:33.800
think we're at that level. We are very close to

1060
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.400
that level. The response that Israel is going to take

1061
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.639
on Iran is going to say a lot about future

1062
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:42.599
dialogue with the United States.

1063
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.000
Yeah, I look, Spain's already announced they're cutting him off

1064
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.480
France cutting him off in terms of support for all

1065
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:52.159
of this. What I see is, I think this is

1066
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.920
an opinion, but I think most people from NOLASA looking

1067
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:58.760
and can probably agree with this assessment that Israel does

1068
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.800
what they do because they know the US is behind them.

1069
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:03.400
Yeah.

1070
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.960
I believe that I do, and we have a long history.

1071
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:10.199
We'll get off this topic soon because I wanted to

1072
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:12.679
go into you know, your neck of the woods of

1073
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.360
Witch you specialized, and I think it was like Russian.

1074
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:16.000
I've got a few more minutes.

1075
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:21.199
Okay, We'll move out out of this pretty soon. But anyway, Yeah,

1076
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.199
I think they just they just do do what they

1077
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.719
do because of because we're behind them. And then if

1078
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.199
you look at the history of what they have done

1079
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:33.079
over the years, all over the years, they have been

1080
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.480
told to calm down, and more than one one occasion

1081
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:39.000
throughout the years because of how they've approached certain situations

1082
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.880
and gone after other nations. So they do have a

1083
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.840
history or a pattern of doing this. Now we can

1084
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:49.239
argue whether all of that was justified. But still I

1085
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.480
don't know. There's I just hope all this ends soon,

1086
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:55.719
you know, and and it ends in a way that

1087
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:59.840
doesn't drag everybody into a world war. And then with that,

1088
01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:01.679
I I kind of want to move. Let's quickly go

1089
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:05.159
over a few other things. So just got just came

1090
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:07.639
out and I think you saw this. What do you

1091
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.440
think about North Korea sending troops over now? Oh yeah,

1092
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:11.159
in the world.

1093
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:15.519
Over about twelve thousand North Korean troops going out to

1094
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:21.159
Ukraine to fight. So, first of all, for a big picture,

1095
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:25.239
is now you're seeing what we would consider in World

1096
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.760
War two the Axis Alliance, which is and Iran has

1097
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.920
called their own group the Axis of Resistance. I think

1098
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.199
that's going to be coined for this entire axis, which

1099
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:41.199
is Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. So those groups are

1100
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:44.599
coming closer, and now you've got twelve thousand to thirteen thousand.

1101
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:48.159
I've seen some say as much as seventeen thousand North

1102
01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:52.239
Koreans moving to Russia because they need more fodder. And

1103
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.800
it's very interesting that all those troops are going to

1104
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.559
the Curse Region. And if you haven't been following that

1105
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:01.320
war recently, the Curse Region is where Ukraine successfully did

1106
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.760
a counter offensive and took over Russian land in Kursk

1107
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.559
to push back those Russian munitions. So they can't hit

1108
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:15.079
places like Kievan Leviv areas within Ukraine. So Russia is

1109
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:18.159
not only conscripting these North Koreans, they are going to

1110
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:24.199
one of the bigger hotbeds where Russia wants to show

1111
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:28.000
force and push back Ukrainians back across the border. So

1112
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:29.159
that's very interesting.

1113
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.519
Do you think this is something that may pull China

1114
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:34.519
into the fold on this.

1115
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.079
I think China's going to be So. China's got their

1116
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.400
own thing that they want to do with Taiwan, and

1117
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.360
I think they're going to stay out publicly, out of

1118
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:47.559
everything until they can do that. Now, China's got an

1119
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.440
issue with manpower. You know, we see China. They've got

1120
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.719
millions to throw at this war. They've got to do

1121
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.559
it very quickly. When I say very quickly, within the

1122
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.880
next five years, because a lot of them in the

1123
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:06.360
men's male service members in China are aging out of

1124
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:07.199
being able to fight.

1125
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:08.320
They are, so.

1126
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:10.960
They're not going to send I absolutely do not think

1127
01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.239
I have it as unlikely that China is going to

1128
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:16.960
send p l A into Russia to help that battle.

1129
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.679
What they're going to hope so they're gonna they they're

1130
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:27.119
helping monetarily, They're helping with you know, certain missile defenses,

1131
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.119
things of that nature, militarily on the through back channels.

1132
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.039
They won't publicly state that they're doing this, but they are.

1133
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.440
I think that's where it's going to stay. The country

1134
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.519
I'm looking at getting heavily involved as Belarus.

1135
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:41.960
Uh.

1136
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.159
And the problem with Belarus is it's right there with Poland,

1137
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:51.440
and there could come a time where Russia says, screw it,

1138
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:55.039
we're going full on Belarus. You've got the nukes. So

1139
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.639
Russia last summer sent nuclear weapons believe it was last summer.

1140
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.639
Timeline could be all off, but the Russia is nuclear

1141
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:06.039
weapons to Belarus to store them along the border there,

1142
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.360
and so now Belarus has it. There could come a

1143
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:16.599
time in the near future where Putin says to Lukashenko

1144
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.159
and Belarus, hey, all bets are off.

1145
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:21.480
Go into Poland.

1146
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.599
We're going through Ukraine and we're going to get into

1147
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.800
Poland and we're going to war with NATO because we're

1148
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.320
at odds and this is this is going to be

1149
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.960
a full war. So Belarus could be very important. Lukashenko

1150
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:39.159
was put in place by Russia, so he has certain

1151
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:43.480
obligations to the Russian state and the Russian military that

1152
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.440
he is going to have to accept once Putin says

1153
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:49.960
Belarussian forces, even if it's just put them in Ukraine,

1154
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:50.920
that's going to happen.

1155
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:57.239
What a mess, man, it is, it really is. I

1156
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.000
know you're going to have to go here soon, so

1157
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.719
I'm gonna I'm just gonna quickly go over a few

1158
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.480
other things. So let's let's go back to the USA itself,

1159
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:05.400
I mean.

1160
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:07.800
And always if you want me back on, we can

1161
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:10.119
spend some more time. When I have more time, you

1162
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:10.639
gotta go there.

1163
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:17.280
Let's let's really quickly election opinion. What do you think?

1164
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:19.480
And how's that going to go? And then I would

1165
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.800
like you to talk more about your podcast, so everybody

1166
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.800
knows you know where to find that and listen to

1167
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:26.800
you and your wife and you know, go over all

1168
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.079
that as well. So let's start with your opinion. What's

1169
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:29.639
going on with the election?

1170
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:34.360
Yeah, look, so I've said it. I was recently on

1171
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.079
a podcast with some people that I say are very

1172
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.519
good friends of mine. It is called Songs and Stories.

1173
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:43.280
It's by the band Emery. I was on there and

1174
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I talked heavily about the election. I don't give I'm

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01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:47.960
not going to give who I'm going to vote for,

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01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:52.920
but I will give how I'm assessing things are going

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01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:56.719
to go. And so right now everything flows through Pennsylvania.

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01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:02.119
You can run twenty twenty thousand simulations. The person who

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01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:05.320
wins Pennsylvania wins the presidential election. We all know that

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01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.880
we can agree with. That's evident. That's why Trump and

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01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:14.039
Harris both have been going into to Pennsylvania recently. What's

1182
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:16.320
been happening that's been interesting to me is Michigan and

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01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:21.280
Wisconsin have sort of turned over to Trump. Something has

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01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:25.119
happened within Michigan and Wisconsin that has made them more

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01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:29.199
palatable to Trump. And if he can win Wisconsin and Michigan,

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01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.960
he doesn't need Pennsylvania. I didn't see that coming a

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01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:37.760
couple of months ago. That's another key one to go on.

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01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:41.079
So depending on who you trust the polsters. The polsters

1189
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:45.599
still have Kamala Harris winning at least the national vote

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01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:49.679
by one point eight percent. They still have her favored

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01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:54.039
in Pennsylvania and a couple of other states, including Nevada,

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01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.599
which I think is trending more towards Trump. So do

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01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:59.440
you trust the pollsters or do you trust Vegas? Meaning

1194
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.239
people are putting bets on the election, and Vegas doesn't lose.

1195
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.519
I think I think I at this point, I don't

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01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:08.559
trust the polls. I'm I think I'm leaning more towards

1197
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.000
how Vegas is going to be, Yeah, judging how this

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01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:13.440
is going to go. Yeah, Well, we'll see how this

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01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:17.960
all unfolds. Well, let's let's talk about your uh, your

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01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.920
podcast really quick before you have to head off, and

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01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.119
then you know, whatever else you want people to know

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01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:25.119
about you, and we'll get you out of it.

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01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:27.960
One more thing on the election. Yeah, and now I'm

1204
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.239
extending my time a little bit, but yeah, so one thing,

1205
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.320
one more thing on the election. My hope is that

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01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.119
it's not a hotly contested election either way. Whoever wins,

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01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.159
it probably will be because Pennsylvania is one of those

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01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:45.800
states that can't assess the election right after the polls

1209
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.199
are done, so it's going to go through the night.

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01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:53.159
But I hope someone wins with more so than the

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01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:56.880
last election or the one before that, because that's what

1212
01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.719
China wants. Honestly, that's what they've been trying to do,

1213
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:03.039
is hotly contested election that no one approves of, and

1214
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.960
we have a civil war in this country. So that's

1215
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:08.440
my hope. So I said, I don't care, like I'm

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01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.599
not going to support one candidate or another, but my

1217
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:13.320
hope is somebody wins by a lot.

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01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.000
I'll just try. I believe what that post was that

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01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:20.239
came out about the UK Labor Party sending one hundred

1220
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:25.119
people over here to campaign for Harris. But anyway, Yeah,

1221
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:27.680
let's let's go over your podcast here and what you

1222
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.640
offer and you're scheduling and when that comes out and

1223
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:32.359
how that came together.

1224
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:36.319
Yeah, so the podcast is this week explain it's a

1225
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:41.079
geopolitical intelligence podcast, just based off of my history, my

1226
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.840
experience as an intelligence analyst. And you set it up

1227
01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:47.439
perfectly at the beginning. We try to break down these

1228
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.640
big events and we don't get technical, we don't get

1229
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:54.000
bogged down. And so that's if you know anything about

1230
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.720
intelligence analysis. The reports have to be concise and they

1231
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:00.199
have to be easy to understand. I say for a

1232
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.399
fifth grader. Usually we'll usually say a two star general

1233
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.479
needs to understand it. That's a fifth grade education level.

1234
01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:10.720
Sometimes on these big picture things, that's just a dig

1235
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.760
at the at the officer corps. But that's what we're

1236
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:19.239
really trying to do, is everybody's talking about these these

1237
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:22.039
big picture things in a very technical sense, and so

1238
01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:25.279
no one really understands it except for the people who

1239
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:29.079
are in these certain technical things. So you talk about tanks,

1240
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.760
people who understand tanks, they're gonna be able to speak

1241
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:37.319
very fluently about it. But not everybody understands that, and

1242
01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:41.199
every I think everyone needs to understand these big geopolitical events,

1243
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:43.680
so we try to break it down. And I was

1244
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.479
gonna do it by myself when this all started and

1245
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.800
I started, I did what everybody tells. You want to

1246
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:51.239
start a podcast, you start recording. So I hit record

1247
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:55.720
and I started talking Ben Shapiro type of kind of

1248
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.119
thing where it's just me and I'm just talking and

1249
01:09:58.159 --> 01:09:59.840
you can say whatever you want about that guy, but

1250
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.000
he's got to be brilliant to be able to talk

1251
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.000
for an hour and a half by himself.

1252
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:05.159
I could not do that.

1253
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:09.720
So I said, man, I can't do this, but I

1254
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.680
think it's important. I think what I'm doing is very

1255
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.159
important and people want to hear it. So I went

1256
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:16.880
to my wife and I was like, I really need

1257
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.720
to somebody else, and I don't have any like I

1258
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.079
have friends and stuff, but that would kind of get

1259
01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:26.079
bogged down into stories about our past and kind of

1260
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:29.479
goofing off and things like that. And I was like, Tinna,

1261
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.079
you know, we we have these conversations all the time,

1262
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:34.319
Like we sit at the dinner at the dining room

1263
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.880
table or in our bed and we just talk about

1264
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.359
this stuff and we bounce things off of each other

1265
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.159
and we go to one side and the other. Let's

1266
01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:45.520
do that as a podcast, and we set up and

1267
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.319
we hit record. And I won't say those early episodes

1268
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:54.119
were the greatest, but it's set the foundation for it

1269
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:57.920
where we could sit and it's become a part of

1270
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:01.560
our relationship and our marriage where Thursday nights we sit

1271
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.359
down and we have a conversation and that's the podcast

1272
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:07.239
and then Fridays it gets released.

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01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.720
I like that you too can come together and have

1274
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:13.479
these conversations about politics and you know, major events are

1275
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:15.960
going on in the world. Not too many couples can

1276
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.199
actually do that, to be honest.

1277
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.199
And we get bogged down sometimes, especially Israel Israel Hamas

1278
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:24.920
Israel has blog. I mean, this episode was his real

1279
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:26.880
So yeah, it's a tough one.

1280
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.239
A lot going on out there, and how how do

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01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:31.800
people find you outside of that? I mean, I know

1282
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:33.920
your podcast is built everywhere. I've heard a few times

1283
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:34.880
already myself.

1284
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:37.000
I like it. I appreciate that.

1285
01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.039
And then anything else in terms of socials, websites, anything

1286
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:40.319
like that.

1287
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:44.800
Yeah, So our our Instagram at Open Analytics, we post.

1288
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.840
So if you listen to the podcast, if you're on

1289
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:50.000
that Instagram account, you'll see a lot of the posts

1290
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:53.399
leading up to it, just talking about big events that happen.

1291
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:58.159
So the way we do it is put out the event,

1292
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:00.800
have a headline, kind of give you a basis on

1293
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:04.439
it as a screenshot there, and then within the caption

1294
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.279
I will have an assessment. I think that's very important.

1295
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:10.039
Don't just put out what's going on, like you know,

1296
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:14.920
Israel bombed this area, killed twenty civilians. We want the assessment,

1297
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.199
why did they do? What are the secondary and tertiary

1298
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:20.600
repercussions of that? And that's what we're trying to do

1299
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:25.199
on Instagram, you know, X and Facebook could find this

1300
01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:29.840
everywhere on the socials except for TikTok, just because through

1301
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.199
my experience, I don't I don't trust TikTok at.

1302
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.560
All and I don't do it either.

1303
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.399
That probably gets a lot of people to not see

1304
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:41.279
what we're doing. But I'm going to sleep well at

1305
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:44.680
night knowing that I am not a part of that album.

1306
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:47.119
What I can tell people are finding you, and uh,

1307
01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:50.640
I think from what I can see, you're growing and growing.

1308
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.039
So whatever you're doing, you're doing it right, you know,

1309
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:56.159
and you're presenting you're presenting the info in a way

1310
01:12:56.199 --> 01:13:00.800
that you know that everyone could consume. Like on my show. Yeah,

1311
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.439
I'm sure it can get one sided, and I have

1312
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:06.239
a certain audience. I get it. But at the same time,

1313
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:09.920
you know, we need we need people like you who

1314
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.359
can just stay correct me, correct others. They go, Nope,

1315
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:16.600
this is where it's at and this is the facts,

1316
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.159
and that's an important thing. So anyway, I appreciate you,

1317
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:20.760
and yes, I would like to have you back if

1318
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:23.159
you ever have the time. I know you're super busy.

1319
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:25.319
So with that being said, hey, let's get you ad

1320
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:26.479
here so we could do what you got to do,

1321
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.680
and next time, hopefully we can spend more time together

1322
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:31.359
and have a longer conversation.

1323
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.600
Yeah, let's go for two to three hours, right, once

1324
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:36.760
I have some time, I think I think there's enough

1325
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:38.159
in the world that you and I could have a

1326
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:41.960
conversation for three hours and it would feel like two minutes.

1327
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:44.920
Oh yeah, and I love learning. So you know, you

1328
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.479
have a bunch of knowledge that I don't, and so

1329
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.880
I'm yeah, very happy to ask questions and get get educated.

1330
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:51.159
Same here.

1331
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.680
I love bouncing ideas off of smart people like yourself.

1332
01:13:54.159 --> 01:14:01.439
That's debatable. Thank you. Have a good night there, Ran. Yeah,

1333
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:02.800
let's definitely stay in touch off of this.

1334
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:04.640
Okay, thank you so much for having me. As I

1335
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:06.239
always say, stay safe out.

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01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:14.359
There days your content, you feel attention, devils high, if

1337
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:15.760
be high, redemption

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Hug stands on my get
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Kervin is a Geopolitical Intelligence expert and podcast host of This Week Explained.

Kervin served in the U.S. Army, where he specialized in clandestine intelligence, working alongside Special Operations Forces. He spent most of his time in high-stakes regions which include Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Africa, and Poland. Kervin has dedicated his expertise to countering Russian disinformation and aggression. Kervin also has a vast knowledge of the delicate dynamics and conflict in the Middle East. His keen understanding of geopolitical trends and real-world intelligence operations continues to be an invaluable asset in the realm of security and global affairs.

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