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You are listening to a fons media Network Production. Welcome

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to this special episode number thirty of World Ablaze with

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yours truly, George Fonse. Today I have special guest Jesse Razinski,

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former marine and current hosts of The Jesse Razinski Show.

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He is an independent podcaster in the news and politics category.

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He's known for telling it like it is while backing

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it up with truth and actual data. We thoroughly enjoyed

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speaking with Jesse, and I'm very confident that you will

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enjoy this conversation as well. So please sit back, relax,

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and enjoy the show. Okay, today I have Jesse Rasinsky

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with me. And I came across Jesse when I was

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on Good Pods and I was doing some promotion. I

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came across this podcast and I started listening to it

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come to realize that he's very similar to what we do.

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We have similar views, similar outlooks, and he's also an

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independent just like we are. So I thought I would

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reach out and see if he would be interested and

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just hanging out on the show, and I'd like to

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get to know him better and let the audience know

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him better and also just pick his brain on a

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few things. So welcome Jesse, and we did talk a

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little bit earlier. But how are you doing today.

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I'm doing, you know, I'm doing fantastic. And I appreciate

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the time because time is precious.

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So it very much is, very much is. And I'm

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glad you're here too.

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Man.

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I appreciate you agreeing to do this. I have some

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notes and whatnot that you know, based on info that

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you sent me previously. We had, you know, some back

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and forth and you know, trying to prep for this,

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and if you're okay, I do want to ask him

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questions about your backgrounds, just so we can set it

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up a bit so people understand where you come from

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and how you came to be where you're at. And

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one of those things was the Marine Corps. And I

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remember you said, or you sent me anyway, the information

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stating that you joined them back in two thousand and six,

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and so you achieved the rank of sergeant I believe

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was e five. You said, Is that correct?

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Yes, sir, okay.

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I was going to ask you because you I forget

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the town where were you born and raised?

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While I was born in the beautiful, beautiful city of

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South Brunswick, New Jersey, Okay. And then thankfully we moved

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and I was raised in the much more beautiful, small

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little town of Whitehaven, Pennsylvania, up in the Poconos, to

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the little place love it.

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Really, how long were you there in that town?

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Fourteen years?

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Fourteen years? So, how old were you when you joined

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the Marines?

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I was already, you know, swore in and said to

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go to boot camp before my eighteenth birthday. But I

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left for boot camp two weeks after my eighteenth birthday.

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Was that something like where the Marines something specifically that

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you wanted to do that in your mind you already

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wanted to be a Marine.

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I mean, it was one of those by Buddy Alex,

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who I graduated with. He was already in the delayed

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entry program and did all that, and he just happened

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to offer. By Buddy while we were sitting in some

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computer class in high school first period. Couldn't tell he

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was first period. I was barely eaving conscious, but he

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asked him if he wanted to join, and I was like,

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thanks for asking me, Bro, And there was a good chuckle,

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and I figured if I was gonna know join one,

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no offense to the rest of them, but I was

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going to go join the best and the crazy ones

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and yeah, my mom was pretty set, actually pretty easy

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on that one. It was probably the best decision, easiest

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decision I made my entire life.

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Really want to elaborate on that a little bit.

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I mean, I must say that I had the great

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is probably you know, one of the greatest Brine Corps

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recruiters of all time. You know, shout out to Ron

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Krumanacker wherever you are right now, but he was a great,

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great salesman. And you know, it's just the amount of training,

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you know, how long we do everything compared to everyone else.

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You know, our distance is longer on marksmanship, you know stuff.

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You know, it's just there was just more to it,

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and it was more elaborate and the longest one that

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they had there. And I was like, yeah, you know

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what I think I can I think that fits my

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mentality at my temperament pretty you know, pretty well, because

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I mean it wasn't always as laid back as I

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am now. I still have my moments, but back then

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it just fit, you know, because I was just go

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go go by energy, high testosterone, just a million miles

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an hour, and everything that they sat in front of

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me made complete sense and fit into all of that.

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So no, offense to the other branches of their recruiters

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that they didn't sell me that well. They tried didn't

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work though.

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So the demands, expectations, and basically the bar that they

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set really appealed to you in your personality.

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Yes, it was. Couldn't have been any more perfect fit

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at that point in my life if I tried, minus

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how shy I was. But don't worry, I grew out

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of that too. Look at me.

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Now right now, you're a podcaster among other things.

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I'm sure man, the people in high school when I

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started the podcast are like you started or what? Like yeah, no, right, Well,

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we were friends for twelve years and I only said

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like fifteen words to you.

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Wow. How long were you in the Marines?

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Total? It was four years, eleven months and nineteen days.

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I only remember the eleven months and nineteen days so

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well because I was on med hold because I had

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knee issues before I deployed, okay, and then I finished

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off my knee issue while I was in country like

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halfway through it, and then by the time I got

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back it was just yeah, everything was torn and blown

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to Jesus. So yeah, I was on that hold for

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a while till they said, I was put back together

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enough to go onto my future endebbors. As they put it, what.

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Was wrong with your knee? I mean you're okay answering

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that question?

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Oh yeah, yeah. I mean to make a long story short,

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I first, yeah, had the problem in December of seven,

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so it was very early on just because we were

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running way too much. They told me it was runner's knee.

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For three months. I'm like, it's still swollen. I haven't

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run on it, and yeah. So I went and deployed

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and did all that, and then by the time I

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got back from the deployment, I needed a new knee cap.

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My meniscus was shot. Tell us, yeah, that's done. My

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ac L, MCL, and PC all all had like multiple

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partial tears in it going all the way down it,

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and my achilles was it wasn't in the greatest shape,

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which is why I know how a piece of a

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cadavers shinbone screwed into my achilles to keep it taught

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for the rest of my life or until they replaced

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the thing. But pretty much I just blew everything in

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their pieces. Wow, I mean, long story short.

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Yeah, sounds like they literally rebuilt your entire knee, plus

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you have you have something there to hold your achilles together? Yep. Wow,

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that's crazy. And that was just all from the workload

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of running and doing what you do on the terrain

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every day.

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Yeah, I mean, and my platoon wasn't mean anyone that

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was in there. If they, I mean, they'll comment if

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they listened to this. We ran and ran and ran

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and ran some more. And we were going like ten

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to fifteen miles a day down dark tank trails and

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if you've never seen a tank trail, they'd leave really

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big ruts and stuff. When you can't see it, parts

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of your body twist and pop that shouldn't and when

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you're jumping up and down off the tanks all day.

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I mean, it was just sooner or later it was

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gonna happen. Then it was amazing when it finally went

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out and like fully went out in Iraq, Like that

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was one of those that was an experience. There was

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a lot of There was a lot of laughter that night.

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Don't ask me how, I don't know, because it sure

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didn't feel good, but we were all laughing and that

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was the important part. And I finished out the deployment

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and came back and three knee procedures later, they finally

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told me that my services were no longer needed.

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Wow, So just like that, they were done.

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Oh yeah, Like I was supposed to get out of

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October twenty third, and they pulled me into the office

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on a Thursday, I believe, and they're like, you're getting

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out the twenty third. I'm like, I know, and they're like, no,

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like the twenty third, like now next week.

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That's wow, that's great. I'd you feel this? How did

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you feel about that decision? I mean, were you ready

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have given the injuries and everything, or were you were

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you still wanting to to finish out your term?

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I mean I and it was one of those I

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was ready, but I mean you can never be ready.

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And I thought we were going to work on my

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right knee afterwards. But yeah, that's still an argument with

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the VA and a whole other story that we'll get

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into it some other time in my life. But I

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mean it was one of those I was ready for October.

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I wasn't so ready to have it thrust upon me

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with like five days notice because I didn't have like

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all my stuff, like final physical, my VA stuff to

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get that started before I got out, Like all of

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that was scheduled for months down the road, and I

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couldn't move it in time, and that's just you know,

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so I was, but I wasn't. I'm thankful though that

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you know, it turned out, you know, the way it did,

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because even though it was you know, a cluster, it uh,

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it worked out you know, fairly good all things considered

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with it.

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So it's all in all your mixed emotions, yeah, mixed emotions,

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but all in all your you're okay.

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Yeah, all the things been how it all went down.

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I mean, it could have been a thousand times worse.

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I know people that had it way way worse than

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I did, with medical stuff that never got fixed. So

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all in all, they gave me three procedures. They tried

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to fix it three times. None of them stuck just

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because there was so much and yeah, that was all

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they could do. So I took it. Didn't like it

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at the time, but I mean, who was going to

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It's one of those things. But oh, in all, I

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think it couldn't have worked out, you know, any better

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for it being moved up as much as it was.

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Well, that's good to hear. I was going to go

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back to your deployment in Iraq, And uh, how long

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were you there?

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Just under a year? We were roughly just under the

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ten month mark, like by a couple of days. Supposed

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to be there for fifteen. We came back after ten

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thanks to the first of the eighty second for coming

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out early. They robbed me of a few months and

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that extra thousand bucks you get every month you're there

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after twelve. Don't worry. I still remember that.

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Were you were you deployed or did you volunteer for that?

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I mean, had it?

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Oh? I volunteered. I volunteered to deploy.

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Oh did you?

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Because tank battalion, Tank battalion, they only have you know,

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there's only first tanks and second tanks, I mean at

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the time, and second tanks doesn't even exist anymore. But

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you know, only one company, one line company, because you

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only have H and S Company, and we had Alpha Bravo,

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Charlie Delton. I think we stood up Echo at that point.

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You Oh, and only one line company got to deploy

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at a time, So they asked for people to volunteer

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to go. You have to three separate places. And I

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just threw my hand up in air as fast as

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I could to get as far away from that place

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really just because you know, if I didn't do it

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then I mean most people I've known people that were

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there for you know, eight years, and they never got

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to deploy. They never got to go anywhere, just because

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you know, it's such a small thing. They're not allow

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of them to get to go anywhere, especially as a

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mechanic like operators, they all get to go. But every

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line company only had a select number of mechanics, and

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we were getting so many extra mechanics, you know, like

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every time the school graduated a class, we'd get like

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another fifteen. So we were just piling up, and you know,

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at some point it's just not possible or feasible for

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you to get out. So they said who wants out?

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And I threw both my hands in the air and

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I ran out those doors fast as humanly possible.

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So you were you were wanting to get deployed, like,

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oh yeah, you just wanted to get away, yeah, from

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from where you're at and actually go fulfill your duties

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as Amarine, you know, based on how you were training,

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what you were meant to do.

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Go do something, yeah, Like yeah, I mean that was

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like the whole goal. That was one of them. When

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you know, I joined the Marine Corps is you know,

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you get to go on a deployment and you just

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get to go actually do the thing and yeah, see,

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yeah things outside of the country here and you know

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how everything is over there and what was actually happening

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and you know all of that. And again I didn't

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get an option before that, just because there were so

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many people in front of me to go to line

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companies and I would like please, and it really was me.

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It was just tank telling ask anyone that was there.

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It's like the most joyous and miserable place on the planet.

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And I still love it dearly, but I needed to

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get out of there, and thankfully I actually got like,

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out of the three, I didn't get to pick which

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one I wanted to go on. I just threw my

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name in the hat to go on one of them,

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and thankfully actually ended up on the one that I

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wanted out of the three, so that one actually worked

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out really cool as well. I didn't get lucky much,

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but that was cool.

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So so once you were there, in your time spent there,

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what was your experience like in Iraq at that time?

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So surprisingly, you know, we didn't like when we got there.

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We took over from an army unit that had the base,

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and we took over. So we had like we built

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a giant concrete wall and compound around us. The little

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village right outside the gate there. Those people were bringing

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us food and helping us build this wall, you know.

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I mean again, they tried to blow us up a

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few times. Things happened, get shot at, things happened, you know.

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I mean, it's a deployment, sooner or later, those things

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are bound to happen. But I mean it was just

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as crazy as it sounds, because I mean we were working.

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Sometimes we wouldn't get off the road until like, you know,

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back until like five five thirty in the morning, and

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then we'd immediately go into regimental pt which I still

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think is really dumb to have us all together in

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one spot in that situation. But a whole other story again,

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but we were working like sun up to way too

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early in the morning, six days a week, and it

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just it's weird to say it was like a vacation,

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but I mean, when you're here all kinds you know,

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stateside and you're doing it like all kinds of you know, family,

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you know, all kinds of life things happen and the

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unexpected stuff that you know, we all go through. That

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was you know ten months where it was just work

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and then work and then work and then go on

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the road and then run and you know, grab your

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laundry from people, you know, try to get some chow

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if you can, and then go pete and then back

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to work. And and it was like that, you know,

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it was just continuous without any you know, any crazy

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unexpected stuff.

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Yeah. It's almost like you didn't have time to really

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take it in and they just just kept going.

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Oh yeah, we were it was you know, we were good.

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But again we were where I was. It really wasn't

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having too much you know, really just anything crazy going on,

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which you know, thankfully we didn't have a lot of

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We got into situations when we were outside of the walls,

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but we were inside the walls. It was you know,

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just we got to see the culture. We got to

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you know, I mean I did get to interact with

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a lot of sheikhs and you know just civilians that

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were working you know on base for us and do

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all that. So you know, I got to do a

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lot of that stuff. But it was busy, busy, busy.

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It was really hot, and I'd probably some of the

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best time of my higher life, as odd as that

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might sound to some people, but they were going to

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get that back again. It was. It was a great time,

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you know. I mean I did my job, I did

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it well, and we got a lot of the movie.

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Accomplished everything that we add to more than we probably

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you know, had do because we were just getting volunteered

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to do everything, and it was it was a hell

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of an experience. I mean, part of my French but

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I will say that like that was that was amazing

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and it was completely different culture really, you know all that,

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but sometimes you got to take it in. You know,

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during sandstorms you really got to stop and sit down

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and think when you were just stuck inside for days

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on end. But otherwise, yeah, I was so busy that

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you didn't notice anything.

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You also gonna ask you when you you know, what

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your experiences and interacting with different cultures outside of the

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United States, I mean, did any of that when you

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came back or even while you were there, affect your

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views after on how you saw things?

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I mean the whole grand question of why or even

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here thing. I mean, yeah, I've had those deep conversations

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with that. But the people over there that you know,

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at least the ones you know, whether it was the

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engineers that you know, went to school for that, it

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was their workers because every time they were there, if

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I got stuck, you know, if I got through the

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straw for you know, security detail, and just watching them

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while they were there doing stuff like I don't know,

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it's like they were I mean as much like regular

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you know, just regular like me, like when I was

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working a job before the Marine Corps. Like they were

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just there, all of them, like they had They were

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just there trying to make waye you know, make money,

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to feed their family, yeah, to try to better their lives,

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you know. And it was really freakishly how similar we

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all were with them. That makes any sense, it does.

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I think I think it's crazy. Yeah, I think it's

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crazy most people. You kind of come to find that

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humans are human, Like we're all, we're all people, we're

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all in the in the end wanting to try to

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get the same thing, food, shelter, you know, safety.

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Doesn't matter where you are, it's all they want, right

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And that was because I always you know thought that

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and it was nice to go and you know, actually

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physically get to see that with the many, many, many

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you know, different people that I got to work with.

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And again, it was all the way from like you know,

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higher up their sheiks, all the way down to you know,

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general labors, and for the most part, I mean we

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all just sat there and laughed and you know, talked

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about our families and you know, just basic stuff. And

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that was that was probably the best part about all

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of that, because you always hear all kinds of you know,

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no matter where you go here, all the noise that

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people make about it, but generally, no matter where I've been,

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everyone just wants the same thing, and there's no hard

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feelings towards us. You know, they all had their views

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on everything was before all of that, but there was

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no hard feelings towards us. They just wanted, you know,

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break bread, have lunch, have laughs, go home to their family,

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and repeat. And I really I appreciated that more than anything.

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So it was a It's not like you ran into

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a lot of individuals necessarily that had extreme views and

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were promoting violence and whatnot while you're deployed. I mean,

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obviously we were there for a reason, but in your experience,

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that wasn't like the day in and day out for you.

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Yeah, I didn't. It wasn't at all. The on went bad.

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You know, times I had to worry about those people

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is when we were on the aptly named graveyard that

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was the name of the road that was, and we

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always ran into some of those type people that made

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things kind of interesting at three point thirty in the morning.

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Wow.

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Especially, I don't want to know why they named the

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I mean, I know what we all know why they

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named the graveyard.

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You know that was.

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And I never actually had to deal with any of

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those people, but all the you know, civilian base, they

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were all really actually good, honest people, and I respected

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all of them for it because it proved what I

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thought about, you know, humanity is yeah a whole most

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of us just want the same things.

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And yeah, but that was that's good to hear. That's

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good to hear from me, because you know, when you're

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when you're cut off, you know, as you know, living

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in America, we're all a lot of people just only

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believe what they're told or or being reported about, right,

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and you're led to believe, you know, this person bad,

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that person evil. You know, America is the enemy to

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the world. Et cetera. And it's always good to hear

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someone else's perspective actually has been out there and to

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bring back testimony of well, you know, people are people.

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We all kind of want the same things. It's unfortunate

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these conflicts happen and we're all caught in the middle

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of it. But I think the average person would rather

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not be in those conflicts whatsoever. So exactly, it's it's

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it's good to hear. I'll gotta be honest, it's good

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to hear what you had to say about that. And

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it wasn't you know, fortunately for you and not all

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gloom and doom.

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So yeah, I got lucky together. I got the one

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that I wanted. I got sheer luck, and everything was

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it was what you'd hope it. Yeah, to be within

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the civilian base everything, and it was it was touching

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to see it.

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What what year did you I don't I you probably

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said it, but what do you What year did you

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get out of the Marines?

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Twenty eleven?

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Okay, twenty eleven, that's when you got it. I don't know.

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Were you always this this question? I'm kind of trying

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to say that. So were you always a conservative leaning

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in your views before you deployed. Yeah, okay, and then yeah,

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after coming back and experienced what you did, did it

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change anything about your views as far as you know,

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when you came back to the United States to live

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back as a back here as a civilian.

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I mean, it's just I think embolden is the best

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word my feelings towards you know, the machine as I

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like to call it.

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Yeah, the machine.

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Some people call, you know, some people called a swamp,

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some people call whatever what I just call it the

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big machine that keeps chugging and you know, promoting all

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this and you know, all you gotta do is turn

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that stuff off and just go talk to people.

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I was going to I was going to go into

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one of the stories that you were telling me earlier.

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So you come back, you know, your experience was good,

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you survived, everything was fine, come back and on. I

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believe this is after you came back on a Thanksgiving

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you got hit by a truck, but as a pedestrian,

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you weren't in a car. You got to hit walking.

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Is that correct? Yes, sir?

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What the heck happened there?

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Thanksgiving Eve twenty nineteen. My last thought that I remember was, man,

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it's way too muggy out here for me to be

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walking right now. I should turn around at the fountain

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right here at the beginning of my yeah, neighborhood. Well,

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it turns out I didn't turn around. Uh, and thankfully

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I don't remember, you know, actually getting hit. I think

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my blessings for that one. But it was a full

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sized white Chevy Silverado going approximately they said sixty five.

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That sixty five sent me into orbit.

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So you say, when you got hit walking by a

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cargoing sixty five months star?

484
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Yep, big old white Silverado, big old thing.

485
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:36.720
Was it dark right and boggy?

486
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:38.640
Like? How it was?

487
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.000
How was it that this person saw you?

488
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:47.240
Oh? I I have no idea. I only got mixed things,

489
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:52.160
you know, stories from from people that you know. Well,

490
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:55.640
the one person that actually stuck around when I got hit,

491
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.839
and she really, I can say, when she tried to like, yeah,

492
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.640
tell me the story, she was just more tearing up

493
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.799
and thankful that her and her husband stopped, you know,

494
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:13.079
because they were right there and they saw it and

495
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.680
they stopped, and she pulled my head out of the road.

496
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.000
Because anyone that's ever been here in Jacksonville knows that

497
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.000
anyone sees anything like that they're not stopping to help.

498
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.880
They're hauling the mails so they don't get stuck in

499
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.160
traffic behind everything when it stops. And she was lucky

500
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.400
enough to go and pull my you know head out

501
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.000
of the road, because she said she only looked up

502
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:38.960
and just saw oh no, as I was hurled down

503
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.519
the road. Ah, thankfully she didn't. But all the cameras

504
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.400
were like, no one could actually pick any of it up.

505
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.319
And I've never talked to the person that did it,

506
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.680
so and no one else stuck around even say anything.

507
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:59.279
So I'm kind of grateful that I don't have to know.

508
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:05.640
I've wondered many, many many times, how, yeah it happened.

509
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.599
I mean I crossed, I crossed that, I crossed that intersection.

510
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.359
I mean there were times I was crossing that intersection

511
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:17.039
like six times a day, you know, just yeah, walking51200:27:17.079 --> 00:27:18.720



back and forth, because I used to just do that51300:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.519



all the time. Hit myself, you know, in a reasonable51400:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.480



size besides round, which by the way, is my current51500:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.079



you know size. But I don't know what happened, but51600:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.839



I know, huh oh, I know. Everything from that moment51700:27:33.960 --> 00:27:40.079



on just kept getting more unfathomable and unbelievable and then51800:27:40.119 --> 00:27:44.799



there are shades of ridiculous, and somehow I laughed through51900:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.279



it all, Like I really, I don't understand how I52000:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.400



found everything so funny, But I think that was just52100:27:50.039 --> 00:27:51.799



the mere fact of when I finally, you know, like52200:27:51.839 --> 00:27:56.480



snapped too. I was like, they told me what happened.52300:27:56.519 --> 00:27:57.920



I was in the wrinkle on my toes. I'm like,52400:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.279



that shouldn't be like that, because they told me what happened.52500:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.200



Like something that big was going that fast hit me52600:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.200



directly and my left hip and I went flying like52700:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.240



I scorpioned when I hit the asphalt on my face wow,52800:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.720



and neck was fine, spine ended up being fine. Like52900:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.279



I broke my pelvis in three pieces. That didn't feel good,53000:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.599



by the way, But like I was sitting there like,53100:28:21.640 --> 00:28:23.359



well my legs still moved, what I mean, they hurt,53200:28:23.720 --> 00:28:29.000



but I and I was just grateful that. I mean,53300:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.279



it's very cliche to say I got a second chance,53400:28:31.839 --> 00:28:37.240



but I stand firm and there's not a there's no53500:28:37.319 --> 00:28:42.319



reason why you know, shouldn't be still in that wheelchair53600:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.160



that they gave me, or you know, even worse off53700:28:45.319 --> 00:28:46.279



from what happened.53800:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.000



Well, based on what you're saying, I mean, you got53900:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.880



a hit at sixty five miles an hour, flew scorpion54000:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.599



on the floor or the pavement, and the only thing54100:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.519



that really happened was you broke your pelvis in a54200:28:57.519 --> 00:29:01.799



few places. Your back was fine. Yeah, you're luck, You're54300:29:01.839 --> 00:29:03.079



not freaking paralyzed.54400:29:03.799 --> 00:29:04.519



Yeah.54500:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.759



How long was your recovery, you know, from shattering your pelvis? Basically,54600:29:09.880 --> 00:29:10.440



like how long.54700:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.559



I mean, how long should it have taken compared to54800:29:14.599 --> 00:29:19.079



how long the VA made it take? I mean within54900:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.880



I mean, this is with eight screws holding everything together.55000:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.119



By the way, I did not know that they made55100:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.400



screws long enough surgical to go from one side of55200:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.599



your hips straight through the other. It turns out they55300:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.519



really do, and it looks really cool next ray. But55400:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.359



I think I was like by like the end of55500:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.160



the first week when they're like, don't lift anything, don't55600:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.119



do this, don't do that, and God bless them. I55700:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.079



mean I shouldn't have been. But by the end of that,55800:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.839



like my friends were coming to check coming and they55900:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.640



had to get the garbage out of like the garage,56000:29:51.160 --> 00:29:55.839



and my buddy Dave, Yeah, God bless them. Yeah, good56100:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.880



old master guns Patterson. Now, but he was like pulled56200:29:59.880 --> 00:30:03.079



the pin left the gradualate like what pin And then56300:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.559



there I was hurling like fifty pound bags like cat56400:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.039



litter out of my way, like you shouldn't be doing that,56500:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.640



I know, but I was up there. I was taking56600:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.680



care of myself. I was cooking for myself, I was56700:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.759



doing laundry. I was doing all that with them like56800:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.519



a week and a half really, and then they got me.56900:30:21.119 --> 00:30:26.720



You know, X ray's done within a month and there.57000:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.640



I mean that was through the VA, but the VA57100:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.079



couldn't get me into an actual doctor, you know, to57200:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.920



clear any to get me actually cleared out of the wheelchair.57300:30:36.000 --> 00:30:42.559



So I mean that took I want to say, month57400:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.039



and a half two months from them to finally like57500:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.880



get me out of it, out of it the wheelchair.57600:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.359



But they'd like looked at the x rays and they're like,57700:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.359



I mean, everything looks healed. Within a month. Again, it57800:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.920



took them forever to get me anywhere. But again, the57900:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.839



beginning of twenty twenty, depending on where you were, things58000:31:02.839 --> 00:31:07.400



started getting a little dumb. So so that did you heal? Certainly?58100:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.480



Did you heal correctly? Like do you have any issues?58200:31:09.680 --> 00:31:15.440



Oh? Yeah, I mean thanks to you know everything that58300:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.079



because I mean again pelvis was broken three places. I58400:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.880



broke my middle finger on my right hand except in58500:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.680



the middle of my hand like in my palm there58600:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.359



that they'd never like reset, which I still find weird58700:31:30.079 --> 00:31:31.799



because like you have to, because I had to press58800:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.599



myself up to get in and out the wheelchair and58900:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.240



really do anything with a broken hand, that was weird.59000:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.720



But that my nose is broken in two spaces. Thankfully59100:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.599



they didn't have to straighten it because it stayed aligned59200:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.240



when it broke twice, and I got a half tooth59300:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.720



and I got a half tooth. It still looks awesome59400:31:47.720 --> 00:31:53.960



whenever I smile. But I mean I partially tore some59500:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.079



more ligaments in my knee and I finally finished off59600:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.720



my lcl So that's got all kinds of tears in59700:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.079



and now just from the they said when my leg59800:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.920



came down. But so I mean my left legs normally59900:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.359



on average from like knee down, like an extra like60000:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.079



three inches in my right leg all the time, you know,60100:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.000



without doing anything. So I mean that's a lasting effect,60200:32:15.000 --> 00:32:21.519



which doesn't feel good like at all. But again because60300:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.039



of my need. They told me that I needed a60400:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.519



replacement when I was twenty two, and that was never60500:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.400



going to run again. So I mean, it's not like60600:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.240



this took that away from me. It's just a lot60700:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.079



of pain and swelling, and yeah, I know my limits.60800:32:35.680 --> 00:32:40.400



I then pushed my limits, all right, who doesn't. Yeah,60900:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.039



that's the worst thing. It's just swelling. I mean I61000:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.759



had that was my second traumatic brain injury. So I61100:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.640



did get one, you know, overseas, but that was that61200:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.599



had nothing to do with getting blown up or anything.61300:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.759



That was just a crazy person. So that I had that,61400:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.039



and I didn't, you know, I have my migraines are61500:33:01.079 --> 00:33:06.759



a little worse. Yeah, but and I had crazy like61600:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.119



directional vertigo like that would just come out of nowhere.61700:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.559



That was really that lasted for like NonStop, I'd say61800:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.160



for two years or so. After it like where I'd61900:33:18.160 --> 00:33:19.839



be fine for a while, then I'd have like, you know,62000:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.599



two forty five pound dumbbells over my head and I'd62100:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.599



be laying back and then suddenly everything would start spinning62200:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.880



on me. That was kind of that was kind of62300:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.400



uncomfortable for a while, but otherwise everything's perfectly fine. I62400:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.960



don't know how again, by the grace of someone, yeah,62500:33:34.559 --> 00:33:35.640



well someone out there.62600:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.720



Was sounds like out for me. Yeah, it sounds like62700:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.480



after everything that happened, I mean, you were seems like62800:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.359



you were obviously meant to still be here.62900:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.319



I said second chance when I could, like, I snapped too.63000:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.960



I wriggled my toes like but I'm good. Like there63100:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.720



felt like I was cracking jokes. The nurses and the63200:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.359



doctor were looking at my friend that came to see me.63300:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.759



They're like getting me. She's like, oh know what, that's normal.63400:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.799



That's him, Like, oh, I thought was a head injury.63500:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.000



He's like, no, man, he's good. You'll know if he's63600:34:04.039 --> 00:34:08.239



not good. And I walked away way more unscathed than63700:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.400



I ever should have been. The no surgery was a63800:34:11.440 --> 00:34:15.920



little weird. You know, that's had some lasting effects with63900:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.599



some like drainage and stuff. But I mean, if the64000:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.159



worst that came out of it was my leg swollen,64100:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.679



my hip hurts and my drainage is a little weird.64200:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.119



I mean, that's one of those blessings. That's the second chance.64300:34:28.239 --> 00:34:33.199



And that's when I started really I pushed my foot64400:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.840



to the pedal on getting the podcast thing going and64500:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.880



doing all that woll Because I always talked about it,64600:34:37.920 --> 00:34:38.480



I never did it.64700:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.239



So did that second chance that second chance motivate you64800:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.760



to get into podcasting? Is that what caused you?64900:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.760



It motivated me to finally it caused me to finally65000:34:48.800 --> 00:34:53.199



actually do it because I was talking about it for yeah, forever.65100:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.840



Then it took me, you know, a while, after recovery65200:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.760



and all that, to finally, you know, just because COVID65300:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.159



pushed back them fixing my nose. So yeah, and that65400:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.800



was kind of awkward trying to you know, talk and65500:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.039



breathe in all that, because I mean it was kind65600:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.280



of janky, I guess, is the best way to put it.65700:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.679



But it finally, you know, it pushed me to do65800:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.559



to finally actually do it because I was like, I mean,65900:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.599



theoretically speaking with that accident, I shouldn't even be here66000:35:23.639 --> 00:35:29.119



to have, yeah, the opportunity to do it, So I wasn't.66100:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.239



I wasn't letting the opportunity go to waste this time.66200:35:33.800 --> 00:35:37.960



With So, with all that being said, you your longest66300:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.880



running podcast, your baby, as you said, is the Jesse66400:35:41.159 --> 00:35:47.039



Razinski Show. Yes, sir, What what led to you wanting66500:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.440



to actually get into podcasting? First of all? And secondly,66600:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.519



and we kind of talked about this before we started66700:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.639



recording this why politics because it's it's kind of a66800:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.519



it's kind of a narrow space, you know, and it's66900:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.039



kind of taboo. People don't want to really talk about it,67000:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.039



but yet it's it's one of the bigger categories there67100:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.760



is out there. What led you to want to podcast67200:36:09.760 --> 00:36:16.800



and specifically get into the political space in podcasting, Well, see,67300:36:16.840 --> 00:36:18.239



because you.67400:36:18.280 --> 00:36:22.159



Know, when I was growing up, like we all have,67500:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.039



like you know, our parents and we have another people67600:36:25.119 --> 00:36:26.519



that we call mom and dad, you know, our friends67700:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.400



parents down the road. We had all that, and you know,67800:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.320



they were always like every night just local news followed67900:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.000



by you know, I remember what. I think they watched68000:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.719



the local news twice and then they'd turn on and68100:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.119



you know, I know it might be taboo to say68200:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.400



his name now, but you know, the O'Reilly factor was there.68300:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.920



You know, there was Bill saying his thing and he'd watch,68400:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.559



but he was watching like everybody across everything, just to68500:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.360



get you know, the perspective of all the different ones.68600:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.800



I could just see a bunch of their faces from68700:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.760



the other networks. I just can't tell you any of68800:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.440



their names. And I mean, who doesn't remember Bill O'Reilly.68900:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.039



I mean, honestly, I mean, I definitely remember Bill Oreley.69000:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.159



Yeah, he was a big name, but a sorry world,69100:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.719



but I can't remember anyone on the other networks. It69200:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.000



was a long time ago, but it was always just69300:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.159



you know, we always had conversations about that like type69400:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.920



of stuff even growing up, and about the local politics69500:37:20.199 --> 00:37:25.679



and you know then obviously the military. I mean everything69600:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.679



from that all the way down to coaching little league here, yeah,69700:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.800



in North Carolina when I did that, like that even69800:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.679



had its own set of politics, Like politics really I69900:37:33.719 --> 00:37:38.719



mean touches every aspect of your life. And I wanted to,70000:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.320



you know, and I didn't really think that the news70100:37:43.360 --> 00:37:49.519



media was giving anyone like a fair swing it things,70200:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.719



no matter which way it was, you know, because everything's70300:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.480



so biased and skewed one way no matter what. Everyone70400:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.719



you know can admit to that, I think. And it70500:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.000



was just everything and I saw.70600:38:02.039 --> 00:38:09.639



Like like all kinds of you know, between my liberal70700:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.119



friends who I still missed dearly that didn't.70800:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.199



Die, any one that just stopped talking to me, and70900:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.199



think we weren't even talking politics when they did that.71000:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.760



They just vanished one day. But you know, it was71100:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.119



just I didn't think there was enough you know, conversations71200:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.679



about you know what was actually in like the bills71300:38:26.400 --> 00:38:30.920



and what was actually happening out there. And I've, you know,71400:38:32.360 --> 00:38:34.559



even through everything, tried to stay you know, up to71500:38:34.639 --> 00:38:36.960



date on a lot of it. And I still, like71600:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.039



you go through my phone right now, like my files71700:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.199



is just filled up with so many bills and all71800:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.039



kinds of stuff in there. Like I just always been71900:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.679



my thing, and I didn't think that there was really72000:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.639



a lot of fair sticks out there. Like that's the nicest,72100:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.440



most pleasant way to put that. And I wanted to72200:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.840



just you know, put what I knew out there to72300:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.519



people because I figured it was, you know, a better72400:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.760



way to grow out of, you know, all that, because72500:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.360



I really was just an awkward, shy kid. And I72600:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.719



keep telling everyone now, my body might not be able72700:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.519



to be in the Marine Corps, but if this mind72800:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.440



right here, like in my mentality now was there back then,72900:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.440



like I would have been like super marine, like I73000:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.039



would have been fain, Like I was just always shy73100:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.559



and awkward, And it helped me come out of that73200:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.719



bubble too by doing this.73300:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.920



It's it's always if I knew then what I knew now, right.73400:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.119



Noh, Like if I just had I tell everyone like well,73500:39:29.360 --> 00:39:35.440



like any regrets that I wasn't like mentally here then, yeah,73600:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.679



it takes time to grow out of that stuff. And73700:39:38.840 --> 00:39:40.320



you know, I just wanted to give and I didn't73800:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.639



think there was enough you know, you know, little guys73900:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.199



out there in the podcasting world, because again, like we74000:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.199



were talking before, like all they have to do is74100:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.360



stop being a senator, you know, stop playing a sport,74200:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.599



and they automatically, you know, just start one and bang74300:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.199



they have millions of views right.74400:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.159



There without any real credibility in the space, you know, Yeah,74500:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.159



they just have a famous name and then there you go. Yeah.74600:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.000



Yeah, And I just didn't think that, especially conservatives. I74700:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.280



didn't think we had a fair spot in the marketplace74800:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.360



per se. Yeah, because there's a lot more on the74900:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.039



other side than there is, you know, us, in my opinion,75000:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.960



especially Indy ones. And again, you know, really it just75100:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.639



helped me come out of my shell, help me express75200:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.320



everything that I was reading. And I figured, even if75300:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.360



I can only you know, help inform or change you75400:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.039



one person's mind just by reading these things to them,75500:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.599



then I'm doing something better for yeah, the world. And75600:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.239



it was better than holding all these thoughts in my75700:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.960



head because who I have a lot of.75800:40:39.880 --> 00:40:47.039



Thoughts, right, a lot. It's ah you do, it's never ending.75900:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.199



I can I can say that I'm a person whose76000:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.239



mind is constantly spinning and and it's it's good to76100:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.880



get those thoughts out. I think I can relate with76200:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.840



you there for sure. Uh. And I also find in76300:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.320



this space that the problem with politics is it's it's76400:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.079



always treated as taboo. But as you said, and I76500:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.400



completely agree, if if you ignore it, it's going to76600:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.719



eat you because politics literally literally if you let it76700:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.079



decides your fate. If you don't pay attention to what's happening,76800:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.039



you're going to suffer the consequence. You really are, And76900:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.960



I think that you're right. There isn't enough independent voices77000:41:28.119 --> 00:41:32.920



in this space to get out, you know, opposing opinions77100:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.880



and present facts and whatnot. And it seems like it's77200:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.119



a very one sided category in the podcasting space or77300:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.039



in the media in general. As you said, there's it's77400:41:42.079 --> 00:41:47.599



mostly democrat, democratically led or liberal minded podcasts or news77500:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.760



outlets and whatnot. But the problem with that is, and77600:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.239



I've said this many times, and I want to I77700:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.519



want to know if you think the same thing that77800:41:56.639 --> 00:42:00.039



most people in their day to day lives are so77900:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.480



busy paying the bills, you know, figuring out what they're78000:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.679



gonna feed their kids for dinner, whatever they got on78100:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.320



their plate, that the only thing they know is the headline,78200:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.880



and they don't take the time to go past the78300:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.440



headline to know what's really going on. Point in cases,78400:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.280



fast forward, and here we are. Maybe this is a78500:42:18.320 --> 00:42:19.880



good segue. I wasn't gonna do this yet, but here78600:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.960



we are, with all of a sudden, everybody realizes Joe78700:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.599



Biden has an issue, when realistically his entire presidency, he's had.78800:42:28.719 --> 00:42:32.000



This issue is just nobody was paying attention because the78900:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.079



average person doesn't read past the headline. They just take79000:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.679



everything for face value. And what I noticed from listening79100:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.159



to your show, as you kind of go past that,79200:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.920



you're like, no, there's more to that story. Here's some facts,79300:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.760



here's what's happening. And guess what, I got this from79400:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.840



a government website and I do the same thing. It's79500:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.320



funny how much you could find on actual government websites79600:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.119



because they have to report that information. They just don't79700:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.599



tell you they do, but they have to. They have79800:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.760



to expose it to the public. It's funny how many79900:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.119



people don't realize that. And then when you when you80000:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.840



hit them with these facts, they're in disbelief. They're like,80100:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.280



there's no way you're talking nonsense. It's ridiculous.80200:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.599



I get yelled at a lot, and I'm like, bro,80300:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.519



it's from like the CBP's website. But go on Google80400:43:20.800 --> 00:43:25.320



right cb type in CBP and then whatever you're looking for,80500:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.800



Google will do you the favor of pulling the exact page,80600:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.519



so you just have to click and it's in front80700:43:30.519 --> 00:43:31.320



of your face.80800:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.280



I mean, that is the magic of living in today's world.80900:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.079



It takes nine seconds. Whoever would have thought back? Because81000:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.000



I pick on my girlfriend all the time because she's81100:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.199



younger than me, you know, she's from the phone generation. Like,81200:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.519



whoever would have thought that? You know? I had to81300:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.719



go to the you know, drive fifteen minutes to get81400:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.960



to the library, to go lit the thing, to find81500:43:49.960 --> 00:43:51.960



the card, to see what shelf the book is on,81600:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.760



just so I can go find anything out. All you81700:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.199



people have to do is just pull up that thing81800:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.840



that's in your hand twenty four to seven. I mean,81900:44:00.039 --> 00:44:01.679



but are less informed now.82000:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.039



Isn't that crazy? And I remember that, like, if you82100:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.440



went the library, you wanted to find the information, you82200:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.880



had to go out of your way to find the information, Okay,82300:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.000



and that was an affirmation of your thirst for knowledge82400:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.960



and truth and whatever discipline you were looking to be82500:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.280



educated in, for example. And now you're absolutely correct, everything's82600:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.719



at your fingertips. And it feels like in today's time82700:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.199



and it just maybe because I'm getting older, but it82800:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.960



feels like we're getting dumber. Yes, let's not say it dumb.82900:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.679



Let's say more ignorant. Because the information is there, they're83000:44:37.679 --> 00:44:41.320



just choosing not to be educated in it, you know,83100:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.800



that are choosing not to take that information educate themselves.83200:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.559



And like I said, it was all bout design. That's83300:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.519



all I'm gonna say about that.83400:44:48.679 --> 00:44:50.599



And I'm sure you and I will get into that easy.83500:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.519



Yeah, it's just so easy. But they've just they've just83600:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.800



polarized and they've done a damn good job. Again pardon83700:44:59.800 --> 00:45:03.159



that French, but they've done well. They've done a good83800:45:03.199 --> 00:45:07.519



job at polarizing everything. Yeah, most people don't even care83900:45:07.559 --> 00:45:07.960



to look.84000:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.880



And everything is so team base. You know, you're waving84100:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.079



your palm poms for your team. You're believing the headline84200:45:14.119 --> 00:45:18.199



and the talking points and they're they're literally not not84300:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.199



hiding the data, but they're definitely not telling you where84400:45:21.239 --> 00:45:25.360



to look. And they take they take everything for truth84500:45:26.119 --> 00:45:30.000



and it's it's crazy. So that being said, let's move84600:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.639



forward a little bit and I want to get your84700:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.440



thoughts on what you think of this current twenty twenty84800:45:36.480 --> 00:45:37.719



four presidential election.84900:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.360



We'll go and I'll start with the to the debate85000:45:41.480 --> 00:45:48.239



topic there just really quick, Okay, man, I beat medicaid.85100:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.840



You did beat it? Oh that was but uh yeah,85200:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.679



like that's this just the Joe Biden and he has85300:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.719



a problem thing that you brought up earlier. I think85400:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.599



it's amazing that really leading up to it, all of85500:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.199



the talking heads we're talking about, he's been preparing for85600:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.079



a week and he's so sharp and he has nothing85700:46:06.119 --> 00:46:07.800



wrong with him and all that, and then you know,85800:46:07.840 --> 00:46:09.719



as they're all spending time with them, they all see85900:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.199



this and that comes from talking heads on you know,86000:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.599



all the networks to everyone in his administration, all of them,86100:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.079



and then that happens and suddenly they're all going, I86200:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.000



didn't know there was anything wrong with them, but he86300:46:21.039 --> 00:46:24.920



didn't just suddenly turn into that in a three like no,86400:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.880



And people are just taking it from face value, which86500:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.679



just irritates me to death, like that doesn't happen that86600:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.400



Like we've all been telling like we've been saying this86700:46:33.480 --> 00:46:36.920



for years. But that's all I'm gonna say about that86800:46:37.039 --> 00:46:41.360



certain thing. It's been there. It's obvious. I wish people86900:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.719



didn't just yell at us for years and again whenever87000:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.440



I bring it up with people through the years. Again,87100:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.800



I had the TV and traumatic brain injury, wicked concussion,87200:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.480



spider rud, a slab of concrete at the back of87300:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.320



my head in Iraq, whole long thing we can we87400:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.239



can get into that later. That was fun. But then87500:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.920



I had the second one when I got run over87600:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.920



and like what I have, like you know vertigo and87700:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.280



you know, memory issues at times where my train of87800:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.000



thought's gone. What I'm saying this from someone that has87900:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.960



had enough severe concussions, you know, just at my age,88000:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.639



Like I know what cognitive impairment looks like. And that's it.88100:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.159



That's nothing me coming from it as like a mean88200:47:22.280 --> 00:47:26.440



human being like I do have you know, some twitchy things,88300:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.920



memory issues. What I got on you again, vertigo that88400:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.599



kicks it out of nowhere, Like I I know what88500:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.599



it looks like and I would just get like roasted88600:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.480



that I'm just being this. I'm sure you've had it88700:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.000



where you just get yelled at because you're this, that88800:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.800



and the other thing. It's like, No, I actually have88900:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.880



some what I know what to look for. I know89000:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.199



the signs and that's what's been presenting this whole time.89100:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.360



And also, dear people of Scranton, stop let me accuse89200:47:49.400 --> 00:47:49.800



you as a.89300:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.519



Prop Yeah, I agree that that's that's he.89400:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.760



Hasn't lived there in eighty years. It's it's and I89500:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.559



can say from experience, the city is a pit of89600:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.239



what it used to be. The end. Moving on to89700:48:03.360 --> 00:48:06.559



the rest of the debate, I'm just gonna say that89800:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.239



from you know, the Orange Godzilla Hitler, I still love89900:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.280



that Greg Gottfield coin that one day. Man, I don't90000:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.960



watch them, but I saw that clip. I was like, yeah,90100:48:15.039 --> 00:48:16.840



that actually is kind of how they built him up.90200:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.840



But yeah, he would thought.90300:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.920



He they built the way yeah yep.90400:48:22.119 --> 00:48:23.840



Like and then Greg's like, what they made him the90500:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.039



orange Godzilla Hitler. I'm like, that's actually pretty good. You90600:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.480



should put that on coffee mug, you know what, And90700:48:28.519 --> 00:48:33.639



then they would buy it instant classic. But you know,90800:48:33.760 --> 00:48:39.039



I thought he did what he needed to do in90900:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.760



their first debate back in twenty twenty. I don't know91000:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.079



if any of you remembered. I do, as I was91100:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.400



in there just yelling shut up the whole entire time91200:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.599



because he didn't let Joe talk. He was just you know,91300:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.400



where's hunter? And he was just on the attack the91400:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.519



whole time. Agreed, Yeah, And I thought I was like,91500:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.840



what but that? But right there with you, just all91600:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.840



those independents that were on the fence, they were like,91700:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.119



it's his attitude. What you just proved everything that they've91800:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.480



ever said about you, and now you lost them. They're91900:49:07.480 --> 00:49:11.000



not going to vote for you this time around. I92000:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.679



think he did, you know, apparently someone told him when92100:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.920



I was yelling years ago, he acted like an adult92200:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.400



and he just you know, did his thing. He shut92300:49:19.400 --> 00:49:23.480



his mouth, and I think that really that was a92400:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.480



big win. Never mind everything, you know, all everything that92500:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.840



came out of it. My big takeaways. He acted like92600:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.119



an adult the whole time, and I think that helped92700:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.440



him with the independent people that were somehow still on92800:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.519



the fence about everything, because you know, I mean, it's92900:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.239



just been year after year they're just butchering the man. Yeah,93000:49:39.280 --> 00:49:40.679



he hasn't gotten a break the whole time. But I93100:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.039



think he did a good job holding it together. I'll93200:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.119



say he was much better this time around, and I93300:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.320



think that mission accomplished.93400:49:48.440 --> 00:49:50.360



I think that I think that it was a smart93500:49:50.440 --> 00:49:57.159



move on his part. The thing about Biden is, yes,93600:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.280



he's always been that way, and the only people that93700:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.880



have been talking about it were those that weren't towing93800:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.760



the line for the Democratic Party because we were paying attention.93900:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.000



The issue that the media has and trying to hide94000:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.920



their support and apologize for their position is because there's94100:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.039



only a few times that people in America pay attention94200:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.159



to politics, and one of them is the presidential election.94300:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.119



And now all of a sudden, everyone stops to watch94400:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.440



when they usually don't, and now everybody's like, what and94500:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.840



the hell is going on? Is this real?94600:50:28.039 --> 00:50:28.280



Yep?94700:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.440



Yeah, it's been real for over four something years before94800:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.000



he was eve elected. Well, yeah, he's been a politician94900:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.639



for his whole life. For one, he still shouldn't even95000:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.000



be serving the American people in my opinion at this point.95100:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.480



But again, as you would say, conversation to have it95200:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.519



another time, I'm sure, but Trump did the right thing95300:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.159



because by doing what he did. And I don't know95400:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.800



if this was under advisement. He literally just let Biden95500:50:55.920 --> 00:50:56.960



expose himself.95600:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.719



That's all he had to do the first time. And95700:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.800



this because independent they're not going to watch another one. No,95800:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.199



they watched the first one. They went whoa, And you know,95900:51:05.199 --> 00:51:06.760



I mean, I think it's going to be mussy TV96000:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.360



if they actually do another one. I mean, I know96100:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.320



they agreed to more. God knows if we're going to96200:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.480



see any but I think he I don't know who96300:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.400



told him to shut up. But God bless that man96400:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.639



for actually finally, because he tried it last time in96500:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.440



the second debate, but it was too late. All those96600:51:22.440 --> 00:51:26.880



independents were like, nope, he's a monster. This time he96700:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.280



went in and acted like an adult and he said,96800:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.199



let's not act like children. You're a child.96900:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.480



And that was amazing that he actually said that to97000:51:34.679 --> 00:51:35.559



Joe Biden.97100:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.440



Like, let's not act like children, you're a child. Yep,97200:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.400



but debate over right, But he just he dotted his eyes,97300:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.320



he crossed his t's, he did everything he had to97400:51:45.360 --> 00:51:45.960



do so.97500:51:46.199 --> 00:51:49.320



He would think that's he was definitely poised, confident and intelligent,97600:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.000



and he came off that way absolutely over Joe Biden.97700:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.000



Do you here's well, let me let me switch things up.97800:52:00.039 --> 00:52:01.880



I was gonna ask you some one question, but way97900:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.920



to go to what you've mentioned before and uh in98000:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.199



texting back and forth and this ties into this question,98100:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.159



or at least what I'm going to talk about. The98200:52:11.360 --> 00:52:14.159



you know what killed me about the debate was the98300:52:14.280 --> 00:52:18.599



media right away tried to say trumpled thirty two thirty98400:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.159



four times, four hundred times. But the interesting thing that98500:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.199



everybody missed while everybody was trying to push that rhetoric98600:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.519



is CNN literally fact checked Joe Biden right after the98700:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.599



debate and exposed how much he actually lied. And one98800:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.320



of those you had your you're sensitive too was his98900:52:36.360 --> 00:52:40.719



whole not one service person died under my you know,99000:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.880



under my presidency, and of course Afghanistan the disaster, which.99100:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.639



That's when I had to leave the house.99200:52:46.840 --> 00:52:52.880



Oh, I mean, please elaborate on how you feel about that. Yeah, Oh,99300:52:52.920 --> 00:52:53.360



I was.99400:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.480



I was, I don't know, like Hannah was in. Hannah99500:52:56.480 --> 00:52:58.239



was there because she actually wanted to watch the debate99600:52:58.280 --> 00:52:59.960



this time, and I was just sitting there kind of99700:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.159



just yeah and just holding onto my hair. And then99800:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.679



he said that and I started. I was like, I mean,99900:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.360



there you go, right what if that doesn't prove anything's100000:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.280



wrong with them? Right there? I mean thirteen of them100100:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.119



right after you took office in a coordinated attack that100200:53:18.159 --> 00:53:20.000



they knew when it was going to happen, where it100300:53:20.039 --> 00:53:24.079



was going to happen, and it still happened, and then100400:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.199



thirteen people didn't get to go home to their families100500:53:29.840 --> 00:53:34.880



over just sheer and utter incompetence. And the only person100600:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.280



that actually called for any accountability because there hasn't been100700:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.679



any I'm pretty sure, was Lieutenant Colonel Schiller. That was100800:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.800



his name, right, And we also how that worked out100900:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.880



for him. But he's doing well now, apparently he's making101000:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.400



lots of money talking. But I thought that him saying101100:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.679



that was the biggest slap in the face disrespect like ever,101200:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.480



because all of us that served, like I tried to101300:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.519



go to Afghanistan. They're like, no, Brah, you've been here101400:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.360



for ten months. You're going home. We're gonna to take101500:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.559



the new guys that got here halfway through the deployment.101600:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.039



I'm like, we'll screw the new guys. I want to go.101700:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.599



I did not win that argument, as you know, as101800:54:08.599 --> 00:54:12.159



a lance corporal didn't win that one. I tried, But101900:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.760



I know a lot of people that went. My friend102000:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.679



Alex that I mentioned earlier that got me to join,102100:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.320



he was there and lost you know, one of his102200:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.239



best friends. He was the best man at his wedding. Look,102300:54:20.280 --> 00:54:21.960



we all know someone that went there and did not102400:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.880



come back home. And the way that they left with102500:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.519



the tail between their legs and just gave everything right102600:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.559



back over. I mean we saw it happening on TV102700:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.760



for what weeks before, you know, everyone seemed to wake102800:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.239



up to it. But I know a lot of people102900:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.760



that were filling, you know, the same way when you103000:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.000



know everything happened Iraq in the state that it's in now. Yeah,103100:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.960



all of us that lost people, you know, I felt103200:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.599



that we were released. You know, we had some feeling103300:54:48.599 --> 00:54:51.039



of something like it was like we were all texting103400:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.880



each other when Afghanistan was falling apart, just in disbelief,103500:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.440



and there's a lot of anger. There's a lot of tears,103600:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.000



there was a lot of all of that. Just to103700:54:59.039 --> 00:55:03.519



see all of it quite literally be for absolutely nothing,103800:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.440



and to see him say that, oh, I had to103900:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.760



leave the house. So I called my master guns Patterson.104000:55:11.800 --> 00:55:13.559



I called his wife because he was an ANSWER's phone,104100:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.639



and I knew they'd have it on because they lived104200:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.800



down in San Diego right now. And I listened to104300:55:17.880 --> 00:55:23.079



it through speakerphone while I was outside because I was104400:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.239



pretty it salty.104500:55:26.679 --> 00:55:31.159



It was a complete disaster. How that was hanged beyond104600:55:31.599 --> 00:55:35.360



beyond a disaster, and it was it was basically just104700:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.320



slapping America in the face. I mean, everyone who served104800:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.400



and died, and the money we spent, everything that we104900:55:42.480 --> 00:55:46.400



did to try to stabilize that area, and in the end,105000:55:47.440 --> 00:55:54.119



he just dismisses it all with one action, and an105100:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.719



extremely offensive action at that.105200:55:57.719 --> 00:55:59.559



That's a very nice way of putting it. I don't105300:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.880



have that. I don't have that nice little vernacular when105400:56:02.920 --> 00:56:04.639



it goes to that situation.105500:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.880



But I usually have more choice words. I'm kind of105600:56:07.880 --> 00:56:09.800



holding back a bit on this one.105700:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.559



But I mean, you heard, you heard, I've gone. I've105800:56:14.599 --> 00:56:18.000



heard a few that happened. Go back and find that one.105900:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.320



I couldn't even tell what that was the first time back,106000:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.639



and I still posted them on like YouTube, you know,106100:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.599



and when I was doing, you know, everything back then106200:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.599



was still all through anchor where I didn't even think106300:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.719



to look and says they're explicit content. I didn't even106400:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.840



think to hit yes, and within like thirty seconds of106500:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.920



agoing up, they're like yeah about that, and they put106600:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.679



that band around there themselves. I'm like, yeah, I lost tracks.106700:56:43.039 --> 00:56:48.280



I was oh my, but that was again that happened.106800:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.159



All the money, the Taliband's much better armed now at106900:56:51.239 --> 00:56:52.960



least they were. They're selling so much of it off,107000:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.000



but like we actually left it in worse shape than.107100:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.519



We Absolutely there absolutely.107200:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.199



Caliban two point zero, their their business people. Yeah, that's107300:57:02.239 --> 00:57:05.239



why they're selling it all off to Hamas and yeah107400:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.320



it's those weapons have ended up proven in Hamas's hands107500:57:08.320 --> 00:57:09.960



and other terrorist organizations.107600:57:09.960 --> 00:57:10.239



You know what.107700:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.000



They just sold it all to them. So now it's107800:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.320



all of our stuff. And I don't know if you live.107900:57:14.400 --> 00:57:18.039



I almost like I tried one time, like but I108000:57:18.079 --> 00:57:19.840



didn't want to get thrown off of you know, TikTok.108100:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.400



I know, hey on me all you want people, It108200:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.800



gets me, you know, to interact with actually at least108300:57:26.800 --> 00:57:28.559



a few people too, you know, which helps past the time.108400:57:28.559 --> 00:57:33.400



But Harry Citizen I'm familiar, Like yeah, he was arguing108500:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.400



that well, it was all out of date equipment anyway,108600:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.320



and there I am just going please, like, and I108700:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.119



didn't have enough followers as I was just yelling at108800:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.119



my phone like it's all out of date equipment. I'm like,108900:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.360



you do realize that our out of date equipment is109000:57:44.400 --> 00:57:48.199



still like, yeah, decades ahead? What a lot of those people.109100:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.519



Have technologically way more advance than they'll ever be at109200:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.360



for years to come. I mean, like, is it all109300:57:53.360 --> 00:57:53.880



out of date?109400:57:53.960 --> 00:57:54.039



Like?109500:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.280



God, it's like feel statement, right, I feel?109600:57:57.719 --> 00:57:59.679



And that's the worst. Like when all of this comes109700:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.320



cross blowing down, which hopefully now in a few months,109800:58:03.119 --> 00:58:04.760



Like I just want to know what Harry is going109900:58:04.840 --> 00:58:06.280



to do the rest of his life, because he has110000:58:06.440 --> 00:58:10.360



shot every ounce of credibility that he's ever had right out.110100:58:10.280 --> 00:58:12.920



Of his nose, and he's like what twenty Well, I110200:58:13.719 --> 00:58:18.320



think most most social media personalities and talking heads, and110300:58:18.400 --> 00:58:21.000



I call them political entertainers to be quite honest, most110400:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.880



these people that that's a nice way they they they110500:58:26.119 --> 00:58:30.519



have decisions to make because once Trump's in office, what110600:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.159



are they going to do because their whole career is110700:58:33.199 --> 00:58:38.519



just built on bashing Trump? And after Joe Biden's debacle,110800:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.480



after the secrets that we're trying to be hidden from America,110900:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.639



have come out about his conditions and after Trump takes111000:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.079



office again, you know, barring some other strange shenan again111100:58:50.119 --> 00:58:52.599



at two or three in the morning with ballots and whatnot.111200:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.119



That hey, let's not talk We're not allowed to talk about.111300:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.679



That, fair enough. I was just throwing it out there111400:58:58.679 --> 00:59:00.800



because it's story. It's a story I got.111500:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.239



I got. I got my former brother in law, I111600:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.679



was friends with him for forever. I was like, He's111700:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.840



like what I was like. But to see all those111800:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.119



sixty thousand ballots that you have votes that came in111900:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.599



for him, He's like, what Joe Budden was Whitney on112000:59:13.639 --> 00:59:15.760



mail ballots. He's like, Joe Budden was winning two thirds112100:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.079



of Like, yes, two thirds, bro, what sixty thousand to112200:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.440



like it? It's like just basic Mathlet I know, you112300:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.960



barely graduated high school. The wait you dropped out? What112400:59:26.960 --> 00:59:30.519



what is two thirds? Like forty thousand? What you're gonna112500:59:30.519 --> 00:59:31.440



get at least one?112600:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.840



Well, that's all I'm saying.112700:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.360



What those numbers did not anyway, none of them made112800:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.079



and none of them really did add up when you112900:59:39.119 --> 00:59:41.440



can take in the population or the populace of those113000:59:41.440 --> 00:59:42.719



specific areas and districts.113100:59:42.719 --> 00:59:46.599



But one once Trump gets back into office, for example,113200:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.360



what are they gonna do. I mean, they can continue113300:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.840



to try to, you know, beat on him, pull him113400:59:51.880 --> 00:59:53.920



down and make them look bad. But it's his last term.113500:59:54.000 --> 00:59:58.480



Who cares? Yeah? And then what that's the thing that113600:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.480



I mean, are we going to still have Rachel mad113701:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.280



I was getting paid one hundred thousand dollars a day113801:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.360



or whatever the hell she gets paid. Once there's no113901:00:04.400 --> 01:00:06.679



more Trump to talk about? I mean, what's next? What's114001:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.880



next for these people? Do they actually care about America?114101:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.039



I want to talk about relevant topics actually affect Americans.114201:00:13.000 --> 01:00:17.800



No, I mean, come on, I don't know what they're114301:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.719



gonna do, but I mean four more years and then,114401:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.039



I mean, they're just going to run for four more years,114501:00:23.079 --> 01:00:24.920



and they're just going to keep running forever, even though114601:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.599



they realize he just keeps going and it doesn't It114701:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.679



probably just drives them even more to well.114801:00:30.719 --> 01:00:31.880



I think that's the beauty of Trump.114901:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.079



He said, I wouldn't be here right now. If you115001:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.480



guys just left be alone, what my life would be115101:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.920



a lot easier. But none of you could. You're right,115201:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.320



he did say that none to hell, and here I am.115301:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.320



He did say that that's funny.115401:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.239



I'd much rather be golfing right now.115501:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.599



And that's the beauty of Trump. He knows he could115601:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.679



stick it to him just by existing, just by being him.115701:00:51.719 --> 01:00:57.480



Breathing is like, well, yeah, who somber.115801:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.400



Let's go on to another sensitive topic. I have a115901:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.840



lot of opinions on this, and I'm sure you do,116001:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.280



especially being a service member or ex marine and whatnot116101:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.800



border security. What's your thoughts on that?116201:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.800



It's abysmal? Fun fact, by the time this finally comes116301:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.440



out episode three, my show will probably be out. And116401:01:18.559 --> 01:01:22.079



don't you guys worry. I've got pages and pages and116501:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.400



pages and pages and pages of numbers for everybody. I'm116601:01:25.440 --> 01:01:31.360



gonna say, it's been garbage. It has been garbage. It's116701:01:31.400 --> 01:01:33.880



going to continue to be garbage. I still like to116801:01:33.920 --> 01:01:37.880



know how. I think it was NBC ABC, one of them,116901:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.119



like a week ago posted that Joe Biden, you know what,117001:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.360



he dropped the numbers all the way down to eighty eight.117101:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.079



That wasn't in June. I'm like, that's cool because I117201:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.800



was on the Border Patrol's website and they don't have117301:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.079



June's numbers posted yet. So I'm still try to figure117401:01:51.079 --> 01:01:52.440



out where the hell are from.117501:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.599



I don't get them trying to stop spin that.117601:01:56.760 --> 01:02:02.039



But let's just go with the only part that saw117701:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.039



these numbers was like in the last let's say this117801:02:06.119 --> 01:02:11.159



century was George Bush. He had crazy high numbers in117901:02:11.440 --> 01:02:16.320



eight years. Those were bad. But those rate years, yeah,118001:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.519



those rate years, I mean obviously, I mean he kept118101:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.599



getting me lower there. Obama in eight years, his numbers118201:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.119



actually weren't catastrophic. You know, if you look at them,118301:02:25.119 --> 01:02:27.519



they weren't good, but they weren't catastrophic. Trump had his118401:02:27.599 --> 01:02:32.000



four years, and you know, total, it wasn't that bad118501:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.639



if you look at the numbers, like and I don't118601:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.559



understand how people can't just just Google search it like118701:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.159



it literally will pull up. Like I had a whole118801:02:40.280 --> 01:02:42.800



entire thing on the website that had twenty years of118901:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.960



data just sitting there in front of my face. You know,119001:02:46.079 --> 01:02:47.360



it took me five seconds.119101:02:47.280 --> 01:02:47.639



Da duh.119201:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.039



But uh he led in more people so far right now.119301:02:52.199 --> 01:02:56.000



And that's without June's numbers. Then we had like confirmed119401:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.920



in the last twelve years combined.119501:02:59.719 --> 01:03:00.199



Yeah.119601:03:00.039 --> 01:03:00.159



Uh.119701:03:00.199 --> 01:03:03.119



I in three and a half years, I did, I did.119801:03:04.079 --> 01:03:06.119



I did a special episode of All Back where I119901:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.880



went over this data and I also focused in on120001:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.519



il han Omar, one of my favorites, and I went120101:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.199



through her past and then also talk about the border issues.120201:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.639



And in that specific episode, I have a ton of120301:03:17.719 --> 01:03:19.840



facts and links that you could go and click on120401:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.519



in the show notes, and I got a lot of120501:03:21.519 --> 01:03:22.920



it from the Border Patrol website.120601:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.480



I'm just gonna say, she sucks. Oh I border sucks.120701:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.239



Let's we can get into ill hand another time, believing.120801:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.719



Yeah, the border bill sucked. The border bill, the one120901:03:33.760 --> 01:03:37.719



listening there's there's air quotes around it, thousands of indadmissible.121001:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.360



The funny the funny thing about the border. The funny121101:03:41.360 --> 01:03:45.400



thing about the border is three and a half years. Yeah.121201:03:45.400 --> 01:03:49.280



The funny thing about the border is that under Biden's121301:03:49.519 --> 01:03:55.360



presidency there I counted it their encounters with people and121401:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.400



actual encounters where they actually catch people, not people that121501:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.559



they don't catch, they get through. They already have encountered121601:04:01.599 --> 01:04:07.760



and caught and stopped seventeen hundred somewhadd terrorists known terrorists121701:04:07.840 --> 01:04:12.840



under Biden's watch alone. That number was nowhere near that121801:04:13.360 --> 01:04:17.320



under Trump's. And I think it's crazy that they want121901:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.760



to say, oh, you know, put on one of his122001:04:19.880 --> 01:04:24.239



campaign talking points. Now, is I closed the border? No,122101:04:24.280 --> 01:04:28.159



you didn't. Nobody opposed you closing the border. I'm talking122201:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.599



about Joe Biden. They just didn't like to kept stuffing122301:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.039



all this money in to go to Ukraine while trying122401:04:33.079 --> 01:04:37.400



to one of those things. Yeah, but yeah, and Trump122501:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.679



had no support. Yet somehow his numbers were about a122601:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.760



quarter what Biden's disastrous numbers on the border are.122701:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.760



I think, like official apprehensions, you can quote me, you know,122801:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.760



correct me where I'm wrong, But I think Trump's last122901:04:55.280 --> 01:05:00.639



three years combined barely beat Joe's first U alone.123001:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.079



Yeah. I think if Joe's first year were then wasn't123101:05:04.079 --> 01:05:07.199



his first year about one point two or one point123201:05:07.280 --> 01:05:07.960



four million?123301:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.480



Yeah? I have it underneath this drill sitting on here,123401:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.079



and the cable from my microphone is sitting on top123501:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.119



of that drill, and I'm not a chance and moving that.123601:05:16.280 --> 01:05:18.320



But it was.123701:05:17.960 --> 01:05:22.559



Somewhere up there. It was Comparatively, it was.123801:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.639



It was one of those like numbers you just leave123901:05:24.760 --> 01:05:25.400



like what.124001:05:26.079 --> 01:05:30.639



So another thing that was proven to be a lie124101:05:31.159 --> 01:05:35.000



on Joe Biden's side, aside from the economy itself as well.124201:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.920



But yet somehow, you know, the people with the POM124301:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.480



Poms on the Democratic side still want to cheer and124401:05:42.559 --> 01:05:44.840



jump up and down and say, no, that's a lie.124501:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.519



Worst ever under Trump, Biden's fixing the economy, the border's124601:05:48.559 --> 01:05:53.199



the best ever. I really don't understand how in America,124701:05:54.079 --> 01:05:56.960



you know, the only way to debate improve an argument124801:05:57.039 --> 01:05:58.599



is by doing so with facts and data. And when124901:05:58.599 --> 01:06:02.119



you prevent that, how does the other person still not125001:06:02.199 --> 01:06:02.679



believe you?125101:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.800



Yeah, I'm right there.125201:06:05.920 --> 01:06:06.719



I don't get it.125301:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.760



On a spiritual level, I feel, you know, but uh,125401:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.400



I did like that when you said, uh yeah, the125501:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.039



economy thing where I don't remember which network it was,125601:06:16.079 --> 01:06:17.760



but the first thing they put up there with you know,125701:06:18.559 --> 01:06:22.039



Trum's lies what he had the best economy ever? People125801:06:22.079 --> 01:06:25.400



what Joe Biden said it too right. It will be125901:06:25.519 --> 01:06:30.039



really comparing and contrasting economies right now. I mean, that's126001:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.440



probably not the best mark. And I also again former126101:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.480



brother in law, he stopped talking to me whatever, but126201:06:37.679 --> 01:06:39.679



he told me I was crazy because in December of126301:06:39.679 --> 01:06:44.480



twenty twenty, I refinanced this thing. It's beautiful home of mind.126401:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.440



I'm like, but I'm never going to see a rate126501:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.719



like this any type soon got in a quarter. Guess126601:06:50.719 --> 01:06:51.840



what jokes on him.126701:06:52.239 --> 01:06:54.400



Yeah, I mean literally and a quarter.126801:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.280



But I know what's about to happen with Mike because126901:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.400



I've been here. But I was paying attention while you were,127001:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.119



you know, going out bar hopping every night. I was127101:07:02.119 --> 01:07:04.400



actually paying attention to the world. And right now what127201:07:04.760 --> 01:07:05.719



they actually still think that?127301:07:06.119 --> 01:07:08.039



I mean, hey, were we to do this. We did127401:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.360



the same thing, you know, we saw where things were127501:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.440



at and did a REFI it got a low rate.127601:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.559



Now things are going back up to seven and under127701:07:15.599 --> 01:07:19.199



Biden's presidency. I mean, it seems like the American dream127801:07:19.360 --> 01:07:20.719



is not attainable anymore.127901:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.199



Yeah, just really isn't Probably the thing that pisses me128001:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.320



off the worst about it all. I mean, it's actually128101:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.000



infuriates me. That was just what does you say at128201:07:29.000 --> 01:07:30.639



the bottom up in the middle, out you know the middle?128301:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.079



Is it out to the bottom and the bottom just128401:07:32.119 --> 01:07:33.519



doesn't even know what to do anymore?128501:07:33.679 --> 01:07:35.000



True? I agree with that.128601:07:35.280 --> 01:07:37.880



Yeah, Like because they say it's working for everyone. Well,128701:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.039



the cost of everything's through the roof. That doesn't hurt128801:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.039



rich people. Mortgage rates are through the roof. That insurance128901:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.360



rates what I mean you name it, but interest rates129001:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.280



for loans if you want to get anything. What everything's like.129101:07:49.360 --> 01:07:54.880



That doesn't hurt the wealthy, that only hurts the normal folks.129201:07:55.639 --> 01:07:59.679



So I mean, yeah, this is all America has to129301:07:59.679 --> 01:08:04.760



know about Biden's economic plan versus Trump's economic plan. And129401:08:04.840 --> 01:08:07.559



it was very evident when Biden made the statement that129501:08:07.639 --> 01:08:15.079



inflation does not affect the cost of goods. I have129601:08:15.199 --> 01:08:17.479



no idea where he got that information or how he129701:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.720



even came to that conclusion. But good luck, I don't.129801:08:20.600 --> 01:08:21.199



Think he knows.129901:08:23.239 --> 01:08:26.239



I mean, you're literally devaluing the dollar. How does it130001:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.159



not affect cost of goods? As a business owner, I130101:08:29.159 --> 01:08:32.279



can tell you it absolutely affects cost of goods, cost130201:08:32.359 --> 01:08:36.399



of operations, employment tax. I mean, you name it, you130301:08:36.520 --> 01:08:37.920



name it across the board.130401:08:37.720 --> 01:08:42.680



Cost of cost of everything. Oh my, but remember remember130501:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.439



it's not happening. It's a right wing conspiracy theory. It's transitory.130601:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.760



It's your fault for buying things. Oh and then it130701:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.319



was Putin's fault, even though it was already up like130801:08:54.359 --> 01:08:56.279



over double triple what it was when they took office,130901:08:56.279 --> 01:08:59.239



before Putin ever got anywhere near Ukraine. But that's again,131001:09:00.079 --> 01:09:02.439



that whole entire thing is along conversation.131101:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.039



Complete agreement. How they could blame all this on Putent131201:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.560



when our own government is willingly funneling billions of billions131301:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.520



of dollars to support a country who, by the way,131401:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.000



nobody would ever do business with before because Ukraine, guess what,131501:09:15.319 --> 01:09:20.159



historically is a very corrupt government. Zelenski himself has arrested131601:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.159



his own political opponents and has disappeared people. Yes, but131701:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.560



somehow those facts are never talked about.131801:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.119



Yeah, and my mentioned Crystal earlier. Her mother actually met131901:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.760



a Ukrainian woman online through some I don't even know.132001:09:34.880 --> 01:09:36.399



I'm not even going to try to figure out how132101:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.119



to know. But they were talking for forever and she132201:09:39.239 --> 01:09:41.279



was actually right there and Kiev when all of that132301:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.840



was you know, and thankfully again she's in some other132401:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.079



country now. But she was sitting there talking to like132501:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.199



I was listening to conversations. She's like, well, do you132601:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.560



guys don't even know the half of it? But oh,132701:09:52.600 --> 01:09:55.840



I'm sure you don't even you don't even know with132801:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.840



this dude, I'm like, well, thank you for calling him132901:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.039



this dude. I'm sure you actually could have said something133001:10:02.079 --> 01:10:04.319



way worse than in Ukrainian and I never would have known.133101:10:04.920 --> 01:10:07.119



Thank you, Thank you for putting it into something that133201:10:07.119 --> 01:10:08.239



I'm not going to have to go and try to133301:10:08.279 --> 01:10:12.439



google later. Appreciate you than for being but hey, I133401:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.600



just well, it's not even really trying to remember. It's133501:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.399



just trying to because I'm taking German lessons and all that,133601:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.039



and it's just you know, it's not Ukrainian. But when133701:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.039



they say something, I'm like, I got like just trying133801:10:24.039 --> 01:10:25.800



to fathom how to spell it. I'm like, thank you133901:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.159



for saying this, dude, what because I'd be sitting there134001:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.800



for twenty minutes just trying to spell that. Then that134101:10:31.800 --> 01:10:35.159



would get me nowhere. But yeah, She's like, you guys134201:10:35.199 --> 01:10:38.680



don't even know, you'll never know. Ah, and I where134301:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.920



it's just a it's really just a money pit, except134401:10:42.920 --> 01:10:49.239



it's money pit, funneling, washing whatever you want to ye know.134501:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.760



Oh it's a big money. It's a big money.134601:10:53.159 --> 01:10:56.199



And we're never just I mean, I don't know how134701:10:56.239 --> 01:10:57.840



you feel about it, but I don't find it to134801:10:57.880 --> 01:10:59.960



be a winnable.134901:11:01.600 --> 01:11:06.079



Situation. You're talking about winnable between for.135001:11:07.520 --> 01:11:08.359



You know Ukraine.135101:11:08.359 --> 01:11:11.359



I just know it's not. It just doesn't. They just135201:11:11.359 --> 01:11:11.760



don't have.135301:11:11.800 --> 01:11:14.279



They don't have the resources, they don't have military resources,135401:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.239



they don't have the amount of people like, it's just135501:11:16.279 --> 01:11:17.039



one of those.135601:11:17.039 --> 01:11:21.199



I mean, they're kidnapping middle aged men. Yeah, to go135701:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.319



fight at this point.135801:11:22.399 --> 01:11:26.760



Yeah, like it's a it's a complete I got I135901:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.680



got note stacked up somewhere in this giant cluster of136001:11:29.800 --> 01:11:34.800



just my stacked stuff, her stacked stuff. But yeah, it's136101:11:34.840 --> 01:11:38.800



a yeah, that's that isn't money laundering. I don't know136201:11:38.840 --> 01:11:42.239



what is because that thing's just that thing sucked the136301:11:42.279 --> 01:11:46.520



whole time. But back to the moral Yeah, I don't136401:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.920



remember where we were, but blaming Putin for it. There136501:11:49.960 --> 01:11:50.199



we go.136601:11:50.439 --> 01:11:55.600



That was, well, we're talking about we're talking about Biden's136701:11:55.760 --> 01:12:01.479



disastrous statements that really was a disrespect to all American136801:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.600



all service members. And we talked about the lower of136901:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.279



security and I mean, basically we're just chatting about the137001:12:08.319 --> 01:12:10.479



twenty twenty four presidential election in general.137101:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.640



And I think people need to be more informed. That's137201:12:13.640 --> 01:12:15.119



why I'm glad there's people like you and me and137301:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.600



everyone else out there at least putting in the work.137401:12:18.079 --> 01:12:22.439



I feel like, I don't know about well, you stated earlier,137501:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.560



you know, you felt like you had to do this.137601:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.159



I got into this kind of for the same reason.137701:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.880



It's it's like I'm looking at the landscape and hearing137801:12:31.920 --> 01:12:38.720



everybody just talking. I mean just they're just speaking nonsense,137901:12:38.800 --> 01:12:42.119



and I'm sitting here going, look, if this clown could138001:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.760



be out here with a platform spewing a bunch of bullshit,138101:12:46.680 --> 01:12:49.520



then why don't I give this a shot? Why don't138201:12:49.520 --> 01:12:53.000



why don't I go ahead and tell the world a138301:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.760



little bit about things from my perspective, but also not138401:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.279



just an opinion, also present facts as well. I mean,138501:12:59.399 --> 01:13:01.399



let's be honest. We all have our own opinions based138601:13:01.399 --> 01:13:04.560



on our life experiences and how we go through things138701:13:04.640 --> 01:13:06.439



and what's thrown at us. I mean, we're all going138801:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.560



to have an opinion. But in the end, there's a138901:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.600



fact out there, and once you find those and uncover those,139001:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.000



I believe that is the duty of people like us139101:13:16.720 --> 01:13:18.840



to go ahead and present those to the world so139201:13:18.880 --> 01:13:22.960



people can see there's a truth and an alternate way139301:13:22.960 --> 01:13:24.520



of thinking or looking at it. And even if we139401:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.279



don't convince somebody, at least we threw it out there139501:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.000



and they had the opportunity to educate themselves. Just to139601:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.399



be quite honest, Jesse, I'll tell you I listened sometimes139701:13:32.439 --> 01:13:35.199



to some liberal or democratic podcasts and news, and there's139801:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.239



some times I'll go, oh, okay, I get it. I139901:13:38.279 --> 01:13:44.439



get their point. It makes sense, but not It's not140001:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.159



always the majority of time that that is the case,140101:13:46.199 --> 01:13:49.439



but it does. There's some things where I'm like, yeah, okay,140201:13:49.479 --> 01:13:52.439



that makes sense. So the problem I have, and I140301:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.640



don't know how you feel about this, especially being in140401:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.960



the political space as a podcaster or you know, whatever140501:13:57.960 --> 01:14:01.319



you want to call us these days, is I tried140601:14:01.920 --> 01:14:04.640



so hard to stay neutral, to look at both sides140701:14:04.640 --> 01:14:07.399



and present things from both sides, whether they were fact140801:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.520



fiction whether and call someone out on their ship as140901:14:10.520 --> 01:14:13.600



I usually say. But to be quite honest, it got141001:14:13.640 --> 01:14:15.960



harder and harder for me to stay neutral at times.141101:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.600



Oh yeah, how do you how do you feel about141201:14:18.640 --> 01:14:19.199



that statement?141301:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.279



One thousand percent? But the thing that I've been you know,141401:14:22.720 --> 01:14:27.079



I've worded it as nicely as I can lately, because141501:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.520



Hannah's always all one. Sometimes you start, I'm like, sometimes141601:14:30.560 --> 01:14:31.920



they leave me no other option.141701:14:32.640 --> 01:14:33.399



But is.141801:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.960



These people out there and again this goes you know,141901:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.159



because there's people on both sides that this, you know,142001:14:42.199 --> 01:14:48.520



goes along with. But people let their opinions make up142101:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.680



what the facts actually are. And whether they're going to listen,142201:14:51.760 --> 01:14:56.680



Unlike letting the facts change their opinion. Their opinion is142301:14:56.840 --> 01:15:01.159



changes the facts, and I think that when that happens142401:15:01.199 --> 01:15:04.680



as much as it does, because it's all over everywhere,142501:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.319



I mean, I don't know. I I mean I do142601:15:07.399 --> 01:15:10.479



try to, you know, watch both sides of the argument,142701:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.000



you know, and try to keep tabs just to see142801:15:13.039 --> 01:15:14.800



because I mean, again, like you said, every once in142901:15:14.840 --> 01:15:19.239



a while, I'm like that actually makes sense. Not very often,143001:15:19.279 --> 01:15:21.159



but every once in a while they hit, you know,143101:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.680



something out of the ball or you're like they actually143201:15:23.720 --> 01:15:27.880



aren't lying there, and it completely blows my mind. But143301:15:28.399 --> 01:15:32.760



there are certain topics where I just I she's even143401:15:32.760 --> 01:15:34.640



come in here, like while I was in mid recorning143501:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.960



and open the door. She's like, dude, And if you143601:15:38.000 --> 01:15:39.720



go back, you can even probably find some of those143701:15:39.760 --> 01:15:43.000



episodes where she's you're the door creaking open, She's like, bro,143801:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.039



Like what I tried, I tried.143901:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.159



What but please please just tone it down.144001:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.079



Like I heard too, what I try to be nice144101:15:51.079 --> 01:15:55.520



to like I try, But there's just sometimes where they're144201:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.560



just spewing just so much garbage and so many people144301:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.680



are eating into it, you know, just eating played after144401:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.079



played after plate of it, even though it takes nine144501:16:06.119 --> 01:16:10.000



seconds to like, and they're like even people have known forever,144601:16:10.039 --> 01:16:12.640



literally coming at me, just screaming, saying that I'm out144701:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.119



of my mind and on this, that and the other thing,144801:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.279



even though I'm like, and I'll send them the link144901:16:16.319 --> 01:16:18.600



and be like, no, really, dude, like that's straight from145001:16:18.720 --> 01:16:22.119



his own people, right, it's their website. That's not me145101:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.399



what that's that And they're still defending it and saying that.145201:16:24.439 --> 01:16:27.760



I'm like, so they make it kind of hard at145301:16:27.760 --> 01:16:33.760



times to uh stay neutral, as I mean, I always145401:16:33.880 --> 01:16:38.000



try anymore, like I'm trying to be again, I'm all145501:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.399



grown up now, Yeah, right, trying, But yeah, it's it's145601:16:42.439 --> 01:16:46.560



ever hard, I'd say, in today's climate, it's almost like145701:16:46.600 --> 01:16:47.680



to be able to do that.145801:16:47.920 --> 01:16:53.560



Yeah, it seems it seems a time that it's really fanatical,145901:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.159



and it can be fanatical on both sides, and sometimes146001:16:57.199 --> 01:17:00.279



I feel like it's really arguing one religion and over146101:17:00.319 --> 01:17:04.600



another because it's mostly faith based decisions, you know, as146201:17:04.640 --> 01:17:06.439



you would say, their opinions, but it seems like they're146301:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.520



operating on faith more than fact. And that happens on146401:17:09.520 --> 01:17:10.760



our side too. On the conservative side.146501:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.000



I mean that happens on.146601:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.399



I am not a far right fan, to be quite honest,146701:17:15.640 --> 01:17:16.800



it does get to a point where it goes a146801:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.159



little too far. I mean, you know, let's make sense146901:17:19.159 --> 01:17:19.560



of things.147001:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.680



There's there's crazy people on both sides, everybody absolutely and147101:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.000



in between yes and truth side, you don't even know147201:17:27.000 --> 01:17:27.600



where sides.147301:17:27.800 --> 01:17:33.039



Yeah, that's absolutely absolutely true. I well, I hope I147401:17:33.079 --> 01:17:37.680



hope that. Uh. I hope that the message gets out147501:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.680



there more, you know, not the indoctrinating message, but the147601:17:41.720 --> 01:17:46.680



message of you know, truth for example, presenting facts and147701:17:46.800 --> 01:17:50.119



maybe even opposing views that will help you see things differently.147801:17:50.960 --> 01:17:52.680



And that that's always been my hope.147901:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.920



Yeah, And we used to actually, like that's the thing148001:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.600



that has irritated me most because I don't again I could,148101:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.920



I was so young, so many head injuries ago, I couldn't.148201:18:02.960 --> 01:18:04.920



But we actually used to have that where we'd have148301:18:05.000 --> 01:18:09.479



like a person from each side, like on TV together,148401:18:09.640 --> 01:18:12.479



on shows together, just like debating the things and going148501:18:12.520 --> 01:18:14.479



back and forth. And that was the whole entire premise148601:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.279



of their thing. Now can't even be in like most148701:18:17.319 --> 01:18:18.640



of them can't even be in the same room as148801:18:18.680 --> 01:18:22.199



one another, and it's just so I want to say,148901:18:22.199 --> 01:18:26.319



tribal and fanatical, and it's just I don't know, I149001:18:26.319 --> 01:18:28.119



don't have an actual word for that.149101:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.600



Surprisingly well, and aside of aside from people just reading149201:18:31.600 --> 01:18:33.920



the headlines and not going into the details, I think149301:18:33.960 --> 01:18:36.439



the other problem that may have led to where we149401:18:36.479 --> 01:18:39.800



are now is you don't have a good representation of149501:18:39.840 --> 01:18:43.840



what an actual debate is. As you said, you know,149601:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.439



for the last I don't know, let's say eight to149701:18:46.520 --> 01:18:50.520



ten years, maybe more debates on the news as they149801:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.560



would like to call themselves, And that's me air quoting149901:18:53.720 --> 01:18:55.920



is just a bunch of people on the screen yelling150001:18:55.960 --> 01:18:58.840



over each other and not really having a conversation, so150101:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.680



you can't even make sense of what the holl's going on. Also,150201:19:01.800 --> 01:19:04.159



the presidential debates have gotten that way. It's more about150301:19:04.159 --> 01:19:06.680



slinging slanders and trying to make people look bad, like150401:19:06.680 --> 01:19:08.640



there are a bunch of schoolyard children right, just just150501:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.399



trying to insult each other than focusing on the actual150601:19:11.439 --> 01:19:15.600



issues and debating on those actual issues. And they get150701:19:15.760 --> 01:19:19.560



elected based on their popularity or how bad someone scolds150801:19:19.600 --> 01:19:21.760



the other and makes them look ridiculous, when it really150901:19:21.760 --> 01:19:24.680



should be based on what are their policies, what do151001:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.199



they believe in, and how does this affect America. I151101:19:28.199 --> 01:19:30.039



don't know why we got away from that or how151201:19:30.039 --> 01:19:31.479



that was acceptable to get away from that.151301:19:32.119 --> 01:19:36.640



I mean, that's why I don't watch like any of151401:19:36.720 --> 01:19:39.399



the primary debates, especially what they're in the Democrats. Last time,151501:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.600



they had like seventeen people on the stage at one point,151601:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.039



Like it was just mud slinging the whole time, and151701:19:45.319 --> 01:19:47.159



you know, that's what God is here. But I think again,151801:19:47.199 --> 01:19:49.840



like I said I said earlier, I think it's it's151901:19:49.880 --> 01:19:53.960



all been by design. They're just how they've set it up,152001:19:54.479 --> 01:19:57.399



so everyone's just so busy are doing with each other,152101:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.279



like literally every I mean it's just like again, go152201:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.239



on anything, everyone's there just you know, arguing with each152301:20:05.279 --> 01:20:08.279



other and throwing mud and everything else that they do.152401:20:08.720 --> 01:20:12.159



And it makes it it's by design because I mean,152501:20:12.199 --> 01:20:14.840



look at us all now, look at how many I mean,152601:20:14.920 --> 01:20:17.720



everything's just that way, whether it's on you know, news152701:20:17.760 --> 01:20:21.960



things and you turn on any social media influencer, I152801:20:22.000 --> 01:20:27.000



meny news headlines, I mean debates, everything's just mud slinging152901:20:27.079 --> 01:20:32.399



and so much vitriol across you know sides that now153001:20:32.439 --> 01:20:35.439



everyone's so busy doing that that no one gives a153101:20:35.520 --> 01:20:38.840



damn about what the stats are. No one cares about153201:20:39.039 --> 01:20:41.840



looking up anything. They're just so busy arguing with one153301:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.960



another that you know, now, that's all anyone sees. And153401:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.199



I think that makes it, you know, a lot easier153501:20:47.199 --> 01:20:49.279



for people to be like, that's what we're supposed to153601:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.600



do and tribalism, And I think that's the best word153701:20:51.640 --> 01:20:53.880



I can come up with for it. And I think153801:20:53.920 --> 01:20:57.199



that's what's gotten us so ignorant, I believe is the153901:20:57.239 --> 01:21:00.199



word you used, because it's easy to do whatever you154001:21:00.239 --> 01:21:03.279



want when everyone's too busy arguing with one another all154101:21:03.319 --> 01:21:07.000



the time. And that's all it's been for I don't know.154201:21:07.119 --> 01:21:10.359



I mean, it's been a long time. It's really really154301:21:10.439 --> 01:21:13.279



really really turned up to a million since a certain154401:21:13.279 --> 01:21:17.520



guy came down and escalator that there has been like154501:21:17.560 --> 01:21:21.079



civil conversations anywhere since then. It's just name calling the154601:21:21.119 --> 01:21:24.319



whole entire time, no matter where you turn, yes, and154701:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.720



it makes them, it makes it a lot easier than154801:21:26.800 --> 01:21:28.840



to be like what best border numbers ever? And we're154901:21:28.840 --> 01:21:32.399



just sitting there like in Worsting, they're going, ehh, yeah,155001:21:32.479 --> 01:21:35.279



except for most people are just going yep, sure, yeah,155101:21:35.319 --> 01:21:37.159



they see the headline, they keep moving on and they're155201:21:37.199 --> 01:21:40.119



just too busy, just attacking all the time. It's like155301:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.720



it's put the society just in high alert mode how155401:21:44.800 --> 01:21:45.319



all the time.155501:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.199



And I don't know, how do you feel about our155601:21:47.239 --> 01:21:49.920



future as a country right now?155701:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.880



The direction we're going? I mean right now? I mean155801:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.960



I still have all the faith. I mean, you still155901:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.840



have to have faith no matter how things are. But156001:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.800



I think we're gonna need because anything could be turned around,156101:22:07.119 --> 01:22:10.239



except for my marriage that couldn't. But that's another story.156201:22:10.279 --> 01:22:13.319



We tried, but anything could be turned around. I just156301:22:13.359 --> 01:22:17.279



think it's gonna take so much work to get us there.156401:22:18.439 --> 01:22:20.840



And I have faith. I mean I always try to.156501:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.800



I mean I always want to see the good. Yeah,156601:22:24.039 --> 01:22:25.720



you always try to see the best in everybody in156701:22:25.760 --> 01:22:28.520



every situation, even people who don't like you, at least156801:22:28.560 --> 01:22:32.279



in my experience, because you know that leads to you know,156901:22:32.479 --> 01:22:35.079



bad things down the road, having all those feelings. You know,157001:22:35.399 --> 01:22:38.039



for me personally, I tried to see the best. I157101:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.079



hope for the best. I think, you know, everything can157201:22:40.119 --> 01:22:42.520



be turned around, but we just need to have like157301:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.960



the biggest fire hose known to mankind like ever just157401:22:47.000 --> 01:22:50.960



sprayed down on everyone to douse the flames because everything's157501:22:51.079 --> 01:22:56.640



just been so go, go go for so long, and157601:22:56.680 --> 01:22:58.319



I just don't know how long it's gonna take, you know,157701:22:58.399 --> 01:23:01.159



if we get a chance to you know, get everything157801:23:01.199 --> 01:23:05.600



going in the right direction again, because I mean, I157901:23:05.600 --> 01:23:08.079



know people that are related to people that you know,158001:23:08.159 --> 01:23:10.079



stopped talking since everything just got so.158101:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.399



Yeah, so polarized.158201:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.680



Right, yeah, like everything's just so like I know, like158301:23:17.800 --> 01:23:20.039



literal family members that don't talk just because they're on158401:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.560



separate you know, like political sides. I'm like, you guys158501:23:23.560 --> 01:23:28.640



could still talk, you know, like you like, that's that's158601:23:28.640 --> 01:23:32.359



how you actually perpetuate the problem and don't get anywhere.158701:23:32.520 --> 01:23:35.880



Is again, no one can have conversations. It's just screaming158801:23:35.960 --> 01:23:40.159



matches all the time. And until we start doing that,158901:23:40.560 --> 01:23:43.880



you know, and having conversations, yeah, nothing's going to get159001:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.960



turned back around. But I always have faith that, I mean,159101:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.079



it's America, right, yes, I mean we've all been through159201:23:50.119 --> 01:23:53.079



some things. I mean through everything in my life, all159301:23:53.159 --> 01:23:55.479



you know, trials and tribulations. Just like everyone else, you159401:23:55.479 --> 01:24:00.319



can turn things around as long as you have the159501:24:00.359 --> 01:24:05.239



right mindset. And again, I funny you know, finally, after159601:24:05.880 --> 01:24:08.039



everything that happened before I got ran over, I finally159701:24:08.199 --> 01:24:11.319



was like screw man when everything's good, and I finally159801:24:11.319 --> 01:24:13.920



started turning the sheet, when a lot of things finally159901:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.079



started you know, dying down, turning around, and you know,160001:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.279



I just and I stayed positive and it worked that.160101:24:20.319 --> 01:24:22.960



I mean, if you have a positive mindset, we can160201:24:22.960 --> 01:24:26.960



get through anything. I believe, so honestly believe that. I160301:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.279



believe it's all you got to have. And that starts,160401:24:29.520 --> 01:24:31.800



you know, everything, the wheels turning in the proper direction.160501:24:31.840 --> 01:24:35.520



We have to get everybody there, and the flames desperately160601:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.960



need doaust because I mean powder keg.160701:24:39.399 --> 01:24:43.319



Good energy is infectious, right, yes, absolutely, and it will160801:24:43.359 --> 01:24:48.119



and it will definitely put out negative energy for sure. Yes,160901:24:48.279 --> 01:24:48.920



I believe that.161001:24:49.039 --> 01:24:51.840



So I don't think it's I don't think it's yeah161101:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.359



as hopeless as some people do. I think, you know, again,161201:24:54.439 --> 01:24:57.760



I was positive. There's always you know, there's always hope.161301:24:57.760 --> 01:25:01.399



Nothing's you know, to quote John Rambo, thing is over nothing,161401:25:02.199 --> 01:25:06.079



good Old Rambo Hey, first blood, but that was a classic.161501:25:06.159 --> 01:25:10.119



But absolutely nothing is over nothing. You don't just turn161601:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.680



it off and it you know, and that good is161701:25:12.720 --> 01:25:17.000



still in everybody. I just don't think anyone's calmed down161801:25:17.039 --> 01:25:20.479



and took a breath long enough to realize just how161901:25:20.920 --> 01:25:23.920



turned up everything has been.162001:25:24.800 --> 01:25:28.800



I I'm gonna say, I'm kinda well. I am glad162101:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.119



that we ran into each other, even if it was162201:25:31.199 --> 01:25:35.359



through you know, text messaging and zoom and whatnot. I162301:25:35.359 --> 01:25:36.600



have a feeling you and I are gonna have many162401:25:36.640 --> 01:25:38.000



more conversations, to be honest.162501:25:38.800 --> 01:25:40.159



H Hey, I'm down.162601:25:40.319 --> 01:25:43.159



I want to uh, we'll probably wrap this up here soon,162701:25:43.279 --> 01:25:46.640



but I do want to ask you about your artwork162801:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.319



that you brought up before. H What is that about?162901:25:50.600 --> 01:25:51.840



Can you explain what you're doing there?163001:25:52.600 --> 01:26:02.359



Well? You see, ah, this came about last year or163101:26:02.520 --> 01:26:07.000



me and my girlfriend's anniversary, because I spent all my163201:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.760



money on Yeah, because I didn't have a lot, to163301:26:09.800 --> 01:26:12.640



be honest here, I mean, things were a lot you know,163401:26:12.920 --> 01:26:15.279



more chaotic in life, yeah, at this point, you know,163501:26:15.319 --> 01:26:16.920



at that point last year. But I did it just163601:26:16.920 --> 01:26:19.239



a paint or something because she like sentimental things and163701:26:19.279 --> 01:26:22.680



she had like art supplies around and stuff, and so163801:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.359



I painted, like you know, our first camping trip that163901:26:25.399 --> 01:26:27.000



we did together. Like I put that on there, and164001:26:27.000 --> 01:26:28.319



if you look at it now compared to some of164101:26:28.359 --> 01:26:33.199



the stuff I did, I just laugh, like, literally you164201:26:33.239 --> 01:26:34.720



can tell what it is, but who.164301:26:36.720 --> 01:26:37.239



Of your skill?164401:26:37.319 --> 01:26:41.399



Right? Oh yeah, Like it was a rapid, rapid ascension164501:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.600



in my Yeah that's awesomely so that's what everyone tells me.164601:26:44.880 --> 01:26:48.039



But yeah, like I want to say, I don't remember when,164701:26:48.079 --> 01:26:52.600



but it was well over a year ago. I lost164801:26:52.960 --> 01:26:58.319



my mental health doctor at the VA uh again just164901:26:58.319 --> 01:27:02.520



because yeah, she moved on HHS offered more money. I165001:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.079



don't blame her. I know what her caseload was with165101:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.159



people you know here where I am, trust me, I know.165201:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.840



I lost my primary care doctor, which I still haven't165301:27:12.840 --> 01:27:16.760



had now again over a year and they still whole165401:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.880



other thing. And yeah, there's a lot of things just165501:27:18.960 --> 01:27:21.880



you know, irking me again. Like I told you, last165601:27:21.920 --> 01:27:26.800



year was just you know, rough between health stuff, you know,165701:27:27.720 --> 01:27:29.680



untimely deaths of people, you know all that. Like I165801:27:29.800 --> 01:27:34.239



just started painting and I found it to actually be165901:27:35.439 --> 01:27:40.600



quite therapeutic to just sit down and have a vision166001:27:40.640 --> 01:27:45.359



in my head and just go. And you know, I've166101:27:45.399 --> 01:27:48.680



started off with that archaic thing like it's awesome, but166201:27:49.640 --> 01:27:54.399



I've gone everywhere from you know, painting Captain Spaulding from166301:27:54.479 --> 01:27:56.640



Rob Zombie's House of a Thousand Corpses, Like his face166401:27:56.680 --> 01:28:01.159



turned out outstanding. Hid a whole lot of wrenches during166501:28:01.239 --> 01:28:03.319



Christmas times for people I gave him way as gifts166601:28:03.520 --> 01:28:06.960



like it was pretty outstanding, A real monsters. That was166701:28:07.000 --> 01:28:08.439



one of my favorites that I did. I don't know166801:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.399



how it turned out as well, especially as I painted166901:28:10.399 --> 01:28:13.399



the background colored like nine times because I never liked it.167001:28:13.479 --> 01:28:16.119



But that's at a new home and really I just started,167101:28:16.279 --> 01:28:18.479



I was like, let this actually because you know, it167201:28:18.560 --> 01:28:20.319



just sits down and you know, do you just have167301:28:20.319 --> 01:28:23.720



to put your mind on that and it helps, you know,167401:28:23.800 --> 01:28:28.239



actually clear a lot of you know, bad space out167501:28:28.279 --> 01:28:31.000



of your head if you do, you know, have any167601:28:31.039 --> 01:28:35.600



kind of stuff, you know again life in general, head injuries, PTSD,167701:28:35.680 --> 01:28:37.640



all those fun things. You know. It just it was167801:28:37.680 --> 01:28:41.479



really good and therapeutic and it helped, yeah, deal with167901:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.199



a lot of things when the VA wasn't there, you know.168001:28:44.479 --> 01:28:47.600



And again I don't blame my doctor. She had her caseload.168101:28:47.640 --> 01:28:49.079



I couldn't tell you the number, but it was just168201:28:49.159 --> 01:28:52.439



through the roof NonStop all the time. I didn't have anything.168301:28:52.439 --> 01:28:54.039



I didn't have anyone to reach out with her that168401:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.720



I felt actually aired again. That could just be my168501:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.640



area here. I do have the great there all just168601:29:00.720 --> 01:29:02.399



in the you know, ever in the world now. So168701:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.800



doctor Oaster, that's a shout out to you, because he168801:29:05.840 --> 01:29:09.279



handles everything for me now and he is a saint.168901:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.560



And I told him you better never leave. He chuckled.169001:29:12.760 --> 01:29:14.520



I'm like, I'm not laughing, bro, You're not going anywhere.169101:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.760



But I use that as just, you know, a form169201:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.039



of therapy. And I tried to turn it, you know, like,169301:29:19.880 --> 01:29:21.920



you know, just if I can make a few extra169401:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.079



dollars in the process, then you know, that helped too.169501:29:25.119 --> 01:29:27.159



But really it was just as a form of therapeutic thing,169601:29:27.159 --> 01:29:29.079



and there were just so many of them stacking up169701:29:29.119 --> 01:29:31.239



that I do it that way. And when I go169801:29:31.279 --> 01:29:33.279



down and see my other veteran friends when they're around,169901:29:33.279 --> 01:29:35.399



you know, I bring them art supplies and we sit170001:29:35.439 --> 01:29:38.560



down and we just you know, throw some pain around170101:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.800



and just laugh and reminisce. And I find it, you know,170201:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.159



to be just a really good form of therapy to do.170301:29:45.199 --> 01:29:47.960



I highly recommend it to everybody. I mean, because even170401:29:48.000 --> 01:29:52.039



if you don't think you're that good, I mean doing it,170501:29:52.039 --> 01:29:53.680



it really is a good way to help you clear170601:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.079



your head and get a lot of that dark matter170701:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.239



out of there and clear your headspace. So that's all170801:29:59.279 --> 01:30:01.600



it was. Enjoy it though I haven't done anything in170901:30:01.640 --> 01:30:04.000



a few months. Last painting I did was for my parents.171001:30:04.199 --> 01:30:06.399



It was my first underwater or anything. It was my171101:30:06.479 --> 01:30:10.720



first shark, dude, Like, everyone's like, that's a great shark. Like, yeah,171201:30:10.840 --> 01:30:15.520



and I'm not painting another one, h No worrying I171301:30:15.560 --> 01:30:17.439



will though, but yeah, I just used as a form171401:30:17.439 --> 01:30:19.239



of therapy and it turned into just I had so171501:30:19.399 --> 01:30:24.319



much and people, you know, really appreciated it, you know,171601:30:24.720 --> 01:30:27.279



more than I did, even because I was just doing171701:30:27.279 --> 01:30:29.520



it to clear my headspace and painting things that I171801:30:29.640 --> 01:30:33.840



liked and art therapy. It's a hell of a medicine171901:30:34.079 --> 01:30:36.479



and it's a lot better for you than any of172001:30:36.479 --> 01:30:39.560



the stuff they try to pump into your system through172101:30:39.600 --> 01:30:43.039



the VA. Again, that's a whole other day's worth of172201:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.000



conversation we can have about the VA.172301:30:46.039 --> 01:30:48.640



One of my uncles was on vacare. I know another172401:30:48.640 --> 01:30:51.640



person who is on VACARE. I mean, I've had some172501:30:51.720 --> 01:30:55.359



interactions I myself know, but I've seen what they have172601:30:55.479 --> 01:30:57.520



gone through, and I think that would be a great172701:30:57.560 --> 01:31:02.520



episode to where where you can revisit that conversation.172801:31:02.000 --> 01:31:08.119



For sure, so therapeutic, just like this.172901:31:08.319 --> 01:31:12.279



I hope, I hope that after this episode gets released173001:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.920



that this helps drive more traffic to your podcast, that173101:31:16.039 --> 01:31:20.600



Jesse Razinsky Show. Also though, you know, bring up your173201:31:20.640 --> 01:31:24.600



artwork and you have some items for selling Etsy. How173301:31:24.640 --> 01:31:29.039



can people support your efforts because a lot of people173401:31:29.039 --> 01:31:33.560



don't realize being an independent podcaster, we don't make money173501:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.479



doing this. It's very rare that we make anything at all,173601:31:37.039 --> 01:31:39.560



and we put a lot of time, lots of time173701:31:40.159 --> 01:31:42.600



trying to make these things happen. So how can people173801:31:42.600 --> 01:31:43.600



support your efforts?173901:31:44.880 --> 01:31:49.880



If you go on I got the Facebook page, Instagram174001:31:50.520 --> 01:31:56.239



and I think it's on x on exit's Jay Razinsky Paints,174101:31:56.279 --> 01:31:58.560



just because you only have so many characters. Otherwise it's174201:31:59.079 --> 01:32:04.119



Jesse Razinskys on everything that's the handle on Etsy as well.174301:32:04.279 --> 01:32:06.039



You could see everything that's on there, and you could174401:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.399



definitely see the ones that are older on there that174501:32:08.439 --> 01:32:10.760



I just look at and I go, I'll just give174601:32:10.800 --> 01:32:12.800



it to sell one for free if they pay for shipping.174701:32:12.840 --> 01:32:15.319



At this point, you know there's some of them, but174801:32:15.600 --> 01:32:18.800



Jesse Razinsky Creations on there and you know, on Etsy,174901:32:18.840 --> 01:32:20.920



and you could also mean message me on there if175001:32:20.920 --> 01:32:24.560



you have something custom that you'd like done, just you know,175101:32:24.640 --> 01:32:26.039



if I could do it, I'll do it because I've175201:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.199



had people you know, do that, and that's actually turned175301:32:28.239 --> 01:32:31.199



out to be some of the better things that I've done,175401:32:31.199 --> 01:32:33.600



even though I will say that the backside of Alcatraz175501:32:33.640 --> 01:32:35.479



and the Golden gate Bridge is probably the best thing175601:32:35.520 --> 01:32:39.279



I ever did, or the Grinches mugshot, but those are175701:32:39.439 --> 01:32:41.479



you know, arguments to have another day. But yeah, Jesse175801:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.479



Razinsky Creations on Etsy and there's stuff there again. I175901:32:45.560 --> 01:32:48.039



used to I'm going to try to start painting more.176001:32:48.039 --> 01:32:51.279



I've just been putting more time into you know, getting176101:32:51.279 --> 01:32:53.920



the show back, going in and getting all, you know,176201:32:54.000 --> 01:32:59.800



everything proper and done right. So I haven't updated anything,176301:32:59.840 --> 01:33:02.920



so I haven't touched anything. I mean I've touched the paint.176401:33:03.560 --> 01:33:05.439



I haven't done anything. I haven't found that right motivation176501:33:05.479 --> 01:33:06.680



because I've been doing the show. But if you go176601:33:06.680 --> 01:33:10.680



on Jessersinska Creations free shipping, I'll do a custom anything176701:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.039



if I can do it. And again it helps bring176801:33:13.079 --> 01:33:14.800



a little bit of stuff. I used some of it176901:33:14.840 --> 01:33:18.359



to help get a you have to pay for what177001:33:18.520 --> 01:33:20.239



I get. I got a micro I got my microphone177101:33:20.319 --> 01:33:22.520



right here with money from that, so I didn't have177201:33:22.600 --> 01:33:25.479



to go out of pocket for that, so I could177301:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.640



actually have a decent microphone. So it does help. And no,177401:33:29.800 --> 01:33:32.520



we don't really make any money off of doing it,177501:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.680



so every little bit, you know, it helps and a177601:33:35.720 --> 01:33:38.640



piece of me is on that canvas.177701:33:38.680 --> 01:33:41.279



So well, at this point, how often do you drop177801:33:41.319 --> 01:33:42.039



an episode?177901:33:43.359 --> 01:33:44.279



Every Wednesday?178001:33:44.439 --> 01:33:47.920



Every Wednesday? So since once a week you're releasing an episode,178101:33:47.960 --> 01:33:51.359



you got a new one coming out already tomorrow morning, tomorrow,178201:33:51.399 --> 01:33:55.840



so everything releases were recording on Tuesday, July ninth, So178301:33:56.039 --> 01:33:58.000



July tenth, there will be a new episode and every178401:33:58.000 --> 01:34:02.000



Wednesday after that. So I encourage everybody to go listen178501:34:02.039 --> 01:34:04.960



to the Jesse Razinski Show. I hope that you get178601:34:05.000 --> 01:34:07.039



a ton of traffic there and a lot of support.178701:34:08.119 --> 01:34:09.600



I just want to thank you for your time. I178801:34:09.640 --> 01:34:10.039



really do.178901:34:10.279 --> 01:34:12.560



I appreciate the conversation. Thank you, Oh this is good.179001:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.760



Thank you for reaching out like U again, like I've179101:34:15.800 --> 01:34:19.600



been like I was honestly like it was one of179201:34:19.640 --> 01:34:21.560



those like I saw and I'm like, am I being punked?179301:34:22.760 --> 01:34:22.960



No?179401:34:23.319 --> 01:34:27.039



Not this doesn't happen ever, and then I think I179501:34:27.079 --> 01:34:28.039



just dated myself.179601:34:28.760 --> 01:34:30.920



Oh shit, job Ashton Kutcher.179701:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.239



But I just you just got punked. Yeah, and but179801:34:34.399 --> 01:34:36.279



time is precious, and you know, to get to sit179901:34:36.359 --> 01:34:38.760



down and talk to anybody you know and have an180001:34:38.800 --> 01:34:41.760



actual conversation again doesn't happen all the time. And to180101:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.159



get to hit a bunch of stuff is you know,180201:34:43.840 --> 01:34:46.600



very appreciative anyone that's listening, you know, to this, even180301:34:46.640 --> 01:34:48.239



if you don't check me out, but like you for180401:34:48.319 --> 01:34:51.279



listening to us, because you know, again, once you go180501:34:51.319 --> 01:34:53.479



through enough and you but the older you get, all180601:34:53.479 --> 01:34:55.159



the times you're growing up and they're like, time is180701:34:55.159 --> 01:34:57.079



precious and you're like, yeah, sure, and I'll get out180801:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.159



of the way because you have a million things to do.180901:34:59.199 --> 01:35:03.039



What time really it is? And even if my brain181001:35:03.119 --> 01:35:06.079



never turns off until about an hour or so after181101:35:06.119 --> 01:35:08.960



I take my sleeping beds from the VA, shout out181201:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.199



to that that's the one good thing they do. And181301:35:11.239 --> 01:35:13.399



really they're both my grant suppressors. They just happen to181401:35:13.399 --> 01:35:18.079



render me unconscious, which is great because I don't sleep otherwise. Yeah,181501:35:18.479 --> 01:35:23.199



my brain's always going, and yeah, just to let me181601:35:23.239 --> 01:35:26.560



into her wherever you are, your car, your house, whatever.181701:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.560



I appreciate the time, and you ask what I'll do181801:35:30.600 --> 01:35:30.960



it again.181901:35:31.079 --> 01:35:33.159



I'm glad you're doing. I hope people find you and182001:35:33.880 --> 01:35:38.000



I encourage them to listen to your show. So again,182101:35:38.159 --> 01:35:39.520



thanks for your time, and I know that you and182201:35:39.560 --> 01:35:42.319



I will have more conversations for sure. Actually I'm very182301:35:42.880 --> 01:35:47.079



very sure though, so yes, sir, all right, well, thank you,182401:35:48.000 --> 01:35:48.399



thank you,