July 10, 2024

30 - SPECIAL GUEST, JESSE RUCINSKI

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We welcome to show, Jess Rucinski. He is a former Marine and is now the host of The Jesse Rucinski Show. Jesse is a fellow independent podcaster in the news and politics categories, who often tells it like it is while backing up his statements with facts. Jesse is also an artist and a supporter of military veterans. 

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You are listening to a fons media Network Production. Welcome

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to this special episode number thirty of World Ablaze with

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yours truly, George Fonse. Today I have special guest Jesse Razinski,

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former marine and current hosts of The Jesse Razinski Show.

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He is an independent podcaster in the news and politics category.

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He's known for telling it like it is while backing

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it up with truth and actual data. We thoroughly enjoyed

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speaking with Jesse, and I'm very confident that you will

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enjoy this conversation as well. So please sit back, relax,

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and enjoy the show. Okay, today I have Jesse Rasinsky

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with me. And I came across Jesse when I was

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on Good Pods and I was doing some promotion. I

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came across this podcast and I started listening to it

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come to realize that he's very similar to what we do.

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We have similar views, similar outlooks, and he's also an

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independent just like we are. So I thought I would

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reach out and see if he would be interested and

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just hanging out on the show, and I'd like to

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get to know him better and let the audience know

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him better and also just pick his brain on a

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few things. So welcome Jesse, and we did talk a

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little bit earlier. But how are you doing today.

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I'm doing, you know, I'm doing fantastic. And I appreciate

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the time because time is precious.

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So it very much is, very much is. And I'm

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glad you're here too.

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Man.

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I appreciate you agreeing to do this. I have some

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notes and whatnot that you know, based on info that

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you sent me previously. We had, you know, some back

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and forth and you know, trying to prep for this,

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and if you're okay, I do want to ask him

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questions about your backgrounds, just so we can set it

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up a bit so people understand where you come from

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and how you came to be where you're at. And

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one of those things was the Marine Corps. And I

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remember you said, or you sent me anyway, the information

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stating that you joined them back in two thousand and six,

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and so you achieved the rank of sergeant I believe

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was e five. You said, Is that correct?

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Yes, sir, okay.

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I was going to ask you because you I forget

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the town where were you born and raised?

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While I was born in the beautiful, beautiful city of

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South Brunswick, New Jersey, Okay. And then thankfully we moved

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and I was raised in the much more beautiful, small

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little town of Whitehaven, Pennsylvania, up in the Poconos, to

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the little place love it.

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Really, how long were you there in that town?

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Fourteen years?

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Fourteen years? So, how old were you when you joined

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the Marines?

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I was already, you know, swore in and said to

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go to boot camp before my eighteenth birthday. But I

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left for boot camp two weeks after my eighteenth birthday.

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Was that something like where the Marines something specifically that

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you wanted to do that in your mind you already

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wanted to be a Marine.

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I mean, it was one of those by Buddy Alex,

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who I graduated with. He was already in the delayed

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entry program and did all that, and he just happened

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to offer. By Buddy while we were sitting in some

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computer class in high school first period. Couldn't tell he

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was first period. I was barely eaving conscious, but he

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asked him if he wanted to join, and I was like,

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thanks for asking me, Bro, And there was a good chuckle,

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and I figured if I was gonna know join one,

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no offense to the rest of them, but I was

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going to go join the best and the crazy ones

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and yeah, my mom was pretty set, actually pretty easy

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on that one. It was probably the best decision, easiest

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decision I made my entire life.

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Really want to elaborate on that a little bit.

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I mean, I must say that I had the great

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is probably you know, one of the greatest Brine Corps

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recruiters of all time. You know, shout out to Ron

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Krumanacker wherever you are right now, but he was a great,

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great salesman. And you know, it's just the amount of training,

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you know, how long we do everything compared to everyone else.

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You know, our distance is longer on marksmanship, you know stuff.

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You know, it's just there was just more to it,

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and it was more elaborate and the longest one that

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they had there. And I was like, yeah, you know

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what I think I can I think that fits my

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mentality at my temperament pretty you know, pretty well, because

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I mean it wasn't always as laid back as I

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am now. I still have my moments, but back then

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it just fit, you know, because I was just go

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go go by energy, high testosterone, just a million miles

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an hour, and everything that they sat in front of

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me made complete sense and fit into all of that.

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So no, offense to the other branches of their recruiters

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that they didn't sell me that well. They tried didn't

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work though.

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So the demands, expectations, and basically the bar that they

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set really appealed to you in your personality.

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Yes, it was. Couldn't have been any more perfect fit

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at that point in my life if I tried, minus

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how shy I was. But don't worry, I grew out

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of that too. Look at me.

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Now right now, you're a podcaster among other things.

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I'm sure man, the people in high school when I

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started the podcast are like you started or what? Like yeah, no, right, Well,

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we were friends for twelve years and I only said

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like fifteen words to you.

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Wow. How long were you in the Marines?

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Total? It was four years, eleven months and nineteen days.

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I only remember the eleven months and nineteen days so

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well because I was on med hold because I had

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knee issues before I deployed, okay, and then I finished

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off my knee issue while I was in country like

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halfway through it, and then by the time I got

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back it was just yeah, everything was torn and blown

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to Jesus. So yeah, I was on that hold for

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a while till they said, I was put back together

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enough to go onto my future endebbors. As they put it, what.

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Was wrong with your knee? I mean you're okay answering

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that question?

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Oh yeah, yeah. I mean to make a long story short,

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I first, yeah, had the problem in December of seven,

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so it was very early on just because we were

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running way too much. They told me it was runner's knee.

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For three months. I'm like, it's still swollen. I haven't

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run on it, and yeah. So I went and deployed

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and did all that, and then by the time I

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got back from the deployment, I needed a new knee cap.

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My meniscus was shot. Tell us, yeah, that's done. My

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ac L, MCL, and PC all all had like multiple

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partial tears in it going all the way down it,

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and my achilles was it wasn't in the greatest shape,

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which is why I know how a piece of a

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cadavers shinbone screwed into my achilles to keep it taught

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for the rest of my life or until they replaced

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the thing. But pretty much I just blew everything in

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their pieces. Wow, I mean, long story short.

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Yeah, sounds like they literally rebuilt your entire knee, plus

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you have you have something there to hold your achilles together? Yep. Wow,

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that's crazy. And that was just all from the workload

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of running and doing what you do on the terrain

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every day.

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Yeah, I mean, and my platoon wasn't mean anyone that

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was in there. If they, I mean, they'll comment if

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they listened to this. We ran and ran and ran

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and ran some more. And we were going like ten

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to fifteen miles a day down dark tank trails and

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if you've never seen a tank trail, they'd leave really

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big ruts and stuff. When you can't see it, parts

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of your body twist and pop that shouldn't and when

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you're jumping up and down off the tanks all day.

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I mean, it was just sooner or later it was

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gonna happen. Then it was amazing when it finally went

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out and like fully went out in Iraq, Like that

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was one of those that was an experience. There was

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a lot of There was a lot of laughter that night.

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Don't ask me how, I don't know, because it sure

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didn't feel good, but we were all laughing and that

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was the important part. And I finished out the deployment

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and came back and three knee procedures later, they finally

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told me that my services were no longer needed.

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Wow, So just like that, they were done.

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Oh yeah, Like I was supposed to get out of

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October twenty third, and they pulled me into the office

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on a Thursday, I believe, and they're like, you're getting

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out the twenty third. I'm like, I know, and they're like, no,

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like the twenty third, like now next week.

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That's wow, that's great. I'd you feel this? How did

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you feel about that decision? I mean, were you ready

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have given the injuries and everything, or were you were

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you still wanting to to finish out your term?

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I mean I and it was one of those I

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was ready, but I mean you can never be ready.

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And I thought we were going to work on my

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right knee afterwards. But yeah, that's still an argument with

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the VA and a whole other story that we'll get

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into it some other time in my life. But I

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mean it was one of those I was ready for October.

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I wasn't so ready to have it thrust upon me

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with like five days notice because I didn't have like

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all my stuff, like final physical, my VA stuff to

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get that started before I got out, Like all of

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that was scheduled for months down the road, and I

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couldn't move it in time, and that's just you know,

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so I was, but I wasn't. I'm thankful though that

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you know, it turned out, you know, the way it did,

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because even though it was you know, a cluster, it uh,

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it worked out you know, fairly good all things considered

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with it.

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So it's all in all your mixed emotions, yeah, mixed emotions,

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but all in all your you're okay.

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Yeah, all the things been how it all went down.

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I mean, it could have been a thousand times worse.

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I know people that had it way way worse than

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I did, with medical stuff that never got fixed. So

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all in all, they gave me three procedures. They tried

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to fix it three times. None of them stuck just

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because there was so much and yeah, that was all

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they could do. So I took it. Didn't like it

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at the time, but I mean, who was going to

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It's one of those things. But oh, in all, I

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think it couldn't have worked out, you know, any better

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for it being moved up as much as it was.

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Well, that's good to hear. I was going to go

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back to your deployment in Iraq, And uh, how long

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were you there?

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Just under a year? We were roughly just under the

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ten month mark, like by a couple of days. Supposed

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to be there for fifteen. We came back after ten

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thanks to the first of the eighty second for coming

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out early. They robbed me of a few months and

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that extra thousand bucks you get every month you're there

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after twelve. Don't worry. I still remember that.

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Were you were you deployed or did you volunteer for that?

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I mean, had it?

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Oh? I volunteered. I volunteered to deploy.

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Oh did you?

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Because tank battalion, Tank battalion, they only have you know,

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there's only first tanks and second tanks, I mean at

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the time, and second tanks doesn't even exist anymore. But

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you know, only one company, one line company, because you

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only have H and S Company, and we had Alpha Bravo,

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Charlie Delton. I think we stood up Echo at that point.

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You Oh, and only one line company got to deploy

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at a time, So they asked for people to volunteer

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to go. You have to three separate places. And I

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just threw my hand up in air as fast as

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I could to get as far away from that place

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really just because you know, if I didn't do it

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then I mean most people I've known people that were

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there for you know, eight years, and they never got

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to deploy. They never got to go anywhere, just because

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you know, it's such a small thing. They're not allow

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of them to get to go anywhere, especially as a

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mechanic like operators, they all get to go. But every

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line company only had a select number of mechanics, and

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we were getting so many extra mechanics, you know, like

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every time the school graduated a class, we'd get like

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another fifteen. So we were just piling up, and you know,

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at some point it's just not possible or feasible for

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you to get out. So they said who wants out?

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And I threw both my hands in the air and

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I ran out those doors fast as humanly possible.

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So you were you were wanting to get deployed, like,

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oh yeah, you just wanted to get away, yeah, from

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from where you're at and actually go fulfill your duties

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as Amarine, you know, based on how you were training,

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what you were meant to do.

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Go do something, yeah, Like yeah, I mean that was

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like the whole goal. That was one of them. When

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you know, I joined the Marine Corps is you know,

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you get to go on a deployment and you just

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get to go actually do the thing and yeah, see,

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yeah things outside of the country here and you know

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how everything is over there and what was actually happening

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and you know all of that. And again I didn't

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get an option before that, just because there were so

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many people in front of me to go to line

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companies and I would like please, and it really was me.

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It was just tank telling ask anyone that was there.

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It's like the most joyous and miserable place on the planet.

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And I still love it dearly, but I needed to

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get out of there, and thankfully I actually got like,

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out of the three, I didn't get to pick which

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one I wanted to go on. I just threw my

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name in the hat to go on one of them,

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and thankfully actually ended up on the one that I

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wanted out of the three, so that one actually worked

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out really cool as well. I didn't get lucky much,

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but that was cool.

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So so once you were there, in your time spent there,

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what was your experience like in Iraq at that time?

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So surprisingly, you know, we didn't like when we got there.

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We took over from an army unit that had the base,

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and we took over. So we had like we built

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a giant concrete wall and compound around us. The little

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village right outside the gate there. Those people were bringing

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us food and helping us build this wall, you know.

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I mean again, they tried to blow us up a

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few times. Things happened, get shot at, things happened, you know.

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I mean, it's a deployment, sooner or later, those things

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are bound to happen. But I mean it was just

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as crazy as it sounds, because I mean we were working.

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Sometimes we wouldn't get off the road until like, you know,

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back until like five five thirty in the morning, and

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then we'd immediately go into regimental pt which I still

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think is really dumb to have us all together in

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one spot in that situation. But a whole other story again,

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but we were working like sun up to way too

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early in the morning, six days a week, and it

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just it's weird to say it was like a vacation,

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but I mean, when you're here all kinds you know,

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stateside and you're doing it like all kinds of you know, family,

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you know, all kinds of life things happen and the

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unexpected stuff that you know, we all go through. That

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was you know ten months where it was just work

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and then work and then work and then go on

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the road and then run and you know, grab your

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laundry from people, you know, try to get some chow

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if you can, and then go pete and then back

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to work. And and it was like that, you know,

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it was just continuous without any you know, any crazy

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unexpected stuff.

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Yeah. It's almost like you didn't have time to really

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take it in and they just just kept going.

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Oh yeah, we were it was you know, we were good.

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But again we were where I was. It really wasn't

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having too much you know, really just anything crazy going on,

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which you know, thankfully we didn't have a lot of

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We got into situations when we were outside of the walls,

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but we were inside the walls. It was you know,

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just we got to see the culture. We got to

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you know, I mean I did get to interact with

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a lot of sheikhs and you know just civilians that

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were working you know on base for us and do

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all that. So you know, I got to do a

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lot of that stuff. But it was busy, busy, busy.

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It was really hot, and I'd probably some of the

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best time of my higher life, as odd as that

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might sound to some people, but they were going to

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get that back again. It was. It was a great time,

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you know. I mean I did my job, I did

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it well, and we got a lot of the movie.

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Accomplished everything that we add to more than we probably

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you know, had do because we were just getting volunteered

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to do everything, and it was it was a hell

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of an experience. I mean, part of my French but

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I will say that like that was that was amazing

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and it was completely different culture really, you know all that,

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but sometimes you got to take it in. You know,

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during sandstorms you really got to stop and sit down

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and think when you were just stuck inside for days

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on end. But otherwise, yeah, I was so busy that

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you didn't notice anything.

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You also gonna ask you when you you know, what

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your experiences and interacting with different cultures outside of the

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United States, I mean, did any of that when you

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came back or even while you were there, affect your

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views after on how you saw things?

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I mean the whole grand question of why or even

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here thing. I mean, yeah, I've had those deep conversations

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with that. But the people over there that you know,

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at least the ones you know, whether it was the

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engineers that you know, went to school for that, it

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was their workers because every time they were there, if

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I got stuck, you know, if I got through the

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straw for you know, security detail, and just watching them

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while they were there doing stuff like I don't know,

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it's like they were I mean as much like regular

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you know, just regular like me, like when I was

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working a job before the Marine Corps. Like they were

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just there, all of them, like they had They were

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just there trying to make waye you know, make money,

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to feed their family, yeah, to try to better their lives,

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you know. And it was really freakishly how similar we

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all were with them. That makes any sense, it does.

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I think I think it's crazy. Yeah, I think it's

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crazy most people. You kind of come to find that

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humans are human, Like we're all, we're all people, we're

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all in the in the end wanting to try to

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get the same thing, food, shelter, you know, safety.

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Doesn't matter where you are, it's all they want, right

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And that was because I always you know thought that

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and it was nice to go and you know, actually

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physically get to see that with the many, many, many

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you know, different people that I got to work with.

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And again, it was all the way from like you know,

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higher up their sheiks, all the way down to you know,

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general labors, and for the most part, I mean we

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all just sat there and laughed and you know, talked

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about our families and you know, just basic stuff. And

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that was that was probably the best part about all

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of that, because you always hear all kinds of you know,

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no matter where you go here, all the noise that

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people make about it, but generally, no matter where I've been,

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everyone just wants the same thing, and there's no hard

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feelings towards us. You know, they all had their views

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on everything was before all of that, but there was

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no hard feelings towards us. They just wanted, you know,

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break bread, have lunch, have laughs, go home to their family,

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and repeat. And I really I appreciated that more than anything.

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So it was a It's not like you ran into

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a lot of individuals necessarily that had extreme views and

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were promoting violence and whatnot while you're deployed. I mean,

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obviously we were there for a reason, but in your experience,

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that wasn't like the day in and day out for you.

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Yeah, I didn't. It wasn't at all. The on went bad.

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You know, times I had to worry about those people

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is when we were on the aptly named graveyard that

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was the name of the road that was, and we

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always ran into some of those type people that made

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things kind of interesting at three point thirty in the morning.

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Wow.

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Especially, I don't want to know why they named the

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I mean, I know what we all know why they

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named the graveyard.

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You know that was.

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And I never actually had to deal with any of

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those people, but all the you know, civilian base, they

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were all really actually good, honest people, and I respected

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all of them for it because it proved what I

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thought about, you know, humanity is yeah a whole most

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of us just want the same things.

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And yeah, but that was that's good to hear. That's

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good to hear from me, because you know, when you're

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when you're cut off, you know, as you know, living

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in America, we're all a lot of people just only

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believe what they're told or or being reported about, right,

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and you're led to believe, you know, this person bad,

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that person evil. You know, America is the enemy to

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the world. Et cetera. And it's always good to hear

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someone else's perspective actually has been out there and to

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bring back testimony of well, you know, people are people.

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We all kind of want the same things. It's unfortunate

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these conflicts happen and we're all caught in the middle

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of it. But I think the average person would rather

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not be in those conflicts whatsoever. So exactly, it's it's

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it's good to hear. I'll gotta be honest, it's good

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to hear what you had to say about that. And

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it wasn't you know, fortunately for you and not all

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gloom and doom.

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So yeah, I got lucky together. I got the one

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that I wanted. I got sheer luck, and everything was

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it was what you'd hope it. Yeah, to be within

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the civilian base everything, and it was it was touching

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to see it.

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What what year did you I don't I you probably

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said it, but what do you What year did you

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get out of the Marines?

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Twenty eleven?

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Okay, twenty eleven, that's when you got it. I don't know.

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Were you always this this question? I'm kind of trying

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to say that. So were you always a conservative leaning

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in your views before you deployed. Yeah, okay, and then yeah,

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after coming back and experienced what you did, did it

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change anything about your views as far as you know,

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when you came back to the United States to live

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back as a back here as a civilian.

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I mean, it's just I think embolden is the best

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word my feelings towards you know, the machine as I

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like to call it.

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Yeah, the machine.

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Some people call, you know, some people called a swamp,

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some people call whatever what I just call it the

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big machine that keeps chugging and you know, promoting all

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this and you know, all you gotta do is turn

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that stuff off and just go talk to people.

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I was going to I was going to go into

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one of the stories that you were telling me earlier.

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So you come back, you know, your experience was good,

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you survived, everything was fine, come back and on. I

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believe this is after you came back on a Thanksgiving

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you got hit by a truck, but as a pedestrian,

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you weren't in a car. You got to hit walking.

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Is that correct? Yes, sir?

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What the heck happened there?

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Thanksgiving Eve twenty nineteen. My last thought that I remember was, man,

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it's way too muggy out here for me to be

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walking right now. I should turn around at the fountain

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right here at the beginning of my yeah, neighborhood. Well,

477
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.359
it turns out I didn't turn around. Uh, and thankfully

478
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:11.680
I don't remember, you know, actually getting hit. I think

479
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.079
my blessings for that one. But it was a full

480
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:22.039
sized white Chevy Silverado going approximately they said sixty five.

481
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:24.960
That sixty five sent me into orbit.

482
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.240
So you say, when you got hit walking by a

483
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:30.480
cargoing sixty five months star?

484
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.440
Yep, big old white Silverado, big old thing.

485
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:36.720
Was it dark right and boggy?

486
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:38.640
Like? How it was?

487
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.000
How was it that this person saw you?

488
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:47.240
Oh? I I have no idea. I only got mixed things,

489
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:52.160
you know, stories from from people that you know. Well,

490
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:55.640
the one person that actually stuck around when I got hit,

491
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.839
and she really, I can say, when she tried to like, yeah,

492
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.640
tell me the story, she was just more tearing up

493
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.799
and thankful that her and her husband stopped, you know,

494
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:13.079
because they were right there and they saw it and

495
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.680
they stopped, and she pulled my head out of the road.

496
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.000
Because anyone that's ever been here in Jacksonville knows that

497
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.000
anyone sees anything like that they're not stopping to help.

498
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.880
They're hauling the mails so they don't get stuck in

499
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.160
traffic behind everything when it stops. And she was lucky

500
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.400
enough to go and pull my you know head out

501
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.000
of the road, because she said she only looked up

502
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:38.960
and just saw oh no, as I was hurled down

503
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.519
the road. Ah, thankfully she didn't. But all the cameras

504
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.400
were like, no one could actually pick any of it up.

505
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.319
And I've never talked to the person that did it,

506
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.680
so and no one else stuck around even say anything.

507
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:59.279
So I'm kind of grateful that I don't have to know.

508
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:05.640
I've wondered many, many many times, how, yeah it happened.

509
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.599
I mean I crossed, I crossed that, I crossed that intersection.

510
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.359
I mean there were times I was crossing that intersection

511
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:17.039
like six times a day, you know, just yeah, walking

512
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:18.720
back and forth, because I used to just do that

513
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.519
all the time. Hit myself, you know, in a reasonable

514
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.480
size besides round, which by the way, is my current

515
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.079
you know size. But I don't know what happened, but

516
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.839
I know, huh oh, I know. Everything from that moment

517
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:40.079
on just kept getting more unfathomable and unbelievable and then

518
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:44.799
there are shades of ridiculous, and somehow I laughed through

519
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.279
it all, Like I really, I don't understand how I

520
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.400
found everything so funny, But I think that was just

521
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:51.799
the mere fact of when I finally, you know, like

522
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:56.480
snapped too. I was like, they told me what happened.

523
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:57.920
I was in the wrinkle on my toes. I'm like,

524
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.279
that shouldn't be like that, because they told me what happened.

525
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.200
Like something that big was going that fast hit me

526
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.200
directly and my left hip and I went flying like

527
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.240
I scorpioned when I hit the asphalt on my face wow,

528
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.720
and neck was fine, spine ended up being fine. Like

529
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.279
I broke my pelvis in three pieces. That didn't feel good,

530
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.599
by the way, But like I was sitting there like,

531
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:23.359
well my legs still moved, what I mean, they hurt,

532
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:29.000
but I and I was just grateful that. I mean,

533
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.279
it's very cliche to say I got a second chance,

534
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:37.240
but I stand firm and there's not a there's no

535
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:42.319
reason why you know, shouldn't be still in that wheelchair

536
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.160
that they gave me, or you know, even worse off

537
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:46.279
from what happened.

538
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.000
Well, based on what you're saying, I mean, you got

539
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.880
a hit at sixty five miles an hour, flew scorpion

540
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.599
on the floor or the pavement, and the only thing

541
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.519
that really happened was you broke your pelvis in a

542
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:01.799
few places. Your back was fine. Yeah, you're luck, You're

543
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:03.079
not freaking paralyzed.

544
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:04.519
Yeah.

545
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.759
How long was your recovery, you know, from shattering your pelvis? Basically,

546
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:10.440
like how long.

547
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.559
I mean, how long should it have taken compared to

548
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:19.079
how long the VA made it take? I mean within

549
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.880
I mean, this is with eight screws holding everything together.

550
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.119
By the way, I did not know that they made

551
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.400
screws long enough surgical to go from one side of

552
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.599
your hips straight through the other. It turns out they

553
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.519
really do, and it looks really cool next ray. But

554
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.359
I think I was like by like the end of

555
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.160
the first week when they're like, don't lift anything, don't

556
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.119
do this, don't do that, and God bless them. I

557
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.079
mean I shouldn't have been. But by the end of that,

558
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.839
like my friends were coming to check coming and they

559
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.640
had to get the garbage out of like the garage,

560
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:55.839
and my buddy Dave, Yeah, God bless them. Yeah, good

561
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.880
old master guns Patterson. Now, but he was like pulled

562
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:03.079
the pin left the gradualate like what pin And then

563
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.559
there I was hurling like fifty pound bags like cat

564
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.039
litter out of my way, like you shouldn't be doing that,

565
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.640
I know, but I was up there. I was taking

566
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.680
care of myself. I was cooking for myself, I was

567
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.759
doing laundry. I was doing all that with them like

568
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.519
a week and a half really, and then they got me.

569
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:26.720
You know, X ray's done within a month and there.

570
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.640
I mean that was through the VA, but the VA

571
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.079
couldn't get me into an actual doctor, you know, to

572
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.920
clear any to get me actually cleared out of the wheelchair.

573
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:42.559
So I mean that took I want to say, month

574
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.039
and a half two months from them to finally like

575
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.880
get me out of it, out of it the wheelchair.

576
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.359
But they'd like looked at the x rays and they're like,

577
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.359
I mean, everything looks healed. Within a month. Again, it

578
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.920
took them forever to get me anywhere. But again, the

579
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.839
beginning of twenty twenty, depending on where you were, things

580
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:07.400
started getting a little dumb. So so that did you heal? Certainly?

581
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.480
Did you heal correctly? Like do you have any issues?

582
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:15.440
Oh? Yeah, I mean thanks to you know everything that

583
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.079
because I mean again pelvis was broken three places. I

584
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.880
broke my middle finger on my right hand except in

585
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.680
the middle of my hand like in my palm there

586
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.359
that they'd never like reset, which I still find weird

587
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:31.799
because like you have to, because I had to press

588
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.599
myself up to get in and out the wheelchair and

589
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.240
really do anything with a broken hand, that was weird.

590
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.720
But that my nose is broken in two spaces. Thankfully

591
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.599
they didn't have to straighten it because it stayed aligned

592
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.240
when it broke twice, and I got a half tooth

593
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.720
and I got a half tooth. It still looks awesome

594
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:53.960
whenever I smile. But I mean I partially tore some

595
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.079
more ligaments in my knee and I finally finished off

596
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.720
my lcl So that's got all kinds of tears in

597
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.079
and now just from the they said when my leg

598
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.920
came down. But so I mean my left legs normally

599
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.359
on average from like knee down, like an extra like

600
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.079
three inches in my right leg all the time, you know,

601
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.000
without doing anything. So I mean that's a lasting effect,

602
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:21.519
which doesn't feel good like at all. But again because

603
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.039
of my need. They told me that I needed a

604
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.519
replacement when I was twenty two, and that was never

605
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.400
going to run again. So I mean, it's not like

606
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.240
this took that away from me. It's just a lot

607
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.079
of pain and swelling, and yeah, I know my limits.

608
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:40.400
I then pushed my limits, all right, who doesn't. Yeah,

609
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.039
that's the worst thing. It's just swelling. I mean I

610
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.759
had that was my second traumatic brain injury. So I

611
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.640
did get one, you know, overseas, but that was that

612
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.599
had nothing to do with getting blown up or anything.

613
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.759
That was just a crazy person. So that I had that,

614
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.039
and I didn't, you know, I have my migraines are

615
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:06.759
a little worse. Yeah, but and I had crazy like

616
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.119
directional vertigo like that would just come out of nowhere.

617
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.559
That was really that lasted for like NonStop, I'd say

618
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.160
for two years or so. After it like where I'd

619
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:19.839
be fine for a while, then I'd have like, you know,

620
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.599
two forty five pound dumbbells over my head and I'd

621
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.599
be laying back and then suddenly everything would start spinning

622
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.880
on me. That was kind of that was kind of

623
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.400
uncomfortable for a while, but otherwise everything's perfectly fine. I

624
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.960
don't know how again, by the grace of someone, yeah,

625
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:35.640
well someone out there.

626
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.720
Was sounds like out for me. Yeah, it sounds like

627
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.480
after everything that happened, I mean, you were seems like

628
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.359
you were obviously meant to still be here.

629
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.319
I said second chance when I could, like, I snapped too.

630
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.960
I wriggled my toes like but I'm good. Like there

631
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.720
felt like I was cracking jokes. The nurses and the

632
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.359
doctor were looking at my friend that came to see me.

633
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.759
They're like getting me. She's like, oh know what, that's normal.

634
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.799
That's him, Like, oh, I thought was a head injury.

635
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.000
He's like, no, man, he's good. You'll know if he's

636
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:08.239
not good. And I walked away way more unscathed than

637
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.400
I ever should have been. The no surgery was a

638
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:15.920
little weird. You know, that's had some lasting effects with

639
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.599
some like drainage and stuff. But I mean, if the

640
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.159
worst that came out of it was my leg swollen,

641
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.679
my hip hurts and my drainage is a little weird.

642
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.119
I mean, that's one of those blessings. That's the second chance.

643
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:33.199
And that's when I started really I pushed my foot

644
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.840
to the pedal on getting the podcast thing going and

645
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.880
doing all that woll Because I always talked about it,

646
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:38.480
I never did it.

647
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.239
So did that second chance that second chance motivate you

648
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.760
to get into podcasting? Is that what caused you?

649
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.760
It motivated me to finally it caused me to finally

650
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:53.199
actually do it because I was talking about it for yeah, forever.

651
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.840
Then it took me, you know, a while, after recovery

652
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.760
and all that, to finally, you know, just because COVID

653
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.159
pushed back them fixing my nose. So yeah, and that

654
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.800
was kind of awkward trying to you know, talk and

655
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.039
breathe in all that, because I mean it was kind

656
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.280
of janky, I guess, is the best way to put it.

657
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.679
But it finally, you know, it pushed me to do

658
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.559
to finally actually do it because I was like, I mean,

659
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.599
theoretically speaking with that accident, I shouldn't even be here

660
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:29.119
to have, yeah, the opportunity to do it, So I wasn't.

661
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.239
I wasn't letting the opportunity go to waste this time.

662
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:37.960
With So, with all that being said, you your longest

663
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.880
running podcast, your baby, as you said, is the Jesse

664
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:47.039
Razinski Show. Yes, sir, What what led to you wanting

665
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.440
to actually get into podcasting? First of all? And secondly,

666
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.519
and we kind of talked about this before we started

667
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.639
recording this why politics because it's it's kind of a

668
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.519
it's kind of a narrow space, you know, and it's

669
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.039
kind of taboo. People don't want to really talk about it,

670
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.039
but yet it's it's one of the bigger categories there

671
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.760
is out there. What led you to want to podcast

672
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:16.800
and specifically get into the political space in podcasting, Well, see,

673
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:18.239
because you.

674
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:22.159
Know, when I was growing up, like we all have,

675
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.039
like you know, our parents and we have another people

676
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:26.519
that we call mom and dad, you know, our friends

677
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.400
parents down the road. We had all that, and you know,

678
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.320
they were always like every night just local news followed

679
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.000
by you know, I remember what. I think they watched

680
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.719
the local news twice and then they'd turn on and

681
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.119
you know, I know it might be taboo to say

682
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.400
his name now, but you know, the O'Reilly factor was there.

683
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.920
You know, there was Bill saying his thing and he'd watch,

684
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.559
but he was watching like everybody across everything, just to

685
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.360
get you know, the perspective of all the different ones.

686
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.800
I could just see a bunch of their faces from

687
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.760
the other networks. I just can't tell you any of

688
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.440
their names. And I mean, who doesn't remember Bill O'Reilly.

689
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.039
I mean, honestly, I mean, I definitely remember Bill Oreley.

690
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.159
Yeah, he was a big name, but a sorry world,

691
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.719
but I can't remember anyone on the other networks. It

692
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.000
was a long time ago, but it was always just

693
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.159
you know, we always had conversations about that like type

694
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.920
of stuff even growing up, and about the local politics

695
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:25.679
and you know then obviously the military. I mean everything

696
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.679
from that all the way down to coaching little league here, yeah,

697
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.800
in North Carolina when I did that, like that even

698
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.679
had its own set of politics, Like politics really I

699
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:38.719
mean touches every aspect of your life. And I wanted to,

700
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.320
you know, and I didn't really think that the news

701
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:49.519
media was giving anyone like a fair swing it things,

702
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.719
no matter which way it was, you know, because everything's

703
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.480
so biased and skewed one way no matter what. Everyone

704
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.719
you know can admit to that, I think. And it

705
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.000
was just everything and I saw.

706
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:09.639
Like like all kinds of you know, between my liberal

707
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.119
friends who I still missed dearly that didn't.

708
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.199
Die, any one that just stopped talking to me, and

709
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.199
think we weren't even talking politics when they did that.

710
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.760
They just vanished one day. But you know, it was

711
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.119
just I didn't think there was enough you know, conversations

712
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.679
about you know what was actually in like the bills

713
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:30.920
and what was actually happening out there. And I've, you know,

714
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:34.559
even through everything, tried to stay you know, up to

715
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:36.960
date on a lot of it. And I still, like

716
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.039
you go through my phone right now, like my files

717
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.199
is just filled up with so many bills and all

718
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.039
kinds of stuff in there. Like I just always been

719
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.679
my thing, and I didn't think that there was really

720
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.639
a lot of fair sticks out there. Like that's the nicest,

721
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.440
most pleasant way to put that. And I wanted to

722
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.840
just you know, put what I knew out there to

723
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.519
people because I figured it was, you know, a better

724
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.760
way to grow out of, you know, all that, because

725
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.360
I really was just an awkward, shy kid. And I

726
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.719
keep telling everyone now, my body might not be able

727
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.519
to be in the Marine Corps, but if this mind

728
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.440
right here, like in my mentality now was there back then,

729
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.440
like I would have been like super marine, like I

730
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.039
would have been fain, Like I was just always shy

731
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.559
and awkward, And it helped me come out of that

732
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.719
bubble too by doing this.

733
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.920
It's it's always if I knew then what I knew now, right.

734
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.119
Noh, Like if I just had I tell everyone like well,

735
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:35.440
like any regrets that I wasn't like mentally here then, yeah,

736
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.679
it takes time to grow out of that stuff. And

737
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:40.320
you know, I just wanted to give and I didn't

738
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.639
think there was enough you know, you know, little guys

739
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.199
out there in the podcasting world, because again, like we

740
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.199
were talking before, like all they have to do is

741
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.360
stop being a senator, you know, stop playing a sport,

742
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.599
and they automatically, you know, just start one and bang

743
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.199
they have millions of views right.

744
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.159
There without any real credibility in the space, you know, Yeah,

745
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.159
they just have a famous name and then there you go. Yeah.

746
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.000
Yeah, And I just didn't think that, especially conservatives. I

747
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.280
didn't think we had a fair spot in the marketplace

748
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.360
per se. Yeah, because there's a lot more on the

749
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.039
other side than there is, you know, us, in my opinion,

750
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.960
especially Indy ones. And again, you know, really it just

751
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.639
helped me come out of my shell, help me express

752
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.320
everything that I was reading. And I figured, even if

753
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.360
I can only you know, help inform or change you

754
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.039
one person's mind just by reading these things to them,

755
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.599
then I'm doing something better for yeah, the world. And

756
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.239
it was better than holding all these thoughts in my

757
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.960
head because who I have a lot of.

758
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:47.039
Thoughts, right, a lot. It's ah you do, it's never ending.

759
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.199
I can I can say that I'm a person whose

760
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.239
mind is constantly spinning and and it's it's good to

761
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.880
get those thoughts out. I think I can relate with

762
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.840
you there for sure. Uh. And I also find in

763
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.320
this space that the problem with politics is it's it's

764
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.079
always treated as taboo. But as you said, and I

765
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.400
completely agree, if if you ignore it, it's going to

766
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.719
eat you because politics literally literally if you let it

767
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.079
decides your fate. If you don't pay attention to what's happening,

768
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.039
you're going to suffer the consequence. You really are, And

769
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.960
I think that you're right. There isn't enough independent voices

770
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:32.920
in this space to get out, you know, opposing opinions

771
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.880
and present facts and whatnot. And it seems like it's

772
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.119
a very one sided category in the podcasting space or

773
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.039
in the media in general. As you said, there's it's

774
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:47.599
mostly democrat, democratically led or liberal minded podcasts or news

775
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.760
outlets and whatnot. But the problem with that is, and

776
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.239
I've said this many times, and I want to I

777
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.519
want to know if you think the same thing that

778
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:00.039
most people in their day to day lives are so

779
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.480
busy paying the bills, you know, figuring out what they're

780
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.679
gonna feed their kids for dinner, whatever they got on

781
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.320
their plate, that the only thing they know is the headline,

782
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.880
and they don't take the time to go past the

783
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.440
headline to know what's really going on. Point in cases,

784
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.280
fast forward, and here we are. Maybe this is a

785
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:19.880
good segue. I wasn't gonna do this yet, but here

786
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.960
we are, with all of a sudden, everybody realizes Joe

787
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.599
Biden has an issue, when realistically his entire presidency, he's had.

788
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:32.000
This issue is just nobody was paying attention because the

789
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.079
average person doesn't read past the headline. They just take

790
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.679
everything for face value. And what I noticed from listening

791
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.159
to your show, as you kind of go past that,

792
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.920
you're like, no, there's more to that story. Here's some facts,

793
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.760
here's what's happening. And guess what, I got this from

794
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.840
a government website and I do the same thing. It's

795
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.320
funny how much you could find on actual government websites

796
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.119
because they have to report that information. They just don't

797
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.599
tell you they do, but they have to. They have

798
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.760
to expose it to the public. It's funny how many

799
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.119
people don't realize that. And then when you when you

800
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.840
hit them with these facts, they're in disbelief. They're like,

801
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.280
there's no way you're talking nonsense. It's ridiculous.

802
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.599
I get yelled at a lot, and I'm like, bro,

803
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.519
it's from like the CBP's website. But go on Google

804
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:25.320
right cb type in CBP and then whatever you're looking for,

805
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.800
Google will do you the favor of pulling the exact page,

806
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.519
so you just have to click and it's in front

807
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:31.320
of your face.

808
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.280
I mean, that is the magic of living in today's world.

809
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.079
It takes nine seconds. Whoever would have thought back? Because

810
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.000
I pick on my girlfriend all the time because she's

811
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.199
younger than me, you know, she's from the phone generation. Like,

812
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.519
whoever would have thought that? You know? I had to

813
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.719
go to the you know, drive fifteen minutes to get

814
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.960
to the library, to go lit the thing, to find

815
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:51.960
the card, to see what shelf the book is on,

816
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.760
just so I can go find anything out. All you

817
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.199
people have to do is just pull up that thing

818
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.840
that's in your hand twenty four to seven. I mean,

819
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:01.679
but are less informed now.

820
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.039
Isn't that crazy? And I remember that, like, if you

821
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.440
went the library, you wanted to find the information, you

822
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.880
had to go out of your way to find the information, Okay,

823
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.000
and that was an affirmation of your thirst for knowledge

824
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.960
and truth and whatever discipline you were looking to be

825
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.280
educated in, for example. And now you're absolutely correct, everything's

826
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.719
at your fingertips. And it feels like in today's time

827
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.199
and it just maybe because I'm getting older, but it

828
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.960
feels like we're getting dumber. Yes, let's not say it dumb.

829
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.679
Let's say more ignorant. Because the information is there, they're

830
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:41.320
just choosing not to be educated in it, you know,

831
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.800
that are choosing not to take that information educate themselves.

832
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.559
And like I said, it was all bout design. That's

833
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.519
all I'm gonna say about that.

834
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:50.599
And I'm sure you and I will get into that easy.

835
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.519
Yeah, it's just so easy. But they've just they've just

836
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.800
polarized and they've done a damn good job. Again pardon

837
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:03.159
that French, but they've done well. They've done a good

838
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:07.519
job at polarizing everything. Yeah, most people don't even care

839
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:07.960
to look.

840
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.880
And everything is so team base. You know, you're waving

841
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.079
your palm poms for your team. You're believing the headline

842
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:18.199
and the talking points and they're they're literally not not

843
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.199
hiding the data, but they're definitely not telling you where

844
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:25.360
to look. And they take they take everything for truth

845
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:30.000
and it's it's crazy. So that being said, let's move

846
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.639
forward a little bit and I want to get your

847
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.440
thoughts on what you think of this current twenty twenty

848
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:37.719
four presidential election.

849
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.360
We'll go and I'll start with the to the debate

850
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:48.239
topic there just really quick, Okay, man, I beat medicaid.

851
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.840
You did beat it? Oh that was but uh yeah,

852
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.679
like that's this just the Joe Biden and he has

853
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.719
a problem thing that you brought up earlier. I think

854
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.599
it's amazing that really leading up to it, all of

855
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.199
the talking heads we're talking about, he's been preparing for

856
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.079
a week and he's so sharp and he has nothing

857
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:07.800
wrong with him and all that, and then you know,

858
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:09.719
as they're all spending time with them, they all see

859
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.199
this and that comes from talking heads on you know,

860
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.599
all the networks to everyone in his administration, all of them,

861
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.079
and then that happens and suddenly they're all going, I

862
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.000
didn't know there was anything wrong with them, but he

863
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:24.920
didn't just suddenly turn into that in a three like no,

864
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.880
And people are just taking it from face value, which

865
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.679
just irritates me to death, like that doesn't happen that

866
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.400
Like we've all been telling like we've been saying this

867
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:36.920
for years. But that's all I'm gonna say about that

868
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:41.360
certain thing. It's been there. It's obvious. I wish people

869
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.719
didn't just yell at us for years and again whenever

870
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.440
I bring it up with people through the years. Again,

871
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.800
I had the TV and traumatic brain injury, wicked concussion,

872
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.480
spider rud, a slab of concrete at the back of

873
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.320
my head in Iraq, whole long thing we can we

874
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.239
can get into that later. That was fun. But then

875
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.920
I had the second one when I got run over

876
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.920
and like what I have, like you know vertigo and

877
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.280
you know, memory issues at times where my train of

878
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.000
thought's gone. What I'm saying this from someone that has

879
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.960
had enough severe concussions, you know, just at my age,

880
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.639
Like I know what cognitive impairment looks like. And that's it.

881
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.159
That's nothing me coming from it as like a mean

882
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:26.440
human being like I do have you know, some twitchy things,

883
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.920
memory issues. What I got on you again, vertigo that

884
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.599
kicks it out of nowhere, Like I I know what

885
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.599
it looks like and I would just get like roasted

886
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.480
that I'm just being this. I'm sure you've had it

887
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.000
where you just get yelled at because you're this, that

888
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.800
and the other thing. It's like, No, I actually have

889
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.880
some what I know what to look for. I know

890
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.199
the signs and that's what's been presenting this whole time.

891
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.360
And also, dear people of Scranton, stop let me accuse

892
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:49.800
you as a.

893
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.519
Prop Yeah, I agree that that's that's he.

894
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.760
Hasn't lived there in eighty years. It's it's and I

895
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.559
can say from experience, the city is a pit of

896
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.239
what it used to be. The end. Moving on to

897
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:06.559
the rest of the debate, I'm just gonna say that

898
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.239
from you know, the Orange Godzilla Hitler, I still love

899
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.280
that Greg Gottfield coin that one day. Man, I don't

900
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.960
watch them, but I saw that clip. I was like, yeah,

901
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:16.840
that actually is kind of how they built him up.

902
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.840
But yeah, he would thought.

903
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.920
He they built the way yeah yep.

904
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:23.840
Like and then Greg's like, what they made him the

905
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.039
orange Godzilla Hitler. I'm like, that's actually pretty good. You

906
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.480
should put that on coffee mug, you know what, And

907
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:33.639
then they would buy it instant classic. But you know,

908
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:39.039
I thought he did what he needed to do in

909
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.760
their first debate back in twenty twenty. I don't know

910
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.079
if any of you remembered. I do, as I was

911
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.400
in there just yelling shut up the whole entire time

912
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.599
because he didn't let Joe talk. He was just you know,

913
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.400
where's hunter? And he was just on the attack the

914
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.519
whole time. Agreed, Yeah, And I thought I was like,

915
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.840
what but that? But right there with you, just all

916
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.840
those independents that were on the fence, they were like,

917
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.119
it's his attitude. What you just proved everything that they've

918
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.480
ever said about you, and now you lost them. They're

919
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:11.000
not going to vote for you this time around. I

920
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.679
think he did, you know, apparently someone told him when

921
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.920
I was yelling years ago, he acted like an adult

922
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.400
and he just you know, did his thing. He shut

923
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:23.480
his mouth, and I think that really that was a

924
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.480
big win. Never mind everything, you know, all everything that

925
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.840
came out of it. My big takeaways. He acted like

926
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.119
an adult the whole time, and I think that helped

927
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.440
him with the independent people that were somehow still on

928
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.519
the fence about everything, because you know, I mean, it's

929
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.239
just been year after year they're just butchering the man. Yeah,

930
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:40.679
he hasn't gotten a break the whole time. But I

931
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.039
think he did a good job holding it together. I'll

932
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.119
say he was much better this time around, and I

933
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.320
think that mission accomplished.

934
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:50.360
I think that I think that it was a smart

935
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:57.159
move on his part. The thing about Biden is, yes,

936
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.280
he's always been that way, and the only people that

937
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.880
have been talking about it were those that weren't towing

938
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.760
the line for the Democratic Party because we were paying attention.

939
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.000
The issue that the media has and trying to hide

940
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.920
their support and apologize for their position is because there's

941
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.039
only a few times that people in America pay attention

942
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.159
to politics, and one of them is the presidential election.

943
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.119
And now all of a sudden, everyone stops to watch

944
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.440
when they usually don't, and now everybody's like, what and

945
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.840
the hell is going on? Is this real?

946
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:28.280
Yep?

947
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.440
Yeah, it's been real for over four something years before

948
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.000
he was eve elected. Well, yeah, he's been a politician

949
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.639
for his whole life. For one, he still shouldn't even

950
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.000
be serving the American people in my opinion at this point.

951
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.480
But again, as you would say, conversation to have it

952
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.519
another time, I'm sure, but Trump did the right thing

953
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.159
because by doing what he did. And I don't know

954
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.800
if this was under advisement. He literally just let Biden

955
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:56.960
expose himself.

956
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.719
That's all he had to do the first time. And

957
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.800
this because independent they're not going to watch another one. No,

958
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.199
they watched the first one. They went whoa, And you know,

959
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:06.760
I mean, I think it's going to be mussy TV

960
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.360
if they actually do another one. I mean, I know

961
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.320
they agreed to more. God knows if we're going to

962
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.480
see any but I think he I don't know who

963
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.400
told him to shut up. But God bless that man

964
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.639
for actually finally, because he tried it last time in

965
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.440
the second debate, but it was too late. All those

966
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:26.880
independents were like, nope, he's a monster. This time he

967
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.280
went in and acted like an adult and he said,

968
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.199
let's not act like children. You're a child.

969
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.480
And that was amazing that he actually said that to

970
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:35.559
Joe Biden.

971
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.440
Like, let's not act like children, you're a child. Yep,

972
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.400
but debate over right, But he just he dotted his eyes,

973
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.320
he crossed his t's, he did everything he had to

974
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:45.960
do so.

975
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:49.320
He would think that's he was definitely poised, confident and intelligent,

976
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.000
and he came off that way absolutely over Joe Biden.

977
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.000
Do you here's well, let me let me switch things up.

978
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:01.880
I was gonna ask you some one question, but way

979
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.920
to go to what you've mentioned before and uh in

980
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.199
texting back and forth and this ties into this question,

981
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.159
or at least what I'm going to talk about. The

982
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:14.159
you know what killed me about the debate was the

983
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:18.599
media right away tried to say trumpled thirty two thirty

984
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.159
four times, four hundred times. But the interesting thing that

985
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.199
everybody missed while everybody was trying to push that rhetoric

986
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.519
is CNN literally fact checked Joe Biden right after the

987
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.599
debate and exposed how much he actually lied. And one

988
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.320
of those you had your you're sensitive too was his

989
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:40.719
whole not one service person died under my you know,

990
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.880
under my presidency, and of course Afghanistan the disaster, which.

991
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.639
That's when I had to leave the house.

992
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:52.880
Oh, I mean, please elaborate on how you feel about that. Yeah, Oh,

993
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:53.360
I was.

994
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.480
I was, I don't know, like Hannah was in. Hannah

995
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:58.239
was there because she actually wanted to watch the debate

996
00:52:58.280 --> 00:52:59.960
this time, and I was just sitting there kind of

997
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.159
just yeah and just holding onto my hair. And then

998
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.679
he said that and I started. I was like, I mean,

999
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.360
there you go, right what if that doesn't prove anything's

1000
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.280
wrong with them? Right there? I mean thirteen of them

1001
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.119
right after you took office in a coordinated attack that

1002
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:20.000
they knew when it was going to happen, where it

1003
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:24.079
was going to happen, and it still happened, and then

1004
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.199
thirteen people didn't get to go home to their families

1005
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:34.880
over just sheer and utter incompetence. And the only person

1006
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.280
that actually called for any accountability because there hasn't been

1007
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.679
any I'm pretty sure, was Lieutenant Colonel Schiller. That was

1008
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.800
his name, right, And we also how that worked out

1009
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.880
for him. But he's doing well now, apparently he's making

1010
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.400
lots of money talking. But I thought that him saying

1011
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.679
that was the biggest slap in the face disrespect like ever,

1012
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.480
because all of us that served, like I tried to

1013
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.519
go to Afghanistan. They're like, no, Brah, you've been here

1014
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.360
for ten months. You're going home. We're gonna to take

1015
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.559
the new guys that got here halfway through the deployment.

1016
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.039
I'm like, we'll screw the new guys. I want to go.

1017
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.599
I did not win that argument, as you know, as

1018
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:12.159
a lance corporal didn't win that one. I tried, But

1019
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.760
I know a lot of people that went. My friend

1020
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.679
Alex that I mentioned earlier that got me to join,

1021
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.320
he was there and lost you know, one of his

1022
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.239
best friends. He was the best man at his wedding. Look,

1023
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:21.960
we all know someone that went there and did not

1024
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.880
come back home. And the way that they left with

1025
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.519
the tail between their legs and just gave everything right

1026
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.559
back over. I mean we saw it happening on TV

1027
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.760
for what weeks before, you know, everyone seemed to wake

1028
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.239
up to it. But I know a lot of people

1029
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.760
that were filling, you know, the same way when you

1030
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.000
know everything happened Iraq in the state that it's in now. Yeah,

1031
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.960
all of us that lost people, you know, I felt

1032
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.599
that we were released. You know, we had some feeling

1033
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:51.039
of something like it was like we were all texting

1034
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.880
each other when Afghanistan was falling apart, just in disbelief,

1035
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.440
and there's a lot of anger. There's a lot of tears,

1036
00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.000
there was a lot of all of that. Just to

1037
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:03.519
see all of it quite literally be for absolutely nothing,

1038
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.440
and to see him say that, oh, I had to

1039
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.760
leave the house. So I called my master guns Patterson.

1040
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:13.559
I called his wife because he was an ANSWER's phone,

1041
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.639
and I knew they'd have it on because they lived

1042
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.800
down in San Diego right now. And I listened to

1043
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:23.079
it through speakerphone while I was outside because I was

1044
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.239
pretty it salty.

1045
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:31.159
It was a complete disaster. How that was hanged beyond

1046
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:35.360
beyond a disaster, and it was it was basically just

1047
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.320
slapping America in the face. I mean, everyone who served

1048
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.400
and died, and the money we spent, everything that we

1049
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:46.400
did to try to stabilize that area, and in the end,

1050
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:54.119
he just dismisses it all with one action, and an

1051
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.719
extremely offensive action at that.

1052
00:55:57.719 --> 00:55:59.559
That's a very nice way of putting it. I don't

1053
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.880
have that. I don't have that nice little vernacular when

1054
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:04.639
it goes to that situation.

1055
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.880
But I usually have more choice words. I'm kind of

1056
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:09.800
holding back a bit on this one.

1057
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.559
But I mean, you heard, you heard, I've gone. I've

1058
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:18.000
heard a few that happened. Go back and find that one.

1059
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.320
I couldn't even tell what that was the first time back,

1060
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.639
and I still posted them on like YouTube, you know,

1061
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.599
and when I was doing, you know, everything back then

1062
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.599
was still all through anchor where I didn't even think

1063
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.719
to look and says they're explicit content. I didn't even

1064
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.840
think to hit yes, and within like thirty seconds of

1065
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.920
agoing up, they're like yeah about that, and they put

1066
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.679
that band around there themselves. I'm like, yeah, I lost tracks.

1067
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:48.280
I was oh my, but that was again that happened.

1068
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.159
All the money, the Taliband's much better armed now at

1069
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:52.960
least they were. They're selling so much of it off,

1070
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.000
but like we actually left it in worse shape than.

1071
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.519
We Absolutely there absolutely.

1072
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.199
Caliban two point zero, their their business people. Yeah, that's

1073
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:05.239
why they're selling it all off to Hamas and yeah

1074
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.320
it's those weapons have ended up proven in Hamas's hands

1075
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:09.960
and other terrorist organizations.

1076
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:10.239
You know what.

1077
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.000
They just sold it all to them. So now it's

1078
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.320
all of our stuff. And I don't know if you live.

1079
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:18.039
I almost like I tried one time, like but I

1080
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:19.840
didn't want to get thrown off of you know, TikTok.

1081
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.400
I know, hey on me all you want people, It

1082
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.800
gets me, you know, to interact with actually at least

1083
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:28.559
a few people too, you know, which helps past the time.

1084
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:33.400
But Harry Citizen I'm familiar, Like yeah, he was arguing

1085
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.400
that well, it was all out of date equipment anyway,

1086
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.320
and there I am just going please, like, and I

1087
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.119
didn't have enough followers as I was just yelling at

1088
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.119
my phone like it's all out of date equipment. I'm like,

1089
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.360
you do realize that our out of date equipment is

1090
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:48.199
still like, yeah, decades ahead? What a lot of those people.

1091
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.519
Have technologically way more advance than they'll ever be at

1092
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.360
for years to come. I mean, like, is it all

1093
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:53.880
out of date?

1094
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:54.039
Like?

1095
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.280
God, it's like feel statement, right, I feel?

1096
00:57:57.719 --> 00:57:59.679
And that's the worst. Like when all of this comes

1097
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.320
cross blowing down, which hopefully now in a few months,

1098
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:04.760
Like I just want to know what Harry is going

1099
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:06.280
to do the rest of his life, because he has

1100
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:10.360
shot every ounce of credibility that he's ever had right out.

1101
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:12.920
Of his nose, and he's like what twenty Well, I

1102
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:18.320
think most most social media personalities and talking heads, and

1103
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:21.000
I call them political entertainers to be quite honest, most

1104
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.880
these people that that's a nice way they they they

1105
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:30.519
have decisions to make because once Trump's in office, what

1106
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.159
are they going to do because their whole career is

1107
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:38.519
just built on bashing Trump? And after Joe Biden's debacle,

1108
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.480
after the secrets that we're trying to be hidden from America,

1109
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.639
have come out about his conditions and after Trump takes

1110
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.079
office again, you know, barring some other strange shenan again

1111
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:52.599
at two or three in the morning with ballots and whatnot.

1112
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.119
That hey, let's not talk We're not allowed to talk about.

1113
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.679
That, fair enough. I was just throwing it out there

1114
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:00.800
because it's story. It's a story I got.

1115
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.239
I got. I got my former brother in law, I

1116
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.679
was friends with him for forever. I was like, He's

1117
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.840
like what I was like. But to see all those

1118
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.119
sixty thousand ballots that you have votes that came in

1119
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.599
for him, He's like, what Joe Budden was Whitney on

1120
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:15.760
mail ballots. He's like, Joe Budden was winning two thirds

1121
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.079
of Like, yes, two thirds, bro, what sixty thousand to

1122
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.440
like it? It's like just basic Mathlet I know, you

1123
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.960
barely graduated high school. The wait you dropped out? What

1124
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:30.519
what is two thirds? Like forty thousand? What you're gonna

1125
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:31.440
get at least one?

1126
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.840
Well, that's all I'm saying.

1127
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.360
What those numbers did not anyway, none of them made

1128
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.079
and none of them really did add up when you

1129
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:41.440
can take in the population or the populace of those

1130
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:42.719
specific areas and districts.

1131
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:46.599
But one once Trump gets back into office, for example,

1132
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.360
what are they gonna do. I mean, they can continue

1133
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.840
to try to, you know, beat on him, pull him

1134
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:53.920
down and make them look bad. But it's his last term.

1135
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:58.480
Who cares? Yeah? And then what that's the thing that

1136
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.480
I mean, are we going to still have Rachel mad

1137
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.280
I was getting paid one hundred thousand dollars a day

1138
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.360
or whatever the hell she gets paid. Once there's no

1139
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:06.679
more Trump to talk about? I mean, what's next? What's

1140
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.880
next for these people? Do they actually care about America?

1141
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.039
I want to talk about relevant topics actually affect Americans.

1142
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:17.800
No, I mean, come on, I don't know what they're

1143
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.719
gonna do, but I mean four more years and then,

1144
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.039
I mean, they're just going to run for four more years,

1145
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:24.920
and they're just going to keep running forever, even though

1146
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.599
they realize he just keeps going and it doesn't It

1147
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.679
probably just drives them even more to well.

1148
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:31.880
I think that's the beauty of Trump.

1149
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.079
He said, I wouldn't be here right now. If you

1150
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.480
guys just left be alone, what my life would be

1151
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.920
a lot easier. But none of you could. You're right,

1152
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.320
he did say that none to hell, and here I am.

1153
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.320
He did say that that's funny.

1154
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.239
I'd much rather be golfing right now.

1155
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.599
And that's the beauty of Trump. He knows he could

1156
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.679
stick it to him just by existing, just by being him.

1157
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:57.480
Breathing is like, well, yeah, who somber.

1158
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.400
Let's go on to another sensitive topic. I have a

1159
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.840
lot of opinions on this, and I'm sure you do,

1160
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.280
especially being a service member or ex marine and whatnot

1161
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.800
border security. What's your thoughts on that?

1162
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.800
It's abysmal? Fun fact, by the time this finally comes

1163
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.440
out episode three, my show will probably be out. And

1164
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:22.079
don't you guys worry. I've got pages and pages and

1165
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.400
pages and pages and pages of numbers for everybody. I'm

1166
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:31.360
gonna say, it's been garbage. It has been garbage. It's

1167
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:33.880
going to continue to be garbage. I still like to

1168
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:37.880
know how. I think it was NBC ABC, one of them,

1169
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.119
like a week ago posted that Joe Biden, you know what,

1170
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.360
he dropped the numbers all the way down to eighty eight.

1171
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.079
That wasn't in June. I'm like, that's cool because I

1172
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.800
was on the Border Patrol's website and they don't have

1173
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.079
June's numbers posted yet. So I'm still try to figure

1174
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:52.440
out where the hell are from.

1175
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.599
I don't get them trying to stop spin that.

1176
01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:02.039
But let's just go with the only part that saw

1177
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.039
these numbers was like in the last let's say this

1178
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:11.159
century was George Bush. He had crazy high numbers in

1179
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:16.320
eight years. Those were bad. But those rate years, yeah,

1180
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.519
those rate years, I mean obviously, I mean he kept

1181
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.599
getting me lower there. Obama in eight years, his numbers

1182
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.119
actually weren't catastrophic. You know, if you look at them,

1183
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:27.519
they weren't good, but they weren't catastrophic. Trump had his

1184
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:32.000
four years, and you know, total, it wasn't that bad

1185
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.639
if you look at the numbers, like and I don't

1186
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.559
understand how people can't just just Google search it like

1187
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.159
it literally will pull up. Like I had a whole

1188
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:42.800
entire thing on the website that had twenty years of

1189
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.960
data just sitting there in front of my face. You know,

1190
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:47.360
it took me five seconds.

1191
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:47.639
Da duh.

1192
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.039
But uh he led in more people so far right now.

1193
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:56.000
And that's without June's numbers. Then we had like confirmed

1194
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.920
in the last twelve years combined.

1195
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:00.199
Yeah.

1196
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:00.159
Uh.

1197
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:03.119
I in three and a half years, I did, I did.

1198
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:06.119
I did a special episode of All Back where I

1199
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.880
went over this data and I also focused in on

1200
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.519
il han Omar, one of my favorites, and I went

1201
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.199
through her past and then also talk about the border issues.

1202
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.639
And in that specific episode, I have a ton of

1203
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:19.840
facts and links that you could go and click on

1204
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.519
in the show notes, and I got a lot of

1205
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:22.920
it from the Border Patrol website.

1206
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.480
I'm just gonna say, she sucks. Oh I border sucks.

1207
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.239
Let's we can get into ill hand another time, believing.

1208
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.719
Yeah, the border bill sucked. The border bill, the one

1209
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:37.719
listening there's there's air quotes around it, thousands of indadmissible.

1210
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.360
The funny the funny thing about the border. The funny

1211
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:45.400
thing about the border is three and a half years. Yeah.

1212
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:49.280
The funny thing about the border is that under Biden's

1213
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:55.360
presidency there I counted it their encounters with people and

1214
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.400
actual encounters where they actually catch people, not people that

1215
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.559
they don't catch, they get through. They already have encountered

1216
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:07.760
and caught and stopped seventeen hundred somewhadd terrorists known terrorists

1217
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:12.840
under Biden's watch alone. That number was nowhere near that

1218
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:17.320
under Trump's. And I think it's crazy that they want

1219
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.760
to say, oh, you know, put on one of his

1220
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:24.239
campaign talking points. Now, is I closed the border? No,

1221
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:28.159
you didn't. Nobody opposed you closing the border. I'm talking

1222
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.599
about Joe Biden. They just didn't like to kept stuffing

1223
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.039
all this money in to go to Ukraine while trying

1224
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:37.400
to one of those things. Yeah, but yeah, and Trump

1225
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.679
had no support. Yet somehow his numbers were about a

1226
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.760
quarter what Biden's disastrous numbers on the border are.

1227
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.760
I think, like official apprehensions, you can quote me, you know,

1228
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.760
correct me where I'm wrong, But I think Trump's last

1229
01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:00.639
three years combined barely beat Joe's first U alone.

1230
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.079
Yeah. I think if Joe's first year were then wasn't

1231
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:07.199
his first year about one point two or one point

1232
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:07.960
four million?

1233
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.480
Yeah? I have it underneath this drill sitting on here,

1234
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.079
and the cable from my microphone is sitting on top

1235
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.119
of that drill, and I'm not a chance and moving that.

1236
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:18.320
But it was.

1237
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:22.559
Somewhere up there. It was Comparatively, it was.

1238
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.639
It was one of those like numbers you just leave

1239
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:25.400
like what.

1240
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:30.639
So another thing that was proven to be a lie

1241
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:35.000
on Joe Biden's side, aside from the economy itself as well.

1242
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.920
But yet somehow, you know, the people with the POM

1243
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.480
Poms on the Democratic side still want to cheer and

1244
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:44.840
jump up and down and say, no, that's a lie.

1245
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.519
Worst ever under Trump, Biden's fixing the economy, the border's

1246
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:53.199
the best ever. I really don't understand how in America,

1247
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:56.960
you know, the only way to debate improve an argument

1248
01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:58.599
is by doing so with facts and data. And when

1249
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:02.119
you prevent that, how does the other person still not

1250
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:02.679
believe you?

1251
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.800
Yeah, I'm right there.

1252
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:06.719
I don't get it.

1253
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.760
On a spiritual level, I feel, you know, but uh,

1254
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.400
I did like that when you said, uh yeah, the

1255
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.039
economy thing where I don't remember which network it was,

1256
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:17.760
but the first thing they put up there with you know,

1257
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:22.039
Trum's lies what he had the best economy ever? People

1258
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:25.400
what Joe Biden said it too right. It will be

1259
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:30.039
really comparing and contrasting economies right now. I mean, that's

1260
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.440
probably not the best mark. And I also again former

1261
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.480
brother in law, he stopped talking to me whatever, but

1262
01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:39.679
he told me I was crazy because in December of

1263
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:44.480
twenty twenty, I refinanced this thing. It's beautiful home of mind.

1264
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.440
I'm like, but I'm never going to see a rate

1265
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.719
like this any type soon got in a quarter. Guess

1266
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:51.840
what jokes on him.

1267
01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:54.400
Yeah, I mean literally and a quarter.

1268
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.280
But I know what's about to happen with Mike because

1269
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.400
I've been here. But I was paying attention while you were,

1270
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.119
you know, going out bar hopping every night. I was

1271
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:04.400
actually paying attention to the world. And right now what

1272
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:05.719
they actually still think that?

1273
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:08.039
I mean, hey, were we to do this. We did

1274
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.360
the same thing, you know, we saw where things were

1275
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.440
at and did a REFI it got a low rate.

1276
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.559
Now things are going back up to seven and under

1277
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:19.199
Biden's presidency. I mean, it seems like the American dream

1278
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:20.719
is not attainable anymore.

1279
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.199
Yeah, just really isn't Probably the thing that pisses me

1280
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.320
off the worst about it all. I mean, it's actually

1281
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.000
infuriates me. That was just what does you say at

1282
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:30.639
the bottom up in the middle, out you know the middle?

1283
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.079
Is it out to the bottom and the bottom just

1284
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:33.519
doesn't even know what to do anymore?

1285
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:35.000
True? I agree with that.

1286
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:37.880
Yeah, Like because they say it's working for everyone. Well,

1287
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.039
the cost of everything's through the roof. That doesn't hurt

1288
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.039
rich people. Mortgage rates are through the roof. That insurance

1289
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.360
rates what I mean you name it, but interest rates

1290
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.280
for loans if you want to get anything. What everything's like.

1291
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:54.880
That doesn't hurt the wealthy, that only hurts the normal folks.

1292
01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:59.679
So I mean, yeah, this is all America has to

1293
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:04.760
know about Biden's economic plan versus Trump's economic plan. And

1294
01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:07.559
it was very evident when Biden made the statement that

1295
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:15.079
inflation does not affect the cost of goods. I have

1296
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:17.479
no idea where he got that information or how he

1297
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.720
even came to that conclusion. But good luck, I don't.

1298
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:21.199
Think he knows.

1299
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:26.239
I mean, you're literally devaluing the dollar. How does it

1300
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.159
not affect cost of goods? As a business owner, I

1301
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:32.279
can tell you it absolutely affects cost of goods, cost

1302
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:36.399
of operations, employment tax. I mean, you name it, you

1303
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:37.920
name it across the board.

1304
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:42.680
Cost of cost of everything. Oh my, but remember remember

1305
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.439
it's not happening. It's a right wing conspiracy theory. It's transitory.

1306
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.760
It's your fault for buying things. Oh and then it

1307
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.319
was Putin's fault, even though it was already up like

1308
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:56.279
over double triple what it was when they took office,

1309
01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:59.239
before Putin ever got anywhere near Ukraine. But that's again,

1310
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:02.439
that whole entire thing is along conversation.

1311
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.039
Complete agreement. How they could blame all this on Putent

1312
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.560
when our own government is willingly funneling billions of billions

1313
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.520
of dollars to support a country who, by the way,

1314
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.000
nobody would ever do business with before because Ukraine, guess what,

1315
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:20.159
historically is a very corrupt government. Zelenski himself has arrested

1316
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.159
his own political opponents and has disappeared people. Yes, but

1317
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.560
somehow those facts are never talked about.

1318
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.119
Yeah, and my mentioned Crystal earlier. Her mother actually met

1319
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.760
a Ukrainian woman online through some I don't even know.

1320
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:36.399
I'm not even going to try to figure out how

1321
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.119
to know. But they were talking for forever and she

1322
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:41.279
was actually right there and Kiev when all of that

1323
01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.840
was you know, and thankfully again she's in some other

1324
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.079
country now. But she was sitting there talking to like

1325
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.199
I was listening to conversations. She's like, well, do you

1326
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.560
guys don't even know the half of it? But oh,

1327
01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:55.840
I'm sure you don't even you don't even know with

1328
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.840
this dude, I'm like, well, thank you for calling him

1329
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.039
this dude. I'm sure you actually could have said something

1330
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:04.319
way worse than in Ukrainian and I never would have known.

1331
01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:07.119
Thank you, Thank you for putting it into something that

1332
01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:08.239
I'm not going to have to go and try to

1333
01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:12.439
google later. Appreciate you than for being but hey, I

1334
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.600
just well, it's not even really trying to remember. It's

1335
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.399
just trying to because I'm taking German lessons and all that,

1336
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.039
and it's just you know, it's not Ukrainian. But when

1337
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.039
they say something, I'm like, I got like just trying

1338
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:25.800
to fathom how to spell it. I'm like, thank you

1339
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.159
for saying this, dude, what because I'd be sitting there

1340
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.800
for twenty minutes just trying to spell that. Then that

1341
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:35.159
would get me nowhere. But yeah, She's like, you guys

1342
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:38.680
don't even know, you'll never know. Ah, and I where

1343
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.920
it's just a it's really just a money pit, except

1344
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:49.239
it's money pit, funneling, washing whatever you want to ye know.

1345
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.760
Oh it's a big money. It's a big money.

1346
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:56.199
And we're never just I mean, I don't know how

1347
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:57.840
you feel about it, but I don't find it to

1348
01:10:57.880 --> 01:10:59.960
be a winnable.

1349
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:06.079
Situation. You're talking about winnable between for.

1350
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:08.359
You know Ukraine.

1351
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:11.359
I just know it's not. It just doesn't. They just

1352
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:11.760
don't have.

1353
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:14.279
They don't have the resources, they don't have military resources,

1354
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.239
they don't have the amount of people like, it's just

1355
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:17.039
one of those.

1356
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:21.199
I mean, they're kidnapping middle aged men. Yeah, to go

1357
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.319
fight at this point.

1358
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:26.760
Yeah, like it's a it's a complete I got I

1359
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.680
got note stacked up somewhere in this giant cluster of

1360
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:34.800
just my stacked stuff, her stacked stuff. But yeah, it's

1361
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:38.800
a yeah, that's that isn't money laundering. I don't know

1362
01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:42.239
what is because that thing's just that thing sucked the

1363
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:46.520
whole time. But back to the moral Yeah, I don't

1364
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.920
remember where we were, but blaming Putin for it. There

1365
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:50.199
we go.

1366
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:55.600
That was, well, we're talking about we're talking about Biden's

1367
01:11:55.760 --> 01:12:01.479
disastrous statements that really was a disrespect to all American

1368
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.600
all service members. And we talked about the lower of

1369
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.279
security and I mean, basically we're just chatting about the

1370
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:10.479
twenty twenty four presidential election in general.

1371
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.640
And I think people need to be more informed. That's

1372
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:15.119
why I'm glad there's people like you and me and

1373
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.600
everyone else out there at least putting in the work.

1374
01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:22.439
I feel like, I don't know about well, you stated earlier,

1375
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.560
you know, you felt like you had to do this.

1376
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.159
I got into this kind of for the same reason.

1377
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.880
It's it's like I'm looking at the landscape and hearing

1378
01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:38.720
everybody just talking. I mean just they're just speaking nonsense,

1379
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:42.119
and I'm sitting here going, look, if this clown could

1380
01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.760
be out here with a platform spewing a bunch of bullshit,

1381
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:49.520
then why don't I give this a shot? Why don't

1382
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:53.000
why don't I go ahead and tell the world a

1383
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.760
little bit about things from my perspective, but also not

1384
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.279
just an opinion, also present facts as well. I mean,

1385
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:01.399
let's be honest. We all have our own opinions based

1386
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:04.560
on our life experiences and how we go through things

1387
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:06.439
and what's thrown at us. I mean, we're all going

1388
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.560
to have an opinion. But in the end, there's a

1389
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.600
fact out there, and once you find those and uncover those,

1390
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.000
I believe that is the duty of people like us

1391
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:18.840
to go ahead and present those to the world so

1392
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:22.960
people can see there's a truth and an alternate way

1393
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:24.520
of thinking or looking at it. And even if we

1394
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.279
don't convince somebody, at least we threw it out there

1395
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.000
and they had the opportunity to educate themselves. Just to

1396
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.399
be quite honest, Jesse, I'll tell you I listened sometimes

1397
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:35.199
to some liberal or democratic podcasts and news, and there's

1398
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.239
some times I'll go, oh, okay, I get it. I

1399
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:44.439
get their point. It makes sense, but not It's not

1400
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.159
always the majority of time that that is the case,

1401
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:49.439
but it does. There's some things where I'm like, yeah, okay,

1402
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:52.439
that makes sense. So the problem I have, and I

1403
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.640
don't know how you feel about this, especially being in

1404
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.960
the political space as a podcaster or you know, whatever

1405
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:01.319
you want to call us these days, is I tried

1406
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:04.640
so hard to stay neutral, to look at both sides

1407
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:07.399
and present things from both sides, whether they were fact

1408
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.520
fiction whether and call someone out on their ship as

1409
01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:13.600
I usually say. But to be quite honest, it got

1410
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:15.960
harder and harder for me to stay neutral at times.

1411
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.600
Oh yeah, how do you how do you feel about

1412
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:19.199
that statement?

1413
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.279
One thousand percent? But the thing that I've been you know,

1414
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:27.079
I've worded it as nicely as I can lately, because

1415
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.520
Hannah's always all one. Sometimes you start, I'm like, sometimes

1416
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:31.920
they leave me no other option.

1417
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:33.399
But is.

1418
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.960
These people out there and again this goes you know,

1419
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.159
because there's people on both sides that this, you know,

1420
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:48.520
goes along with. But people let their opinions make up

1421
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.680
what the facts actually are. And whether they're going to listen,

1422
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:56.680
Unlike letting the facts change their opinion. Their opinion is

1423
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:01.159
changes the facts, and I think that when that happens

1424
01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:04.680
as much as it does, because it's all over everywhere,

1425
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.319
I mean, I don't know. I I mean I do

1426
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:10.479
try to, you know, watch both sides of the argument,

1427
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.000
you know, and try to keep tabs just to see

1428
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:14.800
because I mean, again, like you said, every once in

1429
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:19.239
a while, I'm like that actually makes sense. Not very often,

1430
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:21.159
but every once in a while they hit, you know,

1431
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.680
something out of the ball or you're like they actually

1432
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:27.880
aren't lying there, and it completely blows my mind. But

1433
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:32.760
there are certain topics where I just I she's even

1434
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:34.640
come in here, like while I was in mid recorning

1435
01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.960
and open the door. She's like, dude, And if you

1436
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:39.720
go back, you can even probably find some of those

1437
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:43.000
episodes where she's you're the door creaking open, She's like, bro,

1438
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.039
Like what I tried, I tried.

1439
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.159
What but please please just tone it down.

1440
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.079
Like I heard too, what I try to be nice

1441
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:55.520
to like I try, But there's just sometimes where they're

1442
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.560
just spewing just so much garbage and so many people

1443
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.680
are eating into it, you know, just eating played after

1444
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.079
played after plate of it, even though it takes nine

1445
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:10.000
seconds to like, and they're like even people have known forever,

1446
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:12.640
literally coming at me, just screaming, saying that I'm out

1447
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.119
of my mind and on this, that and the other thing,

1448
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.279
even though I'm like, and I'll send them the link

1449
01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:18.600
and be like, no, really, dude, like that's straight from

1450
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:22.119
his own people, right, it's their website. That's not me

1451
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.399
what that's that And they're still defending it and saying that.

1452
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:27.760
I'm like, so they make it kind of hard at

1453
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:33.760
times to uh stay neutral, as I mean, I always

1454
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:38.000
try anymore, like I'm trying to be again, I'm all

1455
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.399
grown up now, Yeah, right, trying, But yeah, it's it's

1456
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:46.560
ever hard, I'd say, in today's climate, it's almost like

1457
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:47.680
to be able to do that.

1458
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:53.560
Yeah, it seems it seems a time that it's really fanatical,

1459
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.159
and it can be fanatical on both sides, and sometimes

1460
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:00.279
I feel like it's really arguing one religion and over

1461
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:04.600
another because it's mostly faith based decisions, you know, as

1462
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:06.439
you would say, their opinions, but it seems like they're

1463
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.520
operating on faith more than fact. And that happens on

1464
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:10.760
our side too. On the conservative side.

1465
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.000
I mean that happens on.

1466
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.399
I am not a far right fan, to be quite honest,

1467
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:16.800
it does get to a point where it goes a

1468
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.159
little too far. I mean, you know, let's make sense

1469
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:19.560
of things.

1470
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.680
There's there's crazy people on both sides, everybody absolutely and

1471
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.000
in between yes and truth side, you don't even know

1472
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:27.600
where sides.

1473
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:33.039
Yeah, that's absolutely absolutely true. I well, I hope I

1474
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:37.680
hope that. Uh. I hope that the message gets out

1475
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.680
there more, you know, not the indoctrinating message, but the

1476
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:46.680
message of you know, truth for example, presenting facts and

1477
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:50.119
maybe even opposing views that will help you see things differently.

1478
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:52.680
And that that's always been my hope.

1479
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.920
Yeah, And we used to actually, like that's the thing

1480
01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.600
that has irritated me most because I don't again I could,

1481
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.920
I was so young, so many head injuries ago, I couldn't.

1482
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:04.920
But we actually used to have that where we'd have

1483
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:09.479
like a person from each side, like on TV together,

1484
01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:12.479
on shows together, just like debating the things and going

1485
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:14.479
back and forth. And that was the whole entire premise

1486
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.279
of their thing. Now can't even be in like most

1487
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:18.640
of them can't even be in the same room as

1488
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:22.199
one another, and it's just so I want to say,

1489
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:26.319
tribal and fanatical, and it's just I don't know, I

1490
01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:28.119
don't have an actual word for that.

1491
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.600
Surprisingly well, and aside of aside from people just reading

1492
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:33.920
the headlines and not going into the details, I think

1493
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:36.439
the other problem that may have led to where we

1494
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:39.800
are now is you don't have a good representation of

1495
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:43.840
what an actual debate is. As you said, you know,

1496
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.439
for the last I don't know, let's say eight to

1497
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:50.520
ten years, maybe more debates on the news as they

1498
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.560
would like to call themselves, And that's me air quoting

1499
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:55.920
is just a bunch of people on the screen yelling

1500
01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:58.840
over each other and not really having a conversation, so

1501
01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.680
you can't even make sense of what the holl's going on. Also,

1502
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:04.159
the presidential debates have gotten that way. It's more about

1503
01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:06.680
slinging slanders and trying to make people look bad, like

1504
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:08.640
there are a bunch of schoolyard children right, just just

1505
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.399
trying to insult each other than focusing on the actual

1506
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:15.600
issues and debating on those actual issues. And they get

1507
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:19.560
elected based on their popularity or how bad someone scolds

1508
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:21.760
the other and makes them look ridiculous, when it really

1509
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:24.680
should be based on what are their policies, what do

1510
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.199
they believe in, and how does this affect America. I

1511
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:30.039
don't know why we got away from that or how

1512
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:31.479
that was acceptable to get away from that.

1513
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:36.640
I mean, that's why I don't watch like any of

1514
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:39.399
the primary debates, especially what they're in the Democrats. Last time,

1515
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.600
they had like seventeen people on the stage at one point,

1516
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.039
Like it was just mud slinging the whole time, and

1517
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:47.159
you know, that's what God is here. But I think again,

1518
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:49.840
like I said I said earlier, I think it's it's

1519
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:53.960
all been by design. They're just how they've set it up,

1520
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:57.399
so everyone's just so busy are doing with each other,

1521
01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.279
like literally every I mean it's just like again, go

1522
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.239
on anything, everyone's there just you know, arguing with each

1523
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:08.279
other and throwing mud and everything else that they do.

1524
01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:12.159
And it makes it it's by design because I mean,

1525
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:14.840
look at us all now, look at how many I mean,

1526
01:20:14.920 --> 01:20:17.720
everything's just that way, whether it's on you know, news

1527
01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:21.960
things and you turn on any social media influencer, I

1528
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:27.000
meny news headlines, I mean debates, everything's just mud slinging

1529
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:32.399
and so much vitriol across you know sides that now

1530
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:35.439
everyone's so busy doing that that no one gives a

1531
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:38.840
damn about what the stats are. No one cares about

1532
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:41.840
looking up anything. They're just so busy arguing with one

1533
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.960
another that you know, now, that's all anyone sees. And

1534
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.199
I think that makes it, you know, a lot easier

1535
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:49.279
for people to be like, that's what we're supposed to

1536
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.600
do and tribalism, And I think that's the best word

1537
01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:53.880
I can come up with for it. And I think

1538
01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:57.199
that's what's gotten us so ignorant, I believe is the

1539
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:00.199
word you used, because it's easy to do whatever you

1540
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:03.279
want when everyone's too busy arguing with one another all

1541
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:07.000
the time. And that's all it's been for I don't know.

1542
01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:10.359
I mean, it's been a long time. It's really really

1543
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:13.279
really really turned up to a million since a certain

1544
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:17.520
guy came down and escalator that there has been like

1545
01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:21.079
civil conversations anywhere since then. It's just name calling the

1546
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:24.319
whole entire time, no matter where you turn, yes, and

1547
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.720
it makes them, it makes it a lot easier than

1548
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:28.840
to be like what best border numbers ever? And we're

1549
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:32.399
just sitting there like in Worsting, they're going, ehh, yeah,

1550
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:35.279
except for most people are just going yep, sure, yeah,

1551
01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:37.159
they see the headline, they keep moving on and they're

1552
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:40.119
just too busy, just attacking all the time. It's like

1553
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.720
it's put the society just in high alert mode how

1554
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:45.319
all the time.

1555
01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.199
And I don't know, how do you feel about our

1556
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:49.920
future as a country right now?

1557
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.880
The direction we're going? I mean right now? I mean

1558
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.960
I still have all the faith. I mean, you still

1559
01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.840
have to have faith no matter how things are. But

1560
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.800
I think we're gonna need because anything could be turned around,

1561
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:10.239
except for my marriage that couldn't. But that's another story.

1562
01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:13.319
We tried, but anything could be turned around. I just

1563
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:17.279
think it's gonna take so much work to get us there.

1564
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:20.840
And I have faith. I mean I always try to.

1565
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.800
I mean I always want to see the good. Yeah,

1566
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:25.720
you always try to see the best in everybody in

1567
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:28.520
every situation, even people who don't like you, at least

1568
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:32.279
in my experience, because you know that leads to you know,

1569
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:35.079
bad things down the road, having all those feelings. You know,

1570
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:38.039
for me personally, I tried to see the best. I

1571
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.079
hope for the best. I think, you know, everything can

1572
01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:42.520
be turned around, but we just need to have like

1573
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.960
the biggest fire hose known to mankind like ever just

1574
01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:50.960
sprayed down on everyone to douse the flames because everything's

1575
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:56.640
just been so go, go go for so long, and

1576
01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:58.319
I just don't know how long it's gonna take, you know,

1577
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:01.159
if we get a chance to you know, get everything

1578
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:05.600
going in the right direction again, because I mean, I

1579
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:08.079
know people that are related to people that you know,

1580
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:10.079
stopped talking since everything just got so.

1581
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.399
Yeah, so polarized.

1582
01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.680
Right, yeah, like everything's just so like I know, like

1583
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:20.039
literal family members that don't talk just because they're on

1584
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.560
separate you know, like political sides. I'm like, you guys

1585
01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:28.640
could still talk, you know, like you like, that's that's

1586
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:32.359
how you actually perpetuate the problem and don't get anywhere.

1587
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:35.880
Is again, no one can have conversations. It's just screaming

1588
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:40.159
matches all the time. And until we start doing that,

1589
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:43.880
you know, and having conversations, yeah, nothing's going to get

1590
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.960
turned back around. But I always have faith that, I mean,

1591
01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.079
it's America, right, yes, I mean we've all been through

1592
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:53.079
some things. I mean through everything in my life, all

1593
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:55.479
you know, trials and tribulations. Just like everyone else, you

1594
01:23:55.479 --> 01:24:00.319
can turn things around as long as you have the

1595
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:05.239
right mindset. And again, I funny you know, finally, after

1596
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:08.039
everything that happened before I got ran over, I finally

1597
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:11.319
was like screw man when everything's good, and I finally

1598
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:13.920
started turning the sheet, when a lot of things finally

1599
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.079
started you know, dying down, turning around, and you know,

1600
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.279
I just and I stayed positive and it worked that.

1601
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:22.960
I mean, if you have a positive mindset, we can

1602
01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:26.960
get through anything. I believe, so honestly believe that. I

1603
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.279
believe it's all you got to have. And that starts,

1604
01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:31.800
you know, everything, the wheels turning in the proper direction.

1605
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:35.520
We have to get everybody there, and the flames desperately

1606
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.960
need doaust because I mean powder keg.

1607
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:43.319
Good energy is infectious, right, yes, absolutely, and it will

1608
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:48.119
and it will definitely put out negative energy for sure. Yes,

1609
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:48.920
I believe that.

1610
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:51.840
So I don't think it's I don't think it's yeah

1611
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.359
as hopeless as some people do. I think, you know, again,

1612
01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:57.760
I was positive. There's always you know, there's always hope.

1613
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:01.399
Nothing's you know, to quote John Rambo, thing is over nothing,

1614
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:06.079
good Old Rambo Hey, first blood, but that was a classic.

1615
01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:10.119
But absolutely nothing is over nothing. You don't just turn

1616
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.680
it off and it you know, and that good is

1617
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:17.000
still in everybody. I just don't think anyone's calmed down

1618
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:20.479
and took a breath long enough to realize just how

1619
01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:23.920
turned up everything has been.

1620
01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:28.800
I I'm gonna say, I'm kinda well. I am glad

1621
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.119
that we ran into each other, even if it was

1622
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:35.359
through you know, text messaging and zoom and whatnot. I

1623
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:36.600
have a feeling you and I are gonna have many

1624
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:38.000
more conversations, to be honest.

1625
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:40.159
H Hey, I'm down.

1626
01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:43.159
I want to uh, we'll probably wrap this up here soon,

1627
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:46.640
but I do want to ask you about your artwork

1628
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.319
that you brought up before. H What is that about?

1629
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:51.840
Can you explain what you're doing there?

1630
01:25:52.600 --> 01:26:02.359
Well? You see, ah, this came about last year or

1631
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:07.000
me and my girlfriend's anniversary, because I spent all my

1632
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.760
money on Yeah, because I didn't have a lot, to

1633
01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:12.640
be honest here, I mean, things were a lot you know,

1634
01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:15.279
more chaotic in life, yeah, at this point, you know,

1635
01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:16.920
at that point last year. But I did it just

1636
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:19.239
a paint or something because she like sentimental things and

1637
01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:22.680
she had like art supplies around and stuff, and so

1638
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.359
I painted, like you know, our first camping trip that

1639
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:27.000
we did together. Like I put that on there, and

1640
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:28.319
if you look at it now compared to some of

1641
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:33.199
the stuff I did, I just laugh, like, literally you

1642
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:34.720
can tell what it is, but who.

1643
01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:37.239
Of your skill?

1644
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:41.399
Right? Oh yeah, Like it was a rapid, rapid ascension

1645
01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.600
in my Yeah that's awesomely so that's what everyone tells me.

1646
01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:48.039
But yeah, like I want to say, I don't remember when,

1647
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:52.600
but it was well over a year ago. I lost

1648
01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:58.319
my mental health doctor at the VA uh again just

1649
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:02.520
because yeah, she moved on HHS offered more money. I

1650
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.079
don't blame her. I know what her caseload was with

1651
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.159
people you know here where I am, trust me, I know.

1652
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.840
I lost my primary care doctor, which I still haven't

1653
01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:16.760
had now again over a year and they still whole

1654
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.880
other thing. And yeah, there's a lot of things just

1655
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:21.880
you know, irking me again. Like I told you, last

1656
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:26.800
year was just you know, rough between health stuff, you know,

1657
01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:29.680
untimely deaths of people, you know all that. Like I

1658
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:34.239
just started painting and I found it to actually be

1659
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:40.600
quite therapeutic to just sit down and have a vision

1660
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:45.359
in my head and just go. And you know, I've

1661
01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:48.680
started off with that archaic thing like it's awesome, but

1662
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:54.399
I've gone everywhere from you know, painting Captain Spaulding from

1663
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:56.640
Rob Zombie's House of a Thousand Corpses, Like his face

1664
01:27:56.680 --> 01:28:01.159
turned out outstanding. Hid a whole lot of wrenches during

1665
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:03.319
Christmas times for people I gave him way as gifts

1666
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:06.960
like it was pretty outstanding, A real monsters. That was

1667
01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:08.439
one of my favorites that I did. I don't know

1668
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.399
how it turned out as well, especially as I painted

1669
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:13.399
the background colored like nine times because I never liked it.

1670
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:16.119
But that's at a new home and really I just started,

1671
01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:18.479
I was like, let this actually because you know, it

1672
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:20.319
just sits down and you know, do you just have

1673
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:23.720
to put your mind on that and it helps, you know,

1674
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:28.239
actually clear a lot of you know, bad space out

1675
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:31.000
of your head if you do, you know, have any

1676
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:35.600
kind of stuff, you know again life in general, head injuries, PTSD,

1677
01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:37.640
all those fun things. You know. It just it was

1678
01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:41.479
really good and therapeutic and it helped, yeah, deal with

1679
01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.199
a lot of things when the VA wasn't there, you know.

1680
01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:47.600
And again I don't blame my doctor. She had her caseload.

1681
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:49.079
I couldn't tell you the number, but it was just

1682
01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:52.439
through the roof NonStop all the time. I didn't have anything.

1683
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:54.039
I didn't have anyone to reach out with her that

1684
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.720
I felt actually aired again. That could just be my

1685
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.640
area here. I do have the great there all just

1686
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:02.399
in the you know, ever in the world now. So

1687
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.800
doctor Oaster, that's a shout out to you, because he

1688
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:09.279
handles everything for me now and he is a saint.

1689
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.560
And I told him you better never leave. He chuckled.

1690
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:14.520
I'm like, I'm not laughing, bro, You're not going anywhere.

1691
01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.760
But I use that as just, you know, a form

1692
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.039
of therapy. And I tried to turn it, you know, like,

1693
01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:21.920
you know, just if I can make a few extra

1694
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.079
dollars in the process, then you know, that helped too.

1695
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:27.159
But really it was just as a form of therapeutic thing,

1696
01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:29.079
and there were just so many of them stacking up

1697
01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:31.239
that I do it that way. And when I go

1698
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:33.279
down and see my other veteran friends when they're around,

1699
01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:35.399
you know, I bring them art supplies and we sit

1700
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:38.560
down and we just you know, throw some pain around

1701
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.800
and just laugh and reminisce. And I find it, you know,

1702
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.159
to be just a really good form of therapy to do.

1703
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:47.960
I highly recommend it to everybody. I mean, because even

1704
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:52.039
if you don't think you're that good, I mean doing it,

1705
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:53.680
it really is a good way to help you clear

1706
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.079
your head and get a lot of that dark matter

1707
01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.239
out of there and clear your headspace. So that's all

1708
01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:01.600
it was. Enjoy it though I haven't done anything in

1709
01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:04.000
a few months. Last painting I did was for my parents.

1710
01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:06.399
It was my first underwater or anything. It was my

1711
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:10.720
first shark, dude, Like, everyone's like, that's a great shark. Like, yeah,

1712
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:15.520
and I'm not painting another one, h No worrying I

1713
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:17.439
will though, but yeah, I just used as a form

1714
01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:19.239
of therapy and it turned into just I had so

1715
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:24.319
much and people, you know, really appreciated it, you know,

1716
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:27.279
more than I did, even because I was just doing

1717
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:29.520
it to clear my headspace and painting things that I

1718
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:33.840
liked and art therapy. It's a hell of a medicine

1719
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:36.479
and it's a lot better for you than any of

1720
01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:39.560
the stuff they try to pump into your system through

1721
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:43.039
the VA. Again, that's a whole other day's worth of

1722
01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.000
conversation we can have about the VA.

1723
01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:48.640
One of my uncles was on vacare. I know another

1724
01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:51.640
person who is on VACARE. I mean, I've had some

1725
01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:55.359
interactions I myself know, but I've seen what they have

1726
01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:57.520
gone through, and I think that would be a great

1727
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:02.520
episode to where where you can revisit that conversation.

1728
01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:08.119
For sure, so therapeutic, just like this.

1729
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:12.279
I hope, I hope that after this episode gets released

1730
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.920
that this helps drive more traffic to your podcast, that

1731
01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:20.600
Jesse Razinsky Show. Also though, you know, bring up your

1732
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:24.600
artwork and you have some items for selling Etsy. How

1733
01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:29.039
can people support your efforts because a lot of people

1734
01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:33.560
don't realize being an independent podcaster, we don't make money

1735
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.479
doing this. It's very rare that we make anything at all,

1736
01:31:37.039 --> 01:31:39.560
and we put a lot of time, lots of time

1737
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:42.600
trying to make these things happen. So how can people

1738
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:43.600
support your efforts?

1739
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:49.880
If you go on I got the Facebook page, Instagram

1740
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:56.239
and I think it's on x on exit's Jay Razinsky Paints,

1741
01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:58.560
just because you only have so many characters. Otherwise it's

1742
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:04.119
Jesse Razinskys on everything that's the handle on Etsy as well.

1743
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:06.039
You could see everything that's on there, and you could

1744
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.399
definitely see the ones that are older on there that

1745
01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:10.760
I just look at and I go, I'll just give

1746
01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:12.800
it to sell one for free if they pay for shipping.

1747
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:15.319
At this point, you know there's some of them, but

1748
01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:18.800
Jesse Razinsky Creations on there and you know, on Etsy,

1749
01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:20.920
and you could also mean message me on there if

1750
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:24.560
you have something custom that you'd like done, just you know,

1751
01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:26.039
if I could do it, I'll do it because I've

1752
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.199
had people you know, do that, and that's actually turned

1753
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:31.199
out to be some of the better things that I've done,

1754
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:33.600
even though I will say that the backside of Alcatraz

1755
01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:35.479
and the Golden gate Bridge is probably the best thing

1756
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:39.279
I ever did, or the Grinches mugshot, but those are

1757
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:41.479
you know, arguments to have another day. But yeah, Jesse

1758
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.479
Razinsky Creations on Etsy and there's stuff there again. I

1759
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:48.039
used to I'm going to try to start painting more.

1760
01:32:48.039 --> 01:32:51.279
I've just been putting more time into you know, getting

1761
01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:53.920
the show back, going in and getting all, you know,

1762
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:59.800
everything proper and done right. So I haven't updated anything,

1763
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:02.920
so I haven't touched anything. I mean I've touched the paint.

1764
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:05.439
I haven't done anything. I haven't found that right motivation

1765
01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:06.680
because I've been doing the show. But if you go

1766
01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:10.680
on Jessersinska Creations free shipping, I'll do a custom anything

1767
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.039
if I can do it. And again it helps bring

1768
01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:14.800
a little bit of stuff. I used some of it

1769
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:18.359
to help get a you have to pay for what

1770
01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:20.239
I get. I got a micro I got my microphone

1771
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:22.520
right here with money from that, so I didn't have

1772
01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:25.479
to go out of pocket for that, so I could

1773
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.640
actually have a decent microphone. So it does help. And no,

1774
01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:32.520
we don't really make any money off of doing it,

1775
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.680
so every little bit, you know, it helps and a

1776
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:38.640
piece of me is on that canvas.

1777
01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:41.279
So well, at this point, how often do you drop

1778
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:42.039
an episode?

1779
01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:44.279
Every Wednesday?

1780
01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:47.920
Every Wednesday? So since once a week you're releasing an episode,

1781
01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:51.359
you got a new one coming out already tomorrow morning, tomorrow,

1782
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:55.840
so everything releases were recording on Tuesday, July ninth, So

1783
01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:58.000
July tenth, there will be a new episode and every

1784
01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:02.000
Wednesday after that. So I encourage everybody to go listen

1785
01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:04.960
to the Jesse Razinski Show. I hope that you get

1786
01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:07.039
a ton of traffic there and a lot of support.

1787
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:09.600
I just want to thank you for your time. I

1788
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:10.039
really do.

1789
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:12.560
I appreciate the conversation. Thank you, Oh this is good.

1790
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.760
Thank you for reaching out like U again, like I've

1791
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:19.600
been like I was honestly like it was one of

1792
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:21.560
those like I saw and I'm like, am I being punked?

1793
01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:22.960
No?

1794
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:27.039
Not this doesn't happen ever, and then I think I

1795
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:28.039
just dated myself.

1796
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:30.920
Oh shit, job Ashton Kutcher.

1797
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.239
But I just you just got punked. Yeah, and but

1798
01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:36.279
time is precious, and you know, to get to sit

1799
01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:38.760
down and talk to anybody you know and have an

1800
01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:41.760
actual conversation again doesn't happen all the time. And to

1801
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.159
get to hit a bunch of stuff is you know,

1802
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:46.600
very appreciative anyone that's listening, you know, to this, even

1803
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:48.239
if you don't check me out, but like you for

1804
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:51.279
listening to us, because you know, again, once you go

1805
01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:53.479
through enough and you but the older you get, all

1806
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:55.159
the times you're growing up and they're like, time is

1807
01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:57.079
precious and you're like, yeah, sure, and I'll get out

1808
01:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.159
of the way because you have a million things to do.

1809
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:03.039
What time really it is? And even if my brain

1810
01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:06.079
never turns off until about an hour or so after

1811
01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:08.960
I take my sleeping beds from the VA, shout out

1812
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.199
to that that's the one good thing they do. And

1813
01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:13.399
really they're both my grant suppressors. They just happen to

1814
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:18.079
render me unconscious, which is great because I don't sleep otherwise. Yeah,

1815
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:23.199
my brain's always going, and yeah, just to let me

1816
01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:26.560
into her wherever you are, your car, your house, whatever.

1817
01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.560
I appreciate the time, and you ask what I'll do

1818
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:30.960
it again.

1819
01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:33.159
I'm glad you're doing. I hope people find you and

1820
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:38.000
I encourage them to listen to your show. So again,

1821
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:39.520
thanks for your time, and I know that you and

1822
01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:42.319
I will have more conversations for sure. Actually I'm very

1823
01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:47.079
very sure though, so yes, sir, all right, well, thank you,

1824
01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:48.399
thank you,