July 1, 2024
28 - 2024 TRUMP VS BIDEN DEBATE BREAKDOWN AND FACT CHECK
I breakdown the 2024 Trump vs Biden Presidential Debate, with my guests, Manuel Fontes, host of the Stretchgoose Podcast, and Rick Knowlton, Political Enthusiast and Super Researcher. We offer verifiable data as we fact check the debate, and offer our own takes on various issues. There is a bit of laughter, and just a bit of tension between us as we discuss the issues and offer our perspectives.
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Welcome to this special edition of World Ablaze with yours
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guests with me to help me break down the twenty
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twenty four presidential election debate. We focus on a few
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topics of concern one the economy, two order security, three
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we discuss the controversial black Jobs statement, and number four
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the January sixth capital riots. We offer verifiable facts to
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fact check this debate as it relates to the topics
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that we are discussing in this episode. We also offer
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insightful opinions, a bit of laughter, and there is even
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a bit of tension between us as we express our views.
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We appreciate you listening, and we hope that you enjoy
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this episode. Today I have with me Rick Nolton, who
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I call the political enthusiast slash super researcher I've been
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around the block. Is also a military veteran. Don't hit
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the mic, of course, signals that my brother Manuel Fonts
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from the Stretch Goose podcast is here.
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I have to bump this thing at least one hundred
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times per show.
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No, I know it. I know it, and we don't
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have our usual broadcast might say, so our voices will
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sound a little bit different. I know that Rick took notes.
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My brother is tired and.
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I never take notes. See, so it doesn't matter.
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So I got a surprise. I got a writer requirement
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fulfillment for my brother.
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Did you honor the contract this time? I want two pounds?
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That's not even two pounds. You're a piece of ship.
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Listenole almost bought a pack of myself their peanut butter
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remnant little pep for the steps.
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I'm addicted to those.
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Damn aren't they especially peanut butter ones? Right? See too,
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crazy pound of person. That's the requirement for this deal?
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Is it?
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All right, Now with these mics, he kind of got
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talked right into them because they're made for like live stage,
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So make noise to a degree. All right, first, and
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before we get going, I'll just get your general opinions
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on what you guys thought about the debate in general,
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and then I want to dive into specific questions and
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you know, we'll play those clips and see what you
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guys think. Hopefully we'll do a little bit of fact checking,
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but in general, ask Rick, what what did what do
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you think of this debate in general as far as
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Trump versus Biden, how they handle themselves, and you know,
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just your thoughts on the debate.
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I was looking forward to this debate for some time,
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and I had a lot of concerns about how it
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was going to be presented, and I was really surprised
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that in the way that it was presented. I was
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feeling that since these individuals that were doing asking the questions,
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I believe was Trump pater to begin with. So we'll
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move on from there. I think that debate was I
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guess said those concerns that I had, I was suspecting
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that they would do a lot of cutting off Trump's
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microphone and the questions presented to Biden. I think we're
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surprising that they were so specific, knowing his issues with Alzheimer's.
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The first fifteen minutes of this particular debate just showed
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how incognate Biden is and that he no longer needs
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to be president of the United States.
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So I would say that as far as the moderators
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with you know, Jake Tapper and whatnot, basically I expected
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to be way more anti Trump, like more hard left leaning. Yes,
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a lot more interruptions, but I think they played as
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fair as they could. And I'm probably thinking they did
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because CNN has been getting kicked in the ass so
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much for just how they've been handling media and how
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they've been leaning when they do try to, I guess
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report the news in big air quotes.
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I think the ratings have a lot to do with that,
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and that's one of the reasons why they sold the
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broadcast rights to other networks so that they can generate
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more capital.
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I agree, but remember the twenty sixteen debate. They were
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very very much more you can see pro Biden on
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that one. Yes, this one, there were a lot more neutral.
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I think that's why they switch.
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Yeah, they still through their jabs, but it was nowhere
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near the way it was.
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They were very sneaky and the question presentations, and they
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had a very different way of presenting the questions. I think,
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for example, they avoided asking Biden questions or bringing up China.
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Well yeah, and they did avoid the Robert her report
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that basically exposed him. And that's that's that's a whole
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nother conversation. You know, how do you get all this evidence?
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But deemed you can't go ahead and prosecute him because
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he's not fit to stand trial because his memory is
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horrible and he can't recollect anything or even though where
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he is. But yet all this evidence is there against him. No,
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they didn't press him on that and ask him. I
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think the time of the questions were a little interesting too. Well.
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I think that was all in Biden's favor, and I
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think they knew that and that's why they didn't present
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any of these.
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I also noticed where they the rules were. He was
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not supposed to have notes right or anything. But you
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can clearly see the whole time of the debate that
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Biden kept looking down at something that I read something
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absolutely and Trump didn't. And he also had a pin
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as things are going. He was crossing out and writing things, which,
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according to the debate rules, you weren't supposed to do. Yes,
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that's correct, but it didn't look like it helped him anyway.
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Matam, what did you think in regards to the moderators
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and the whole CNN thing. I think it's very it's
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very hard to support a guy when the ship is sinking.
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So once that happened, you start to slide away those
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questions and go, well, let's let's just keep this thing
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floating for the next ninety minutes, and whatever happens happens.
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We're not going to press. We're not going to do
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anything to make us as a network sound dumber than
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we are, right, and if he falls, he falls, And
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then we got Plan B, which is what they're doing now,
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which is full scale meltdown, crying, you know, calling for
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the replacement.
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Right.
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I think I think they had two sets of things,
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which was, if Biden doesn't look dead, which he did,
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if Biden doesn't lose his train of thought and he
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stays pretty you know, level, then you would have seen
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more mic cutting, you would have seen more attack. But
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the second Biden went then it was like we got
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to save this fucking train somehow.
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So so in your opinion, they were they were forced
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to be neutral because they already know he was on
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the decline. You don't.
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I don't think they wanted to sit there and start
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attacking Trump and then looked like outright defending a guy.
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Maybe maybe that was attack they used to keep Trump
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from really tearing him apart, like they didn't. They didn't
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open the door for Trump to really go after him
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as he as they usually the third question.
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Then he he loses his train of thought and he
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starts drooling. Then it's like, fuck, what do we do now?
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I think there's times Biden looked like a robot that
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had like a glitch exactly exactly, so what do you?
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What do you do? As a network? His eyes were
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so wide it looked like he was high on math.
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I'm not saying he was, but he's definitely on something.
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And then all of a sudden it looked like he malfunction.
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He would just be looking off into space, not knowing
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where he is. Poor guy. I mean, you don't want
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to wish on anybody, but I don't have remorse because
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I think he's a trader to the country, period and
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it's going to come out. They have the evidence. The
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only reason they haven't gone after him is because if
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they do, it's gonna expose everybody else as well. And
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the other reason they don't go after him is because
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at this point, we can't afford to look any worse
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to the rest of the world. They can't see America
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to look any worse. I mean, if it really comes
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out that our president, current president, is a trader, and
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we prosecute him as a trader and he gets the
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full extent of the law and justice as a trader,
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we're gonna lose even more credibility. So I think that's
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never really going to happen.
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Well, we have the Department of Justice covering up for him,
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and obviously they've hidden a lot of information, kept a
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lot of information from the general public.
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Yes, they did, and.
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As such the House is still investigating it. There pretty
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well got all of their information and input together, and
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I think after if hopefully gets elected, then they will
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have enough people in the Senate as well as the
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House to prosecute Biden and expose the end. They've also
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got a number of they're taking the Department adjust the
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head of the Department of Justice the Court for refusing
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to turn over these documents. So I think within the
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next week or two, the Court will make their decision
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on whether or not that information is going to be
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available for the House, and from all inside information, the
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Court should render their decisions to the House.
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So I don't think it's ever going to get there. Okay,
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here's why. Before they get to that point, I guarantee
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all of this information is going to be super super
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classified at a level that no one's going to be
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able to look at it. And when they try to
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actually release the documents, they'll be so redacted that's gonna
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look like a giant sharp he just went through every
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single page.
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Well, I think a lot of the Rhinos with the
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Republican Party have left the House, and a lot of
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Democrats are leaving, if they haven't left already, So I
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think I disagree. I think that this is going to
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be pushed. No telling how far it will go. But
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there's court actions against the Department of Justice to release
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this information that they've occurred and hand over all these
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documents that they have because they didn't show up to
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the subpoenas that Congress had sent to them.
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Well, I think that's a possibility. But to this day,
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over sixty years later, they still haven't released anything regarding
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JFK's assassination. So what how are we to good to
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believe that they would be so forthright all of a
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sudden and so pro America that they would just release
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whatever evidence they have against Biden when they still haven't.
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Released a generation now than we were back there. No,
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I agree, but information. I was listening to his son
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talk about that assassination and the information that was readily
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available or were not available to the general public. He
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has seen it, he's had some questions about it, and
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there's always been a lot of controversy on whether or
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not there was more than one shooter there at the grassy.
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Well, I I personally hope you're right. I would love
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for Biden to go to prison for his Treatis actions.
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You know, there's just too much evidence to for that
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not to happen outside of someone higher up in government
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somewhere in some organizations suppressing it and just literally classifying
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and sealing documents. If that doesn't happen, then I think
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you should they should go after him. And it's not
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of Vendetta as far as no I think.
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Absolutely those examples. If you violate the law, as they say,
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you need to be prosecuted irregardless of who it is
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is what they're saying, Well, go ahead and pursue these issues.
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If nothing else, it'll establish a example to future.
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Set the precedent right moving forward. What do you think
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you think he'll ever come on? Man, you think they'll
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ever prosecute and go after now?
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No, because I don't know when this is going to
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come out. But as of today, he's having his meeting
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like we were talking about before we got on, and
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let's just say Biden and the family get together and
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they go, you know what, We're not going to do this,
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and he just completely leaves like tomorrow and he throws
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Kamala to the wolves and then he just runs. I mean,
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the impeachment kind of dies at that point. All those documents.
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Maybe the thing just gets shelved by by Harris.
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I mean, when Trump was was the president, he tried
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to release JFK stuff and it didn't happen. He ran
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into all the all the bureaucrats, if you will. So
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